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99food She wants to know, she wants Frente Com Blogueirinha. Today I have with me a YouTuber, comedian, businessman, musician and super gifted, which explains a lot. Whindersson Nunes!

Hi!

How are you, dear? How my dear? Great, thank God. Great, thank God. Let's start with this story about Superdotado, about Fantastico. You know that in Fantastico they only go with interviews, right?

It was that girl with 17 personalities.

I'm glad I went for a good thing, because there they only kill people. If there's something like that, very, very strange,, if there's something really weird about it, or if there's something that has a good and a bad side. In my case, it's a good and a bad side.

And you chose Fantastico to explain, right?

They chose me.

Oh, they chose you?

No, I don't even go after these things.

You had already given the news to those who follow you, how was it?

I had talked about it on Twitter, I think I talked about it on Twitter. The diagnosis came from your hospitalization. Was it on your own? Yes, on my own. But I was having a lot of problems, addiction, everything. Everything that involves hospitalization, I was. And then I really understood when they said, a friend of mine,

I already understood a few years ago, it was cool. It's been a long time, back then it was very crazy. Today it must be really cool. I got in a few years ago and it was great. It's been a long time, back then it was very messy. Today it must be really cool. I think if it was me, I would go. So I accepted and went.

And then you wanted to go, you just talked to your family and went?

Just like that?

I went. Oh, ok.

And then, while you were in the hospital, what did you do?

There's...

Is it a school? It's like this, the crazy people, the people who are hospitalized, when they have depression, with addiction, with these things, people lose their routine. People no longer have the habit of sleeping at the right time, having lunch at the right time, going to a baptism, going to a socialization, so they lose their routine. So there they try to give us a routine, wake up at the right time, take medicine, go to the activities, which are a lot of activities,

a lot of things to do. What are they? Occupational therapy, group therapy, where you sit down and each one says their misfortune. When you arrive, you're like, no, I'm fine.

You're so sad. No, guys, I'm just sad. So, it's like that. And you're not have to do anything, you can do whatever you want. But you like it, because you interact with people. It starts to create a routine. You start really...

When it's 10 and a half at night, you get sleepy. You leave there with this routine again. I've already said that I've won everything. We were talking before, we like to stay up late, we like to live at night.

But it helped me a lot, for sure. Yes, and when you left, how long did you stay there?

A month.

A month?

A month.

And you felt ready to...

I felt ready, I understood the path of the stones, I called myself. I think that's it, because no one will take care of you forever.

Yes.

And it doesn't mean that you won't have paranoia, a mental madness any day of your life.

And there, how did they give you this super-endowed diagnosis?

It's because they observe a lot of people. You're being observed all the time. It's that thing. I'm here talking to you. We're crazy. We're talking here, the two of us here, at 3pm, and all the people in the production are nurses, psychologists, psychiatrists, so everyone was...

I felt very watched, I wouldn't like it.

I had a way of putting the glass on the table, I was kind of... Yeah... Everyone is watching. I think they saw my way of interacting with people, the things I did, how cool I was with people, understanding how people worked, I talked to them too, and said, man, this guy has something.

Let's put him to do the test?

So I did the test.

How was the test?

It looked like a psychotechnician from CNH, you know, that completes? Complete the figure, and then I would do it. And then the woman would have a stopwatch, it was like a test, I was from the FBI.

She would be like this all the time, and I would finish, I would pass it to her, she would stop the test, then she would give me another one, and she would say me words like house, shower, bathroom, gardener, etc.

A lot of words to say. Can you repeat? I would repeat some and I didn't know anymore. She would give me other papers, I would do it, I would change the paper. I remember the words, I would say...

What did you remember?

More or less. I remembered more this time. She would draw that figure I showed you at the beginning. I would draw it and stuff.

Wow, really crazy stuff.

I thought I was going to enter the X-Fence.

Crazy stuff, you being like this at the table.

And then I was intrigued by the stopwatch. I saw that she was doing it like this. Then I... What is this? What note is this? That she gave me now. And then I was intrigued to want to do it faster, you know? Wow, that's a movie thing.

And then the test came out.

And she said you were super gifted, and what is it? Is it intelligent?

Super gifted is a person who has high skills in some things. In my case, I don't have skills with numbers. I'm super gifted, but't have to do the math. I don't know, but I'm very good with creativity, with thinking speed, with memory, with some things, I'm above average. With some things, I don't mean...

But I still don't understand.

It's not implicit, right?

I wanted it to be more... Because when you say super gifted, we think...

A superpower, right?

A superpower, exactly.

But it's not, to tell the truth.

Especially when we go to the Fantastic Four, we think we're going to say, wow, Anderson gets lightning out of his hands.

He's going to put an iPhone in front of me. But it's not like that.

It's not like that.

In fact, there are a lot of bad things as well. In my case, there's compulsion and impulsivity. I feel like I'm thinking yes or no all the time. Sometimes I can choose yes, sometimes I can choose no.

You're talking and it makes me anxious.

Yeah, so...

Since the thoughts don't stop.

That's why I smoke. And for me it works, because there's... Drugs, what is a drug? A drug is when it doesn't work for you. For example, a controlled medicine of yours doesn't work for me. I don't have the same problem as you, because you're here.

But mine, which is like this... This works for me, it works.

So you don't take medicine?

I do, because my problems are bigger than just one chosen to solve.

Wow, now that you're already medicated, you're out of there. How does your head look like in your day to day?

Today I understand that things come from somewhere, because before I thought I was crazy, that there was no way for me, that's what I thought. Now that I know that the problem comes from somewhere, for example, the compulsiveness that I have. Compulsiveness is the following, I start drinking and I can't stop. Then I know it comes from somewhere, it's my super-endowment, you know? The compulsiveness that I have. So you keep drinking, but you stop.

Exactly. Knowing that I have, I try not to start drinking thinking that I'm going to finish. I try to take a dose on someone's birthday.

Wow, how do you do it?

It's complicated.

How do you do it?

It's complicated. The girl came to me and said, Look, there's a drink there. What do you want? Then she said, what do you want? In my head, whiskey. And then she said, there's water, there's energy drink, there's soda. And then I said, water.

And then she said, is there whiskey? No. And then I have to hold it.

Do you want?

No.

Do you want butter?

No, no, no.

I'm kidding.

I have a nice water, I like to make ice cream.

And then you can set a limit at a party that goes until 8 am, because famous parties are until 8 am.

Right.

And then you set a limit to stay at the party?

No, just to balance it out, so I can't even drink. I The inhibition factor. You know that thing, like, I don't know, I don't want to talk about it. He takes it off. Then you say it. Then you're more like, ah, you know what? You know?

Uh-huh.

So, like, he also takes it off. Today I'm not going to smoke. You take one, huh? Ah, you know what? You know? He has a lot of this. Wow, alcohol brings this. I'm going to move on to something else, because he takes away this little break we have. Not a little break we have, no. Today I'm not going, because tomorrow I'm going to record with Blogueirinho.

He takes it away. I'm drinking, I'm drinking, and I'm with three doses of whiskey. You know, I've already filmed a lot of drunk stuff. It worked out, it was really cool that day I went. You already have my career. I have my very I started avoiding him. I hit the other guys, but I decided to stay safe.

I understand. So, Whindersson, at the beginning of your career you started doing parodies, recording in your room. Can you give a summary of how this all started?

