BARU 3 HARI KERJA FANDI DI TUNTUT HUKUMAN M*-TI⁉️ SEMUA INI HANYA JEBAKAN‼️

Hit her! Hit her!

The law in Indonesia is to hit people!

I'm not going to die!

I'm not going to die!

If my daughter is going to be punished, I'm not going to change it.

I'm not willing to do it. I'm sincere.

Do you want to change your position?

I'm sincere, sir.

She's my wife, sir. I'm willing. You want to replace your son? I'm sincere, sir. I'm more than willing to do it. If it's a criminal case, I'll take the blame.

I swear to God.

So, we have Mrs. Nirwana, Mr. Sulaiman, and Mr. Bakyar Batubara from the lawyer team. Lawyer team. About the case of ABK Fandi, which was caught red-handed. Caught red-handed, carrying 2 tons of illegal goods.

Was it really caught red-handed? Yes, it was. Was it recorded? No, it wasn't. It wasn't recorded, but the court found it was caught red-handed? After the ship was caught? After the boat sailed,

then in the middle of the sea, there was a boat, close to their boat, Pandi CS. After there was communication on this close boat,

on this Pandi CS boat, Pandi and Kawat Kawan so they were moved to the ship, and the boxes were moved which were suspected to contain illegal goods then after a few hours they sailed again

then they were suspected by the ship of Bia Cukai and BHN Okay, so it was already arrested? Yes, according to their testimony, there was already a meeting before the arrest Okay, from the arrest team, so the arrest was already scheduled

to be controlled by the ship with Fandi inside Yes, that ship

right, so Fandi's ship is the Indonesian flag or Thai flag?

Thai flag Thai flag, so Fandi works at a Thai company okay, let's clear that first so, does your mother know that you work in a Thai ship?

Yes, she does.

She asked for your permission?

Yes.

What did she say at that time? She got a call from an agent. An offer from an agent to sail in a Thai ship. Okay, she asked a volunteer. Yes, that's why he was happy to tell me that he got a call from a Thai ship.

But before that, what did you do? I was a sailor. Oh, you were a sailor at sea.

Yes, I was a sailor at the Brandan milk factory. Okay, what was your job before that? I was also a security guard. Oh, so you were in the Navy. Yes. Why did you choose to work in the Thai ship at that time?

Because I was already a woman. I was in the milk factory and I just graduated. I was a year off and I joined the Navy

with my father. Oh, your father was also a sailor, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah there was a year in the milk station there was a year in the milk station, I got a call again in the new cargo ship the cargo ship was also about 2 months from the new cargo ship, 2 months, I got a call from Thailand

and there must be a certain motivation in the end to take it must be from the salary what is it?

that's the it from the salary? Yes. What was it? That was the salary. In the milk factory, the salary was 2.5 million. Okay. In the fish factory, the salary was 5 million. 5 million.

In Thailand, it was offered 2,000 dollars.

2,000 dollars, so it's about 35 million. 32.

32 million.

In one month One month Why not?

Yes

Okay, at that time, was it official from the agent or not?

Official

Official?

Yes, using a contract

Using a contract

Yes, the contract work letter, about 6 months

6 months, okay

When did he start working there? Work, after Eid

After Eid, in May

May

Yes

May, May, 2025. He was working, no problem. He contacted me.

How many times did he contact you in a month? He hasn't worked for a month.

Not a month?

Not yet, around 4-3 days.

4-3 days?

Arrested.

Arrested? Yes. When he was arrested, 3 days. 4 days, 3 days? Arrested.

Arrested? Yes. When he was arrested, you knew, and your father knew, where from? From his friend, his senior brother.

The one on the ship?

No, the one on the milk stand, on vacation at his house. He got a shipment too, the arrest of Pandi. So his senior brother told us as parents. We found out there at 11 o'clock in the evening.

Okay, did he get that information from social media or from?

From friends, also a messenger.

Send, send.

Send, send.

There was an arrest.

There was Pandi in that ship.

There was Pandi in that ship.

There was an arrest of the Thai ship. Pandi was in there. Look at me. the I asked him, do you know where he's from? He said, he's from here. Can you show me his house? I came to him with a strong heart. It's true.

