ALASAN TERDALAM ARIE KRITING KUAT DIFITNAH ITU INDAH - NGOBROL DI WA EPS .34

I'm going to be doing a lot of work on this. the the We've been sitting here for a few minutes before this guest start to take off his jacket. We didn't realize there's someone here. He's so close to the wall. He's so close. He's wearing green. He's so cool. He's wearing green.

He's wearing green. He's wearing green.

He's wearing green. He's wearing green. Before this guest star opens his jacket, we didn't realize there was someone here.

Because he's stuck to the wall.

I feel like I'm so cool.

I turned out to be an invisible man.

Ari Kritik, guys. Respect. We actually invited Ari because we wanted to complain. Yesterday we bought an AK47 through Mamat. But the problem was that it was an old item.

We were cheated.

Yes.

Cheating. Cheating.

Yes.

Cheating.

Mamat, you have to give all of it to Mamat.

Give all of it.

Because what we know is that Ari... I don't know where you're standing today, but I can still see you're neutral between Mamat and my idol, my idol, Abdul Asyad. Who until now, his schedule is still tight, he said.

To confront Mamat's speech.

So, here's the thing. Where are you standing? I'm tired of them both. With all the bad things they do out there. I try... Anyway, they're my siblings. I try to be there as a witness for them.

I try to show them the true path of kindness. Because it's hard. One is... What is it? The devil king of crime. I'm not going to say anything bad about him Because it's hard to be a King of the Devil And a Dajjal with his slanderous slander Dajjal with slanderous slander means Abdur Abdur

I mean, Mamat is a frontal person He's like a backstabber. Like, this is me with all the damage he did to the earth. Now, this Abdul,

does he look like a holy person?

For me, he's a holy person. Even though, when I came here and saw his Instagram,

he's actually a Dajjal.

That's why I try to be there as a witness for them. And don't go too far. As a brother, it's sad to see you being trusted by God with your voice. Use it for good things. One, you slander each other, you make a mess on earth. The other, you want to get rid of this country. One is slander, one is like... wanting to take off the country's flag.

Both of them seem to be in trouble. And they don't see you as a person who can be... A brother. A brother and a comrade. A comrade. Even though you were originally from...

still playing black science, you...

You changed. You changed to a better area. And you're still playing the black magic trick.

You're changing. You're changing to a better person.

And you're trying to be a different person.

That's it.

I'm just trying to be myself. You're trying to be yourself.

But we're more interested in talking about...

the character of Arik Riting who I've noticed lately is like

close to children

Wisdom

I've been there

I'm trying to give a good example so that the people of the East don't see these two people I'm also wise

So that it's fair

The name of the child is similar to mine. My son's name is Saka. Saka. Your son's name is Naka. What does Naka mean? Naka is...

Actually, his full name is Vinaka. In Wakatobi language, it means iron or metal. Something strong. But it turns out that he has a nickname in Fiji, if I'm not mistaken. In the island country.

Because I feel that, in terms of language, we have a similarity. It turns out that it has a meaning in Fiji, if I'm not mistaken. It means thank you. So, in my opinion, it's a name that has a strong culture. And from the two meanings, both are good. But I call him Naka.

Because calling him Bina doesn't seem appropriate.

Yes, true.

Naka is also...

Yes, true.

Naka.

Yes, true.

But from the words that come out of his mouth, it's like a sweet guy. From the words, especially when I watched one of the videos you posted Like sweet guys, sweet guys. That's the language. Especially when I watched one of your videos, when you were pretending to be sad. How he entertained you.

Who taught you that?

Again, it's because of the father's mother.

This is a back story. All these three people here, they all have good image.

How can we believe this?

I'm amazed.

I mean, with the language of that kid. I mean, he's only 3-4 years old, right? Only 3-4 years old. So, people say that kids are examples of their parents. Right. Their way of learning is not dictated, not taught.

But they are examples. So, if we want our kids to do something in our head, we have to set an example. I think it's easy. If the husband sets an example of tenderness to his wife, it should be easy. So the child can see that.

Especially if our wife is fierce.

That's how it to get in.

Husband is afraid of wife, right?

I think if a man's son is soft, his father must be afraid of his wife.

Is that so?

It could be. That's the assumption.

But...

from the way he talks, not only soft, but his English is so good. He must have learned it from his father He's been in the UK for a long time

Ukraine

He's now starting to learn English So... Don't slander me

This is a compliment.

It's too high. The expectation is too high. So, Naka has started to go to preschool. We're looking for a school. You're such a fool.

The kid is being asked to map. Map. The kid was asked to map.

Map, map.

The kid was asked to map the people who work at night.

Weird conversations.

Mark where the computer is. And when you bring it home, you don't know where to use it.

You're too sophisticated.

Yes.

You can sell it. What's the point?

Map, school.

School, which one is good? Then we thought, Indah and I are not English speakers, right? Not the English speakers. Indah is a maid.

My maid is Repti Ayunatas, right?

Yes.

Actually, I want to laugh, but I feel like crying.

It means that the kid is soft.

Crazy.

So, if your kid is soft, your husband will be afraid of his wife?

