1 POLICIAL X 31 MACONHEIROS | FT. SGT CASTRO

You didn't bring an argument, brother, answer!

Who finances the crime and who finances what's happening in Rio de Janeiro is the state.

All you said was f***, f***, f***.

I'm going to speak now.

No, stay there now!

Completely disrespectful.

This argument that the gateway to other drugs is such an outdated thing that I'm even lazy.

Hey, who's going to plant there?

What a piece of shit that exists in the country, f***! It's USP, man!

Considered the best university in Brazil.

Why are you using drugs?

What?

Did you agree with me? Oh, f*** you, man!

You're not letting me speak! Police lose their lives, drug dealers lose their lives, you know why? Because you are poor, because I don't know a rich policeman.

No, let me talk.

1 minute 8, how many seconds is it?

No, I want to talk.

Next. Lower the ball, let me talk. Let me talk.

Stop.

And let the police do... Your noise for me is music. The point is your brain, you are destroyed. No, wait a little, wait a little. You're a bad person! Wait a minute! I'm explaining! What I know is marijuana! You're from the university, right?

No, I'm from the street.

Something that PM doesn't need.

I agree!

You want to convince him!

Where did you buy your marijuana?

I plant my marijuana! You're a gas user, right? You look like a gas user! You finance drug trafficking plant my marijuana. Come here, you're a gasoline user, right? You look like a gasoline user.

You finance drug trafficking without smoking marijuana.

He's a good bandit! He's a dead bandit, right?

Belém! Marijuana! Marijuana! Marijuana! Marijuana is good for smoking marijuana. Now, to get a rifle and face the police, you don't have the courage. So, no, who are the ones who finish here! I've been in the police for 8 years, I joined the police in 1987 Today I'm on social media, I have my podcast And today we're going to debate here, me against 26 potheads

Potheads, really, real potheads Because if you're here, you're a pothead, man It's not comedy, no So let's debate and let's go up My first statement is Is marijuana the gateway to the heaviest drugs?

Ok.

Let's let him sit and I'll say ok.

Right?

Ok.

Very good, good afternoon, Sergeant. I'm Caio. I'm a cook, a communicator. I have a channel called Cuisina 420. I vehemently disagree that marijuana is the gateway to other drugs. First, because drugs...

Drugs is a very broad concept, which we reduce. So when we talk about drugs, people are usually referring to illicit drugs, when in fact drugs are the definition of a substance that causes a psychoactive effect on you.

It can be caffeine, passiflora... It's illicit now, and we're here fighting for legalization. So it's a drug that's in the illegal state, It's legal now, and we're fighting for legalization. Ok. Right? Ok. So it's a drug that's illegal, right? And then, when you say,

Oh, it's a doorstep for other drugs.

Right.

Why? Because when a person goes to a smoking area, somewhere like that, they're supposed to have contact with other drugs, right?

Right, right.

But, it happens that, like, we can consider, for example, Is coffee a gateway to drugs? Or is alcohol a gateway to drugs? Or is tobacco... Sorry, what's your name?

Caio. Caio, Caio, here's the thing. First of all, coffee and drinks are not on the agenda, you know? I consider drinks to be a drug, so much so that I don't drink, you take one, then you take the paracetamol constantly, there will come a time when that paracetamol will no longer work, you will have to take two. And what happens with marijuana is this. My experience, my experience as a policeman... That's right, and thankfully, because this process is called tolerance, and it is thanks to it that you can go to a barbecue, drink 5 beers and leave in peace because when you drank your first beer in your life, you got way more drunk

when you drank your first cachaça, you got way more drunk but what happens, Caio? the guy goes to the potty, and says, I got crazy, I got crazy and he goes, oh, that's cool, it'll be there in an hour I'm not saying this is your thing I'm saying this varies from person to person. So it's a door to get in because there are people who don't just stay in the marijuana.

Damn, marijuana is no longer giving me a cool breeze, you know? So I'm going to try other drugs.

But is it because... Have you ever smoked marijuana?

No, I've never smoked.

So I'll explain... I don't even smoke cigarettes.

Well, I'll explain to rid of my pain, I smoke for my psoriasis, I don't want to get mega crazy. But since you use it to get rid of your pain, you go to the doctor and he will prescribe you cannabidiol. No, but I went, I have the prescription and he prescribed me cannabidiol and THC. Then it's legal, you know what I mean? What I don't agree with is you buying marijuana and feeding the crime. I don't agree either. Let's legalize it.

No, but if you legalize it...

No.

But if you legalize it, you won't stop feeding the crime. You know why? Because the crime will sell cheaper. It will sell a worse drug and cheaper. It it's worse. But the crime doesn't do that to everything. I'm going to pass now. No, but you can't legalize it, you can't legalize it, okay? Come on, next.

Go ahead.

Hello, nice to meet you. I'm Gisele Pontes. I'm a neuropsychologist and I commit myself today here to bring the scientific bias of cannabis, of cannabidiol. So I already bring the information that marijuana is the way out of many drugs. And what I'm saying is not based on sources in my head, but on scientific studies that were done with crack and cocaine users, where it was shown that more than 70% of users,

after consuming marijuana, they stopped consuming cocaine and crack. And in psychology, we work a lot on a policy that you know very well, which is the reduction of damage. And within the reduction of damage, we think like this, what is more harmful, cocaine, crack, or a plant that you go there, see a seed, you...

literally plant and it's born. For example, with all due respect, do you like fruits?

I do.

So, the fruits you eat, where do they come from?

But I don't smoke them, I just eat them.

Yes, that's fine, that's fine.

I eat them and I don't go crazy.

I eat pineapple and I don't go crazy.

When you... You brought up an argument that when we legalize, decriminalize, the traffic will sell a product that we don't even know what it is. But I'm saying it's a seed, we're going to plant it and we'll have access to something 100% natural. Your name is?

Gisele Ponto.

Gisele, Gisele. Let's not waste too much time, because we won't have time for everyone to ask. Of course. First, it starts like this. I don't know... Look, if you knew me, you'd introduce me to a guy who was in crack, and left crack and went back to marijuana.

I have...

I don't know.

I know.

I don't know.

Look, it's a lie, second. I respect your... your... your science part, but I agree with the doctor prescribing cannabidiol, which for me, cannabidiol, it's different from the smoked marijuana. Why? Cannabidiol has the same effect, but cannabidiol, it's prescribed by a doctor and it is sold legally. Do you understand? Legally. The marijuana... My problem with marijuana, I'll explain it to you.

My problem with marijuana is that from the moment you buy it, you are financing this disgrace that is happening in Rio de Janeiro.

The problem now is not that, but it will come. No, but what I'm trying to say to you is that marijuana is the gateway to other drugs. I affirm, based on scientific studies, you can research whoever is interested, marijuana is in fact the gateway to other drugs. And when you said you don't know any cracker, I bring scientific studies.

I'm going to tell you that who did this scientific study is a marijuana addict.

It's not. Sure, sure, I'm not you scientific studies, made of water. I'm telling you that who did this scientific study is a weeder. It's not. Sure, sure, it's not made of water.

It's a weeder.

With all due respect, you're being a denialist right now.

I'm not bringing sources of denial. If I were a denialist, if I were a denialist, if I were a denialist, I wouldn't be here saying thatabis, but I'm not a denier. We'll talk about this soon. Thank you very much. Let's go. Good afternoon, sergeant. I'll start here, you send the bullet.

My name is Gabriel, I'm 28 years old, I'm a medical patient, but first I wanted to answer this statement that marijuana is the gateway. In fact, a study published by IBGE shows that alcohol is the gateway to other drugs.

Young people...

But the drink is not in the pot, it's the drug. Yes, but the point is to be the gateway. I'm saying it's not, because the study published by IBGE shows that 66% of young people and teenagers between 13 and 17 years old consumed alcohol during this period. That is, people start with alcohol, then they can go to marijuana, but they start with alcohol.

Alcohol is the true gateway to other drugs.

On top of what you said, alcoholic beverages are legal. They are authorized to sell, right? Nowadays, there was a period when it was forbidden. If it was forbidden, I'd be fighting against the drunkard. But today I'm with the marijuana because it's legal. The day the marijuana is legal, we won't have this conversation.

I respect the law. I'm a legalist. We're saying that the marijuana is illegal. So if it's a door to the entrance, we're saying it's a door to the law. We are saying here that marijuana is illegal. So if it's a door to the entrance, I'm talking about the entrance door, the drink is also a door to the entrance. But the drink generates resources for the state. You pay taxes. But if marijuana were legalized, I would also.

The state is not worried about you. The state is not worried about you. With your name, Gabriel. It's not worry about Gabriel. What the state is worried about, what the government is worried about, is that the more marijuana you have, the more it will overload the SUS. So he's worried about that. He's worried... He's not worried about you. If it weren't for that, if you download a law like this, we're going to release the drug,

we're going to release the drug, but the marijuana dealer won't be able to use the SUS. The government releases it the next day. Because the concern is not with you. The concern is with the health and safety situation. The prohibition of marijuana...

I was going to talk about the...

It's fast.

