¡FGR VA POR TODOS! Abogados PROTEGEN a Maru Campos, también van por Rocha

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Okay.In an amplification of the testimonies in the case of the prosecution, there are two different cases.In the case of Chihuahua, it is for this investigation of how the CIA agents entered an operation that also did not have to have organized the general prosecution of the state.And in the case of Sinaloa, it is for this request from the United States for a provisional arrest linked to the Sinaloa cartel, linked to organized crime.So the prosecution issues a citation and we found out first about the quote of the governor, María Eugenia Campos.First we found out about that, before the whole wave of tweets, and even about the information that came from the Attorney General of the Republic.

Upload a video to social media where you can clearly see the governor of Chihuahua with her advisors, including Gil Swart.For several years, she will have, if I remember correctly, 3 or 4 years, we reported, that different Calderonistas were part of the group of advisors of the governor of the state of Chihuahua.One of them, Roberto Gilsuart, who denied it for many years until Saturday.Until Saturday.Saturday is the first time that Gilsuart goes out publicly with the governor when he had been working for a long time as an advisor.Okay.

Ernesto Cordero, of the government of Mario Eugenia Campos.The only one missing in that picture is Ernesto Cordero, the one who cleanses the sins of the National Action Party.So, we have these Calderonistas, who are obviously already supporting the governor, they have always done so.The National Action Party also comes out and reacts to defend its governor, and they did that, above all, in a criticism made by Ciro Gómez Leiva, because Ciro tells Mario Eugenia Campos herself that he feels that the bread has left her very alone.And that the action party has not supported it so much, that the leadership has not supported it so much.

And López Doriga said the same thing.

López Doriga, I think so, said the same thing.In this media tour, it cost, if I'm not mistaken, 25 million pesos.It was reported.25 million pesos and confirm that figure for me.Because I don't remember, I think it was 25.As long as we don't add one more zero, imagine that I don't doubt it.

I think it was just 25.

25 and I leave it on standby to confirm the figure right now.But in this media tour last week, in which the governor herself ended her grave because no one helped her, she did it alone.In that media tour, the governor herself says that the National Action Party not only supports her, but that in these days we were going to know more about them.It gives me the impression, and I have to say it, that the governor herself knew that she was coming to the prosecutor's office.It gives me that impression, that's my opinion.The problem is that what she ends up saying, especially in the interview with López Doriga, entangles her.

more and puts her in a more complex situation in the face of this citatory that the Attorney General of the Republic already does.But that is only my opinion.

Let's see if it is one more zero.

It's 2 ,500 million.

No, 203 million.

203 million, correct.

According to Sona Free.

According to the media, Sona Free, the media tour of Governor María Eugenia Campos, where she herself gets entangled, Costó 203 millones de pesos.

Aguántame el corte, ahí dicen.Decía Nino Canón, espérame.

Aguántame el corte, decía Nino Canón.203 millones de pesos.

Espérame tantito.

Nada más, nada más por salir a decir lo que dijo.Miren, ahorita lo que me da es ese corte.Vamos a ver cómo citaron a la gobernadora del estado de Chihuahua, María Eugenia Campos.

Good afternoon, how are you?

I'm Joel Cruz, General Attorney.

Nice to meet you.Who, sorry?

Joel Cruz.

Nice to meet you.

Roberto Chaparro.

Roberto Chaparro, welcome.At your service.

Welcome to the State of Chihuahua.

Excuse me?

Welcome to the State of Chihuahua.

Ah, you're from outside?Yes.You're not from here, from the delegation?

No, thank you.

Welcome.

We have an office of notification.

Yes.

We're part of the Public Ministry.

Investigation.and litigation.know you are doing your job.You are doing your job.It is clear to me.

It is a petition to appear before the Attorney General of the Republic.

The next May 27, the Governor of Chihuahua State will have to appear before the Attorney General of the Republic.

This is the petition made by the Attorney General of the Republic.It has a constitutional forum.and even though it has a constitutional forum, there is a citatory.

So I'm going to have to be in the Attorney General of the Republic appearing, even though I, a servant, have a constitutional forum, with Ruben Rocha, I haven't been asked to appear, right?To the Attorney General of the Republic, or to any other governor of this country.

Next Wednesday, May 27, at 10 o 'clock.

Well, there we will be, because I have always given my face, and there we will be.

We will receive it.

And look, we meet here on Saturday.Again, I know you are doing your job, and I thank you, but I am very sorry that you have been used to damage the state of Chihuahua.