For example,

sometimes people say, Ari is so soft when he talks to Indah. In my heart, I'm like, sure, try to be tough with him. If you're being tough,

you're screwed. Because it's not... I said, sure, try it. He was so tense. When he got back to his senses, he was like, jeeper.

It's not an effort. It's a real thing. I wanted to be firm with him, but I couldn't.

You couldn't.

I couldn't.

But my son is a firm man. He's not soft when he talks. He's so firm. Because he's after his father? I'm not that weak. I'm quite strong. Because you're copying your dad? No, I'm just scared of my wife. I'm scared she'll copy her mom.

She's copying her mom.

I think your dad is too weak.

She's copying her mom.

You're weak too. Don't say that.

Don't say that.

We're looking for schools. Because we can't speak English at home. So we told our kids to go to school in English-speaking places. Because they learn something that they can't learn at home. If it's more than that, we can do it at home. Knowledge, calculations, reading,

we can still teach them slowly. But English is... Hard. Yeah, hard. Besides Bon Jovi's song, I don't know English.

He's smiling.

He can still smile.

He's the one.

You give a bad...

He can still do it. He can't do it. So you chose one of the schools. I went to an English school. But it was really weird.

Why?

Because he was speaking English at school. But he was only about 2 months old. So he wasn't as fluent in English. But when he came home from school, his English spirit was really strong. So when I picked him up, he always tried to speak English to me.

When he spoke English, he would call me dad. When he spoke English, he would call me daddy.

He would really try to make me feel comfortable.

Daddy, where is mama? Where is mama? Oh, mama in home. Then he would really want to speak English to me. Daddy, we don't eat. in home So, he was like... He still spoke English, but he changed the diction to Indonesian. And I was like, I feel like we want you to be a language specialist,

and you become a company.

Become a company.

Like talking to a company. The school is like a Pitung. But as parents, we want our kids to have better facilities. Of course. Better education than our time. For sure.

But in the end, with the limitations we have... ...we both admit that... ...our English is limited as parents. But we have to face a different situation now. You come as a parent. For example, you meet the teacher.

How do you talk to her?

It's so hard.

How do you...

I feel this card too.

I swear.

Every time I miss her, I'm nervous.

I'm nervous.

Do you speak Indonesian?

Usually, in school, the teacher must speak English.

And they reflect. For example, she teacher must speak English. No, they reflect.

For example, he's sending Naga. Usually, they send a kid. Naga. Then, I've learned. The first question, I've learned. How is your day?

But that's it. I don't care what the answer is.

I don't understand.

That's it. The answer is, I don't understand it, I don't care. I already asked. The answer is just something like that. Hey Naka, how's your day? He answered happily. This and that. Maybe because we're speaking in English,

it means like, I understand what you're saying. Daddy, Naka today... Oh, he speaks Pashto.

Oh, yes, yes.

I was like, what?

I swear, I was so nervous. So nervous. But, really, you don't have... the ability to speak English at all. I have, but... I can understand.

I can understand.

It's hard to say what he's saying.

It's like when you're being hit, you can only say,

I'm sorry.

So, I can understand what he's saying. But, it's hard to understand what he's saying.

But, it's a decision.

You're sending your kid to an international school. Once there's something that happens to the kid, you'll get the communication from the teacher, or the kid's development. And they have SOP, that when they're in school,

they have to speak English.

Right.

Sorry, I cut you off. Nika is right. From the beginning, if I want to send my kid to school in English, we can imagine, right? So, when we go to school and meet the teacher,

the language will be English. Right.

The teacher's energy is mixed. Or all of them are Indonesian.

Mixed. All of them are Indonesian. Sometimes they still teach us in Indonesian. But after you said that, we still meet outside of school. Maybe there will be activities in school.

I'm already thinking about it, it's like a wrong decision. It's not the right decision. When my kids were in preschool, they met their teachers who were still mixed. There were Indonesian teachers. Usually, there are two teachers in one class. One from the Philippines, and the other from Indonesia.

So the information was still balanced, between this person talking, this person explaining, this person talking, this person explaining. Because my ability to catch everything that the kids' teachers talk about, not everything is well absorbed. My wife might be better than me. So, when the kids start growing up, the new school... ...suddenly the teachers are different.

For example, the teacher's sidekick is full. For example, people...

That's usually what makes us nervous. Do you believe it or not? My kid, if there's a meeting... ...with the parents, I'll be like, It makes us nervous. Do you believe that if my kid meets an old person, I'll be like, my wife, you're the one.

You're the one.

When there's a fight, I can't. I always say, I'm sorry, I can't go to your school.

I have work.

Because you're so close.

Really? Yes.

If...

So you're telling me to go forward? Yes. If I So you're telling me to be the one who's going forward? Yes. If I were you, I would. No matter what, I would.

And I would tell my wife, Miss, I'm talking to my wife.

That's a good example.

That's a good example.

That's a good example.

I mean...

Well, I can't deny this, Rik. I mean, there was a time when I almost moved my kid to school. For one reason, or maybe several reasons. The point, the bounce back, was when I saw there was a border, and a 5th grade kid

talking to himself, monologue, as the host, he was speaking in English. It was smooth. And I thought, what if in the next few decades, I have to work harder

so my kids can get the best education. That's my version. So, I don't know if you've experienced a school assignment in English from your kid.

