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CURHAT BANG Denny Sumargo
The judges are all Indonesian.
Why don't they use foreign judges? Can they not intervene in the judging process? Actually, they can.
They can.
It's clear. They can or they can't.
The ban is only for 12-to-6 albums. The ones that are popular. The ones that are popular. The ones that are popular.
The ones that are popular. The evaluation is... Actually, it's possible. It's clear, it's possible or not. The ban is only 12 to 6 albums. The ones that Putra does.
Do you think it's fair?
No.
Come on.
I don't know if I'm going to be disappointed or not. Boycott, boy inin-cott, beyond-cott. What's all this?
What?
My laptop is good?
Acer, thin but good.
Acer.
It's even better if it's in the Impact Driven Legacy Podcast. How can it be in? There's a lot of controversy. Why is that? Let me answer first? I called you here because a lot of people
asked me questions. I don't feel good answering them. I have made my own official statement before I came here. From beyond about what information I can provide, what happened on the field, what happened, why, we also understand the audience's confusion from where, especially in the new role, not everyone has an equal understanding, right?
So if you ask about what was controversial first? Which one first? Where do you want from? You all of them, you have to answer one by one. I'm like Putra Abdul, haven't I? I'm special. Your favorite kid. Actually, I know the pattern of being considered a favorite kid.
When in Beyond, it's played repeatedly, then it becomes a main event. Usually, it's like that, they call me a favorite kid, KJ, clan brother, they call me that. But I can't just, I rarely answer, but if there's a gold medalist, there's no one at all, because I want to do everything together.
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Get started freeIf maybe at that time there was a statement I said that Putra has the possibility to be a world champion, but I told everyone who has the possibility to be a world champion. But I said that to everyone who has the possibility to be a world champion. I said that to Ronald Siaan when he had the chance to play in the Grand Prix. I said that to Harry Sovyan. I said that to Serele Fendi.
I said that to Amarul. And I said that to Fahri Alamsya. I said that to Kabilan. You said that to Fahri Alamsya, I said that to Kabilan. You said that to Velmy too. To Velmy, well, it's true that I have a dream to be a world champion from Indonesia. But if we talk about the judges, there's nothing I can vote for. All the judges are Indonesian.
Why don't you use judges from abroad? Okay, when the UCC was formed in Beyond Combat Chobis V, I was still quite fair in the election of WASIT. Plus, many people ask, why is there a foreign WASIT in Beyond V, which Indonesia versus Malaysia,
the title is already clear, international, multinational. The wasit is from Indonesia, it's definitely a big deal. Because we don't know the heart of the wasit, the nationalism of each. To be honest, I also made a mistake there. The process is like this, UCC was honest, I did make a mistake there. The process was like this, UCC was formed.
At that time, we were told that the members were not yet there. And at that time, why did I insist that there could be... There was an insistence from me to have an international jury in the national kickstriking competition. Because at that time, Ajis vs. Kaji was a sabu competition. Moreover, the competition is international, Indonesia vs. Malaysia.
True, true. We are different, right? Yes. How many judges are there in total? The judges who evaluate it, so here's the thing, in every ring there are judges. There are judges A, judges B, judges C. There are four judges in the city? One A, B, C.
There are 4 judges? One more, the supervisor line. Okay. And timekeeper. So, timekeeper, supervisor, usually there is a competition inspector, representative from the sanction,
then next to it, what's his name? Doctor, medic. So the point is to give the value of 3 people, right? 3 people. And the inspector one is a doctor, a medic. So the point is to give the value to three people, right? Three people. And the inspector who is responsible.
No, the one who is responsible is the supervisor. For the final result. So, what is the use of the supervisor? Why are there three judges so that it can be evaluated from more than one angle? Because sometimes, for example, the left hook from the right side may not be visible if it doesn't get hit by the bat and so on. So, ABC is definitely normal if there is a difference in the result.
The angles are different. Then, if the final result is usually, the answer is in the supervisor. Can the supervisor be a nu feels that he is being called? He can call. So, if he feels that the decision is taking too long,
the judge who feels that he is being called can call him. Can he cancel their assessment? I don't know if it happens often or not. But what is clear is... Does he have the right to do that? I don't know if it's a right that is often used or not.
But what is clear is that usually the first decision when the score is obtained, it must be appreciated the final decision first. But if it feels really narrow, then... But here we have to know each authority, right? Three judges have to evaluate from every angle, according to what they see.
How far is the authority? What rights can be used? If the authority is unclear, it's dangerous too. It means that he can't intervene in that assessment or he can't intervene in that assessment. Actually, he can.
Can.
That's it.
So, actually, a supervisor is a supervisor. If you say he's a strict ruler, so, here's the thing. What's the rule? The authority, at every angle, is each person's autonomy. Okay. So, if you consider, but it's rare, it's very rare to assume that it's a jungle.
This is what I know. It's rare, but it can still happen, right? Yes, but if he wants to ignore it, ignore it, what is the result? On the basis, maybe he sees that your assessment is not accurate. There is one knowledge that I know, outside of Anulir,
there is a character like people to TikTok want to dispute, banning, it can actually be from the team. Why is the result like this? But usually the process is disclosed. For example, you're UCC. Then I'm the team that wants to see what the scoring is like.
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Get started freeFor example, I'm from team A, from team fighter A. I can do that. For example, like Bandi. Can we break down again? Can I make it better? But that's after. And there are actually, besides the supervisor, there is a division called comdis.