I'm zeroing in here. Let's go. Wait a minute.

My name is Gustavo Ferrari. I'm doing it right here, I'm doing it right here Let's go, wait a little Time My name is Gustavo Ferrari

Gustavo

I'm 20 years old And I disagree that marijuana is the gateway, why? In question that you said that The other day The SUS, if the SUS, if marijuana was released In question of the SUS that you said

I agree, this is true, because most of the marijuana users have Prescriptions of depressionDAH and etc. Most of them, with false prescriptions, in my opinion.

But in terms of the entry, I don't agree.

You mean to say that the weed addict is also a fake document?

No, he's not a fake.

You said he's a fake?

Most of the weed addicts have TDAH, have depression, I don't know why.

For some reason.

Because he uses weed, man. Exactly, I agree. depression I'm going to zero in.

I'm going to fall off the chair.

Don't fall, don't fall.

The chair is crooked.

It's crooked. I'm going to zero in.

Go ahead.

Okay.

Send it.

Wow, it's so many things.

What's your name? Don't start with your name.

My name is Natalia, better known as Nabriza. I'm a creator and activist. Damn, man. This is a very characteristic nickname. I'm a creator of cannabis content and an activist for legalization for more than 14 years. So I wanted to say that this argument that the gateway to other drugs is such an outdated thing that I'm even lazy, but we need to bring this up. It's the agenda.

It has already been said here, I think I asked the guys to raise their hands, what was the first drug you used? What was the alcohol? Coffee. Coffee. Coffee is also a drug.

Let's go.

Sugar. So I'm addicted. Yes. Everything that has a psychoactive effect on your brain is considered a drug. That's why you go to a drugstore to buy medicine, because it's a drug. It has a psychoactive effect too. The question you asked about why marijuana is illegal,

will it overload SUS, when it legalizes, etc. I don't agree with that. It will have a higher search of health care if we...

It will overload.

No, wait, let me finish. If we put endocannabinoid treatment, cannabinoid treatment in SUS, and that would be a good thing. Why? Because if we provide for free or in an affordable price for those who need it to use it, we will be able to break half of the legs of those who are selling illegally. Wait, I'm not done, I didn't finish.

No, but let me finish.

Let's go, let's go.

And that's precisely the point. We don't want to overload the SUS, and we want to take away the people who don't have access to a quality herb, to a quality plant, and to a treatment, from the illegality. So, when you say that legalizing will overload the SUS, it's like you're saying it's a dangerous substance that causes harm. And that's the big question, that's the big myth.

It's a therapeutic plant.

I don't know anyone who went to the doctor in the south and said, okay, I'm a marijuana user and I'm having health problems. No, you're going to have lung problems, you're going to have problems...

But you're talking about smoking.

So, the person smokes. She's going to a lung problem. The first thing that will... So, the first thing that will attack the vaporizer, this vape is also prohibited. It is prohibited.

Oh, no, but the vape is also prohibited.

Come on. You will have a problem of... You will have a vascular problem.

You will have a lung problem. So, it's true that I'm lying.

That's it. I'm not lying. So it's a lie that I'm lying. No, it's the gentleman who is lying. No, no. Come on.

Let me talk.

Let me talk.

You already said it. You're not letting me talk. What a debate.

You already said it.

The person will not come there and say, okay, doctor, I've been smoking marijuana for 18 years,

I'm fucked now. I'm going to the hospital. Then you'll replace a person who never smoked marijuana and needed that bed. So the government isn't worried about you, Nabriza. They're worried about the effects that marijuana will have on your health

and will destroy the public system.

But that's where you're not getting it. The marijuana you know, the pressed one, that brick full of rat pee and stuff, that marijuana...

But that's what you smoke, man!

No...

That's what you smoke!

Fuck, man!

That's what you smoke in your mouth, fuck!

Unfortunately...

Now you're...

I'm trying to talk, he's not letting me...

No, that's what you smoke in your mouth, fuck!

Fuck, man! I'm gonna be loud and not let you talk. Let's go. The marijuana that we know, unfortunately, that most people have access to, is the pressed marijuana. Why? Because it comes from the drug trade. In the drug trade, it's much more interesting to press, because it's easier to transport.

Ok, but where do you buy the marijuana?

Let me finish talking, fuck!

Fuck!

Where do you buy the marijuana?

This is not a debate, it. If you want my contact to arrest him, I'm not going to miss it. Then you buy from the drug dealer.

No. Then you buy from the drug dealer. I don't buy. You want to arrest him.

I don't buy. Because he's a drug dealer. I don't buy. You buy from the drug dealer.

I have a prescription.

I don't buy from the drug dealer. Can I explain what vaporized use is? Ok, let's go. What's the difference between inhaled, smoked and vaporized use? When we light a fire, do we throw fire? He doesn't let me talk, man!

Let's go to the fireman, let's go to the fireman.

The fireman will fix everything.

Let me just say one thing. One debate is one thing, the other is another. Ok, say it, say it on fire, we're inhaling carbon monoxide, alcatran.

Smoking is not cool. If you put a chamomile tea on fire and smoke it, it won't be cool, because you'll inhale smoke.

Chamomile tea won't... It's not a product you can buy at the market.

But we're not talking about that.

Then smoke a chamomile tea, damn it!

We're not talking about that. I'll smoke a cigar. I smoke too, with a pipe, is that it? You smoke everything, huh? Ok, I would like to be able to conclude my reasoning, but unfortunately... Yeah, you're interrupting me.

You want to keep talking here?

Smoking is really harmful, that's why we want people... Damn, did you agree with me? You're not letting me speak! Damn, what the hell, man! It's awesome when the argumentation capacity doesn't exist and keeps trying to interrupt. I No, you want to convince me? You understood? You want to convince me that marijuana is good? Marijuana is not good.

Marijuana destroys your brain. You are destroyed.

Oh my God, this argument... Can I talk about this?

Time's up.

If he let me talk...

Thank God, time's up.

Come on, guys. My next statement is this. If you buy marijuana, you finance the crime. Ok? Come on, the next one. It's a marijuana dealer.

Guys, I'm just going to say something. I didn't let Ana Brisa say it, but it's 15 minutes. If the person comes here to argue that it's Platão who smoked marijuana, the It's fast, it's fast game, it's fast game! Ok, but then let's talk. No, it's fast game, let's go. I won't interrupt anyone, but it's fast game, let's go.

Ok, but then let's talk.

Let's go.

My name is Bruna, I'm 31 years old, I'm graduated in International Relations and I work with marketing, ok? But then I want to ask you a question. Right. And if the marijuana I buy is legalized? Because nowadays you can't just buy cannabidiol oil, you can buy flowers, even in nature. You can even buy it in the pharmacy, you can legally import it, and most importantly, you can plant it at home. Because the court allowed us to have access to the habia cor so that we could plant it in our homes.

Correct.

When we talk about financing, we have to think about the proportion, how much marijuana actually represents, in terms of values,

within the trafficking.

Right.

There are data, including from the police of Rio de Janeiro, that within the factions, marijuana represents only 8% of their funding. And then, when we stop to look at the issue of trafficking, the issue of who profits from it, man, it's not the trafficker, it's not the user, it's the drug dealers.

What do you think? For example, the rifles that are bought in Rio, where are they bought from? They are bought from some businessman, right? This businessman makes a lot of money. This same businessman sells to the police and to the drug dealers.

So, who do you think really finances the money they have to buy buy guns, buy things.

Let's not take too long, I already have the answer for you. First, first, smart question, smart question, not that you're not, but let's go. First, this 8% you're talking about is now, why? The organized crime in Rio today, it doesn't prioritize marijuana anymore, it doesn't prioritize drug trafficking. What does it prioritize?

Territory. So it's easier and less dangerous for organized crime to bring imported marijuana to the press, roll it up, sell it, or put a CV-net there. Which one pays more?

Do you agree that marijuana doesn't finance drug trafficking?

No, it, finance it. Yes, finance it. Yes, finance the trafficking. Because, unfortunately, you buy the drug from the dealer. The day you... Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm explaining.

You already said it, I'm explaining. Hey, Nabrizah, let me talk. Ok, but let me explain to you. Let me explain to you. Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Of 100,000 potters, 10 buy legalized, the rest buy at the mouth of traffic, right? Don't tell me it's the other way around. Who buys legalized that can bring from outside,

oops, is the playboy. The potters who are there destroying families, the potters who are destroying families, because if you don't know, I'll take you to the favela and show you where the destruction is The destruction is not you, who cares, who buys flowers

You think this is because of the marijuana?

Wait a minute, wait a minute It's not you who cares, who buys flowers, who buys a car It's the guy who goes there and says, sir, give me a 10 This guy is financing the crime Then the crime has money to buy the rifle.

Do you think R$10 is enough to finance the crime?

No, R$10 is not enough. No, no, no. R$10 is not enough. But if I... R$10,000 out of R$10 is enough to finance. Do you understand? You're putting one.

I'm not saying one pothead. No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna go to the key Was it a machine to follow?

