1 EMPRESÁRIA VS 30 ESPOSAS TROFÉU

The difference between a trophy wife and a prostitute is the ring. Prostitutes are women who get pregnant and have no commitment.

I think that if she's a living woman,

she won't want to marry a man who has no conditions.

My husband left with a slut. I never had a father. The Nat Beauty empire is over.

No, it's not.

So, you don't have a man.

I owed 200,000, not over. So, you don't have a man? No, I was owing 200 thousand, Serasa's name, car with a search warrant,

it was nothing.

He wants a smelly wife, nails.

But he also wants this from the prostitute.

I'm interested.

So, I'm going to spend what's his.

But if it's in favor of the woman to marry a fucked up man, the decision is always mine. A Christian man will treat you like a queen. How many Christians do we see betraying, killing? They don't think twice. But I'm not just anyone. I'm the trophy woman.

Is the money for both?

It's not for both.

Isn't this woman fighting for a better life?

Until she gets there and has nothing to do?

Money in her hands.

Pants on the floor.

I'm Natalia Martins. Today I'm a partner of Natalia Beauty. I was a financially dependent woman, I grew up in a family of women who were financially dependent. I believe this pain became my biggest mission. Today, I'm surrounded by 30 trophy wives.

If a woman doesn't work, she has no freedom. If a woman doesn't work, she has no freedom.

Hi, how are you?

I'm fine.

Ana Cláudia from Monalfa.

How are you, Ana?

I'm fine.

And you? Well, I possibly don't believe in that, because we women don't depend on men at all, right? And I know how I am a mother and I take care of my daughter, I take care of my husband, and I think that, like, I'm just not working because I don't really want to. And since I've been working for 10 years, taking care of my husband, I think it's good for him to take care of me too. But today you don't have income, you depend on money.

Because you said you don't depend on men for anything. No, I don't depend on men. But today, if you want to leave home with your son, how do you live? What is your income? What did you build? Well, I possibly only left because of my daughter, right? So I can take care of my daughter, but it's not like I don't want to work.

I work if I want to, and I do it. Yeah, but it's not like that. When we talk about... I'm talking about financial freedom. Because, have you ever stopped buying something?

No.

So, thank you.

Good.

So, tell me.

Well, I really believe that women don't have the freedom because work dignifies us. For sure, right? And when we're married, we depend on our husband's money for everything.

How can you have an independence if you have to ask for money from that person? Exactly, that's what I'm going to be a We can...

How are you? What's your name?

Natalia. Beautiful name. Let's go, Nat.

My name is Natalia, I'm 34 years old, I'm a housewife, and I decided to participate because I believe that the role of the housewife is often devalued by society. What do you defend in this situation where a woman who does not work has no freedom? Why? What do you consider freedom?

Freedom to say no, freedom to leave if she wants, freedom to leave, freedom to buy whatever she wants, to simply say no. Because I grew up in a home where I saw my mother in a relationship for years, because she had five children and couldn't support any of them, so she stayed in this relationship that ended her life. I think it's a relationship problem, because I live in the opposite extreme of that relationship, where my husband values me,

where what I do inside the house he sees with good eyes. So, freedom for me, for example, my husband's salary, he doesn't consider it his salary, it's our salary.

So... But you have to justify your expenses. No.

In some way, right? He doesn't ask you if you want... No, I have an additional credit card from him because he trusts me. He knows I'm not going to spend the money that's, in an irresponsible way. The money is ours, so I'm going to spend it with what I know is necessary. I'm going to spend it with what will make a difference in my house, with the supermarket, with the kids, with the dentist, with the medicine.

Of course, sometimes, I did my gel nail here, but I don't need to justify it to him. When I get there, he looks at my nail and says, Wow, how beautiful, love. You did your nail, how beautiful it is. He likes that I take care of myself too. So I know that this may not be a reality for all women, but... You know that 52% of women who suffer abuse, which is a giant number, and when I say abuse, it's psychological, physical, patrimonial, and also the internet.

All of them, 52% of them, don't work, so they can't leave this relationship. So your reality may be a very different reality, very specific, but even so, as a woman, I still defend that every woman has to have her money in some other way. The husband gives, cool, but maybe one day you get mad at him, don't impose yourself so much because you need money to justify something the next week.

I've lived this a lot.

Me, Nath, I've worked abroad. I graduated in marketing, I did it at USP, I did an exchange in Boston, I lived in Boston for 9 months, I took a course at Harvard, I speak fluent English, and for a long time I saw myself as a person who would be a career woman, a business woman, so I worked in multinational companies, I worked in companies that I took care of big accounts, I took care of Vivo, I took care of Bob's. And then the kids came.

And then...

Don't you miss that identity of yours?

No, because when I was there at the company, my head was at home. When my kids were born, I continued to work for a while. And I couldn't give my best here or there. Because when I was at work, I was thinking about my kids. When I got home, I was thinking about work problems. And when I decided to dedicate my house to my family, I feel that I give everything I can to them. This is my legacy.

I will never be valued. I will never be in a Forbes magazine as one of the top 10 mothers in the world. No one sees that. But I am valued by them. So when my son comes and says, Mom, you're the best mom in the world

because I sat down to watch Harry Potter with him and he was super happy, it's something I couldn't do before. Because when I got home from work, I was two hours away from home. Then two hours away from home. then two hours to come back.

When I got home, I still had to do a lot of bureaucracy. And you had to take care of the house, keep everything in order, the kids. Which is a job that usually doesn't require a lot of help from the husbands. But my husband is a great partner. But even so, it's a lot. I'm What was your dream? What did you want to be when you grew up? Chiquititas. Really? Because we stop dreaming at some point, right?

When we get married, life goes on, all these problems, the children... We forget a little bit about this childhood, this girl who dreamed of being something. Yes. But here in your situation, when we say wife trophy, that wife who doesn't work, who can't work, who has no conscience, who doesn't care about financial things, you are a partner, a partner of your husband, if we stop to think.

