FELIX SIAUW: KOI.. CERITA DOOONG... AYO... 😂 - PODCAST

I want to ask you, if I was asked, how can I not go to jail for making people happy? I said, it's okay, it's your right. How, sir? There's someone who went into someone else's house, brought a gun.

Hmm, this is for me, what kind of mental effort is this for you to show from here? Until a few years ago, I was sure there would be no evil officers like this. It turns out in front of the eyes. But the closer I get here, the closer it gets. Sorry, sorry. The definition is evil officer or stupid officer.

Ustad Felix Siao. How are you?

Wow. I was driving him.

Oh, Ustadz is a driver?

The world is upside down now.

The world is upside down. Because he likes to drive. Why don't we take advantage of it?

It can't be like that. If the lights are red, the police will arrest the driver. Ustadz Felik, who is the passenger?

There's a father. That's why we brought a father.

Ustadz, do you remember the last time we did a podcast? Yes.

There were a few questions. One of them was this. Ustad said, -"Wow, if I become Prabowo, I'll be so confused." Ustad said that. At that time... It was still okay. I was talking about. At that time... It was still okay?

It was still safe. It was still safe. A month after that...

It happened.

It happened.

And I still remember when we highlighted how the officials responded to an event. It was so frontal.

And that's what we see now. Right. I also discussed that I was wrong, I'm sorry. If I have a personality that I think there is a defense, 50-50, I still think. I said that to my boss. I'm a little confused where to start. But maybe...

So, Pemicu. We'll start with Pemicu. You're a history major, right?

History? I think it's Thailand.

But is the Pemicu the same?

Thailand is more crowded, right? The Pemicu is very different. The previous prime minister of Thailand who is in office now, he requested the king to dissolve the parliament. So that the voters can be reelected again. But not because of that? But not because of that.

No. It's not because of the officials' comments that hurt too combined to hurt the hearts of the people. Is there any other area like that? Actually, Thailand was like that, but in 2020.

Like that?

Like that, it's a big demo too. But there are no victims, that's October 2020.

Philippines?

The Philippines that is new now, it's also like that. Because there is a flood, the handling is bad. Suddenly, the officials and their children are flexing, walking around. The people are heartbroken. In the Philippines? In the Philippines. So it's almost the same, the context.

Or if we pull back a little, Malaysia had to go down to the streets.

Malaysia had to go down, right?

Malaysia had to go down. But it was organized and not for a long time. Because of the increase in living costs. Malaysia's GDP is higher than ours, right?

Yes.

And they complained that it's not increasing.

Maybe because of the instant noodles, it's rare there.

Yes, people are unhappy.

What do you mean? We start from the beginning. So, people are unhappy. People are unhappy. So, what do you mean? We'll start from the beginning. We'll talk about... Because in one of Ustaz's videos, there's one that I watched,

you banned prison.

Right?

I want to talk about that too. Because people, at that time, there were happy people.

Many happy people. And until now, that's right. Many people were happy. And until now, many people still oppose the amendment.

Because they think it's targeted.

Yes. Because they think it's not a normal punishment. Yes, this is a kind of example of the RUO for asset theft. That's right. But it's targeted. So, okay, according to them, okay. You don't agree with that, right?

I still don't agree with that, right? I still don't agree, even though it's an unpopular opinion for now. You also said that this is probably an unpopular opinion. Yes, that's right.

You said that.

And it's true. All the comments said that it was an unpopular opinion up to this point.

Up to this point.

But I'm sure it will make more sense in the future. Okay, we'll talk discuss that later. We will discuss the beginning first. What is this? Jealousy or what? Okay, first I want to try to emphasize the statement of President Prabowo. That is, I also have a suggestion to the officials. That is, if something happens, don't let us deny it. We feel denied.

For example, when it is said that this is a mix of foreign hands. Or this is funded by foreigners. First, we want to tell you that such a statement seems to deny everything that happens, which is directly seen by the community. For example, the bad response from the officials. Or how they still do flexing when people are in trouble and so on.

It seems to be denied and says, if you don't like it, it means you are influenced by foreigners. That's the first. The second, actually, there's nothing wrong with foreigners. Because actually Indonesia is happy with foreigners.

For example, if we look at it, and if I'm not mistaken, there are foreigners, right? The advisory board? The advisory board is foreigners. I don't know. I don't think it I think it's not happening. What? It's not happening.

It's not happening? I don't know. But it's been shown. Even though we don't know if it's happening or not. And still, many of our projects involve foreigners. For example, the fast train project involving China.

Indonesia is now listed as the largest debtor in Japan, for example. That's also a foreign country. It means that if we are ready to borrow, I think, especially to foreigners, it means that we are definitely ready to be influenced by foreigners. And the question is not about influence or not,

but whether it's right or not. Because without realizing it, we also take a lot of foreign cultures, foreign ways of thinking, and all kinds of things. Even the big decisions in this country are not often often involve foreigners.

But it can be true, right?

It can be true, very true. Well, that's why we need first, when people don't deny, both from the government, don't deny that there is a natural anger from the people, and the people should also be taught not to deny that the actions they do, deny that the actions they do...

Sorry, the actions they do have the potential to be, for example, hanged.

I agree with Ustaz, with the statement that, in my opinion, the perpetrator is not the third party. The perpetrator is actually inside himself. Including the lack of empathy and so on. And it's already accumulated. There are many PHKs. That's the inside. It's absorbed.

Foreigners can enter.

Definitely. Because if we're in the family, for example. We have to remember that in the family, outsiders can only enter if we fight first. And in religion, Allah has already told us, Rasul also told us,

don't be rebellious, because being rebellious makes you weak, and your enemies become stronger. Then other people enter. Correct. It means, if we don't deny and say,

for example, President Prabowo said, the task of knowing there is a threat from a foreigner is not a people's task. But the task of the officials. They have to continue, not only when there is a demonstration, but every day, even when the country is at peace, they still have to think every day,

what if a foreigner attacks us at this time? In any way, for example. So at that time, he can focus on what needs to be done. If there was a reconciliation, I'm sure the community wouldn't be angry. Indonesians are so funny. People suddenly, in a state of anger, they're funny.

See, there's someone carrying a basket.

Yes, there are women washing on the street, even though they're ADP.

Yes, some become Kuntilana.

Kunti.

Some become Dracula. Some became Kuntilana, some became Dracula Indonesian people are funny I mean, if it's for provocation

The writing is like GGS Gara Gara Saroni Not Ganteng-Ganteng Serigala Gara Gara Saroni

And there are still times when Indonesian people make weird memes I mean, in my opinion Well, if it's been sorted out I think it could be better Although it may not be totally solved. But as I said, this doesn't happen in a day or two.

So the solution doesn't happen in a day or two. We have to pay attention to education. Especially education for the people above us.

What kind of education?

Let's see. There are many kinds of education. That's right. Formal education is only representative of education. Because formal education is a transfer of knowledge. But there are also amazing high school students, right?