It's a genesis of a new Brazil against a second say since in Quintamil pacientes medicinales

650 million percent was a machine

Can you follow us a deal with Michael for the say? 1,000,800,000 potters in Brazil. That's a lot. That's the potters, you guys. You're showing your faces to hit here.

Thanks to you.

Because the others are hiding. You're showing your faces to hit. So you're being recognized as potters.

Right?

That's good.

So what happens? Financial... Change.

Next.

Go ahead, go ahead.

Well, I'm Eduardo Pirro, I work as a commercial director

I brought a lot of stuff here

Of course, you think a pothead doesn't study? I work as a commercial director of a law firm that even has a specialist in open cases, like our friend brought and let's bring a little more science because this data you brought, I think you took it from your pocket

No, no, no, no, where you got it It's on Google

No, it's ok, let's go There's a research

I don't have money to pay the GPT

There's a research from the Federal University of Pelotas Pelotas? Come on, man

It's the Federal University of Pelotas

If you want to criticize the university Federal University starts somewhere, it's all a mess Every Federal University Every Federal University starts from there, it's all weed. All Federal University, all University, all weed.

Sir, do you want me to...

Ok, wait a minute.

It's a scientific study. What study do I have to quote? Since there's no weed, why don't you authorize the toxicological exam?

But, man, let's go.

But in the police there's weed too.

I'm not a hypocrite. There is too. Sergeant, Sergeant! If we find out, we cut you in the flesh! Sergeant, calm down! You need to take a little sip! It's my way!

God is free!

According to the research of the Federal University of Pelotas, which you don't want to believe, it's your choice, you will believe either the sergeant or a university, ok? 50% of people,

50.7% to be more precise, 50.7% of people have already used cannabis in Brazil

This is a research data, ok?

This is from university visitors, right?

No, this is research, it was not done only with students It was done with the population of Brazil What a research, man, from the jail door Send it there, send it there The research was not done only with students, it was done with the population of Brazil. At some point here, you brought a data of 20 people, 10 thousand, so you just brought this to break it here. Now, when you talk about criminalization that finances and everything, man, in fact, I think it finances. Finances with 8%, finances with 8% as the colleague brought here. Now, if it finances, let's bring a proposal to solve this?

How?

What is your proposal?

Now, let's go. We can have a regulation about this plant. And then I've seen podcasts, you'll say, no, it will be solved, it will plant there, there, there. Okay, now I'll put two situations. Today, 100%, according to your words, 100% is in the hands of the traffic. I want to bring to a situation that will simply decrease this. I agree with you that there will be a legal market, as there is in alcohol, as there is in cigarettes,

but you will take away the force in a relevant way, because when you have this with alcohol, let's take here, how many percent of the population consume legal alcohol, how many percent consumes legal? You will weaken in a very vehement way the other side. So, you say that this is not good because it will continue, it's a very weak argument.

Okay, come on. Do you know why I don't agree with you, legalization? Let's talk about legalization, you're running away from the topic, but you talked about legalization. Legalization, my brother, will bring new people to consume drugs that won't have the discernment you have. You understand? It will bring people with weak heads, marijuana, drugs. Half of them already smoke. No, no, no. Half of them already smoke. smoke, the school's weed smoker, from the university he went to.

I'm not going to put it on the agenda, because today you go to any university you go to, weed reigns. It's there. So it's all weed. Take me there! You went to college where?

I went to college at USP. You went to college where? USP. Chemical Engineering at USP.

USP USP? It's the only potter school in the country, fuck! It's USP, fuck!

It's considered the best university in Brazil What? It's considered the best university in Brazil

Why is it the best in the country? Because the others are at the same level

Because there's a potter for each class

Look at the level! Look at the level!

While all of them are bad, one has to show up better, but everything is bad. You're saying that here is where the marijuana is, but how is it better if the marijuana is bad?

It doesn't make sense, Sergeant.

I'll tell you something. The state doesn't want to legalize it, it's not because good marijuana will come, bad marijuana, it's because... Thanks, man. Thanks, brother. Thanks. Holy shit, the marijuana here was faster.

I think I have to press the button

No, liberal, the world is free of competition It comes first, right? Your name? Gustavo, better known as Tampa So, here's the thing Tampa is for weed

Yes, Tampa is for closed-minded people Here's the thing You said that the weed guy financed the traffic, right? Yes Today, according to the Brazilian Forum for Public Safety, a study published this year,

including very updated data,

Brazilian Forum for Public Safety. I don't know this forum, but ok, send the ball, send the ball. There's a lot that the military police don't know. Send the ball, send the ball.

Send the ball.

But what I know is the drug dealer. Right, at the university, right? No, no, on the street, in the favela. Something that the PM doesn't need, the college. Let's go. It's like this. Let's go, let's go. Today, according to this official data, drug trafficking profits annually in Brazil. Organized crime with the sale of illegal drugs, 15 billion per year.

That's a lot of money, right? A lot, a lot. That you finance.

A lot. Right. A lot of things. The organized crime, this same organized crime, earns 10 times more,

150 billion, selling gasoline, cigarettes and drinks.

Right.

Come here, you're a gasoline user, right? You look like a gasoline user.

You finance drug trafficking without smoking pot. But I smoke gasoline. Faria Lima finances drug trafficking without smoking pot.

Fuck.

Real estate speculation is validated for drug trafficking without smoking pot fuck real estate speculation is validated drug trafficking without smoking pot the most pot-smoking thought I've ever seen organized crime has nothing to do with pot and I'm very impressed by a 38-year-old cop not knowing this because it shows that the police are well-informed

what's your name? Gustavo Tampa Gustavo, let me tell you something fuck, what does it have to do with the fucking gasoline? with the fucking pot you What are you buying, bro? It's bad. Buy something of lower quality, man. A legalized one. If it's legalized... If it's legalized, there will be...

Abescorpus? There are a lot of people here who take out Abescorpus. You didn't bring an argument, brother. Answer! All you said was fuck, fuck, fuck. Say something. Say something what? I'm talking.

Do you want to hear me? I'm talking! Do you want to hear me? Do you want to hear me? Do you want to hear me? How can I debate with someone who doesn't know how to debate? In front of the camera you are a man, right? Let me talk! In front of the camera you are a man, right? If necessary, I can do this here, right?

You're drunk, boy! You're drunk! Argument! Do you want an argument? Then let me talk! When the ass said it, I was crying. Ok? You're all fucking drugged. I'm going to say it now. The gasoline has nothing to do with the agenda. Start there.

You're on the wrong agenda.

Yeah.

Lower the ball.

Let me say it.

Let me say it. Let me say it. When one speaks, the drug addict stays quiet. Let me say it, damn it. Fuck, man. Let's go. I'm gonna have a Gasoline I don't think I'm a cool yeah, told us I kiss on told us I can tell some of you said he doesn't even

Have to get okay. Yeah, I don't wanna know. Yeah, I don't know Don't move again. I'll be the only bus or baby car or baby motor car. I'll use it I'll say it doesn't stop all my son. I'm gonna come back on your poor house. I'm gonna It's a meme, it's on the agenda. It's on the agenda. For the end, for the end. PUSSY! PUSSY! PUSSY! PUSSY! PUSSY! Just to finish, just to finish.

No, no, who finishes are them here. No, no, no, no. You're in shock. Get out, get out. You're in shock. You came to talk about gasoline, you're gonna fuck yourself! You didn't come here to talk about gasoline, did you?

I came here to talk about marijuana!

You came here to talk about what? Marijuana! Yeah, fucker! Don't talk about gasoline!

Well, regarding financing...

Wait, wait, I have a good time here.

Play it, go! I thank you for the opportunity to be here. We are not representing only us. We are representing millions of people, including the dead. So we finance the trafficking, unfortunately, because there is no alternative. If I could buy at the pharmacy, if I could plant more easily, it's not a matter of being legalized or criminalized, it's being facilitated.

It's like the great Bized or criminalized, it's about being facilitated. It's like the great Biserra da Silva says, my neighbor threw a seed in my backyard and I already lost a bush. If we're buying 30 reais for a gram of marijuana, 1 real goes to the dealer who died this week, the 29 goes to the bosses of the bosses.

Good, very smart.

I would love not to finance the trafficking anymore.

Good, thank you, brother. But it's not a boss. Good, very smart. I would love not to finance the traffic anymore.

Good, thank you, brother.

But it's not facilitated.

Sit down, I'll give you my answer. But my fight is precisely this, brother. I'm not against marijuana, I'm not against the plant, I'm against financing the crime.

I'm in favor of legalization.

I'm in favor of legalization. I'm in favor of legalization! I'm in favor of legalization! I'm in favor! I'm in favor! What's going on? Now I'll explain! I'm in favor of legalization since...

since... You don't overload the SUS! Wait a minute! Calm down!

You don't overload the SUS! I didn't understand that. Like the SUS consumer being patient

No, no, no, let me explain, let me explain, you being patient Because if you release, there will be a greater amount of people who will adhere to the drug Ok, this is normal, there will be a greater amount of people who will adhere to the drug A greater amount of people who will adhere to the drug, this is the one saying this, it's scientific. People will have more lung problems, they'll have more circulatory problems, they'll have more...