I was a computer technician, and during the break I watched some videos on YouTube and I saw some people talking to the camera.

And who did you see?

Vagazoid, Galofrito, remember him?

I remember him, that's why I started doing parodies. What did you see? Vagazoid, I saw Galo Frito, do you remember Galo Frito? The one that did the parody.

So that's why I got into the parody business, I still have Galo Frito there. And then I thought, wow, these people are getting something through this, I think I'll try too. Then I started.

And was it too fast for you to grow up and become one of the biggest?

It was five years, man. Five years being nobody? I didn't know anyone or anything. And when it went viral, it was something that didn't give me anything good. It was a very crappy thing. It went viral, I don't know, with my underwear on my head singing...

Yes.

It wasn't something that gave me... Wow, look at this cool guy.

And you were already super gifted.

And I was already super gifted, but my parents didn't notice, so they could give me a direction.

Wow, I can imagine, they wouldn't even know what it was.

It was my yes and no in my head, saying, put a card in your head, yes, then I put the card in my head.

If you knew you were super gifted, would you do something different?

I think I would go to the area of physics, medicine, something that has to do with study.

Yeah, but you're not even good with numbers. You said that.

But it's for humans.

And then you had this great rise, right? You were the second biggest on YouTube. Around.

You lost to Felipe Neto. I'm losing. I keep losing for more. Now I'm in the video more and more. Do you still make videos? I do, but much less. I learned something about superdotation. My hyperfocus. I lose interest in other things and focus on other things.

When I'm doing a show, I don't even remember that I have Twitter, Instagram, I just remember to do a show, create text.

Yes.

At that time, because it was a lot, you and Felipe, who was the biggest, were you friends?

Friend, friend, no, but acquaintance, yes, I've seen him a few times, I've met him, I've talked to him, I've recorded with him.

Have you fought with him?

I fought with him.

Why did you fight with him? I don't even remember, there's so many silly things here in the world. There's something like, look, that day because he said... No, it's just bullshit.

But at that time it was very like that, right? To fight over silly things. I don't think there were many people either, right?

Or subject, or something to talk about.

And Felipe loves a little fight, okay?

He likes it. He likes it. You know that when people stop answering the fights but the fight never happened. So you stopped talking to each other, you stopped fighting, and you never had any contact? Never. I see his stuff on Twitter, people I follow on Twitter.

Because he keeps fighting.

He's very famous, he shows up there, and I see something.

Do you consider yourself very famous?

Yes.

Famous, what does famous mean to you?

I'm famous. I consider myself famous. For going out and people stopping me,

for not being able to get it on the market. I think famous who my father and mother know. But it's famous from their time. Ask them if they know you.

Do they know me? Did you ask them? Did you tell them I came here? And they don't know me? Did you ask them? Did you tell them I came here? And they don't know me?

They asked which channel I'm on. But I'm cool. I explain everything. Look, it's a character.

No, you have to say it.

It's a blogger. People like it. I'm not Blogging in a Mackey a motor legal as personal gospel is a kid who can pull it cool Key fallacy and fall outside the yes in a sudden

Yeah, yeah, I'm a customer in a fantastic. I'm going to see you fantastic. I'm going to send fantastic. Oh no, man Yes, oh no, but it's a fantastic. Oh, but it's much more photo. No stream. I alias. I've eaten all go go No, no, I'm saying Have they ever seen you somewhere? No. No? I think it's generational.

This is generational.

I like to explain and put it on to watch. Because my parents have to understand the new humor. Because new things are coming to them on WhatsApp. They will believe in everything.

Do you think your humor is already more outdated?

I think... For example, I took a day like this to watch my videos from 2018 to 2022 I didn't do it like this I'm like that too I didn't spend my tooth polish with myself And I thought like this, people are really nice to me

Because I don't think it's funny

Wow, I'm like that too, I can't find the slightest fun And when I say I don't't think, people complain to me.

Yeah, and they think we're being lazy, making us add less than we add. But it's not like that. It's because... People, time goes by and we think...

But do you think your texts have changed from then on? What have you changed in your type of humor?

I think things now have more concept.

What concept?

Like, I like this show of mine, which is definitely not a cult. This new show. It's like, it looks like a cult, but it's not a cult. The point is to look like a religious cult, but it's not a religious cult. And I talk a lot about mental health. There's something important behind it, it's not just jokes.

There's something important to deliver.

You weigh on the show, right?

A little bit. But I also go up.

You weigh on the show. I weigh on it, but I also go up.

That's when people say, man, this guy knows what he's doing.

I remember that, I didn't follow you much, but a lot of your news was out. You did shows in stadiums.

Nobody says that. Just because I'm not a pop diva. If I were a pop diva, I would say, look, another debut in his career.

But since you're not a pop diva, no pop diva is doing a show in a stadium because there's no demand. And then what happens? Nobody is talking. On the contrary, the pop divas who are trying to

do shows in the stadium are not selling. They are putting black canvas. I'm seeing it on Twitter, I follow. I'm seeing, I see everything. Put it there and the people say like that. And I feel like, you know what? To defend the divas. To say like this, do you think it's only in crowded shows that the artist lives? That's not how it works. We gather several small places and then we put the big one. But you keep filming, the black canvas.

You know that when I had a manager, before now, that he always wanted to do a comedy show of mine too. And he wanted me to go to small towns first, to see the audience, and then to get to São Paulo. Is that how it is? When you do the strategy? I don't know about you now, but you can go anywhere.

I started doing first North and Northeast. Because they were the people who hugged me the most. When I went to Manaus for the first time, I did 5 sessions there. So, for me, it was like the butt.

The butt.

And then, it was already a good media, so people from São Paulo could say, look, there are a lot of shows there, so it must be cool. When I came down, I was already doing big shows. Yes. And the ticket office was also huge, right? 50-50. I always did 50-50.

50-50 yours?

50-50 mine.

And the rest is 50-50? To pay for theater?

Everything. Screen, promotion, media.

And even when you were on stage? On stage, sorry, in the stadium?

Yes, same thing, always.

Do you miss doing shows in the stadium? Do you think you don't go back to the stadium nowadays?

No, I think I'll do the following. There's a lot of technical problems in the stadium. It's difficult. For theater, it's complicated. For singing, it's better. Like, Roberto Carlos does it. How big it is... And the audience...

My love, complete! Because they already know the song, you know? In my case, if I make a sentence and the person doesn't hear half of it, they don't understand the joke. Technical problem, sound problem, it's a big deal.

It gets stressful.

It's stressful, because the people ask for money back, and there's a lot of money being returned.

But do you think that at least you were very media-oriented? Were you more media-oriented at that time? It was a show full of people in a stadium. And at that time, I don't remember anyone doing that. No, I don't think...

I think it's a time. remember anyone doing it like that. No, I don't think... I think it's the time. Everyone has a time like that.

But not in the stadium, right?

Yeah, but that's good.

Do you think you suffered with this exhibition?

No. I think I just learned. We become who we are. Every controversy you have to do a broadcast...

Yes, we have to do it. Today we have to do it with the letter open.

Have you done it?

No. And then you learn. Like, there you learn something. It's bad, of course it's bad. But you get involved in some things. So today I'm very involved because so much happened.

I'm like this, so involved that I am, but I am.

I know.

You also do shows singing, right? Yes. Singing trap.

It's not as easy.

Why trap?

