Anecdotario - 317 Ya no soy rebelde Ft. Alfonso Herrera

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And look at nothing else, those who gave stories did not lie, we have here today a triple A nothing more and nothing less. What a great portrait!

Thank you very much. Alfonso Hernández!

Chaos!

I was here.

No, thank you for inviting me. I'm actually with two celebrities, because after seeing the noise you made with the Vox event.

Ah, thank you, thank you.

It really was great. And a big hug to Miguel Ángel Fox. I'm going to tell you a story. I did a series with Miguel Ángel Fox in 2008. Are you still a producer on TV or not? I think he still does things for TV. I did the series with him.

It was one of the first series that was... Which one? Terminales. It was Ana Claudia Talancón, I did La Vega, I don't know. Ana Claudia Talancón, Isela Vega, what was it?

Yes, yes, yes.

What were you doing in 2008? I was probably locked in my room.

I can't even tell you half of the things.

I felt so old.

The worst was the second time I was showering that day.

Yes, yes, yes.

I had discovered YouPorn, you would say... And I wasn't very noviero. And you weren't a very good boyfriend.

And you weren't a very good boyfriend. Look...

No, 2008 was in the middle of a boom of... Oh no, was R&B ending?

No, no, no, we were just doing terminals, and I was still in Rebelde. You were still touring, you were doing everything. I was touring and at the same time I was doing my pininos.

That's crazy, because you start as that kid's Poncho Rara wanting to be an actor. What was your goal?

Man, I wanted to study aviation.

I...

All my life I dreamed of being a pilot. I loved airplanes, I love airports. And I told my father, Hey, I want to study commercial aviation. And my father said, perfect. And I said, no, son, novels.

No, son.

No, he told me, he told me.

You're going to be on posters of a lot of women in this country. In your room, above top of their head.

The red jacket looks better than the blue one. But is your dream to be Poncho Chavich?

I'm having a great time.

This is my dream, Poncho, what I'm saying.

I'm sweating.

Surprise him, man.

You're watching, man. No, but I wanted to study aviation, and I told my father, hey, this is what I want to dedicate myself to. And he told me, hey, dad, we're going to San Antonio, you study high school, high school, and from there you go to...

there was a commercial aviation school. They don't give us the permits to go to the school century I was in, and I stayed in a school in Los Leones, which had theater workshops, and in those workshops there was Jimena Zariñana, there was Chema Etavira, there was Maria Aura.

Ah, well, but how do you think? So it wasn't just any theatre workshop so that all of them would have been there. No, no, and besides, the montages didn't look bad. And one day Jimena Zariñana comes and says, hey, my dad is going to make a movie,

would you like to go to the casting of one of my dad's movies. And I said, all of us from the theater workshop went to the casting. And I stayed. I stayed in that time called Romance in the Plaza. When you went to do it, you had already imagined, imagine that I stay or you went to do it like a mess? I went to try and because I had never done a casting in a movie.

You were 19, right?

I was 18, 17, 18. I went and I stayed. And after I stayed, I made the movie and in that movie, Pedro Damián plays it as Marta Ygareda's dad. Yes. And Pedro Damián says, hey, wouldn't you like to audition for a soap opera?

And I said, yes.

You were going to be a pilot.

I've never stopped to watch TV. By pure chance, there's a pilot in the soap opera.

I've never stopped.

Haven't you had to act as a pilot?

No.

That would be good.

That would be good, look.

But then he tells you, drop the phone and...

No, it was an audition. It was an audition. He tells me, hey, well, come to Televisa. And you do the audition. And I remember that I had never stepped on a TV set in my life. I had never been on TV.

Then suddenly I arrive. So, I get there, the lights, and I see Virán Castillo. And they say, action! And I do the scene. And I'm like, ok, I'm leaving. And Pedro says, welcome to the project, you're in. At that time, the TV station was called Class 406.

Of course. And then Pedro says, hey...

You're the poor guy's reverend. Ah, claro, wey. Y después me dice Pedro, oye... El reverde de los pobres.

Shut up, shut up.

Filmamos en Xochimilco, de acuerdo en...

Filmamos en Xochimilco y...

Ayer en el TEC.

Era en Bosque Real, guey.

Y rebelde de los pobres.

Era en Bosque Real.

Era en el Bosque Real.

Que no les queda tan lejos.

No. He was the real Bosque. He didn't stay that far. No, we were very far, Poncho. And then, I finished my sixth grade and I told him, well, that's it, I'm going to study aviation.

Oh, you were still a Ferrari?

Yes, yes, I finished class and I told him, I'm glad you stayed in casting for both things. No, I was going to study aviation. And Pedro tells me, hold on a little bit, hold on a little bit because we bought the rights to an Argentine novel and we are already doing it in three months.

In three months we are going to do the series. And I said, hey, Pedro, no, I want to go, I want to study aviation, that's it. And he said, wait, please, this one now, this one now. So I wait for him, and he's rebellious. And he says, nothing more, two records.

About a week ago I spoke with Pedro, I send him a hug. And he says, nothing more just two albums, two albums. And well, those two albums became album A, album B, diamond album, platinum album, the Maracana special, the special in Madrid. It's what I was going to say, when you see a Maracana full of...

No, no, no. The phenomenon that it becomes. How is it to see a Maracana full of Brazilians calling your name and going crazy with you, one last, and that's it.

No, yes, man.

It's...

And in the mountains, you with your guitar, I swear this one...

And the worst thing is that it has to fly to every city it's going to be presented to,

saying, I want to be the one who goes first.

Man, it's...

No, but that's crazy. That's when you killed the dream of being a pilot.

I go to my dad and I tell him, you know what, dad? I think I'm going to dedicate myself to acting and I want to prepare myself. And dad says, don't be an idiot. That's what he said.

That's what he said.

He said, don't be an idiot. That's what he said. He said, don't be an idiot. You're going to go study to come back and do what you're already doing? He said, learn the way, save, be responsible,

and learn.

And that's what I did. And I've had the opportunity to learn from great teachers, like Luis Estrada, like Damien Alcazar, like Joaquin Cosío, etc. And that's how it was.

And so, thanks to my father, who didn't tell me, no, no, no, son, you have to do this. He told me, no, take the path, be responsible, and I learned along the way.

That's how it was.

He supported you in the beginning with Piloto, and now that he saw the potential here, he said, no, you're doing this wrong.

No, my father always supported me in everything. When I told him I wanted to be a pilot, he said, go, nothing more, responsibility. And I remember when I was still a little kid, when I was in the rebel days. I would go home and I would still go with my dad and he would tell me,

look, look, your messes over there are your messes over there, but from the door to here, your responsibilities are still exactly the same.

Because he was a brat.

Yes, yes. And you don't know how grateful I was. It's hard to manage a star, a star in the house, right? My dad would say, star, star.

They're the ones who keep you grounded.

And they're grateful.

My dad applies a lot of... Since he's from the old school, he gives you love with a bit of bullying. You see this asshole, look at him. Someone is telling him stupid things.

My dad would say, look Alfonso, from here to here, everything. From here to here, nothing. And it went very well for me.

And do you think you got dizzy when you were a rebel, like, I'm Poncho Herrera?

I think it's inevitable to have these stupid thoughts.

Intrusive, like, you're a star.

Because they're truly thoughts... Well, not stupid. No, because I think that in that particular project, it's not like any person who has become popular or who belonged to a popular project. I think that project is more in the basket of phenomenon.

I mean, you had to hear screams of decibels and tones similar to the ones you hear in the Beatles' documentaries. It was great for them. They had to live that. And what you say helped you stay focused, it was the same thing that helped you to follow everything you did later.