Yes, I see my home, my home, as a company and I am the CEO of this company. Yes, for sure. For my home to work, for my children to work, they depend on me. So, for me, there is no money in the world that will pay for my children to grow up and I see,

wow, they are good husbands, they are good citizens. Because it can happen. We live in a world that can happen. And a very interesting fact is that 96% of Brazilians don't trust others. So, deep down, if he leaves, how do you stay? What do you do?

As I said, I have studies, I have... I made the choice to stay at home. But it's a hypothesis that for me won't happen, Nath. I have a son who has a rare syndrome. How many mothers who have children with a disability see their husbands leave? And my husband, in this situation, is even closer.

My husband worked 15 days on a platform, 15 days at home. When we had Isaac, our second son, he said, Linda, I won't stay on the platform anymore. for I think that's a part of this partnership, that we believe that together we are stronger, that if one falls, the other rises. So, it's the relationship that I live. Very good. In this case, you really have a society with him. But even so, for me, you have to have your income, your source of income, even if it's at home with your children.

I sell Mary Kay, Nath.

There you go, folks. There's a source of income in the back.

You have your money, you earn it, you do whatever you want. I do it more for... In my free time, in my free time, but it's not a commitment that I have to bring sustenance to my house. I think that's the weight that is placed on women, which also generates weak men. When we take away this burden from men,

we will generate a banana man.

It's not every man or woman who has this option, to have someone who is so generous to the point of making you very free. But all the women I know who depend on men financially, at some point they don't feel free to spend, to dream, or to be protagonists. At some point they question their identity. So if you say you're selling a marquee, which is cool,

which I think is really cool if you're at home working, but you have your money there, that's my concern. But, I'll tell you, Mary Kay gives me more loss. Oh, woman, don't say that.

It's true, because I get my husband's card and say, beautiful, I'm going to buy Mary Kay and I'm going to do an event. Sometimes I don't even sell everything I bought. I do it for a hobby, for something I like. I think women should work for something they like, for a hobby, not with the mission of not waking up early. I mean, even if we go to work, we wake up early

because we get the kids' snacks and take them to school. I say that taking care of the house is a job without benefits. Exactly. Because you end up being an employee, but you don't have NCES, I'm I've ever been a little bit you know, I mean, yes, you're my your beneficial See then come back my phone. I'm financier a minty to liberate My son tend to sell phone

for sentido

More I'm sorry. She's going to work with me. No, me? I can't. I'm sorry. Honey, never.

I'm married, wonderful, happy.

I found the love of my life.

And do you have kids, Nath?

I have two girls. And I'm very happy today, but free. And look, I'll tell you something. I never felt the freedom I feel today, being able to do whatever I want, whenever I want, say no, say yes.

It's not a competition, it's freedom. Because when we are free, we really know each other. While we don't have this freedom, we depend a lot on the other, on the other's mood, on the other's will, on how the other is. I remember several times I had to ask for a card the because the next day I would ask for money to buy something. So it's this kind of freedom that I didn't have

and that I felt as a financial woman. And I say that the first degree of freedom of a woman is financial freedom. But you're telling me that you already had this freedom and that today you choose not to have it, but that if tomorrow you had to go back to work,

do you have this freedom of choice?

I do.

So this's great. It's the best thing in the world.

It's true.

It's wonderful.

Thank you, Nat.

Thank you.

It's very hard to argue with me.

But I can't be.

My experience was something surreal. I won't forget what I lived here today. I learned a lot from these women, even though I don't agree with their opinion. Because I really believe, and there's nothing that can change me, that every woman has to have her financial independence. She has to earn her own money, she has to have her source of income.

Otherwise, she is subject to someone deciding for her,

a man giving her life, giving her the final word.

It was amazing.

Sit here, sit here. You can repeat as many times as you want. You can come now, next time. Come here.

Come.

Sit here.

What's your name?

Erica.

Nice to meet you, Erica. Let's go.

I'm going to question what my friend was saying. I understand her whole issue. I also, in my case, studied and everything. When I became a mother, I stayed at home. My husband always took care of me, my luxuries and everything. Then what happened?

My money, what he gave me, look, this is for you, to do your little things. I always made a reservation. I always left a reservation. I always left a reservation. Because we never know what might happen. So, this money from my reservation

was kept there where only I knew.

Right?

But as the years went by, I said, I need to give this to someone. From this reservation I have, in question of me being all this time at home, without working, and him's there supporting me, and stuff. And I said, I need to tell someone, because time is passing, and I'm about to turn 50, we don't know what might happen, right? So, my children.

So, ok. This thing of thinking about this reserve, God knows everything, right? Because, like, weird are unexpected in our lives. What happened to me? In my routine, always making my reservations, but studying, doing one thing here and another there,

transvestite, always taking a course, that kind of thing, but living a stable, quiet life. Being supported by my husband, my children were all stabilized, studying. I was a mother very early, I got married at 15 years old. My children are all now... Everyone takes care of their lives, has their own home.

One day he went out to play ball. He had a fulminant heart attack at 42 years old. I It's a good thing. It's obvious that we don't want that. Yes, but it's not true. But we have to count, analyzing the data, ok?

Data.

Exactly. Data. So, most women, when they don't have income and it happens to separate themselves or the husband dies, she regresses and is even in a state of vulnerability with the children. Exactly. So, my concern is this with women and this is my mission.

Are you interested if you want to marry just for money?

Nati.

My God.

This sentence, what does it mean? If you're already married, knowing that he's going to be the provider, and for money, is this interest? Absolutely. I absolutely agree. Do you agree? I'm In our context, I believe that whoever is here defending the role of the wife, no one here married for money. We got married, I mean, I don't know, but I married for love to my husband. I believe that in a marriage, we get married because you see in the eye...

Guys...