Maybe I'm still in preschool. And it's only been 2 months.

You have to start thinking, you have to start learning English. Because when you're in elementary school, junior high, all the assignments are in English. That's why I...

I don't help my kid in school.

And you have to be ready.

I mean, you're known as a public figure

Yeah, yeah, yeah Once your school asks for help

Sir, there's an event, and all that

Please switch!

I don't think the kid's artistic soul is strong Just live on the street with a laptop

That's not it, damn it!

From the cinema, damn it!

Crazy, crazy, crazy That's not it. Don't upgrade. That's crazy.

You mean we have to upgrade. We have to upgrade. I don't talk to you at home. Sometimes, at one moment, I get used to it.

I also learn to be more open. Even though it's wrong.

I just talk to my kids. But, I see just talk to the kid. But, I also saw that from... Ko Ernest and T.Mera. Their English is not good. Ko Ernest and T.Mera, I think they're both from HI.

Communication. So their English is...

What's HI? Haji Imron?

So, they're in Bundaran. Bundaran. I'm Haji Imron. He was kicked out.

He was kicked out.

So, Sky was his uncle's son. He was still young, around 4 or 5 years old. Sometimes he would play with me and G. He didn't speak English well yet.

We felt like he was one of his favorite uncles. He invited us to play with Sky. After that, they moved to Bali for about 2 years. Sky went to school, we were busy with work. Let's say, we met again after 4 years. Sky was in 3rd or 4th grade

I think he was studying English He played with me I didn't understand English I swear, he was so funny I was like, what is he doing? But he wanted to have fun with us

Uncle...

I'm so confused

What about you, Indah? Indah is also easy-going with me. She's also easy-going in English. Because what the kids learn at school sometimes they have to get used to it. She brings it home.

I think she's the one who teaches us after the shoot. If for example 5 years ago, my English is getting better, it means it's because of Naka. That's why I'm started to dare to travel abroad. Just the five of us. It's only now, Ri.

Because my two kids are 14 and 13 years old. The first one is already big. And they're brave. The third one already has the English language knowledge. While the parents who speak... ...they know the intention to go to Japan, but we go to Uganda.

This time, you ask them directly. That's one of the advantages of traveling abroad. I also encourage my children. My two children are already grown up, they're in college. So, if there's trouble on the road... ...or we need to talk about something a little bit complicated...

...or we want to complain about something that's a little bit complicated Or we want to complain about something that's not appropriate For example, the hotel service, we order like this To explain, sometimes I and Usi have a limit And I just...

Go for it!

He speaks more fluently, more what? With the customer, I mean, the way they speak They communicate similar If we open sentences by praising each other The way they speak, they communicate Yeah, it's like... Opening sentences by praising each other Oh, you look cool today wearing that shirt

Those are compliments

There's a language Sometimes we need a language to go to something If we don't have a language, people might feel like we're not polite We don't know But don't let us take advantage of our children. For example, if we ask for their address, for example, I ask Khaoky to speak in English,

and when he speaks to us, don't let Khaoky speak English to us too. Because it's a waste.

What are you helping me for?

I'm confused too. You speak English to me, but I speak English.

You're the same as me and my son.

I'm afraid, honestly, if we're traveling with my wife,

we'll be like, let's go somewhere. Seriously?

Yes.

Because I know our English skills are both weak. When we're both weak, there has to be one person to sacrifice.

To move forward.

It's impossible.

Who?

What is it?

Look at me and Ayu. Do you think I dare to fight Ayu? I'm the one who sacrificed.

Come on, ask. Sometimes it's like that.

We understand what he's saying,

but we...

It's hard to reverse it.

Koala!

He's like this.

But if it's a day, I mean, the basic daily communication is okay, right? You control it, right? I mean, to talk to the kids, what do you eat today?

It's thin too, honestly. To be honest, to this point that bad. Up to this point. But, thankfully, Naka is still in pre-school. You can see the signs of his growth. So, I think I will try to upgrade a little bit. So, at least,

I can still accompany him in daily conversations. I can still accompany him. I think it's a must. And after this podcast, I think I'm getting more excited.

But you have to start.

You have to start, Riri.

Where do you live?

Andara. Okay, just go to Les, Liyapramuka.

It's far, right?

It's far, right?

It's okay, it's getting farther.

I'm already in Java be bald I want to be bald

Because

Once

I scrolled His Instagram

I saw a similarity A resemblance In that part I saw you

Picking up your kid

Your kid I felt that Even though I'm slowly

Upgrading myself Yesterday he came home From school

The one in the video

Yes, yes, yes He came home from school, that's the one in the video. Yeah, I saw it. It was so funny. His mom was working in Banyuwangi. I picked him up and he was like, Where is mom?

What is this?

Your mom is on vacation, right?

Do you know that?

In my head,

I wanted to answer, your mom is working.

Then, in my head, Is was like, I want to answer, Your mom is working. And then,

In my head, I was like, Work? Job? Or Work? The answer is Vacation.

You're just walking around.

I'm just shooting. In my head, I was like,

Your mom is working. But the answer is, Your mom, job. The words are so weird. Your mom, work. The words are so weird, the words. Your mom work. It's so weird, the words. So, your mom vacation.