But this tobacco leads to the gasoline smoke

that we breathe, it leads even more to this anxiety.

But marijuana is illicit, so I'm against it.

We don't need to smoke, we can vaporize.

So, the day we legalize and pay taxes, the day we legalize and pay taxes and you don't finance the crime, then you legalized,

my brother.

I'm talking to you. Legalized. What is legal for me, I support. Period.

It's over.

Beauty? Ready. This is intelligence. It's not the guy who came to talk about gasoline. Ah, gasoline, fuck, take it in the ass, you fucking gasoline! 5 seconds, man! No, no, no, but give him a little time, just 5 seconds. Let him formulate the question and let me answer.

He's not a weed addict? No, all good?

You're not a weed addict?

What are you doing here, man?

It's because I'm in favor of the mass league. So let's go'll let you formulate. But be quick in the question, huh? I'll let you formulate. No, it took. I'm Guilherme Tramontano, I'm a libertarian, I'm in favor of the release of marijuana, neither legalization nor regulation. And I want to understand why you think that the SUS will overload, being that probably the quality of the drug will rise,

so the damage to health that it will cause are smaller. Can I answer? Yes, of course. Let's go. It will get worse because when legalized it will be more expensive, correct? No, wait a minute, calm down, calm down, calm down, calm down, it will be more expensive because the government can take over a pharmacy, then taxes will roll, wait a minute, labor taxes, wait a minute, labor tax, a lot of things that will be on top of the marijuana. Then what will happen? the dealer will sell another marijuana of worse quality

cheaper and the guy who doesn't have money like you like others who have money will buy from the dealer so it will continue

I look rich

no, you're not a marijuana dealer for me, if you're not a marijuana dealer, you're rich so, then what happens? the guy goes there to buy a lower drug

but what about the freedom of the guy to plant at home? Because if the guy plants at home and gives the seed to a friend of his, to another, this is individual freedom, isn't it?

Cool.

So...

Thanks.

Let's go, my next statement... Oh, silence, silence... My next statement is... There is no successful weed. Let's go!

Good afternoon!

Good afternoon, brother! Wait, let me reset. I'll start here, come on! I press slowly, it won't... There, now it's done!

Good afternoon, Sergeant! My name is Walter. I work as an auxiliary maintenance of the railroad. First, I wanted to put a rule. Define success. It's a rich person, it's a person who has a job, who is professionalized. Define this success for me, so we can have a rule.

Let's go. Success is to be successful in your life, to have a family, your family being a centered family, you know? That's success for me.

Perfect.

It's not just money, it's not just money.

No, it's not just money.

Good.

So, you agree with me that the person she works for, she supports her family And on the weekend, on the day off, after work, she smokes a cigarette to be calm and get a good mood She's hurting who?

Good question, very good question Give him a round of applause, it was a good question Good question, let's go My brother, this person that is there, worked all day, worked cool, home, she bought a pack to smoke on the weekend, you financed the crime. Start there, no, okay, let's go. Everyone knows that I financed the crime, because today it is not legalized yet.

I financed the crime, come on. Okay, okay, you're financing the crime, but you're not causing harm to anyone. My problem, my brother, is in the favelas. I've been to a lot of favelas. I'll just tell you a quick story about a woman's house. I got to her house and there was nothing. There was only a sofa and a shelf.

Her gas canister, to use it, she used it and left it at the neighbor's house. Otherwise her son would sell it. It's this user... Oh, there's no one. Oh, there's no one. Oh, okay. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to interrupt you for a moment. What weed is this that sells gas? What is he going to eat later? The larica is going to hit him. But my brother, my brother, he's not worried. My brother, the guy is not worried.

Doctor, you're confusing the substance. Wait a minute.

I'm confusing the substance, but you can go look that this guy started with marijuana. Where did he go? He went to crack, he went to cocaine. Let me get into this topic. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm just talking about you.

It's that you live in a world of Bob. Are you done with the drought? No, I'm not. You live in a world of Bob. You live in a world where, oh, I buy my marijuana, I go home, I pay for the crime. So release the little plant at home, man. But the little plant is already released. The Supreme Court has already released it. The Supreme Court has released it.

For which SEP? Wait a minute, wait a minute. You can carry, look, carry 40 grams. Perfect. You can carry. This does not mean that you can smoke on the street. Carry is to carry, right.

Carry, carry. You can carry 40 grams and have a quantity of female plants that you can have in your house. Good, got it? So that's it.

You can look there, read it, it's written. So the security I have is that no state will enter my house and say that I'm selling my medicine.

If you're selling, you're going to fuck yourself. No, but who proves it? The word of the policeman against the law. No, no, no, no, no're assuming this is your ideas. Where do you buy your marijuana?

I plant my marijuana.

You plant?

I plant my marijuana. Do you plant your marijuana?

Land, light, water, seed.

Good.

Then consume your marijuana and you will be happy.

But I want all marijuana growers to have this right, doctor.

But there is. I want all marijuana growers to have this right. The STF has already released it, go there! Only in your mind, only in your mind. No, it's written there, man, not in my mind. Ah, but you don't want to have a thousand feet in your house, right? You're going to film a thousand feet! You're going to film... Ah, excuse me!

Ah, excuse me! Do you want a thousand feet of marijuana at home, man? Build a fucking farm! Come on!

Which camera? Good afternoon... Tell me your name, brother. Good afternoon, I'm Ricardo, I practice martial arts, I'm not a marijuana user. Right.

I'm also in favor of vagabonds having to take shots and all that.

Good, fuck!

But here's the thing, I think that the successful marijuana, the businessman, he has to have the freedom to use a product,

get rid of the bad and go for the good.

Right.

So we should ban it, let the businessman, the person who knows how to use the product, in a good way, to the society. And get rid of the slumdog. Because the slumdog will use it to keep the guy addicted, to take him to more, to such thing.

If you get rid of this option of the dealer, you weaken the dealer.

Ah, but then, meanwhile, this will have to legalize. Meanwhile, legalizing it was unlawful and it's forbidden and that's it. Next! Next!

I got it, I got it, I got it.

We have to wait, right?

Wait a minute.

Go there, ahead, bro. What's up, guys? My name is Rafael Almeida, I'm 28 years old, I'm an enthusiast and I've been working in the industry for a long time. You said that marijuana is not legalized. No, no. The point is about success. Ok, let's start from the beginning of success. You said that in order to be successful, you need to have a family. There are many people in the world who don't have a family and are successful. Success is characterized by the moment you make the decision to change, to be in motion, to seek improvement.

Right?

I understand.

Yes.

The other issue you talk about is also this issue of legalization, of access, taking CBD out as if it were not a single plant.

Right.

CBD is a cannabinoid that is present in the plant, just like the other 150 cannabinoids that are present there.

Right.

Right? that are present there. So we can't start from this principle and exclude the common plant which has therapeutic potential for many functions, including THC, for pain, for...

Anyway, many... Let's go! The subject didn't say it, let's go! Many purposes, but this doesn't exclude a person from being successful or not. I've been a pothead for a long time. I consider myself a successful person. Because of this lady, because of other people who are here too,

who gave me the word and who brought me information, that I got into a situation and I said, no. I understand that an action I can do here can make it easier for others. The problem, look, the problem is that you live in the world of Bob. Bob Marley No, Bob is the one with the bicycle, not Bob Marley Let me tell you, you live in a world like this

I'm smoking my weed here at home, I plant, I do this, I do that My concern is not you guys, man My concern is the young man who is smoking weed and is going to crime That's my concern, you know? Let me explain now, That's my concern. So when I tell you that you're not successful,

it's this young man who could be a successful businessman.

And the young man who is the business of marijuana? And the young man who is the business of successful marijuana? Is he a drug dealer? No, he's not. Nowadays, there is regulation. There is regulation and since 2000...

Cannabis of all, no, Cannabis of general, THC, THC, CBD, everything.

I'm talking about drug dealers. Everything. You mean you're telling me that success is the drug dealer, fuck? Then you're benefiting the drug dealer.

I'm not benefiting the drug dealer.

No, no, no.

I'm not benefiting the drug dealer.

You're trying to make an excuse. And the guy who sells drugs, he's not successful? But he's a drug dealer, bro! And the guy who provides for legal means, is he a drug dealer? Where is there legal means here in Brazil?

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Canabidiol, bro! Gotinha! Gotinha! You're Gotinha! You're Gotinha! We're talking about smoking, fuck! administration There are a quiz a chamada is to know how much I'm a distilled you can do so in 10d key When I say fuzz I mean is to sample Vina Latoria. We'll set a song with my

Authorizado poncho proxima Or the show my queen myself

And my name is a shanty I'm Alexandre.

Wait a minute. Go, Alexandre.

Go. So, let's go. My name is Alexandre. You're known as Alexandre Fumaça.

Damn.

Very characteristic.

And so, I wanted to understand. When you said that smoking pot, that smoking pot is not successful. Right.

I don't know. Success is a subjective thing.

Subjective, subjective. I don't know, success is a subjective thing. I think, for example, that if you use an Apple phone, you'll see a guy who smoked a lot of marijuana.

Right.