Hey! Hi, Natalia. Um to discuss the subject. And I disagree. I think that when a man has a lot of money, he won't want to see his wife working, sometimes to earn a minimum wage, or working on a scale of 6x1 CLT, or 10 hours a day, so I disagree. I think that when he has money,

he will want his wife close, want his wife close to his children, and consequently...

But the point is, the woman who marries for money, is she interested?

It depends.

Why?

It depends. I think if it's a woman who has lived, who has suffered a lot in life, she won't want to marry a guy who has no conditions. She will continue there, killing herself, working.

But again, all for money. I'm It's because men don't want to see women working. Yeah. I think that's it. That's pretty bad, right?

Yeah.

And do you agree when the final word is for men, when it's him who makes the money? You were talking about that, right?

Yes.

If I'm submissive to men...

The final word is for him.

The final word is often for him. But the woman...

There you go! Hi, how are you? Do you think she's interested in buying a house for money? I agree. Do you agree? I agree. Or do you think that there are women who have only one option?

Actually, only those who are stupid and don't like money. I like money. I would definitely get together with a nice guy. I would get together with a guy like that. But you have to have a lot of money to be a Virgínia of life. To have a dad, to have a maid, to have everyone doing everything for me.

Of course I want to travel, yes, with him, banking me all the time.

But Virgínia built her.

Built, yes, but what helped Virgínia? José Felipe, who...

I think it was the opposite in this relationship.

No?

Oh, anyway, I don't know.

I'm saying I want to be rich like her.

Wonderful. So you have to be independent. Make your money.

No, but it's easier for him to support me than for me to kill myself, right? If he's already there and likes me, then I'll spend what's his.

I'm not going to lie, I'm interested. Guys!

She's gone.

They lied to me.

Thank you.

What's the agenda? The woman who marries for money is an interestee. I would like to have a man who has money to pay the bills. To take care of me, to take care of my beauty. Because just as there are women who are interested in money, there are also many men who are interested in beauty. Because just as there is a woman interested in money, there is also a lot of men interested in what? That he goes after beauty, he goes after women,

that she is well dressed, that she is well dressed.

And he's with her for that.

So there is an interest in both parts.

In both parts, exactly.

Both interested.

Both interested.

Look. It's my opinion Both are interested. Look.

It's my opinion. Yes.

Of course. There are a lot of men out there, and you can see that they're 50 years old, and they go out dancing with a young girl next to them. Isn't that interesting?

It's interesting.

Both, right?

Both.

And you agree with that?

Both of them. I think that women also have to be independent, in my opinion. They have to chase their money. Not live for it, but if they find a guy

who says he wants to give her financial stability, why not?

Can I tell a story?

Sure.

A story? There's a friend of mine, a friend I know, and she was a lover of a man for many years. Yes. 30 years. I'm to So she spent and he paid. And now she's like Uber. So it's very dangerous.

We don't know what tomorrow will bring.

Exactly.

Focus on guaranteeing yours.

Exactly.

Really.

I agree.

Focus on guaranteeing yours.

But since there are many women who marry for material good, there are also many men who marry for interest.

In beauty.

Sometimes not in the house, sometimes he's interested in her beauty. Because, well, they say that beauty doesn't sit at the table.

But you have to walk with a person who, you know, who lets you live.

It's the trophy.

The trophy. He is her trophy, it's his trophy, and he is her trophy.

Both parts. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it. I'm going to give you a rich man. I haven't had an independent. Of course it's good to have someone to help you, someone to pay for your dinner, someone to... But if there's no love, marrying just for interest is a very empty thing.

Just for money. I married, my husband had nothing. He was a zero. He earned a minimum wage, and I earned five. So, who was the provider at the time? But that changed over time. Did you ever regret it?

Not even once. Like, damn, could it have gone on? No, I would do it all over again. I would marry for love. I love everything, I love everything around me. I love children, I love people. I prefer to think that there are still honest people, there are good people.

I just don't believe when they prove me wrong. Then the conversation changes. But yes, I would marry for love. Very good. If anyone wants to sit down.

Wonderful.

I don't know who said that love doesn't fill the belly, it does. I lived for love.

I got pregnant early.

But what is this?

I'm Valéria, I'm 37 years old, I'm self-employed, I work with clothes sales at the moment. I decided to participate because I'm re-signifying myself. I'm open to new things. And hearing different opinions, different things, is what I'm looking for right now. I'm holding on to this day. At 18, thank God, I'm going to college. My princess.

But, like, everything has to have interest.

If it doesn't, it will be left behind.

Yeah, just for money, it's hard.

Yeah.

Because I think it's a set.

I'll take care of his clothes, I'll take care of his children. What are you going to give me in return?

I'm not a maid, I'm not a wonderful woman.

So you...

Yeah.

There has to be a return.

Yes.

What are you going to give me?

It's a mutual interest, right?

Manicure won't come to my door and say, come here, because today I'm going to do your nails. Not your eyebrows either. I shave my hair as an option, but my laces are at home.

Whenever I want.

You put it on.

I want to. It doesn't matter if I have to leave it in the closet. I want to. Because if he doesn't do it for me, he'll do it on the street.

And the street will take it without mercy.

So you think, I'm going to spend all his money so there's nothing left.

Go there.

Go there.

With a torn underwear. If you want, you can take it.

But my children have to have the best of the best. the My daughter, nothing is free. Money in hand, panties on the floor.

I can't imagine your husband watching this.

I'll tell him.

He knows you're here, what did he say? I'll tell him that sometimes when he's really nervous... I can tell you everything, right?

Yes.

When he's really nervous, I say, I'll give you your sedative.

I'll say, one, two, three. If it doesn't take a while...

What's the sedative?

Oops, honey!

You're crazy.

Each one for their skin.

But the little he has, he'll take you there to eat a hot dog.

That's it.

Come, come, come, come.

