Chiefs' First Win, Thiccest Sixes and Leonardo DiCaprio & Benicio del Toro's First Podcast | Ep 156

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He's here. He's here. Let's go.

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Keep the cool. Keep it cool.

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They're they're here. Keep it cool.

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Keep it cool. I'm super excited.

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This is fucking so bad. Play it cool, guys.

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Leo DiVenizio, let's go!

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And what's up, Travis? What's up, Jason?

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How are you guys doing, man?

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It's an honor being interviewed by you guys.

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Thank you.

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Our first podcast, fellas. Podcast fellas, this is the first one. Oh my gosh. We don't know what's going on

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Welcome back to new heights ladies and gentlemen boys and girls a wondry show brought to you by Reese's Oreo cups. Ah I'm telling you if you haven't tried these

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You're not going to be disappointed. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce, my big brother, Jason Kelce out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Our Cincinnati Bearcats are coming to Kansas this week. They got the Jayhawks.

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Shout out to Matt Nagy, his son, Tate Nagy. He's a freshman over there. are coming back to the let's go let's go stay on the wind train baby subscribe on YouTube laundry plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new height show with one s for fun clips throughout the week Jason yeah let's just tell the people we got coming up we got a fun one we have a really fun one we got a coming off of two wins for this past week for the

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Kelsey brothers the Chiefs officially win against the New York Giants and the Big Apple. Getting that monkey off the back. We'll also get into the real reason behind the Birds comeback, the rest of an insane week three, and Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio Del Toro are here.

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Oh!

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So I don't know how the fuck we got these guys. Yeah, this is kind of crazy.

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How the fuck did we get these guys?

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I don't know.

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They're going to talk to us about- Dude, what is this show? It's pretty crazy. Oh my God, dude. We got to make this feel a little more professional. I don't know if there's anything we're lock in. Let's get to some of that. A new news coming in.

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old film clubs, Heights Hotlines, yada yada, available to everyone. So go check those out on whatever platform you prefer. And we also got some new news in Kansas City this Friday Kansas City the Kelsey car jam is back baby this Friday. That is it's this Friday, man I'm gonna break out the old school. I'm gonna break out some some new old schools that I got We got a 1990 Jeep Wrangler with the wood grain on the side Let's go baby, let's go I think was made 1989, baby. It's a good year 92 percenters

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We want to remind you guys the Kelsey car jam is this Friday? We'll have an amazing block party style event that showcases some of the city's top automobiles Including some of my personal there will be food. There will be drinks There will be games and a whole lot of fun for everyone. There's only a few tickets left, so get yours now. Proceeds benefit 87 and Running, my foundation that helps out underserved youth

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in both the Kansas City area and back home in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, just the Cleveland surrounding area. Two cities that I absolutely fucking love. So please show up, it's gonna be a blast, it always is. And thank you for everybody in the foundation, 87 and Running fucking love so please show up it's gonna be a blast it always is and thank

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you for everybody in the the foundation 87 running for putting this on every single year blows my mind and I can't wait to see it this Friday when Casey comes up and shows out baby no doubt it's a fun one every year highly recommend it is operation breakthrough gonna be there again yeah right all the time all the time it It'll be great. All right now last bit of new news Jason Got a new side quest

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Jason Travis Are you working on your saxophone skills? It was the first time I played in a long time. It was uh, I Thought you fucking crushed it. Well, this is how I know you crushed it because I didn't hear yours

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Yeah crushed it. And this is how I know you crushed it because I didn't hear yours.

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Yeah, no, that's why it was good. And as long as you don't, either you were faking it or you were sounding good enough to where it didn't sound like a middle school orchestra where there was like that one fucking attitude. No, I was doing it. I was definitely doing it. You just couldn't hear it because it wasn't a loud enough instrument on its own. But dude, what an epic fucking song. Are you kidding?

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Yeah. What? Yeah. When they were like, we're going to do the Monday night countdown theme. I was like, all right. And I picked up the sax that morning and I was like, all right, I got to see if I can

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play this thing. I haven't played this thing in forever. a sound at this music store. I was so bad. And I picked it up and I'm starting to play it a little bit. And I'm like, all right, you know what? I can do this. What did you play? Little Hot Cross Buns?

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I did do a little bit of Hot Cross Buns. A little...

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Let's go.

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Mary Had a Little Lamb? Mary Had a Little Lamb. Dude, I remember this shit like it was yesterday. The easy ones and then I went right into it. And like for those of you that don't know, Barry Sacks. Take me back to middle school and you would practice every fucking day. Barry Sacks for marching band is,

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whenever you're doing marching music and you're a bass instrument, you're pretty much just going bum bum bum bum bum bum while the brass and everybody else are kind of doing the melody. It was not the hardest piece of music and I still found a way to fuck it up. But it was, it was fun. It was fun. Nobody knew you fucked it up, dude. I fucking thought you crushed it. The bit that they did, where they actually showed like the full song, bro, I was, I was a proud brother.

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And I couldn't hear you fucking up so you know you must have played it perfect. That's good I mean, I just kind of fit in that was getting a lot of help from a lot of the marching band members there So these guys are awesome. We're gonna play it here So bad ass. I loved every fucking second of it.

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Appreciate it.

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I was sitting on the fucking couch, waiting to hear your take on the Eagles game. Wait to hear your take on the fucking Sunday night game. And here you are with a fucking marching band, which I fucking tell everybody you are a linebacker that had the most tackles in the game. They'll run it back. They had the most yards in the game and you were, you played in the place of Archie man at halftime, which you didn't do. But no, never, never did.

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You could have.

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You could have.

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And I asked the question, why not, Jason? Because I was making halftime adjustments. All right. And yeah, there were a lot of halftime adjustments. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

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I was trying to catch my breath. But yeah, no, it was fun. I put the hat on and it was like, I think it could have fit if I would have readjusted it. I was like, no, this is perfect. It reminded me. You remember the movie Drumline?

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Do I remember Drumline? The one guy right before they get into the fight, they're doing it and he's got the thing is he's too fat and the things just in his teeth while he's doing it. Is that what it is? Yes. We can pull up that picture.

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That was in my head.

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Like, I put it on. I was like, I feel like the kid, that guy in the fucking movie. And I'm like, yeah. And then they're like, we can we adjust. I was like, no, no, no. This is the way it needs to be.

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Don't be a justice. This needs to be comedic in some way. So, yeah, that was good. Sky's just gonna be in every marching band known to man. Definitely not. Not gonna make this a thing. Every marching band in the NFL, Monday night, Jason's hitting it. I don't think there's many marching bands in the NFL.

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I think the Ravens are the one that have a full marching band. It's the largest marching band in all of the NFL. 150 people in it. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, it's a full marching band. It was pretty legit. And I like promoting the arts and promoting music and to have

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an instrument on my hand. Like, I think a lot of times you don't get to see that side. You made it look so cool, dude. I did not make it look cool. I want to play saxophone. Yeah, you did. I want to wear a hat with a chin strap on my nose. Yeah, well, you just have a big head. I do. That's that's a Kelsey. It's a Kelsey trait. Thanks, Ed.

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It was awesome. It was a lot of fun. They every they were more than accommodating and made it super easy for me, which I appreciate you guys. Baltimore Ravens marching band. That was a lot of fun. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Sorry for being really shitty at saxophone now, but had a blast.

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Hold on. Do you want to see it? All the pictures your mom sent us?

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Mom had a bunch of pictures. Yeah, that's when I was... Oh my fucking gosh. That's when I was playing alto sax before I switched to Barry. Dude, look at this. It's a young Jason Kelsey Dude look at that what a fucking guy All right a big props to our partner Reese's Oreo cups Reese's cups with Oreo cookie crumbs inside

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All right now Jason,

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you've been retired for a full year. Let's talk pregame rituals. Do you miss them still have them? I kind of have one I guess for Monday night countdown, like I kind of, I go do the production meeting. Then I kind of iron out what's happening in the rundown. Then I go to the makeup lady, then I go to the hair and then I go on set.

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I was just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your new broadcasting routine. That's all. Well, first and foremost, it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice, which is finally starting to show some of my grays again after dyeing it, I'm getting those natural colors back. Thank you, thanks so much.

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from week three. Let's start with the Chiefs game. Little Chiefs 22, Giants nine on Sunday night. Back in the win column, baby. Back in the win column, let's fucking go. Does it feel good? It does feel good.

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That was not a great performance, but a win is a win. It's hard to win in the NFL, man. And I'll take a win any way I can get it. This is the first ever road win against the Giants in franchise history. Do you know that? It's pretty crazy.

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Our franchise record against the Giants is pretty insane. What is it? It was like four and 13 or something like that.

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Wow.

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I guess you think about it, like the Giants used to be good. I don't think I've ever beaten the Giants up until today. I lied, I've beaten them before. When you got into the league, the Giants were just fading away from that, like Eli Manning, Super Bowl era Giants. And they still had Eli Manning and they still beat us, yeah.