For example, there are bad calls in the fight. For example, bad the referee's bad, not good enough, or not firm enough, or for example, there is a failure when it comes to the evaluation. That's after the match. But after the match,
the result of the match can be disputed after and done disclosedly. That's a fact. The term can be omitted. But as known fact, to cancel on the supervisor's table,
it rarely happens. Because the supervisor's main task is to collect the score first, until the end, then see, add it, and if there is a reduction in points, each judge can only write minus according to what the higher authority tells.
For example, minus one, he can't just add it there. So he can only minus one. For example, the competition system every round there must be someone who wins. So the system is 9 to 10 match point round.
If you lose once, it's 10 to 8. If you lose twice, it's 7 to 10. If you lose three times, it's a knockout. So, that's the point. It's the same as many matches that are canceled. Maybe if we can learn,
David Haney vs Ryan Garcia. Yes, that's after the match was disputed and finally, it was challenged. That's there. So, it's possible when someone wants to challenge that from two teams, it's okay. And there is a situation. There is a situation and it is usually done discreetly.
Okay, that's one point. This is clear. The next one is, do you feel it was not right at that time, when finally after the competition, why all the Indonesian wasit should be abroad? Okay, so I said earlier, is there a mistake when I'm not doing this Bion 6, I'm focused on the promotion.
This is not an excuse, I mean, I'm really focused on the promotion, how can this be organized on the promotion. This is not an excuse. I mean, I'm really focused on the promotion, how to make it neat in HR, and how I can send the fighter from his place to be known by more people. That's my focus. Because after I built UCC,
right, there are a lot of questions. I really founded UCC, the name of kickstriking is my name. And I also helped to sharpen those rules. But the rest, daily administration, then the case of judges, and so on,
I didn't have any involvement at all. Well, since Beyond 5, then to Madness and Beyond Tryout, I've released it all to the general chairman.
Who?
Okay.
There was a competition between Indonesia and Malaysia, Jakarta Naibaho against Sabri, although maybe it can't be discussed too much because Jakarta Naibaho was KO. But there was a competition between Malaysia and Malaysia, there was a competition from Indonesia to Indonesia. All the scoring, in terms of discipline, in terms of supervisor, it's all safe.
So, I've put it behind my head, it's not a priority. It's different from when I was in Beyond 5, I was still thinking about how Beyond 5 looks neutral and it's neutral. Even the process. So, there is a gap, do you think? I feel, in my opinion,
it's not as sharp as when Bion 5 was in the middle of all the busyness and business. When I was in Hariha, I just realized, this is all Indonesia, I hope there is no controversy. And it happened for the first time, this is the first time, the Malaysians are this many, 1,500 people.
1 in 4 are Indonesian, the rest are Indonesian. So it really feels like when... There are three most controversial matches in my opinion. Fahmi vs Sunami. Fahmi vs Sunami. Fahmi versus tsunami. Fahmi tsunami. Fahmi tsunami, people feel controversial.
Okay. From me personally, we talk about one by one. These three are the ones that kickstriking first. Okay.
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Get started freeWhich one first?
All three.
All three. That's my solution as a promoter. Outside of UCC, I don don't get involved at all, I will give free vibes. It becomes free vibes, because it all happens in pay-per-view. So that the netizens can also evaluate.
With some general factors that can be learned, So, the first point is, there is a difference between the attack that is blocked and the attack that is entered. Then the second thing to pay attention to, there is a difference between the attack that is entered and the attack that is missed. That's the difference. The third is a flashy attack or with high-level techniques. For example, spinning back elbow, elbow,
then question mark kick, spinning heel kick, tornado kick, etc.
The value is higher?
The value is higher.
How different?
Of course, if the normal one, for example, the usual jab, still using... This is actually my outside of the evaluation. But this is all evaluated throughout the round. I'll just give you an example. For example, the real attack is told.
Knuckle and backhand are allowed. Then for the feet, the pure point is above the knees. Calf kick can be done to disturb, but if the damage is big, until it moves, for example, that's a point too. Okay, if he's kicked on his leg but it doesn't move, just shake, watch. Okay, this is actually not my opinion, but I'll tell you more or less if you want to judge.
For example, this is just a calf kick to disturb. It's not a point. For example, until this. That's a point. But it doesn't fall. But it doesn't fall.
If he's lifted, it's a point. For example, here. It's just a hit, Len. He can avoid it by checking. If it's from here to here, if it's like this, it's not a point. Because you got hit under the knee.
Again, that's a systematic defense. Defense is also evaluated. Again, if you get hit like this, clean, just touch it, it's a point. It's the same if you just jab like this, you get hit, then it's a point. If you jab, for example, jab, and then... And then you even do a backstab.
I was able to hold it, but it hit. That's usually, if you're a professional, you're still counting the damage. But it means it's not clean. Not clean, so the point is not clean. There is still, but not clean. But there is a point, because he attacked. Then for example, this pocket is hit by a pocket until it's bent, it's different.
It's different too?
It's different.
So the more difficult the technique is, the higher the point is. Okay, because not everyone understands, right? Let's make it clearer. What I want to ask first is the most important thing. You made a statement at the time, in kickstriking. There was no draw. there was no draw.
And then if there was an illegal... 12-6 elbow. Yesterday at the Putra event, disqualification. So, all the violations have their levels. So, for example, it was done once, usually a warning first, the right one.
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Get started freeWhy did you immediately reduce the minus point yesterday because you immediately hurt the opponent? Yes, because he's like this. I don't know either, because Putra's position is to protect like this. I don't know, he... Because, you know, position... Ronald. Ronald, positioning, like that.
Some say, Ronald is a backstabber. Some say, the movement is indeed towards the illegal. So there are two POVs, right? But in the end, it was considered an illegal movement, right? That's why it was reduced.