Trap because when the genre is starting, it's better for you to start than to compete with a country singer. I'm going to compete with Gustavo Lima, with Lone Satan. But what do you like? I'm going to do pop. I'm going to compete with Anitta, with Luisa, with Ludmilla, with a lot of people.

It's like that. with Anitta, Luisa, Ludmilla, a lot of people. Yeah, that's how it is. And then the market will go up.

You think these girls were born to compete with each other.

So, but then let them compete, I will compete in trap.

You will compete with João, with... Oh, I have to see the big ones now. Only with João. It was going to be you and João.

Me and João. João doing Aliens Park and me in Jack.

Why did you decide to sing trap? Is it where you do shows?

Trap is a genre.

This part of your artistic career, right?

Trap is a genre. Because I'm an artist and I like to express myself. And there are several ways to express yourself that exist in art. For example, the fight is one, boxing is known as noble art, that is, it is art, you know? The music is art. In my conception it is art, that's why I do it, you know? The music is a way I can express myself too. Everyone has a kind of sexual side, and instead of repressing, in trap I write things, I get you like this, I do this, I do that, I write things on the track.

I do this, I do that, I don't do shit. But I put it out there, it's like a form of expression. That's why I don't care about releasing the song, it's a total flop, I don't care much because it's not my intention to be a singer,

it's more an intention to express myself. And you also end up pleasing a part of the audience.

Yes, or the few people who like that kind of thing, it's always there.

And you always warn them, look, or it's this or it's nothing.

If you want, that's it. That's what I have to offer.

That's what you have now, otherwise you won't have anything. Do you take these breaks in your career?

I do, I like it because... Nobody is forced to do anything. Nobody is forced to do anything. And I don't like, for example, one of the good things about being an artist is that you don't have to follow the industry, the way the industry wants to take things, the way they want to do it. There are artists who are forced to do TikTok, they have to do it because I have to do it. But you've been to the industry, you've already dictated the rules, you know what it is.

Yes, but then it gets tiring.

But did you like it when you also dictated these rules?

I liked it, but it's more of an ego thing, you know? To massage what you are, what you have. And that's not what I came for.

When did you feel tired?

Tired? I'm sad Sad You ask you couldn't come back so far no feel Thank you, baby Sing No, my story I don't make it back to the photo I did to do what we're going to shake a sink. I'm a gentleman. You're gonna come to me

My same alarm would you was it? Don't ask me what's it don't have a But they always talked a lot about you. So you tried to pass.

I don't care much about the matter of seeing, for example. My article came out in Fantástico. I go there in the comments because I know there will be people saying, Wow, how cool, I know it's cool like that. And other people saying, This is not overrated by anyone, blah, blah, blah, I don't know what.

You know? I know there will be both sides, so what's the point? So I don't see it much. Now, but I said it before, at that moment you dictated the rules, that you were the industry, you know? Like, how you dealt with it, right? Because you stopped liking it because you got tired.

Yes. That's why I do this ziato you said. I don't need to leave, because I leave anyway. I don't even know what's going on.

But you opened a music production company. Do you still produce?

I have a studio called Girasol, here in São Paulo. We give space to new artists. Almost no one who is very well known goes there. But we talk more about new songs.

It's because of the song you have with Priscila, right?

That's right. It's the song that was the most successful. Of all the songs I've done. The most successful was Divacito.

Are you still friends?

Yes. People stop being friends with Priscila.

How often do you talk to her?

Sometimes. Usually it her a music video, she sends me a music video.

Have you talked to each other this year? Yes. Because Priscila is stopping talking to everyone. I'm worried.

I saw.

Worried about her. She's stopping talking to everyone. She's moving away from Sacha, Sacha, from the Marquezine program, she's not going to Célula, I called her last week, she doesn't want to go to Célula, she fought with the Meneghel family, you know? Then there's Maísa, João Guilherme,

she moved away from everyone and I want to understand why.

I don't get it, it's ok.

Do you believe she fought with Maju Tringade?

Also? Why?

I don't know. I want to know.

I saw you commented...

I didn't comment anything.

You did, with Sasha.

I didn't say anything. Yeah, he came here recently.

Let's meet to talk about the fanfic. Oh, no. It was him and Maju.

It was him and Maju, see? So there's this fight. They're already... I don't see. Oh, yes, I don't think I'm gonna come in a It is a stone see reunion. I am coming down to the school. I'm gonna turn down the skin and loser, you know Sasha As Sasha me precious blues Yeah, I

Okay, I'm gonna see my sweet. Yeah. I mean cheer. I think I Think it's your scuba diving. I keep my name. I don't see how they'll do it. They'll Obrigada! I Thank you. It shines a lot. I learned that giving gifts when you have a special moment is nice. And to change the subject, I felt...

Yeah, me too.

Do you know anything about the production of Paraná?

No, it's because I wasn't paying attention.

Here, focus here. Look how beautiful. It shines a lot. In the next episode I'll use it, for sure. Thank you. I loved the viola. It's here.

Hey, Priscila, huh? How was it recording with Priscila?

A very beautiful song, right? It was good.

She was still moving away from the Gospel, right?

Yeah, she was still... I think she was still a bit of a Gospel, a bit have a me a Vangelio me. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I

Know Yeah, I can answer okay. Yeah, I'm on the moon Seeing what's it a visa?

Decision for the agree. Yeah, I'll feed a zone degree a zone. It's a little kid. I'd deso 10 years. 10 years. How old were you when you left? 18. You want to know. The majority, but it was really cool, the time I was a believer. It was really cool. But I saw it was a society like all the others. Like, where's the guy who played in the band?

No, he can't anymore because he ate the pastor's daughter. Here there's also that. I thought it was the place, but no, I saw it was, and that's why. I prefer to stay here.

Yes, the same things happen. In your label, you have Victor Clay, your Jorge Negra Lee. How is it to launch a label with big names? So, they participated, they went there,, met, they are not my artists. Who are your artists then?

My artists are Filgueiras, Elphiu, Merak, so they are people who are starting.

So let it be, I thought it was Negralhinha black girl, I wanted to see this contact, I wanted to meet her.

No, no.

I wanted to meet her.

No.

The most famous is you, in your label. But why did you decide to open a label?

Because I think music is an interesting arm. As you said, at that time I was an industrialist, now, in, and now I'm my own company. And the company is worth more the more branches it has. The more branches it has.

You're from NonStop, right?

Yes.

You still are?

Yes.

Why didn't you leave?

Because I'm the owner.

You're lying, you bought it.

No, I didn't. I've always been the owner. You scared me. No, I didn't buy it. I've been selling it since forever. Oh, you scared us! I've been selling it since forever.

Oh, you scared us! He's at this level of buying at a mall. But you're a partner, right? Yes. Wow, 50% too? 50% 50% or not?

No, no. There are more partners. There are Billions. I'm the only one. Little boy. I'm not Billion yet. I'm the one who, when he's going to talk at a meeting, he goes like this, shut up, and I...

But you must ask for your opinion for everything.

Yes, for sure.

For sure. Yes, for sure. Are you their biggest case?

I think so.

You don't like to talk, right? It seems like you're the last one to go down. I've just saying. I'm just saying. I agree, but can't you say it?

I say everything. There's Simone Mendes. And then? Simone, Simone.

You're Whindersson. You're one of the best of the season.

One of the best. I don't need to put myself as the best. I don't like to massage my ego. I've been there. I've liked it a lot. But today I don't care so much. You're talking, I'm talking, okay.

