Carney backs down from Trump AGAIN

Well, Prime Minister Carney says his government plans to strengthen Canadian laws against the importation of goods produced using forced labor.This comes after the U .S.proposed a 10 percent tariff on Canadian goods over Canada's failure to stop the practice.

The issue, the motivation of the U .S.action, the 301 tariffs against, or proposed tariffs against providers in countries, is something that we share.Canada has a very strong legislative regime against forced labour in supply chains.We don't want any element of forced labour coming in goods and services, and we want to use our influence to eliminate this practice of forced labour and child labour.We have been preparing ways to reinforce the regime that we have.

We made some changes earlier this year on things that, candidly, were not as effective.So there's ways we can change things legislatively.We'll be proposing that to the House in the coming weeks before the House rises, is our intention.

Canada is one of 60 countries facing the new tariffs, including Mexico and China.Meantime, the Canada -U .S.Trade Minister says there's no truth who reports that trade talks with the Americans are frozen.

You know, now that you're talking to Greer and you're making concrete proposals and putting out on the table, are talks now unfrozen?And in that vein, how soon are we going to start having these more sort of formal USMCA discussions, you know, as the Americans are having with the Mexicans?How soon until Canada either joins that table or has its own separate table with the Americans doing the same thing?

So the first part of your second question was, Are the talks unfrozen?The answer is yes.They've been unfrozen for a number of months.When I was here in March...had a face -to -face meeting with Ambassador Greer, I think I said at that time that we should consider that the pause of October is behind us.

the only G7 country to do so.

The short answer is no to the second part of your question.And it's an administration that we have to work with.It's our biggest trading relationship.It's our biggest security relationship.Many other relationships.And we work with that administration.

We take the administration as it is.

Our guest today is writer Dimpy Brar, whose work you can find in the pages of The Federalist, The Spectator and The Western Standard.Welcome once again, Dimpy.

Thank you so much for having me, Mr. Petroni.Always a pleasure.

Well, the Carney government has some problems, as you well know.Now it's under pressure from people like Jameson Greer, the trade rep for the United States, to deal with issues around the importation of goods produced by forced labor.OK, and so the main culprit of that forced labor is China.The problem is Carney's stated goal is to strengthen its trade ties with China.which doesn't even acknowledge the fact that it operates these forced labor camps.So what?

Maybe you can encapsulate how you see this issue for the Carney government around trade.

Well, I think it's fundamentally comes down to the same problem that we've seen over and over and over again.The Carney government either doesn't know or doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that USMCA tariff negotiations are not an economic issue.It's barely even geopolitics.It's really moral and civilizational.The question that's being put before the Canadian people is very simple.Are we still a part of Western civilization alongside our freedom loving friends in the United States?

Or are we turning towards a kind of Chinese despotism in which you accurately describe they embrace slavery for their way of economic growth?Now, Mr. Carney's government has not acknowledged this fact yet, but it's quite clear, not only with Mr. Greer's recent comments about forced labor, of course he's talking about China, but as well as the most recent announcement coming out of the Mackinac Conference, which was that two Democrats, one Congresswoman, both from Michigan, one is Congresswoman Haley Stevens, and the other is Senator Elise Slotkin.they are planning on introducing an act which is going to protect and preserve American automakers and manufacturers from Chinese EVs.And it is to our eternal shame that they actually explicitly named Canada as a problem.They noted the fact that Mr. Carney has signed a deal with the Communist Party of China that will allow for the unfettered access of Chinese EVs in Canada, which again will become a method or a route just into the American market.The Americans are of course not going to allow this.

And again, I might add, Mr. Carney and his liberal partyto be under the delusion, as did our Ontario Conservative Premier Doug Ford, that a change in government through the midterms might change the position of the United States towards these Chinese EVs and Chinese trade deals.But it looks to be the exact opposite.There is actually bipartisan support in the United States now against countering China in North America.This is something that is going to outlast and outlive President Donald Trump's in office, and it's something that the Canadian government needs to adopt and adapt to.

Yeah, I mean, Canada also has a secret policing agreement with China.Of course, we don't know anything about it.And when Carney was asked to elaborate, well, we don't do that sort of thing.That's not the way we run things.And so, you know, it's with that backdrop under that backdrop that we're trying to establish closer ties with them.And yet we're also trying to cut a deal with the Americans who say, hey, you know, there are issues around forced labor.

