15 ਸਾਲ ਦੀ 35 ਸਾਲ ਦੇ ਨੂੰ ਵਿਆਹੀ || Kirna Massi Podcast With Ravideep Khiva
The Pradhan would ask me, how did you get married?
The Pradhan of the Gurdwara?
Yes, the Pradhan of the Gurdwara. When we were married for the first time, it was a little later, we were sitting in the Atar Singhala Gurdwara for 6-7 years. I never said anything to anyone. I just kept my opinions in front of feel, whether it's good or bad.
The Pradhan tried to speak ill of me. I told my family, whenever I sit in the presence of God, he touches me with his hands. It was touching. I could feel it. It was touching. Then one day, he started calling me badana.
I was wearing a turban. I was wearing a turban. He still touched my hands. He touched my hands. He called me badana. I came back and told him. I was in a state of confusion. I was in a state of confusion.
I was in a state of confusion. I was in a state of confusion. I was in a state of confusion. I was in a, holding my hand. I felt dizzy, I couldn't see anything.
I was standing there, holding my hand.
I was standing there, holding my hand. I was standing there, holding my hand. I was standing there and when I saw the whole thing, I started to dance. I said, eat your food. I will eat it on time. I said, go and eat it yourself. I will eat it. When I get down, feed me and go.
I said, my bus is coming, our bus is coming. After that, some bus will come at 11 or 12. I will come back now. I told him to hide me. I told him that my bus was coming, and that my bus was coming. He said that the bus would come at 11 or 12. I told him that I would come back at that time. And, my house is 80 kilometers away.
Yes.
And,
when he refused, I sat down and shook his mother-in-law's hand. I said, Mother, what would you call your mother-in-law? I said, you don't let me go, you don't pay me rent, you don't eat. What should I do now?
My mother-in-law said, let's go and talk to him. She said, go son, eat. Let him go, you go with him. The first thing I told him him to come with me. I won't go anywhere alone. He came and asked me,
Sukhdev, why don't you go with me? Your brother-in-law is in trouble. He has lost everything. You have the right to go. He was very angry. He came to know.
He came to know, I was so scared that I was about to die. I was so scared that I was about to die. I was so scared that I was about to die. I was so scared that I was about to die. I was so scared that I was about to die. I was so scared that I was about to die. I was so scared that I was about able to eat properly. I was told to read the holy book of Shukhmani Sahib. I was told to drink the water from the well. I was told to recite the holy book.
I was lying down. The Sardar ji was reciting the holy book. I was listening to the recitation. I was suddenly sleepy. I was sleeping. My mother had gone to the other side to give me a prayer.
When I fell asleep, my wife finished her prayers and started to beat me.
When I woke up, I opened my eyes and saw what had happened. They beat me so badly. I was ashamed because my mother was pregnant. I was ashamed because my mother was pregnant. I was ashamed because my mother was pregnant. I was ashamed mouse's mother
I eat a lot of wheat bread When the time comes for the mother I get hungry I will eat one bread in water I will eat half a spoon of salt in water I will eat bread
I will eat bread and water I will eat my food. I will eat my food. I will eat my food. I will eat my food. I will eat my food. I will eat my food. I will eat my food.
I will eat my food. I will eat my food. In today's society, the life of an artist is something else on the screen. And in real life, it is something else. But these days, it is not just about artists. It is applicable to you and me too. It is the era of social media. We show something different and hide something else.
In the life of showing, we can have a laugh. the I will share with you all the things that I feel inside me. I will share all the things that I feel inside me. I will share all the things that I feel inside me. If you want to know, you can come to my channel. But today's story will be about Kirna Maasi. You can watch her on the channel. You see her films on the channels all the time.
You see her on Instagram and on the reels. She sometimes laughs in her life and sometimes cries. But in real life, how much pain and suffering she has gone through, how much struggle she has gone through.
How did Kirna Maasi become? And this character came in front of you. And what is she doing in real life? How are you doing? Where did you start your life? We will talk about all that. I have Kirana Massey with me in the studio.
Welcome, Kirana Massey.
Hello, son. Welcome to everyone.
I am glad to see you and hear you. First, I will talk about Kirana Massey. First, I will talk about your real life. Kirana Kaur. What is your real name? Where do you belong?
My name is Kiranpal Kaur. My village is Pekke, near Lehre Gagge. My sister's name is Saur like a village, Bernala district. But in life, I thought a lot of things were different. But it was different.
How?
Like we say, there are many ways to get out of loneliness. But my way, slowly slowly, I got out of it. Till today. My life was like this. I was going to get water, but I got water only gradually. My life was like this. I had a house and a job.
I thought I could not pay the rent.
But I found a boy. He is old and handicapped. He was brought here to be buried. I wanted him not to drink because my father used to drink. My father was a home guard. I was always with my mother. I was always fighting with my mother. I thought that if I get married, I will marry the boy who doesn't drink.
I was very lucky to who was my friend. She was very nice. But till today, whenever I have a friend, they always try to make me feel good. The first time my cousin made me feel good, she got me married to her aunt's son.
I got married at a very young age. I was 15 years old when I got married. The day I got married, he was 35 years old.
When you were 15 years old?
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Get started freeHe was 35 years old, my husband. I didn't know about all this. He didn't drink alcohol that he was a Sikh. I went to my Guru's house. It was the 10th day of the month. I went and prayed to him.
I prayed that my Guru should be with me. I have heard a lot about Guru Ram. I have been a widow for three years. I have been a widow for three years. I have been a widow for three years. I have been a widow for three years. I have been a widow for three years. I have been a big betrayal to me.
First he told me that he won't go to Hindi Ghat. He had an accident. And in six months, he left the house. He broke his back. He was stuck in the back. I said, okay, I won't say anything because I was young.
I didn't have a big plan. I got married. Everything was fine. When I got married, my family told me that I won't be able to
get married. Okay. I said, what do you mean? They said, how much land do you have? Okay. I was born in your village, and I got married in my village. If I wear a turban or a turban today, I will not be able to face the people. I will not be able to face them.
People don't want to accept that. I will get married again. I will get married again. I have heard that two marriages have been made. I was worried about what would happen if they left me. I didn't think about it. I just kept thinking about it.