It's true?

Yes, it's not a lie. It's not edited. It's not someone trying to bully us. It's true, he was arrested. edit edit and the horror of my last guitar guitar yeah it'll have a moment to do any data tank up okay it'd confirm a see all the Seattle dirty tomato dirty tomato yeah come on come on see and I say yeah so tell me to a

human human who do come on I said tell me to a here now I'm a new do a to Mr. Salman Sirait's house. Mr. Salman Sirait for legal aid? Yes.

Okay, with his lawyer team.

Yes.

And then, after that, did he go to Fandi's place to get arrested or what?

We were told by Mr. Salman to first see the process. Okay. How it was. Okay. After the arrest, maybe a few weeks, the goods were destroyed.

The goods were ready to be destroyed. One day, two days later, it was brought directly to Jakarta.

So the evidence was destroyed?

In Batam.

Oh, in Batam. After that, Fandi?

It was brought to Jakarta. It was interrogated by the BNN. For four months.

For four months? Yes. From the information that was obtained for 4 months, what did you get from BNN or other sources? I don't know. No?

No, because our lawyers didn't go there.

From the lawyers team? At that time, we were not lawyers.

Oh, not yet?

Maybe there was coordination with lawyers from BNN. The show, in the sense. Oh, the show from BNN for the needs of the elderly? Not the needs of Terdakwa. Yes, Fandi. He had to be accompanied because the threat of punishment was high, more than 5 years.

Okay. It was mandatory, right? So, she was just pointed out. She was pointed out by the prosecutor. Okay. The lawyer who was pointed out, did he communicate with his mother?

No, he didn't. He didn't communicate with her?

No.

Okay. After that, that's why you asked for help about Masyir Rahim. Yes. Yeah, I'm gonna give a public a see now something's Karen. I'm gonna team lawyer. Send it either that but in for my see a Papa Settler, I'm Boulan sembilan. Yeah, I'm going to be on Kamari Barula. Paxi right and kawan-kawan darim and any boy in a bop I need a tongue kabata. Yeah, I did situla baru The tanda tangani was a untumbo men dumping is he the court has given the authority to accompany Pandi

I understand. How long have you been handling the case? Since September until now Okay, so it's been quite a while Is there any information that you got? If we look at the results From the facts and so on

After the trial, we saw that this Pande, from our eyes, the results of the facts, he was trapped, he was lied to. Why do we say that? First, we see the contract, it's the same as the N.P. North Star, the cargo ship. Okay, the name of the ship? N.P. North Star, North Star Ship, Cargo Ship Okay, the name of the ship? MP North Star MP North Star

MP or MP? MP, okay, then? Then, after it was okay earlier, the contract was lifted from Medan to Thailand, to Bangkok

Okay, the ship was lifted, right? No, no, the ship was there Oh, Fandi, Fandi. Fandi and her friends. Her friends left. There were four people. Okay, she went to Thailand. Thailand, there were 10 days people stayed there before sailing. Okay, okay. This sailing means on the cargo ship, right? Right, the NP earlier. Yes, it turns out that the ship is not based in the port, in the middle of the sea okay, he sailed to the middle of the sea yes, they went to the middle of the sea to move to the ship

oh, so he didn't join the ship from the beginning? no, he just received the contract from the beginning with that ship? No. He just retrieved it, sir. Okay. Okay, so let's try to catch it, so the audience can understand.

The agreement is the ship is a cargo ship. Yes. I arrived at the Thai hotel, waited 10 days. So I asked my son, why haven't we been on board yet, Cap? The ship is still docked in Batam, the boss said, not ready yet. This Thai ship? Yes, this cargo ship is the one that our son wants to board. Yes, this Thai cargo ship.

So we stayed here for a while while waiting for this ship to be ready. So somehow we waited until 10 days. So we left, he said. Maybe it was taken care of from 10 days. So we left. We were told to bring the boat to Malaysia. I asked my son, when are we leaving? He said, we might leave at night.

We were told to bring a cargo ship. Why? Because the ship was not ready. So the boss said, bring the cargo ship first, later the tanker ship is ready, we will go once, then the cargo ship is ready, then we move to the cargo ship. While the cargo ship is not ready,

we were told by the boss to bring the tanker ship. That's That's why we got on the tanker.