Because, just like, how many fans wouldn't have wanted you to stay, to stay, to stay, but you were very clear that you still had a long way to go and things you wanted to do. Yes, I had a very clear goal, and at the same time, I'm also clear that the past makes you the person you are at this moment.

So, many times they would say, hey, but Rebeldi, I had an incredible time. You've never denied the cross of your parish. Never, and I'll never do it, because I learned a lot there. Look,

we were in a process where we were still young.

Yes, no way, We were very young.

And among us we had to deal with, beyond work issues, with grief, losing important family things, difficult processes at work, and beyond the executives and everything, among us we accompanied each other, and among us we freed each other, we were there to help each other out. So, I remember when it started in 2004, we did it with a lot of...

I don't want to sound cheesy, but we did it with a lot of love, and we had a great time. And the last concert we gave in Madrid in 2008, in December, we gave each other a hug with a lot of love.

I mean, we helpedged each other with a lot of love.

We got along very well. So, I have a lot of love for each one of them.

I appreciate it.

Kisses. Congratulations and look, super fans. But then, what's next? What's your first casting that brings you closer to that world? What's your first casting that you say, no way, is it that the journey to Hollywood is already starting? What was that first casting that you said, no way, is it going to be that way?

That, man.

What was that first casting? It wasn't that easy.

No, no, no.

Because you come from a space, from a place, from a project where there are certain characteristics that catalog you in a certain way. They cast you. In a certain way. And I thanked him. I thanked him enormously because I didn't have it easy.

So that made me work even harder. And to have an even clearer path that I wanted to take. And I said, that's the path I want, I'm going to go there. And, sorry, sorry, and fuck my mother if I don't make it. Sorry, sorry, we're a disgust for you. Yes, no, you have no idea.

You have no idea. You have no idea.

So, I said, and...

We are.

And in the end...

But you calm down.

And in the end, look, there were many producers and directors who doubted it.

No way, of course. Far from the fact that the name of V&M, R&B, Sponcho helps you, it's like, nah, this guy you're going to see, this is real acting, now you're going to see what's real, I guess.

Yes, there were a lot of prejudices, but I never doubted myself. That was what helped me. That beyond the noise that was out there, I knew what I wanted, I knew where I wanted to go, and I never doubted myself. If I had listened to all those comments, well, Chancey wouldn't be here. Chancey would have pulled me to another place.

No, if it were easy, everyone who has acted would have done it. No, but curiously, Luis Estrada played a very important role I mean, everyone who's acted would do it. That's a bit of a dream. But curiously, Luis Estrada played a very important role in all of this. I had an exclusive role in Televisa. And at that moment, that was going pretty well for me. And suddenly I got a casting from Luis Estrada,

who at that time was called La Verdad Sospechosa.

Okay.

And I said, Luis Estrada casting.

No way.

I mean, in my wildest dreams, I would have never imagined I would get a casting call for Luis Estrada's new movie. And I prepare it, I go, and I'm sent, by mistake, two castings, the producer's and the reporter's, who is done by Osvaldo Benavides. So, he does it for me, I prepare both,

but I was being cast for the reporter's. So, I go with Sandra Becker, and I present the reporter's, and they say, incredible, that's it, perfect, thank you, we'll talk. And I said, listen, it's the product, too. No, no, no, no, no, that's it, incredible, thank you, bye, bye.

That's it.

And I said, well, let me at least throw up, let me at least do it, and if they don't like it, they put it on the DVD and laugh at me.

No way.

And I did it. And they laughed at you.

And they laughed at me.

And in that, they thanked me, I left. And two days later, I get a call from Luis Estrada. And Luis Estrada says, look, Alfonso, I don't know who you are. Hey, what's up, Cotorros? Once again, doing this nice commercial. The promotion is very simple.

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Good luck. I don't have the pleasure of meeting you. I don't know who you are, but I want you tomorrow at the Churbusco studios at 10 am. And there he was at 10 am at the Churbusco studios.

No way.

And he says, welcome Alfonso Herrera, you are already the reporter in the movie. No way. There's just a Spanish actor who, if he doesn't do it, the producer will do it. And I told him, Luis, being a second-desk job in a movie of yours, welcome. I mean, happy with life.

And in the end, the actor was Luis Tosar. Luis Tosar didn't do it. And he ends up sending me to the producer. But if I hadn't had that...

Tickle.

That tickle, that let me, let me at least take this scene out, I wouldn't have stayed with the producer's role. The reporter Osvaldo Benavides did it and he did it amazing. We made a very good duo. And from there you gain a lot of legitimacy, right?

I mean, from that movie they see you with other eyes.

But what happened was that Luis, a lot of people said, how are you going to hire him? How are you going to hire Alfonso for this project? No, I mean... And Luis gave me a vote of confidence. And Luis told me...

Luis told everyone, he told them, this is my decision. I trust that kid, that kid is going to do it.

That's why Luis is great.

And then he has all my respect and all my loyalty. A little while ago, he...

He legitimized you, right?

In front of a lot of people. No, and besides, he was loyal to me and I will always be loyal to him. A little while ago, they called me for a project, a movie project in the United States. And my agents told me, it's ready, I'm ready. I told them, no, I'm going to stay in Mexico to make a TV series with Luis.

And they couldn't believe it. But how are you going to stay in Mexico to make TV? I told them, well, it's a Luis project and I, with Luis, whoever talks to me, if Luis is filming,

I'm going with Luis. Very frustrated, but... With Luis, the Wonder Woman comes out!

But my son...

It wasn't the Wonder Woman. It was a movie that already came out, it went very well for him. And I'm sure that it will go to the dead. Incredible.

It's Luis, and it's you, and the story... That story is very interesting. We just talked about it a little while ago.

It was very curious that, I mean, this is probably coming out one or two episodes later, that we were talking about the Pocchianchis, that we started to investigate things, because I was just telling Slobo that I didn't know the case so much and how it was going. How curious that you came came to present this project. And I think the interesting thing about Luis and talking about Jorge Ibargüengoite is that

if you talk about Ibargüengoite and Luis Estrada, they are two people who conceive Mexico and who create acid, apocalyptic, dangerously funny radiographies of what we are as a society. And I think they perfectly capture the social, political context, even how we deal with family issues. So, Ibargüengoitia and Luis Estrada, and it's Ibargüengoitia in steroids and Luis Estrada in steroids.

Even the first movie that Luis made, well, one of the first movies that Luis made with his father, the dog Estrada, was Mate en el León, also by Jorge Ibargüengoitia, in Puerto Rico. And one of Ibargüengoitia's books is also called La ley de Rodes, which are stories that talk about Mexicanity.

So Ibargüwengoite and Luis... Natural chemistry. There's something there, there's something there that's very, very interesting. No, Luis' eye, as you say, is incredible. How he manages to capture the essence as well, right? I mean, from the smallest detail that makes you feel there,

it's like, of course, that's how they are. This particular series is something that I hadn't seen in Latin America. It's 5,000 extras, 217 sets, 170 actors with parliament. It's a tremendous thing.

How many episodes are there?

There are six episodes. It's a mini-series. And the coolest thing about Luis is that he treats every episode like it's a movie. Because every episode has its tone, every episode has its rhythm,

and Luis, well, he's Luis, and he treats it in a fantastic way.

And when he talks to you about this project, I mean, like I was saying, you're like Leonardo DiCaprio in his Martin Scorsese, right? Jacuzzi.

But you do miss the, like, I have this now, right? No, he just tells me, Poncho, I'm going to send you a script, it's from this to this, and that's it. I mean, if he talks to me, he knows I'm going to be there.

Yes, yes, yes.