Humility, maybe. But so much humility that it gets annoying. There are things that are, you know? I'm not even going to put you on top of that.

It seems like the difficulty of saying the word humility, it seems like she doesn't even speak in the day to day.

It's a much humility.

Humility. But it's enough to irritate, you know? There are people who are great. Simone, is she also a partner?

No.

So, you're bigger than her?

I'm bigger than the company.

Don't hit my table.

Because this is a bigger thing. No, no. This is a thing of ill-mannered people. You're saying that I should be bigger? The way you want to be bigger is like this.

The person who wants to be bigger, she hits the table. Stop! She's going to break. Do you know who did it? It was the production of... of Caldeirão do Hulk. It was very chic.

It's a picture bit like a chiquérrimo. Obviously, it's also a carérrimo. And it only has this one. It's super fragile. If you do this with both hands, it starts shaking. Be careful. But that's it. You're doing your show too, right?

Efeito Borboleta?

Efeito Borboleta was last year's. Is it a show every year? Every year it's on YouTube. Every year is a show? Every year is a show. I like to let go every year.

You get sick of it, right?

I get sick of saying the same thing every day.

Do you get sick of this too? Of doing interviews?

You get here, sit down, another person comes.

Four years doing this? So?

As much as I took a six-month break? That's why bands split up. I used to think, why split up bands? I've been seeing the same people every day for 20 years. And I sing, it's love! You have to put up with it, son.

What do you suggest I do, since I'm starting to get sick of it?

Always do new things. So no one is always expecting the same thing. Soon, she'll do something. Soon, something will come up.

What if they don't like it? I'm going to send it. Ah, yeah, yeah. I'll find a guy. I'll find a guy. I'll find a guy. I'll find a guy.

I'll find a guy. I'll find a guy.

I'll find a guy. If I called you to my podcast Mildzinho, you wouldn't go.

If there weren't any great tables.

No, there wouldn't be any table. At most, there would be water. You wouldn't even be able to choose the drink. That little microphone.

Insider, appearing here.

Wow!

And you stop all the time to say that the Insider is top, that it doesn't stain, doesn't knead, it does knead!

The table full of things, drinks, food...

And everything turned to there, saying that you have to bring it to the studio, that it's expensive, my son.

It's like that. Although I saw that you go to these too, right? I go, I like it.

You don't make a distinction, no. Yeah, they don't keep saying like that, I'm sorry Clock and I'll explain They stay bought a single kiss you don't

Dish it's been a good time. What's a ghost ID? this a famous

Boston Jack Jack I like it. I've liked and disliked it many times. Now I'm in the phase that I like.

In the phase that you like because you already... What level of fame are you at?

At the level of people thinking I can change their lives. I think that would be very famous.

But have you ever been at this level?

Yes. But then it's that thing, the agony of...

Because of depression.

Exactly.

It's logical.

Exactly, and today I've passed this phase, it's still the same, but I deal with it in a different way.

How do you deal with it?

I deal with it with less pressure, with less weight on me, as if the world were my responsibility. With less weight. I help as I can, as I can, was my responsibility. With less weight. I help as I can, as I can, if I can.

Fame brought you a lot of good things, a lot of bad things too, right? So I think that... And a lot of fame time will have its moments, right? That you like, that you don't like. Now you're in a moment that you like. Now you're in a moment that you like.

Now I'm in a moment that I like.

Okay, so... Have you ever had a samba school that wanted you to be a video theme?

Yes.

You didn't want to.

No.

Why? Civil Santos wanted you.

Civil Santos, yeah, Civil Santos.

Xuxa wanted you. Xuxa, Carlinhos Maia wanted me. is Or was it the other way around? He was mine. He was yours, right? Then you stopped talking to each other like that. The logo turned to advertising.

No, he was more complicated. A more complicated person in life. You had a Johnny, right? Yeah, we did. I called him, GK, Tirolipa.

How is it to work with GK and Carlinhos?

It was complicated at the time. It's been a long time, but we've been together for 4 years.

4 years, it's 4 years. Why is it complicated?

Because we have to deal with the different people's harmonies. I had called because I wanted to do a family show in the Northeast. I wanted it to be like a crazy guy in a piece. From a family in the Northeast. Then it was in the hands of a producer, and the producer stereotyped everyone,

and said, in the Northeast, I have a tongue, I have a tongue, I have a tongue.

And you did it.

And we did it.

You were criticizing, but you were doing it.

I was signing a contract,

a fine on top, so I had to do the business. And then, Carlinho at that time was very dazzled by life and everything.

Was he more famous than you or were you more famous than him?

No, he was just dazzled. Very dazzled, very dazzled. But that was at that time. Today I met him, I went to his house, we talked. I meet him every now and then to tell the truth. Just to chat, we don't do anything.

We smoke a cigarette, drink a whiskey, chat.

So you meet?

Yes, yes. He lives near Kaka, my partner. He lives close by. I go to Kaka, he goes to Kaka, and I go to his house.

What was the bad and annoying thing about Karate?

Back then, he lived a lot in the stories. Nowadays, he does the ranch, sometimes he goes on his trips, he plays with his friends. At that time, he was a lot. So, when he was not filming, he got disturbed. And the recording was at 9 am.

And sometimes he got disturbed, I have nothing in my stories, and he left.

Exactly.

And then he would come to the recording at 2 pm. Because he was not an actor. But there were many actors waiting. There was Ivaninho, who passed away. At the time, there were 85 years waiting for Carlinho Maia to arrive.

Because he thought he was the king of Instagram. Wow, he came here and pissed me off. He came here and pissed me off because he was bragging that he was the king of Instagram. Because in 2017, they left somewhere... Guys, it was 2017, he wants to take this with him for life. He must have left other kings, other queens.

But he likes to take what people say about him to take it to his life, you know?

Yeah, so at that time he was a lot. Now, like, talking to him, I see that he's a person who already has more plans for the future, knows what he's doing, more or less.

He really knows. Have you seen what he's doing, more or less. You know what? Have you seen what he's doing now? What? He puts everyone under the rain, with some tents. Then he drives by, filming, because stories are the same thing, ok? Filming everyone. Then the person will say, Carlinhos! He closes the window. And this person is under the rain and on the mud.

Not now.

Not now.

Not now.

It's like this. It's like this.

It's like this. The worst thing is that everyone says that on the off he's super cool, but look...

He can be a character that he does, engagement, when the person understands what engagement is, the person...

But do you admire him?

Admire... I admire...

You don't admire.

No, I admire the way he does things. He does things knowingly, he plans things. I don't admire the way he does things.

But if you're going to drink with him, you're going to drink, right?

I need to know, I need to talk. And another thing, I like to give him a vision, so he can understand something I understood. It's not being a teacher of anyone, but...

And why did you fight over the marriage?

I don't know, it's been so long. Remind me. What happened?

Did you fight over the marriage? There's no stop to the marriage?

He...

He said in the radio...

You didn't accept?

Yeah, that I didn't go...

You didn't accept.

Ah, that I didn't go to overshadow something. I think I was focusing. Then I said on Twitter, go fuck yourself, you son of a bitch.

But was there anything you didn't accept from him? He got very upset.

I don't know, maybe it was being a godfather. I think it was being a godfather.

He gets very upset.

But it's a disfavor, right? He doesn't even want me to be a godfather.

He's just calling me to do it. I want you to be my godfather. My son's godfather.