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Yeah, but they weren't Super Bowl era Giants anymore. Because my second year, 2012, was the second Super Bowl they got, right? Damn, you're like a dinosaur man that was my second year in the league I remember Marnie morning wig we went to the holiday party we were kind of out of it already and I remember asking Marty like hey who do you think is gonna like win the Super Bowl this year this Giants are like eight and eight like nothing special he's like honestly I think the Giants are

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gonna well they're peaking at the right time their defense is stacked and he called that shit. They went on a run and freaking won the whole damn thing. So, so that's the Spags. Yeah, there we go. All righty. Well, you guys got it done this week in the Meadowlands. Yes, we did. A little frustrating first half. It was a lot closer than it probably needed to be. Chiefs settled for three field goals in the red zone. Is that right? All of them. It was big red zone. I think we got past the 30. We got hit with a few penalties that put us in third and longs and yeah, kind of kicked ourselves once we crossed the 50. But Harrison Bucker right there to punch him through force and get points on the board. I will say it feels like we're rolling. It feels like we're

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we're starting to get this thing going on offense. Our defense is playing stellar, both this game and last. Absolutely phenomenal performances and stopping the run is the biggest thing. Our DBs are playing really good. We had a few turnovers,

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and when you win the turnover battle, you typically win the game. Helps out. Helps out. And one of the craziest plays I've ever seen in my entire career was the Pat Mahomes pass

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that ended up being a backwards pass that he then went and ripped it out of. I don't think that any other quarterback makes this play, dude, this was such. What the fuck was that? There was so much chaos in my mind,

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of I turned around, like what, we got it back? What do you think is going into Pat's head right there? Right when the ball hits the ground. What's he just? Oh, fuck. No, but he's doing it in the right voice.

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He's like, Come here, boy.

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He's like, Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, yeah.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Get it, dude. I told him afterwards, I'm like, bro, I still don't know how in touch. It's so insane from that angle. He just comes out of nowhere. That boy got heart, man.

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It did feel like you guys are starting to get rolling on offense. Defense, like you said, has been playing pretty dang well, right? I mean, especially the last couple weeks they've been playing well. And you got pop going, you got the run game kind of active. And then, you know, it felt like Pat started, especially in the second half taking those shots. We've seen Thornton open down the field for a couple games.

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Now, I was waiting for it to kind of happen. And all of a sudden, it started popping form Hollywood Brown made a couple big catches. Hollywood's been playing fucking outstanding. He's been that safety net for Pat. And I think we're going to keep getting this thing rolling, man. Hopefully we get Xavier back here soon and got Rasheed Rice back in the building. I know we don't get to see him for another three weeks, but he'll get his engine rolling

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and practices and back in the building and get the swagger back of having the whole unit together, man. Doggone. And even Juju Smith's usually, I can't say enough about what Juju is to this team. His energy, his accountability, he's always in the right spot, always there for Pat, especially in the rollouts, has a good feel for the game and the offense and just feeling out zones and being in the right place at the right time, man.

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Just always accountable in the run game as well. So I think we're starting to catch some momentum as an offense. And I think that comes with, like you said, getting Pop going, getting Kareem going, and these big guys up front being able to just get off the ball and move guys.

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And that'll help out the pass game a lot. And then it just felt like between pop the receivers and whatever time somebody came a ball, got a ball thrown to them or they got a chance to make a play. Everyone was fighting and running and like there were broken tackles. It felt back to like some vintage like Chiefs just like speed and energy and effort and it was just fun to watch. It was a lot of fun to

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watch this past week. Second half felt a lot more like I still feel like in the first half, even though the points didn't get there, it felt like guys were breaking tackles. It felt like guys were making plays. You know what I mean? Whereas it's felt like for the last couple of weeks where it's, you know, even when the completions are made, it's like almost like a tackle happens right away or you know, Pat isn't able to find anybody. So he takes off for one. I felt like now guys were going out making incredible catches, right? Like that Thornton catch down the field was a fucking

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fantastic play. I have right after he, uh, he did he, what happened? He got a penalty, right? He, no, no, no. He caught the one right before and as he's going down, as he's going down to the ground elbow, that's what it was. That's what it was. Thank you. Thank you. And then to come back and to make that second one, I'm like, Oh my God, how the hell he caught that? Just puts the point up in the air. Like I got it. I got this one. No doubt. No doubt about it. Boom. That is such a great catch. Fallen and like sticking your hands out, man. He is, dude, he's been you love that dude, man.

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You've mentioned this kind of even on the side. You've been waiting for this kid to kind of come on. He was a steal. I don't know how he got out of New England, man, but we're appreciative that they let him go. He's a smart football player, sure hands, on top of that, can run with the best of them, a big body, long arms, you know,

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it's just he's a smart football player. Smart football players are gonna fuckin' thrive in this offense because Coach Reed's gonna put you in positions to where you get those one-on-one matchups, man, if you know how to attack it, good things are gonna to fucking happen. And I think him, Hollywood, Juju, we've been rolling.

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And we've been getting this thing kind of geared in the right direction. And I think Pat's just going to keep dialing it in as we go, baby. I can't imagine being a quarterback back there and trying to make decisions because the amount of things you're trying to process on a play-by-play basis is intense. And the more you build chemistry with guys, I've got to think it makes those decisions a lot easier. And with Pat, it feels like-

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1000%. Yeah. With Pat, it feels like obviously he has great chemistry with you. He's got great chemistry with Juju because he's played together. A lot of the other guys, that is still kind of being developed in games and like no great. Another guy had. Yeah, that's right.

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No, I had a bunch of fucking. They didn't seem like big gains. Yeah, he had about 30 close to 30 yards. Uh, yeah, you know, yards called back just because of penalties and stuff.

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Right, right, right. Still, the the smaller, the the short gains of like six to ten yards that that you're seeing with just underneath routes and him getting vertical. I mean, that kind of stuff gets it gets you a fresh set of downs. It gets you a third in short, you know, I mean, you're manageable situations. All that trust that you're talking about that gets built up in the off season and training camp and just being accountable in games.

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That just makes one five job so much fucking easier. He doesn't have to think about, you know, where you're going to be or anything like that. He can kind of just feel the game out from that point on. And man, when when he's out there, just, you know, letting the game come to him and feeling the game out and just being the ball player he is, man, he's the best player in the world. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what, it's obvious that he's building chemistry with all the guys out there, but I mean, the more he's building the chemistry with Tyquan Thornton, I just think, you know,

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it's going to open up so much underneath if that big play, big strike ability comes up. It's, it's, it makes it much, much harder to defend everything you guys are doing. And either way, that moment was a spark and I think the spark probably had been lit for a while for the Chiefs, but it started clicking after that. We also got a shout out, one 92 percenter who made it to the game, Erica Dusherman. Is your grandma's motherfuckers? I was waiting for the touchdown. Were you going to punch your grandma? Did you have

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a grandma in mind? I didn't see any older women or anybody dressed up like a grandma. Nobody was asking for it?

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Like a grandma, yeah.

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Everybody was hiding them. Yeah, I really didn't have too many chances to get a touchdown in this game, but man, we were rolling as an offense. When you put up some big scores, man, who gives a shit? Dude, the sign was in fact confiscated. What?

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I guess you can't cuss on. You probably can't cuss or threaten grandmas. I think both of those are probably prohibited at Meadowlands or most NFL stadiums. We're gonna get you to punch a grandma at some point this year. Dude, I'm not punching anybody's grandma

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unless you dress up like a grandma. I'm coming to a Chiefs game at some point this year dressed as a grandma. And if you don't punch me, I'm going to be furious. I can't wait for the NFL to find me for that one.

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Go ahead.

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Any thoughts on the rest of the game? You guys got the Ravens coming up, coming off a big loss game. Yeah, they're going to be hungry, man. They're going to be hungry and pissed off, man. I'm sure they felt like they've handed these last two games away. Even though the Lions played a hell of a fucking Lions room, it was honestly I came away more impressed with the Lions than anything

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because I think I think the Ravens are legit, like unbelievable team. They are. And I still think they are. But the Lions, especially off of that week, one thing that happened in Green Bay. It's like, oh, yeah, there's a lot of questions. Yeah, they play better against Chicago. Let's see how they do against Baltimore.

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They were them Dan Campbell lions across the board. Like they didn't do they did some creative monster but they also run game. Yeah, well, they they were they lost Frank rag now this offseason retirement Zeitler left, but they went back they were doing some creative stuff. But there was also just like dude, they were lining up and running right at him. So they were running duo up and down the field. I don't know what play it was, some version of jab, rub, or just like...

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There was some creative stuff off of it, but for the most part, it was pretty obvious. They got a big edge and they ran right at him. There's not many things that are more deflating, demoralizing than a team that just lines up and you know what's coming and it still is coming at you like it was an impressive impressive game for the Detroit Lions and you're right Baltimore I mean you know John Harbaugh he's in there this week oh come on I think they got enough guys and enough vets on that team to where it doesn't I don't even

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think it takes Harbaugh to come in and challenge. Those guys are gonna want to get that shit fixed themselves. I expect them to be fucking rockin' and rollin' and coming in there. But I'm excited for the challenge baby. Excited for the challenge. Excited to take this thing up and hold on to it. This is why we play the fucking game baby. Let's move on to some other football news out of week three. Some other big stories Eagles 33 Rams 26. Let's get to your birds brother Jason you and Kylie were at the link for this game. We were getting some updates on what was going on as it

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wasn't going well for the birds to start off. It's terrible, terrible start. Well actually to start the game it went incredibly well. Yeah, they dialed up a I don't know. We called it a replacement blitz or simulated pressure. What's it feels like a blitz, but it's really only a four man rush. Zach Bohn read Stafford's eyes just like very well.