Why wasn't it disqualified? That's the question. If he... This is from my point of view as a viewer, not a promoter, if he does it again, he has the right to be disqualified. Why? Because he has been given a hard warning, minus point,
or the same as the yellow card, if for example in Combat Sport, if he does it again, on purpose, he can be disqualified. When you were in the video, you didn't explain it like that. It's actually like this.
So it feels like you're defending yourself. I understand. So if I can explain it, there are three processes in the development of the UCC rules. I am a supervisor at UCC, not a daily manager, not even a supervisor, although I am a director. So the first one is when the emergency press con, there was a little exercise,
which was later changed to the Beyond Combat Chobits 5 Prescon. If you want to know, the elbow can only be like this, side and front elbow. So if you're crossing like this, you can't do it. No, it can't be like this. So it's just two movements.
Yes, when it's Beyond 5, but Yes, when I was in the fifth grade. But we just realized when we were playing, even though no one was breaking, but it made it difficult to see. The only elbow that can be seen clearly, for example, at that time we want to evaluate this one and this one a little bit, it's already difficult. The most visible one is this one. And this is the easiest to injure and end the match.
So that's why only 12-6 elbow is prohibited.
From top to bottom?
From top to bottom.
The one that Putra did?
Yes, the one that Putra did. The rest, after that, there will be more development when Beyond Madness. Maybe, but the clip is only a little bit between this and this, it's a little different, 12 to this is like this, if this is different, the damage is legal, now, from the bottom to the top, this is legal,
this is legal, this is legal, this is legal, only this is not allowed, oh allowed. So there is an update from Beyond 5 to Beyond 6. But is it informed? It is informed to all fighters and also...
The audience?
The audience is there. I'm talking.
Really?
Yes. It's there in the press conference, in my TikTok live. Actually, what should be done when the 12 to 6 elbow happened, should it be disqualified? If it happens again, I think it's right to disqualify. He's just doing it again.
But if it's only once, I think... Actually, it's like this. There are people who just do this, and they're immediately warned. And then they do this again, and they get hit.
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Get started freeThat's a minus, for example. If they do it again, it means they did it on purpose, and then they're disqualified. So, actually, in terms of regulation, it has to be written, right?
If it's up there twice. There's an olibook. Oh, there is? Yes. Really? Yes. Oh, so you have to show it. Yes, that's right. That's the fair way. Because people are like that.
Because I'm also a foodie too. You have to explain. If it's like this, it's disqualification. So we catch it, oh, it's disqualification. You can't blame them either. I think it's an evaluation. Plus, I let UCC move. But if I'm told,
as a supervisor, I can only see it. I understand, the pace is too fast. And there is still a possibility the rules can still develop and change. So, it's not uploaded directly. But at least, fighter and all UCC tools know.
Yeah, it's a process. And it's good for you. That's why I called you. I said, you have to learn from all of this. Because this is good for you. You can't deny it.
Because if you deny it, you don't learn. And I deny it. Because if you deny it, you won't learn. And I respect that. It means you can accept it all with a clear mind. Because you're a promoter. But I don't understand why you cry. One, I was born expressive.
One, there are a few things that I'm still young, that I still have a lot of homework. If I'm asked why, there's my nationalist feeling that I'm screaming in my heart. We all feel that.
Then if I'm asked why I pray, there's a bump in my heart, is this a win or a fail? And when I was actually there, I was happy, I was also excited.
I can't deny that.
But,
is it fair, when two graves are competing, and you show the expression, as if you are on the same side as if it can show you're on the side. Is it fair in your opinion?
No.
I really learned, and I mean, there is my emotional feeling, there is also when I feel regret, like, honestly, I'm not an emotional person, in the sense that I can cry. At certain moments I can cry. Then when I was like yesterday, I felt like a plug of my own feelings.
But I saw your face, you didn't cry. I saw it, it was really bad. There were three times I cried. Paris, KJ1. Prescon, Bion, 5, Ajiz, KJ. I didn't expection 5, Ajis KJ. I didn't expect that question could be the same as yesterday.
But I understand, as a human, as a person who knows you, I understand. What's in your heart, but I don't agree. Because I feel like it's not fair. They're far away from the outside. But that's what people see. I even saw on the account of TKTK, Tsunami,
there was a protest too, right? He reposted people who protested. Yeah, maybe he couldn't talk directly. I agree. Did you talk to the TKTK tsunami team? We're in the same hotel.
So, we have a conversation, but he doesn't talk about the competition.
He respects you.
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Get started freeHe respects me. I'm confused. I'm a promoter and I'm quite friendly. So, now people can say I'm a gold digger, my project, that project. That's me, I'm talking about it too. One of the two projects that ever came out of my mouth was the Ongen project and the Velmi project.
The rest of what happened in kickstriking, there was no project. But people assume that if I've been a sabu, I'll project it. If I've won, I'll project it. But there are no projects like that. And I mean, I just want to go to Velmi and Bung Ongin, there are fair vehicles according to skills,
but it can be the world champion, even though it's hard. But if there are intrigues inside, I mean, other tools, other than what I'm in control of, I don't know. I understand. But this is how you learn to be an adult to be a promoter, right? That's why we're talking. So that what we've been talking about here, about 3-4 years ago,
3 years ago, before Bionic was there, it's still on the way. I always tell you, you will be forgotten a lot of problems. You just don't know. And today it's starting to look like one by one.
It's not your portion to explain, but you have to explain it, because you're a promoter. I provide information that I can provide, what happens on the field. So, I'll let you know. But if, well, I'm actually... Still in the process. Yes, still in the process.