And that's it. I imagine. It's incredible. Beyond understanding and knowing that the story or whatever he's going to do will be good, the anecdotes, I mean, getting to the set with him, having a coffee with him, telling you his stories. What he knows about history, politics. It's fantastic. And I think in a project like this, something that the platforms did come to put the table for,

something that I think is relatively new compared to previous series, is that now they make 6, 8 episodes, long, as you say, which are more like in a movie, that before normally the series were thought of as, let's do 20 episodes, half an hour. And then nothing happens. You see the 3 and then you see the 7. And now it's like they're series, but it's like it's more like it's still cinema in a longer form.

Totally. And also, I enjoy it a lot because they are longer arcs. You have a chance to develop a little more. I enjoy it a lot. And right now, what platforms are betting on a lot are adaptations. Frankenstein, 100 years of solitude,

the dead, and there are other exercises on other platforms. And I think we have so much content today, and there are so many stories, that if you go to the classics, I understand that there is a very solid and proven spine, and as such, they say, I think this can pull. So now the big challenge is that the adaptation is good.

And I think this adaptation of Luis and Jaime, Jaime San Pietro, is fantastic.

And the cast is incredible. I don't want to sound like a radio comment, but damn.

They're all there.

Yes, man.

All of them. Damn. From the first scene, it's like, man.

And Cunacuri here won't let me lie, they're all there.

All of them.

No, put on the DVD. Do the Z. Yes, yes. Paulina does it great. She's a great actress. I met her in a series where she was an influencer.

Do you remember her name?

No. Something like... I said, wow, she does it so well.

Paulina Gaitán was in Narcos. She was Wagner Moura's wife. It's amazing.

She absorbs the skin.

Paulina Gaitán, Joaquín Cosío, his server, Uncle Gamboin, Arcelia Ramírez, Mauricio Cisar, Father Tomás. Father Tomás, you were one of the days that they did see her.

Shut up, man.

One of the 10 that saw her.

Another time a friend came to me and said,

I loved The Exorcist. I said, you were one of the 15 that saw her.

But...

But that's cool that now they can tell you a lot of things that have been good for them. That people tell me about Ozark, The Exorcist, of... I'm a legista, not the break-up man. I'm a legista, not the break-up man. But you were lucky to be a Batman.

Yeah, yeah. We were down there doing some crazy stuff.

And no way.

Beyond the fact that I really enjoyed my dad being the exorcist. Because my dad would say, what a great link, what a barbarian, he's a priest, I believe him. And it's true. You achieve a humanity with this awesome role.

I was reading in the reviews, it went well for you. Two solid seasons.

Yes, it went well for us in the reviews. The truth is, the second season was going to be tough. The truth is. But because of the reviews, they kept us. But they did send us to Vancouver to film. When they send you to Vancouver, it's a bigger budget.

They say I don't vomit anymore.

They don't vomit anymore.

They ask the same screenwriters, spit but nothing comes out.

The devil only screams. Pure water. He spits, but nothing comes out.

The devil only screams. Pure water.

And yes, it went very well for us. I mean, they were really going to give us a hard time for the second season. But they did Pilot Season, they didn't find a project solid enough to replace that slot. And they said, let's keep the exorcist. And it's not for nothing, but Jeremy Slater,

who is now, I think he's like the right hand of Gunn,

in DC.

Ah, of James Gunn. James Gunn is there in his sect of... Moralesores. Ben Daniels, look, Ben Daniels is a tremendous actor. I mean, I saw him, and I saw his close-ups,

and I saw how he worked, and I saw how he tuned his gaze. And they told me,

you're going to Alfonso,

and I was like, well, there goes the misery.

But what a bastard to be watching that and learning at the moment.

I learned a lot from Ben Daniels. For example, once, and I'll never forget this, I was on set and I was telling him, I'm running out of air, I'm running out of air. I don't know why I'm running out of air. He said, you haven't understood the scene.

Read it, understand it well, and when you understand it well, your body will adapt and understand. It will adapt. So I read it and he helped me understand it. Yeah, like process it. And the moment I said it was like eureka, automatically the body adapts and boom.

It stopped needing.

No, I didn't have any problems.

I mean, who have you shared a painting with? Enozark is also great, right? Laura Linney. No way.

Laura Linney, look, I think that in Enozark, the magnitude and greatness of that cast is that they are humble. Oh yeah? That's cool. They are cool. Laura Linney...

I'm going to cry.

When we filmed Ozark, we were in the middle of a pandemic. And there was the COVID group, and there was the group that was filming the series. So, the COVID people didn't really understand how a film set worked. So, when the audio guy would come,

and he was going to give you the microphone, all of a sudden, the COVID people would say, hey, what are you doing?

How the hell are you going to talk?

You have to put on the earplugs. and I'm like, hey, what are you doing? How the fuck are you going to talk to her?

How do we do it? There's a closeness that is needed. Laura Lini took two days to explain to the COVID group how a film set worked, what are the processes of closeness that need to be had so that there could be harmony. Zero could, it had to be his role and he raffled it, right? necesitan tener para que pudiera haber y para que pudiera haber un armonía.

Cero tenía que ser su rol y se rifó, ¿no? Qué chido.

Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman al principio como que me veía así, me decía, ¿qué clase de cucarachos eres tu, cabrón? Como que al principio como que tomaba mucha distancia y como que estaba viendo qué estaba haciendo.

¿Crees que te hubiera dicho Miguel?

Ah, bueno. I was watching what she was doing. Do you think she would have said, Miguel? Oh, well, I have a great story that...

I have a great story.

And they leave. Julia Garner, I was filming a scene. And we were going to do a... I finished that scene and then they were going to do a company move to film some things with her. And it was my last shot.

And we were having a coffee while she was waiting for the company move. She said,

I had already seen you. Where? In Rebelde.

No way.

Julia Gardner.

How do you think?

I see Rebelde.

Yes.

And I know the songs.

No!

Yes!

How? And you suddenly saw him singing and you say,

yes, of course, this is not true.

It was like a...

Hey, Jason was coming and you, no, no, we'll see later.

No, it's not me, it's not me. I was telling you that Jason Bateman was treating you badly because you killed Renata. But I was telling him, Julia, how? He told me, well, we were in a camp and there were Latinos. And well, I saw you there.

Wow, what madness.

Yes, yes, yes.

What moment did you think I was going to get to a place like Rimmel?

Silversurfer.

Hey, and of all of them, I mean, besides the ones you already mentioned, was there someone in the cast that you could say, how did you learn from this guy?

From Ozark? Well, it's that...

Everyone gives you credit, right? It's that Jason... What impressed me about Jason was that he produces, directs, acts, and does everything impeccably. And when I finished, at first I was like, what kind of bastard is this guy? And he was like looking at me, and as he saw me... He was like expecting to see what he was doing, how he was solving the scenes.

And as the rushes came, they said, this guy is so dumb.

Let's...

But how cool is it that you win the vote of confidence from someone like that? Why don't you take it personally? You know he's a guy who's very pro.

It's his project.

His job is to do that.

He produces and it's his project. And it's not the first time you've been in that position. I think it's's been a constant, as you've been climbing steps in your career. And also, the pressure of being in that place, that pressure, is truly a privilege. So, what do you do with that?

It's cool pressure. I don't want to imagine myself when they tell you, action, in a scene like this, with all these guys,

and you get there, you hold them, and you also steal it. It's like when athletes go to the Olympic Games. I feel that even as a country it is exciting to say,

this guy is from Mexico.

And he's doing it, man.

Yes, dude.

No, no, man. Listen to the great paper, dude. It was very good. How did you prepare for it? I already look like Shaniq, right?

But how did you...

It was very fun. I swear, it was so funny because I understood when I read the role. I said, this guy, wherever he goes, he doesn't feel welcome. He doesn't feel welcome with the Barrett, he doesn't feel welcome with his own family because he's not the son of...

Yes, yes, yes, of this... José Mavá, this guy, the... Fucking hell. What was his last name? Well, let's say...