Correct. But in Islam, education is a transfer of character. And this transfer of character can't be done only through knowledge. If it's through knowledge, it's easy. Just open YouTube, open a school, they get knowledge, for example. Or googling. But, like my son, he's happy to listen to Sepulang Sekolah.

He got a lot of knowledge. But, does his character change? Not yet, of course. Because the character is from people. For example, from the ulamas and all kinds of people.

What does it mean, the AQ?

AQ is part of, not a character. So, we can say that character is one. So, how to respond to one thing is a character. And according to you, a lot of people blundered. I think a lot of people blundered. From the top to the bottom, everyone blundered. It means that I don't blame the people in general.

I can't. Because people are just a response to what happened. I can't blame the people in general. Because the people are just a response to what's happening. I can't blame the officials in general either. Why? Because where are the officials from? They are from the people. Officials are representatives of the people.

They are elected by the people. If 80% of the people are not fully educated, then the people are the ones who are elected. Reflect on it. is not fully educated, then the people will be the chosen ones. We don't have the privilege to get a good choice. We always have the majority. So, if the majority of the people are not well educated,

then the chosen ones will be like that.

It's the same like this. Can I say it out loud?

Sure. It's the same as talent search. Talent search. I've been a talent search jury for several times. What I hate the most is when talent search is based on SMS. The most SMS.

The most SMS.

The most SMS benefits a certain party. Right. Provider. Right, the provider.

Provider, and then it's shared. Because there's a sharing. Second, do you believe it? I was there, I was a judge many times.

Certain areas, it turns out, spend more.

Okay.

So if he's a participant from Jakarta,

don't expect a lot of SMS there.

Yes, because he doesn't have a kind of SMS. Because there's no pride. Pride to the local area.

But if you bring it from Medan, Makassar, or wherever. Wow, there's a lot of SMS.

Whether it's someone who plays badly, or not competent. But there's a lot of SMS.

The SMS is much higher.

The one who lost is good. That's what we talked about yesterday, right? Well, this brings a big problem in my opinion. So, this is clearly the beginning of a people who then see something that for them has no empathy. If we can say, do you remember when I said about One Piece? One Piece is not about the sea, but One Piece actually tells about the harmony.

Because the most real thing is the harmony. The Prophet Muhammad's speech is that the harmony is like a black dot in the middle of a white cloth. It means that it will really be seen. Well, when people see the harmony, they will definitely move. That's what happened.

But why did it explode now? I asked Abigail yesterday. Why did it explode now? I asked Abigail about that yesterday. Why did it explode now? I mean, outside... Sorry.

Outside of Almarhum Afan. Outside of what happened. There was a demo. Why did it explode when the DPR members were like that? Why didn't it explode when the LPG gas was 3 kilowatts gone? Why didn't it explode when LPG gas was 3 kilowatts? Why didn't it explode when...

Well, there are many reasons. I don't know for sure. But as a person who is a normal person, I see it because of the confusion. So if the confusion is not... Oh, for example, we don't need LPG gas, there is something worse.

But it doesn't cause anything. Pertamina. Pertamina is used by everyone. And it's bigger than LPG because it's felt by almost everyone every day. Unlike LPG which can be replaced every few days. But LPG is not as big as DP and MPR. Why? Because it's something that really relates to them when they're feeling something.

It's the same, Sir. In my opinion, why is it exploding here? Because this DPR shows that it is more sensitive to the people. With their actions, with their dancing. Then when asked why they dance, the answer is like, we are artists, the mocking is more sensitive. So like, if the Pertamina is all the way,

oh, this is damaging, damaging. Maybe it doesn't hurt your heart. Try if the director of Pertamina said this. If you can't buy gas, don't use gas, don't block. It's like a party. Right. It's like a party.

Like a big party.

Like a sudeo.

Sudeo, who said bring 50,000 people.

Please. That's it. Yes, that's the name of the Palembang language, do you know what? The Palembang language is called Ngampo. Ngampo is the Ngenye language. The Javanese language is Kemoplo.

It's not Nolong. It's not Nolong.

It's like, it's really challenging. The Indonesian language is challenging, but in a more severe form. Ngenye. Ngenye, but maybe the Pal from the word Ngampo. Ngampo is Ngenye. Because if we remember from the TV show,

they said, don't compare DPR with Kecilatan.

Right.

Why do they attack the people now? You are our representative. It's getting faster. People become more sensitive, and the desire to take action is greater. And in One Piece, that's the story, Om. That's why when we see, people say this,

is there a connection with One Piece? One Piece is more recursive than people's dislikes. Back again. In One Piece, there is a story about people named Tendu Yubito. I was talking to Koi, Koi. I thought Tendu Yubito was just an about nothing. And I've never seen that in the real world. Now I see it. So, I just talked to Ustad Felix yesterday.

I told Ustad Felix, when I saw Trin Tributo, what we saw was a government official, and because he was so stupid, he belittled the people because he didn't care. Usually, if a government official is in power, he wants to stay in his position, he's a journalist. So he can be chosen again. This is not like, you are weak people, shoot.

I told Seth Felix, until a few years ago, I'm sure there won't be a bad officer like this. It's obvious. But the more I go here, the closer it is. Sorry, sorry, the definition is bad officer or stupid officer. So, people in Tenryu Bito can be called stupid officer.

Stupid officer. So, people in Tenryu Bito can be called stupid villains. Stupid villains. The definition of villain is different.

Yes.

The closer we get to this point, we don't have to think about the picture. We don't have to think about the public opinion. We just say what's in our head.

Because I believe. I believe. Even though... You can fake it.

That's right. But it turns out not. Even though... You can fake it.

That's right. But it turns out not. You know, when was the first time I mentioned someone's name in my content? Just guess, what makes me angry. Before that, I never mentioned anyone's name in my content.

Never mentioned anyone's name?

Never. The first time, because I felt... I was so annoyed, because it was insulting my intellectuality. So I was really humiliated intellectually.

No need to spoil it.

Okay, it's not me, right?

No.

It was the case of MK. I was intellectually... I said, do you think I'm that stupid? Do you think I'm that stupid? I mean, I can say... So, after the MK case, for example,

which made me angry again, not angry, angry, there was an officer who said this, yes, we made this for young people, so whoever young people, we give you a chance,

you can do anything, young people, we give you a chance.

I said, bullshit.

So, what you mean is, your intellectuals are biased."

Right.

But, on the people's side, they are biased towards the previous one. We are biased in different ways. For me, after that, there's no other case that surprised me more.

But, which one is biased? When Shahroni said...

If someone wants to dissolve the DPR, he is the tallest person in the world. For me, I'm clear with MK. Because for me, I can only be offended if it's about intellectuality. But if it's like before, for example...

If it's Herony and other members of DPR, which one do you prefer?

I prefer Goyang-Goyang.

Goyang-Goyang? Not the one who is said toPR citizens? Hmm. Which one do you prefer? I prefer the one who is more active. Active?