We're not stupid, right? We're mature women. Think with me. Oh, because I I not interested? Because I love it. Of course, you together, it's nice. I'm not going to get a horrible thing.

And another thing. You talk so much about it, that today men are extremely interested. They come to you like this. Do you have a car? Do you live alone? Am I lying?

So, like this... But there are many, many... People, for God's sake, women, we have to be smart.

Why do you think they are like this?

Because they are not used to it. Because of, I believe, women. Do you understand? And that's it. So, it's like this. I believe in women too. You know? And that's it. So, here's the thing.

Men have to support us, yes. Because if it's not them, it's not really them. It's them who have to pay. We're expensive.

But he can pay. My husband can pay me. But I still want to have my money coming from my source.

That's right. You can have your money. You can stay there at will. You know? I want to have my money coming from my source. That's right, you can have your money. You can stay as you please, beautiful or not. I want to be all supported, beautiful, wonderful, do my things, have my boutique, my business. Be a wonderful trophy wife.

Yes, a beautiful and wonderful trophy wife. Thank you, that's all I wanted to say. Kisses.

Or you can be my eyebrow

Or you can be my eyebrow

My name is Dayane, I'm 38 years old My name is Dayane, I'm 38 years old I'm a trophy wife I decided to participate because there's still a lot of taboo I decided to participate because there's still a lot of taboo I decided to participate because there's still a lot of taboo

Natalia, it's just a replica I think I was a pergunt on a mulatti and a serious. I said for border muleka, so I could do

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I'm after you. I'm pulling your hair. No, you can't pull it. Look, it's a car here. I Talked about you

Look at Sabi pokey a difference a

Yes, I'll an L when I didn't follow a surprise you sent you to a mulatto. Kipro student I'll serve you content with a lot of azer corpo beleza tempo. Yes, pose a trophy. Oh, come back to because a wife is a trophy, her husband doesn't even care about what she spends. I have... He does, and I doubt...

Guys, it's impossible.

He doesn't care, not all of them.

He doesn't pick up the card and say,

what is this in this store? Not all of them, I guarantee you. I guarantee you. No, I go through this, I guarantee you that not all of them care about what you spend. I have total freedom to enter his account, I'm going to I was saying I'd never let you take care of me. But the justice... Because while we're together... The justice...

And another thing, if he leaves, everything we build together, I have the right to. I'll keep half of it. And then I'll come back from Phoenix and I'll live my life. But while I'm with him, the obligation is his.

Is it total separation of goods or total communion?

Total separation of goods.

Total separation? Yeah. So you have nothing. No, communion is total good. I have the right to everything that belongs to him. But you know that in communion there are couples that stay together, they are no longer happy because it is total good communion.

You don't separate them so you don't have to separate good.

No, I go to my half. What's the problem with me starting from zero and staying alone? What's your problem? There's no problem. The important your problem? I don't have a problem. The important thing is that I'm happy now. The girl said that the guy died.

It could be me, it could be him. I'm happy now. I want to live this. I'm not a prostitute. He doesn't control me. I do my gym, I do what I want with his money.

You take care of yourself. I take care of myself. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it.

I'm not going to be able to do it.

I'm not going to be able to do it.

I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. Have you ever worked outside? I've worked outside. I'm a police officer. I'm a police officer. I worked as a police officer for a while and now I don't work anymore. But it was because I wanted to. I had a son at 26 years old and my son has special conditions. He's also a typical child and I chose to take care of him.

And then I had another son during the pandemic and I stay at home taking care of my children. I live my life and do everything, and he doesn't have access to his money. It's his money, I guarantee you.

If you have to start working today,

do you have total freedom to do that? Total freedom to work, total freedom to spend, total freedom to buy what I want. And if I want to go out, I travel with friends, I do what I want. And if I want to go out, I travel with friends, I do what I want. I'm not a trophy wife, it doesn't mean that the guy rules me.

It means that he banks me. It's totally different.

But you have freedom.

I have total freedom. I travel with friends, I go on tours, I go to events, theaters,

trips abroad, wherever I want to go, and it's with his money. is If I had the chance to be rich and famous like you, I would choose that. Look at the desire in the back.

But I started from scratch. No, you started from scratch. I was not like that. On the contrary, I owed 200 thousand. Name in Serasa. Car with search and arrest. My daughter is small.

Was there media at that time?

No.

So, that's what I'm telling you. Today, with the media, everything is much easier. You weren't as rich as you are today with the media. I wasn't anything. So, with the media, everything is easier. You are easier to get rich. I'm sure that after you went viral on the internet, on Instagram, as I know you from there, you got much richer.

So, for you, it's much easier not to give up, it's much easier to say, because you also have people who work around you. We don't. I'm which we choose to be. Because a prostitute, even more so if she's a prostitute, it's her problem, she's working with what's hers,

it's her body, it's within her limits.

Yes, I agree.

So, like... That's why we say that the difference is an alliance. It's not an alliance. She's working, the one who's banking her, she's making an effort to donate her body for that. her body to an unknown guy who is using her. He's my husband, he's not unknown. He's not using me. We are a couple. It's totally different from who is using...

Mariana!

Very good.

Thank you.

Well, for me, prostitutes are women who have sex, have no commitment, even if it doesn't cover it. This one, yes. Because marriage is an institution, for God's sake, it's not a failed institution, as many see. It's not the internet divorces. In theory, yes. In theory, that's right. But in practice, it's a very small percentage of people who live like that. And I believe that no one here marries to separate. We don't get married thinking in reserve,

oh, my husband is going to leave me. But there are people who marry just for the money.

Yes, but it's not the majority. Many.