Steve Jobs.

Right.

He smoked a lot of marijuana.

Did he smoke marijuana? No, he passed away. He had cancer. But didn't he have a lot of marijuana? Didn't he have a lot of marijuana?

Okay, let's go. No, it wasn't. There was cancer, but I think it was a success. It was anything but marijuana. No, cancer is not. No, no, cancer is good.

And cigarettes? Come on, come on, come on. And cigarettes? Come on, come on, come on.

Oh, so Bob Marley too, of course.

Fuck, Bob Marley.

You guys are with the guys of success, kind of fucked up. I think it's a lot like that, it's not about people smoking pot and not having the mentality to achieve success. He can do his job very well, have his own profession, support his family, and at night he can go to the news, give a relaxed sun and such, and that prevents him from having success. I'm talking about your success, you're a quadri- How long have you been smoking pot? I was one of the last in my generation, in my street, in my personal life, I started smoking when I was 19 You started smoking when you were 19? Yeah, I'm 52 52, so I can see that you have some cognitive problems already, you know?

No, you're already having some problems, you're not like this, you're going to formulate a sentence, and you can't give that cool formulation. While you are formulating the sentence, you keep laughing, you keep wandering. This is already a marijuana effect. But you are talking about success, you said, said, said, said, and I didn't see the success of the guy who smoked marijuana. What I'm trying to say to you, Mr. Bruno, is this. The young people who are going to the world of marijuana,

they are getting out of their way and are not having a chance to be successful because sometimes a young man who gets out of control in marijuana he gets into marijuana goes to heavier drugs and starts to...

and the very...

the very...

civilization it starts to leave the guy aside do you understand? I understand, but why is this thing... It's on, it's on, it's on, let's go

Fuck

Fuck Did you get it? Let's go! Damn! Damn!

I was afraid.

Who?

No, I wasn't.

It's my turn.

I'm...

Wait, let me set the time. The time is a little critical.

Right, I'm Physical, I'm a DJ.

What's your name? Physical.

Physical. Right. Who gave's your name? Physical Physical Right

Who gave you that name?

Me

Really?

No, it's my...

Nickname, nickname

Like a DJ

Physical

My name is Felipe

Felipe, let's go, let's go

Let's go

It's...

You...

The theme is...

Success There is no success pot

For example, yeah Khalifa, Mike Tyson,

But he's not even successful for anyone.

Wait, wait, let me talk.

He's talking to Elon Musk smoking marijuana.

Including Mano Brown, who you cursed, said something bad about him.

I'll explain.

No, no, I understand why you cursed. But he's a successful person.

Even more successful than you. Successful for what? No, no, I'm just saying one thing to you. First, I'm going to tell you, I have no desire to be successful. I want, I don't have, I don't have zero, zero, zero, I don't have zero success. Who follows me, who follows me and why? Because they like my statements, they like what I say.

It starts there. I'm not here for success. I'm here to debate with you, to make an intelligent debate. Second, you came to say that Bob Marley was a successful guy, right? Okay, he was successful for whom? For whom was he successful? For the most part. No, no, no. So, okay, he's a success for what? What I'm trying to say is that success, you guys don't understand, I think the marijuana

is kind of in the air here, you don't understand. Success is like this, it's the guy, it's not the success of Bobby Marley, Steve Jobs, that's not it. The success I'm trying to tell you is the young man who is getting into marijuana is turning his life upside down. Because, as I told you, you are living in the world of Bob. You are like that marijuana addict from the University of Bop's movie,

that you are in your apartment in the South Zone, and you think the world is colorful. Dude, it's not. Let me explain to you. There are a lot of young people in the outskirts. Wait a minute. There are a lot of... people in the suburbs, wait a minute, I'm talking about success, there are a lot of young people in the suburbs who were supposed to be brilliant, but the marijuana, the drugs, ended up with his opportunity.

That's the success I'm talking about. So you're telling me I'm not from the South Zone, I'm not a playboy, I'm from Brazil, right?

From Brazil, right. Nowadays I live in Vila Aurora. Okay, okay, but what I'm trying to say to you is that you...

You talked about family, a Snoop Dogg is married at the same time you have a cop

Ok, but a Snoop Dogg is 1 in 1 million, my brother I'm just repeating to you, the success I'm talking about is not Snoop Dogg But I'm talking about young people, my brother I'm talking about young people, my brother. I'm talking about young people, young people, young people. The problem is this, marijuana, drugs, they take away the opportunity of the young people to be successful. That's what I'm trying to say.

Who?

So, how many are here? How many are here? 26? And the millions that are in the favela today? And the millions that are destroying families? It's not because of marijuana. Oh, it's not because of marijuana? I I I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. You're talking too much! 34 seconds for each one, go! No, I want to say this... 34 seconds, wait, let me give you time. Because you talk too much!

First, I agree, really, marijuana is not a young thing, and that's why we need legalization, because the dealer doesn't ask for identity, the dealer is not concerned with quality control, and there's no weed dealer waiting to legalize to smoke. Every weed dealer who wants to smoke knows exactly where to buy it, it's affordable, it's even cheap. You said that legalizing it will be expensive.

It depends on the type of legalization we do. No, let me finish. Because if we do a legalization that is really expensive, it won't work, because we don't want to legalize just to smoke. We already smoke. We want to legalize so that people in the suburbs, in the favelas, suffering from prohibition and not from the substance,

because prohibition kills more than the substance. There is no overdose of marijuana. There are people dying from stray bullets. So we want to legalize precisely so that these young people have more difficulty in having access, because then the drug dealer doesn't ask for an identity.

If you go to the drugstore, you will have to present your identity your document for this crowd to have quality control and age control even because really marijuana is not a thing for young people, okay, it's over, I can

talk now, let's go guys, she's talking here that she wants to legalize it so that it gets more expensive and the young man has no money to buy it No, you said it. You said it.

Didn't you?

She said she wants it to be cheaper? She said it's cheaper? You said it's cheaper? I didn't pay attention to what she said because it's fucking annoying. Fucking annoying.

Let's go. She said she wants to legalize marijuana and that it will be cheaper So what did you say, damn it, damn it, man, damn it, man, I'm against it, I'm against it,ization of marijuana because it will destroy young people, okay? It will destroy young people because if someone takes over to sell marijuana, they will throw taxes on it, it will get more expensive, and the guy will buy from whom?

From the traffic, which will sell cheaper and with poor quality, okay? Done, next.

Fourth statement is, marijuana user does not like to work. Come on. the who work, who have companies, many people here, we have a doctor here who smokes too, so I think this statement is totally wrong. What I wanted was for people, society in general, to have the same hatred of marijuana as they have for drinking. The same hatred you have for marijuana, I wanted people to have for drinking. Because I know men, family fathers, who raped their children, alcoholics, who led a generalized chaos

that goes from generation to generation of traumas, of violence because of alcohol. I have a friend whose boyfriend killed a young woman after leaving the club drunk. He simply went abroad and didn't pay for the crime he committed. So all this problematization on top of marijuana. I don't smoke marijuana, that's why I came here to talk to you now. Because you hit this key a lot, that you're a marijuana user, etc.

I don't smoke marijuana, but I respect those who smoke much more than those who use alcohol and kill and assault people.

That's cool.

That's it. You said... The statement is as follows, marijuana users don't like to work. The problem is that the young guy, when he gets into the marijuana business, he loses his will to work. Why? Wait a minute, Nabriza, for God's sake. He loses his will to work because he is discriminated against when he gets a job. When he gets a job, he is discriminated against.

Who says there is no discrimination is wrong. There is discrimination, yes. There is discrimination. There are many businessmen who don't hire drug users. And, like, I don't hate marijuana. I'm a guy who... I'm a policeman, so I'm against anything that's legal. Water and oil don't mix.

The day marijuana is legalized, I won't get involved in marijuana anymore you know? because it's legalized now you talked about the drink the drink is really harmful it's extremely harmful I agree with you

it's harmful to a lot of people but here's the thing in my experience as a cop if I arrested a thousand guys who committed a crime drugged, marijuana, any other type of drug a thousand drug dealers, drug, marijuana, any other drug, a thousand people I caught drugged,

one was drunk. A drunk guy is harmful to his family. Why? He comes home, beats his wife, kills his wife, rapes his children. He drives a car, steals and kills. He will drink, drive, kill people with cars.

So, I mean, he is harmful. For society. No, society. Now, I'll say it like this, a crime of theft, theft, slavery, hardly...

It has nothing to do with marijuana.

Hardly... Ah, okay. You defend marijuana. But, look, wait a minute. I defend people of good, who do good and want to smoke and work. But then you go again, you who are in your little apartment, in Bob's world. I'm not talking about the good people who are using marijuana.

I'm talking about the young man who lives in the outskirts and is getting rid of himself because of marijuana. That's what I'm talking about. Now, the guy who goes to his college, buys his marijuana. Oh, I buy legalized, I don't know where come from the outskirts? ok, but you come from the outskirts do you use marijuana?

no, no

exchange exchange I went, you didn't?

you didn't go?