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I love a player, man.

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And like typical quarterback, like you felt the blitz come throw where the blitz came from should be a hole there. And Zach just made an incredible play and started out, capitalize on that, scored a touchdown, little tush push action, and all of a sudden we're up 7-0. I think this game, yeah, there we go.

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Eagles are back! And then it was, proceeded to be about two quarters of some of the most horrendous Eagles football I've seen in a long time. It was bad. It was bad. It was bad. I mean, I've been the way it's ended for me wasn't great either,

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but I think we had five three and outs. But you want to talk about like struggling. We were struggling. And you start here in the booze or. Oh, my gosh. Second drive.

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They you know, it was like one of those were like it was like a third and long situation. and like I feel like it's hard. Like what do you call you go you go to a screen, you go to a draw

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to like try and just get something back because you know you're not picking it up.

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And then immediately it's like, boo. And it's like, yeah, I mean, I feel it. I get you. I get you. But it was tough. You know, listen, first of all, the Rams are a great team. Their defensive line is stacked. Their offense is stacked. You know, they they do not have fucking top quarterback

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and he's been doing it for a long time. Devante Adams Puka Nakua like they are loaded. Kyron Williams was I mean, that was the one thing that was the most surprisingly I'll run defense has been pretty good and Kyron was he was giving it to us for a couple quarters there and the Rams are playing a hell of a game. They had a hell of a plan coming in. And it feels like a lot of the times when you're caught in

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that moment where you're going three and out, you just need one play to kind of happen to get some momentum going and it just wasn't. And you go into the game with all these openers and everything for especially first and second down. And sometimes they're just not there and you're just waiting to get a play off. And it just like, it was just like a nonstop sack here. You know, they missed an assignment here. The safety's rotated. The rally. It was like a perfect worst. It was just like a never ending, just kind of misfortune

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as well as like poor performance. Ended the half with negative one passing yards, which is, I mean, impressive, but not the impressive stat that you want. I mean. And times where that's happened before, one of the things I think the Eagles have done a great job, especially with Jalen, is just going on the ball. Let's get into like our bread and butter. Let Jalen be point guard, right? It was fun to watch in the second half because you got to see,

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you know, what these guys are capable of when they are performing at their best. And everybody's been waiting for AJ Brown to have a game this year. It's been a frustrating start to the season for him, I'm sure,

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and for the entire team and for him to go out there and just like not even the first catch over the shoulder. He had a third down catch where he's two yards short, right? And he's throwing people off of him. I mean, that is incredible. Well, everybody loved watching the second half except for Kylie.

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Well, Kylie is very superstitious, as we all know. And you know what? Everybody doesn't mess around with these superstitions one of my favorite like TV show episodes of all time is how much the fan superstition really fucking matters and it was your episode on always

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Sure enough she turns around one time and just says you know what go ahead Why don't you tell this story and how it all unfolded? But honestly, we she turned around. I think this was right before the drive to the with the big throw to AJ. And I like we're all celebrating because we finally got some going offensively. I look back and Kylie's seat about, she said, we got to change the mojo.

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We got to change the mojo up. She started switching around and then we end up scoring that drive and it's like, yeah, Kai, I'm sorry. You're not allowed to turn around. It wasn't even me saying that. Like, Kyle was saying to me like, Hey, Jade, sorry. I'm going to be turned this way watching the rest of this game. Can you give me some updates? And then it was working out so well that Hannah Einbinder joined in right here. She started looking the other way. It was a full team effort of anything they could do to try and send the juju their way. I mean, it was an awesome second half. It's not the way you want

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to win in the NFL, right? Like, full disclosure, the Rams should have won that game. Like, they outplayed the Eagles. But sometimes things aren't going to go your way. You're going to what you what you expect and prepare for. It doesn't happen. And you struggle and to be able to, you know, get a win when you play like that and the game gets dictated like that. To not quit when you're down 26 to seven in the third and to keep fighting and clawing to the very end and to come out victorious, I just thought was an amazing outcome for what otherwise was an abysmal day

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for the Philadelphia Eagles, right? So They get to move forward now and I guarantee they're gonna be hard at work fixing this right? They're gonna be hard at work How do we get out? starting better and it's one of those where one of the problems when you win is that things kind of get masked and one of The great things about when you lose is like everybody's motivated to make all these corrections because we just lost a football game. This is one of those where like it feels like we lost. So I feel like a lot of the coaches are motivated to correct some things. But at the same time,

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we didn't lose. We won with one of the most spectacular finishes to a game I've ever seen with Jordan Davis. I mean, blocking not only blocking it, picking it up and running it back for a touchdown. And by the way, like at 300 and whatever fucking pounds he is, what a fucking beast. And I could not be happier for this kid. He is such a workhorse. He has matured so much. He started hitting the weave. He's like, dude, I know I'm getting caught. You love it when it happens to good dudes, man. And not only were the Eagles fans going crazy because the Eagles just won, the spread was

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three and a half. So even if it's just a block, like most of the fans in that stadium are losing because they're taking the spread as well. And all of a sudden, his man picks it up, runs it back for six. A lot of Eagles fans were extremely happy on that. SVP bad bad beats. That is a definition of a bad beat.

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That's a great play that's illustrated how far he's come. You know what I mean? Like he's always had the potential and to see how he's gotten his second year, third year, third year, third year guy. Oh, I apologize. To him, I'm actually might be fourth. See a fourth year. He was the year before Jalen. I played a year with Jalen. This is Jalen's third year, so it's got to be his fourth season.

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Interesting.

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So J.D., he came in like a young kid. And I just think that you see the maturity and the growth that he's had as a person and a player He's gotten his weight under control. He's in better shape than he's ever been in and it's paying dividends on the field He is playing lights out in the middle of the defense right now And that was just like an awesome moment to really solidify him on the national stage So happy for Jordan Davis and everything he's put in to get to this point and happy the birds were able to get a win man. How about it? Fat guy TDs

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man most exciting thing so far every time it'll never not be the most exciting shit you'll ever see. Fat guys, fat guys running period man. It's the best. You get some big boys fucking hauling ass man. That is one of the great things.

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It's one of the great things.

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It's one of the great things about football is that on one side you have like Tyree Kill, who is just like the most agile human being I've ever seen. And then on the same field, you have this Jordan Davis, three hundred and forty pounds, and he's still like an incredible athlete in his own right. I mean, I'm even outside of that. You got offensive linemen that can't even get up to like 15 miles an hour running out there. Oh yeah.

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It's just the disparity of athletes and body types in the game of football will never like get old to me. It's just so fun to watch. It's a beautiful thing, baby. Final thoughts on the game? Final thoughts are I think I'm happy that we won. Damn happy that we won. We got a lot to fix. been dedicating resources and everything to defeating Philadelphia. And I thought they had a great plan coming in their players played hard. And for the Eagles to win despite a lot of bad play and

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and things not going their way. I mean, that's kind of about as good as you can ask. And now they get to make the corrections moving forward. Half of our fucking wins were like this last year. Seriously, there's something about teams and players. And I know the Jalen thing has been brought up. Like, everybody just says, like, all this dude knows how to do is win. And I really do think that the Eagles are uniquely positioned in their mindset of like, they want to win and they're collectively

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motivated in how they prepare and perform and everything is designed to just increase the optimal chances of that happening and it's one of the reasons why they ended oftentimes end up getting it done. The Eagles game also gave us a new football term the wrong game dickhead. Wrong game dickhead. Wrong game dickhead. What's that? Anybody wrong game dickhead. Wrong game dickhead, wrong game dickhead, what's that?

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Anybody who wears a jersey that's not Eagles or Rams is a wrong game dickhead. Like that's what it is. That's a fair point.

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And then.

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The offense guy right there. He's a wrong game dickhead.

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Or the guy with the Imani 200 jersey right here. Why would you go to an Eagles and Rams game and wear an opposing jersey like that? Like, it makes no sense. Wear a white t-shirt. Wear a black t-shirt. If I see that, I'm gonna call you out, you're gonna be on my Instagram as wrong game dickhead.

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Can people follow that somewhere? JoeyD3444, Instagram, for all the wrong game dickheads.

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Follow me.

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That's pretty fucking good.

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I can get on board with that. I get on board with it too. I mean, that's like, you know, you go over to like London or some of these international games. That's a different, that's a different world. They don't get to see football as much. It does feel weird when you're at a game and you see a jersey that's not of one of the

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two teams playing. It's like, what are we, what are we doing here? You're just announcing that you don't care about this game. Like, I don't understand what the purpose of this is. Like you're a Justin Jefferson fan. I get it. You're you're yeah, this is great, but this isn't the time to be. I'd rather just wear another sport at that point. Like just wear like a New Jersey devil's jersey. What the fuck are we doing? It's fucking funny. Anyways, I can get on board with that for sure. We also have an insane witching hour in the span of 15 minutes. Talk about one of the most insane 15 minutes of NFL football watching Sunday from this

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past week. The Eagles obviously blocked a field goal, then scored a go ahead touchdown, then blocked a game winning field goal with a scoop and score. That was an insane 15 minutes, but also in that same time frame, the Browns down 10, nothing tied it at 10, then blocked a game winning field goal from the other team only for a few plays later to kick their game winning field goal. The Jets were down

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23 to six and Tampa is kicking a game ceiling field goal to go up nine. The Jets block the field goal score to go ahead 27-26. Baker then, of course, like Baker does, leads another fourth quarter game winning drive. Seven game winning scores in final three minutes on Sunday ties a record for a single week. In total-

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Football's better than it's ever been, baby. It is. I mean, this is why it's the best. This is why it's the best. It's been it's better than it's ever been, man.