Are you disappointed?
Disappointed, because there's no one who works as hard as that. It's still going strong. It's still going strong. Are you disappointed?
Disappointed, because there's no one who works as hard as that. I'm not lying if I say I'm working on Bion 6. Bion 5 is very stressful, but Bion 6 is much more like a year-end. Next year I want to prepare for Malaysia. How can I work on the administration? How to do it? I'm just the administration, etc. I was like that.
Then suddenly a problem was discovered, one, I didn't predict at all about the protest about the value of points and so on. That's one, out of my control. Two, but I'm also the main responsibility of the event. So I accept everything well.
Then the second, my intention to make Indonesia Malaysia 2 is actually the same as the intention to make Indonesia Malaysia 1. Where I want to make a silaturami so that the words collide. So that the people are harmonious. It happened in Indonesia and Malaysia. When we were in the second round, people felt redemption.
And I also made a lot of mistakes. I didn't keep... I mean, I didn't insist. I just felt like, I insisted to have an international jury. There must be an international jury that day. Then... You didn't talk to your father.
I saw it. You were keeping me away. Yeah, power cube wasn't given when you were in Paris. That wasn't me. I swear. You didn't ask me directly. Is that true? But you've already made up with Paris. I've never felt a problem.
Where did he come from? I know.
He's your WLO?
Yes, WLO. Did you invite him?
Where? Invite him. Invite him.
Where? Sir. This is fun.
Paris, about Paris. From the first time he became CEO, I didn't feel anything. I'm just happy for him. But there were some parts that I felt I had to be careful. It's normal. But I just limited it.
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Get started freeThere's nothing weird. Because my guess is that the person who made him CEO wanted to build a CEO version. That's my guess. That versus CEO. That's from me. That's right. But it means I'm from a good friend, I want to be argued.
It's my feeling. I honestly avoided it at that time. So it's better for me to limit myself. What I can keep is myself. While I see, it's right, CEO versus CEO, increase, add, then suddenly really challenge.
Netizens are also involved. Netizens are involved because there is already a poster from the matchmaker to make a CEO versus CEO.
Okay.
So, it's not official from the HSS, but the matchmaker of the HSS made that poster. The matchmaker of HSS made that poster, so it became a public food, plus Paris became the CEO, then added again when I was on Beyond Madness, 10 days after I got married, I was challenged to invite.
Who?
Paris. Huh? Yes, that's 10 days after I got married. Where? in Paris. I got married on the 10th. Where? Was it open or what? It was open. We made a YouTube video. Why? I was supposed to call out. But you didn't accept it.
I didn't accept it. The choice was to stay silent. You were an adult. I stayed silent until he called out, I stayed silent too. He said I was scared. He he was still around the podcast, he said I didn't invite him to marry. Well, it's as simple as this.
I have two families that I have to take care of. If Paris stands at my wedding, will my family be hit? No one is happy with that call out, crazy. Even though I've called out Jeffrey before, and I know his family is really mad.
Let's make it short. Have you talked about it heart to heart?
Not yet.
It's been a long time. I think it's natural. He was just kidding when he came. Your son and my son are the same. Can I still play with you? That's it.
Just that. He's trying to to make the atmosphere. But for me, I just let it be normal. I mean, there's no intention to do anything. I mean, after a full year, there was that incident, I think, I think it's okay.
You're tired, right?
Yes, I'm tired. Then if you want to be forced to talk directly, I think it's normal. It's normal, like a normal human being. Just organic. At first, I was kidding. If it's close again, it's okay.
If not, it's enough. And for a year, each of us has no problem. I mean, he's on his own, no problem. I'm on my own, no problem. That's clear, right? What? Why did I come?
Yes. Why? Paris is clear, right? Clear, clear. Okay, no one wants to add anything? No.
I came with a peaceful message, no business intrigue, everyone was surprised, I've explained it too.
Yes, you went to the HSS.
Yes.
Yes. That means you started it. For? That means you're the one who started it. Yes, I came first. Why? Because I felt like I had no personal problems. For me, at that time, there was a reason business that seemed to be trying to go there,
was forced. Oh, is that so? Yes, that's the CEO versus CEO. I'm not CEO. I'm the one who's in charge. And for me, when I got to... I'm getting a little bit clear here. From the beginning of the press conference,
they reasoned the fight because of me, I said, no problem, the important thing is they can do what they want to do. For studying with Mr. Aris, got a fortune. I'm just grateful.
You just support them.
I don't have direct support, but at least I can do this. Then I can face the netizens too. I come, even though I'm still surprised. I come, just want to was still surprised, I came, I just wanted to come, then all the cameras came to me. That's what people are waiting for, right?
I was surprised when I watched it. But that's cool, it brings a positive aura, right? But what brings a negative aura from Pertenam, Bion 6, these are the words of Boycott Bion. In short, beyond code. What is your opinion on that?
I feel really praise God, I'm from this point, this is still Monday, I only have one friendly day, Sunday, I make a list of everything, I honestly, all the videos about it, I download, I repeat, I learn what I can improve.
All the videos that passed, all the writings that passed, so I'm grateful emotionally, I'm super duper stable. I'm grateful I can come here to explain clearly. I think people who pay can speak like that. I think there is a right for people to speak. There is. I don't blame anyone. Even though there are many people who have already paid.
They speak like that. It's okay. I mean, I do have mistakes, mistakes, imperfections in hosting events, where I know exactly when people watch Beyond, the expectations are very high. You're the one who makes the expectations high. You can't blame them. You raise the standard, you raise the bar, you have to deal with the consequences.