I was six months pregnant, and I was eight months pregnant. How much land did you get? I got five acres of land. After 8 years, I got 2 acres of land. It was a part of my house. Now, we have 3 acres of land and 2 vehicles.
We were in poverty. I used to sew clothes for people. I learned how to sew from a Sikh. I learned how to make a pot and how to make bags. I didn't think about anything else. I was just thinking about how to earn money.
I was thinking about how to start a family. I was thinking of getting a house. I had nothing else in my mind. And God heard my prayers. Then Guru Ram Das blessed me with a son. I had a son. I was very happy.
My master blessed me with a son. What else could I have wished for? I had a son. He else could I have wanted? My son was a poor man. Before him, I had two mothers. They were my sisters. I thought of something else, and it became something else.
How?
We didn't have any money. Many old women tell me, I have a major operation. I was worried that we didn't have money. They said that it would cost 10,000 or 20,000. We didn't have 500 rupees.
We had to pay the rent. We had to pay three quintals of our own. We had to pay the rent. I thought that it was good for me. I brought all the grains and gave it to my husband. I said, God forbid, if this time comes, you will get money.
The child I am going to give birth to, I will do it before I give birth to him. What will I take from if I was born? I would have told them to deposit the money. I would have gone with them. We had sold 2 of them. We had 3 and a half or 3 and a half.
I would have told them to deposit the money in their own account. And then the case was filed. It cost us only 5,700 rupees.
It was a normal case. It me only Rs. 500-700.
It was a normal case. It was all thanks to Guru Ram Das Ji. I didn't have to pay anything. I thought it was good that I got my feet on the ground. Slowly, slowly, I became a man of three days. I started having bad dreams.
I started have nightmares. I used to have nightmares. I used to have nightmares. You should read the prayers. When you read the prayers of Sukhmani Sahib, you should give me the water to drink. You should read the prayers of Sukhmani Sahib.
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Get started freeI am a sister. The Sardar Ji reads the prayers. I listen to the story. I would sit down and the Sardarji would read the holy book. I would listen to it. I would suddenly feel sleepy. I would go to sleep and I would think that my mother has gone to get me to do the japa. When I would feel sleepy, my wife would finish the reading of the holy book and start the prayer.
After the prayer, I would start to feel dizzy. Why? I woke up and opened my eyes. What happened? They cut my throat. I was ashamed because my mother was pregnant.
In the house? Yes. I thought it was my fault. I was sleeping. I was like a dog. I was sleeping and I sorry, I'm sorry. I'll go to the dogs and bark. You're sleeping, I'm here.
I'm sorry, I made a mistake. I fell asleep, I didn't even notice. And that's when I started to sing. Before that, I had a lot of love. The whole village says that no one had love like you.
If we had half a meal, we would eat half of it. We didn't have this situation in the beginning. We were living in a very good situation in poverty. And after that, we started to get beaten up. We started to get beaten up. Sometimes they would break our arms, beat us. Sometimes they would break my legs, beat me up,
sometimes they would break my head, sometimes my neck. I was beaten up all the time. Now, now, a lot of things have changed. A lot of people,
I have so many relatives, they told me to run away, divorce, you will be fine, people will not be fine, he would die of starvation. My husband also told me the same thing. He said that he would have a son when I was younger than him. He said that I would never let him marry anyone else.
I didn't know that, and now I regret it.
I told him, you don't have to give me an excuse, it's your wish.
It's okay. But we'll eat from time to time.
Your family members have started to abuse you, and beat you up. Do you know why?
I didn't know it until today. I just realized one thing. When my husband married me, I heard his mother-in-law say and my husband told me. I was newly married.
I asked him what he was saying. I heard it and I took it. He asked me if I would telling the truth or not. But she told me the truth. She said, she told me that she's a beautiful woman. She doesn't want to give her husband to her.
I thought that I should make her understand what my mother-in-law said. I don't want to say anything to her. Every mother is happy with her son's job. But every mother doesn't know that she has a son. She must have thought that he is handsome.
She must have thought that he is handsome. She must have thought that he is handsome. She must have thought that he is handsome. She must have thought that we had no excuse to tell him that we were married. If you tell him the truth, he won't run away. He didn't tell me that he would give me an excuse on my wedding day. He didn't know if he would give me an excuse or not. I judged him there.
I started to see a difference in him. He started to do things in my of my house were doing it. Now and then, our stuff is missing. But whenever I had to say something, I would be called a fool.
Why?
I don't know.
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Get started freeI was attracted to it.
I would say, what did I do? Tell me, what did I do wrong? Tell me what I did wrong. They used to laugh at me, and call me a fool. I used to ignore them. I used to say, they are just laughing. Then slowly, slowly,
when I started beating them, I never told my parents. I never went to his house and told him. I never told my brothers. Because I had a desire to settle down. I didn't have a desire, I... I didn't know that my house would be destroyed.
I was just like that, my son was getting angry. I would count the days, and would kiss my son. That my son with my fingers. I used to think that my son is growing up. I used to think that I am just eating here. I am just sitting here. I am thankful to Bhai Guru. My son is in my lap.
I used to do the household chores. My son has grown up. He has studied. He is watching everything. My son was also worried. My son was also in trouble. I was also seeing my son and listening to him. Many times I was told to run away. Many relatives told me to leave the house. Last time my brother found out.
He broke my head.
My brother was very angry.
He was angry and he wanted to know. I didn't have the courage to tell him. I was very scared. I was very scared. I was very scared. Hmm. I told him to eat on his own. I told him to eat on his own. I told him to eat on his own. I told him to eat on his own.
I told him to eat on his own. I told him to eat on his own. I told him to eat on his own. I have a meter of land. When I refused, I sat down and shook my mother-in-law's hand. I said, Mother, what should I call her? They wouldn't let me go, they wouldn't let me rent, they wouldn't let me eat. What should I do now?
My mother-in-law said, let's go and cut a few branches. She said, go and, have some food. Let him go, you go with him. The first thing I told him was, come with me, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere, I'm not happy there.
I'm not going anywhere. I said, you're not going home, I'm not going to anyone else's house. I'm not going to my uncle's house. I have a Punjabi house. I'm a daughter of a farmer. I'm not going.