Vacation.

So, it's so weird. But it's okay. He understood it.

Okay.

Then, he asked again.

Where is dad?

I thought he was asking me.

Where is dad?

Your mom... Vacation. In Banyuwangi. Where is that? I thought, he asked where is that I answered, that?

It's just me

You're so mean

You're so embarrassing He asked where is Banyuwangi Where is it? You have to see Where? You have to look at the sentence You have to look at the sentence

It's not even there yet

This is weird

I said, I mean, I mean

Then, what did he ask? I laughed because someone corrected me No, he asked like this Then, what did he ask? I laughed because someone corrected me No, he asked me this What did he ask? He pointed up

He pointed up What is that? Then I looked up What did he point? Or he still asked where is that? What is that?

Then I looked up and there was no leaf I answered Then he left I asked him, what is that? I looked at him, he didn't know. I said, leave.

Then he left. Then he left. He was left behind. You told him to leave. No, I didn't tell him to leave.

He didn't know.

So, he said, leave.

What is that weird English?

You and your dad got it wrong.

Oh my God.

That's the dangerous part. That's one of the same fears we have. No matter what, we want the kids to master other languages. Right. Other than Indonesian. Because in the future, the times will be better.

And I believe that when you master one language, let's say the basics are English, and then you add other languages, you can live anywhere in the world. You can interact. You can know your needs. Because it's because of us. Our limitations are sometimes not good.

We like to be stuck here and there with the situation. Especially working on limitations. Sometimes, we don't feel comfortable. We tend to get stuck in situations. Especially when we're working on TV. Sometimes, the guest star suddenly becomes a foreigner. Or suddenly... My mom, every time she's interviewing a foreign actor,

she's like, where are you from, Petitien?

Where are you from? She's the one who interviewed Patricia Efra. She told me about it.

So, for those limitations, For that kind of language barrier, don't let our kids feel it. This is what I feel. I have a kid who's in school where English is one of the main languages. When there's a school event, I don't know if there's a school event for Andika's kid or not, I'm sure there is. You will be there one day.

Where they make a project...

...a group...

...and they show their project results.

Presentation.

And we as parents are all invited. And we are told to come.

To each of our projects.

To ask for answers.

To ask for answers. To find out what the project is. I'm broken. Each of us, one by one, and... Asked the question.

What does this project mean to you?

I'm broken.

That's it. That's right.

I came there, what is that? Nice.

Nice, awesome.

What I'm afraid of is when you ask, what is that?

This is me.

This is me! This is me!

That's one of the things that make me stressed.

For me.

When, moreover,

whether we want it or not, our kids, that's one of the projects for our kids. And we have to be there. Whether we want it or not, our children will come. They will come. When they come, we don't just ask our children.

Ask other children.

Ask other children.

So, it's limited.

Okay, what is this? Oh, nice.

You're like that too.

Why? I don't know.

You're like a clown.

Yeah, I'm a clown.

You're a clown.

You're a clown.

You're a clown.

You're really a clown.

Yeah.

And what I'm afraid of is that after the project is done, and you're done with it, we, the parents who don't speak English well,

might be the subject of conversation among the friends.

Of course.

But I think I've prepared an answer for Naka. If one day, he asks why I can't be with him in some things, I apologize to him. Naka, I'm sorry. I didn't be with him in some of the things. I apologized to him. I said, I'm sorry, I didn't think about it this far. Your life plan is quite simple.

But it turns out that God brought you this far, enjoy the facility.

The presence of Indah in your life, how far has it brought you?

Wow, far, far.

To be the version of Ari Kreting version of yourself? Far, far, far. I haven't met Indah yet. I've been working for quite a while. You've been doing stand-up, right? Yeah, I've been doing stand-up for 6-7 years.

You were the one who supported Fudu before stand-up? Before stand stand up. I was a foodie.

So, I had been working for 6-7 years. I had enough savings. But that day, I was living in a boarding house. The kids knew. I was living with Abdur, Ardit, Yusril,

the late Babe Cabita. I was living with them. First, I was the first one to go. First, I went to the apartment with Babe. Then, Babe, the late, moved to the apartment. I went with Abdur. Then, Abdur, he bought a house, moved to another house.

I was still in the same apartment. With Yusril, everyone else, I was always in the middle of nowhere. I didn't have a motorbike, I didn't have a car. I took the bus everywhere. Until 2017. So, I was probably a typical person who... You couldn't manage your life?

You couldn't manage your finances? No, I wasn't too greedy. So, I just took the money. I sent it home. For example, if you want to buy this land, just buy it. If we want to build this, just build it. But for me personally,

You don't think about it?

No, I don't need anything. I'm satisfied with what I have. The important thing is I have a job, I have friends. That's what I thought back then. So, I only have a house. I live in a house, I don't have a car. Then I met you. You were the one who made me move forward

to do something. To improve my life. I started to buy a car. I started to move to a rented house. I even... I left my house

in high school. I was 33 years old. I lived in a boarding house. I didn't even live in a boarding house. The first time I married Indah, Indah asked me, do you want to live in a boarding house? I said yes.