Okay. Who was the captain?

The same person from Medan. So, he was in the same group? Yes, in the same group as our son. We left the house together. So, this captain was also arrested? Yes, all of them.

How many people were arrested? Six people. Two from Thailand.

Two from Thailand.

Four from Indonesia. How many people are there in total? 6 people. 2 Thai people. 2 Thai people. 4 people.

4 people.

4 Indonesians.

Okay. Now we go back to the point of the problem. So, the tanker ship that was finally boarded, it was boarding using a speedboat. Yes, speedboat.

Okay.

This is a tanker ship.

What is the name of the tanker ship? Sea Dragon. Sea Dragon the agreement with

the ship

North Star so there are 2 ships so they go up to the Sea Dragon so when they go up to the Sea Dragon then shortly after they are caught

not yet after they go up to the ship and his friends to the dragon speed they were the cargo ship earlier, so the captain said he was docking yes, so get on here first Panti actually asked why we moved to the dragon

this is our agreement in North Sud. Why did we move to Tenker? Is that a problem? No, this is still a group. It's still a company. Okay.

We are now being told to get oil. Bring oil. Tenker is not a tanker, sir. A tanker ship that can fill oil to the ship oh yeah, like fuel fuel yes

that's a Thai ship too?

yes

one group

one boss, another ship

finally they boarded the ship yes, they boarded the ship before they boarded the ship actually, from the ship of dragon 6 people boarded the ship and the 6 people boarded the ship oh, they boarded the ship to speed boat

yes, they boarded the ship and changed their position yes, they changed their position if the captain boarded the ship, the captain also boarded the ship if the captain boarded the ship, the captain also the ship the captain of the ship according to the what is it called?

the respective departments so it's a trade yes, trade

it's done

then? then, they sailed they were going to get oil they were going to get oil from the west to the north but it turns out But after they sailed,

it wasn't oil, it was a ship. It was a small fishing boat. In the middle of the night, they approached the ship of Orang Sipandi and gave it a signal light. The tanker ship?

No. Yes, they approached this tanker ship? no, not that yes, the one that connects to the tanker ship using the lamp and here also using the lamp

welcoming and then give the code the code of this small ship that's the money 10 10 thousand Myanmar

In Lamina Ting, that's what was shown Then the one who understood, there was one of the Thai citizens who understood It was matched, matched, deal

Then moved the cargo to the Orisipan

Oh they play code?

Yes

Who is the person who gave the code from the tanker ship? The Thai citizen, the one person. One person, was he also arrested? Yes, the same.

Before Orang Sipandi boarded this tanker ship, the Thai people were already two people in the ship. He didn't get off. Yes, so the Thai people, the Thai people knew Thai language and they were the ones who contacted the ship. The fishing boat. Yes, the people who gave the language.

They coded it.

So, the people of Indonesia didn't know the language, even though they were in the captain's seat. There was only one person who knew Thai language. What was it, Pung?

Chip. Chip. The officer. Chip knew Thai language. 10 Thailand. According to Mr. Padi and Mr. Cipi, they are Thai. Thai. They are coding. Because the language is Thai. The code is Myanmar currency. 10,000 rupiah in Laminarting.

That's what it shows. The language in the boxes is the thing.

What do you mean?

The one that is given the code, the one in the boxes, it was the thing, the money that was given in the box was the thing. Oh, so the money money for the boat? Is it in the tanker or the boat? In the boat... At first, it was in the boat...

What is it called? The one that is docked. Oh, in the sailing boat. Okay.

So, in the sailing boat, there is money for the boat. Yes, and also in the boxes. The prohibited items.

Okay. So, there is money

and there are prohibited items.

Like that, right? Yes. Not that I'm straight. Yes, yes. Oh my God. Yes, so that people understand, sir. From the ship that was docked, they were given 10 thousand, what was the name of it?

Myanmar. 10 thousand Myanmar.

Fishermen's ship, right?

Yes. In the ship, was a Thai citizen. He understood the codes. Because he also, this Thai, has contact to the land. Yes, to the one who has the goods.

Okay.

His name is Tanjen. Or Jackie Tan.