Okay, fine. Then I went to Andik Mandi. I came back from Phulla. The lady of the house saw me. She was crying.
She was standing outside the house. She stopped me from going. She stopped me. I told her, you can't go with me. She said, how can I go? We'll come. I knew she would agree.
She came and said, Sukhdev, you can't go with us. Your brother-in-law got a flat tire. He has lost everything. You have a right to go. I got a call from his house.
I came to know. I came to know. I know that the girl who was on the road, she was riding a motorcycle in the open. She was very angry. I mean, I arrived in a very bad condition.
I was told that even sitting with God is not that difficult. But he did it in anger. Then he went there and told me to stay there for two days. My brother was in a very bad condition. He was on the platform. He was on the platform.
He was in a very bad condition. I can't tell you how bad he was. I was on the platform, and I saw the platform's letter.
Everyone was shocked. I can't tell you how bad it was.
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Get started freeThey said, stay. We have to live together. I had three sons and daughters. They were young and they were also poor. I was afraid. I'm not afraid to say yes. I'm not afraid to say yes. I've done a lot of things to hide my feelings.
But I've never been able to hide my feelings. I told him to ask me. He said, you can leave it to me. He said it in a very harsh tone. He should have seen his own house. He should have seen his own house.
He should have seen his neighbors' houses. He should have seen my neighbors' houses. I told him to go away. Have you ever asked him why you are so angry? I have asked myself a lot of times. What is my fault?
I don't know. When someone beats me up, I feel like someone is standing behind me and telling me to beat him up. You said that your family was a Gursikh. They used to do Kirtan. If a drunkard beats you up, we can understand that it is a valid thing.
How can a Gursikh do such a thing?
I don't understand that. Is it true that your village people say that they beat you up? Yes, we do it as per our wish. Our sisters beat us up. We from our village who live in the village. We have a house on Kanne Gahan road. And our village is 2 km away from Kanne Gahan.
Now we have a Panchayat. And it's a very long story. We will talk about this after your marriage. Yes, after marriage. Your son is 27 years old now. My son is 27 years old now.
Yes, your family is very old now. You can say that a 27-year-old boy will be a boy after a year and a half. So, this is a problem.
And it is still going on.
Now, the problem is that the problem is over. My son told me to file a case. He told me to take the expenses. It has been 9 years.
He told me to take the expenses. I tied his son's hands and told him that my son is not well and I can't see him wearing your clothes. Your son told you? Yes, my son told me. I told him that if you get't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. If you do as your father says, you will also be able to sleep at home. Try to understand others. Let others understand you as well. But the way we sleep, we don't know what will happen. They had their own house.
But there was only one word, we will keep our house. You will stay where you want. If I say, Mistrylal, our house is in a bad condition. It is still in a bad condition. I told him, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family,
I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a poor family, I am from a girl who can be a slave. What's the use of my parents being poor and having no respect? They had respect, but they didn't give me money. But my husband has always trusted me.
He didn't trust you?
He didn't trust me. He's a singer. He's a singer who has become a key singer for Namari. I have a knife. I will kill him alive. I still have a knife. I never had a knife. But I had my mother under my control. I still have that habit.
I have a relative who lives with me. I have never opened anyone's things. I will keep the bag that my husband has and I will kill him alive.
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Get started freeBecause he can't go far. I keep my wallet in the bag that I keep at home. I don't open it because I don't want to lose it. I don't want to lose it. I wanted to keep it in my bag. But I don't open my wallet. If I ask for money, they don't give me.
If they give me, I have to take it. I don't know where they got it from. If they give, then they will take the responsibility of what they have brought. What other work do you have? Granthi. Now, I am a Gurdwara of Bab-e-Atman. Okay.
Now, you are in the Gurdwara.
Yes, now I am a Gurdwara.
The people from the village panchayat, like Granthi Singh, have they not taught you? Or have the people from your village, the panchayat members, have they not explained to you, or have the people of your village explained to you?
They have a routine, a rule, that if you don't explain to them, if you tell them, I am at my uncle's house, listen to me, they will cut you off, they won't listen to you. They won't listen to you, whether you are good or bad. Many relatives have forced me, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You need to use your brain. You need to use your brain to get your work done. Okay. If you still argue, they will say the same thing. That you need to use your brain.
When did you start working on your channels? On my channels, I was sitting and I was I was a janitor. I used to work on bags. I used to say, make a bag in a day or two and keep it as much as I wanted.
I used to watch films and come to different channels. I used to say that I can speak and she can speak too. I went to her sister's house. I told her that J will do the work. She said, yes, my village people do this work. I said, we will do it.
She said, will you get money? I said, yes. I told my sister, Rani's daughter. I told her that we will do the work we do this, will we get money? He didn't believe me. Everyone else answered.
The queen is also very famous.
Yes.
I told him that we will get money. He said, if not, then you tell me how much you can earn. He knew that you were money. I knew that. I knew that. I didn't know that my son told me that I can earn money. I also knew that I work for Jaggi TV.
I have a lot of work there. I am running a web series there. My son is a Sardar. He is educated. He has a good leader, educated and good worker. If he doesn't earn money, he is a useless fellow. If he earns money, he is a good worker.
I have seen many films of him. I have seen many good films of him. I have seen many channels and I have seen many comedies of him. I have tried to convince them to work with me. Our channel was also a monotitle. We made a channel called Sanja. My son made a channel for us.
And one of us was Sanja. We got the payment for Sanja. And after that, my son's channel was also running. He used to of the editing. He got a payment. I don't know what was the reason.
He told me the truth. He was not fighting with me. She blocked me. I told my son... Who blocked you? My aunt's daughter.
We never fought. We used to slap each other. we used to slap each other. We used to slap each other. We used to get angry. We were proud of each other. We were proud of ourselves.
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Get started freeI was very proud of her. I used to think that she was proud of me. You were very much in love with your sister. I was very much in love with her. I didn't love my own sister. I loved her sister a lot. I didn't love my own sister. I loved her a lot.
But when I lost my love for her, I felt that no one in the world was mine.
Why did you lose your love?