You're importing goods from nations that use forced labor, slave labor, if you want to call it.But China has no interest in being lectured by Canada about its humanitarian abuses.And so, you know, this is a very tangled web that the Carney government has been weaving.And, you know, I understand that they want to poke the bear, the United States, on one hand and yet want to deal with them on the other.It's just it just seems like a lot of what they do is that cross purposes.And so here we are now again facing the quandary of whether to cozy up with a country like China and knowing full well about its labor practices while at the other on the other hand trying to deal with the Americans.

And so it's like oil and water.here.You know, you can't do both at the end of the day.I think you've got to choose, don't you?

Well, we not only have to choose, but the choice is going to be quickly made for us at this point.Both China and America understand one thing, which is that Canada's advantage and benefit is the fact that it has access to the American market.Insofar as Canada has access to the American market and American intelligence, the American military, it is an advantage to China.But if the Americans were to, let's say, cut off all trade or seal the border, God forbid, there would be no reason for the Chinese to show interest in us either.And this is really another failure of the Carney government and the Liberal Party, broadly speaking.You see, the Liberal Party has always felt that they cannot distinguish really between friends and enemies, that you can somehow falsely equivocate between China and the United States, that they're just economic units to be traded with.

Well, that is simply not the case anymore.The United States, regardless of what you think of their president, is our longstanding friend, and it will remain so because of geographic blessing and providence until the end of time.This is something that will never change and ought not to change.However, for the Chinese, we must remember that they look at economics as another means of warfare.We've heard the Klauswitz saying that a war is just politics by other means.Well, for China, commerce is war by other means, and that is their intention with Canada.

Not only do we not know what's in these exchange or security agreements, we are still unaware of exactly what we have promised to the Chinese government in exchange for opening up ever so slightly some trade negotiations.And again, I must underscorepoking at Donald Trump is not going to work, and we've seen it already in the last two weeks.The announcement of a technical recession has been quite clarifying for the Carney government, as well as for Mr. Ford.We have seen a major shift in tone, extremely conciliatory, and even in response to the 51st state tweet that came out a couple of days ago, if you notice, Mr. Carney did not push back, he just accepted it and almost resigned himself to this fact.He understands that we are now negotiating from a total position of weakness.

We have no leverage when the nation has put itself into a technical recession and put itself into the state of dependency rather than independence, which Mr. Carney initially promised his voters.

Yeah, I mean, you can't wrap yourself into knots every time Trump posts something like 51st State.He does it, you accept it, you move on.I mean, he has the right to express his opinion, which, as we all know, he does it in an uncompromising way.And you can either choose to get triggered by it and comment about it and demand he retract it, or you can just move on, which I think is the smartest thing to do.I mean, the less time and energy you spend focused on that, the better, in my view.I mean, that's my take on it.

So if they've taken the approach now that Okay, well, Trump's gonna post and that's life, being America's neighbor and friend.Let's just deal with it and move on.What do you think?

I also I just think that actually Mr. Trump was making a joke and it was at Mr. Carney's expense, which was here is a man who spent the last year insisting thatwe will never become the 51st state.We would never find ourselves in such a position.And now you're telling me that we've entered a technical recession, which, by the way, what is a technical recession?It's like being technically pregnant.You either are or you aren't.

There is really no in between here.Once you've entered that recession, all that talk of not wanting to be the 51st state.And the joke is really on Mr. Carney, because he and his liberal predecessors, because this is a party platform that predates Mr. Carney, as well as finds its culmination in Mr. Carney, is responsible for driving this nation into a self -imposed recession.I have heard horror stories about the impacts of net zero and this climate fanaticism on our manufacturing and business sectors.And let's make it very clear.Economic security and prosperity is a national security issue.

So we capping ourselves through this climate fanaticism, which is by its very nature, anti prosperity because they hate capitalism and they hate to see the West prosper, especially has been largely responsible for gutting our manufacturing, our energy industry, sectors, and it's all by choice.We did this to ourselves.We never needed Mr. Trump to pull the trigger.