Okay.

Thai people?

Yes. Maybe they have communicated. Indeed there was a phone call, said Pandi. But he didn't understand the language, after he is ready to call, then this person will move, okay, that means the code is where he tells that I am the right person,

yes, yes, this thing is here, the thing is the forbidden item, at that time I didn't know, sir, it was prohibited. After now, there are 2 kilos, right? 2 tons. Then there is also money. In what is there? There is no money. That code is only for codes so that it can be moved, maybe. If our mind is only prohibited items. It's impossible if we think about it. So it's just a thing. The goods are going up to the tanker.

Who's going up? It's different. There are five people. The captain asked for help. Including Pandi. So it's like a mess.

It's different. Some are in the engine room. So it's a mess. People in the engine room. So, people in the tanker were all over the place. People from Thailand, Indonesia, all helped. There were a lot of things. Yes, there were 67 boxes.

It was done. What happened after that? After that, before the trial, I had asked I had asked the chief officer, what is this? He said, the boss said it was money from you. Don't tell me the bomb is dangerous. I said.

Okay. He meant the bomb was illegal. Oh, the bomb means Fandi is a forbidden item oh, so Fandi has been suspicious yes, from the beginning she was suspicious from the ship's movement she was suspicious

but in the middle of the sea, sir, it's impossible for her to do anything she can't go back

okay

ah

Fandi's suspicion must have been experienced or there was previous information because it was in the sea area where Fandi had heard stories that there could be transactions here it's impossible to be suspected suddenly

if there is no information that he had heard before that there is a condition like this in the middle of the sea that there could be illegal goods and all kinds am I wrong here? if his suspicion is clear he has been suspicious from the beginning the Maybe, maybe, Fandi has known about things or indications like this Maybe she heard it from her friends

Maybe she felt why she went up to the sea Maybe that's one of the questions Because if we catch it, when there is a suspicion like that She once got information like that and she didn't want to be there I mean, she's like that, right? And she was answered that this is not forbidden Yes, yes Okay, that's what he said, right? And he was told that this was not forbidden.

Yes, yes. Okay, that's it. After that? After that, that night, the next morning he met the captain again. Captain, what was that thing? We'll be in danger if it's not a halal item.

He was, what, angry? He was angry, sir. if it's not a halal item he's a mess

he's a mess but because of halal, the captain is above this captain is the Indonesian person? yes the captain is Hasyolat Syabasir the chief officer is Richard Tambunan

then the Thai person is Wirafat the head of the machine. One more, the office boy. Like the office boy, his brother, the captain's brother. What did the captain answer?

The captain's answer was the same. What was it? He said it was gold and money. Just like that?

Yes. Okay.

Then? Then, he said, if not, we'll open it. He said, later, he'll explain it to us.

He said, he wanted to check. Check. We can't check it. There's no guarantee that we'll open it. Said the captain.

Okay. I'm sorry, I want to ask. If the force is inside the ship, who is the authority? Captain and the chief officer and the chief officer, so it's not the authority of Fandi, right? Yes, but because of his suspicion earlier, sir, if it's illegal, don't let it all get involved can get everything Fandi's mind is pure

okay, what year are you? 24 sir 24 25 okay, next, then where did the ship go? After that, the ship moved.

Then, shortly after, the water entered, according to them, the treaty, people were in the international zone.

Okay.

Previously, when the shipment was in which zone?

Still in Thailand.

In Thailand. Okay. Then they moved to the international area. International, according to them. According to them. Why can you say it was international? Because, according to them, the investigators,

before they were arrested, they were told to be handcuffed by the TNI Navy. Oh, there was a ship? Yes, there was a TNI Navy ship. The Indonesian flag? Yes, the Indonesian flag. Oh, they were handcuffed?

Yes. Okay. I remember, TNI. I know, if. If TNI, I know that person. Okay. You were arrested after it can be confirmed that it is our territory, Indonesia, including BK and BN. Arrested? Yes, they were told to stop.

They got on. Yes, the BK were told to move to the Beacukai ship. Okay, they were told to move to the ship. There was only one ship, right? Yes, the sea-level tanker. Then, the Beacukai ship also joined.