She took my channel and blocked me. I was poor. I thought I'd make a channel and earn some money. I wanted to build two rooms. I was the head of a junior group. I was the only one who subscribed to the mobile groups.
I worked very hard. Because I was the head of the group, everyone knew me.
I told everyone to be a Prime Minister.
I told everyone to subscribe to my channel. Everyone did not do it. I said that our work is going well. Everyone said that our work is going well.
When the village ran away, they stopped talking to me.
We have made a lot of differences.
I forgot about it.
I forgot about it and two days before I was going to the village, I was told that I have to talk to Suneeta Patal. I said, I don't know, I have to come. I don't know where to write the number or what to do. I have to come right now. She said, I will give you the number. I don't want to talk to youai. She said, I'll give you the number. I don't know how to talk to you.
You talk to her. I called her. She said, she spoke to me very nicely. She said, we want to meet her. I said, meet her whenever you want. We went.
She said, tell her where you came from. I said, okay. I called her. She said, no problem. We went and she also made a bet that we were going to Munak. She said, I have already made a deal. I met her and she was wearing a black dress.
She said, I will do whatever I want. You go and stay with Rani. She said, you don't have to work. We will show whatever I want. You can stay with Rani. She said, you don't have to work. We will show her your videos. She said, you don't have to work. I have worked for a long time.
I am only one work. I have a rule. I don't do any other work. I don't get late. I am so satisfied with my life. If someone calls me at 7,
I'll be there by 6.30. I can't go and sit for long. My wife comes home and says, Mata, you're on time. But no channel has ever told me where I am, if I'm there or not.
All channels are very kind. But no one from the channel has ever told me where I am, whether I have reached or not. All the channels are very kind. And when I told them to make her cry, I said, she is like that, she doesn't even get along with her sons. She lives with me. So I told her everything.
I said, I need her a lot. So they made her cry, made the video. She will start walking well. I thanked them. I really needed this. So I made videos and started making money. I was very thankful. After that I started making videos. I started making videos.
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Get started freeMy son taught me how to edit. After that, when I started making videos, I told my son to tell me daughter-in-law to tell her that if she is the main of my village, then she should take it. The main people who are with me and are in my command, I consider them as my main. I have never told anyone.
I have never drunk a glass of water from anyone. I have been hungry for 20 days, but I have never water from a glass. I was hungry for my wife, but I never ate from anyone's plate. I would say, two boxes of wheat and you can eat from my plate. Was the whole channel on his phone? Yes, it was on his phone. But if I wanted to, I could have done it.
But my son has a rule that he doesn't cheat anyone. What did he do? He said, if I don't do it, I can stop it. I can stop it. But no. I'll do it.
As I wish. Okay, after that, slowly, slowly, after two years, then Rani, I mean, I started calling her, she called me. I started getting addicted. You started talking. Yes, I started calling him on both the phones. He called me back. It started to get added.
You started talking.
Yes, I started talking. I started talking. We believe in Baba-e-Adk. Baba-e-Adk is a joke. He said, we won't make a difference. I saw it.
When did you first ask? Through the channel. He brought the channel. He didn't give us any money. I I will give you money. I am not a beggar. They say, we will insult him.
If you were honest, would you say anything?
I would not do that. I have a lot of respect for Guru Ram Das. I would give everything to him. Money, we say, is not a thing. Nothing is possible without money. But I say, we can earn money, but we can't earn relations. We can't earn relations.
If you had fought with him then, he would have kept talking to you.
He would have kept talking. Now that you have spoken to him, will he get angry? No, he won't get angry.
Okay.
I know he never gets angry. If he does, he calls me and asks why I'm saying this. I tell him that I'm not lying. He's the one who's angry. I'm not lying. He tells the truth. He's also done some trips.
But he didn't take my name. I took his channel's name. But he said he's his uncle's daughter. His daughter was born from this village. But she didn't say anything about Karanpal or Karanamasi. But I didn't agree.
Her channel was good. It was good. It was running. We got married there. We started working together. My village is 8 km from here.
I get late because of that. My village is very short. I started living here. I started living here. I went to a channel. We made a reel there.
We made a reel and lit a stick. My son made a stick for me. He made it from adi. I made adis and lit a match. My son made me a match too. He made me a match from an AD. Earlier I made matches from someone else. I used to hang them. But I used to laugh and say,
Mother, you should hang them. I used to say, yes, hang them.
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Get started freeYou tell me, you had a dispute with your family. They used to fight with you. Yes. You came in this line. Didn't you feel that you I am the president of Shidhupura. You are the president of the Kisan Union. Yes, Kisan Union. They have not told you anything about this?
No. Have they given you any remuneration?
No, no remuneration. But we have not been able to speak. When did you not be able to speak? Nine years ago.
Yes.
When we were not able to speak, I'm in court. I'm a Raji. I get paid. I'm not divorced.
You're in court.
Yes, I'm in court. I get paid.
Do you have a place to stay?
If I understand, I can stay.
How?
I thought about it and decided to stay. I was in this land. I had come here, but I thought I would do two things. Because my house is the old house of the oilman. I have a son who is 27 years old. I have a son who is 27-28 years old.
Did your son start working when he grew up?
He started working in the English speaking centre. There was a lockdown at that time. It didn't work out. Yes, it didn't work out. I told them that they earned 80-90 thousand rupees. We didn't have a single room.
We had a long room and we had to spend a lot. We had to pay for the expenses. We had to buy a lot of things. We had two rooms, one was bigger than the other. I had to sleep in one room, and I had to sleep in the other room. I was very sad about that. I lost everything.
You were living in a difficult situation. I have to take a breath. I am helpless. I can't stop breathing. I didn't know that I would be left with a longing. My father told me that we have got engaged for 10 acres. My son doesn't for 10 acres.
My son doesn't have 10 acres. I told my husband to arrange for 5 acres for the boy. We were going to leave and take our daughter.
Your father told you this?
My father told me. My husband says that I am the one who makes the house. My father came and told me that we have arranged for 10 acres.
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Get started freeHow many people were there in your husband's family? Three. And 9 acres of land. My father came to me and said, you know how many houses are being built in these villages?
Three.
Yes.