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Fuck.

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In total, four blocked field goals in the fourth quarter on Sunday is the most in a single day since at least 1991. Have you guys been talking about this? Like, why are the block kicks feel like they're way up? Why are people trying to get rid of kicking? kicking. What are you talking about punts? No dude everybody's like over here like why is kicking a part because it's a fucking electric play. Well it is when you block it it's not electric when they just are making 60 yarders like it's

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fucking nothing. Still electric. No. But the it's electric because you're sitting there waiting to see whether he's going to make this 60 yarder for the game or it's going to get blocked. Well that's everybody's point is that it's been too easy to make these longer field goals now and people are tired of it not being like, oh, is he going to make it? But now, yeah, I mean, listen, if people are blocking for field goal kicks, yeah, I'm in. Let's fucking go.

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I'm in on this. There's nothing more exciting than a walk off home run. Think about the ending again. Blackie, a kick Jordan, scooping and scoring. That is like a walk off of all walk offs, right? That is insane.

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Percent it is.

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Gosh, that's epic.

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All right.

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Is any sport ever going to come close to NFL? No, it's not. Because no other and here's why No other sport plays this many games at one time Like the NFL one o'clock time slot in the four o'clock time slot You know, you're gonna get so much action in the span of eight hours. It's the greatest

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That's what everybody looks forward to it every single week It's all at the same time and like I get I'm I'm sitting in the stadium and I'm trying to watch the game. And I'm also on my app watching YouTube TV, other games. I'm checking the scores on ESPN. I'm like, you being a fan, you don't know this yet because you're still playing. Being a fan is fucking incredible.

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And you know, I don't want a fan first. You're acting like I haven't been a fan of this my entire fucking life. Yeah, you're going to find out. You're going to be seeing it a lot more when you're fucking at the game on one o'clock and all this shit's happening across the league. And you're fucking that. That was like your fucking one o'clock games.

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Whatever. You're not. But you don't appreciate it the same way until you're done. still so focused into the Chiefs and I still love the Eagles but now I'm looking at more of like everything happened to cross the league. One o'clock on Sunday is like fucking let's go baby. God damn that's a fun time to watch. Alrighty, last thing for week three. This tweet was during Thursday Night Football but we thought it was important to address it. From got CTE from playing peekaboo. That's funny. Ineligible man downfield penalties are fat phobia to office alignment.

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Let the big men grow where they damn well, please. I love the tweet. I think it's hilarious.

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Hilarious tweet.

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But in as much as I would love to go downfield, I do think it's pretty unfair. If a blind man is downfield engaged with a linebacker who's supposed to be covering like a hook the curl. I think we can agree that we should not allow linebackers. I would love to run a shallow cross with Creed Humphrey blocking the guy that I'm running away from. It seems a bit unfair from a play action standpoint on what linebackers, as if what linebackers are being asked to

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do isn't hard enough. We're going to make this impossible for you to tell whether it's a runner pass. Epic. So yeah, no, I'm very happy that it is a penalty. If anything, I think they could make it two yards. It used to be one yard in a healthy two.

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Now they've they've they go more by the letter of the law. Like, no, you get a yard and that's it. We're done with the RPOs going a little bit further. I do think there's some that are called that are borderline enough on screens and whatnot, where it doesn't really impact another player that end up getting called. And I think that's kind of bogus. But

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also, if you guys, if the offensive lineman engages within a yard, yeah, you can block him as far as you want. Yeah. Yes. So I don't know. I think the I think the rule is just fine the way it is. But sometimes defensive players know this now and they can disengage with you in it. You can still get called. That's

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happened to me before where you start blocking a D tackle at the line of scrimmage. You got him two or three yards on the field and he'll throw you. And now that I'm not engaged, I'm technically downfield. But the only reason I was engaged was because I was blocking a guy within that yardage. I think that shouldn't be a penalty, personally. But either way, the rule's good enough. I think offenses really pushed the limit on this stuff a couple of years ago. And I think the league, rightfullyfully so to make it fair for defenses got it back in line with where the law the the rule and the intent of what it's trying to limit does what would happen if everyone's

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eligible to catch a ball I mean I don't know it would if everyone's eligible to catch a ball it would be you would just it would have to drastically change how defense is taught. And the creativity for offense is so great already. If everybody's able to catch a ball, it would open up a lot more creativity. And it just feels like it'd be too much. I'm not a fan of it. Part of that's probably just because I know the game and the way it is right now. But like, thinking of a guard sloughing

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off and like somebody having to be responsible to like guard him in case somebody throws him the ball, it just feels like that's a bit too much to me. So I think it's fine just the way it is. I'm also in favor of ineligible numbers. Like I don't want to see offensive linemen starting to wear number one. I fucking hate that the NFL changed the rule for defense alignment. Like I used to love like these iconic numbers that like defensive ends used to wear linebackers used to wear.

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And like now I see like a D.N. and he's wearing number one or number eleven. I'm like, fuck off. Like where number fucking ninety eight or something like that. Like I'm not into this. If you're a big body, you're playing on the line of scrimmage, you should have a big fucking number. I don't want to see this skinny fucking number bullshit.

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I shouldn't be calling out number 11. He's a fucking good player, but I don't even know which 11 you're talking about. Well, every, every offensive tackle in the NFL does Mr. Michael Parsons. Well, he's not a fat boy. If you're playing on the line, you're playing a fat boy position and you need to be playing with it. I just don't like the whole numbers. I really liked that you could tell, just as like a fan, I really liked by like, even like watching a jersey, looking at a jersey.

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I want a quarterback to wear 99. See, I don't want that. I like looking at a jersey and knowing, without even fucking knowing the guy, that guy played. There was something about the numbers signifying what position you played. I just liked. I don't know. I just was a fan of it. I don't like that now the numbers mean nothing on defense. Anybody can wear whatever the fuck they want. And then on offense,

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you still have ineligible numbers. That's kind of fat shaming. Now that's fat phobia. Just offense alignment are restricted to wearing these fucking 50 to 70. Is that what it is, 50 to 80? 79. That's bullshit. Everybody should be restricted. No.

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Receivers are restricted from 80 to what, 100? What was the old rule? Receivers could wear 80 to 100 or like one to 10 or something like that? 80 to 89 and then one to 10. One to 19.

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One to 19. And then running backs were 20 through 40. 29. 2939 4949 20 through 49 linebackers were 40 through 59.

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Yeah.

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Although I think maybe they could wear 60 because Chuck but Derek was 60s. Yeah, he was 60s. Anyways, I used to like that. I don't know, man. I dug that history of it and that the numbers had some type of specific reason to why you're wearing it. You don't agree do you? I don't really. I haven't put too much thought into it. No. Well that does it for bold topics brought to you by Gillette. The best a man

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can get. Stamp of the week is brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. I already gave Isaiah Rogers a stamp of the week on the Hemi nomination on Monday night countdown. So that is my stamp. That is my stamp of the week. But because I gave it on Monday night, I'll do somebody different for our show purposes.

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Twitter user Nancy S. who said intern branding customized. I don't give a fuck about that. Colts running back Jonathan Taylor. I mean, he has been fucking balling. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'll give my stamp to Jordan Davis for blocking a fucking field goal for the win.

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I don't know what, I can't think of a better one than that,

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so I'm going there. That's a good one.

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I'm going, breakout games, I'm going Taekwon Thornton, man. There you go, we'll keep it in the house. We keep it in the house this week, guys. I mean, Taekwon Thornton, a guy that's kind of been knocking at the door, I think, ever since he came to Kansas City last year and just been grinding day in, day out, getting acclimated, showing the coaches he can be trustworthy. But on top of that, just sharpening the iron, just getting in there and perfecting his craft. You love it when a guy comes in and you can see the growth, man. And for him to get a game ball on Sunday night, make the big time plays that he did and help

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propel us into our first win, man, that deserves a stamp from me. I feel like we should start stamping fans of the week. We need a fan stamp of the week. And I think you got to go with the Eagles guy calling out people wearing other jerseys.

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Wrong game.

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Give that guy a stamp. That's a fucking great call. We got to stop it with the nonsense. We'll do players because everybody wants to hear about players, which I guess that makes sense. But I'm more interested.

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What what what is the person at the show? Yeah, show some love to some of that stuff is way more interesting. Sometimes I'm with that. That felt like the one that was like, that was a good rant, a good grind my gear segment that I can get on board with. I'm all in on that. Stamp that motherfucker. Stamp that motherfucker. I don't know what it means, but your stamp, Joey made man made man.

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And the rights community. All right. And once again, that was stamp of the week brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. It's time for our betting segment with our partners DraftKings Sportsbook. All right, let's build some same game parlay, guys. Come on in here.

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Let's talk to you guys.

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We went three for three on Monday, baby.

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We missed one of our best last week. We did hit all three of them on the parlay on Monday night. What are we going with this week? We got Seahawks at Cardinals, a little Thursday Night Football.

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Ooh, OK. All right, Jake, Jake, I'm going to toss it to you. Over under currently at 43 and a half. How are we feeling, Jake?