And that's where you get big, right? We're talking about it, right? I really agree. You raise the standard, you raise the bar, you have to deal with the consequences. And that's where you get big, right? We've talked about it, right? I agree. Because for me, when Bion 6 started,
from the opening ceremony and the first question to the paper, it starts very well. I feel God, thank you. God gave me all this. Hope. What I was afraid of when I was ...
I was really given the vision when I was praying together. There's a video of it. Clip people because this jacket is like a throne. Beyond the first? No, beyond the 6th, when this jacket was released. Are you going to show off your jacket?
Not a show off jacket. Because No, not show off my jacket. Because there was a moment where I was being videotaped. There were people videotaping me too. So, I was being videotaped. The jacket was really cool. That was the moment.
So people can remember. When I was praying, I was really... I had a vision. I was really scared. I also pray that today, all the Indonesian citizens will be able to vote. So I pray that there will be no controversy. All the wins can be completely raised without any weirdness. And then it turns out there are.
A lot. A lot. Including the tsunami versus... If people talk about it, there are... I want to talk about it first. There are five.
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Get started freeI'm confused at first. From the beginning, the domination was really felt from our POV, you can't blame it. We watched it, Wak. Not that we're talking about Femi, right? Felimi. Felimi fights very well.
But he fell. But I'm proud to see him because he fell because he kept fighting even though he fell. We support Indonesia, of course. We have to be fair, too. During the match, the tsunami was very dominant. But you didn't see it, right?
I did. If not, I wouldn't have prayed. So, Felmy, you probably lost. I felt like, is he going to win? Oh, because of the domination? Yes, because of the domination.
How can Felmy win? People are confused. Okay, so I'll explain. I'm sorry, Felmy, dear. I know. We're not doubting Felmy.
No, Felmy fights very good.
I know.
I mean, he deserves to win.
I know. I will be honest. There is a question about split decision. The winner is Haris Haikal. If I'm not mistaken, the boxer is named after me. As far as I know, there is a split.
Two judges won one judge.
Are you sure?
Let's check it out hopefully not because the score I heard is 90 something in boxrec it can be checked
let's check it out there must be margin error, but in boxrec I checked it last I think it's 918, 918 96, 93 918, 918, 96, 93, 918, 918. That's it, 91, 98.
For Velmi. Then 96, 93 for Tenkai. 91, 98 for Velmi again. I can't say anything. I can only, as a promoter, I can only appreciate and consider the final decision. Yes, because we have to agree with each other, what has become the final decision.
It's sacred. After that, if you want to be beaten, you have to be beaten. But in a competition, it can't be changed. We agree. But, is it true? But I don't know, the writing, UDSD, sometimes there is a margin error. Because the input is still human. If yesterday it was just a one or two margin split decision,
maybe people still, oh, maybe we have a mistake, where is the eye? But if the margin is far away, people will be like, why are our eyes wrong? That's how it fell. Not to underestimate Velmy. Velmy, he plays well.
If Velmy yesterday, not Velmy, in my opinion, it's done. But Velmy, she's a very tough fighter. We're proud of her.
She fell, she got up, she was punched several times, she came back. I mean, we're not ashamed to see her fight. She didn't feel ashamed. But the numbers, right? Eventually it became a question. Although almost some Indonesians would like to see Velu win anyway.
It's hard to answer, right? I'm not answering because I'm just... I'm just sending Tenkai Tsunami to Tennis Indore Senayan. I'm sending Velmi Sumehe to Tennis Indore Senayan. Promote it so that many people watch it, so that many people become witnesses
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Get started freeabout the results of the Wased decision. I can't say anything. I cannot speak on behalf of them.
Okay.
So that means that's something you have to improve on that. That's the next step. So, we're learning, right? We're not trying to judge. The goal is to learn. So that we can both improve.
So that the results are better. Yes. So that it won't be repeated.
What's that?
SD, split decision.
Split decision? Split decision? Okay, score 91
98 Tenkai, 98, Vellmi 96, Tenkai 93, Vellmi 91, Tenkai 98, fail me.
The decision?
The red one on top, SD.
SD, split decision?
How do you calculate it?
Try it.
98, 93, 98. If it's in the number, it's not a split decision. Oh, not in the number, sir. It's not in the number. Judge A, who do you choose? So, there are some forms of jury decision.
Okay, let me tell you. There are several forms of jury decision. Okay. So, for example, you're red corner. I'm blue corner. Okay.
Okay. There are three rules. The first one, we talk about majority decision first. Majority decision. So, there are two majority decisions. Majority draw or majority who wins.
Majority draw means this. Two wasit state draw. One states one who wins. That's the majority draw.
If it's unanimously draw, it's very rare. So usually all three of them consider it a draw.
Okay.
Rare.
Okay.
Moving on to the second one, split decision.
Okay.
Baba Red Corner, I'm Blue Corner.
Okay.
Two of them consider Baba win. Two of them consider me win. One of them consider me win.
Okay.
Split decision. Same as Tenkai Velmi. No matter how many rounds, the number is the same. Yes, not added. Next. Again, unanimous decision. All the judges, regardless of the difference when it was added to 10 rounds,
Three judges, stated that the red corner won completely. Or that Red Corner won completely. Completely. Or Blue Corner won unanimously. Not biased, unanimously.
Okay.
There was no other decision, unanimously. Everyone agreed on one decision.
Ronald Putra?
One draw. One draw. One draw? One won Putra. One won Putra? One draw? One wins Putra One wins Putra? One wins Ronald
Oh, because people see the numbers are counted bro Because if the number is counted, it's two different numbers What do you mean? There are numbers for Putra, how many for Ronald, how many So people count in numbers, right? So if in the number, Ronald wins by two numbers.