Oh, there were two ships? Yes, two ships. There was the Beacukai ship, and there was the sea-level tanker, right? Yes. there is a sea force ship, right? So all the people in the tanker ship were told to move to the ship Beacukay This ship was brought to Tanjung Uncang, Batam

Actually, according to the information, it was still the Karimun Sea Karimun Ana And this Pandi, stated in the hearing, that their position at that time, at the PPD, still looked like Malaysia,

the beach of Malaysia. Why? Because it clearly looked like, what is it called, ships docking there. In other words, if they jump, jump to the sea

they can still cross, rather than to the Karimun that makes the narration that the capture is not in accordance with the SOP according to them, that's it the point is

the capture has already happened the ship was sent to Tanjung Uncang Batam

Batam

for exploration That's when the boxes were found the contents of the box It was witnessed by the apparatus at that time Lura, RTRW Complete, that means it's a fact okay, it's done

brought, this is 6 people, it means yes, 6 people interrogated brought to Jakarta BNN did an interrogation when interrogated

was it found who do you want to send it to in Indonesia no, because their goal is that if the information is received, Mr. Dewak, we want to go to the Philippines, others also say they want to go to the Philippines, not to Indonesia, not to Indonesia, so it means that those who accept the Philippines should

be like that, okay, now I'm going to Mrs. Bang. Now, when it finally happened and the trial process was underway, what was the most surprising part? The claim from the court or the facts in the trial?

The claim from the court.

What was it?

The claim was the death penalty. Surprised? Yes, forced to serve my sentence. Surprised? Yes, I refused.

Why did you refuse?

Because, in my opinion, as a mother, with my son's confession, he said he didn't know. That's why I refused. That's why I asked for justice from the President,

the Minister, with the minister, with the council. Anyone can help my son. So I didn't accept it. I said, I don't have the heart to tolerate his actions, to punish my son, to demand his death. Because the evidence was no evidence against him.

We had enough evidence. That's what made me sure my son was not guilty.

Okay.

So, how many children does Fandi have?

The first child.

Not the only one, right?

No, the only child. He's the first child, the oldest.

Okay.

What is Fandi like, on a daily basis? On a daily basis, he's the first and the oldest. What is Fandi like in daily life?

He is a good boy.

What kind of a good boy?

He is sociable and he is close to his friends. He never makes his parents upset. He never gets involved with the misbehaviour of teenagers. Did you ever see any signs of Fandi getting involved with the wrongdoers and using illegal things? No, never. How about you? Do you often see Fandi? After Maghrib prayer, he would go to the mosque to pray. After the prayer, he would go home and he was a member of the RM.

He was a member of the RM. He was a good person. He didn't lie to anyone. He would do whatever his parents told him to do. He would help his mother to catch fish. We also gave him some fish.

He never refused to help me with the fishing. If his mother or I asked him to help, he would do it right away. I was confused. Why did he have to be with a sailor? I was being chased by the one who owns the ship. My son is like that. I was confused.

I didn't know anything about my son. I was being chased by this son. I didn't accept it. So, Fandi is a non-emotional child? Or more patient? Or is he the emotional type?

He's very patient. He's very patient?

He's also a student of school.

He's also a student of school. Okay. I was patient. You were patient? I was also in school. So, your son is a calm boy. Yes. Have you met Fandi?

Yes.

Where did you meet her for the first time?

Here.

In Jakarta?

No, not in Jakarta. We met in Batam. In Batam. What did Fandi say to you? When Fandi met me, she cried. She cried and said, I asked, how are you?

Are you involved? She said, no. She said, the safe was clean. It was not used. So, she knew that the thing was there. She knew where it was.

She knew where it was. After the arrest. After the arrest He said, after the arrest. After the arrest. So, before the arrest, how did the goods get in? The goods got in,

I helped. How did I help? I was told by the captain to lift the goods. So, I helped. I helped, it was the captain's order. We were working. I helped him, it was under the command of the captain. We were working.

In the help, you told your friends, when you lifted the box, you didn't feel good. Ah, this is not right. You said that. He was angry, you were angry, he said.

What is it? I'm not suspicious of this thing. Why? Yes, lift it. I'm not suspicious of this thing. Why? He said, pick it up. I said, are you not suspicious? He said, no, no, this is a bomb.