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All right. So it's a divisional matchup. Got to keep that in mind. You got two defensive minded head coaches. I'm going to take the under in this game, even though it's a relatively low under, but Thursday

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night short week, I'm taking the under here at 43 and a half.

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I like the under two. The Cardinals have been playing really good defense. My man, Nick Rallis, the defensive coordinator. Not a lot of people know that name. I think he's going to be uh I think it'll be a head coach one day. That guy is very talented, very smart. Seahawks offense has probably been putting up some points but I think Cardinals keep this under uh below that total. Ooh we're taking an under rare for us. All right, okay. I hate taking it on. I know, it feels dirty. I don't really like it. Yeah, yeah I mean it's Thursday too. Thursday, it's under under's hit on Thursday. All right, so we're taking the under what else we got two other bets we got to do here. Let's let's do some anytime

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touchdowns. Those are always fun. All right, Marvin Harrison, Jr.

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I think that he since he's struggling, I'm assuming they're going to try and force him the ball and have some plays designed to get him some touches and some touchdowns. If it was somebody else, I would say maybe avoid it, but I think for some reason I feel like they're going to have some plays designed specifically for him. If I'm trying to get a receiver going, they're going to try and have something

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specifically designed for him, I bet. So I'm going, I'd go, I'd go Marvin Harrison anytime touchdown.

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I'll take a Marvin Harrison anytime touchdown.

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All right.

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OK, last one. So we gotta mix it up here. We gotta do both teams. Let's take a look at Seattle. Anytime touchdown, Kenneth Walker or JSN.

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So as much as I love my boy, Sam Darnold, former Jet, I'm gonna think again, we've been talking about the running game. I think if they're close on the red zone, Kenneth Walker, he's a touchdown machine.

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I'm gonna go with Kenneth Walker anytime touchdown.

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This is fucking, I still can't wrap my head around it. You guys are going to love this one. Or you're going to hate it because we're morons. But you'll love that. Keep it cool. Keep it cool. They're here. Keep it cool. Keep it cool. I'm super excited. This is fucking so badass. Play it cool, guys. Leo and Vinicio, let's go!

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What's up, Travis? What's up, Jason? How you guys doing, man? It's an honor being interviewed by you guys.

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Thank you.

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Our first podcast, fellas.

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You remember what's going on?

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Listen, this is the most unprofessional podcast there has ever been. We act as amateurs over here anyways. All right, here we go.

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Jason, you want to do the honors.

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My brother.

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Oh, baby, I guess today between them have four Golden Globe Awards, two Academy Awards. They have starred in 13 films that have been nominated for Best Picture. Combine their films have grossed almost $14 billion at the box office. You know that from their iconic roles in Sicario, Traffic, The Usual Suspects, 21 Grams, Guardians of the Galaxy, as well as Titanic, The Departed, Inception, The Revenant, Walt the Wall Street, and now as the stars of well as Titanic, The Departed, Inception, The Revenant, Waffle Wall, and

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now as the stars of the new movie One Battle After Another. Attitude presenters, please welcome Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio Del Toro!

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What's up fellas?

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What's up?

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Oh my goodness. Thank you.

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That's an intro. That was an intro.

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That was tough.

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That was like the WWF.

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That's what we. That was an intro. That was tough. That was tough. That was like the WWF.

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That was awesome.

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That's what we go for here. All energy, baby.

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Hall of Famer intro, baby.

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How we doing, fellas?

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Doing good?

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We're good, man. Great.

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Thank you.

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Coming to the end of this press tour for this movie, we've been all over the world, haven't

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we? We appreciate your time and the movie is fucking amazing. I can't wait to hear everybody's reviews when it comes out this Friday, man You two in the movie your dynamic is so fucking good and Leo you mentioned that it's political without like Feeling like you're taking medicine and I feel like your guys's dynamic of making it fun and making it like the banter is is great The characters are so great. You feel like you you enjoy all the characters. When you saw the script, did you see the comedy aspects in there

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or like the like the hints of like comedy that are in it?

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I think the comedy came from the writing and the situation that Paul set up. I mean, he based this on like revolutionaries from the late 1960s put in a modern day context. And then you have my character who's just trying to raise a daughter who can't get off the couch, who's too stoned to get off the couch. He can't remember the password from his past.

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And his only homie he can go to is his daughter's karate teacher. The comedy just came from that whole setup. And then I just continue to fail over and over. You think I'm going to use these espionage skills from the past and I just fall off the roofs. We're

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drinking and driving. I mean, yeah, that is one of the greatest parts of the movie is like, but beneath like this very heavy setting of like revolutionary things happening and like bad actors and the government and all this like really it's a it's a movie about a father and a daughter and it's like so relatable on that level and then it's also relatable on like you're doing the best you can but you keep fucking up like the the password scene was just brilliant and like it's now time all these safeguards have been put

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in place to actually help protect us and we can't even get it done because we can't remember the protocols.

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He's got to deal with the horrible customer service.

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It's so good.

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But yeah, there's something about I mean, I'm a sucker for any movie about a father and a daughter, father and a son. Anyway, you strike it like there's just something very like visceral when you're when you see a character trying to protect their child. And you guys just you did a wonderful Leo.

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But he still did a great job of keeping the cool. Had to keep Bob in line. I get always had a beer for Bob when you saw him. And it's just the old man.

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Modelo like a man's best friend.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That all came from Waldo. I mean, I Paul was writing this for 15, 20 years. He wanted to do a movie like this that was, you know, that was politically charged. But at the heart of it, it is a story about a father protecting his daughter.

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I think it was very personal to him, too. He wanted to do a story because he was thinking about his own daughter in this crazy world that we live in, right? Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Well, Leo, you were kind of mentioning before we even started this thing that you had always wanted to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, man. And he's one of the greats. And a guy that, you know, for those that don't know, he writes, he directs, he works a lot of the cinematography.

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Like, there's a lot on that guy's plate going into it. What was it that really made you want to, like, be a part of something or work with him on a project?

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I mean, he's one of those generational filmmakers that come along, you know, once in a lifetime. I remember seeing Boogie Nights for the first time. I was like, damn, this is a cultural moment. I remember playing that CD in my car for months afterwards, just thinking about that movie, the visuals,

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just the fact that he delved into the world of porn and made all this humanity out of it. They created human beings. And then he just kept improving himself after that. I mean, from that point on, Magnolia, Punch Drunk, Love, There Will Be Blood was a masterpiece.

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You just wanna be a part of his filmography. You know what I mean? He's one of those great artists that you say, man, I just love to be a sliver in that man's filmography. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, absolutely. I think that he's one of those few filmmakers out there also that is totally original, unpredictable. And also, like you said, he brings that human condition, which means he cares about the process of the actor too, which makes every actor in this film is fantastic, from small parts, big parts, everyone is fantastic. And that's him.

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We got to work with a lot of non-actors, too, which was cool. You know, we were in El Paso. We were at the border in Tijuana. We were in Borrego Springs, Northern California. And he brings in a lot of people that have these real jobs,

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that are real shop owners, corrections officers, military, brings all these people in and informs, you know, the story. Like, what would you do in this circumstance? And what would you say? So, we got to work with a lot of people that I think informed what

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we were doing in a lot of ways.

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Marshall Bullock Yeah. It shined through in the movie. It really does a great job of humanizing some very heavy things throughout. And it's, I always love that when you're seeing both sides, everybody's acting in like self-interest, human interests, and really letting that shine through is just, it's spectacular when a director nails it as well as he did in this film.

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So well done, fellas.

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Thank you, man.

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Thank you. I kind of wanted to jump on the director bandwagon here. Benicio, you worked with Wes Anderson. Yes. In the Phoenician. And I fucking love that one. It was it was so I just I love the the difference

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in in how both of these guys kind of direct in their own worlds and the the the symmetry and everything. Wes Anderson, what is the biggest difference from a director like Paul and a director like Wes in terms of on set and just for like the viewers that dream about being on a set with these guys and you guys?

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Yeah, I think that Wes is a little bit, he's got everything mapped out. And Paul is mapping it out. He's got a mapped out. And Paul is mapping it out. He's got a playbook too. Paul has a playbook. He knows what he's gonna do, but he allows the actors to go in and find... He's trying to catch the reality in the moment.

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Wes is trying to find the reality in a contained manner. But you can still bring yourself into it. It's just a little bit more rigid, you know, because it's, I think Wes is a little bit more like theater, and Paul is a little bit more like a documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, if you do a play, you gotta know your lines, you gotta like, the blocking's gotta be pretty much stage. And then I think Paul tries to catch that lightning right there on the spot, you know, he tries to catch it right there. I mean, we did many things that, you know,

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are not in the film, but, you know, he's just pushing you to like, not to, you get a chance to improvise quite a bit, but I mean, with Wes' films, you don't as much, but with Paul, you do get to improvise a little bit

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and he might just catch something that was never scripted.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. To add to what he was saying, I mean, there's a lot of sequences. I mean, this is his first kind of action movie, Paul Tumhann. And like we said, he's a master filmmaker. So I was curious what he was going to do in this genre.

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But he had a lot of stuff, action TBD, road trip TBD, that's to be determined. This guy comes in straight from Phoenician scheme and is like, okay, this is what my character is doing. This is what he's not doing. He's got an underground railroad situation for immigrants. I know this person in the hospital. And if you kill this guy, I'm not helping him."