Javier... It's Sando.

It's Sando.

Yes, but that was the character...

Oh, God.

No, the name is wrong.

It's my uncle. I yes, yes. I wasn't the heir. The lineage was going to go directly to me. So, he was a character that bothered me regardless of where I got.

But I felt the tension, man.

When he arrived, I was like, -"No way, he's going to be a mom."

But I said, if this guy all the time feels this situation where he doesn't feel welcome, he doesn't feel welcome. He doesn't feel... I think he's at a point where he doesn't care about anything and he just laughs it off and enjoys not being welcomed.

Yeah.

So I said, I'm going to play. I'm going to play. So I played. I really played and I had a lot of fun.

No way. Incredible. Yeah, when you kill him.

The dog, right? For example, that wasn't marked. I enjoyed it a lot. No way. It's incredible. Yes, when you give it a smack.

The dog, right? For example, that wasn't on the list. That scene, it's supposed to be his dog and he says, beautiful doggy, you know? But I made an emphasis there to say, if you go too far, I'll take care of it.

It's beautiful.

You're going to be fine, Kaiser.

It's all good. It's him, you, and so on.

No, man. It was awesome. I mean, I enjoyed the show a lot. When you arrived, you were a tension. Because, as a Mexican, you enjoy a lot that you do lie in Spanish, man. I mean, I understand that it goes to a target, in its English majority, the same guy, like,

Al Mándalos a la Borga.

But something that this show has that's really cool is that it creates a general responsibility. I mean, to understand that business, they say, for there to be a Z, it needs an A. So for that Z to come from A, there's a little way. And that business has a little way.

So it also places a very interesting responsibility in the north, because the responsibility doesn't only fall in the south. Maybe, that's interesting. It's something very interesting. And it creates a microcosm in Ozark, Missouri,

where it creates a microcosm where somehow everything is represented. So, it's very interesting too.

And how long did you sell yourself for recordings and projects?

Nine months I sold myself in AdSan.

Nine months?

Nine months locked up. Because, as we were in COVID, I spent it in the apartment. I only went out to do my shopping, I came back and studied.

That was also a double-edged sword, and in that sense, good, right? That you could get there and be doing your shit without having anything distracting you, right?

Totally. I was completely focused on the project. And I also knew... I mean, there was a... You had to do... I mean, I felt, I said, I have to... I mean, I have to take care of this. And fortunately it worked. It worked very well.

It's amazing.

One of the most successful projects Netflix has had.

It's amazing that from RBB, two very similar roles come out in terms of construction, which is Tony Dalton in Better Call Saul, and you here in No Sarc.

He does it very well, Tony.

He does it very well.

He does it very well, Tony. Yes, very well. He does it very well.

Fantastic.

And also Tony, he was very clear about what he wanted to do.

Yes.

And this...

And here you are with Tony too, right? Talking about... Look how he unites everything.

No, no.

And I'm going to tell you, for example, Tony told me that when he did Matando Cabos, he had an accident because I think he hurt his leg. I think he was in the bathroom, he was bathing, a glass broke and he scratched his leg. And from there he said, well, I'm going to stay at rest for four months or I don't know how long. And he started writing Matando Cabos.

And that was like the little path he took. He writes very well, he's a very good actor, and he has a very good taste. My dear Tony, we send him a hug.

Greetings, Tony. And here, you also share a painting with him again. How different do you think they are? Because we have a background that Tony is more like old school, acting cut, no, don't talk to me about that right now. Man, it's amazing, Tony.

Yes? So we screw him? Yes, yes, we screw them.

Every time I touch Tony, I greet him with great pleasure. And we laugh a lot.

Which is also part of what makes them great. Here in the studio, with the rifle chroma.

Something that makes them great is that they choose projects...

It's cool.

It's not like the dungeon, which was the opposite.

Oh, yes.

You knew they were going to break you.

They were going to break your mother.

Dude, the other time, where was I? Well, I'll tell you later. No, no, tell me. I was trying to remember. I was in a set, in some photos,

and I said,

this reminds me of... What was the show?

The Carabiner of Ambrose.

Oh, yes, I said, this reminds me of the Carabiner of Ambrose. And all in silence. Nobody knows the Carabiner of Ambrose.

It's more famous now.

No, that's already... Comedians, yes. All the career. It's more like a show for comedians.

All the billets. They know you.

What's up Poncho?

What's next for Poncho after this? No kidding.

What's next for Poncho?

Right now, Las Muertas. It premieres on September 10th. And next year we'll premiere Casa de los Espíritus, which is inspired by Isabela Allende's novel. It premieres on another platform, on Amazon. And two years ago I made a film in Argentina called

Tesis sobre una domesticación, inspired by an Argentinean author called Camila Sousa Villada. A very good writer, a great actress. And I think it will be released in Mexico by... October? November? November. By November, more or less.

That's incredible, man. What a great career. Starting in such a successful project, but so pop and maybe so commercial, to get deep and to scratch the art well. What a bastard. You don't feel like...

But I'll tell you one thing, I took it the same way, I mean, I took it the same way as seriously when I was with my red tie there, acting to me, to Coluchi.

Giving everything.

Giving everything to me, to Coluchi.

No, I acted like a high schooler, man.

I feel like an idiot. How did it go? Bad. I don't know, man.

See?

Yeah, but it was great.

That's how it was when I was 15.

With the neck up.

With the neck up.

But, teacher...

They told me, José Luis, you don't, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like,

I'm going to be like,

I'm going to take a look at the news. I'm going to take a look at the news. I'm going to take a look at the

news.

I'm going to take a look at the news. I'm going to take a look at the news. I'm going to take a look at the news.

I'm going to take a look at the news. The humanitarian campaign started years before, in 2016. It supported the campaign with the refugees in Anzur, which gathered signatures to guarantee education, employment and safe home to the refugees. I tell you, Jerry told me before you went up, our producer Jerry told me, he brought all this information and said, apparently Poncho Herrera is the Pope.

Yes, yes, he tells us, he tells us, he is a saint.

He is a saint.

No, no, no, no.

He is a saint. He's a saint. He's either filming or he's helping.

But that's awesome, man. It's cool that you have this part of altruism so alive.

Well, look, if there's a chance to have a microphone and there's the possibility of doing something, I think it's worth it.

That's awesome.

And, well, yes, I've collaborated with Acnur. We've been to, we went to Uganda a little while ago, together with Barcelona Football Club. We went to Ukraine in 2022.

Wow, that's like...

Dangerous tourism!

And we went to Ukraine.

You went to Ukraine too?

How did that experience go? I mean, I imagine that, obviously, beyond how strong it is to see something like that up close, I mean, everything they must have had to do to even get there must have been a mess. It's truly complex. We got to...

All the transfers have to be by train, because the entire airspace of Ukraine is completely closed. So we got in Poland. We were in Krakow, we did some... They briefed us there, and then they took us to the border with Ukraine, they put us on the ground, and we arrived in Leopolis, there they gave us another brief, because when you enter Ukraine with Acnur,

or well, that's what they told us, to IQIYAMI, you have to buy a reporter's insurance. So, this insurance is, if something happens to you, one arm, 50,000 dollars. No, how do you think? Two arms, 100,000 dollars.

If you lose your life, this is what your family gets. That's what it is. And the more you move to the east, the more you move further east... Water or juice? As you move further east, the life insurance becomes more expensive, because that's where the conflict is, between Ukraine and Russia.

And we went to Leopolis, we went to Buroyanka, we went to Kiev.

And do you remember images like from the movie of World War II? Of buildings...

No, no, no. They touched us. They touched us... What are they called? Alarms. Missile alarms. That they had to go to...

We had to go...

We had to go to a bunker.