I also want to go all the time

he can't stand me

Ana Brisa can't stand anything anymore

I can't stand it anymore I I can't take it anymore. I can't take it anymore.

I'll tell you. Are you dating?

8 years.

Then you tell me that your boyfriend has a place in heaven reserved.

What the fuck? Look, look.

The old drug dealer said he doesn't know anyone who smokes a joint and steals a bank. Fuck, man. holy shit, man

He's been here for a long time, he knows a lot of potheads

It's drugs, it's drugs Wait, let me... Oh fuck, let's go

Hey, how are you? Let's go It's...

The thing is, potheads don't like to work

Right

I started smoking pot when I was very young

This is not a good thing, but after I started smoking, I started to have a broader vision for other things Hallucinations

No, it's a matter of you want...

Hallucinations So, for you to smoke, you won't be taking it from your parents' house, you won't sell the gas like you said, you'll need to work And I started working very early because I wanted to buy my stuff,, well, the marijuana helped me a lot to have a vision to work and today I have my business, I have my business, I work with drinks, I work on the beach, under the sun so, every day there, working, under 40 degrees and I love what I do, today I'm not there because I took a day off to come here

but it was for me to be working, but I'm going back today and I'm going to get my things ready for tomorrow And I love what I do because it's my business I work with my business, with Drinks And I'm a motoboy too, I do some freelance as a motoboy And it's a class that works a lot And I'm going to take a percentage, but more than 50% smokes pot

I'm on it, I'm on it.

Let's go, ok. Your name, sorry?

Alex.

Alex, I'm not talking about you, my brother. You are a successful guy. You are a guy who chose to smoke pot. What I'm saying is this. For example, she was saying like this. Wait a minute, wait a minute, let me tell you something. I'm talking about the guy who sells gas in his house, who sells appliances in his house,

who kills his mother, kills his grandfather to get the money from the retirement home to buy drugs. It's this guy I'm talking about. If you've been consuming drugs for a long time and today you're working to keep your addiction, you're feeding the crime, but you are not stealing to be able to... So there is already a point for you. But indirectly, indirectly you are contributing to the crime, you know?

Let me talk to a guy here. Come on, my brother.

Good afternoon, my name is Herron, I'm 31 years old, I'm a law student, but I'm also a former detainee, and nowadays I work, don't like to work Because I wake up every day at 6.30am to get my bike and go to the university where I study I walk almost 10km to go and 10km to come back I come back home at 10pm And during this time I study in the morning, I go to my internship in the afternoon, and study again at night, because the subjects are quite big and expressive, so I don't agree because of that.

I'm a person who uses marijuana, now much less, but anyway, I don't agree because of that. Okay, fine. That's what I'm telling you, I'm going to talk again here, I've already said it several times, I'm going to say it again. Eron, you're a guy who's there, studying, consuming your marijuana there, you said you consume everything, but what I'm talking about success, folks, is that the was a young man who was surrounded by success Just like you, you left the prison system, I don't believe in resocialization, ok? I don't believe in resocialization, you are a case apart You are a case apart

When I say I don't believe in resocialization, I mean it 100%, not 100% You are a case apart, congratulations to you, who doesn't want to go to crime anymore, I give you my credits, okay? But the re-socialization, you who mess with that, it's extremely difficult, because of the prison system.

But let's get to the point. So what happens? The guy I'm talking about, the marijuana, it takes the young man from the path to success Because the young man with a weak mind, he goes there to smoke and he gets discouraged He goes to the crime, he wants to feed his addiction, but he doesn't want to feed it

What takes the person from success is basic education, the lack of job, let's play. I'm a politician. So, look, the politics that exist in Brazil... A policy of death, an unequal policy, and that's why there's a crime, a constant crime, that doesn't stop growing. Just look at the school evasion,

just look at other issues...

But why is there a school evasion? Because the school is a... No, because the guys are using drugs, fuck. Because they're using drugs.

What?

Because they're using drugs. What's up? How are you? Fine. Wait a minute, I'm going to... Go ahead.

Nice to meet you, how are you?

I'm Vinicius Gabriel.

Vinicius Gabriel.

And I'm just a 22-year-old common young man.

Speak closer, speak closer.

I'm just a 22-year-old common young man.

Right.

Do you use marijuana?

I use marijuana.

Right.

But... I admit that it's something I think about, at least, right? It's coming from me. I think your allegation is totally wrong, mainly because I'm a person who has a confirmed borderline. I've been through several problems in my life, and also some traces of hyperactivity. One of the things that makes me most depressed in life

is the fact of being alone or standing still. From the moment I realize that I'm in one of these scenarios I automatically see myself stuck in a cycle that can really end my life Like so many other times And I admit that from the moment I did my majority I started studying and working, my life improved by 1000% I discovered through this a reason to continue my life

and also to find a goal in life and be happy feed this desire to simply help my grandfather and the people around me also simply increase my knowledge range

reach new goals and especially my dream so I came straight here

no, no I'm trying, I'm going with your reasoning here. Let's go.

Calm down, calm down. I'll get there. I came straight here from a freelancer. Telling me that I don't like to work is a very wrong allegation, even because this last week I only did freelance for one company and every day I went, most of the people I talked to were also potters and were also there to be a person who was working and giving his.

No, it's good, brother. But I'll say it again, man. I'm trying to understand, you guys don't understand. I'm trying to do it. If you're a guy who's working, man, congratulations to you. If you want to smoke your weed, unfortunately you're feeding traffic, you are feeding the organized crime indirectly, even if you don't want to, but you are feeding the organized crime, you know? But if you work, ok, cool, but what I'm trying to say to you is that not all marijuana users have your discernment, you know? Many marijuana users, they want to steal things at home to sell and use marijuana. This is not a success for me. Yes, yes. Beauty? Yeah.

Change.

Rafael, send the bullet. Pleasure, my name is Rafael, I'm 24 years old.

I work with a ship loader.

Good. And...

Tell the truth, Sergeant.

Before I started smoking marijuana, I was already lazy to the house.

Oh, damn it!

That's it.

It's crazy. Oh man, it's relative, like, let's suppose... It depends on the day, you know? It depends on the day. foreign foreign So, and everyone... and you said the point is that young people don't work. Right.

Is everyone who was born this size?

No.

No.

Come on.

Everyone has already been young.

Hasn't passed through a point yet? What's your name? Rafael. Rafael, you're a loader, right? Loader? Loader?

Loader, man. Is it a loader? Loader. I'm not sure. It's a load, right? It's a load. No, it's a load. It's one thing, and the guy in the door is another. Let's do it like this. What you said, ok, man. You just told me that you don't like to work.

So what does it associate? But it's not because I'm a pothead.

You can't work.

No, no, no. No, no, of course! A weed dealer is a productive guy, a weed dealer is a good guy. No, before smoking, you... Sergeant, let me finish. Let me finish my assassination now. Again, I'll say this, my brother. It's not you, man. My problem is the young man who's in the outskirts, who doesn't have... It's not like you said, I got fat, I'll talk to my friend if he has a back up for me.

The problem is not this guy, the problem is the guy who will kill, will suddenly take the bag from a woman to feed the fuck out of his addiction, you know? It's not right, Sergeant, but I'll talk to you.

Changed, changed.

It's us, you know.

Thanks, brother, thanks.

Yeah, man, now what?

The mass, Everton Carvalho, I'm a lawyer, I'm 33 years old and I'm a businessman. I have about 30 employees who work for me in 5 companies. I'm going to start my explanation by asking you, Sergeant, because the agenda here is if the pothead likes to work or not. You said here that many employers don't hire weed workers.

Yes, I agree.

Do you agree with this statement? I agree.

If I were in your company, I wouldn't admit it.

Perfect. You also said that you are a legalist, that you respect the laws. There is a law, Sergeant, called 9.029 of 95, which is a law created to avoid discriminatory behavior. The first article of this legislation says that the employer is prohibited from practicing any discriminatory act that impedes the income in the work relationship.

And then I'll ask you a question, Sergeant. Do you need to decide if you respect the law or only the law you want. Because if there is this legislation, which is the law 9029 of 95, in your first article, which says that you can't have this discriminatory behavior, I suggest that you, as a legal expert, that you give us the name of these companies that you know,

so that we can file a complaint with the Ministry of Labor and Employment.

Just like you don't screw around where you buy marijuana, I won't screw around with a businessman who doesn't want to hire. Let's start there. Second, the company is mine. I pay, the company is mine. I made the company. So I hire whoever I want. Right?

The law is there, okay. What I'm trying to say to say is that there is a prejudice. I'm not saying that there is an affirmation. There is a prejudice. So, for example, if I had a company, the company is mine, I'm the manager, I hire whoever I want. If I have 100 employees and I want 50 men and 50 women,

it will be 50 men and 50 women. If I want 100 men, it will be 100 men. Of those 100 men, if I find out that there is someone who is using drugs, for sure he will kick me out. Wait a minute, let me finish. So the businessman in Brazil is already sacrificed, man.