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And we're like, wow. So we went, all this stuff, that was what was so cool about working with Paul.

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We went on a, we just went on a road trip for a week.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, no way. Well, I had to set the pick.

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He had to roll.

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Yeah, I set the picky goals. Yeah, I just went in there. I knew I had to set the pick, you know. I knew that.

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All that driving stuff with the Medello, that happened in two days. Paul's like, all right, let's get a new car. Let's get some sort of a building for him to have this system. We just went on a little road trip for the movie

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because Paul's open to that. You know what I mean, he's not a lot of writer directors, I feel like are very rigid and exactly what they want their film to be. But he let us the actors really shape the characters and just said, all right, let's go somewhere else. Crew, we're moving out West go.

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That had to be so refreshing, man. That's so fucking cool. That's got I mean, that's got to be not only a badge of honor, because he trusts you guys and your professionalism. But that had to be like refreshing coming from other sets, I'm assuming.

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Hey, he trusts me driving that car going thirty five, forty miles an hour with this guy, our protagonist, LD, sitting on the edge of the window. And I'm driving every now and then he will look at me like this. Hey, are you OK?

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It was that eye contact right before. Yeah. But but, you know, he trust he trust his actors a lot. Yeah, I was going to ask who who signed on to this one first between you two.

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I did, man. I did. I got to he's Paul's interesting. He's he starts like a conversation with you. You don't know if you're doing a movie or not doing a movie. It's like, let's go have dinner. I'm like, all right, cool. Let's go have dinner. We're out in Tarzana, some strange restaurant. Just starts talking to you. Then he took us both to dinner, starts talking about ideas. Then he'll maybe whisper about something

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that he might be involved in. You're like, okay, give me a call when that happens. Then four months later, there's another dinner, right? And then I get a picture. This is the character you're gonna play and he sends me a picture of a tiger, you know, it's a poster. It's a tiger dressed in a judo kimono and that's sensei.

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Yeah. Okay. I get it. Okay. I get it. I get it. You know? Oh yeah. There's hints of that throughout the movie too. I remember seeing that in the, in the apartments. Benicio, are you an actual sensei? Do you do martial arts? No, I did a little bit when I was younger. I did a little bit of Taekwondo and I did a little bit of Judo.

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Okay.

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Which Judo was kind of like interesting. There's a couple moves, there's a couple moves, you know, the sweep that is like, can get you out of a lot of jams. But I'm not a sensei. I'm not a sensei.

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Leo, I got to ask you about the taser scene. That was a little bit too good acting.

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Dude, like you beat me to it, dude.

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You got to ask it. Have you actually been tased before? Dude, that was too good, man. You got to have felt that to be able to do that good. I just felt the shock of what it must be like. But no, that was not real. Watched a few YouTube videos and embodied it.

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A lot of people are like, did you do your own stunts? I'm like, hell no, I didn't fall off that roof, man.

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I would not be sitting here.

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I was in tears, dude.

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I would not be sitting here.

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I was in tears, man. That was the cool thing about this character. Every time we got up to the point where, okay, when does Bob do something heroic? And we just were like, nah, let him fuck up again.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He just, he was on his couch getting stoned and then he found out his daughter's gone. He's paranoid, man. He's not going to be able, he's was going to be. You know, we're like, is this where Bob does a heroic moment? And then Paul right there's like, no, what you did is moved on to the next generation. She has to accept the trauma of your actions. You're going to do nothing heroic except be her dad and say, and never, I'm her. Yeah. I never give up. I never give up. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking brilliant man. Is it harder to act like you've been tased or high on quaaludes? What's harder there? I gotta say that quaalude sequence. I didn't

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know when I was shooting it, but we were there for three or four days. I thought it was like a couple of shots and Marty had 50 shots set up for me crawling around up and down stairs, falling, getting into the car. I was like, damn, I didn't know this, the taste thing was like 20 minutes.

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We were like, one and done. Boom, nailed it. You guys have both worked with, obviously, we already talked about the two Anderson directors, but Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg, is there anything that all these guys have in common

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in terms of all the greats you guys have worked with? Is there one common denominator?

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What would you say that one common? I would say that the ability to listen, to collaborate, you know, I think the ones that I that I've that I consider like great that they they can they will listen. They they're willing to collaborate and. You know, some less than others. But I think it would be like a coach that listens to what you're on the field.

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You're playing it. You can sit on the sidelines and imagine what it would be like, but it's different when you walk in the line. So I think that the directors for me are the ones that will allow you to like, that will listen to what you say

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regarding the actual game, you know? And I would just add that, you know, some directors you have to fit into a context or a perception of a world they create. You know what I mean? There's a lot of plots that are hard to unravel, that are very intricate,

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that doesn't allow a lot of movement. But even those directors, if they're if they allow you as an actor to say, you know, Scorsese says this all the time, I don't care about plot. I don't care about plot. He goes, I want to go with the emotion of what the actor does, because that that's the story. Sometimes it could be less, sometimes it could be more. But those are the when I watch a movie, those are the moments that I remember.

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You know, right. I don't think about, oh, this happened in the plot that happened. I was like that moment with those actors that felt like real life to me. It's funny. It's crazy. Joe Pesci and Goodfellas, that moment, he's trying to capture those moments of real life that make you, I don't know, that make you feel something

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that makes you feel like you're a part of the story in a way.

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I mean, every movie is different. Every story is different. Every co-star is different. So imagine you guys playing with a different team and a different coach almost every other game.

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The actor has to be flexible, you know, because otherwise you'll break. On the flip side, is there a common denominator for the actor to have for like all these different directors? I mean, you guys have been with some of the best directors ever to do it. You know, is there a common denominator for you guys

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that you go in knowing that you, I don't know, you've kind of, you have your style of acting, but is there any like, bend in how you approach things depending on who that who that director is?

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Yeah, I think for me, yes. For me, yes. I Hey, the bottom line is you have to be prepared. Now, you know, you can't expect a director to be there for you if you're not there for them, too. So you have to do your preparation, whatever it is, understand the story, where you are in the story,

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because a lot of movies are shot out of order. So I think that there's a lot of things that go into play, but I think you have to also be prepared. It's like condition training. We gotta know our lines. That's like the basic fundamentals. Go in there and

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know your lines and you know, you're going to adapt to different actors and their style of doing things. You know, some people want to go more by the script. Some people, for example, like Jonah Hill. I mean, this guy's the greatest improvisational actor I've ever worked with. The guy will take the take the scene off

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to left field and you got to somehow reel it back in and understand what the hell. We have an ending to this scene. You know what I mean? This character's got to get from point A and Jonah Hill will just talk about whatever the hell he wants. And you just got to react.

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You got to be on your toes. There's different actors in all these different films that have different approaches. But I'm sure there's a bunch of magic that happens when Jonah does that. And like, I think, I don't know, there's so many similarities when here you guys talk about directors and coaches and teams in football, and that's how us two idiots think about the world. But like, you know, the best coaches find ways of creating structure and putting in plays, but at the same time, allowing the personality and the uniqueness of their individual players putting in plays, but at the same time, allowing the personality and the uniqueness of their individual players manifest through that, right? Like, that's

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when it becomes special is when you have guys who are talented, and like, how can we utilize these guys to their strengths, Travis Kelsey, Pat Mahomes, and all that. So it just rings so true. And it also makes, not to crap on any director specific style, but as a player, I just love when you get input and you get ownership over what is being created, right? Like that's what always makes me feel much better about it. And that sounds like exactly the way this movie went down with you guys.

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And that's gotta be just like such a great feeling to know that this thing's coming out and the world's going to see it and that you were such not just a part of being an actor, but a part of actually making the creative piece in a more holistic way.

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Right?

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Yep.

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Let's find out the team. Part of it. Let me ask you guys a question. Are some of these coaches way more structured and rigid and other ones allow you to improvise more? How does it work?

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Or is it?

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Leo? provides more? How does it work? Or is it? Leo, there are some assholes out there, man. There are some assholes out there. I've had the fortune of only playing for one coach, Jason. He's gone through a handful of them. So he's got a bunch of different understanding of it all. I guess. Go ahead, Jason. Well, just between college and the pros, and I was fortunate. I had one offensive line coach in the NFL and I've been, listen, I'm a good,

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I'm a good teammate. I'm a good player. I've liked in some capacity, every coach I've ever played for. There's things you like about every single one of them and there's things that you wish were different, but I just, I, I I've been a part of the micromanaging coaches that want everything done their way, militaristic. And I just don't think that that leads to much creative, like it just doesn't ever become what it, the maximum potential that it could be. And the coaches that know how to spit, like get the most out of people and how to motivate them,

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let their personality show some Andy Reed. That's one of my favorite things. You always say like, let your personality show. He wants his guys to one of my favorite things. You always say like, let your personality show. He wants his guys to go out there and be themselves because, you know, he's going to get the best version of them instead of trying to make them fit this specific thing. Let's find a way to incorporate this guy into the offense.

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So it's it's just done and it feels better.

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It sounds like acting. There we go. Welcome to Hollywood.

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There we go, baby.

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Just like that.

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There we go.

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It's exactly like that.