This bomb means forbidden item?

He said, no, no, this is a bomb. I said, are you not suspicious? He said, yes, Yandi. Can you go there, Yandi? He said, yes, Bang. It's not correct anymore. Lift it up.

The box is big. That's why he suspected it was there. The box is big and heavy.

What kind of box?

Like a parcel box?

No, bigger. Like this.

Like an Indonesian box? No, like this. Oh, bigger and heavier? Heavier. So, he was suspicious of the location. Yeah, and Brad Brad young cut me a secret or a star Tiga pull on a Macata nyang berarti kecurigaan a team will be locale Did you don't cut me a star? Okay, daddy. We got you Riga. Yeah. Yeah, I got a cat. I am I am yeah, I got a nyang

Don't run to Riga boom. Yeah, I got a nyang. Hmmtain, what's in the bag? Let's check it out, Captain. Don't let it be a bomb. As explained earlier. Don't let it be a bomb. No, it's money and gold. If it's money and gold, Captain,

why did you put it in the room of the regiment? The regiment is an oil room.

Oh, you put it in the oil room.

Yes, part of it. So the captain said, so it's safe, said the boss. So it's safe. When my son told the captain, he was silent. He couldn't do anything? He couldn't do anything.

He said, I'm just working. Working on the captain's order. So the younger brother said, why don't you check? Why did you open it? That's not our property.

Yes, she could be wrong later.

That's not our property. That's not our job. Our part is the engine. If only you open it, there are two options. If you don't throw people into the sea, you'll be shot to death.

Yes, yes.

Because it's not in line with his obligation okay, did Fandi ever tell you where the goods were going to be sent?

I heard that the goods were going to be brought to the Philippines

Philippines?

yes

brought to the Philippines not to Indonesia not to Indonesia but when the ship was on its way to the Philippines I got a call

from the boss telling me to direct the boat to Aceh.

Okay.

To Aceh, he said, the captain didn't want to. The captain didn't want to go to Aceh.

He didn't want to.

He didn't want to. He said, why go to Aceh? What's in this ship? Nothing. Just go to Aceh. Said the Thai man

who was in this ship. So the captain didn't want to. He said, Pandi, because in the Aceh Sea there are dangerous people who can't be passed.

If we pass, we are clearly dead. So the captain didn't want to. a I asked him to go from Aceh to the south. Where to the south? Aceh is from... What is it called? The Indian Ocean?

Melaka?

No, no. So he wanted to go from the south to Java? To the Philippines? Yes, to go around like this. So he asked, Why do I have to go from there, say from there, in English or what,

if there is no dangerous item, from here is closer, closer, right? From Bawaino, like that. Okay. So the captain didn't know the story either. Yes, from, from, from,

I heard Pandi's story too.

From what people, their conversation, I think I also know. So who knows the item is actually inside the tanker?

Maybe the Thai people.

The Thai people. Because they had direct contact with... Two people who didn't get off the boat when the exchange happened. At the beginning, the six people who got off the boat were the two people who got off the boat. Were those people also in the trial?

Yes, they were. They were all arrested what is the explanation of the two people in court? I don't know either he said he didn't know he didn't know either, he said gold and money

because the boss said it was money and gold because why do you believe it's money and gold that's what was shown what was the metal earlier

the white thing the one that was laminated. Oh, so no one admitted it?

No one.

No one knew? And your son was there?

Yes.

Okay. Now the question is, with this condition, death penalty,

what else is on your mind? What's on my mind? My hope is to collapse. Collapse. My hope is to be dead. I don't have any hope for my child anymore. I said, it's enough for me.

My child, maybe, his fate. We are the people of Hawang. The Jaksa's demand is clear. There is no defense anymore. Right, sir? That's why I don't accept my son to be sentenced to death. So my lawyer said,

the lawyer said, be patient, ma'am. We still have more. The judge hasn't decided yet. Even though the judge hasn't decided yet, in my mind, the judge will follow the word of the judge.

Because, it's clear that the goods are not a little, two tons. So, I think, my son, there is no hope.