Yes.

And something very...

...fucked up was...

We were doing some activities with the kids, because all the parents of those kids were in the conflict, and then suddenly the missile alarm starts to sound and they put us all in the bunker. And it's really... It's very moving and very shocking

to be in a bunker full of children where their parents are fighting and to understand that your context is completely different and also to understand the privilege that we have. We met a 83-year-old lady in Kiev. Her house was bombed, she lost absolutely everything,

all her dead relatives, she lost everything, everything, everything. And I told the lady, Hey, ma'am, what are you going to do? Nothing, I'll move on, I'll rebuild my life, and I'll move on.

At 83.

No way, that's strong.

That's when you say... Yes, you complaining about pure bullshit, right? Yes, there you come back and you don't upload the story anymore. Look at the airport!

Look at this mess!

Yeah, it's the same.

It gives you a lot of perspective.

Hey, at the mayor of Hidalgo, cover the hole! You're almost seeing the...

Yeah, that's right. It's so cool to sign this shit, that you can lose... And how do you get the motivation to do it? Because one thing is to talk about it, to say, hey, I want to use my voice, I can share things. How do you feel about this? With Acnur we started collaborating in 2016, 2017.

But the first times they took you to Barcelona to play fuchu with the kids.

No, no, no, this was a long time ago. But the first time you were taken to Barcelona to play fuchsia with the kids. Yes.

No, no, no, this was a long time ago.

Oh, the Barcelona one.

Well, yes, you were already playing a little more relaxed.

I was already playing more relaxed.

Yes, I can't imagine the fear of hearing all the news about what is happening in Ukraine, go and listen to the alert, even if you don't know what you're getting into, your heart should be alert. But really, the ones who are true heroes are the ones on the field. I think we have to be very clear about what are the... What is my job? My job is to give visibility.

It's sharing the work that ACNUR does, which is truly very lovable. And right now, with the policies that are happening in the North, many humanitarian support budgets have been cut. And right now we are seeing them a little complicated and we are requiring many, many donations. And that's how this institution is being able to be sustained.

I can do that so you can see. Instead of traveling to Ukraine, where do I deposit you, my Panchazo?

On the Acnur page. If you can do it, it will be more than welcome.

No, of course. Put it on Jerry, please. Let's see, put another data of Pochu. But please, Jerry, don't be scared.

Let's see the rebel data.

Rebel data.

More rebel data. The most rebel data. Look, in 2021, he won an Ariel in the category of best actor for his participation in the movie El Baile de los 41. Also very historical. You have to like history too, right?

Yes, you learn a lot. I was saying, how do they do it so that with those kisses, the mustache doesn't move?

With Emiliano.

Yeah, they should have a scene with him. No, but it's very interesting because it's the story of Ignacio de la Torre y Mier, who was Porfirio Díaz's son-in-law, and he was really the one to replace Porfirio Díaz. He was the prince of Mexico. And as such, he was discovered in a raid...

That set up good guys. That set up parties.

What I like is this, man.

And well, it was a movie that, the truth is, we did very well. David Pablos, I think, is is one of the best directors in this country. He's in Venice right now, presenting his new film. I hope he does well there. The locations were amazing, right?

I saw that Frankenstein was given a standing ovation of 14 minutes.

Frankenstein?

Yes.

At 10 you're like, sit down, it was great, but... How long are you going to keep us? My skin hurts. Yeah Yeah, I I'm not going to do it. No, you're already in the paper. If you're already in the paper, put a thousand. No, but that's cool, you've chosen really cool, really punctual projects. I mean, like, really well selected. I mean, they're really pretty, really well taken care of.

Well, look, beyond... I think that when you have the possibility of doing a project, first you have to like it. And I think there's something where you have to say, here we're going to have to do a project, and we have to do a research process.

So I think that's where it's really worth it. And do you think it's always going to go that way, or do you think that one day it will touch you? For example, because then there is something that happens a lot with very serious actors, who say, no, at first I didn't even read that script,

but my children told me, dad, please.

No?

So a lot of those of the royalty of the English performance of Harry Potter arrived, who didn't even think about at first. Well, I did a casting for Mario Bros. For the movie. Because my son was a huge fan of Mario Bros. And I remember that I asked to do the casting.

I mean, in the end I didn't stay, it's ok. But I told him, because I was like, I told him, Danny, I'm in the fight.

I hope you stay.

I like that one.

Of course, eventually the family also influences what you consume at home and even to say, just like there are some who say, one for me, one for them, one for my children.

All of a sudden they have the one for my children. When Luli Pamplina arrives in Mexico, I kidnap her. Mateo would never forgive me. Mexico Sin pression ante is una conte creadora de contenido argentina

pero tiene de que 300 millones de reproducciones por video

So tell me on yes, que famoso dos los niños de verdad pongan los hacer otras cosas

otra vez Es que eso es lo increíble del view de niño que que son niño un niño chiquito te lo puede pedir That's the amazing thing about the view of a child. A little kid can ask you 35 times a day. We were just on the bus, and my kids... Yes, yes. My kids, the youngest loves Abel and Beto. He loves Abel and Beto. He even asked for his Beto perfume.

Wow!

Wow! How old are they? Four. Four. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. foreign

foreign I'm gonna get you a drink. I'm gonna get you a drink. I'm gonna get you a drink. I'm gonna get you a drink.

I'm gonna get you a drink.

I'm gonna get you a drink.

I'm gonna get you a drink. I'm gonna get you a drink. Yeah, yeah. They're going to Buenos Aires, I saw they're going to Argentina. They went to Canada. Yes, we did Vancouver. We've only done Vancouver, right?

No, and Toronto.

Ah, the last time we did Toronto too.

When the perfumes.

They're not going to smell very good there.

If they smell what they smell. The insecticide of the cataract. The insecticide of the cataract. The insecticide of the cataract. The insecticide of the cataract.

Look, here they put you like Tom Cruise. What about Poncho Real analyzing his own action scenes? In Sense8 and The Exorcist,

he himself made several physical sequences without doubt. Well, Sense8 had action scenes. It was also a very cheap series, made of money. One of the most ambitious projects that has ever been made in the world of series. When Netflix starts, House of Cards comes out, and Sense8 is made by the Wachowski sisters, who, for my liking, the sisters revolutionized the way of making movies with Matrix, on a platform that revolutionizes the way of making television. So, it was a big bet, and also,

there is a director of photography that I think is one of the greatest, his name is John Toll, and John Toll was photographing Sense8, and he came to Mexico, and I met him, I was with Lana Wachowski, and I was with Lily Wachowski, Mexico he was

James MacTighe Benganza Lanna Lily

James

No man

No man

For the love of

God Good night Chihuahua No, man. For the love of God.

Good night, Chihuahua. Shut up. He's with the Bachanski sisters. Oh, man.

No, that's crazy. You're with the cream and cream, man. For pure talent.

And it's... It was filmed in a lot of countries, right? I mean, I think there were three or four different crews. No, it was the whole crew traveling. Just the crew, the technical team did change based on the space where they filmed.

I can't imagine how expensive it is.

But it was Mexico, Kenya, Chicago, Germany, India, Korea, and Mexico. I remember the first season. They arrived from... Because they had already filmed in Germany, India, and Chicago. They arrived in Mexico. And Eréndiro and I were like,

Hey, welcome! And everyone was like,

Welcome!

We brought you mariachis, right?

No, they were already...

No, of course, until Marcha Esforzadas. Which of these projects would you say has been the one that demanded you the most in that sense?

I got out of it. The perfect dictatorship. Yes? Yes, the perfect dictatorship. Because that's where... When I leave Rebelde, or when I left these projects,

I ran into Damiano Alcázar, I ran into Noé Hernández, I ran into Joaquín Cosío, I ran into María Rojo. And it's like, come on. Let's see what you've got. You wanted to?