Not the one who is being told to help?

No. I prefer the active one. Because it's really near empathy. I understand how to humble people. And I try to put my position. For example, I was criticized about one thing.

And I was active. And then, you think too much about the 3 million salary. For example, when I was an ustad, I was once in charge of 3 million. I thought, when I did that, I was so bad. When I did that.

So, I was like Timothy Ronald when he said fitness people are lazy. I said, that's right. I think I'm lazy.

Because if you say, even though I was angry at that time,

but I mean, when the DPR is dispersed, there is a risk. True. There is a risk of that. So maybe it's just the words. That's right, Om. That's why I, for example, if I fake it, like Om said earlier,

why don't they try to fake it, for example? I will say this, so here's the thing, friends, the name DPR is a part of our constitution. Because our country is a democracy, there must be a check and balances. The check and balances are DPR. If you think DPR is not worthy, we ask for your advice.

Even though we don't...

Even though we are not helping.

We are not helping.

We are not helping.

If he is like that, the most annoying is people like me. Yes. Who think right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right. Wow, as a mentalist. Wow, I think it's the same as... Maybe it's his branding, why did Timothy Ronald say that? But, isn't there a public speaking education in the DPR?

I talked to Abdi yesterday. The DPR can't be blamed for the speech, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, it's not allowed? There is a law.

There is impunity.

There is. So, it can't be affected. I read the full comment.

That's cool.

There's a partial immunity. Partial impunity?

Cool.

In the DPR and other areas, there's something that can't be covered.

The purpose is,

when he critici prevent the government from doing anything. That's the purpose.

That's the purpose.

Not to be lazy.

That's the purpose. But you're more concerned with dancing.

Yes, compared to Shahroni, Uyakuya, Eko Patria, I'm more into dancing. Rather than those who are bad at talking. I prefer to dance than to be misquoted. For me, it's funny to be misquoted.

If that's the case, I won't be offended.

It's more like motivation to learn math.

If that's the case, I'll laugh. I won't be offended. That's why.

We are all offended in different ways. For me, when Sahroni said something about Tolol, it's normal. But when he talked about my intellectuality, I thought, you guys are all stupid. When it comes to that, they're sure that they're far above us. So they can make sure that we can't do anything.

That's what I think, what people feel.

That's by power, if you say that.

So people are really helpless.

And they...

Have you ever read a study about a rat that got pinched? A pinched rat that finally flied or flied, which is silent? Yes, when it's already in one point, flight or flight, then it stays silent as long as he's not sure he'll die. But if he feels he's going to die, he'll bite back. I think the same way about people.

Or all humans are the same. If he's pressed to a point, he'll say, I'm going to die anyway. Let's just move on. There's no difference. That's why they move.

In my opinion, that's the main reason. But we can't deny that in every amarah, there will be someone who has the potential to... -...to support. -...to support, to support. And in my opinion, the supporters are not only foreigners.

Yes.

The easiest way to get benefits is not foreigners.

Yes, there are many.

Because if I become a foreigner, I don't use this method. I have another better way. I can control the economic instruments. I can control the business instruments. Or even better, I can control the culture. And the next question is, what do we have now?

If this is not a foreign company, what do we have? Yes, everything is foreign. What else is foreign to add? Yes, simply like this. Every day I always order online. Isn't the stock foreign? Then I order the marketplace, it's foreign.

And they determine a lot of things in this country. It means that I have a lot of ways. I don't have to use a demo. So, if it's a demo, the most benefit should not be foreign. Yes, okay. I understand. So, because many people can take advantage of the demo. Whether it's foreign, domestic, internal, etc. But, of course, when a conflict occurs, there is an opportunity to jump in.

Of course. We put a stock. Of course. Who knows, the outcome is something. Who knows, jackpot. Who knows the outcome is something. Who knows the jackpot. That's why we don't want a military emergency.

That's dangerous. We don't want a military emergency. The last military emergency in South Korea. Only 6 hours. Many investors ran away. 6 hours only.

Military emergency is not only... Military emergency ruins the economy. Ter emergency is a huge economic damage.

But if it's a military emergency, are you a civilian or a military?

That's it. That's it. That's why I don't want to. That's why I don't want to. That's why I don't support it.

I think everyone is already educated. I want to share a little, sir. One of the things that makes me happy about the current action is that it's so far from the 1998. I'm a survivor. Me too. I feel it's so far.

Do you have any concerns about that as a survivor of 1998? No. Not at all? Not at all. When there are issues in China, you immediately believe that this will be buried. On August 24, my father asked,

Lik, this is 25, there is a big action. Lik, but do you need to go to Bogor? I said, no need. Because I'm sure all the racist issues are useless since there is social media. I don't know, but for now I'm really sure. Because it's easy to be banned. And you know what's easy, Om?

If someone comes out with a racist issue, we already know, it's clearly a provocateur. But, Ustaz, okay, we're playing now. You said that with social media, the racism issue is excluded. Because when someone wants to start,

there are people who say, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.

Okay.

So, it's saved, right? By social media. Okay, according to Ustadz, our friends on social media, whoever, the Indonesian community on social media already knows and is aware.

More resistant. More resistant. Rather than such provocations.

Okay. And when he said, for example, -"Ganjang Cina". -"Ganjang Cina", and so on.

It's obvious. It's obvious. Okay. Why the prison... Toko-toko. Why the prison... The office.

The office, yesterday, many people supported it on social media.

Well, this means we discuss another one. Yes, on social media. Well, this means we discuss the other one. Yes, in social media. That's because social media supports it. That's dangerous. It's the opposite of what Ustadz said earlier. So, racism is gone.

Because in the old days, people had the truth. Do you know what the truth was when people... Why are they racist? They said, Chinese people are thieves.

We have it, the Chinese are bad people.

The same narrative, used but not for racism.

That's education, Alhamdulillah. For example, in the last 212, my father was so scared. He said, don't follow me, you'll make the Chinese hate you. I said, wrong! I came there to prove that I'm Chinese. It's not that the Chinese are the problem, I'm Chinese too. But we're something else. That's good, because education about racism is now really finished.

In my opinion, about religion, school. It's finished. But this kind of thing is gray, right? For the prison. Right, for the prison. This is interesting, Om.

Ca'nun once told about a speech. So you hate a production because of its production or you hate it because of something physical that is related to that production.

Try it.

For example, like this. You hate the corruption or because it corrupts 270 trillion, for example.

Oh.

Because if you hate it because of 270 trillion, if it's corrupt, it's only 10,000. It's okay, 10,000. There are people who say that.

There are people who say that. There are people who say that.

That's right.

There are. For example, do they hate their actions or their people? For example, Ome. What I think is now being raised is, we can target the rich people.

And the DPR. So, they hate something because they don't have it. So, they don't like it. If they have it, maybe they won't hate the production. I'm sorry, like some rich people outside Indonesia, for example. There are some people who say,

it's okay, you're doing illegal things. Sorry, you're doing this, it's illegal. You're doing this, it's illegal. This is not allowed, it's illegal. Unless the family is doing it. He said, okay, there is a justification for this. So he's not consistent.