I finally moved to a boarding house after living in a boarding house for 15 years. I didn't understand other people's lives other than the cost of living. I didn't understand. So, I was like, I was already working, I was already playing movies, everything. I just had to live the life. Later, Enda taught me,

he pushed me to move to another company. He asked me to buy a car. He's the one who... Learned to be responsible. That's why when I first bought a car, do you know why?

Why?

I've never told this story in a podcast.

Damn it.

You're kidding.

You're kidding.

But it's true.

Why? I forgot. I told you before. The first time I bought a car, Indah asked me to. What?

Indah asked me to.

I said, let's buy a car. Why? We dated for a year. She took the bus. She took the Transjakarta bus. She took the Transjakarta bus from Cibubur, her house.

She took the Transjakarta bus We got off at Uki, in front of Uki, and then we took the Go-Kart. We watched the movie, we watched the movie. So our routine was always like that. Maybe he was also annoyed.

I asked him to buy a car.

He said, car. At that time, we started to dislike it. Our relationship started to be disliked. We hadn't even it. We didn't go to public. But we knew that we didn't like it. So he asked me to buy a car. So that I can have a place in front of my parents.

He said that.

At least, I thought about it. Because it makes sense. I mean, if I have a daughter, she will work well. She has a career. Suddenly, she's approached by someone who... Damn, this person is crazy.

Right?

He lives in a boarding house, he has nothing. I think it's not supposed to be like that. We have to try. I tried to buy a car. So it's not purely for my needs or... To protect you too, in the end.

Yes, that's right. To... To have self-esteem, if you will. To have self-worth. Yes, that's right. Yes. In my opinion, self-worth shouldn't be based on worldly things.

But people nowadays... No matter what people think, there are things we have to... accept. It's the same. My wife and I, when we were dating,

we had different status. Different social status. There was a gap in age. 6 years difference. I was younger. Back then, we had the image of a bachelor. Living a life of a nomad.

Back then, for the first time, my wife did the same thing. She was passionate about her job. She showed people that she wasn't just living off of me. That's one of the reasons he bought a car. He didn't buy a car to show off.

But to protect our self-esteem from other people's looks. He did it for his own sake, not for his own needs. That's right. But for others, he was just a show-off. He was like, this is Nata, we need a house. Right, right.

It was all from him. I don't think I understand how he did it. Because you never got an example like that? Or your parents were just teaching you simple things? No, actually, I have parents who people who try to improve their lives. They build a house, give their kids a school.

I think that's just my personality. I don't think I like to... I don't like to give something for...

Self-reward?

You have a narrow ambition. I think so. There's one thing I like.

Shoes.

I used to... Shoes. I was a fashionista. That's one of the things. I was a fashionista. I told people that I work in the entertainment world.

You should buy shoes.

And Darto.

I don't know if he realized it or not. One of the reasons why I bought shoes was because Darto told me. They said, our job is in the entertainment world. Your clothes, your style, it's up to you what your style is like But he said Shoes, if you have a few shoes I used to have only one or two shoes

Dato is the one who remembers I've been here three times

The shoes are the same

That's Dato That's like saying, oh yeah, that's right That's in the heart Pay attention to people But for some of the But for those who watch, maybe those who are not in our world of work,

maybe they think it's fine, having only 2 or 3 pairs of shoes. But in our world of work, one of the things that is sold is appearance. Whether you like it or not. Even now in this modern era,

in any work world, people are evaluated for the first time, I'm sorry, In this modern world, no matter what job you have, people will be judged first by your looks. Before they see your work results, they will see your looks. People accept jobs because of their looks.

That's our first impression.

People can trust you. If you can pay attention to your looks, you will automatically have focus and attention to your work. Not as a definite indication, but at least you pay attention to your condition. You come to the office or you come to the workplace. I understand that very slowly. Because I jumped into this industry. Not someone who studies the industry, wants to enter the industry,

and finally accepted. Not someone who studies a career like that or friends, or has an environment in the entertainment industry

no

suddenly right?

suddenly

I went from a satpam club to

suddenly satpam suddenly oh you're in a gang?

oh you mean

Adi come in I think those kind of tasks are beautiful you do everything including cleaning the house cleaning the house

he's the one who decides everything. He's the one who's in charge of all of that?

He's the one. He's the one who's in charge of all of that. If you asked me earlier about the impact it has on my life, it's too big. If I say it's too big.

Too big.

But this is interesting. I'm talking about self-reward. We're talking about self-reward. I'm actually pretty much like you. I mean, my wife's presence... Even though we have different backgrounds. My wife is like a Spartan.

While I'm the one who avoids conflict. But when I met a psychologist, the psychologist told me, that's why you're meant to be. Because that's what makes you complement each other. And then, self-reward.

Self-reward. I'm also... You're selfish. I'm so selfish. If I want to buy something, like shoes, I like shoes.

I like shoes. Because I had a hard time in school. Having good shoes was hard. Maybe I was given a blessing from God.

Here.

You see shoes, buy. You see shoes, buy. Besides because it's our needs. It's impossible. I'm aware of it. My management told me that looks are important.

Especially for work. Sometimes when I see something,

I'm like, wow, this is good. The waiter, for example, is like, wow, this is not good.

The price is not worth it. You're not worth it.