But as a son is cool. Because then the responsibility is with the child. I take care of someone who is coming.

That's cool. with the kids. Taking care of someone who's coming is nice. And in the case of GK, why don't you admire GK?

Who said that? I didn't say that. I admire GK, he's nice.

But what was the problem with GK there? Since you had with Carlinhos, with the stories, and GK. But GK also had a lot of problems lately,

you saw it before the rebranding. But not disturbing me. It was quiet there. She was very hard-working, to tell you the truth.

She what?

Hard-working.

Hard-working?

Like, to be able to give the character, to learn something. Because, like, we went to do a TV show, no one was there for nothing. We were learning, we were turning our backs to the camera. She was forced to turn around. She appears, but her mouth doesn't move. We were learning together, and she was trying hard.

JK came here with a lot of fear. People are afraid of that.

I understand.

Why is she tying her hair?

It's a different style in the cuts.

I see. Do you like long hair? You cut it once and let it grow again. I don't know It's not easy To go to the grand I could do my base

It is a crazy no more. I still miss come over. I took a string to ano You ask you that you think about what they might come along. I'll have a cabelo is our press on the society

cabelo, Tom bonito

Hey, I'll be safe is a killer. I guess I'm like shama. I'm sure you're so easy. I spit a cabbage They should be seated I did that regression, what's it called? You did regression? I shaved my head and let it grow.

It's spiritual.

It's regression, what's it called?

Transition.

Capillary transition. Capillary transition. Capillary, ok? I don't see you hanging out with a lot of people on the internet. You don't hang out, you don't like it?

No, I just don't do it. But it's ok to go, there's no problem.

You don't have a problem going, but in social events...

It's what I'm looking for, looking for it.

You don't go to a lot of social events, where people from the internet, or celebrities are there too?

No.

Why don't know. a red carpet. Today I don't care about that. Do you consider yourself vain? No. No, I don't usually... People on the internet like to say that I look ugly.

What?

It's like, oh, his hair... But the most smelly part of me is my hair.

It's the hair, but it's prejudice, you know?

It's prejudice. I look? Yeah, it's prejudice. I look like a beggar, a homeless guy.

It's prejudice with hair, tattoos.

Stigma.

Why did you get so many tattoos?

Because I wanted to show that... All of you are tattooed, guys. It looks like you were in jail yesterday. I wanted to show that tattooed people can be cool too. You don't have to be afraid of having a tattoo on your face. I don't care about anyone.

And the fights I fight, I get beaten up. Even where I'm supposed to be hitting, I get beaten up.

And why did you decide to fight? It's not just money. You make a lot of money. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. with Popó. With Popó, because he was the world champion who was retired and didn't have the visibility he should have.

Did you think you would beat him?

No. Not at all. I just wanted to make the movement in boxing. I knew everyone would talk and that people would be willing to fight each other. And it happened, what we see all the time.

Nego do Borel fighting.

Now everyone is fighting. Tese da Coronel. The guy from Borel fighting. Yeah, now everyone is fighting. The Colonel's thesis. A lot of people. So you knew that this movement was off and you would rise?

Yes.

You are already aware of your power.

For sure.

In that part I was sure I would move. And then it happened. And then the proposals started to come, and as I said, and then...

And now everyone is fighting, right? Is it Cristian Figueiredo fighting?

Everyone.

Gil Alves.

And everyone loses, right?

Everyone loses.

Oh, and the people who decide to fight now, everyone loses badly.

They know how to fight.

Yeah, they lose badly. Popó tattooed, right? Like, your fight, right? Tattooed on my chest.

Tattooed.

He likes you.

He does.

What about Bambam?

What about him?

He also had a fight with Bambam, right? He did, but he doesn't like Bambam. He didn't have a was also about to fight. He was determined to call someone to fight here.

I don't know Naldo.

Naldo.

But you chose my show, didn't you? Would you fight Naldo?

No, but as I said, that's why I think people wouldn't have to pay.

Him, right? Yeah.

Why is that? You have to pay the person. Explain that to me.

It's not who wins that takes the money. It's both of them saying, to fight, I'm going for so much. The other says, I'm going for so much. I don't pay, I don't pay.

And then it's going to be the sponsors, is that so?

Whoever has the money pays. If the sponsor has to pay, they pay. But the event doesn't have sponsors? The ring, I don't know what it's called. It depends on how it is. When I went to Mike Tyson's last event, I won everything. Everything? Everything. Everything.

I was treated like a king. A world-famous fighter. In other events, it wasn't like that. It depends on the resources of the event. What the event. What the event is doing.

But how many sponsors did you bring? I don't know. Do you bring sponsors? Like your sponsors?

I do.

To pay for the fight and invest to appear on some TV show?

I do. The more you need...

How many did you bring?

I don't even need sponsors. They paid me well, I didn't even care.

Damn, how much do you want to pay well to give away values?

About 3 million reais.

What? Wow, to lose?

Isn't it good?

Isn't it good?

Instead of generating 3 million to lose, how long did you fight? 15 minutes. I'm going to get a new job. I don't know.

I'm going to get a new job.

I don't know.

I'm going to get a new job.

I don't know.

I'm going to get a new job. I don't know. I'm going to get a new job.

I don't know.

I'm going to get a new job. I don't know.

I'm going to get a new job.

I don a lot. I tried a lot. I really wanted to, but I couldn't. Damn, 3 million.

But I fought against the Asian World Champion. I'm a person who is nothing in boxing, trying to fight with very cool people. So I still put up with 6 rounds, top. I'm trying to remedy.

Oh, yeah, ugly thing.

I went there to get that money.

I understand. 3 million. Here in Brazil, it's also...

No, it's not all that money.

No?

No.

Then it's more or less how much?

What are you talking about? These other ones that appear on TV, that fought and everything?

I'll tell you that what I know about boxing is what happened at the Multishow in 2010, you know? In the channel that was on Multishow's side, you know? That's what I know about boxing. I don't think Multishow had those rights, so I think it was a separate channel. That's what I know about boxing.

So, here it must be around 50 thousand reais.

Oh, you don't do it here.

100 thousand reais, no.

You don't know why it's not worth it. Then people start fighting with each other, you know? Like, Naldo fights with I don't know who, Bambam fights with I don't know who.

But it generates something, right?

It generates shame, yes.

For example, Naldo comes out lying on purpose in places to be able to generate...

Because the first lie generated something, and then they continue. Naldo fought with Popó, by the way. Then Popó said he had his sponsors. And then he wanted to pay... Look at this fight. He wanted to pay a fee to Naldo. Naldo refused.

And Popó said, why did you refuse? Your show is not even worth 15 thousand. It's more than your show. And Naldo didn't want to because he was taking a lot of brands. And he was fighting over it. It was all via stories, right? show I don't know don't carry a portal you found a little more time to my case can win a similar day to top of my big ass into the stars now because I think I know cap is so many I don't care that's all my time I don't

say to me if I can this is a big and I don't have my son as soon as he feel if you can't get into practice

I'm going to say you know that I could say we need to pay attention to say this is a sort of You don't have to pay attention to these subjects. It's useless.

Ok, I'll pay attention to another subject. Are you dating?

Several.

Several? Are you dating someone?

No, it's because a lot of news are appearing. One is dating someone else, another is dating... If I'm dating people that are on the news, I have several girlfriends.