That's it. Many. I tell you with propriety. If God lets me get married and get divorced, I've been working since I was 16. I've been carrying a house on my back since I was 16. We have the ability to carry the world on our backs, but we weren't born to carry the world on our backs. And that's the role of who? Of the man. So, we're going to get married so we don't trust that we're going to be abandoned. Don't you think that the role of the man and the woman in today's world, I understand that we talk about banana men and such,

but isn't it a little unfair today? Because I've seen brilliant women turn themselves off because the husband was the star, the protagonist, and she was brilliant and simply stayed under the wing.. And the moment came when she regretted it. But what is being under the wing? Here we are talking about bad men, toxic men, but a man from the traditional Brazilian family, a Christian man,

he will treat you like a queen.

Is it just because he is a Christian? How many Christians do we see betraying, killing? But this is not the very Christianity, it is not what is preached in Christianity, you understand? That's why I'm telling you that in theory everything is very beautiful, everything is beautiful, including your wife trophy in theory is beautiful.

Imagine, I would love it, wow, there's nothing, freedom, all the money, but it's not like that in reality.

Why is someone going to get married thinking about separating? Because there are people who marry for interest, there are men who marry the woman because she is beautiful and does not work. He will manipulate. But the fault is the bad choice that the person makes, you know? We have to be directed to marry the right person. We have to pray for it, we have to seek it, we have to look for the benefits that person has. In the long run, it's not meeting today, I'm going to get married and the person is good and that's it. We have to know this person thoroughly so we don't get divorced. Because divorce is also something abominable in the eyes of God.

So no one will get married thinking about getting divorced. But what happens when you get divorced? If we get divorced, we have the ability to go after our own business. You know? We won't be left behind. For example, I think someone mentioned retirement. I wouldn't go after retirement. I would open my own business, sell cakes on the street, do something. But if I had made my reservation before, I wouldn't have gone through as much trouble as I did.

And that's my defense. You can't define all relationships with the toxic you had, you know? I'm not defining it. I'm not. But you don't trust your husband? You don't think you'll spend the rest of your life with him? Absolutely. Absolutely. For example, God forbid, you have a serious illness,

you can't work anymore, the Nat Beauty empire is over. No, it's not over. So what? It's not over, it's not over. He's my business partner in life. And if he wasn't, wouldn't he have enough character to support you? For sure, but I wouldn't want to. Me, for me, having to explain what I do, or what I spend, or my dream for someone is very difficult.

But you don't have to explain how a man is a good man. Depending on your investment, no. We were born with the warrior syndrome, we weren't born to be warriors. I was born to be a warrior China I'm not a hero. I don't say that. I don't pay the key. Coloca. No, no, so I Just take it. I like it. I think you can impact I don't think it is a

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Depend you owe you They owe me a trabalho you post their pistols can be a judo my cool. I just feel it's nice I don't think I'll find. I did all of that, but it was a phase. But you don't think... Do you think you would be a good wife, having to work, take care of the kids and clean the house? Man, for a while, yes. If I were, yes.

But not after? No, because I would rebuild it. Because it's something beyond what you can bear as a woman.

Our emotional is... ♪♪ I work and I don't charge for it. So you have a salary?

Of course.

His?

What is mine...

No, calm down.

But you have a salary...

No, calm down. What is mine is mine, what is his is mine.

But it comes for him or it comes for you?

It comes for him.

He wants a smelly wife, a good mother, nails, eyebrows. But he also wants this from the prostitute. I'm for Returning to the main topic. Box 2. Because imagine that many women who are going to watch live in completely abusive relationships, and they don't leave because of money, financially. So the idea of this agenda is to bring this awareness to these women as well.

So what you say is also very important.

In my opinion, it's box 2. The market is 5.

I'll spend 4, I'll spend 2, I'll spend 3. But do you agree that we should always do this math? It depends on the man. There are men who don't need to sing music for him, he knows it's his obligation. When he doesn't know,. There are men who don't need to sing for him, because he knows it's his obligation. When he doesn't know,

women are like box two.

But for you to go to the salon, buy clothes, do you have to ask him?

No. You don't need to explain. He knows his obligation, he knows very well the woman he has.

So you go, spend the card and talk.

Exactly.

Did you do this, I did that, I don't need to. I've been there, I've been back.

Have you ever worked outside? Have you ever spoken? Yes.

What did you do?

I had a job as a nurse.

Oh, really?

Yes. And then you closed?

And then I got tired. I said, I'm going to take care of myself. No one builds an empire on their own.

No. For sure. If he goes away? But to work, two boxes is enough.

For how long, for example, to survive? To start...

opening my own business. To start a business. If I'm selling sous-vide, American-style, pastel at the fair,

we are women. The body.

The body.

We are women enough to... I know the mother, the woman I am, to roll up my sleeves. If I am, to wrap my sleeves. If that happens, I have a conscience. And while it doesn't happen, my choice today is to take care of myself and my family.

How many children do you have? Two. Two? How old was your mother? You said you got married very young, at 15, right?

No, not me.

You got married at 15? No, it was her.

It was her.

Guys, you... You married 15? No, it was her. I was 18. You were young too. Were you a mother of 18?

In my first relationship, I ate the bread that was already crushed. In the second one, I said, enough. Now I'm the one who uses it.

Have you ever had an abusive relationship?

Yes, of molesting.

How was it?

Just because sometimes there are people who live and don't know what it is.

So no one goes. You'm going to be a movie. I'm going to be a movie. I'm going to be a movie. I'm going to be a movie.

I'm going to be a movie.

I'm going to be a movie.

I'm going to be a movie. 17. I'm sorry. Hi, Natalia. Hi, what's your name? Isadora. First of all, I admire your work, I think it's amazing everything you do. But right now, as a trophy wife, because I had a baby, so I've always worked, I'm available tomorrow if I want to work,

but my option right now was to give love and take care of my daughter, my baby. So I want you to understand that I don't have, I'm gonna follow the power. Okay, you can't afford for pizza. Napalm. Talvez. What's it a my reality?