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I will say this. Coach Reed came in to Kansas City, and he kind of had to break a culture. So my first taste of Coach Reed was very much, you're doing it this way. You're doing it this way. And once we kind of recreated that culture into where he could trust

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us and we could collaborate and we could make it, that's when we really got the train rolling and started to have a bunch of success as well as getting a guy like Pat Mahomes. Everyone starts on that totem pole of like you're gonna do what you're told to do right now. And then as they get to know you, as they get to know your strengths, then you start getting like, you know, they start giving a little bit more. Like as Stout started, my offensive line coach starts to understand me and we start talking the same language. I feel more empowered to be like, Hey, what if we did this, this, and this? And

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that's a good idea. I like this. Let's start, let's try it out. And then it's just, it starts developing into a relationship. At least you asked.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Sometimes you can't ask. You know, you gotta earn your right to party.

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Yeah. There we go, baby.

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There we go, baby.

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You gotta earn your right, baby.

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There we go.

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You know, baby.

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I was saying that sometimes the bullets are flying and you can't ask.

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You just gotta fucking do it.

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You gotta just go. I do it in the middle of a whole situation, you gotta do it, yeah. Yeah, and some directors are like very structured too, and you gotta find your way within their structure. Yeah. Some of them are rigid like that.

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They have a playbook of exactly how they want the stories to go, and there's not a lot of room to play in that. But I think the funner ones, funner movies to do are the ones where you get to come in with your own ideas and, and, and change stuff around. And, you know, you know, there's, there's something about having an experience, right? So you work with an actor like Leo for me, he's been around for a while. So I know we can, we can move, you know, a look will mean something, you know, if he wants to go again, I'll get out of the way.

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So he goes again, you know? So there is that, and that helps a lot sometimes, but we had the experience of working with a lot of non-actors in this film. And it was kind of funny, because I think that helped Leo and myself.

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Bringing the energy and getting these non-actors to get behind us and believe what we're trying to make them believe. And it was really funny. They jumped right in line. You know, they did came in and it set the tempo for Leon myself that we were both like, you know, part of a team.

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You know, you guys ever gone off script and had a director looking at you like, come here, son.

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Come over here. Oh, yeah. Get over here.

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Don't ever do that with the football ever again.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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I had a director once come up to me and say, don't ever take off an article of clothing while you're talking. Why is that? I guess for the sound. Oh, for the sound is the mic

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Audio guys. Yeah. Well, I don't know but he was like wow, what the hell do you guys have like a

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Welcome to acting like we asked athletes this is kind of like when you first start get started

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Like I was playing with Michael Vick and I grew up watching Michael Vick and it was just like a holy shit moment for me That I'm actually playing football with this guy. When you guys first got going like were there any holy shit I'm on set with X or I'm doing a movie here or I'm a part of something like what were your guys kind of holy shit moments for acting?

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Like holy shit in a positive way or like a holy shit in a negative way?

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It could be either.

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It could be either.

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I had some negative ones too. I remember auditioning when I was very young. I was like a child actor. My stepbrother was an actor and there were these acting agents that would line you up like cattle and they just go and I was a breakdance. I breakdance for like money on the streets.

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So I'd like the step.

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Yes. Yes. No. And they look at like the step. Oh, let's go. It was like,

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yes, yes, no. And they look at me. No. And then a yes, yes, yes. And they all got agents. And I remember saying my dad, this is horrible. This is, I went back and they did it again. Yes, yes, no, no. And I just remember my dad thinks, you know, someday you're going to have your time, son. Just keep at it. Keep at it. And then I got to do. Oh, and then another thing that was funny. I first got my these are holy shit.

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I'm just thinking about my whole.

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No, this is great. This is holy shit to me. This is holy shit for those ages. Those ages are like, what the fuck were we thinking?

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And then they gave me my remember your first photos that you headshots. Yeah. And they said, your name is to I finally got an agent. They said, your name is too ethnic.

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I go, what do you mean? Selinor decapitated, going to too ethnic than ever going to hire. Your new name is Lenny Williams. I said, what is what is Lenny? I was 12. Yes, it was Lenny Williams.

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We took your middle name and we made it your now you're Lenny and my dad saw this photo ripped it up and he said over my dead body Benny Dell Benny Dell Lenny Williams Benny Dell, let's go this podcast would not be the same with Lenny Williams and Benny That WWE intro would not sound the same but But that moment that you were talking about of, oh shit, I remember seeing it. And it brings us back to One Battle was the first time I saw, I met Sean Penn. He was that young actor that I was always going, like, I want to have a,

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I want to do movies like he does, the type of movies he does. And I think it was a, for me with Sean Penn.

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Yeah.

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That'd be cool.

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Working with him on, on this one, man.

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Yes. Yes. I mean, I didn't get to, I've known him. I, I've been in part of his films when he directed, but you know, he was that. Oh shit. It's Sean Penn. My mind was De Niro for like, yeah, I was in that audition with De Niro that I had. That's so fucking cool, man.

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Are there any other career milestones that you guys are thinking about? I mean, we asked this to Brad Pitt, and ironically enough, he said the next thing he would want in his career is to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, which is just hilarious that he would now we're talking to you guys making a Paul Thomas Anderson film. But what is like? Yeah.

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Are there any bucket list career items that you guys want to knock off?

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There's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot.

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I mean, I'm getting one soon. I'm gonna get to work with Scorsese again. And to me, a man is a national treasure. He's the greatest director and I just feel so damn lucky to be able to do it, man. Yes. Hey, maybe you can call him for me and say, hey, bring Benny Dell.

1:20:47

Benny Dell!

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I got this guy, Benny Dell! I got this up and coming, Benny Dell.

1:20:54

Benny Dell from the Bronx.

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Benny Dell from the Bronx.

1:20:57

That does sound like a Scorsese actor.

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Benny Dell.

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Benny Dell.

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Benny Dell. I'm not a bad actor. Well, let's get into this last segment, guys. It gets you out of here. We appreciate you guys. We got one more segment called

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We Gotta Ask. You don't have to answer. You can tell us to **** off, but we gotta ask. You don't have to answer. This is a sports podcast, so we

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gotta ask, what is your greatest

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athletic achievements?

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I mean, you can't compete. I guess we'll sit and compete. I played basketball in high school and I got, you know, I played varsity since a freshman. Okay, four legs. I got four legs. We're the same.

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We're the same.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I don't have your hands, man.

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I don't have your hands.

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I don't have your hands.

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I'll be in the NBA.

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Freshman on varsity, baby. Yeah, I never made any varsity anything. Tried to in basketball, but me and my friends are too short. I say it wasn't any big, big achievement, but we went back to play those varsity guys a few years later.

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They were destroying us. This is like, you know, a half court game. Three pointers in our face over and over again. And I just said to my buddy, Alex, I said, let's go back with the fundamentals. Let's be Bob Cousy and Jerry West.

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We started to whistle the Globetrotters theme.

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I was like, pick and roll, baby. Pick and roll.

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We did that. And we're doing it so obnoxiously.

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We actually found a way to win this game.

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That's amazing.

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Let's go! That's amazing. Let's go. Yeah, let's go. We were a little bit into lighters, man.

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Yeah.

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Pick and roll.

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I love it.

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Lighters, right?

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Lighters. Let's get to the rim, baby. Is there a greatest sporting event you guys have ever seen in person? A favorite sporting event?

1:22:37

Kobe, Shaq, Trailblazers, The Lob. I think that was to win the Western Conference finals. God, that is an unbelievable. And then I got to be there for Michael Jordan's last shot

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Utah Jazz.

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That one.

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That was a two fucking bangers.

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We had Shaq on and he said that that was his favorite dunk of all time.

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I mean, that is the whole stadium just shot up into the air. I remember that.

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That was an incredible moment, man.

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Do you show anything from you?

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You know, I'm thinking, yeah, well, I did go to, I think it was 1980, and it was the Sixers versus the Lakers, and it was Magic Johnson was the finals. I think it was

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game four. It's the famous game that Dr. J does that shot.

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No way.

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The scoop.

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The scoop.

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You saw that live?

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I was live.

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What?

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Sitting up there, yes.

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That's another, oh man, you guys have seen

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some fucking epic games.

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It comes from the right eye and scoops it under.

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Yeah, wow.

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The ream is right there just watching.

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Oh, that is so good. It feels like slow motion every time he does it too, man, he just floats in the air. I think it was May 11th, 1980.

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Damn, you got the dates too. Yeah, I got the day,

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well, because I got the picture of the shot.

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Yeah.

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That's pretty cool, man.

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That's epic, man.

1:23:53

God damn, those are some bangers. What's on your guys' Mount Rushmore of movies? It could be ones you've been in, it could be ones Travis put himself on his own list of Mount Rushmore football players. What do you mean?

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Oh, here comes the brothers.

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He's a very modest man. He's just... It's just... I've always wanted to be on Mount Rushmore, okay?

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Mount Rushmore movies. I got to say East of Eden with James Dean. I saw that when I was 14.

1:24:19

I got to say Taxi Driver with De Niro.

1:24:23

Yeah, baby.

1:24:24

Scorsese. 2001 Space Odyssey. What, I don't know, I feel like we're doing our greatest four of all time. I'll just go with the movie that I saw when I was a kid that really impressed me was Papillon.

1:24:37

Papillon was amazing.

1:24:38

Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman. You've seen that?

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I'm gonna have to put that on the list, man.

1:24:43

Check it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. Hop you're on the list.