And there's always news of you dating, right? I don't know what you have that people like to know a lot about your personal life. Why?

I don't know. I don't know. I think a culture has been created in this country, where we get people from the beginning and analyze their lives, and take them as a parameter for our lives.

But you've also dated several famous people, right? Who famous have you dated?

Luisa Sonsa. I think it's just her.

And I'll tell you, she'll be happy now.

Why?

People will judge her, like, she's famous because she dated you. But do you believe I went to meet you because of her?

I bet.

And there are a lot of people who do.

She's a pop singer, you know?

Pop.

And pop comes where it doesn't. She's a pop singer. She'll be happy now. I think the only person who met her, who met you, is through her. She'll be mega happy now. Luisa, I'm telling you here, I'm telling him, in for him, ok? I met him through you. See? And now that she's talking about her new album, do you see her stuff?

I see. It appears to me too.

Yeah? But you don't keep searching?

No, because she's very famous. A lot of her stuff appears. Or on TT too. All the time on TT, on the top trends, I see Luisa.

I see she's going to flo to flop with her new album. Why? She doesn't want to dance, she doesn't want choreography, she doesn't want TikTok viral, she doesn't want looks produced, big productions, she doesn't want anything.

She should take a break for dancing, right?

She doesn't want to. I could give her some advice.

Everything purple, her dancing legs, she sometimes puts on green, but it's all purple. A season of rest for the bones.

I don't know, because she had her term, which was very hard, and she released an album, and with Chico too, and now that she's happy, I think she's in a more vibe era.

But I can say, meeting Luís, Luís is one of those people who, when they are happy and produce, they hunt down the sadness. She is sad. She hunts down the sadness and is happy that the sadness produced something. She likes it. When you finished, was it very you to forget Luisa? It wasn't hard because we ended up... We ended up fine.

The confusion was with the people after, but we ended up fine.

One thing is to end up, but you were married. When you're married, you stop living together.

Yes, but then, very quickly, there was this whole controversy. You know? This one with Vitão and her. Very quickly, there was this whole controversy. You know? This one about Vitão and her.

Very quickly, there was no time to suffer.

So, who decided? Was it you or her? It was me.

It was you?

Me.

But when this Vitão controversy happened, you didn't say anything either.

What do you mean?

You were on your side. The controversy about her being with Vitão.

No, I asked her.

You asked her?

I asked her. Let me see what she told me at the time.

I asked her if she already liked him before she broke up with me. Were you already suspicious?

No, only after the whole thing with the Aue and the people commenting.

The video, right?

That's it. And then I asked. Before that, I didn't think about anything.

What did she say when you asked?

No, she said no. That it was fine, that I just had to work. That was the answer.

And did you believe her?

Yeah.

We have to believe that we're married and trust, right?

But when you asked if you were married, it wasn't after you broke up.

I thought it was possible.

It's possible that we're going to change from there to here. When you saw the video, did you think, Wow, Luisa, calm down? Or did you...

No, man, I'm very calm. I'm going to tell you. I'm the kind of person who can do whatever I want.

Luisa seemed to love you a lot. A lot.

A lot. And why did you break up with her? Was she sad?

No.

Did she piss you off? No, because we weren't... we weren't that married thing anymore. We were like two cousins talking inside the house.

For you, but for her it didn't seem like that, I think.

But then, it's with her, right?

What?

And it wasn't with me.

But was it just a conversation when you met?

No, no, it was several times. We lived a great time together. And then we talked several times. When I felt like that, we talked several times. I talked to her a lot, but she was at the beginning of her career, working a lot, and we would take a long time to see each other, we would travel a lot, and it was getting boring.

It was getting boring.

And you were the one who came to the conversation,

I saw the way she was treating her career, the things she was doing in her career, and I was kind of blocking her, you know? She wanted to do more things, you know? She wanted to do more.

You were blocking her.

I didn't say anything, I didn't stop her from doing anything. But the person by itself...

Yes, it weighs.

It weighs.

It carries. Can I... For example, when I was in this Vittão clip, it was already something like... She used to tell me, look, I'm going to make a video. It wasn't a surprise, I'm going to make a video. I wanted to do it like this, like this. What do you think?

I said, man, you have to do whatever you want. Because if I were to make a movie and I had to pick someone and it was a cruel scene, you wouldn't be able to stop me if I had to do the thing I had to do. So I think I... She asked you questions and you answered. So the problem was you, because she was just asking a question.

No, so it wasn't me. No, it was you. Look at the way you're answering the girl. She was just asking a question. I'm answering you now. If I'm married to you, and I say,

Oh, honey, would I do this and that? And you say, who has to do it is you, it's your career, you don't have to be here to stay, if I'm here to stay talking about how you should do it, it's wrong, so you were already super rude. Do you understand? This is not a husband's position, really, the girl was eating a breadstick and the devil crushed her. She was depressed, she was angry, she was getting angry with her.

I didn't do anything.

The girl is asking you, if you're taking her to that place. But if I have to say what you have to do in your career, because in mine I don't want you to do it that way, it's because you weren't well.

No, it wasn't like that. You said your facts.

How was it then?

I said she could do it the way she wanted to.

But she wanted advice.

Because she couldn't stop me if I wanted to. So I can't stop her either. But I think she, in the sense of being married and all, didn't want to do certain things. So I thought, I'll go out, she does her own thing.

You know what I think? That you were treating her with indifference. When that moment comes, you really have to finish.

That's what I did.

And that's what you did. You were already indifferent. And that's why the cliff came out.

Success.

And success, right?

That's why the cliff so clumsy, you know? The fall was big, but I had to jump. When it's with me, go higher. You extended your hand. You pushed me from the cliff. Do you understand?

Because you were already treating her with indifference.

No, it wasn't like that.

And she insisted. And she wanted to say, I love you, but not you. She really loved me. See? Now we understand the composition of Penhasco. Then came Chico.

What did you think of her relationship with Chico? Was she like that with you too?

I remember that I used to talk to her at that time, when she was dating, and it was funny that she used to say things like, I don't know. And that I used to talk to her at that time, when she was dating, and it was funny that she used to say things like, I don't know. And that we would see each meet about four years later. She told me once that she had taken it on a...

How is it? A postcard?

She went to the postcard shop.

She went to the postcard shop and the postcard shop said that we would be together five years later. I said, Luiza, do you want to know if we will be together?

Wow, she was seeing things for you to come back. You had already pushed her from the penis. I think the girl is still in a cartomante, people. She insists, right?

She said, but it's cool.

And then, at that time, it was funny, because I also only saw it on the internet. At that time, we didn't talk much. But in the beginning, we were close.

You were the one who avoided it, right? So you could get used to the term, right?

We were always friends. We were always friends. Since always. When there was a controversy, something in my career, she always talked to me. And then you saw it. What do you think? Nowadays, she always talked to me. And then you saw, what do you think?

Nowadays she doesn't talk anymore.

She talked the other day.

Yeah, she still asks?

No, no, but it has nothing to do with us, it has to do with life, work, career, etc.

Yes, but then with Chico, you said you had talked to her at that time, what did you think of Chico?

I don't know, I don't have a lot of opinion because I didn't pay much attention to him. I made a joke, right? Oh yeah? Tell us. It worked in my show, one day I went to hang out with a girl and she said, oh, he's down for me.

And I said, I have a problem with that. She said, oh, but you do it, when the girl is like this, I'm like this. She's like this, like Chico. I said, if Chico wants me... And then I made this joke. It was the most attention I gave to the subject.