What he hates is not the action, but what he hates is the amount of money or the person who did it. This is what we haven't educated the people. The people are still naive in this field. That's why I always say, to remind people, if someone commits a bad deed, it doesn't mean we can be bad to them. If someone commits a sin, it doesn't mean we can be bad to them.

We are still a sin. Because if we think like that, like what Ustad Felix said, when we get in their position, we will be the same as them. Right, the same mentality. In the end, we will be the same officials as them. Oh, I understand. Because if you can imprison the people you consider to be imprisoned, when you have more power, you will be imprisoned too.

Because imprisonment becomes a trait. Right.

And a habit.

And they don't know, rich people and corrupt people have the same logic. Yes, that's right. The same logic. That's the logic. Yes, the logic. Don't have a lot of money.

If it's a little, it's okay. That's right. If it's a little, it's okay. The second one is because I'm already having a hard time until this point. So I can, right? Rather than others enjoying it, it's why I said, the people of Bajingan are the best teachers.

Why are the people of Bajingan the best teachers? So that you know that I don't like to be called that by people.

It should be.

The problem is, not everyone considers it a teacher. But the problem is, as we talked about earlier,

sometimes we have a psychology that we will become the people we hate.

That's why, Om. I remember someone who kept lighting candles. For 20 years of Vietnam War. He kept lighting candles in front of the White House, or in front of the DPR building. And he was asked, what have you been doing for 2 years?

Lighting candles every day. Is it changing the world?

He said.

The person answered, I don't intend to change the world. I do this so that this war doesn't change me. The question is, we face a darkness. Do you know what is the most dangerous thing?

The most dangerous thing is not you being oppressed. Remember that. But the most dangerous thing is when you turn into an oppressor. That's the most dangerous is when you become a perpetrator of oppression. That's the most dangerous. Because we lose ourselves.

And we become the people we hate. Isn't that the real defeat? Then what's the point of fighting if we've already lost?

Okay. Let's play forget. Because many people say that if you don't apologize, you'll be sorry. It's like, you apologize after your house is being demolished.

That's how it is. We as people who change, we have to set an example of how to change in the right way. Not only do we know that this is wrong, but we know how to change it. the right way. Not only we know that this is wrong, but we know how to change it in the right way. And that's the hard part.

Everyone can get angry, Om. Everyone can... If someone hits you, you can hit back. Everyone can.

But for the eye, the world goes blind, right?

That's right. That's what happens. So, how do we do it? We do something, but we end the cycle. I was once asked, does the government agree with the imprisonment? Or for example, rich people who have been imprisoned since the beginning,

we imprison them back. I said, I never agreed with Robin Hood. Not because I agree with their money that is not halal. But the way. Everything is about the way.

What if they are desperate?

Desperate. That's what Joker did. That's why Joker's movie is so good. Joker said, there's no bad guy. There's only a hurt man.

A hurt good man.

So, they're like that because they're desperate.

Desperate, right. Because you're desperate, you have to know that people don't see it as an excuse anymore. Because tomorrow, I want to ask you this. We see 1998. And we know what happened in 1998. And we know that the people who are now in the government,

they have the same face. Does that mean that Indonesia has really changed? With people going up. That means we have seen, the question is back again, do we want to repeat the same thing?

I don't want to.

98, 2025. Suddenly in 2037, they became the people who used to be a demo.

Yes.

The students who used to be a demo have become officials.

So, the cycle has to be broken. Have you ever heard the words of a person who is cheating?

If someone is cheated, if asked, why are you cheating? What's the answer? I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.

I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I want to say like before, you see the wrong person, it doesn't mean you have to answer with regret. It doesn't mean you have to legitimize to make mistakes too. That's the principle. That's what it means to be human.

Yes.

But if you cheat, you just have to shake your head.

Yes.

Why do you cheat?

I'm not cheating, I'm honest.

You're not cheating.

You're wrong.

You're wrong. Don't do it. Don't blame yourself. Don't blame yourself. You don't have to blame people. Don't guess writing. There are people who act like DRT. It's so funny. Do you know what he said? When he acted like DRT, why did he act like DRT?

He forced her to hit him.

Crazy.

How? How did he force her to hit him? Hit him. Because the story he did He did it to make it. That's why it's true.

It's all true.

Back again, Om. That's an unpopular opinion. We're told, Oh, you're a buzzer.

You're a liquid.

Is it said that Ustaz is a buzzer and a liquid?

Some, yes. But the majority is not. Maybe because all this time, I've never been, in quotation marks, I've been teaching, right? At least the resistance is bigger. But is there anyone who says that Ustaz is a bastard and a liquid?

Some. There is? Because it's an unpopular opinion, right?

I still don't understand why it's become an unpopular opinion.

Because people are angry.

Because people are angry.

People are angry, their ears don't want to hear anything. People don't want to hear anything. People don't want to hear advice. But I, as a person who knows what it should be like, I still have to tell. Now I want to ask. I want to ask you. If I was asked, how, Ustaz, can I not go to jail? In order to make people happy, I said, it's okay, it's your right. How, Ustaz?

What do you think, Ustaz? Unfollow. Guru kencing berdiri, murid kencing maraton.

Iya, semuanya akan lebih parah lagi.

Iya, makanya. Berarti aku tidak punya... Berarti anda tidak masalah ketika tidak disukai oleh orang. Terkadang, untuk satu prinsip, aku sudah melatih dari awal ketika aku masuk Islam, ya, kalau ada orang. For example, we've tried to convey it in the best way. People don't want to.

Do you agree that many people now only like FOMO? This is the question I have to ask. We do see some people who have that phenomenon. Maybe it started from fear. At least it's silent. Because now the movement is, if we make a little difference, it's a buzzer, it's from fear. Because now, the movement is...

If we make a little different voice, it's a buzzer. It's like that. Maybe it started from, I just follow the flow. I think I just follow the flow.

But following the flow, sorry, the problem of the ladies wearing pink hijab.

Wait a minute.

From there, he got an engagement. From there, he got an engagement. For example, he got the engagement. From there he got the engagement, for example, he voiced it.

Oh, it's comfortable like this. He realized that what he voiced turned out to make people more stupid. It's the same when we talk about the problem. Do you remember, Om, the people who asked for it? We've talked about it. That was also an unpopular opinion at first.

But try to imagine, if we keep following it, what will Indonesia to Indonesia? Won't we level up Indonesia? So, what we hope for is, when I see, I'm sorry, what triggers me to say that, I said, I have to say it. First, because silence is protecting evil.

That's the first. Your silence is protecting evil. Sometimes people don't like it. But what triggers me is that someone... ...entered someone else's house... ...with a knife. For me, what kind of mental is this that you're trying to show from here?