But God willing, with the power of our law, he still fought for my son. With my prayer, I ask for the President, the President, I also ask for his help to help my son, to free my son. I don't know anymore.

So, it's already in my son's head, it's definitely over here.

Yes.

It's already there, right?

Yes.

What about you?

Same.

It's already in your head?

Same.

It's already in your head, your son is done here. Why were you pessimistic at first? Because the amount of goods is two tons. Because the goods were so big, it was about 2 tons. Because the goods were about 2 tons. That's what made you pessimistic, right?

Yes.

Now, if Jaksa himself, during the trial, accused Fandi of what? Did the accused know or what? It was like their union, they were working together. Oh, Fandi was part of the union? yes so he knows

with the transfer of money from the captain to pandi it's around 8 million if we count it it's considered as money what is it called? money to know

it's like a jaksa it's like a jaksa but if we count it what is the name of the money? the money to pay the tax roughly, if the population of Jakarta is like that but if our population as a lawyer it's because it's his right as a worker. 8 million rupiah 8 million rupiah from

32 million more one month, if only 8 million that's also called cash bond first that's what is offered to bered to be left by the family. The rest will be calculated later.

It has nothing to do with the union. Even if it is included in the union, it is impossible for 8 million to be worth T. Maybe earlier, the Jaksa valued it was almost 4T or 5T, only 8 million went into the network.

So based on the proof of the transfer of 8 million to Fundy, Jaksa assumes that Fandi is part of Syndicate. That's what I think.

Yes.

That's what I think.

Not assuming again, that's one of his considerations.

Consideration.

Yes.

Proof of transfer of 8 million. It means that the delivery was involved because the delivery was paid.

It means that, right?

Okay. Does it make sense?

I don't. That's why my son was reb trial. He said, sir, that's not my money. It's my money from the captain's offer. The captain offered it, not me. The captain offered it. He wanted to borrow it.

He wanted to borrow it.

I said, yes, I want it. He offered it. It's as heavy as 8 million. So, the judge said, it's good, I haven't worked yet, I've got money,

I'll give it to my son. Sir, I'm in a position, I was offered 8 million, I'm working, my ship is sailing.

Okay.

That's also a cut salary.

Okay. 8 million. The same as the 2,000 dollars earlier. Did the captain explain that he offered it to Fadi? Yes, he admitted it. The captain is Indonesian?

He said he offered it. Why did he suddenly offer it? It's not just Pandia. Everyone.

Why did the captain offer it to everyone?

According to the rules of the sea, I asked, it's like that. Every time we sign a contract, we want to sail, the company must give us a loan, cut our salary. Because we sail, we sail, we don't have money to work for a month. So, our wife, we live there, what's the money?

Spending money, that's spending money. That's what I asked the students of the Academy. Oh, I'm not a one blanja itulah one blanja itulah young sayatanya sama anana playa ran Academy Oh, did he say belong to the plumber and gamble me my watch it

to happen amanya Bruce on my sleeping German while on the ground on the money in Gali history and mana udaya

history Angap-angap to leave a wife who already has a wife I understand Now, let's say the audience of this podcast the judge of this podcast what do you want to say to the judge first?

I hope to the judge please help me free my son

if my son.

If my son is not... If he is a mother's son, my son is not involved. He only works, purely works for his family, for his parents,

for his siblings, and for his future. Not to be involved in the Jacobite network. He knew he would never betray his parents. He knew how hard it was for his parents to manage the academy. It was a result of their hard work.

It was a result of their hard work to raise him. It was a result of their hard work to manage his siblings. That's why he would never betray his parents. I am the daughter of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son of the son our future, our pride, our family's pride. He is our only hope. Especially he is our eldest son, sir. So I don't want my son to be punished.

If my son is punished, I will replace him. I don't want, I don't want, I am sincere. I am the one who replaces the punishment of my son, the death penalty. Do you want to replace the position who replaced my son's death penalty. You want to replace your son's death penalty? I am sincere, sir. The important thing is that my son is not sentenced to death.

Because my son doesn't know. He is just working. For the sake of Allah, he is just working. He is sincere.

Fandi, did he ever lie to you?

She never lied. What can I lie about? She's working. She even works at a milk factory. She pays me 2.5 million rupiahs.