But you're going to give a little more now, that I'll remind you.

Because think...

Because think, if you finish, and Luisa goes to Ana Maria. You know? To tell about all this nonsense that you threw yourself into. How would it be? Do you think Luisa would have gone a little bit over the top

if she asked you, Whindersson, am I going to Ana Maria? Do I say it? What would you have said?

So, I... I got pregnantto it.

You would tell her to get into it.

Before doing anything, I get out of it. But people have their own lives, their own opinions. That's a good advice. People have their own lives, their own opinions, and they follow what they believe in. And I think it's cool when people have...

That's a good advice, because she lost her hair, she got bald. Her hair fell off. Her hair fell off, she made a documentary, bald. Practically, with three strands of hair. She lost some hair, you know? She got bald. You should have told the internal class.

I participated in this documentary.

You said in an interview that you would come back with more. Do you remember this one?

Yes.

Would you still come back to Maria?

No, I have this affection that I would go back, yes.

Why would you go back to her?

Hypothetically, not that I want to.

Ah, but she's soft on you.

I know people who are very in love. And I don't date these people just because I'm in love with her. But I have good memories with Maria. Uh-huh. We're like, wow, things are going to happen and my world is going to shine. So, I have this nice feeling of remembering.

But do you think that if there was a flirt, if she flirted with you at a party...

She doesn't flirt.

But if there was a flirt...

But she doesn't flirt.

If she looked at you, then?

I don't like it.

We can talk about it. She doesn't like me in that sense. But if it happened, would you give her the rope?

I would give her the rope.

The rope, the rope.

The rope, the same way she would give you the rope.

No, she wouldn't give me the rope.

Wow, but you're so disbelieving.

But I'm saying it, because I know the truth.

You know she wouldn't give you the rope. Why wouldn't she?

I don't know, I think it's been a while. It's not for anything specific, I think it's because... No, really. It's gone.

I think she's empowered. She's too empowered. She already knows the ones that have passed. I was that guy, you know? I understand.

Red flag.

Would you give this string to Luisa? I would. You wouldn't? I would, yes.

But you wouldn't. Do you want anything else?

I want a water.

Water.

Yes, water.

I would.

Luisa is too cute. You wouldn't.

You didn't say it the same way you said Maria.

No, but I would. Maria or Luisa? I would, Luiza is too cute. You wouldn't, you didn't say it the same way you said Maria.

No, but I would.

Maria or Luiza?

I would. Maria or Luiza?

Yes.

Maria.

Maria, see? You wouldn't. You were pushing again. Luiza is coming from the cliff, I think you were able to climb. You go there and kick her so she falls.

Isn't Luiza married? Now. That's why her album is going to flop.

Why am I going to...

That's why her album is going to flop. She's super in love. She doesn't want to put looks, she doesn't want to make music videos, she doesn't want to put choreography because she's living the best moment of her life.

Instead of waiting, being sad to release another album,

she doesn't. I don't expect to be sad to release another album. Or do like Rihanna, she has 6 kids, one after the other.

Yeah, and then she makes music for her son. But anyway, that's it. Look, Winder, it was great talking to you. But the fans also want to know about you. They also have questions. Now our chat...

Let me see if it changed. Now we go to our toxic chat, ok? These are questions from the fans for you.

Ok?

Ángelo, no accent. Whindersson, how is it to be a dinosaur? Explain the causes of extinction of your species.

Because I'm too outdated, is it? Or is it that there are no more people of your species. Why? Am I too outdated?

Or is it that there are no more people of your species, right? Since it's extinct.

Who is like you?

In what sense?

In Brazil, like you, who has a career like you, super endowed, comedian, youtuber, actor, singer, businessman, look how many things.

There isn't, I think.

So, that's why he's back on Extinction.

So it was a good... So it's not toxic, no, it was cool. Yellow September, he was.

Yeah, right, Yellow September, look.

Yellow September, man, he remembered, after so many things.

Yeah.

Lucas Terra, you planted the grass of the primordial, who would you, without mercy, be able to be today?

I would be able to, like, take it off the net?

Or be able to help someone, like, to give a little bit of a pat?

Give a little pat? I think... All the participants of the Rancho do Maia.

But for you to be able to do all the participants of the Rancho do Maia, you have to do the Carlinhos. And then you already know how it's gonna be, right? No, then I'm gonna be podded. Pod a flower full of thorns.

I'm going to be podded. No, I say pod because people are passing by, it's the place where there's a lot of exposure, whether you like it or not, you can say whatever you want, but Carlinho really gives visibility to a lot of people.

Yes.

So, you passing by and gaining visibility, And you leave thinking that you have to lower the glass for the people walking and go up too. So I would give that little kick to those people.

Yes. BlogsNationBR, when did you realize that comedy was going to save your life?

The moment I realized that comedy was going to save my life, I think it was when I found out that I had to do more concepts in the show, give a message to the show. Because when I help people, when I touch people, I feel better. So that's what really saved me. I'm always saying something that I think is doing good to those who are listening, and then I feel a little better.

So my show stopped being just jokes, and it became more like, let's make a joke and talk a little about basic sanitation, just to be criticized. It got cooler.

Basic sanitation.

There's a joke like that, on Netflix, it's called This is not a cult, there's a whole joke about basic sanitation. It's really cool, it's one of my best, I like it a lot.

What do you think of gossip pages?

I think it's part of the gear that makes everything work. There's a lot of things we know about there. There's a lot of truth we know about there. There's a lot of lies we know about there.

Do you tell a lot of lies?

I've told more, but I think they're being more careful. After the girl who passed away because of the gossip pages, because of fake news. Wow, they did a good job, they calmed her down. They held her down. When it's something very certain, they post it, but in general, there's no more footprint.

Not all, actually.

Unfortunately, because of a thing like that. And then what I think is this, I follow a few, I follow follow gossip pages that I know the owner of. I know who the person is. If I see something I don't like, I can go to the person and say, what is this?

Do you think that so many years on the internet affect your mental health?

I think that everything I lived was because of the internet. So much that it was good, because I can't deny that my life, my mother, my whole family lives well because of it. Because of the internet I could get things. Now, all the mental problems I had were also because of the internet.

Junior Lima, if the audience knew 100% of what you are, would you have more fans or more cancellations?

More fans. More fans?

More fans. Because people who know me, like, some comedian for example, who is my fan, they all come to talk to me and then say like this, I was very afraid to meet you. Because the way it is, sometimes the person on the internet or has a fan of something, comes there and...

But this is good. Everyone is scared. and you get there and... But that's good. But it's good, they have that fear. It's good not to get... It's very good. It's respect. Keep it a little bit... You can't get there just like that.

What don't they know about you?

I think I study a lot about life and what comes after life. I pay a lot of attention to these subjects, I study a lot about it. And that's what I like to talk about when I'm alone with someone. I like to talk about life and what people believe, where they think they're going after they die, what happens. I like to talk about it.

Wow, what a crooked talk, guys. It seems crooked, but with me it's good, that's why people like it.

Where do you talk? Just at home? At home. Wow, imagine a party with you and those conversations.

So, where do you think you're going after you leave?

Yeah, guys. Wow. Where do you think you're going?

I have a tactile to talk. I speak right. And where do you think you're going? I think it goes where you imagine it goes. At the threshold. I think it's mental. I swear I think I'm going there. I think you create your own reality.