And nine villages. And when my father said that he will take me and go, I will get married somewhere else. My husband found out. My father had told me that he will take me and go. And my husband came to me before and sat next to me and cried. He said, if you run away, I'll take your father with me.
I said, where will you take my father? He said, he'll take him to the police station. I said, what? He said, he'll take matter? Bapu said, it's in the pot. I said, what? He said, we will take the whole of the stave and go. He said, Bapu, I can't take it out. Bapu, take it out.
My house is burning. I didn't say anything. I just said, don't cry. I don't go anywhere if I cry. He said, take him. I say, I'll take him. It's not up to him to come to me.
It's up to me. I got him married and came here. I didn't come here to beg. They say, take him. I sit here, but you don't cry. They used to come to my house and sell my beard.
But I understand you. I say, I would have been better if I had listened to my father. Today I cry. The ones who are naked in my presence, I say, God is with someone who will bring them. If he brings them, he will bring them with age.
Do you do anything? Do you get any relatives or relatives' relatives to come and tell you that they have a house?
Nothing.
If the land is cut,
if the girl has 10 acres, 5 acres, or even 4 acres, that is also cut. No one has a house, that is also cut. Life is not cut. This is not a woman's right. This is not a man's right.
A poor man has come to leave his wife and run away. No. When we were in the state, my family had Rs. 2.6 million in the bank. But they didn't let me stay there. Even now, he works. He still earns his salary.
He does the laundry, he feeds the cattle.
How much does he earn per month?
When we were in the state, he earned Rs. 7-8,000.
The rest is spent at home. When we were growing up, we had a salary of 7-8 thousand rupees.
The rest was spent on the house. If we had 10 thousand rupees a month, we could have paid for the three forts. We have land and we can pay for it. So, you don't think that there should be poverty in your house? There is no poverty. want to be poor. I have a poor mind. I don't have a good mind. I have a bad mentality.
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Get started freeHave you ever told your son or daughter-in-law to get married? I have told them many times. I have taken a lot of effort. I had a hard for them. When they found out about the Pradhan, they stopped working. I used to sell their clothes in the villages.
When they found out that I was a housewife, they sent their daughters to my village. They told me that my sister-in- father was a good worker. He was a tailor and a carpenter. We had a centre there. He told me everything.
He said that he was the one who was beaten up. He said that he was the one who fought. He was not a bad person. He said that if I had been here yesterday, I would have been killed. He said that he had a wife and he would have killed her. Why would he do that? I was at home. I was at home. I was at home. I was at home. I was at home.
I was at home. I was at home. I was at home. I was at home. I didn't know that they were giving proof that my husband was from my family. I came here to sell clothes for Atar Singh. I was going to a village to sell my wedding dress.
I had a younger son, he, from her aunt's village. I went to see her yesterday. I went and did all the work, I washed the clothes. I showed her to the Pradhan. That she is my wife. When he again spoke to her, he said,
you told me that she is a wife of a Bharat. She said, she doesn't want to leave him. I still tell her, even if she doesn't call you, whenever she has a problem, she calls me and blocks me. But I don't block her, I still have her number.
What's the problem in solving the problem? The problem is that she don't trust me. I don't get paid. They have made me cry. I don't want to be there. You are angry with them?
I am scared. Are you done with your anger? I am not happy with anyone. I will sit in front of them and fight. I won't let them talk about my anger with anyone. I sit in front of the person who is angry. I don't let them get in the way. I am afraid that when I sit on the bench,
I will be given a role. Who will give you a role? My husband. You are not old enough to have a role.
Your mother must have gone to get you.
I don't know.
But I have been sitting here since I was young. Then why do you have so many doubts?
Yes, but I told them that if they want to do it, they can do it. They said, what is the reason? I said, what is the reason? They can make me do one fort and make Basit the son. They won't make me do it. They can myself and a land for my son. I won't get it for myself, I will get it for my son.
For your son?
Yes, for my son. He is older than me, I can't take him with me. I will get it for my son. If I get a loan, I can get my son a job in a case. If both my sons try to get me a job. I can get a job in a case, I will get it son a case for his bread. Both my sons try to get me a case. I can get him a case for his bread. I was taught by a lawyer.
I used to trust my son. Now I don't trust my son.
Why?
He said in the panchayat that he doesn't forget. He doesn't need money. He doesn't eat his food.
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Get started freeDid you tell your mother this?
Yes, I told her in the panchayat. Now, I have told her in the panchayat three or four times. Now, the village head, Kaka, has sat with me and told me that I am from Punjab and I have some money with me. I am talking about 9-10 months. I told my husband, Satu, to get a carpenter.
He said he can't do it. He's blocked. He said, get a carpenter. I'll pay him. He said, get a house. He said, you talk about a house, I don't eat his food. You have taken your own money and your husband's. I am still ready to give him.
He can make his own, what is mine? I live in Sahar. I live on the channels everyday.
The reason for all this fight is that you don't eat your food. You don't want to eat food from your hands, you don't want to take money from your parents. I don't understand why this whole dispute is happening. You are a small family, you are not talking to each other. You are ready to give your money, you have earned everything.
I am still happy with what I have. I can get happiness from this. I can't leave my work. Because the work I left behind in my life, I brought a big center for sewing. I had three centers running. Sewing, knitting, and sewing.
They stopped my work. I started selling clothes when I started running. They stopped me. doing that. I started selling clothes when I started. I started making taans. I would buy cotton from Pani Path. I would sell it here and there.
Everyone knew that. And I would sell cotton and make taans.
You have worked hard from the start.
I have worked hard. The son of hard work is the one who has worked hard. He would buy milk from the cows of the Sakhas. He went to Noburi. I have to go to the village. I have to go to the village. I have to go to the village. I have to go to the village. I have to go to the village.
I have to go to the village. I have to go to the village. I was always in a hurry. I was always being stingy. I always thought that I should cut my poverty. I should get educated and get a job. I can't get a job without money. I should get a job and not get in debt.
I had this thought from the beginning. You tried to make a living for your son. Yes. You tried to make a son for yourself. Yes, I tried to make a son for myself. I don't eat mutton for my son. I left him. I don't want to get divorced.
Why would I do that?