You're not worth it.

My wife told me, I could be scolded,

why did you choose that job? It's too expensive, not worth it. God knows, you're tired of working, you have to take care of yourself.

We're always dilemmatic about these things. For some people, you're given a fortune, a job, it's time to enjoy yourself.

On the other hand, there are opinions that say, don't be a trader, you don't have money. You won't have real money. Sometimes it's like that. But to spend it, because we're not used to it since we're kids To get something, we have to do something first

To get something that we want

Maybe it's a habit from that Maybe it's because we're old now For me, sometimes I still think Instead of spending the money, just save it Maybe for your kids, maybe for your wife.

Meanwhile, for our wives, we should think that we shouldn't just make our wives prettier, we should also make ourselves more handsome. So that we can walk together and be balanced.

That's beautiful. That's what business is all about. You have to make yourself more handsome. I mean, it's a bit hard for me. Can I be a loyal person? I think I can still do it. Yes, you can.

But, I have two points. One point. Okay, we're separated. We're meant to be. Because we complement each other But I honestly

want to learn from you how to give sweet advice to your wife Because I see your relationship with Indah you give sweet advice

Who do you learn from? I think it's from the East What? The East people have sweet mouth It's so sweet. Who did you learn it from? I think it's from the East. The East people have sweet mouths. But that doesn't mean you deliberately manipulate something. No, it's a reflection.

Is that how you talk? I think so. I think because you're an example, maybe your parents had that kind of view that you often witnessed. That's why you finally had the desire If one day I have a wife, I will do the same as my father did

Mother

Oh, that's right I think it's a descendant I think it's a descendant, if I have a family Even the stories are from my grandfather So it's often told at home by my father I also have a father So, I often tell my story at home to my father I also have a father

Yes, to my father People from the East are like rivals

I have a father, I also have a father

People from the East can't be proud of their fathers From my father. My father often tells stories.

I'm not suitable for that.

No wonder.

I have a brother, they were 5 siblings. 2 died when they were young. Then I have this father, he became a gangster. His brother,

he was a prostitute. All of them were men, and they were the youngest. His older sister is a nun. All of them are men. His oldest sister is the one that our family is proud of. She is an artist. She passed away when she was getting married. She passed away the day after he got married. He didn't live long.

His second sister passed away too. So I was left with my own father. Because of that, his children left him. My grandmother... She didn't function. My grandmother.

My father's mother couldn't work as a wife and a child. She lost her... She was a bit disturbed. They were still young. My father was still 5 or 4 years old. My grandfather was asked to remarry his family. He refused.

He said, let me take care of him. I have a grandfather. Those are the stories that come to my mind. How to be a man. I have a grandfather,

he was asked to remarry his family. He refused. He wanted to take care of my grandmother. She was a farmer. My grandmother, maybe because of her anger, she was angry that her son died.

Once a year, she would go and burn my grandfather's farm. Even though their food source was only from there. She was so angry, she would suddenly burn my grandfather's farm. My grandfather was not angry at all. He said he never hit his wife even once. So, if he was angry, he just set the fire and brought his wife home.

It was fine, he just brought her home. I learned love from that. Like, they told me, that's how my grandfather was. That's how it is to have a brother, a grandmother. So, that's how it is to have a father. I mean, my mom and I always take care of our needs at home. We never complain.

My wife and I... I have a mom, maybe there's something wrong, I have a dad who's losing. I have a dad who's losing. And then the work at home, I have a dad who's handling it too. Like cooking, all kinds of things. So maybe there's a connection to that too. The understanding is big. The understanding is big.

So, in my opinion, because we've heard stories like that since we were kids, so the romance of men is absorbed by us.

Meanwhile, Indah is Makassar, right?

Indah is also Makassar. Makassar is different culturally, right? But it's thin a bit thin. It's still close. But Butonese people are in the middle. The Sulawesi culture is strong,

but the Maluku, Papua, and Entete culture also has an influence on us. So, if you compare it to the land of Sulawesi, it's still very similar. But with the people from the islands, like the Maluku people, the Ternate people, they are also very united. Because honestly, that's what I, as a man, want to learn to be better at communicating something, especially to couples.

Especially if the marriage age is more 10 years old, like me. Sometimes there are things that we don't realize, that come out of our mouths, and it hurts us. Or the way we express something, sometimes it's too fast response, without thinking about it, and it becomes a problem.

With your communication style with Indah, does it reduce the friction? Not really. Friction is just there. Friction is there every day. But at least the solution is better.

Maybe people see it on social media. Actually, on social media, it can't be a benchmark. That's what I think. People may see Ari is gentle with Indah. No, sometimes Indah is also really angry with me because my words.

It's just there. And the human's love for Indah will definitely not be released. But, in my principle, what you said earlier, people can have a mutual understanding with their partner. In my opinion, we can have different opinions. We can, what is it called,

advise the partner, it's okay. But the important thing is, don't insult them. Because what makes a conflict, insulting is what becomes toxic, in my opinion. Our shortcomings, don't let it become... I also have a lot of shortcomings.

I feel a lot of shortcomings. Indah, we always agree. That if Indah feels something is not right, please tell me. As hard as you can. But don't insult.