Do you understand what I mean?
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Get started freeOh, after the result of 4747. Yes, it's accumulated. So people are confused, why did it become a drop? That's what I mean. But, let's be honest, it's seen all over the mosque. So in one decision,
when it's seen, look at the final result, what is it? Who is the score directed to? 47-47, that's definitely a series. Then we just open this one, Putra. For example, 91-92, 93-94. Well, the one on this side, we sum it all up. Then we are challenged with the one on this side, we sum it all up.
That's in the round of points reduction The points reduction is at 5 here Where? This is after the number, there is no official file Okay This is the one in the box track, 4549
Putra won Right? Then again in Judge C, it was Ronald who won. 4846. The one who drew. One draw.
So draw.
So draw.
Oh, I see.
Not the different margin numbers, but who won per round. Yes, that's right. it's measured per round. So if there are 5 rounds, from those 5 rounds, who wins in each round? Yes, more or less. Not the accumulation of the number of numbers in each round.
Yes, I understand.
Yes, each round is also accumulated. Yes, but you understand, right? I mean, round is accumulated too. Yes, but it's not like that. Round 1 to 10. That's why there is a term called a round-robbery. For example, there is a person who is left behind. For 1.5 minutes.
Oh, like this. For 2.5 minutes. There is a term called a round-robbery. The round-robbery. 30 seconds. The person saying, take the round. Take the round. In 30 seconds, the opponent will take the round. But the way...
But it's also a waste if I'm in a 5-round match. In 4 rounds, I lose, bro. Or in 3 rounds, I lose. I win 1 round. There's only 1 round left. You can only K.O.
In that 1 round, I won a lot of points. You can't. I didn't help him either. No, you can only KO him. I can only help him if he wins KO. Yes, KO or TKO.
Oh, that's what Putra was aiming for last night. Because he was already reduced his points. Because he was afraid he had lost two rounds. How many rounds was that? Five. Five rounds. He was afraid he had lost one round. Yes.
The previous one was also a bit troublesome. Oh, so he calculated it.
Okay.
If you look at the evaluation, it's more or less like this. One, two have a son. Three, four have Ronald. The fifth round has a son after a failure. No, it should Putra after the violation. No, it should be 5 Ron. So there are 5 numbers.
If in Boxer, there is no. The number of wassip is 3. Oh, the number of wassip is 3. So not 3, eh 5 numbers, so still 3 numbers. So like this, if I tell you the flow, the process of confusion of Putra and Ronald, I understand tell you the flow. I understand the confusion process of Putra and Ronald.
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Get started freeWhy Putra's family went up to the ring. Why Ronald's team felt unaccepted with the decision. First, I know the problem is in three positions. The supervisor said draw. When I heard that, I said, count again, make sure it's a draw or not. Because in kickstriking, draw is just one round.
Okay, then give it to the ring announcer. Ring announcer.
Suddenly, it's Ronald.
Not say draw. This is the second post. This is a post because of full pressure. It's half past two in the morning. When the FND Amarul series was on, it was really long. Yes, I know. It was a long run. Before F&D series was on air, we won the time.
We could beat the time. So when F&D series was on air, it was... Because there was Tandu and all that. Tandu, there was... What was it? Ngulang-ngulang.
Yeah, I understand.
So when that happened The second post was the ring announcer Not saying draw So he said This is judgment round
Then?
Wasit, who was on top He heard that round So Ronald and Red He said that I thought it was Red or Ronald. He went to pick up. He immediately asked the supervisor.
Drawl, drawl, you must say drawl.
Well, that's it.
You should have said drawl first. I should have said drawl first. So the problem is, even in those three positions, in the world of pro-motoring, I'm quite tolerant, but those three positions make me biased. The first one, I understand,
Ronald's team is like... they've been lifted. Yes, yes. Why did it become draw? People also said that. foreign
That's fun.
I can't hold all three posts because I'm not the announcer, I'm not the supervisor, I'm not the wassail. And those are the competitive devices that I have believed in the competition and I know that the mistakes are made. I know that as the main responsibility, I hear what people feel wrong. Those three have made the atmosphere chaotic. I personally can't make any decisions there. The only thing is when it's okay, the judgment round.
Two fighters are ready. Because the kick striking rules don't allow a draw, right? Right. Well, there, finally, they're ready. When they're ready, Team Ronald asked to be checked by the doctor. The injury was done because of an illegal blow.
Where was that? Here. Here, it? Here. Five stitches. Because I went to the Serial Effendi after I got home. In Saharjo, then I went to Antasari. Serial Effendi was okay.
But why did he come out like that? Because he was fast. I mean, but he recovered well. Recovered well. Then, continue to Ronald. So, when asked, I make sure.
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Get started freeSo, this hasn't reached my decision yet. This is the third post that was wrong. Then finally, okay, everyone understood that it was a draw. After understanding that it was a draw, finally, when ready, checked by the doctor. Then, everyone asked,
can he continue? Because this was the doctor's decision. No one was allowed to intervene the doctor. The doctor said, no. Then, when I heard that I couldn't, I checked again.
I checked again, and I said, take your time, don't rush. I checked again, and the doctor said, I can't do it. Okay, then I posted it. Because it's just about facilities. Because for me, Ronald, for example, if he is declared KO or TKO because he can't, many people say, Ronald is KOTKO, a Malaysian. Because he can't continue.
Because he can't continue. But his injury was done because of illegal blow. So, if it's said, there's no expectation. Oh, maybe later, who hopes for a draw? Maybe the draw is due to illegal blow. So if he can't continue because of illegal move, it's not fair for Ronald.