I had a son. I had a son. When my son left me, I left him. I had a son. I would have left my home if my son hadn't called me. I would have stayed here if my son hadn't called me. If my son hadn't gone, I wouldn't have eaten properly.
I wouldn't have called him. What would I have done here?
You talk as if you have no more doubts in life. All the hard work you have put in has gone to waste.
Yes, it's all gone to waste. Sometimes I bow my head. If you believe me, I have told Guru Ram Das that I don't lie. I have given 12.
All of them are rotis. All of them together. They are dry rotis. We had a tub. 2-4 rotis. Sometimes 2, sometimes 4. I used to have a bucket of rice. I had a bucket of rice. I used to have two or four buckets. Sometimes two, sometimes four.
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Get started freeI used to have a bucket of rice. I used to have a bucket of rice. I used to have a bucket of rice. I had a bucket of rice. I had a bucket of rice. I had a bucket of rice. Gurdwara. He told me to come with him.
Son, the reason is that he doesn't want to go there.
Before I used to go with him, I used to ask him,
how did you get married? He is of this age, then there is Bajaj. Then he sat in Gurdwara. He sat with him. He was telling me, he is getting married here. I said, that is my village.
In that village, we know this name. If you ask me, one is Balkar, one one Satgur, everyone knows. The daughters of Lannas, we were from Biru Kelan, we were from Pathialas. I didn't bring all the dresses from there, I brought them after marriage. But poverty makes us do everything. My husband had told me about it.
That's why we had to go to the Gurudwara. Who was in charge? So, we had to go to the Gurudwara. Who used to ask questions? The Pradhan. The Pradhan was the manager. Or it was my turn. I used to speak to everyone. The old ladies used to sit and everyone used to ask.
The Pradhan used to ask, how did you get married to a woman?
The Pradhan of the Gurudwara.
The Pradhan of the Gurdwara. When we were in our prime, we were in Atar Singhala. We had been there for 6-7 years. I never said anything to anyone. I just said what I felt, whether it was good or bad.
The head tried to speak ill of me. I told my family, whenever I sit in the presence of God, he touches me with his hands. He touches me with his hands, I feel it, it's wrong. They told me to die. I didn't want to go. I wanted to go to the garden and wash my face. Then one day they tied me up with a rope.
I was still holding the cowl. I was still holding the cowl. They still tied me up with a rope. I told him that I had kept the cow on the bed. He still touched my hand. To put the cow's milk. I came back and told him. I came and put the cow's milk on the table. When I told him that it doesn't work.
I told him that it doesn't work. I told him that it doesn't work. I told him that it doesn't work. I told him that to speak to anyone. One day, I had a fever. I was very sick. I felt dizzy. I could not move.
I had a long shoulder. I used to live in a room. I went to the bathroom. I stood with my shoulder raised. I felt dizzy. I felt dizzy and he came and... When I was in a bad condition,
I was not ready yet, I had a letter. I stood there, I raised my hand. I felt dizzy, he was beating me. He was the same age as I was. He was the same age as me. He was beating me bit taller than me.
When he touched my cheek, I felt a little bit shy. I told him that my neighbor has found out that I am a bit short. When I stood up and started to look good, he came and started hitting me.
I asked him, Is this a problem, Pradhan? I spoke loudly. He said, Shut up! Shut up! I said, Shut up! I asked him if he was talking to me. I spoke in a loud voice. He said, shut up, shut up. I kept quiet.
I kept quiet for a while. I didn't go there. I went back there.
I was sitting inside.
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Get started freeI was going to the pag. I was sitting there. I was sitting there. I was sitting there. I was with them like a slave. When they told me that I shouldn't be doing this job,
I came out of the house. And because of you. I said, this house is so nice. They said, you should go home. I said, I'm lying. They said, yes, you're lying.
I broke the nail in the pot. My relationship with him was broken. I will not say that he is a bad person. I will see for myself. I told him so many times that I will beat him. I told others.
I was told in his village that if we stand together, you slap him. I was told by the village head that I should be the first to be slapped.
By the village head?
Yes, the village head. I was afraid of my son. My son was studying in Talbandi. He was studying in Sabha and Goramarjada. I thought that if I said something bad son about this, he will be angry. But that made a big difference to us.
Then I told my son to be careful. I told him that it's okay to stay in my house. But I couldn't stay. I don't know if he understood or not, but my son told me this. He said, let's go to my home.
We were in a different village, and to open our tuition, the boy brought us home. Before he could give us the course. But Guru Ramdas, my eye is so bad, it doesn't let me see. And he brought us home before he could give us the course. And after same day, he took me to the police station. And after that, he took me to court. And I had to go to the court.
I filed a case. And the case was solved in a month and a half. It cost me 5000 rupees. And I stayed in that house for three months. And then, when the decision was made in the village, I got a house.
Now, I have been given half of the land.
You have been given a house in the court.
Yes, but now my family in the panchayat says that I will give you a pound. And I will not give you a share. Then I told them, give me a third share. What right do you have now? Now, I am not a widow. They ask me why I work't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't tell anyone. You tell him, son, I'll quit my job.
We'll do it together.
No, I'm not like that. When I came to the channel, I told him that I got a call from a certain channel. If you don't do anything, then I'll do it. He says, I don't say, do something, don't do something, but I'm not going anywhere to earn money and give it to my son. I don't say that. I don't say that.
I don't say that he is my earning source.
He is not my source. What do you think, you have worked so hard, you have worked day and night, you have sold clothes, you have lived in Gurukuls,
you have made money there. There are also taans in Gurukuls, where you were? In the Gurukuls, there are also taans, like Atar Singhal. If you ask anyone there, they will listen. You can tell the truth here, if someone is telling the truth or lying. We can tell when we listen. Here, people are lying, here they are beating up elders.
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Get started freeYes, Mata.
We can tell. I don't listen to anyone's interviews. I haven't gone to her either. She said this here, she said that here. But I didn't change my mind.
Whatever happened, you said it.
I will say the same. What do you want now?
What will you pray to God for?
I will pray to God for one thing. That Guru Ram Das, not only does he bless me, but he also puts a roof over my head. Secondly, I have so much money, I can earn and eat.