Because insulting is not to fix the relationship. But it hurts the relationship. Don't hurt it. So there's no problem with your speech?

For example, with your high pitch.

It's okay. It's the same. It's the same. Put your dog in its place. Sayang, put your dog in its place. Put your dog in its place.

It's the same, I think. But if for example, put your dog on the place, you don't have your brain. Or something that insults you, that has no context with your needs, I think it's not right. So, if we are two, we agree. As hard as it is, please.

But don't insult. That's all. Have you ever felt like there's a moral responsibility that's heavier? Remembering your journey until you got married. That's heavy.

There are a lot of other people's interactions who comment on your relationship that they don't know about your relationship. But do you feel like you have a moral responsibility? This relationship can't fail. Because this is a fight behind.

A lot of people said to us yesterday, don't let us tell them that we are right. Actually, he has been talking thinking about this for years. But you said it like this, I'm confirming that it's true. I think it's true.

I think there's a push. I think there's a push.

I mean,

the reason people strengthen their love is probably many reasons. But I think maybe there's something that makes us more solid as a couple. I'm sure there are many kinds of questions. But I think there must be something that makes us more solid as a couple. What is it?

Being considered as one of the couple. Being considered. If you listen to my story, there must be a component of being considered as a man to a couple.

You were considered as a man. And I think it, there must be a reason. I was once considered a father, there must be a reason. And I think it's okay. That's our strength. If you ask me like that, maybe 70% to 80% is there. The reason is in the mission of

the two of us.

The two of us strengthen our bond. Because, yes, I mean, doubting us. Don't let that happen. Because, what can we do? And that's even, sorry, I cut it. That's even, we're talking about this,

I have to admit, it's the same. I mean, maybe we're in a position when we get our partner, a lot of eyes are on us, ...when we get our partner... ...they have a lot of eyes on us and maybe... ...they make us feel that we can make our partner happy.

It's also a word of encouragement. When I'm having a problem with my wife and all that... ...at the end when we talk nicely..., I like to say that, Rie. Like, It's over, okay? Don't worry. We have to...

end this with emotions and all that. Because when... we're so angry, we can't hold on to our emotions, when it's a mess, when our marriage is over, people who used to laugh at us and make fun of us, they will be happy.

They will laugh at us. But, back to the point. As we grow older, we realize that sometimes we learn not only from the good things, but also from the bad things. I have to admit, it's one of my reasons and basis to always tell my partner that a divorce is not a way out. For us, it's not our choice.

Don't be in our lives.

So you often discuss when there's a phenomenon in this era, I mean, it's not a good fit, a little problem, what, breaking up, that's it. Do you like to flirt and talk like that?

Yes, sometimes it's like...

Like there's a fear. The closest person to us again.

The closest person to us again. Our world. Our world, we're like... I have my doubts too, bro. Because there are moments when we as a couple

face a problem that makes us feel uneasy There are moments like that for sure And then you go to the kitchen and start cooking again

Be careful

And then you go back to him and ask

Are you happy? I'm happy

Because it's a daily conversation that's quite scary Password is a password But yeah, the separation that sometimes happens with friends It's also a mirror for me Anyway, bro Our conversation is so deep Do you feel the wisdom between us? Anyway, Bang, our conversation has become very deep.

Do you feel the wisdom between us? Try it, Abdul, Mama. The discussion is like this.

Something that empowers.

I'm tired, Bang.

Discussing with them is useless.

It's useless.

It's useless.

If we were at our age, we would talk like this. This is just a meeting, a showcase. I'm not lying I'm not lying I think we're talking about life

Yeah, this is it

We're just hanging out, chatting We're not even going home yet We're like, life has so many values We're like, life has so many values You know why I'm trying to pull Mamak and Amdur I want them to have something like this

A wisdom of life Mamak, Amdur How long are you going a life like this. A wise man, living, a mother, a father.

How long will it last?

But honestly, you all have kids, right?

Yes.

A new mother.

A new mother, right?

I mean, she's a father now. Yes, a father. Abdul is a father too. Yes. Have you ever talked as a father?

Like, really.

Sit down and talk about how you feel as a father. We really did. You sat down and talked about your father's feelings.

Up until now,

Up until now, If I'm with Abdur, If I'm with Mahmad, My job is to take care of Mahmad.

I get it.

Abdur's mouth is so mean.

So mean. I didn't expect that. Mahmad already told us about it. He said, Abdul, your mouth is so bad. I didn't expect that.

You told us about it, right? He said,

I want to kiss you.

Kiss me.

I mean,

Abdul, hold on a little bit.

So cute.

But, I mean, it turns out we can learn from each other. From our own lives. Because that's what I see from you and also Beautiful I think we're the same mind

Yes

What if we make a political party?

Wow

Oh, bro

One episode alone

Not a little bit

But there are opinions He said he was the most excited Yes, he said you were the most excited one. Yeah, he said you're the most enthusiastic one. A few years ago, we met at an event, we discussed political issues, and then you told me,

I think I'll be in the next 10 years. I think so. Until today, I still don't want to put an end to it. I have that feeling. And I'm happy to see Wendi, and Andika. I I'm happy to see Mr. Wendy,

Mr. Andika. I'm so happy now. I mean, yes, that's how it feels. I'll be honest,

I had a moment to look down. Maybe about three years ago, I was a bit interested. Like, I don't care about politics anymore. Then I saw you guys on the news, you were in comedy,

and narrated the situation in the country. That's also one of the things that made me... More motivated? Yes, more motivated. I mean, you two have a career that is not that far, not that high. But we still bring the minor voices into our works.