Different, but I'm pincer no brazil. Claro

Can you give you the janeiro do outro vive con me do você concorda con isso como que eu vou ter medo natalia Cio's you'll be what you care. Okay. I'll say pretty many do you know capo de cuidado a mia filha Porque nunca tive minha mãe porque minha mãe trabalhava fora because my mother worked abroad. I had a mother who worked as a teacher, a director, and I never took care of her since I was a baby because she worked for me. She didn't have a husband, I never had a father. So it's very difficult.

So when I was 25 years old, so when I grew up... I have a son now, he's 9 months old. But when I grew up, my biggest dream was to take care of my daughter. Because maybe I wouldn't have had this maternal love from my mother, I wouldn't have had this care, I wouldn't have had this dedication.

So it's not fear of losing money, it's not fear of losing anything. It's fear of not being able to love. My fear is not being able to love her.

So now I'm waiting. I know she's going to grow up.

Do you think this is not a justification for you not to work?

I love to work, Natalia. I've been a streamer. I love TikTok. I love doing live streams. I love talking. But right now I can't do it because of my options.

Because I prefer to give all my love, all my availability, all my care. But now speaking of the phrase, think about women. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it.

I'm going to be able to do it.

I'm going to be able to do it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I I more irritated, spend the day on their phones, just because of the chores at home. Sometimes I disagree because I'm from there, I take care of my house, I manage my husband's money, he's the provider, and he always tells me that he's the provider, and I have everything I need, I go into his account if I need money for something.

But are you afraid of spending? Because 78% of women are a given. 78% is a lot.

So, but why? I'm The media starts to release data, which is a statistic that is there, you can search, that says if you enter your cell phone to do anything, even to enter the bank's app, you are being bombarded with something to buy. So if we are afraid, we will never live with anyone. So we will get into a relationship knowing that it is a life for two, it is for life whole. The man will enter there, he knows that he is the provider, that he has to bring the sustenance

to the family. But the fear is not the husband's.

I'm talking about the fear of him leaving, of something happening, of spending.

No. As the girls said, you will always have to do your best, not thinking that the man is leaving, but thinking about a future need. If you are going to think about not having money, you'll have to worry about the economic crisis, about wars. So everything in our lives is an incognito.

You have to think about the future. So if you think about the future and what's going to happen, you'll never live. You'll live in fear. If you can manage your house, your things, your children, take care of your home, take care of your husband, I I ♪ I'm until death do us part. Yes, yes. Okay. But what happens? So, taking this issue

and putting the man as a provider, I'm seeing, like, how can I explain? A closed field, you know? I got married, so this man is the best. And stability doesn't exist. Exactly. Everything can happen, you know? I got married, so this man is the best. There is no stability. Exactly. Everything can happen.

And we don't know the person living. I'm going to marry him because I know him fully. No, because for me, the cohabitation is a matter of time. So there is the fear. Fear of the person leaving, of her temple. Yeah, it'll exist. You seen a custom to me Middle the person border is our thing. Hey, but is this your major did you allow? No, vote on my ass. I mean she was a steamy a proper nice You see Juma mulher key could you the me a casa could you do me a serious?

I'm para me a marido to a lease a pre-me bank. I was a big fall in He can even fail. Exactly, he can fail me, he does everything I like, what I need, I dedicate myself to him, but deep down, both my fear, I have this fear, and he can also be afraid of losing me because I'm his trophy. I'm his trophy, I end up being his trophy, why? Because suddenly, if he starts thinking,

wow, if I leave this person, will I find another person who treats me like that? Because sometimes men look for what? It's not that he looks for it, but within this relationship, he looks for, let's say he looks for stability.

Here I'm stable. She's calm. But when we look at most women, I believe that... Fear. There's a contradiction. Fear will exist anyway because everything can happen.

But I use my life as a basis. Like I lost my husband. I received everything I had to receive, but what about Erica? What happens after that? Oops. No, now I'm because it's something that, I don't know... Are you afraid? Fear...

It's a matter of fear, because I can't... I understand marriage as a perfect relationship and everything, but I believe that no matter how much the woman is in the house, that fear will always hit her, because everything can happen.

All the time, right?

Yes, all the time. I'm going to be a a a a

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a a a a a After 30 years of marriage, and today I'm a pensioner. Younger or not? Yes, 20 years younger. You know it's an average. The woman who is financially dependent, after 40, she has three times more chances of being replaced by a younger one. Of those who depend.

That's a fact, I'm not the one talking. It's a fact and it's very worrying. Anyway, I was that wife, a trophy, right? I worked at home, I worked since I was 13 years old, I have two children, one of 31 and one of 26. I built a family, I didn't have a second home,

because I trusted him blindly, as many here say, that the husband is everything at home, that she takes care of the finances, that she takes care of... So, it's like this, we really... I'm Some of them, thank God, are graduated in engineering, others are lawyers, but they gave up their jobs to take care of the company today. Today they work in this company. And what is your income today?

Today I have his pension. So I'm not afraid to spend his money today, because I was afraid for 30 years. Because it was an unusual amount of money, but I was afraid because it's not It was an unusual amount of money, but I was afraid because... You had to pay for everything.

I wasn't afraid to spend his money. I was afraid of not having enough money tomorrow. I was afraid of not having enough food to feed my children at the table if the company didn't work, if I was fired, if I had to take care of my family. So, you see, it's a different fear.

What has changed after the divorce? I'm not afraid anymore. My children are raised, they are on the right path, they work for them. All the money I didn't spend for 30 years, which I saved to spend with another,

today I spend this money without the slightest fear of being happy. And you know that this fear of being dependent is not even conscious. People don't know they are afraid. But today I even like to be dependent on him. And a lot. Because today you have that value that will come in, but what if he fails? My children are working in the company, I made sure that to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you.

I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. No, I was sick Simply kitchen potato No, no Yes, it's possible. Take a look at me. I'm a used to saying yeah, you continue a edificando. No woman Medo do que se o dinheiro dos dois mas aí que tal medo do divórcio da falência do What are you afraid of if you have both? The fear of divorce, bankruptcy, death without prior notice.