Because most people will tell the businessman, if you have a job today, it's because of the businessman. The gas company doesn't agree, but okay. If you have a job today, it's because of the businessman. So I'm going to tell you, if I have a company, I hire whoever I want. Now I'm not going to come to you, if you come to an interview with me, and say you smoke pot, I'm not going to hire you, because that's illegal. And I'm not going to go against the law. But if I, from your resume, find out that you smoke pot,

I, because the company is mine, I'm not hiring you.

And it's against the law. Do you agree that it's still against the law?

It's against the law. It's against the law. But the company is mine.

Right.

The company is mine, I hire you whenever I want. because you're a weed dealer. That's against the law. Wait a minute, let me finish. No, let me finish. You've already finished too much.

Let me ask you something. You say you're a Christian, right? You say you're a Christian.

I didn't say that, but I am.

You say you're a Christian.

I didn't say that, but I am. I am too. I am too. We are believers. Right. without evidence, are you a believer or an atheist? Just like you create a completely disrespectful diagnosis to a man who sits here, old, and says he has some kind of problem, you just confessed that you are an enthusiast of the disobedience of legal legislation.

So, within the legal order,

either you decide if you are a criminal or a policeman.

No, wait a little bit.

There is no crime or big crime.

Wait a little bit.

My brother, the fact that I have a company, I'm not going to hire you because you're a weeder, I'm going against the law, now if I look at you and say, look at your social networks and say, this guy is a weeder, I'm not going to hire him, I'm not out of the law, It's my discretionary. It's my discretionary. Thank God, Mr. Orixás, you're not a judge.

Because if you were a judge, we would be screwed with this argument.

If I were a janitor, I would be screwed. If I were a janitor and I dropped this in my hand, I would be screwed. Next. Wait, wait, wait. Change the subject. Change the subject. The last theme, me against 26 potters, is if you buy pot, you are responsible for the situation in Rio de Janeiro.

She hasn't left yet.

You got the idea, right? Yes.

Come closer to the mic. I'll start.

Hi, I'm Julia. I'm not a weed addict.

I don't use weed.

Thank God.

But I'm in favor of legalization. Good. Because, in fact, when you ban marijuana, you give space and you encourage the monopoly of the PCC, the Red Command and all criminal factions. You end up selecting people, for example, the police has an ostensive approach to combat the use of marijuana, and then only those who have the capacity to go against this state restriction will enter this business. So you end up selecting more dangerous people and more psychopaths

who don't care about committing crimes, because selling marijuana itself is not a crime. It's a crime without a victim. The person is buying because they want to. No, no, no, dear. Let me talk to you. Now, if you sell and commit crimes, for example, murder, extortion, theft, territorial disputes. These are crimes.

But the substance trade itself is not a crime.

Let me explain.

Because everyone is doing it voluntarily.

Let me explain. Drug trafficking is classified as a crime. Drug trafficking is penalized for 4 to 12 years in prison. The trafficking, you sell. If the guy, if the person plants in the house, like there are a lot of people who said they planted,

if you plant for his consumption, ok. Now, if he planted, and the boy there who said he had no money to buy, he got to his house and said, look, I'll get you one. The law says sell, donate, lend, it's in the law. So it's a crime. is LA LA CLA Lady came no

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Amara That's easy, right? Thank God it wasn't the one from the breeze. Let's go!

Well...

Wait, let's go. I forgot your name, bro. Caio.

Caio, let's go. I thought it was very good that we finished on this topic, because you spent a lot of time talking about this young man, supposedly unsuccessful.

Right.

Demonstrating a certain concern, supposedly, with this young man from the favela. Exactly. and that marijuana would take away his success. We're talking about this Rio de Janeiro issue, but it applies to all territories, where there's trafficking, power vacuum. In social sciences, we say that there is no power vacuum. So, wherever there's a vacuum of power, that power will be occupied. We have in the territory of Rio de Janeiro, for example,

we have several of these young people that you mentioned, that they don't have access to basic sanitation, they don't have access to basic sanitation, they don't have access to good education, they live under roofs, they live on top of tiles, with cardboard walls and things like that, they don't have access to education, they don't have an address, they don't have a CEP, so is it smoking a cigarette that takes their success away? I don't think so. I think there's a lot involved for...

There's a lot involved for leadership, I'll finish quickly. So, when we talk about this question, who is responsible for the Rio issue? The whole society. Prohibitionism is responsible for the Rio issue. The absence of the state, which left this territory abandoned for countless years until a powerful person arrived, as she well mentioned, a person who has a gun, who has strength, and they occupy this space.

So, if we want these young people to be successful, much more than worrying if they are smoking a cigarette or not, I think we should worry if they have access to education, if they have basic sanitation, if they have a roof over a roof over their heads, mental health, and so on.

I fully agree with you, my brother. But I'll tell you one thing, one thing doesn't justify another, you know? There are many people who were born in a community and that's not why they get into crime. I have several police friends who worked with me, my friends who were born in a community that couldn't spread their skin on the street because they were at risk and they didn't go to the crime.

So it's a choice. The criminal is not a victim of society. But okay, I agree with you on the territory. The territory was donated to the crime in Rio de Janeiro. Donated. Since the Brizola government. Brizola government. But look. Wait a minute. He was donated to the crime there in Rio de Janeiro donated since the government

Brizola the government brizola little the government brizola came and he gave autonomy to the crime so that it can take a certain region today The fight in the river is not for drug trafficking the fight for the river is for territory So what happened the traffic took the place and what happened? He went and showed the young man, you can ride with a nice gold chain, you can have an imported car, you can have a motorcycle. And the young man who will work, at first he will not have it.

So you mean, the criminal is not a victim of society, he is a result of society. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go. now said that I would commit a crime too, so it's kind of complicated. What crime did I say I would commit? No, no, no, no, no, I didn't commit a crime. The crime is when you discriminate the person. I discriminated the person, but I didn't tell her that she was being discriminated. I discriminated because the company is mine. The company is mine.

The company is mine and I didn't commit a crime. I don't commit a crime.

Ok, ok.

I don't commit a crime.

You already confessed on podcast, but it's ok.

No, it's ok.

It's ok.

Hitting a tramp is not a crime. Let's go. Ok. The operation was not successful because four police officers died, otherwise it was a full success. Let's go.

All right. Rio de Janeiro, that operation, it aimed to combat the expansion of the territory. No, no, no. It aimed to fulfill the prison mandate and hinder criminal organizations.

All right.

Explain to me, as the staff has already said, that the purchase of marijuana represents 8% of drug trafficking. Right, right. You know that the second biggest drug trafficking is arms trafficking, right? Yes. You know, right?

So, it already breaks the argument a little bit. The biggest drug apprehensions that we have in Brazil are not from marijuana, they are from cocaine. Right. So, that also breaks it. Which is a drug, of course, it's a drug How do I, who buy, like many people here said that they have a health insurance

I plant in my house too What do we influence this in drug trafficking in Rio de Janeiro?

It doesn't make sense The guy who sells marijuana, he doesn't sell just marijuana He sells marijuana, crack, the person goes there and chooses, it's a market It's a market, is it a lie? Who said it's a lie? As far as I know, the dealer is a dealer. He puts a lot of drugs there to sell. So what happens? He goes there and the person chooses what they want to buy.

So the 8% you're talking about... Have you already transformed these 8% into values? It's more than 10 billion. These 8%. These 8% are 8% of marijuana 8% It will give a nice money

This money is used for what? To buy the gun That is there I saw people saying that people died there It was not a dealer Just because he was in the woods 4 am with a gun

He is a dealer?

No, ok? Next

It's repeated, please leave it!

But I arrived first!

Good afternoon, sergeant!

Did you smoke weed, bro?

It seems! You said that in this way of success, man!

It's a success for me!

Let's go, let's go! Tell your name! My name is Guilherme, I'm 25 years old, I'm from the East Zone, Sapopemba

And I disagree a lot, many statements, especially so...

It's your right, it's your right, it's your right

What I understand as... That we benefit, that we have some guilt about what is happening in Rio de Janeiro I don't blame the potheads, I put it all the Why? Because there was a teacher, there was a person who could advise That's what's missing, we don't need to beat up homeless people, kill drug dealers, arrest them That's not it, what we have to do is help these people, you know? Put a path for them, put a direction for them

So your name is Guilherme, right?

Guilherme

Guilherme, let me tell you, many who are there, many who... If you get to Rio de Janeiro and you pick up that kid and say I'm gonna get you out of here, I'm gonna give you a job, you're gonna work as a motorbike driver A fair job, a fair job A job with a market value, you can't pay a job worth 10 thousand reais for a motorbike No, no, 10 thousand, but for example, talking to a boy every day is not fair I know, but the thing is, the subject is not social justice

Yes, but that's what we're debating

I'm telling you this, if you go there to that kid who's there, smoking and earns R$1,000 a day and you offer him a job will he want it? He won't, brother!

If you give him a chance, he'll have a good life

doing this, I'm sure of it I know this, brother A worker doesn't have a good life, my brother The worker faces a bad public transport He faces a lot of bullshits

Exactly, exactly

You understand?

But it's all because of who?

It's not the potato plant's fault

It's not the potato plant's fault It's ok, my brother I know you don't want to have... You as a potato plant You don't want to take the blame exclusively from the marijuana dealer. I'm saying that you contribute to the crime.