I mean, China intends to use Canada as a base of operations and has been to target America.And the Americans know it.Your point earlier about those two Congress people, people in Congress in Michigan saying, you know, we don't want those Chinese EVs here.That's the dynamic of what's going on here.China is interested in Canada.as a place that they can essentially continue to infiltrate.

increase its tentacles into our economy, into our politics, everything, with an aim towards targeting the United States, which is its biggest rival by far, you know?And so the Americans are not stupid.They can see what's going on.And here we are, kind of, the rest of us, kind of caught in the middle, like, what's our government really doing here?What are they thinking?This is a very precarious and dangerous situation.

state of affairs for us to be in, posing up to China, trying to negotiate a deal with the Americans, you know, being used as a staging ground for Chinese operations against the Americans while trying to continue our security ties with with the United States.I mean, this is just chaos, as I see it.What what do you think?

It's an absolute contradiction.And both You cannot have it both ways, which is precisely what the Liberal Party of Canada seems to think that they are going to do.I will just point out to you that in this announcement by these two Democrats, when they cite the dangers of these EVs, they're citing it as a security risk.They called it, quote, tick tock on wheels.And if this is a threat to people in Michigan, if it's a threat to American labor and their wages, and if it's a threat to the security of those towns and cities across the United States.Why would it not be the same for Canada?

You know, it is a serious advantage to the Chinese Communist Party that America and Canada not be friendly towards each other, that there be a wedge that separates us, that we are divided between us.That is to their advantage.So our enemies are actually loving this when in reality, a fortress north ofin which Canada and the United States actually increases its economic dependencies on each other as well as its mutual security would be something that could make this continent be the shining city on a hill against Chinese despotism on this continent.There is a real promise and hope and vision for the future in which Canada and the United States becomes the most important civilizational friendship in the free world.That is what we should be pushing towards, not a separation.

And as I like to say, and I've said it before, I'll say it again, the Canadian electorate may have voted in favor of diversifying its trade from the United States, but it never voted for divorce.And that is what the Liberal Party, up until about last week, has essentially been pushing towards.

Yeah.What I see, just getting back to China, is that country is driving a wedge, really, between Canada and the United States.They see what's going on.They see the acrimony.I mean, I don't think Trump is helping matters with these tweets because Canadians, of course, are sensitive about that sort of thing.But I think that's what's going on.

I think China knows exactly what it's doing, you know, continuing to make inroads in Canada.Of course, we we knew that they were spying.They've been interfering with our elections.And, you know, they have an influence, a growing influence.to the Chinese community, the diaspora in Canada, and they're doing it with an aim towards using Canada.And we're being used, you know, we're allowing ourselves essentially to be used because Trump derangement centers.

you know, we hate Trump.And so too many people in Canada feel that way.Now that they've been weaned into this, this idea that Trump is responsible for all our problems in Canada.And so let's, let's chum up with, with China as if that's any kind of solution.And then you have this issue of forced labor coming up with the Americans saying, Oh, by the way, you do know that you guys are importing goods that are manufactured by, a that there has been great difficulty for some Canadians to understand why the U .

S.should carry on any kind of relationship with China if we're not allowed to.And I just want to speak to that a little bit because I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding here of the place of the United States versus Canada.The United States is the economic and military might on this planet.Their relations with their enemies is much closer to the idea of keeping your friends close but your enemies closer.And this is something that the Canadians need to realize.

And one does not need to listen to Mr. Trump or heed his advice that China is incompatible with the West as it currently stands.Just take the words of Mr. Xi.In the Communist textbook, you can look this up.Mr. Xi makes it clear.He says the differences between Western civilization and China are, quote, irreconcilable.This is how they take Western civilization to be.

They are not playing a game here.They are playing for keeps and they are in the middle of a war against the United States.And Canadians need to wake up to that distinct threat.Mr Trump will never allow a national security threat on his northern border.So we either choose to go remain with our friends who have been our friends since the beginning of our beautiful origins, or we make a straight transformation towards Eastern despotism, which will destroy not just our own sovereignty, but our relationship with the United States of America.

Thank you so much for coming on the show.We appreciate it as always.

Always a delight.

Thank you.If you enjoyed the show, consider supporting great independent journalism by becoming a premier member of Juno News.Please go to junonews .com backslash straight up.You can find the link below.It helps us do what we do.

Thank you so much.We'll see you next time.