For me, that's a big no. I mean, I have to say it. I mean, this is very dangerous. There are people who feel that the information they receive is something that is already appropriate. Then it is covered by people, watched by many people.

And it is exposed on social media.

What happens tomorrow? If we move a little, for example, Oh, I took it, because he already took mine. It's been a long time, I have the right to take it. I just need to turn it. It's a Chinese.

It's just a little bit.

Just a little bit.

I can turn it to that. So, it means that if we see it like this, I can't stay still. Because it will set back. We will go back to the beginning. Because the mental... ...sin is addictive.

Sin is addictive.

Yes, sin is addictive. Today is a small sin, tomorrow is a big sin. So when I was asked, do I agree? I agree that every asset that is obtained in a wrong way, it must be taken. But the question is, by whom and how?

That's it. by whom and how? That's all.

By whom and how?

If this country has already approved the ERO of asset abduction, then the reverse proof rule, for example, for people like this, then I'm the first person to laugh when there are corruptors, take all the assets. Because why should there be an ERO of asset abduction, for example? Because there are people who are corrupt, for example, 100 trillion,

the debt is only 10 billion. misesat misalnya. Karena ada orang yang korupsi misesat 100 triliun, dendanya cuma 10 miliar. Gimana ceritanya?

Itu mah di penjara, raja itu.

Iya lah.

Iya itu. Di penjara.

Itu manya waktu di penjara, modal. Itu modal. Masih cuan kan? Masih cuan. Masih cuan. Tinggal nunggu keluar. Everything is tied to the procedure. We can't do it for the greater good. I don't agree with people who give justification, not a pretext for everything. Because it will be used in many things. For example, corruption is okay as long as you're honest.

It's okay if you're evil as long as you're honest. What kind of world is this? What kind of world do we leaving our children in if everyone is like this? It's okay. It's okay to learn religion.

It's okay to learn law. It's okay to learn about society.

That's it.

It's okay to be a corrupt person as long as you build a mosque.

That's right. And now it's common among teenagers. I'm not saying that you're not young. It's okay to be rude. As long as you're honest. Seriously. I'm a hypocrite. The important thing is I'm honest. I'm not a hypocrite. Like the others who are hypocrites.

But they become adults. People become like,

it's okay to be a hypocrite. As long as you're honest.

At that point, being honest is not being honest and being a liar. Being a liar is still wrong, being honest is still right. Isn't it better when he's being honest, he's shy and doesn't talk? There's a difference between being honest and throwing water.

People can't tell the difference.

That's him.

That's right.

I mean, isn't it better like that? That's why people make new definitions now. Justifying. So everyone tries to make themselves look more right. So that whatever they do, they don't feel guilty. Oh, that's what it means?

My question is, what's the difference between you and a corruptor? Because a corruptor also says the same thing. A corruptor says the same thing. So, do you know what the most basic corruption in Islam is? What? It's okay to commit adultery, as long as you don't eat pork. There are so many people like that. It's okay to be corrupt, as long as you don't eat pork.

Choose your sins.

It's okay, choose your sins.

Anyway, it seems like the sin is just eating pork.

Because eating pork is visible. Yes, you already know the name of the restaurant, Gojek.

Just the name. You're not ashamed of it. Even if you go to a restaurant, you can't. That's how it is now. That's why we say, actually, for me, it's not about how much money is being corrupted. It's smaller than mental damage. Seriously. It doesn't mean I don't have a problem with corruption.

No. Corruption is a big problem for me. But they have to know that corruption is not a cause. But it is a result of the mentality. Now, the mentality of Indonesian people should not be brought there. How?

Education. There is no other way. Honestly's it. Nothing else. Honestly, I was sad yesterday. Even though I apologized to him. But there was a minister who said, if you want to be a teacher, you have to find blessings, not money.

Yes, that's right.

Find the blessings. If you want to earn money, just be a trader. Wow, that's it. I was really angry. As an educator, how do you feel? I compare and learn a lot of education in many other countries. And I'm very familiar with Vietnam.

Vietnam's current score, the general knowledge score, reading, math, and general knowledge, students, their school children, it's already three big countries, including USA. Vietnam is close to us, but we are still in Southeast Asia. Are we still at war with the US?

Yes.

And the way they do it, it's very basic. The teacher, if he teaches at the border,

the further he teaches from the city, the higher his salary. This is the story of Ustaz Hekoe. Do you remember when I was on your podcast? I said something unpopular in my opinion. Why do people go to the gym? I don't care, I want to be healthy.

I don't care, I want to be healthy.

People who go to the gym want to change their body. It's a luxury. Because in my opinion, the first entry is luxury. Yes, people who go to the gym can't just change their body. It's healthy. But that's how I feel.

It's impossible. If I have a kid, and he's in school, I'll ask him, -"What do you want?" He'll say, -"Just be like this." -"The important thing is you're devoted to the country." I'm So, I realized that it's a mess.

It's a propaganda of heroes without a badge.

It's getting worse.

Heroes without badges.

Wow, it's sad.

I think that's a mental problem. So, in the end, we have to educate. The question is, what kind of education? We just saw it. We said that the transfer of knowledge is wrong. The real one is like in Vietnam.

The transfer of knowledge. The teacher is paid attention. There is a teacher of the month. In Vietnam, there is an awarding. The best teacher. So, in Vietnam, there is a curriculum.

But the teacher has a free method of teaching. The important thing is to reach the student. Later, every year there is an award for the best teacher nationally.

Nationally?

That's why we want to invite him to Pakabowo. Nationally. Well, the teachers are competing to give the best method. In fact, they are competitive with each other.

By text message?

No, that's not it. That's not it. The winner is the local. The winner is the local. There's a female teacher, she won 2-3 times in a row. She was asked by a reporter, what's the secret to winning all the time?

She answered, it's a secret, if I tell you, you can be a different teacher. That's my secret method. But from there, they became serious. Competitive. Competitive. So, it's not positive. Whereas here, there's a teacher who still lives in the toilet. One of the criticisms was that Mr. Prabowo gave a sign of service.

There are people who say, why do you give people this? Now, try to give it to a teacher. No one protests the Indonesians. And I support it. I mean, Mr. Prabowo calls them teachers who are precise.

It's hard.

That's right.

That's why the term is already...

Even though it's given a license.

Yes, it can't.

Yes.

Just realized.

Yes, but it's like teaching us to have children. So you can ask. So that later it's okay.

We are already trapped in that term. We are already trapped in that term. We can imagine, if every month there's a teacher of the month. If not, the kids will be asked, what do you want to be? The answer is no longer a YouTuber. Teacher, teacher must be one of the main options. Especially a YouTuber teacher.

Like you, right?

Yes, that's right. Actually, there are a lot of people who are financially capable, and they want to go to high school. My wife is going to high school again. She wants to be a teacher.

Seriously?

Yes.

Why?

She wants to be a teacher. And now she's... Oh, this is a sad story. So, she's taking care of his children. So many of them.

Oh, he has a foster child.