Got it?

Now I'm going. Sergeant, let's go.

Wait a minute. Go, play. Who finishes...

Gisele Pontes.

Let's go.

Many times here in this debate, you said that you are a legationist. And that you are against because it's criminalized. But if it's criminalized, you are in favor. In this, you are a stick sent by the state. You are a stick sent by the state.

And then I tell you the following, if today it is forbidden, you are there. If tomorrow it is released, okay. And then, who actually finances the crime, who is responsible for what is happening, for what happened in Rio de Janeiro, is the state. One thing is to make yourself a victim of society. Another thing is to break a person's knee and compete with them to run with you.

One thing is to be a victim of society. Because a good bandit is a dead bandit, right? Okay, take it to the Senate, Congress, Plenary, the House. Go see who's a bandit there. There are few left. Because if a go see who is a bandit there, there are few left. Because if in fact the good bandit is the dead bandit, unfortunately your brothers in the institution

that are on this front line, our brothers too, are there, losing their lives, because police officers lose their lives, drug dealers lose their lives, you know why? Because you are poor, because I don't know a rich policeman, you understand? Because it's a civil war between poor people versus poor people, you killing each other, both left the favela, and the government wins. Who finances the crime and who finances what's happening in Rio de Janeiro

is the state.

Can I say it now?

No, stay there now! No, stay there, fuck! Look, first. Okay, first, first. Wait a minute... Ok, she didn't want to hear, I'll say it here.

First, first... I'm a legalist guy. First, I'm a legalist guy. So, from the moment... From the moment that I... You're a good candidate for PSOL.

I, from the moment... From the moment... From the moment... Be mine! can you drop the soul you apart you don't mean to a party to move in I'm the president of the state, I work for the state, the state pays my salary, the state pays my salary, so I have to follow the rules of the state. And I'm a legalist guy, I'm obliged to follow the laws. From the moment you say that driving a car is illegal, I will arrest everyone who is driving a car. From the moment you say that driving a car is legal,

I don't see that as an illegal act anymore. So I'm not going to fight. I'm paid to fight crimes.

Perfect. In all your counter-argumentation, you admitted that the state is the one financing it.

Applause for the convention.

Next. Who finances is the state. Which mandate of the convention? Next!

Well, let's go back to the subject.

Let's go, man! The subject is Rio de Janeiro. The subject is Rio de Janeiro. Why is the situation in Rio de Janeiro a calamity? I explain. From my point of view, it's libertarian. The thing is this.

There is a demand for drugs. Here, the people are on trial. This demand, regardless of what the reason is, if the guy wants to smoke because he wants to go crazy, if it's medicinal, it exists. And from the moment you prohibit this demand to be met, who will meet it will be the crime. Because by definition, if the demand is met, it is a crime, who will meet it is a criminal. And in this you give room for all this violence problem that is happening in Rio de Janeiro. So the guy who is smoking drugs, who is buying drugs,

he is not responsible. The responsible is the state that prohibits.

Do you think it's wrong?

Dude, the state... I already told you, I'll repeat again. The state prohibits because it's not worried about you, my brother.

No, I agree with that.

It's not worried about you. He's worried about the health system, he's worried about security. Wait a minute, let me finish. He's worried about this.

About collecting taxes.

No, no, ok.

And maintaining power.

Ok, I can't go against this.

You can, I'm your neighbor as a citizen.

Ok, but here's the thing, I'm telling you, what happens, the state doesn't release because of that. Now, even... Wait a minute. Even the state is releasing the use of marijuana. Ok, the use of marijuana is released. The marijuana will continue to finance the crime. Wait a minute. Calm down. Breathe.

I didn't say anything.

Calm down, calm down. You were going to say. Calm down. Breathe. It will continue to command... It will continue to... Eh... Eh... Eh... Fin finance the crime. But will it decrease? It will decrease. So it's good. Wait a minute, calm down. Are you in favor?

Let's intensify the crime. Wait a minute, it will continue to finance the crime. And here what we are trying to say, my brother, is the following. Prohibition is not that the state prohibits because it does not want you to smoke pot. It prohibits you because you are going to buy pot from the dealer who's selling it. Now, wait a minute, from the moment he releases it, and you...

Can I say it too?

No, but it's my turn, fuck! From the moment you release the pot and you go to the pharmacy to buy it, you're generating taxes, right? Wait a minute, let me give you one more piece of information, I'll give you one I can't speak. But it's my turn, you already said it. Every country that released drugs is going through a crisis.

No, that's not true, man. Let's go. Until now, until now...

Wait a little bit.

Until now, we've only had a useful discussion. Ah, releasing marijuana would be better, what is worse. I am in favor because it is my right. You are in favor because you are a weed smoker.

No, I don't smoke.

You don't smoke?

No.

But you are in favor.

I am in favor because I am the magnanimous being of my own.

You want to smoke.

I have the want to smoke.

I don't want to smoke.

You're only going to smoke when you're legalized. No, I'm not going to smoke. One more that's going to come in. I want the individual to have the power to decide which substances he allows or does not allow to enter the body. While it's forbidden. That's his right. It's wrong to debate. It's wrong to forbid. You talk to the deputies, not to me. So, but that's exactly the debate we're having.

As long as it's forbidden, as long as it's forbidden, we'll be debating this shit. It's illegal. It's illegal. Thank God, you only have 50 seconds, bro.

Thank God. Thank God. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! Look, look, look! Guys, notice the damage marijuana does to the brain of the person.

What is your justification for the reduced argumentative capacity? Let's go then. Okay, who smokes marijuana is guilty, now you tell me the following. If we legalized, if we changed the mouth of smoke, the weapons legalized it, if we changed the guns, the guns for CNPJ, signed wallets, and the press for flowers... What? What is this nonsense? Are you going to interrupt me again?

Go there, go there. What were we going to do? I don't know the numbers, but how many millions were spent on an operation like this? And now it's back. The dealers are are back, the C.V. is sending again. This money could have been spent on what? On health...

And marijuana.

He doesn't let me speak. It's easy, right?

It's easy.

If we stopped spending the money we spend with repression and used this money to invest in health, education, public safety, we would still profit money from taxes. So we would be able to change the reality of those people in the favela much more than going in there and shooting, when the next day everything is the same.

So it's a matter of cause and effect. Got it?

Wait a little bit.

Wait a little bit. Let's go!

Clap, clap, boom! Look! No, it's over. Guys, I'll give my... I can answer here, right? So, guys, here's the thing. The money that was spent on the Rio de Janeiro operation

was really an expressive sum. I didn't want the government to spend money on the containment of crime in any state. Because crime is not only in Rio de Janeiro. If you analyze all the states in the country, some less, others more, all are being destroyed by organized crime. Which is not organized crime, they are terrorists.

They are terrorists. I know that Ana Brisa does not agree, but they are terrorists. So the money that was spent there could have been spent on something better, but unfortunately the government has to do these operations, the government has to try to retake the territory. So what I regret is that these operations are not being constant. They should have died 125, and the next day, if 125 is invested against the police,

that more than 125 die. You say that the police there are murderers. 19 individuals, 19 individuals, I'm there for you to see, I'm not lying, I'm showing you, 19 individuals entered a house, surrendered a woman,

and had 15 rifles, 19 individuals, 15 rifles inside a house. The police surrounded, the police surrounded, surrounded the house, the police surrounded the house, and the 19 individuals surrendered and were arrested. Right?

If, if, there are some people who say, The police surrounded the house and the 19 people surrendered and were arrested. Right?

If... There are some people who say, Ah, but the woman was filming, that's why she surrendered. If the police weren't legalists, even the woman who was filming would have been killed. The police are legalists. Now, from the moment...

Wait a minute, wait a minute, guys. From the moment that at 4 am, inside a forest, the police inside a forest... What is the worker doing at 4 am, with camouflaged clothes, armed with a rifle, inside the forest? So, for me, it died a little. It died a little there.

It could have died a lot more. And that... And that the police do... Your noise for me is music That the police go there and kill more drug dealers While the drug dealer is dying While the drug dealer is dying

And the good people are inside the house For me it's great Good drug dealer is a dead drug dealer, fuck Resisted! Resisted, resisted, resisted, it's a pain in the ass! And didn't die, and didn't die the drug dealer there, because drug dealer is all soft ass, drug dealer is good to smoke marijuana. Now to get a rifle and face the police, you don't have the guts, because you're soft-ass!

That's it, man.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you, you make this instructor very happy. I want to thank everyone who is here, the 26 potters who are here. Look, how many don't smoke pot? How many don't smoke? How many? How many? 4, 5.

I want to thank the 21 potters and the 5 who are here, that are in favor of marijuana, are sympathizers of marijuana, that are still marijuana users, they are all marijuana users, all of them! So I want to thank you, leave a like, subscribe to the channel, during the week this episode goes up, I hope it goes up, because what we have of marijuana users, is an impressive. There are many potheads that follow me and say,

Sergeant, I'm a pothead, but I love you. So we're together, right? So we're together, right? You can come, it's over.