I don't want to die one day. I don't want to die.
I don't want to cry. I have the support of two people.
The first one is Jaildar.
He is from Kamane.
He came to the team.
To work for us.
After a few days, we got a change.
Our team was formed.
We had a team of 8-10 people.
You were the queen of the team. Yes, I had gone to her shoot. And my mother-in-law, I had gone to her house in Samarnand, in the city. And my mother-in-law took me there. She said that my mother was going to have an operation, so I took her there.
And when I found out, I found out slowly, because I could tell from the way he spoke. I stayed in the Changaliyaal village. When I stayed there, I had a cushion. I had to carry his stuff. Bed, AC, cooler.
It was Rani's. I had to carry it on my shoulders. Bed, AC, Aero, fridge. I had to carry money from there. Rs. 71,000 rupees. Yes. And I was afraid that if I stayed in that house,
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Get started freeI would have to go to the place where I was supposed to go. Your mother's operation hasn't happened yet. You would have run away if the operation had happened. I told my father that I would also bear the cost of the operation. I would tell him where I needed to go. But he started talking more and more.
Then I started getting mentally stressed. I told him where I needed him. But he started talking more and more.
Then I started getting mental tension. When that boy called me at night, he asked me how I was, did you eat? I said I just came. He started talking a lot to me. He asked me if I was okay.
I said yes, I am okay. He asked, Maasi, are you okay? I said, yes, I'm okay. He said, how is your father? I started crying. He said, why are you crying? I said, he's the chairman. Go and bring Maasi.
He said, Maasi, I won't be like that. I said, son, I won't be like that. I lied. I have my siblings. I said, son, I won't be like that. I lied. I have my brothers and sisters.
I was alone in my house. I was alone with my husband. They rented the house. Yes, we rented it. The whole team. But we were two people.
Me and Rani. I spent the night there and the next day they took me. To their village. I was not allowed to go anywhere. I was there to get my belongings. They were also shooting. When I told them about my money,
I thought they would take it. The boy told me to go home and get my belongings. He said, give me your money and I will give you my belongings. I got my belongings and left put it in the canter. I left a message in the canter and came to the bus station. I am still in the bus station.
I told him, Bed, AC, Fridge, and Aero. All your things are with me. Give me my money and take my luggage. He gave me a raft.
To the police station. He called the police station and got a phone call. When they asked him, he said, the goods were stolen, nothing was stolen. The goods are with me. They asked him, what is it? He said, the goods are with me.
I have a book of my own. I told him, if you need anything, I am available. I told him to give me time. My brother will come here. He is my uncle's son. When I called him, he said,
nothing to worry. He just sat there. My brother's friend came. J.P. came from Jail. There was a Kirt, a Tari. He sat with us and cleaned. He took 100 rupees from me for 35,000 and gave me 35,000.
Then everyone told me that when he took a son, you leave him. But I have a son. He says that if you need me, I will give you. I say that if you need me, I will give you. We talk to each other. We still talk on the phone.
We have a long distance relationship. We have a little distance. When we call someone a mother or a son, when the relationship breaks, it does make a difference.
It does.
But I felt that no one should understand me. Now, the second person. The first person, who didn't keep me at his house for four months. After that, we became relatives. First, we were YouTubers. Then, I proposed his brother-in-law.
We got married. I didn't want to get my brother's marriage done. I did everything for us. Both of us. After we got married, we did that work. We still do that work.
But now I don't work for other channels. I have given some time for my own channel. I have my own channel, Karnamasi. I have worked for JP Jail on two channels. Now, the second boy. He is from Mowda.
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Get started freeSikandar. He is not like the other ones. I am from Mowda, Sikandar. He came to me and said, I am going to give you a house, a house of your own. I said, I don't want to give you a house. He said, why? Why don't you want to give me a house?
I have thought about it many times in my mind. But I have thought about it and I have realized it. When I die, I don't have to kill anyone. I don't need anything from anyone. If someone needs money, he can give me crores.
This money is the wealth of everyone in the world. Everyone needs money from everyone. Everyone is connected to all the needs.
Yes. When I told him the story, he said, I don't have anyone to take care of me. He left me alone. I told him, take my phone. I kept it for 10 days.
If someone comes to you, tell them I am going to do it. I haven't come home for 10 days. He said, I am a mother. I have everything. I have a son, a husband, a brother, a mother. I have everything. But the biggest difference is that my mother and my sister are both in the same house. Like we say, if someone talks about studying, like I used to cry for my family, that my family doesn't let me do this, or don't give me money,
or take me to the cloth store. My sister would make a pair of teddy bears and tell my family that I am a thief. My family would tell me the same things. Didn't you know about this?
That someone would come and tell you?
I knew that your sister would tell me.
Then you would keep talking about it. I had the habit of being told by my sister. So you were very strict with her?
I never used to be strict with her. I have nothing to do with her. Even today, she wants to write a poem about me. But my poem is not about Lili Shatrigal. I have no respect for her.
Do you think that all the people who were against you have left the gathering? Do you think that all the people who went against you went against you?
All of them. If I needed someone to fight for me, I would ask my sister to come. If I needed to talk to someone, I would ask her to come. If I needed to talk to someone in the court, I would ask her to come. I had four wives, my sister's. I have one marriage.
I was sitting there. I was insulted so much by my family. It was an insult. They said, let him die. Don't do this. They didn't say that.
They said, you should run away. They will give you time pass. You don't have any relatives. You should talk to him. He is my elder brother-in-law. He is responsible of the house.
You should take care of the tribe. She would turn around and say, she is already married. She was going to tell someone, that they won't let you die. I told her, she is my electricity.
I consulted her, that you should give her electricity. Both the brothers-in-law consulted her. They decided to give her electricity. She didn't advise me to use electricity. They said, why do you need electricity? I had to take it.
They said, if you want to use it, you can use it. I had to take care of the house. You think it was a conspiracy? Yes, it is still the same.
To make you crazy? To make you a fool?
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Get started freeMy sons told me in my village. We lived in Atar Singhal. I'm a poori. I'm still poor. They make you crazy. Yes. They make you a poori.
My sons told me in my village. We lived in Atar Singhal.
My son said that his mother died because of his friend's grandfather.