He has a foster child. And he has a child with a defibrillator. And so on. Until yesterday, I've mentioned it before. Yesterday, there was a time when he sold his Malde bags for a fee. For a fee. I asked him, -"Your life phase is changing." -"Oh, really?"

-"I asked him, what's your life phase?" -"This is the result of your father."

-"No, I have a bad influence."

-"Oh, he said it's from private education."

-"He said it's really changing." -"Yes, he said so."

-"Oh, you're over 50 years old?" -"No, I'm a wife." -"Oh, 50 and above? No, my wife. Your wife? Yes. 50, right? Not yet? Oh, 40. 40, right?

No, not yet.

30?

That means you're too wise. Too wise. Because usually 40. 40.

Too wise.

Yes, that's right.

Like me.

Oh, you're just wise, 40? Too wise. Oh, you just started there in 40? I just started there. 30 is still radical, right? Still number 2.

But the point is, he wanted to teach, to be a lecturer and so on. And I asked him why he wanted to be a lecturer and so on. Because he said, I think I'm financially capable to help teach.

But that's dangerous. Why? If I want to be a teacher, only people who are financially capable.

When people become teachers, they should be financially capable in their profession. Why should only people who are financially capable have the desire to teach by themselves?

That's dangerous.

Actually, in my opinion, because only people who have the will can share.

Yes, I agree. because only people who have a conscience can share.

Yes, I agree, Sat. But there are also many honorary teachers who are paid low, but they still want to teach. But in the end, they can't focus. Why? Because the honorary teacher's salary is not enough. In the end, he has to have other jobs. Even that is cut off.

Yes, right. Oh my God. Maybe if he has enough time, he can spend it on other things. Making more interesting methods that can improve the students' skills. But in the end, I have to teach, and I have to earn money to meet my needs.

You know, we don't need to say that the police are good or bad. We don't need to say that the police are just...

Everywhere. There are just Oknum. Everywhere. There are many Ustaz.

But there is. Have you ever heard of a police report

that the police working as a bandit?

Yes, I saw it.

There is.

Oh, so he's a bandit?

A year-old bandit.

A year-old bandit. To find more money. There is, right?

That's right? There's more, right?

There's more, right?

I'm looking for money

You're laughing because there's too much What?

That's not... That's not a bandit

Don't be a bandit Maybe the patient is entertaining The profession is police We don't know It's getting more scary here I'm but the difference between police and clown is so far how far? so far is... P is police from P

clown from P

but it's the same as hiring clown hire people with...

clown hire people with kids

where are the kids from?

police hire people

you want to be a clown, think first clown is okay the police is better. You're good at cleaning. So, back to the character. It's the influence of education. That's why, the first time in Islam,

the most senior is taught by the most junior. Not all of them should be like that. True. But now it doesn't happen.

What about now?

Now, the one who teaches the youngest, should teach the youngest too.

Oh, I see.

So, the one who should teach the youngest, should teach the youngest. So that they know. From an early age, they are already exposed to the best. And I once said, I think it's also about The Cosby Show. How The Cosby Show increases the education tariff for people with black skin in America. That's very important in my opinion in Indonesia.

So, how to see that the teacher is cool. Because now the teacher is not cool, to be honest. How can our education work? That's when we talk about transfer of knowledge, not the transfer of character. And the second, as a teacher, I feel that I'm not at my best. The task of the teacher is the task of the teachers. At least, if we look at it, Indonesia has developed a lot,

but it's not like the ideal. Maybe we can hope for leaders or better officials.

Better officials.

Sir, you know what?

The worst heartache in the education world.

Damn.

It's so personal.

Oh, you mean?

No, not you, Dad. No, not me. That was during the pandemic, Sir.

During the pandemic.

During the pandemic, I was in TVRI. So, they learned at home. Because the pandemic, all schools were on vacation. So, on TVRI, they asked for content from educational creators. So, from Sipulon Sekolah, from Kobisa, from Inspiratestory, for example. They asked for it, and it was broadcasted on TVRI.

Sorry, did they ask for it for free or paid?

Free. They asked for it.

It was broadcasted on TVRI. Sorry, is it free to ask for it or pay for it? It's free. You ask for it.

You ask for it. It was broadcast on TVRI. Later, Indonesian schoolchildren will be trained on the topic from there.

Okay.

That's good. That's good, right? Then, they said, but there's no money for it. It's okay, we'll just contribute to the country. Yes, okay. I read an article a few weeks ago. Ministry of Education and Culture paid billions for a TVRI broadcast slot.

Seriously?

I swear.

Seriously, that's what happened?

That's what happened.

You're making me nervous.

I suddenly remembered.

Seriously, that's what happened? Seriously, sir. And I had a dialogue with YouTube last year. I was invited, there were some officials too. I told about the report.

This is true, don't always... It's true, I have the video.

Then I finally talked to those people. I once... I hold this story because I want to tell it directly for the first time in front of the officials. I said that. It's a long story. What's the answer? It's not our ministry, right?

I almost cried. You were gathered in the content creator case, right? Content creator. And they are actually an event for what can be synergized between the government and the content creator so that we can provide better education.

Don't be me wrong, this chair was once sat by the Minister of Education. Yeah, that's even more popular now.

That's it, Om. From there...

But who's playing? Who's playing? The Minister of Education or...

I don't know.

I just found that article.

Who's playing, in your opinion?

I don't know. When I read it, I was like this. Why is there a money slot for the TVRI? The one who fills in the program is not given. If no one fills in the program, the schoolchild only watches Colorbar for two hours. If not, it's a waste.

And that's in the position of all of us as content creators are dropping because of the pandemic. Really need money, and then we're offered that.

Why didn't you speak up?

Because I felt I was still too small at that time. I wouldn't be heard. And that's why, if I was small, I would speak up.

Have you ever spoken or speak up?

I spoke up in front of the office earlier. It was recorded, and then I uploaded it.

And?

The response was just like that. You have to upload it. And it's just a crowd. And it's just a crowd. It's just like that. But there's no... If you come and say, this is not right. There's no such thing.

If there's no such thing, it's just blind. Until now, there's no such thing. It was the end of December, the event I'm not a Buddha. I'm not a Buddha. I'm not a Buddha. I'm not a Buddha.

I'm not a Buddha.

I'm not a Buddha.

I'm not that chair.

The chair is here. The chair is pointed.

Yes, be careful for the chair there. The events are all here.

Yes.

The events are here.

Yes, intel bro.

The clarification. But I think it's really important if we go back there. So I think our responsibility now is more important is not just to control people who demand rights or fight against the same-sex marriage. I personally from day one, I've said that same-sex marriage should be fought. And we pray for everyone to be safe on the road. So that people can be good in voicing their opinions. But please, don't be like that.

That's why I said the best teacher is the one who is a bad person. Please don't be like that.

If we're going to say one word, let's go back to the beginning. Don't let us become the people we hate.