Yes.

Sorry.

And that's when I realized that there was a lot to do. There were many things to learn. Sorry. You know what the novel gives you? The possibility to solve it. Because suddenly, you don't record scenes there. You record effective minutes. You have to record 43, 44 effective minutes of time. The scenes that are. There it is...

Yes, of course. If it didn't come out so well, it's...

And here you have the possibility to take more of your time. Yes, and then you get to dare that two sheets are being thrown per day. But you have to... You have to go from the we are doing it to the we are doing it to the

to the meticulous attention to everything in these two sheets all day long. And you have to understand that that sheet or those two sheets, there is a journey. And there is a journey where there are certain accents,

there are certain contrasts, and it's not just about spitting and spitting the lines. It's about understanding it. Feeling them, even if it sounds like a moth. Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

No, man, that's crazy, that's incredible. Put the next one, man, my Jerry. Put the next one. What nail with what... I'm going to put the key. Say the way to me. You're ready. I'm going to look at it. I don't know. I'm going to get it. I don't know.

I'm going to get it.

I don't know. I'm going to get it.

I don't know. I'm going to get it. I don't know. I'm going to get it. I don't know. the He tried, he tried twice. You vocalized it so well. Jerry said you have to understand the lyrics.

You have to feel it.

I'm learning from the teacher, for God's sake.

Who's your favorite actor? Sorry, I don't know, since you were a kid you said, that guy, I don't know, Robert Daniel Alpachin,

one of those guys. Damien Alcazar. I have a lot of affection for Damien Alcazar. I have a lot of affection for Alcazar. I appreciate him a lot. He was a teacher to me. He's a rat. And I'm very grateful to him. Because in many moments I had doubts.

Because I was with doubts and starting. And the teacher told me, let's see, son, come here. Let's study. Of projects that he wasn't even in. So I supported him a lot.

He supported me a lot. So I have a lot of affection for him.

Because then, as a group, especially of actors, I'm not going to say suckers, but they are very special. It's complicated that you get in, right? You're with the cream and butter of the actors, man.

I mean, they are... At the beginning of the dictatorship, I think Damien was like, oh, man, how is this guy going to be? And little by little, he realized that he wasn't that stupid.

There's no way to shut them up with your work. That's the shit.

That's the most important thing. When there's doubt, let them doubt. But where you have to prove yourself is where... No, not in the blah, blah, blah. When you have to do things, when you have to be in the set, when you have to study, if you get there well prepared,

it's the best way to shut your mouth. And you don't know how many I've shut.

No, well, for God's sake.

It's not because... Yes, because the worst thing is to say, you're going to see, and to say, you're going to see, you're going to see,

and then you don't see.

You don't have to do anything.

You don't have to do anything.

And then you don't see.

It's better not to have said anything and that they see, exactly.

You remember me, right?

The teacher has a... What's the name of the movie he made in Ecuador? Cronicas. Shit. That movie. The killer, Gavito. No, how do you think?

She did that one.

Wow.

The one with Gavito.

It's one of the most amazing works I've seen in cinema. It's impressive what she did. And it's a production from Ecuador, right?

No, it's Mexican.

She did productions, I long for them, your mom did them too. You're like Wikipedia, you're productions, Anelob, and your mom too.

You're like Wikipedia, right?

Well, Iku has worked with... Who have you worked with? I'm going to say it, don't worry. Iku has worked with Iñarritu, Cuarón, with... Whoever you want. That's why Peluciar came to Guarón with whoever you want. In all festivals.

That's why Pelucia came to us.

No, no, no.

No, it's not true.

No, it's not true.

No, no, no.

That's crazy, that's cool.

But I have a lot of affection for Maestro Alcázar, I appreciate him a lot, and I'm very grateful. No, of course not. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,. No, the teacher at my house. I have a lot of affection for him. Just now when I was telling you about doing projects for your children, we already shared credits with Joaquin Cosío thanks to the fact that his son likes Garfield. Yes.

That's crazy.

We were in a production with Joaquin Cosío. I remember when I went to the orange carpet, I said,

no way, that part is coming.

Yes, colleague.

Yes, colleague. Colleague, how are you?

And just because Eliko was very happy that my dad was going to be in Garfield's movie.

Yes.

Well, let's see if, well, no way, Joaquin, I'm going to say it. Joaquin made a voice in Peppa Pig because his son liked Peppa Pig. How do you think?

He's Peppa, three seasons.

I don't remember, but I remember I was in a set, I was in the chair and I said,

What are you doing, Joaquin?

Oh, man, I'm going to be in Peppa Pig. Wow, ready to get into action in a scene with him. I send you a hug, Joaquin. I

Did say every time interest for a I'm going to Yes, I did this one with Discovery and I did La Ciencia de lo Absurdo with National Geographic. I applied a green Helmans.

A little stone.

But it's been a while, more than 10 years, right? The first time I did La Ciencia de lo Absurdo was in 2013. And I remember that I was recording a series in Colombia and they told me, hey, wouldn't you like to do this project? It's not going to take you a long time. I said, of course. I did it and it became a success.

It was a success and nine seasons later there... Another little dove that validates you, right? They start seeing you in other different places, maybe. You know what I liked? When I was a kid, and during the pandemic, my parents would put them on so that they could learn physics, chemistry...

There were many subjects that I didn't know after physics and chemistry. Thanks to this project, I understood them much better.

Yes, they made us read anything.

Third place in HBO, the one about...

Ah, Legado Salvaje, yes. Ah, in HBO, I'm going to look for it.

But you have the gift of ubiquity, apparently, because you have 25 projects online.

And then you find out that while you're watching the movie, no, he's in a bunker right now.

Yes. He's in a bunker. He's in a bunker.

In the middle of the war.

He can't answer the phone because he had to get off.

Yes, he's in Ukraine right now. No way. You have your Germanic pension.

But that's it, work, work, work.

Look, this business, Rafael Inclan told me, he said, Poncho, in this business, you live unemployed your whole life. Sometimes you make a movie, you make a series, you make a play, you do whatever, but you have to constantly see what's next, and what's next, and what's next. And that's what it is. I feel very fortunate to continue working. They also told me, hey, what's the best prize for an actor? Dude, keep working. is to do it more and more. As a comedian, I say mom's until we lose our memory.

But I feel very happy with the project, with what I'm doing and with the profession I chose. And the truth is, it has given me the opportunity to travel, to meet a lot of people. It's a real luxury to be in this profession.

Do you come and go from Mexico or the United States? I mean, do you normally play base in...?

Well, no, no. My base is Mexico. And you don't need to be there, to be there. I think that maybe when you were just trying to get considered for more projects there, you had to be more, like, going around and casting and all that. But I'm going to tell you something.

But now they're talking to you and you're going.

For me, the North never took away my sleep. I mean, it never took away my sleep to work in the United States. Because it's so difficult to get in that,'d think you were there until you got hurt. No, I mean, I worked and suddenly there were castings and auditions and it was just doing them. And out of 147, maybe I'd get one. And out of 2. Because one thing is what you work on.

And another thing is the doors you have to knock on so that they open one for you. Yes, exactly. So that they open one for you. So, yes, you work a lot, but you work even more when you have to knock on doors, when you have to do auditions,

and it's trial and error. Out of 100, one is going to hit, and it may be that next time it's not 100, it's 75. And it's not 75 anymore, it's going to be 50. And then 25, and then you go little by little. And it's not...

Don't despair.

And while you're at it, let's see how I do in the edit to see if I stay with the scenes I did.

How many do you leave up? I mean, I think it's too much for you. Oh, look, I'm talking about Rebel Moon.

It happened to me. Rebel Moon, talking about... Yes.

