Charlie Kirk shooting witness says she saw "blood pouring out everywhere"

I want to bring in Ray Don DeShene. She was at the event right now. She saw the attack. She's on the phone right now I hope I'm pronouncing your name, right if you could tell us where you were what you saw what happened

Yeah, so I was clear up at the front so they had like the tent set up for where Charlie was going to be and then they had like the cattle grade set up and with a walkway for the For the people that were going to debate him. And then I was the grate right behind it.

So I was right by the walkway, so I was right up front.

And then what happened? When the actual shot was fired, where were you? What did you see or hear?

So I was—he was just talking to the second debater. And ironically, it was about the transgender shooter, and they're talking about not allowing them to purchase firearms, and he was talking back and forth with the guy, and then all of a sudden, I hear up top, I think it got his carotid.

I just saw him grab, it looked like his neck, and there's just blood pouring out everywhere. And if I kind of rolled back. And at that point I kind of looked up to the town like it came up from behind me up the hill. And it was just one pop.

And then we all dropped to the ground and then they told us all to run. So we all ran out.

Yeah, I'm imagining pandemonium at that point did you see medical personnel attend to him? And what happened after that?

By the time I looked up, he was already out. He was already out of the tent. There were some police officers up there. There was a security. There was no metal detectors or anything for us to go through. They didn't even check our tickets.

What about the gunman any any sense of what became of the I don't know if it's a man or

The person who fired the shot.

No I didn't see anything. I just dropped when everybody else dropped and then I ran when they told everybody to run.

So you described it as a debate that was going on. So it was debating a debate between Charlie and someone else or just a yeah.

Yeah, he got me wrong. And basically you know, if you're right winger and you know very very very very good at his debate and he invites mostly college kids go and debate him. And you know a lot of them were you know had a lot of same

views but there was something that may be a little bit off that they don't quite agree

with.

So they're they're just trying to you know debate him back and forth on on their views versus

his.

So it sounds like people from all points on the political spectrum. What about the atmosphere the

mood.

What was it like leading up to that. Now we're all on bond we were shouting, you know USA and Charlie Kirk and listening to them. You know 80's music like Queen and and not and just got to pump up.

We're just all having a good time like a festival kind of atmosphere want to ask you about security what was that like as you entered this and what kind of area is this?

There was none. It was like, so when you walked in there, it was like a, in the crevice of a couple of buildings with a little bridge across it. And then behind it was like a grassy open area with a little bit of sitting that's kind of in a stadium seating.

But it was like a little hill. And this is on the campus of Utah Valley University. Yeah. Are you a student there or do you have an affiliation with the

university? No I'm old, I'm in my 50s so a lot of these people were college-age students but there was there was quite a few actually I would say that were

around my age too. And where did you get out you ran out of there where'd you go

and where what did everybody else do who was with you? We all just ran to our vehicles and I don't know where everybody's scattered. I don't know if some of them were students that had to catch a bus or whatever, but the ones that had cars, we all ran to our cars. I mean, I parked a little ways away,

so it was a little bit of a trek, but it was fine.

But again, interesting as you point out no security open area right there at Utah Valley University. Radon Dushin I really appreciate your insight and your telling us your story. Dushin I really appreciate your insight and your telling us your story. We thank you for that.