That's right. And it's hard. It's hard. Because we hard. It's hard. Because sometimes we don't realize it. For example, I was hit by someone. When I was hit by someone, I asked, why was I hit? He said, China.

What are you doing?

Out of nowhere.

Was that true?

It's true.

You told this story many times, right?

And not at all. Is that true? Yes! You told me this story many times, right? Not only once, but many times. Oh, the location? Palembang, for sure. On the bridge, once...

How did you get hit?

I was hit. While walking? Why did you get hit? China, of course. Even though when I posted, people said, No, Palembang is not like that now.

Yes, but I experienced it. When was this, Tad? When I was in junior high school.

Still in junior high school.

I walked and got hit, because of China. It means that the behavior made me want to do the same thing.

To China too?

Maybe. I hit him, and he said, -"Ngaca!" -"Bapak ngaca!" If that's the case, he doesn't want to be the person he hates. He's a bit crazy. He's not a good guy. I want to do that as a form of domination to people. When you're shouted at, for example. So, the first time, the first time I want to set people up,

I'll do it with shouting too. And that's... It's so hard for my kids, seriously. The first thing when my kids are being naughty is that they are the best to me all the behaviors I've received.

From the parents?

From the parents. That's my reference. That's the temptation, it's so strong. It means, as a person who accepts injustice, we have the duty to not do the same thing. Don't we know,

I'm sorry, cases like violence in a house. If I'm not mistaken, the investigation is one in three. One victim times three.

One victim times three.

He will reduce it to three again.

Three again. So if one person is affected by KDRT, either the child becomes the same thing, or the colleague becomes the same thing. Because it will decrease, if I'm not mistaken, the research. In short, every person who is known as a victim will potentially tend to become a criminal.

In the long run, everyone will.

Yes, that's right.

The system is downline, right?

Yes, downline.

That's why we say we are the decider than the toxic chain. That's the important thing. Because remember, the bad guy Bajingan people make us like that, but we can decide to make him the best teacher.

But, does he have animal instinct?

Yes, he has until now. I hold my hand when I want to teach my son.

It means you should be conscious.

Yes, we have to train our consciousness. I mean, we don't like to be hit. I've felt hit. When my son is naughty, I tend to play with my hands. I want to hit or scream and everything.

Because that's the only thing you know.

Yes. Sometimes, I talk to my wife. When she's talking about something, I don't like it anymore. I'm in a bad mood. I can blame my wife. But at one point, humiliation.

When I know that, I think, I'm crazy, I'm like the person I hate. Because we keep repeating this. I mean, we're like, why do I sound like the person I hate? Or the person I don't like?

Because it's like a meatball. So, I finally apologize. Because we know we were overreacting. But, Ustaz, he didn't care. He could do anything.

But, I was like that too.

Sometimes, when I did something, I was emotional or something, I was like, why did I become someone I don't like?

We realized it there. I spoke the same way, the same way. Sometimes, when there a character like that, and he starts to be sad, we feel sorry for him. Why? Because we know where the reference comes from.

So, if you talk like that, you shouldn't be a suspect.

I agree. Suspect is not that you shouldn't, but you should be a suspect for your introduction. You should be a suspect. A-knowledge. Ospek that is not too much. I know there are some methods to shape people's mentality. But it's measured. We are not measured, we are measured by emotions.

It's not measured. But it's also in the lower part.

It's different from the measured. For example, I want to do this, I know the end is here, I stop here. And it's measured. For example, I can talk to my son, I don't like this, if you do this again,

can Abi get angry? Yes. So, I'm really angry. To show that I don't like it. Not because it's uncontrollable. But it's controlled.

We really want to get angry. I want to show that you don't like it. Not being insulted by Amarah.

Not being insulted by Amarah.

This is back to the prison. Back again. That's the difference between prison which is fought by the unrighteous and the state's violation. Because in the Islamic era, this also happened. When Umar said this.

Umar was facing a reverse proof process. Hey, you're an official, I already know how much you owe. Where did you get your house from? Oh, wait, I can't prove it, I'll bring the evidence later. Until you can bring the evidence, the house is taken. Simple.

He can already bring evidence, the house is returned. Or other assets, which can be immediately confiscated. assets, and the ones that are stolen are the government. And the government knows how to share it with people. But that's in the government of the time of the great Prophet Muhammad, right? Well, for example, let's take our government. There must be a reason.

If we wait like that, it won't happen. Because our government can't be expected, for example. At that point, I was silent. Because I was also confused. Because the one who is in charge of the asset theft is the DPR. And the DPR has a conflict of interest in that. Ask the head first.

How is the story?

Call first.

Call first. And this is a headache. Moreover, the one yesterday, if the police didn't process it. There were some injuries at Mr. Saroni's house. We didn't discuss the other things. We only discussed the visible ones.

Not the ones that fell. We can...

They said it was a hoax.

Yes, a lot of them fell. There was an Iron Man's head, for example. There was an Iron Man's leg. And then there was a watch. People said, wow, Jackpot, this is a mess. Right?

It feels unfair, right? It means, if I joined yesterday...

Maybe it could be him.

Tomorrow, if I have a new target, I will look for the stuff, I already know. We're training criminals.

Yes.

This is a problem. People will feel jealous. Why didn't I take that earlier? Why did I take the doll? And when Boca was approached, the time was taken.

The doll.

When the time was taken, they were like, if it were me, I wouldn't post it. That's why. This must be because of Boca. The criminal is playing.

The criminal is is back. The criminal mind is trained. And again, I never blame the people. They are the result of what I understand now. But I can't let this go either. Because my job is as a teacher. Because if I let it go, I'm a devil.

Someone once asked, which is more dangerous, a devil or a devil who speaks? Because people keep their mouths shut, like a devil who speaks. Is it better for a devil to speak or a devil to speak?

Don't choose.

Both are devils.

So, okay.

So, now it's already happened.

Hopefully, it will get better now.

Hopefully, the demand for agriculture will be better. Hopefully, the demand for is what's happened. Hopefully, things will get better. Hopefully, the DPR will be in charge. Asset theft, we have to take care of it. There are many loopholes.

It's not as easy as that. There are many loopholes in asset theft. So, we have to take care of asset theft. Don't let the loopholes. Right? So, Ustaz, maybe you two, first, how should we act after this incident?

The people first.

Okay.

I was asked who is the most responsible for this incident. So, it's each of us. So, the leader should feel that this is his responsibility. Mr. Prabowo must feel that this is his full responsibility as the head of the country, because people will definitely depend on him. It means that if you ask, who is the highest in Indonesia?

People will definitely answer, Mr. Prabowo. There is no one else. So, he must be responsible. And the community have to be righteous. Because we have a character that still needs to be upgraded. Still needs to be reformed. And the individual has to start from themselves. Because they have to know that they are the ones who allow all of this to happen.

So the people have to be righteous. And every individual has to be righteous too. Because they are the ones who allow all of this to happen.

This takes time.