General, but there are others as well.

Now, what the governor didn't know, what the governor of Margen y Acampos didn't know, is that they had already cited Ruben Rocha Moya, and this is what the Attorney General of the Republic said.With regard to the investigations derived from recent news and facts, the General Prosecutor's Office carries out relevant actions as part of the respective investigation plans in two cases that are of public interest.In the framework of the proceedings related to the open indictment on the grounds of the accusation presented before the South District Court, of New York, in the United States of America, related to 10 Mexican citizens in the state of Sinaloa, including the licensed governor, public opinion is being made known, that among other actions, these people are being cited to give an interview at the headquarters of the Federal Public Ministry with the purpose of advancing with seriousness and exhaustiveness.On the other hand, In what is referred to as the inquiry in progress in the state of Chihuahua, in addition to the activities already carried out and given to know, they are being cited to appear as witnesses, the constitutional governor of the state and the ex -fiscal general of decent justice, in order to have the ministerial interview covered, to the clarification of the facts that were investigated, the above derived from the chain of command of the public servants who carried out the operation in the Sierra del Pinal, Chihuahua, on April 17 and 18 last.In both cases, it acts in accordance with the corresponding constitutional and legal attributions, as well as in full subjection to the due process.The Attorney General of the Republic refers to its commitment to justice, truth and the fight against impunity, so it will continue to communicate in a transparent y oportuna sobre los avances.

foreign foreign Roberto Gil Suar, y porque la voy a poner brevemente, porque él es, insisto, ha sido asesor desde hace muchos años de la gobernadora María Eugenia Campos, lo negó hasta este momento, que acepta que no solamente es, ni siquiera dice que es asesor, sino que es su abogado defensor, y hace algunos señalamientos sobre algunas irregularidades en el citatorio que le hace la Fiscalía General de la República a la propia gobernadora María Eugenia Campos.Vamos a escuchar brevemente esto.

does not ask any specific question or request any information.He just calls to appear in a personal way.On Wednesday at 10 in the morning in Ciudad Juárez.That citatory will be answered and she will go to answer that citatory in the terms in which it was formulated.She says, you come to explain facts to me that no one knows.we are going to appear to give an answer to that citation.

But also, Ciro, I must say that we are going to present in the next few hours a criminal complaint based on Article 225, Section 19 of the Federal Criminal Code.As I was telling you a moment ago, the citation invokes elements that could equate it to the accused.because while they are cited as witnesses, legal grounds are invoked that only apply to the innocent.This implies that the Public Prosecutor's Office has opened a criminal proceeding against a public servant.con fuero, sin habersele retirado este previamente.Ese es un delito.

of federal nature, of federal order.In the next few hours, we will present this criminal complaint, because a public ministry with a minimum degree of professionalism knows perfectly well that it cannot cite or compare a governor of the state as a witness or as a defendant.and that this implies calling it a criminal proceeding outside of the constitutional procedure that requires a prior validation of the pertinence of criminal prosecution, the famous Procedure of Procedure in its two moments, Chamber of Deputies and local Congress.That is a crime.Because that citatory, Ciro, is not founded on good faith.It has a very clear intention of generating a trap.

come as a witness, but in here I can consider you guilty.And I don't speculate, I just derive it, I dismiss it, from the very fact that the citation invokes in at least three moments rights related to the innocent.So that is the reason why we are going to answer not only that citation, which does not ask anything, una acción adicional que es presentar esta denuncia.Quien haya dado la orden de ya abrir un procedimiento penal sin declaración de procedencia tiene que ser investigado y tiene que pagar las consecuencias.Esa se presentará la denuncia.

Gilles Soares.

Well, yes, Memme, thank you very much.As always, it is a pleasure to greet you.We have finally made the Cruz Azul win the tenth.Obviously, I had the opportunity to be there with the youngest of my children, who is also going to the Cruz Azul, and the truth is that we are very happy.But we are also surprised with the accumulation of news that we are here.

César, just this part.Roberto Gil Suarte says, and I want to start to give continuity to this, is foreign foreign Yeah, that's pretty normal, no?

of the son, who is now the head of the office, Javier Coelho Suarte.And what is the way they have worked?You have to remember that, well, he has been a lawyer of characters like Francisco Javier Cabeza de Vaca.He knows how it can be carried out.And even against Cabeza de Vaca, there was never a detention.If he was sent to appear, he was not presented.