It's confusing. It's confusing. Well, that's the rest of it for me. Because if I can't continue, the UCC, if it's the last decision, it's a draw.
Yes.
But there can be a draw in kickstriking. Finally, the facilitation is mine. Well, what does you want me to do? The only thing I can do is to say, I'm a promoter, these two fighters are under an exclusive contract, a multi-fight contract.
So the only thing I can think of at that time is an immediate rematch on the next Beyond schedule. But that's not in your first conversation between the two sides. No, everyone knows that in kickstriking, if there's a draw, it's a judgment round.
No, the contract is not yet there. In the UCC rules, there is a judgment round. Ronald has already held a judgment round. But when... Okay, there's one more additional information. When the doctor said he couldn't,
Ronald also said this. I don't mean I don't mean to, I heard the doctor. He said, if I got a leak because of legal blow, I'll continue, he said. But you're confused, he said. Then, from me, it's also true.
Because Ronald, the previous question, even went to the judgment round. He's previous question, even went to the Judgment Round. He's been there before, he went to the Judgment Round. He was also torn, but here. But it's legal. Legal.
He has no problem. He also has no problem. Well, yesterday, Ronald's problem was solved. His team was already exhausted. Because it was already lifted, and then suddenly it was a draw. I understand, the audience also doesn't understand.
4,900, what we talked about, everyone was silent. Then the rest is my decision at the end. What is it? Ronald felt like winning, the team felt like winning, because there were a lot of putra violations. More or less, if you count, there are two.
Each one is claiming.
One, that. One got blow warning. The one to the groin. The other one was immediately minused because of injury. Okay, that's it. He got one point deduction.
In my opinion, the device has done what it can do. As soon as possible, there is a minus, there was a warning. And Ronald was also given a five-minute chance when he was hit by a groin.
To recover.
To recover. It's all five minutes.
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Get started freeThere are five minutes?
It depends on him when he wants to start. It doesn't last five minutes. It depends on him. But it's long. He can play too. If he feels ready, he can play. But at that time, it didn't last five minutes. Yes. Then from there, I could only give the solution. Immediate rematch. One feels like winning.
One feels like winning. In his place, in UCC, draw. Then what should I do? So he's the only one. Then there are a lot of complaints. Mr. Nelson didn't understand because he spoke in a mixed way.
For me, it's just human. Yes. Yes, so that's how it feels. That's my PR too, about neutrality. I will definitely finish it too. Yes, there are a lot of good notes.
A lot of good notes, a lot of input that can be in this, but there are a lot of PRs. Because after this, we will definitely talk about the paper view lag. That's for later. Yesterday it lagged again. That's for later. You turn it back.
Yes, be patient.
I'm paper view.
This was not finished of Ronald Putra Yeah, so Putra didn't want to rematch He wanted to, apparently He wanted to in the end How did it happen?
I don't know, maybe he had someone to tell him
But you watched his statement, he didn't want to rematch I did, I watched it, it was really after-fight But in the end he said he wanted to I also know that two hours ago, Putra didn't want to rematch. But in the video I made earlier this afternoon, I said, for example, there is one side that doesn't want to fight anymore, why? Because you feel like you won.
The other side feels like they won. In Wasit, he said, in the final, draw. Then if you want to win, instead of just claiming it with your mouth, just fight again. You're under exclusive contract.
Pay twice.
Why? One package with the previous one. No, it's not.
Pay twice.
The next fight.
He's lucky.
Actually, there's no loss. Everyone can claim victory. From Putra's team, they can evaluate what he did wrong. From Ronald's team, they can evaluate from the previous game. So for me, when the only facility I can give is the immediate rematch, in my opinion, there is no loss.
Okay, so there will be a rematch. I will try my best. What is the probability of it? 90%. 90%, 10% later. Because it's a league. I will do my best. What is the probability? 90% 90% 90%
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Get started free90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% It should be, I hope. It should be, right? I hope. I hope.
It should have an administration side and there are many online movements that we can't understand, like Boycott Bion, or what. I'm ... Are you sad with all this controversy and also, in my opinion, this is the biggest proclamation that Bion has ever made in Bion 6. Never. Never, right 6, has ever had? Never. Never?
How do you feel?
Be honest, as a human being first, as a human being, you as a salesman, not as a promoter. Okay, if from me personally, I must say, the first time I received it, I didn't work hard for this. Oh, you blame yourself. Yes. So, I worked so hard. It's a lie if I worked for a gap.
I worked for no gap. But it turns out there are some unexpected things that happened on the field, and I only had time to recover. How to recover this? For example, the first condition is 100%. How to do it?
Near, not 100%?" That's what I did, finally there was an immediate rematch after getting the latest data from UCC, the people of Runutin, I'm honest, it's stressful. Honestly, if you say it's really stressful, it's more stressful when I'm in jail. Oh, the Beyond 2? Beyond 1. Beyond 1, yes.
So I'm grateful too. I'm also grateful that God has made me mature through time and events. So when I see the good side, I pray to God, God, I made you for this, I built you for this moment. I felt it. So for a reason. Then when there was Boycott Beyond and so on,
I could only ask. I also asked the fighter, is there any input? We are one hotel and fighter, so is there any input? Even though most of them didn't say it directly. We're a hotel and a fighter, so there's no point in... Even though most people don't talk about it directly. It's not good.
But first of all, I really didn't expect this. It's like being trampled on the road that we didn't even see. Not on purpose. Not on purpose. But it's a mistake that you have to accept. Right, because of the lack of sharpness,
what is it called, my bird's eye view monitoring as president, still, the first blame must be on me. And I accept it all to evaluate. I literally, there is no video that I skip. Every video, want 11 minutes minutes or 20 minutes on TikTok, I play it. I save it and play it.