Even on a bigger screen than my stage. I mean, they still do it. I mean, I gave up. I came back again. I came back for concerts and so on. In 2024, when I was elected,

I helped some friends who were directly interested in it. What do they do with the people? What are they talking about? Well, that's the world that I think for us who... What else? Comedians, sorry.

We comedians have never had a gray life. Funny or not, it's easy. There is no choice. It's obvious, bro. We are people who can't pretend to be successful. We can't...

Yes, bro.

We can't pretend to be successful. We can't... We can't just... report a contract or something, and then we know there's a punchline that didn't get through, or the episode is not good enough. We can't talk like... everything is fine, we can't.

Because the signs are real. Right? People even... I'm sorry, but people even... who listen to us quietly, we don't know if he's quiet because he likes it or not. He's bored or he's angry, we don't know.

People can be so happy, for example, people who are pedantic, right? But we're funny. We can't say, yes, he's quiet, but he really likes my material.

No.

People are funny if he's quiet, he doesn't like it.

It's done.

Yes, it's impossible.

The audience pretend, yes, just now, one room, just stay still, stand up for an hour. Yes, but we really like the material, why not?

No, no.

So, we are the laughers. We know the world of laugh. We know, success and failure, we really know it it means. So that's why we're so sensitive to failure. Because we see there are some that are good, some that are not. Because we're used to seeing our success and failure as a black and white.

Yesterday I helped some friends and I saw that yes, this world is different. There are many gray areas. We can have a bad problem, but we have to say that there is no such thing as a bad problem.

It's very clear. We know that they do it. I think the world is different. But for me, I jumped right in and... I don't know when, if Allah gives me a chance. Because I also know the power of the policy.

I'm a city planner, right? A city planner. Our job is to find the potential and problems of an area. Then the plan functions to maximize the potential and solve the problem. It's actually that simple. This job is that simple.

Set the potential and problems, maximize the potential and solve the problem. Work for 5 years, say it's the last 5 years. It should be like that. Well, that policy can touch many people in a moment. When it's done well. I give 10 students, they'll be proud.

Right? We give 10 students who are qualified, they'll be tired. We're thinking about how to teach our own children. Maybe 10 people. But through the hands of the policy, it's possible to of it. We're thinking about how to run our school. Maybe 10 people. But through the hands of the policy, it's possible to do it. Good education is possible to be done through the hands of the policy.

The problem is, the change can't come from one person. That's why we say it's empty. There are figures that we can trust to bring about a change. That's impossible. The religion itself has said that it won't change a nation if it's not the nation itself that changes it.

What does that mean? A nation. It can't be one person. It's not that a nation can't change unless it's brought to us by a great person.

No.

Unless it's the nation itself that changes it. It It means it can't be one person, one people. So if we have an unchanging people, well, we can only be people who are angry, protest, or make satire, that's it. Up to there, because the people don't want to change. That's why I suggest how we become a people.

How many people do you think we need?

300.

300 people.

Okay.

To make a movement. Movement?

Community.

We agree that we will change a community if it's not the community that changes it. Okay, if for example, the mission was successful. Then, there's a big movement. A big movement. From people who decided to create a people

that agrees with the change. Finally, they got a place, they got trust. They got a chair to hold the power. This doesn't only apply to people below us. But sometimes we have to be synergistic with many things to be able to strengthen the policies that will be made.

For example, you are elected. Yes. You have to go to America to learn.

Yes.

With...

Others.

Yes. In comparison. What about the English language limitation? to learn from others.

How about the English language limitation?

This guy. He's so excited. He's looking for it. He's looking for it.

It's like before we started,

you were like...

If you meet other countries, what do they say?

I'll say this. Religion will never be wrong. I said earlier, people. If people are in politics, Mr. Mahfud said, if people are in politics, the angels that entered inside

will definitely become devils. Because it's one person. This is one people. There's Abang, there's all of us. Ferry Irwan, Dimamat Al-Katir, Abdur. 300 people. 300!

You go in, right? Into a party. The scheme we planned earlier was the same, right? Community. Not one person. Community. Go in. 300.

Say not all were chosen. 25 were bad. All of them were in the DPR. Andika Pratama, Wendy, Ari Kriting, Mamat, Ferry Irwandi. Anyone that we thought wanted to be a changeable person, they were all in.

Then, they went to America. I wasn't alone.

I was a changeable person. A changeable person.

A changeable person.

A changeable person. I know! I know! You're alone! If I go in alone, it will be a mess. But if you want, we can be a group.

If someone I don't understand,

for example, what does that mean? Then I can say to him,

I don't understand either.

Because if you imagine me, when he said 300, I immediately imagined the movie 300. Because he had an idea, I imagined it. He was the one who was bumping in front.

Spartan!

After that, why are you quiet?

Especially in the middle of England. English. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.