Yes, the thing is...

Yes, it happened to me.

I drove six ships, I don't drive any more.

Did it happen to you that you got cut?

Yes, yes, yes, they cut, they cut a lot of things, but I think it worked very well. I mean, it was... Did they cut you out? Yes, they cut a lot of things, but I think it worked out really well. I mean, when I saw it, I was like, yes. The story became more compact. It worked. I understood it.

They told you about Wasabu, and you were like, I can't believe it. It came out in Rebelmode.

In Rebelmode.

But yes.

Also another huge production. It's weird that you get to a set and something surprises you. You're used to it.

Yes, you're cured of fear. But in Rebel Moon, for example, you'd get to the forum and the whole forum was green. It was like being immersed in a green egg. And I remember I was telling Ed Skrein, I was saying, how do you imagine the set?

How will it be? So we started to look at the floor, to see the frames, and we said, well, how will it be? How difficult it is to get on the paper when you have everything, just green, right?

It's like those of Jurassic Park at the beginning that I was telling Spielberg, scream, scream like crazy. You have to imagine that you are breathing the breath of a tyrannosaur. In the performance, the thin line is between being incredible or giving a hard time. They pay you for the attempt.

It's like Evil Cannibal.

Now with all the pokeyanchis and such, the context where it originates, you have to be a Mexican from the 50s. They didn't speak like they do now.

A baker from the Salto de la Tuxpana.

Yes.

He had certain physical characteristics, he had a specific accent. The Salto de la Tuxpana, in the book of Barwengoitia, is, let's say, rather, Plan de Abajo is the state of Guanajuato, which was where the Baladro sisters lived,

and Mezcala is the state of Jalisco. So, in that confluence, between those coming and going, it was where this universe was located, which is inspired by the Pukianchi, which were just from Guanajuato. But if there's a tone,

if there's a baker from the Tuxpan Salt, it's not going to be like that. You're not giving me references. No, well, from what also... From one's... Before I said...

But that's for the accent. No, no, no, but before I said, for the accent. No, no, no, but before I used to say to the characters, I want you to stay away from me completely. And I don't think so. I think the point is to try to bring it as close as possible to you.

Because in the end, you're the one who's going to give him that truth. You give him that truth. So before I imagined it and I made up a story and said this and the other. But then when you read and try to incorporate it more into you. I don't know if I'm going too far.

Yes, of course. I'm not like that with the masterclass because we just have the opportunity to go out and do a project together with Carlos Santos.

I saw it in the script you just wrote. Yes, and now that you're doing this, I'm like, write it down, write it down, Slobo. Mental note. The casting, I'm there.

Well, what are you doing?

Oh, no, for God's sake.

It would be an honor. We would put you first, like us as kids. Special participation.

Come on, not all of you.

Now yes.

Of course, there's the Miguel Angel Fox terminal.

Look, of course. And you're going to Pumas too. I'm going to Pumas. Just like Ricardo.

You're going. And if you follow him? You've stopped it.

No, no, no. If I follow him, well, right now...

No, of course.

It's not the best time to be... My youngest son, Nicolas, calls me. He says, I have news for you. And he's having breakfast.

Here it is.

Wait.

With his shirt.

You'll see.

No, but talk, talk.

You sometimes don't know if you're going to fart.

No, no, it's... I don't know if he's going to fart or not. He's paying attention. He's going to America.

Wow, he's going to America. He's going to America.

No, no. That's why there was silence, because of the attention

that was going to come to this answer.

Wait a minute.

It's the worst nightmare.

Where they ask you for the perfume of America.

This is the best gift.

Let's see. Thank you, dad. I'm going to give you the Pumas. This is the best gift.

Let's see.

Thank you, dad, for the tickets to the Believer Tour.

Oh, man, that's amazing. As a dad, it's the Achilles' heel. It's the best.

But the meet and greet with Henry Martin, no!

I'm not going to support you in America.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I heard you've participated in dubbing with various characters. Among the most prominent characters is Crypto, the super dog, Guy in the Crudes, Yoga in the Knights of the Zodiac, Chris and Mac in the movie Pato's.

So you also dub for Fiery Day, dude.

Yes.

At what point do you have time for that? way Grandes maestros del doblaje aquí en México yo cabez que voy a hacer doblaje yo sigo las direcciones porque sea pues si pude haber hecho algunos pero acá en México No, no mames si el México está bien cabrón grandes de los del hate que nos cayó también cuando hicimos el nuestro por eso nos preparamos porque nos cayó previo a ya que lo hicimos afortunadamente como que nos ganamos el a por lo menos y lo hicieron chido So that we came up with a plan it was... Xochitl Galvez Xochitl Galvez?

No, not Galvez I'm going to teach you how to do it!

Lower your arms! How do you do it?

I was the duck, Lucas!

With Xochitl

With the glasses We send you a big hug, Xochitl Sorry, Xochitl I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. We were like, we came with all the equipment, and if we need to do 45, we'll do 45. We understand perfectly that... We didn't come with the Star Talent plan, that will screw you up because you think you deserve this place. On the contrary, we are very grateful to be able to make a small participation.

The day my son asks me to dub something, I'm going to threaten threaten you with studies.

For example, I had the last one with Miyazaki. With El Niño y la Garza. That too, what a pain to have that on your checklist. well, maybe this one is.

And I went with Iku, and I said, maybe this is the one. I went with Iku and I said, Hey Iku, do you know who is... Sorry, I'm coming to you. I said, hey Iku, do you know who is the one who brought the movie? He said, who brought the movie? We went and knocked on the door. I said, I would like to audition.

No, Poncho, how can you think? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I wanted to do the test, and I stayed. But it was the knocking on the door. And I was dying to do it.

It's that, I mean, someone in your position you could think, no, let them come to me. No, no, no. But the key is to be knocking and knocking and knocking on doors.

No, no, no. This thing, and I think in life, in general, is to keep knocking on doors. Because when you think you're Juan Camanella,

that's when everything goes down.

You're too cool, man. I feel like you're hiding something. You're laundering money.

You're a great guy, man.

I told him yesterday that he's a saint.

A saint.

A saint.

You and I used to go to the same gym, right?

We used to go to the same gym, right? We went to the same gym. I'm glad I never said I was going to go so I wouldn't look bad. You were always a good man.

This is your moment, I told you you were going to send a lot of people.

I told them I was going to my gym, you idiot!

But what they didn't believe was that you were going to the gym.

I would have told them I found it at McDonald's. You were a great guy. I remember that we all said in the gym, he's a great guy, he has to launder money. Do we have anything else, Miguel Rui, about Datos?

Not about Datos.

National Dog Day.

We can also say that today was the day... How weird do you consider yourself?

Do you have pets? It's an squirrel, a rooster. A squirrel. I'm shocked that the squirrel still comes back saying, yes, I'm from this house.

I would think that the squirrel goes to the forest and...

Yes, here they give me nuts.

Every day at 8.

I remember when we had a rooster, because my mother is from Zacatecas, then she said, damn it, we're not going to have a dog or a cat, a rooster. And the neighbors hated us because at 5 in the morning, the fucking rooster...

To be honest, we weren't worthy of their devotion. I, now that I stay... My wife is from Oaxaca, from Guayapam. So, when I stay there, it's incredible the nature and the zero noise, and the comparison with the chaos of the city, the we keep lost. Clackson's illustrates how did he was asking us? Yeah, yeah. The repenting look at the scooch.

I'm a burrow.

I'm a man.

I'm a man.

I'm a man. I'm a man. And they say it's normal for him to wake up like that. Look. What a shit, right?

He grew up with roosters in that farm.

But that's crazy, right? The contrast of the city to...

They're raping a donkey, right?

Raping a donkey, no way.