No, the fear of using the other's money, the other being alive. We're talking about dead people. No, but living off the other's money. Like, I'm afraid of, for example, entering an account that is ours, individual, joint chain account, actually. No, no, no. It's not just a fear of spending. I'm I don't know. So there is a fear when we live from the money of the other, and it's not your money that comes to you. If the money is both, it's the responsibility of the woman to also keep that money and take care of that money.

But it's not really both, right? It's an illusion. Yes, if the man himself, if I marry a teacher, the man himself says, the money is both, the money is not just mine or yours, it's both. It's both. But what if he leaves? Men also decide that.

What if he leaves?

That's it.

It's like I said in the other agenda, we have the ability to go out to work and to achieve

our goal.

But you're not afraid to run out of money?

No.

Of missing? No, it's already been so much for me. At 16 I started in the job market when I was 16. My grandmother died when I was 18. My mother and I were kicked out of the family home. We moved. We had to pay R$300 to stay in the house. I had no money.

I got a job. I moved in with my mother, without a stove, without a wardrobe, with nothing,

with all the clothes all over the place. But when we look at the agenda, you don't agree, but without looking only at your point of view, at your house.

When you look at women, have you ever met a woman who is afraid of not having her own money?

No, because I don't have this vision of a failed marriage because I didn't know about failed marriages. I'm coming from the good part of the marriage. No marriage near you has failed?

There are several failed ones in the world. Do Is it in various Falido no mundo

Que a mulher no say porque no tem como se bancar e curar dos filhos Saca sambler on top of tando para por una melhora tomas lo tanto a taquando intende a taquando chegar no tema is to fazer Well more a my school as pessoas desisting Love, it's a choice, people give up, people say in the first crisis, I'm going to divorce. No, it's not the first crisis, there are many women who can hold on for a long time and don't leave. My mother is 53 years old, married to her, she will never separate again, but if 20 years ago she could have left, she would have left for sure.

So, how many women? And why couldn't she? for you. that are in failed marriages, but that she won't leave because there is a financial agreement.

When the money is his, the final word is also. Well, Nat, first of all, because here we are establishing this point that the money is his. And here there are 26 women who don't consider it that way. That's why we're here to defend this agenda. So for me, the money is not his. I feel so worthy of every penny of his salary that goes into that account as much as he does.

Because he is only where he is because he has a woman by his side who helps him. I'm going to reformulate the clause. I'm sure. But if it wasn't you, it would be someone else, is what I'm trying to say. No, it wouldn't. It would.

It would. Not all women have that ability. But he thinks...

I'm saying this. When money is made by him, in most cases, or almost always, the final word is also You're going to buy something very expensive that you really want.

He ends up convincing you not to if he doesn't want to. In a relationship like this... Let's go. 74% of marriages where only the man has the money and works to have the money, he has the power of veto over decisions. That is, he can say he doesn't want to and we have to accept it, including the wife's expenses with herself. And it's a super recent fact. So I think I'm part of those 26% that doesn't work that way. Because in my house, there will be a purchase, we sit together, we discuss. No decision is made alone. Neither he decides alone, nor I decide alone when things are relevant.

Of course, I'm going to buy a little outfit for my son. I'm not going to ask him, but I'm going to buy a new refrigerator. We're going to sit down and talk.

He's going to buy a new television.

Whose is the final word?

We're going to... Both. It's a consensus, right? Who's the final word? So, will it be? I I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. of this majority.

We decide together, together while he agrees. My name is Margarete. I've been married for 35 years. I have three children, four grandchildren.

Cool.

And my husband is like this. Every time, like you said, the final word is his. It was really his. I never... I never said, look, I just say, I want a fridge, I want a stove. He buys.

In his time.

I don't want to know the price. Like, he liked the stove, I liked it too.

I liked the fridge too.

But you have to sell your desires to him all the time.

Yes, I say, look, I need a stove, let's buy a new fridge, let's renovate it, and he says, let's go.

So he goes there and buys, like, I don't want to know the price, because he knows his pocket.

He knows how much it costs, right? Yes, so I never imposed to not a problem? No, it's not a problem. It's never been a problem. You never stopped living something you really wanted. So now, years have passed, my kids have grown up, and I felt that suffocated thing inside the house, you know? The housewife, taking care of the house, taking care of the kids.

Then came a time when I said, damn, it seems like you're getting old, you know? You don't take care of yourself. I went to an actress course, I'm a theater actress, I've been in the theater for 15 years. I work on weekends, I work as a security guard.

And I'm living my life now.

And you're making your living by deciding for yourself.

So, when I want something for myself, I buy with my money.

Wonderful.

So, that's why we're still together. He does what he wants with his money, and I do what I want with mine.

So you're a wife that's not a trophy, but a partner.

I'm a partner.

Good. Thank you.

Are you going to raise your hand so I can leave the table?

I want to leave, so say it.

You're wonderful.

Thank you.

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When the money is his, the final word is also his.

I completely disagree. At home, the last word is for the one who's going to buy the things, it's a dream. Even because the one who manages his money is a dream. We have a joint account, so I see the needs and I just tell him, Honey, I need this thing. In fact, in November I changed the fridge, I wanted a new one, better,

those cyber chic, so I said, Honey, I researched, it's coming into Black, I'm going to buy the fridge. He said, OK, honey, you know. But the final word was his? No. OK, honey. I'm gonna black you will come praja Ladeira Okay, mama sexy, but I thought I was gonna know no, I'm a more taboo. I'm all for gay Taboo, I'm all Okay, Ellie DC. No taboo. I'm all pregnant taboo. I'm all poor kid

It is a snake you know keep us a school a pramita person. I'm from a cool. We know No, thank you No, no, I in a company, even in a company, whether you like it or not, you need someone to make certain decisions. In your company, you won't do everything the way you want. You need someone there on your side, helping.