So I can see it. I'm really mad. Don't be like that. Because he's pregnant. He's pregnant. He'll be under stress. This is your challenge. take it easy,
not everything is according to expectations. Because everyone is like, well, teach me next year, teach me this, that's it, just close Bion, and all kinds of things. I'm also trying, why am I being pushed this far to fail.
There are questions that are normal. You ask yourself too. I ask myself. What is your question to yourself? Honestly, I rarely doubt myself. I have a very, very extra confident.
Oh, you finally doubt yourself.
Yes, rarely do I doubt myself. Not suddenly. Yeah, I rarely do that. It's not like that. It's not like that. So when I went to Ngaca, I went home. But actually this is in a stable condition, not like, ah, stress. Emotional.
Not emotional either. So it's stable enough to be able to clearly say that, Because, well, this is it. You haven't made it in Malaysia yet. It's already like this.
And I mean, the mistake I feel is not that I couldn't control it at that time. I tried to insist, I tried to blame anyone. I can't blame anyone. I can only say that I can't blame anyone. I can't blame anyone. I can only say that I can't blame anyone. I can't blame anyone. I can't blame anyone. I can't blame anyone. I can't blame anyone. I can't blame my trust in UCC.
Because it will ruin everything. Right. So I don't blame anyone. I can only say that You have to learn. I have to learn and then I will fix it. Hopefully in the next opportunity.
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Get started freeActually, there are a lot of people who still want to give the next opportunity. I keep it like I keep it, just like how I kept my first Bion. After that, I prayed. I was in a hurry. This year is actually the hardest year of all the years I've been through. Have I told you at the beginning. Yes, from before I got married,
Beyond 5, and God gave me wisdom. God gave you the blessing of having a baby. That's right.
It's a bless for you.
Thank you, Sir. And all your problems are a blessing for you. Because the way I see it, I've taught you. God, if He doesn't love you, He won't give you problems. Those problems are blessings. Because if there are no problems, there is no brightness.
There is no darkness, there is no brightness. There is no beauty. But how do we have the strength to accept and overcome everything when we know that this is not all purely my fault, but I have to have a big soul. God is enlarging your soul.
Because if you want to be big, you have to be brought by a big-hearted person. We want to see. But I also understand that God gave Bion as a package with all this in his journey. That's what really brought me to a place that I couldn't even imagine. Between bigger or beyond closed.
Yes, that's right.
Yes, the energy is so strong. Almost all the problems I've experienced, actually, I can't tell you in detail. From the first day I was in prison, I can't tell you in detail. I got internet, I was dead, I can't tell you in detail.
All the politics behind the events I made, I got internet, I can't tell you in detail.
All the politics behind the events I made, I can't tell you in detail. Not now is the time to tell. Right. Because you're still in the process. When you get here, people will hear the story. Because the road of success. If now, you're still on the road.
You know? Keep it. Yes, and I know, I mean, it's the same as God first gave me the problem that I was almost in prison, for this moment, if not, maybe I'm crazy. Yes, I said, enlarge your soul. Because if God has shown someone,
God knows how to grow it, grow the situation. And all these problems for me, important for you to be noted.
That's all.
Yes, happy and I mean, God still gave me a big soul to see all of that. It was a real power, because everyone was so close, and everyone was asking me how I was doing. I still felt like I could say, I was okay. And it was really okay, not like I was doing something wrong.
I felt like, if it wasn really okay, not that I'm okay, I feel like if it wasn't from God, it wouldn't be possible. There are many who love it, all of that. Because behind all the praise, there must be someone who cares. Finally, we have to close this with an important lesson in 2025, where Bion experiences sharp tingles that make a jealous emotional. Yeah, this is the road of emotional of a jealous in Beyond Kombat.
Is there anything else you want to say as a closure to all the fighters and the audience. As usual, and in every monologue, when I answer your questions, stay sane, stay healthy, stay healthy, stay healthy. For all of you who still care, thank you. For all of you who give suggestions, thank you. Everything will be used to sharpen it up again, to make Beyn even more.
Especially me personally and the team, you guys are really helpful. Without all of this, I'm sure there will be more big problems that I can't catch if I don't experience this first. Don't get through this first. And then, thank you to everyone who still cares, has expectations, and also gives a chance beyond to be able to prove the results of this big evaluation. This is like a big evaluation and correction. There are a lot of things that are out of my control, that can be a button now in my company,
where there is a study case, where we cannot go to this place again. So don't do this, don't do this. So there is a study case. Because without a case, we won't know. It's the same, maybe if this happens twice, I don't know, this is like playing poker, you get a card,
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Get started freesuddenly you get a card, not a polo, not a straight, but this is like a royal flush, a very strange combination. You don't know, right? I don't know. Crazy, this is a royal flush. If we hold a royal flush, we're happy,
this is a royal flush, everyone is happy. If we hold the Royal Flush, everyone is not happy. It turns out that IQ 144 can be cheated. I've said that before. It's the same when I told you about me making this podcast with all the problems, right? We talked about it, you were worried about me.
I said, don't worry, this is how it goes. Because there is a risk that we have to take. It's the problem of the people. But I have to clarify it, it's weird, right? But that's the way to go to be a big player. Jealous.
Big player.
Amen.
Thank you. Pipis Tapi Buas.
One more time.
No.
Calm down, for all of you who ask a lot. Bion will be back. After these messages. After these messages.
Pipis tapi buas.
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