1:24:46

Hop you on. And then I think you mentioned on the waterfront.

1:24:51

On the waterfront. Incredible.

1:24:54

Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando.

1:24:56

Marlon Brando.

1:24:57

That's all we had in here. There we are. Let's go, baby. We kind of heard Leo mentioned that he saw a movie and wanted to become an actor. For both of you guys, was there ever a specific moment or a specific movie that you guys watched where you knew that that was like, man, I want to do that one day?

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I wanted to be an actor very, very young, I remember. I remember being four, five years old and I'm like, found out you could get an agent and like do it professionally and I just started begging my parent, take me to auditions, take me auditions. It was very strange. I used to imitate my parents' crazy friends that would come over to the house and do imitations of them all day

1:25:36

and play characters and I was like, you could do this for a job? I mean, I don't need to go be an accountant or a travel agent. I can actually do this for a job. And I was kind of like the pusher. I was I was the stage child. You know, they have like stage parents that are like, you have to go to this. Go to this. I was like, Mom, get me to audition right now.

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You knew I was like, I got to get out of this neighborhood. I got to go. I love it. I guess for me, I came into acting a little bit later. I came to acting when I was a freshman in college. And I think I remember seeing Raging Bull. And I grew up in San Juan, Puerto Rico. And so, it just reminded me of people I knew,

1:26:21

the Italians, the Latin thing. And I just, that movie really like, it's just like De Niro and Pecci and Kathy Moriarty. I mean, everybody in it, it was so incredible, that movie. Yeah. Mine was East of Eden.

1:26:36

I think I saw that very young.

1:26:37

Rocky was also kind of like, I remember seeing Rocky and doing the egg thing.

1:26:43

Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. And I was, you know, or nine, you know, just doing the egg thing and puking. Not as good as not as good.

1:26:52

Not as good.

1:26:54

Not as good. Yeah.

1:26:55

Leo, once and for all, we got to know who's your team, who we root for. We got all these pictures. We got all the multiple sport.

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Like, is there is there a specific one we're going for? You know, it's funny. Absolutely not. No, I got no, I got no team. No loyalty. No loyalty to anything. I'm a Lakers fan. That's absolutely what I could say. But the hats always just were like, Oh, that's a cool symbol. That's a dope hat. And I just started doing that my whole life. I don't know. Different college teams, different football teams, different

1:27:25

basketball.

1:27:26

Not a lot of different basketball teams.

1:27:28

Do you have some favorite ones? Or just because I'm the same way like Oakland Athletics,

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the hat.

1:27:32

I just love the way it looks. It's just so awesome.

1:27:35

Classic.

1:27:36

Seattle Supersonics like that. Like Jersey and color combo. I used to love that one. Like, I don't know what's your favorite you're going with you think? I don't know. I liked the KC one. I like the Raiders hat.

1:27:47

I like the Raiders hat back in the day, but now I just wear LA.

1:27:50

There you go.

1:27:51

Yeah.

1:27:52

Can't go wrong. But you had, what do you have? You had a Bulls hat on. I had a Bulls hat on the other day.

1:27:57

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I'm all about the old vintage flat brims with the from the 90s. Any any 90s hockey, basketball or baseball logo.

1:28:10

I'm all in on it, man.

1:28:11

Kansas City is a good one. Yeah. Kansas City. Yeah, that's a good one. They're not changing that thing any any time soon.

1:28:17

No, they know I have a vintage one from the 80s of Kansas City. Yeah. Football. Yeah. Oh, cool.

1:28:25

Come on out the arrowhead.

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Yeah. Can you see how cool I look? I'd love to.

1:28:29

I'd love to. Yes. Get this thing rocking for you, brother.

1:28:32

Let's go. What's the best note a director has ever given you guys?

1:28:34

I guess I had a director, I think it was Oliver Stone once. And he comes up to me and he goes, penetrate. Penetrate? Yeah, you're staying on the three-point line. Penetrate. Bring it in. Get in there. Yeah.

1:28:52

And I thought that was cool.

1:28:54

You got to get into the paint, baby.

1:28:55

Yeah, get into the paint.

1:28:56

Draw a file.

1:28:57

Get dirty, baby.

1:28:58

Yeah, I think when we're talking about, I guess I told a whole bunch of negative, oh, wow moments, right? No, no. But my big, oh, wow moment was being able to do a film with De Niro called This Boy's Life. I was 16 years old. That was like my, I can't believe I'm on set from coming from television, doing this great show called Growing Pains, but then damn, the way I remember walking, the whole set went quiet. I'm like, what's everyone so nervous about?

1:29:27

I'm like, Jesus Christ, let's joke around here. I was like, you know, and then to watch this guy's focus. And I remember I had like a scene with him where I needed to like step up. And I remember the director saying, watch him. It goes, pain is temporary, film is forever. Pain is temporary, Film is forever. Pain is temporary films forever. I was like, got it.

1:29:46

That was like the note that I was that hell.

1:29:48

Yeah, hit me the hardest. Leo. I got to ask one of my favorite movies of all time. You've been asked this a thousand times, but I got to ask one of my favorite movies of all time. A Shutter Island.

1:29:57

Oh cool.

1:29:58

Do you absolutely do?

1:30:00

Does he know? Does he know what's happening at the end? You know, I think score says he wanted that to be to be open, open ended. I got my answer. Yeah, my answer. My answer is my answer is he couldn't couldn't deal with the pain of what had happened to him. And he decides to go in and sort of end the pain. You know,

1:30:23

he couldn't deal with it. He has that look back at the end of it where it's like, yeah, he knows what's happening.

1:30:28

That was my answer, but you know,

1:30:30

these directors don't like to keep it obscure.

1:30:35

Speaking of open courts, we got one last question for you guys. We get asked all the time, Jason was a former linebacker, turns offensive center. I was a ex quarterback turned tight end. Um, we get asked all the time what it would have been like if we would have switched positions or if we didn't

1:30:50

switch positions. So we wanted to ask you guys, uh, if you could act in one role, um, that the other person had started, uh, who would you want to be? You think, damn, that's a good question.

1:31:03

Yeah. I mean, Sicaria was, that would have been a cool thing to do. Okay. Oh. Traffic was amazing but Sakaria that that that guy was Vegas. I like to watch that. Kill you kill him in front of

1:31:18

his family.

1:31:21

That **** bad **** I would say I would say Wolf of Wall Street.

1:31:26

Oh, yeah.

1:31:27

There we go.

1:31:28

Good answer, man.

1:31:29

Good answer. Yeah.

1:31:31

Yeah.

1:31:32

All right.

1:31:33

The break dance finally came back.

1:31:34

Oh my gosh.

1:31:35

That's amazing.

1:31:36

Dudes, thank you so much for this.

1:31:37

This was a fucking blast, man. Thank you for your time.

1:31:39

Thank you.

1:31:40

Thank you guys for blessing us with this movie. This movie is so badass. Thank you so much for this. This was a fucking blast, man. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you guys for blessing us with this movie. This movie is so badass. Cannot wait to see how the world reacts to this thing.

1:31:50

People gotta go see it in the theaters, too. You gotta tell them to go see it in the theaters, man.

1:31:53

Oh yeah.

1:31:54

In theaters. Don't wait for this thing to come out and watch it from your living room. September 26. Check it right now. One battle after another. Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio del Toro. Thank you so much, guys. You guys are the best. That was amazing.

1:32:08

Thank you.

1:32:10

Thank you to Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio del Toro. One battle after another is now in theaters this Friday, September 26th. Go to the theaters and see it. I'm telling you, you are not going to be disappointed. Oh, Lenny Williams and Benny Dell, baby. Benny Dell and Lenny Williams. We watched it not in theaters just to kind of get a little

1:32:31

preview for it. So, but you go watch it in theaters. Be a fucker. Come on. Support the movies. Support your local theater. Hell yeah, man. It's the best, dude. Get some popcorn and milk duds. Get some cavities. Where are you going to get cavities if you don't go to the movie theater? What are we doing? That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to our guests, Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio Del Toro. Yes sir. AKA Lenny Williams and Benny Dell. They're so good.

1:32:57

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1:33:31

Thank you guys for giving us your time and having some fun with us. Thanks to the New Heights production team for always making us look better than what we are and thank you to the 92%ers for keep tuning in. We'll see you guys next week after week four of the NFL, baby.

1:33:45

Yeah, baby.

1:33:46

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:34:03

Yeah. what it is, those guys were fucking amazing. They're cool, man. I fucking love cool people. They thought you were cool.

1:34:06

They said we were cool.

1:34:06

They said it, they said it. I think they're just pros.

1:34:09

I think they're just pros.

1:34:10

They do that every single time.

1:34:11

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:34:12

Take the compliment, take the compliment.

1:34:13

They give good reviews. I was talking to some incredible actors that I have no business talking to. Dude, with no fucking difference. I just feel like every time I'm interviewing somebody like Leo or Brad or... What makes a good actor? Yeah, I just feel like Chris Farley in those SNL scenes where I'm like... So remember... And I want to bring up all of these career achievements while we're talking to them.

1:34:44

We're also trying to be... I mean, the movie that's coming out Friday is going to be spectacular. But I also want to ask about like all these other movies and things and it's like, how do I do this without sounding just like the biggest fanboy of all time?

1:34:56

And it's difficult. And it's difficult.

1:34:57

I just got a fanboy it up, man.

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