It's an assistant, it's agreement. However, the last word is mine. Even if he said he wouldn't buy, I know the needs inside the house, even because I'm there longer inside the house than he is. So I know what he really needs inside the house. And if he says no?

There's no way he doesn't say no.

Has he ever said no to anything?

No, it's hard. He never said no. Because I'll always argue with him and I'll explain. When you say he never said no, do you dose your desires a little?

No.

For buying, for consuming?

No. I'm very spendthrift. I'm very spendthrift. I like it a lot. I'm a consumerist. There's no way. The media starts bombing us. And we can't say no. But, jokes aside, when it comes to things inside the house, I have my schedule,

I have my schedule of what I'll need, what I won't need, the budget of the house, what I'm going to buy. And there's no way we can go to the market and buy only what's on the list.

We're always going to buy more. As much as we have a good electrician, we will always want to exchange.

Women here know.

But he has to agree in some way.

No, he will see. There are things he will see at home and will look at, wow, how beautiful. And sometimes he won't even have this perception of realizing that he bought. Even because men don't have much perception of what they bought. If it's not something big, there's no way he sees it. Sometimes he goes unnoticed. That's why we women have to be there, helping, organizing,

looking at finances. In my case, I can control the money. He himself says, my love, if it's not you, I spend the money. And he's worse than me at spending. So I'm the one who controls the money.

When he says that the last word is from the man, it depends on the women, it depends on the people, it depends on the relationship. Because if it's a relationship in agreement, that the man understands the role of the woman, he understands that the woman inside the house,

she has more vision than what is missing, what is the need of both children and an electrician, as well as a painting of the house. She said that her husband is an engineer, he understands more of the engineering area. But we women also, it is a saying that says, of a doctor and crazy, everyone has a little. But we women stand out, not that we are going to take the place of the man, each in his role, each one in their place.

However, women have more perception, women are more visionary. Women can perceive what they need around them.

One thing is to perceive, another thing is to use the money.

And use it. But when a woman has total control, together with her husband, of his money and hers, because it's both, because he goes to work, but he goes to work to bring the family's livelihood. He and his wife, his children, are a family.

So he already knows that his wife will manage, will know how to sit with him, just for love. The accounts are here, water, electricity, telephone, internet, college, children's course, football. I'm You know, the wife he married. That's why I say, if there are women who sometimes have difficulty in a relationship, it's because sometimes the choices were bad. Sometimes they rushed. What does she say if she doesn't have the money to leave?

If she doesn't have the money, it's because she married the wrong person. However, if she married a man who understands, who realizes that he goes to work and the wife is at home taking care of their things, taking care of the kids, the house, organizing, making the happy home, when he gets stressed from work, because working outside is stressful... But then he's running away a lot. No.

The final decision. The final decision, as I'm saying, the final decision is always mine. Always mine. I don't believe it. I guess is all final a simple Mia Simple Mia Puss vamula in Casa a Vamos La Encasa Ligo Agora Poso Ele vai Falar Com você

Pois Vai Passa um dia La Encasa que você vai ver Vou Lidar um Ensinamento a seu Esposo Validade Tudo I said suppose validae to do I'm abusive behaviors and ends up bringing it to the home. When a man lives in a relationship where he sees his father mistreating his mother, beating her, even if he says he won't do it with his wife, that when he gets married it will be different, there's no way because it's in his subconscious and ends up wanting or not influencing. But when a man or woman leaves a well-structured family, he will see the example of his father and want to bring it into their lives.

They saw that it was a harmonious home, that they had a balanced family. So if most men, as you say, I don't believe in statistics, do this, it's because they came from a family... Why do you believe in statistics? Because sometimes the media wants to bring what is good for them, but in reality they won't get 70% or 80% of the profit. They live off statistics.

Do you know how many women have income in Brazil today? 28 million women don't have income. And it's not a silly statistic. But in the past, women were from the home, and they survived well, they lived well, they had a well-structured family. Nowadays, crime has increased a lot.

The lack of a mother in the home brings a lot of discord, it brings a lot of consequences for the children, and many times they become rebellious,, depressed, stressed children. Why? Because the mother is not giving the necessary support that a mother can give. But do you think that if the mother does that, everyone who has depression, irritated children, do you think it's because of the mother?

No, not everyone, but most of them do. Some are already of the genetic, but when a mother spends most of her time away from home, she won't be able to suffer being close to her son, taking care of him, seeing his growth, seeing his evolution and having that perception that there's something out of the ordinary in my son. As much as she says, oh no, I'm going to get home, I'll be able to see, she can't. One hour she'll get home tired, the stress work, the traffic, the boss, a client who treated her badly, and then she gets overloaded.

And when she gets home, she'll have a lot of things to think about until she discharges all that energy and remembers, Oops, I have to pay attention to my son, Oops, I have to know what my son has, what happened at school with him. What do you see the role of the man in this whole function? The man is the provider, but he is also the companion, he is the friend, he is the one who is there to be by the side of the wife, of the children, and is also participating in the life of the children.

He is there, he has that moment in the family, a united family, sitting to watch together, talking, knowing how the day of the wife was, how the day of the children was. That's what it has to be for a man. He's there actively participating. Sometimes, if he has time, he goes out earlier, goes to school, goes to meetings, has that family dinner, the table.

Nowadays, families have lost the habit of sitting at the table. Yes, yes. Because there's no time, because they work a lot, they work outside, to We've reached the end of this episode, which was amazing. We raised a very interesting topic about women who are trophy wives and women who are entrepreneurs and work and have their own source of income. I believe it was a very valid discussion, especially for women who are going to watch to understand if they are in this role or not.

I really liked it, and you were amazing, wonderful here today. Congratulations. wonderful here today. Congratulations. Thank you very much.