Correct. That's a long time. A long time. I mean, the special team. The independent team for that. Doing the check and balances properly. And all that. It can be done now, right? As a government.

I think all the people will be happy. Then, public speaking practice with Deddy Corbuzier.

Agree.

Please.

Agree.

Please.

That. Public speaking practice. Please.

Public speaking practice with Deddy Corbusier after I became a priest. Well... Because before I became a priest, I was a student. That's the problem with MDJ, I haven't become a priest yet.

That's very important. That's very important for public speaking practice. But at least Omnid can teach you do and don'ts clearly. I've experienced this do and don'ts.

I've experienced it.

I know him. As a survivor, I can do it. And maybe do some bodybuilding.

But actually, when I see 17.8, I want to add one more. What is it?

A teacher.

We've discussed about the teacher.

Don't you want to add a teacher?

I want to. But more like... Give me my rights when I'm on TVRI.

I think you're just one of them, Ben.

No, I also feel why it can be like this. Because the special DPR, the officials in general, the special DPR, they don't have a punishment that we can see routinely if they make mistakes or anything, right? Yes, again. Right? There is a region, one city in Italy,

they have a tradition.

What is it?

Every, I forget, every month or every week, the most blunder politician, put in a bucket, pour it into the river,

dip it.

Good, good.

That's it, boss.

No, no, no people feel it too. Ah, you're the blunder of the month, don't do that again. Then he also has a desire to, don't let me blunder, don't let me blunder. Because in my opinion, one of the reasons why the DPRK can release a statement like this, because there is no bloodshot effect. The short-term effect is like before, like once a month, once a week, like that. It's not bad, right?

Chili wungs are black.

If it's chili wungs, it's dead.

It's poisoned.

We make a lake, if not.

We just watch it, so there's a direct punishment. Humiliation. Yes, the social sanctions still feel like that. This is still there. But this is a real event. But it's too bad. It's a threat to the country.

It's uncontrollable.

Because it's uncontrollable.

I see.

After talking, I'm getting more and more confused. I always take wisdom from an event. Every event shows that, no matter how far I've how far Indonesia has learned. In this point, I'm grateful that Indonesia is far from racism. It can't be provoked by racism. People in the netizens are always being banked for things that they doubt.

It means it's harder for provocateurs to act now. That makes me happy. And people are already aware and all kinds of creative ways. Like One Piece, the creative way of protest, I think. That's creative and not at all damaging. And as in Indonesia, it's funny.

Well, the only thing that hasn't, I think like this. The good thing is, in Islam, we are never obligated to the goal. What we are obligated to is to be loyal to the process.

The process.

Yes. If we are on the right path, we don't have to reach the goal. It's okay. It's not mandatory to reach the goal. Because if we are loyal to the process, and then we die, it's a success. And the goal can be continued by others. Okay, last one, Ustad.

If you say that, how far is our country's process?

Still far, Om.

You've given us motivation.

It's already positive, it's already rising.

Ah, this is it.

For the closing, it's good. Yeah, for the closing, it's good. Turn it back to the middle.

Throw it back to him. Closing is good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. if I'm in Arab. I will be less useful if I was born in Europe. So, Indonesia is the best place for me. Because Allah is one of the parts that I believe in. Allah is very precise.

He puts people in the right place at the right time. To do the right thing.

I'm sure. Okay.

Many people say that this incident was also God's doing. Oh, of course. It could be. It could be. To teach us. Because, as they say, Allah doesn't teach us

how to take the burden, but rather, He gives us a heavier burden. Because, remember what Ibnu Khaldun said, the theory is, bad times produce the best generation. And the best generation produces the good times. And in the good times, the weak generation is born.

And the weak generation produces the broken generation. We have agreed that this is a broken era. We don't know if we are the best generation or not. We just have a chance.

We just have to see if there is hope.

And if there is hope, who knows, maybe we will be paid for it.

Amen!

Amen! Actually, it's okay if we are not paid. But at least explain why at that time, we didn't have a budget at that time. At least that. Just explain it first. If it's money, then it's fine.

But if there's money, it's okay.

That's a lot of money.

That's a lot of money. Instead of being a 150 million basher.

Right.

We haven't discussed that yet.

We haven't discussed that yet.

I also... But maybe we'll discuss that sometime. Because I think the war is now in two layers. Yes, layers. That's why. Not just framing now.

So there are people who, in my opinion, send it on purpose. So that people are divided.

I personally don't believe in that.

Right. Because if I'm a bad person, the first thing I do is to destroy everyone on social media. And it works.

And I don't believe that it's true from the government.

Because it works, it destroys everything. So everyone who wants to speak up, whatever it is, it's a buzzer.

Yes. Because... But I think we can discuss it later.

Yes, the hope for now is that we have 17 plus 8 and everything, it's already accepted. Right. Hopefully there will be a change. But the deadline is tight. At least there is a good gesture. It's impossible to fulfill all the deadlines. At least there is a good gesture, like showing this, we've talked about this, we've talked about this.

At least to reduce the emotion that is getting higher. Right.

That's it.

Can I go to your place sometime? Come on.

To my channel, please.

Don't do this channel first. His channel will be recorded in my channel. The shooting is the same, right? Seriously? If I make a podcast, will you borrow it? Neighbor.

Oh, neighbor. Oh, yeah, neighbor. No, you don't have to be in his place, right?

No, if I make a podcast.

But his channel. Oh, podcast but his channel?

Yes.

Do you have it?

I can have it. if I was asked we are like that because it's not clear which channel it's not clear

the studio is different, right? it's the same

at that time we were shooting

there was a place for wife and family

there is if you want to move there, you can but he has his own house when he came, the setting was here the lights are different. The lights were different.

The pipes were different.

The pipes were different.

The sofa was different.

So, the sofa was different.

Inside, there was a different place to sit. The one in front was the sofa. That's why they played with us. There were many things. We'll wait for it later.

Okay. Anytime, if Ustadz, I think I... I mean, sometimes it's like this. Sometimes, in my place, it's hard for me to talk.

Yeah, yeah. In his place, it's okay. Maybe in TVRI, the show will be there. I mean, the one that got the ITE is the one that spreads it, right? Yeah, right.

Wow!

I thought you...

The meaning is really big.

I thought you...

Ustadz, thank you. I'm always happy when you come here. I mean, I'm not happy because every time I come here, there's always a problem, a question. But actually, Ustaz, for me, it's enlightening. I mean, I need a lot of people like Ustaz who already know, this is unpopular, it will be attacked too.

But he's been attacked since the old days. that is unpopular and will be attacked. But Radikal Nomor 2 was attacked long time ago.

I'm used to it.

You're used to it.

Where did you look for it?

I looked for it. I've raised the flag myself.

Adrenaline rush.

You also joined the flag of One Piece yesterday.

Yes, I'm a recorder.

You were stopped yesterday.

Half an hour. Just half an hour on the road. Immediately stopped.

Thank you.

See you. We'll wait for the next episode. Let's close this.

5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

And close the door.