What did you create?

I created a next level. A next level, like this. Following the logic of when you grow up, you go to school, you learn, you become an adult, you learn forever. I would go from here to somewhere else, to a new phase.

Depending on how you went. If you were a bad boy, go to Umbral.

André Blanco. Which celebrity do you think is more annoying than the one you met?

Which celebrity do I think is more annoying than the one I met? I didn't meet many, because I don't hang out with the guys. Who, Mike? We saw you up close and you thought it was annoying. Don't talk to because I don't hang out with them. Let's see. So, Mike, we were walking around and you thought it was really annoying.

Don't talk to him, don't talk to me. I was just going to ask.

Otherwise I would interview him.

No, you know that...

But then I pick him up to interview him and put him in your place. But since I don't want to know anything, please. I know, I don't answer. Sorry. Okay. Why do they call you a dinosaur? Is it your appearance?

I didn't understand either. I was thinking.

Dinosaur, what is your view on current creators? What has changed from your time here? Is it your appearance?

So, you know I'm a dinosaur? Okay. So, you know I'm a dinosaur, but... It's okay. But I think it's the content, the speed, that memes saturate very fast. In the past it took a long time, you know? I'm a fag, on the bed, I scratch the bed... I don't think there's even a meme, right?

No, that was a year.

And bands made music, and things happened. Nowadays, in a week, we abuse a lot fast business there the girl of the plane that does not want to give the already in the farm the guys are already like my God I saw a meme today that was a meme explaining a meme that was like this people like one thing everyone likes the same thing a brand now likes the thing everyone can like because the brand liked the thing is how a meme is because the brand liked the thing. That's how memes are born and die nowadays.

It grows, explodes, then a brand says, I liked it. They advertise it and everyone throws the meme out.

I see that, mainly, I think that the memes come from Gen Z. There are a lot of memes that come from Generation Z. And then when it comes to Generation...

That's why I'm a dinosaur, I didn't understand Gen Z. I'm a dinosaur. I got it, Galé.

I think that's it, that's why you're a dinosaur, I got it too. But when it comes out of Gen Z, it's boring, because everyone already knows it. For example, I have a meme, I'm Gen Z. I like this meme. Then I see Celso Portioli making a joke, you know?

It's Eliana.

It's Eliana.

It's not funny anymore, you know?

Ratinho shared it.

Yeah, you know? What do you think of Jenzi?

I think...

Do you want to follow any? No. No, right? You don't like it. I've seen it. You're going to be the type of person on the internet who doesn't like what Jenzi does.

I'm going to keep criticizing the drink that's coming, right?

And there's going to be one just like you, ok?

I hope so.

Get ready. There's going to be one just like you. Will they like me when they see it? He's going to look like a disfigured person. You'll have to like it. You'll have to like it. Manuel Junior, how do you observe the changes in digital media and today, which way would you start? Wow, that's a serious question.

Can you see it? That's the yellow theme.

That's the yellow theme. I told you. The yellow theme. I told you, I already explained with the little flower, yellow September, this month I told you.

What a question of a noon program, my God, what a question of a noon newspaper, how is the conference?

You see, coming to a program like this, it's like that, go to the Insider, he'll be there left a pair of the tracing three minutes. I follow

Apache a person who you know

That's good. You know, sorry No, both as a response to a car. She told me precision Let you What's it area faith? Oh, I'll go different in real. relation to the internet if you could go back?

I think I wouldn't... I think my relationships...

I knew it, it was in my head.

I think I wouldn't be very willing, because I think it would change everything. When I went to Egypt with Maria, we went alone, without telling anyone. And we were slowly getting to know each other. And I have my time for things, I hate it when someone forces something. And the internet in this case...

And what's your time for things?

Someone posted us walking together, going into a hotel. And these comments really messed with her. Like, why don't you want to be with me? Because it wasn't like that. It was something for us to walk alone, without anyone's influence, and we talk.

And then everything started to change. And then I would change this, this issue of exposure, because I think it changes a lot of opinions in our heads. When there are influences...

No, for sure, I think so too. But if it wasn't for you, would Luisa be the only one? What? If it wasn't for you, would Luisa be the only one?

She has a lot of talent and she is very hardworking. I've seen that since forever. But I was in a...

Be honest, a question for you.

Yes, but I'm being honest. When we were talking, she and I were talking, and at one point she was very upset with the comparisons or with people saying something on the internet like, oh, because you dated him and everything. And she said, how long do you think I'll be successful? Because I think...

Did you argue with her or not? No, I was serious. I was serious. She said, I think it'll take about 8 years 8 years to be successful. I said, Luiz, I don't give you a year and a half to be successful. And this, who is talking is a guy who had nothing, who left a place that had no perspective,

I have a notion of what I'm talking about. You have a year and a half, in less than a year and a half, she was successful, she was successful in about 8 months, 9 months was that slow... When you see the video, you say, this is where the pop star will come. I had a notion, and I told her.

I have a notion of the creative will and strength she has. When I see her new video, I say, this part of the video was made by her. I'm sure, I know.

It's like when Zé Filipe was Virgínia. Virgínia was there giving a lot of support to Zé. You were giving support to Luisa in that sense. You just didn't dance, you talked. Until a moment came when you didn't want to anymore. Let's go to our quick round of baseball.

The interview is almost over. Let's go. An ex round of baseball, because the interview is almost over. Yeah! Ok, let's go. An ex.

Luiza Sonza.

A good ex.

I knew it would come. Maria.

There are people who answer the same thing, you know? If I say something, it's a good thing. Like, you could, ok? If you wanted to answer Luiza Sonza. No thing, you know? If I say something, it's a good thing, like... You could, if you wanted to, respond to Luisa Sonza. No, but you wanted Maria. It's Maria, right? Wow, Luisa, you really have a boring face, right?

No, but she's not, guys, because I have to choose... Luisa is boring, right? I'm happy, man. A song. Penhasco. And to make it worse, there was Penhasco 2. There is, right?

There is Penhasco 2, which is for Demi.

It's cruel, because it's with an artist...

Yeah, it's with Demi. There was Penhasco 2, but it won't end, okay? Will Penhasco 3 come? Will Luisa do it?

I'm very happy. Guys, she's happy.

Penhasco 3 is about to make you very happy.

I'm not saying anything, but...

A trap.

A trap can be... Patamar, by Lil Indie. Me. A show. This is definitely not the cult I'm doing now, which is what I like the most of all I've done. It's not for nothing, but I really like it.

A career.

A career? Adam Sandler's. I think it's really cool to have your own producer and your friends continue making movies with you for the rest of your life.

A dog.

Regina.

Regina? This is the one that... You adopt a lot of dogs, right? This one doesn't die, right?

No, this one doesn't die. This one I had with Luisa.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

That little one. It's a little one.

That one was with Luisa, and the other one with me.

I see. A regret?

A regret? I don't have many regrets. I think things teach you, right? I don't have many regrets.

A Whindersson for Whindersson.

A walkway.

A walkway? Why?

I'm a person who comes from far away, who is going somewhere and doesn't know where it is. I'm in this passage through the land, having a crazy experience, full of people, relationships and everything. But I'm going to move on.

You haven't gone to the place you want yet?

No, not yet.

That's it. Guys, this was Whindersson. I hope you enjoyed the interview. Are you breathing hard? You were tense, right?

I was.

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