So you know about her financial situation?

Yes, I do.

Because I have her ATM. So you know your daughter very well. You're saying this not because you're defending the same as mine so you know your child very well you say this not because you defend the wrong child that's what you mean but because I know my child very well that's what you mean so if you are asked

if Fandi is sentenced to death are you ready to replace

I am ready

I am sincere in the afterlife to replace my child

okay

that doesn't mean that Fandi is wrong But because you are more willing to give up your life to replace Fandi

Yes

That's how you are What about you? It's the same, sir Rifa is my wife, who became a victim of the death penalty It's me, sir I am the one who

To compare so that She was taken away from me by the death penalty I am the one who is responsible for my son's death. I know that my son is not like that. He is like my son, he is trapped. So, if he is sentenced to death, he should replace me. He should replace me, not my wife. I am willing to be punished. I would rather die than to be punished. I am willing to die.

For God's sake, if the judge and the judge want me to die, I will take my life. For God's sake, I am willing to die if my son is guilty.

But if he is not guilty, I will release my son. There are many witnesses. I will take my life. They took my life. That's how I felt, sir. I was a father.

When you heard that Jaksa was demanding for death penalty, how did you feel?

I said, he was cruel. He didn't have a kind heart. Oh, that's what you saw? Yes, he was cruel. He didn't have a kind heart. He didn't have a pure heart. Oh, that's what you saw at that time? He was cruel. He didn't have a pure heart. He didn't have humanity. Okay.

Although maybe Jaksa was based on the evidence he got. Because this is still in his doubt.

But you already felt he was cruel.

Yes.

I said he was cruel. But were you hysterical during the trial? Yes.

Yes, I didn her I got three mana say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but really I believe I'm Saying got three mana. I had it until Matty Matty, no, I did not bursala. What do I have a Satyakati, they're gonna support a woman's image. I'm gonna come back and get anything on Kira-kira, but

Hatinu Rania I'm sure you'll watch it. What do you think we're talking about? Let's talk about Nurani's heart.

With Nurani's heart, I as a mother, yes.

If it's my children's fault, please release my son, sir. Release him. Because he is our only hope. He is our successor. He saved his siblings. There are still many who are in debt. His siblings are still in school. and I worked with all my heart, but maybe this is the fate of my life.

It turned out like this. I don't know what else to say. I don't know what to say. I hope that God will help my son and release him to the President of the Republic of Indonesia.

Anyone can help. If you can talk to Pandi, what would you like to say to your son?

Pandi, Pandi, inside, keep praying. Be patient. Don't think too much, be stressed, or whatever. Mom and dad are still fighting for justice for Pandi.

That's all.

Take care of your health.

Take care of your health.

Don't think too much.

Don't think too much. What else? Is that all you want to say to the audience?

I want to say that I pray, I do my prayers, I remember Allah.

That's all I want to say. That's all you want to say. If you can talk, who do you want to talk to? Today, for example, from everyone in this case, who do you want to talk to today? From everyone in this case, who do you want to talk to today?

The President. Mr. Prabowo. So you want to talk to the President? What do you want to say to him?

Him.

I ask the President, Mr. Prabowo, the Honorable President, I ask you to help me free my son. Only you can help my son. Only you can help me. We, the Indonesian people, save my son, sir.

Our son, our son.

Please, sir. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Mr. Perbowo Subianto That's all? You don't know what to say? I don't know what to say

Okay But if the facts of the trial are found to be evidence It indicates that Vandi is involved

You are sincere if she is finally punished If she is proven If she admits I am sincere But if she is not proven She he's being punished too, I'm not sincere.

Okay, both are fair. So that we can also be in it's already postponed? Yes, the agenda is already postponed. What day is it? The agenda is on March 5th. March, right? Oh, sorry. Next Thursday.

Okay, next Thursday. I hope this podcast can help you, so that the respected judge can review and see if there is a child who position is suitable to be sentenced to death or not you determine the life because the responsibility will be great until the afterlife

yes

yesterday there was a decision from the third committee about the death sentence is not suitable with the release of the new K the new law, it should be different. We'll see later. I pray for the best, ma'am. May God give you a bright future.

Amen. Amen.

Thank you.