Like the day of Colima, we did a date in Colima a while ago and we stayed in an Airbnb in the middle of the jungle. And just him and another comedian that was invited, Mau, got up like an angry mom that her kids arrived really late because they said, no way, it's 5 in, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. And they don't sell you the experience to relax, right?

They don't tell you that's how you do the Cezonte Colimense, right?

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.

Four stars, I didn't sleep.

Since we got here and he said,

know the 32 species that are there, I'm gonna be a little bit of a No mamon, but in your camper I can't miss this No, no, no

How Chris, I'm gonna unmask you You're a very good agent

Not even like a thing that you ask that they say how good people you ask

I ask food for everyone

I only ask that my food

is given to someone who needs it more

It's like the Keanu Reeves of Mexico.

Yes, you are our Keanu Reeves.

You are our Keanu Reeves, man.

It's true.

Once I remember that I went to a... Ah, I went to a thing in Brazil, the Comic Con Experience. And I remember that we got to the dressing room and the producer came and said, experience. Oh, for a message. Refresco. Refresco.

You don't want anything else? What do you mean by refresco, Poncho?

No, really.

Water, fruit, does anyone want anything?

Water, water, that's it.

And then he left like...

How weird is that?

It happens with two cosplayers.

Poncho, are you sure?

Are you sure? What? That's weird. It happens with two cosplayers. Eight, for sure. For sure.

Really.

Not only if you see Abel and Beto for a photo, but...

Put your perfume on for my kid.

Oh, well.

Hey, and has the opposite happened to you, without saying names so as not to compromise you, but that you have fallen into an idol in that sense?

Of, oh, this person... I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say,

I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, Madrid This is when the top top Repentance

And in the city of the architect No, you're looking like in the kid, you know, what else can we have to cover? Panic, it's a ban a charlizean in canoes Contrando Lilo Negro, they're absolutely nada. No, They're going to laugh and understand that we're not finding the black thread of anything. Our profession is to have fun. For people to have fun. And that's it.

The less tension is generated in the set... And less pretension. Because I think that when you go with that pretension, you don't have fun, and it becomes a strange thing.

Yes, I've seen so many horror stories like Don't yell at me, I work for James Cameron or this guy yelled at me and spat at me. Daniel Sosa told us.

Whenever I'm in makeup, I always tell them who has been the worst, tell me who has been the worst. And they always have a good laugh.

Tony Dino.

That's not true.

No, it's not true. I enjoy the privilege that the only time I interacted with him was because he went to an open in La Condesa and there I was. And when he came back he told me, very funny. And I said, no, I'm going to wash this arm.

It's very typical of Tony, it's very typical of Tony.

That he's... a great guy.

I said, nice to meet you.

And he left.

But as a rockstar, you know, Rory is also a collaborator and friend of ours. There he is, eating Camote Mel. And then as a rockstar, you as a fan, you even appreciate that the rockstar sent you to hell.

Wow, he spit on me! The one from Babasonic sent you to hell.

The one from Babasonic sent you to hell? Yes. And you still admire him a lot?

Yes, obviously.

Now more!

Now more!

How do you handle all that?

You know, people come up to you and say, Poncho, say hi to my grandmother, she loves you.

Well, I've always said that he's cool. And also, how much does he drink? ¿Cuánto te toma? ¡Es un tipazo! ¡No, de verdad! ¡No, no, no! ¡No, en serio!

¡Por Dios!

¡Es en serio!

Voy a volver a poner mi postre de Miguel.

A ver, ¿cuánto de verdad te toma? Tienes toda la razón. ¿Cuánto te toma? Sí, sí, claro, and that's it. It takes you less time to take a picture of you and make him happy, and that's it. Let's see, it's practicality too.

Yes, yes, yes, of course. You even save yourself time. The people who come up to of, there's Poncho, and you start to get the shape. No, not for me. Really, really, really. The other time I went to Six Flags with my kids. And I think it also has to do with what you have in your head.

If you say, don't think about a purple elephant, what's going to happen? Exactly. and nothing happens. Well, I don't know. That's what happens to me. I couldn't believe that he could go out on the street normally and not everyone was saying,

It's the murderer!

I want to think that later you have to...

In the event it happens.

The effect dominates, it overwhelms, that is, suddenly a person, and then you do three, four, five, and then... One, one, one, one, one. And then the lady was hugging you, and you take it and you say, who are you?

Yes.

Oh, ma'am!

Ma'am.

You didn't even know, ma'am.

The other time, the other time they told me,

take a picture.

You do it so well, Nandito.

What a bitch. Then also the other time, well, no, Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!

Wow!

Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

No, no. Wow. Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. For example, with Joaquin, we suddenly wrote to each other. With Luis, Luis has become a very good friend, a person I love a lot. And, um...

And Luis.

My children, and that's it.

Stop it. That's how it is. When you're working a lot, well, yeah. No, but there are people I love a lot. For example, the rebels too. I'm a no mucho pussy. Got away. No, pero I I I gente que quiero mucho por ejemplo de de los rebeldes también tienen tienen en el chat de los seis Es ya no existen orita ya

No, si escribimos que tocó que te saca si vieron como te sacaron

Que mierda no aguanta nada

I don't they watch you said you feel No aguantan nada. We were there for four years, from 2004 to 2008. And the funniest thing is that it was about to be canceled because Televisa didn't think it would do well. So the original project is an Argentine project.

Yes, yes.

And they had to pay the rights, like the rights to exploit the franchise, and they were about to not pay them and make us rebel.

How is it in the future, right? Damn project. But now that you say 4 years, those were 4 very intense years. I would have thought in my head that they are more. You and I have been almost 7, dude.

Almost 7. Well, only 4.

No, Pocha, really, what a fucking pleasure to have you here, dude.

Really, how incredible. It's a pleasure to have you here. It's an incredible dream come true. I mean, we admire you a lot. You're like a Mexican. You put the flag up. You were on our list of Infinity Stones, the Avengers. Then our manager came in and said, which one would be your top 5? And you were always in that top 5.

Yes, really.

Eugenio was there, who we could also meet. You're still Guillermo.

Guillermo del Toro, please.

Ah, it's San Guillermo del Toro.

No, but really, how incredible. How cool that you took that path, that you're doing so well in such a competitive industry, so fought, so jealous. That you entered and entered that way. How cool, man. Congratulations. I'm really proud of you.

Thank you for the invitation.

Thank you for... I had an amazing time. Thank you very much. I really hope it repeats. And I also congratulate you for the success you are having because you are breaking it. As I had already told you, I think you are going to Argentina,

you are in Canada. You did it with boxing... It was something... It's historical. I mean, they're really revolutionizing the way we see content now. I mean, everything is changing. So, congratulations.

Thank you very much. It's your home whenever you want. Congratulations. Good luck tomorrow. Starting tomorrow with the Junkhead. Thank you very much. A lot of shit. I'm gonna go ahead and say goodbye. I'm gonna go ahead and say goodbye. I'm gonna go ahead and say goodbye. I'm gonna go ahead and say goodbye.

I'm gonna go ahead and say goodbye. I'm gonna go ahead and say goodbye.

I'm gonna go It was September 10th, guys! You can even ask them to google things. And we didn't remove the part where we were waiting for the googling. We left the part where we were like this.

That one! That's the third photo!

That one, look! No, the one next to it.

Which one do you like?

The other one.

That one.

Don't you feel a little more relaxed? No, yes, yes, yes. It's something else. It's something else.

It's something else.

That's cool, man.

Thank you for coming. Keep up the success.

Thank you, really.

Thank you. I hope you enjoyed this great episode. Thank you. It's not necessary to say it. We love you a lot. Have a great week.

I send you a kiss wherever you want. I send you a kiss wherever you want.

Goodbye, production.