When he went there, he found out about it. When people asked him, how is your mother? He said, my mother is fine. She is fine now. He said, my mother is fine. She said, how can my mother be sick? She said, she lost her mind.
She said, my mother is a taan. I said, my mother is a taan, go to the gurdwara and see.
I want to ask you something. So many things have happened in your life and after that, when people start calling you crazy how much does a person feel? because it is a sad thing if you are good to me, people will know that you are sick
I have tried to be a fool by hitting my head on the shoulder many times.
You tried to come to your house too.
A lot.
You tried to settle down. The Pradhan told you about the things that people did to you.
He told me everything.
You struggled to get your income and to get your clothes.
Even today, I see my old her in Singhal Gay Jo I used to tell her She was poor I used to tell her to come with me I will give her a daily salary
I used to give her money She used to go to the water and a piece of cotton. She also told me, that Babaji is dishonest. I didn't believe anyone. That my husband is dishonest.
I said, no. He can tell me everything. She said, no. Your husband will make you cry. You will have a child. I was convinced that she is my mother. That's why I told him to cry, you will have a baby. He said, if you consider me your mother,
then I will tell you, I will not tell you. I said, I will consider you my mother. He said, deposit 10 rupees. I deposited 10 rupees and it became 10,000. When we were both in the same state, we didn't have any money, we had 10,000 rupees.
I thought my son's mind would not be disturbed. He is young and has no money. I told him that I have deposited 10,000 rupees in your account. How old was your son? 23 years old. It is a lot of money to earn at this age.
Many children have are earning. But I have only one son. I have no one else. I gave him 10,000 rupees and I got his accounts filled. Whenever I had money, I used to get his accounts filled. He used to tell me that he got 5,000 rupees filled.
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Get started freeHe used to tell me that he-10,000 from him. He used to say that he used to get Rs. 2000 and I used to get Rs. 5000. He used to say that he used to get Rs. 2000 and I used to get Rs. 5000. He used to say that he used to get Rs. 2000 and I used to get Rs. 5000. I used to think that I will get money from him. He used to get money from me. What work did you do? I used to do and sell them.
I would save the money and give the rest of the money to my family. I would ask my son to come here. I would tell him, son, if you need anything, you can get it from the ATM. I was very strict with him. I would tell him, I can't go, I can't go to the bank, I can't withdraw money and he used to call me a fool when I asked him to give me 5 rupees I used to say I haven't asked anyone for money
I have it with you and the rest, I didn't have a good mentality
So you didn't invest in the bank?
No, I still don't invest I still ask my friends, who I can ask I still ask them to tell me the truth or tell me about Rani or anyone else. But Rani doesn't care about money.
You fought with Rani once.
We fought many times. But if I tell the truth, it is the truth. If she lies, it is her choice. Did you get back together with Rani? Yes, but we don't work together. I have told her to call him.
He has told me as well. But I don't do the work. I tell them, Guru Ram Das, I won't let anyone do the work. Because my time is spent on these things, which were left to be discussed. My family and my ration, water,
even today, knowledge, and speech, I and my family still have a ration shop near the garbage dumps. My family members say that my family is being taken away by the traders. My brother-in-law is alive, the panchayat is alive. All the people who have been told to take the money to our homes, all of them are alive. All of them are alive and they know. They told me that people from our village, from our village, from our village, they all know about it.
Some people died, they were our witnesses, who used to come to our village. They were young, they were old, they are not here anymore. I used to eat rats' feces and the food from the river. When they used to come to me, I used to get a lot of money. I used to eat a meal I have to. I get hungry when I have to. I get hungry when I have to.
I can't eat one roti in water. I can't eat one roti in water. I can't even eat half a spoon of salt in water. I can't even eat half a spoon of salt in water. I can't even eat half a spoon of salt in water. I can't even eat half of the night and half of the day.
I would eat the next day at 12.00 pm. I didn't have any bread with me. I didn't have flour either. I used to eat only the flour. If someone would ask me to eat roti or bheji, I would say, don't ask me.
I eat the roti made with corn. I eat it in my house. Guru Ram Das has given me respect. I say, Malka, there is no one like you. You have brought me to the right path. I have my left hand.
You have kept me here. You have given me this work. I have this prayer. I just want to get work and do it. I don't want to get a job and earn money. I don't want to work for anyone. If I borrow 2 rupees from someone, I will return it back to them.
I don't want to go anywhere. I don't want to die. I don't want to take a loan. My family wants to take a huge debt to my family. I have to be their wife and mother. I had to pay a huge debt. I am paying that debt with a smile.
I have to pay the debt. I am paying that debt. But I have to say that I would not get married. He is young and old. If I run away, I thought of another way. If my father says that I will marry someone else,
I will take my son to the city. If I leave him, my uncle will take him to the city. I told my father that I would get married and have two kids. I told him that if he was alive, he would not have let me go to the police station. He would have taken me with him. All this happened after my father died. I told my father that I would get married and have two kids.
I told him that if he was alive, he would not have let me go to the police station. I couldn't cry. My father was not there to take me with him. All this happened after my father died. I told my father, Bapu, your sons will bring my son to the stairs. No, I can't see him crying. I will cry on my own. There are many things that are still left. It's a big letter.
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Get started freeThe time is too much. If you have any other questions for our friends, do ask. We will ask all these questions in the next podcast. But, listening to one thing, my soul is filled with joy. When he said that he eats only a little, he did so much work that his life is now peaceful.
But he doesn't have hope. He spent all his days with his son. The truth is that his son can tell how much he has changed. But according to him, he didn't make any profit from spending all his days with his son. He didn't make any. His family also didn't get any.
Although, he was a Granthi in a Gurudwara. He can tell the truth about himself. But according to him, his life and his family's life was very difficult. Meaning, he left the support that he had been given. Then, no one would have been in so much pain. Today, he is earning so much money and still yearning for his heart. He is spending such difficult days. so Listening to such stories, I feel that we are very happy in life. With our family, with our children, with our parents.
This is a great happiness in life. The rest is the cost of money. So, how did you like the podcast? Do tell us in the comments. Subscribe to the channel. Thank you. I am your own Ravi Deep.
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