So he knows that they could not change the legal situation if it did not exist.foreign foreign But what they did was copy and paste most of the quotes that are sent to anyone who is required to make a statement.And it seems to me that if there are some articles that are invoking that it is for the impeached.In this case, as a witness, and you have to understand something, various research folders are started.Within these research folders, it has to do with the facts of that CIA agents were operating in national territory without knowledge of the federal authorities and presumably by hand or in coordination with the Chihuahua government.It should be remembered that last week Maria Eugenia Campos went to various media outlets and in an interview with Joaquin López Doriga to Pregunta Expressa, which is done by the journalist, she points out that she did know that there were foreign agents foreign foreign

No.Later, she gets upset and says that they are covering her up.Joaquín López -Dóriga tries to make a joke about who was in Pallero III.But she, in a public, notorious fact, that we had knowledge, most of the citizens, and that it was news at the national and international level, publicly recognized that she did have knowledge that there were foreign agents working in national territory.Because that's how she answers the express question.It seems to me that the Attorney General of the Republic, of course, What happens in this case?

foreign foreign No, uh, my Eugenia campus, but for supposed to get up.See, let's tell him, yeah, I know.Well, he's a lot to do that.They missed out on that.Well, I don't know that.I don't know that.

I don't know that.I don't know that.foreign foreignforeign foreign foreign for the experience that you already have with Cabeza de Vaca and some other clients that Roberto Gil has had.It has to do with the sense that he is a governor.You declared this in front of a media outlet where you openly recognized that you did know that there were foreign agents working in national territory without the authorization of the Mexican government and that, in addition to illegally, they have been violating the national security law and the political constitution of the United States, as well as the federal penal code.

El sabe que entonces ahí sí podría proceder que de acuerdo a la declaración que ella rinda o incluso con el simple hecho de presentarse porque le dan ese famoso derecho de audiencia y ella reservarse, desde ahí ella ya rindió la declaración en el sentido de que se reservaba.Y entonces sí podrían solicitar la declaración de procedencia.tanto en la Cámara de Diputados Federal, así como en el Congreso del Estado.Hay que recordar que ellos mismos lo han señalado, que ellos tienen la mayoría en el Congreso del Estado, y por lo mismo no podría proceder porque ya tiene el fuero que le da la Constitución Federal, pero además el que le da la Constitución del Estado de Chihuahua.Entonces, me parece que es parte de toda esta narrativa política, ¿no?, donde no se quiere reconocer que son dos hechos completamente independientes, ¿no?

foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign in Mexico.Por supuesto que parecería que se está politizando ambos temas, pero la realidad es que en el caso de Rocha Moya le están imputando delitos que tienen que ver con un crimen organizado y de una coalición de un candidato posteriormente gobernador con líderes criminales, pero que a su vez también viene politizado porque en noviembre vamos a tener los Estados Unidos elecciones, It would seem that one of the favorite topics at this time is to accuse Mexico of having narco parties, because it is the narrative that they have been handling.And it seems to me that the hunger operations that were carried out both in Morelos, as in the state of Jalisco, as in the state of Mexico, have shown that it is not a problem of a party, it is a problem of a political issue, that we do not have the sufficient tools so that organized crime does notget involved, because all the parties involved, at least in the municipal presidencies so far, have demonstrated, under the yoke of the criminals, who do have the capacity to put candidates, to force people to vote, and to take care, obviously, of all those territorial rights that they consider to have in that territorial control that the criminals manage.

Cesar, in this part, the Attorney General of the Republic, with this quote that he makes to the governor, which is the one we are putting, could have been hindered by some kind of legal process for this situation that they put me in imputation articles, when in reality he goes as a witness.And why?I mean, apart from what you mention, you say, well, it seems that someone grabbed the machete and sent it like that.Can that kind of mistake hinder the process?

Of course they can hinder the process, believe me.Let's see, at first, This already gives them reasons to turn to a federal judge and support so that they do not appear.But in addition, the legal recommendation of a lawyer would be that she does not appear because she is not obliged, not constitutionally, because she has that procedural immunity.to introduce herself and the public ministry agent will be able to ask her to introduce herself again.Let's remember that it was even when the Senate of the Republic asked her to appear and she said yes and later said, well, you know what, I had things to do and I better not do it anymore.That is a reality, but it seems to me that politically it can have both a positive and a negative effect, because obviously for them the positive will be to say, foreign foreign

In this moment.Yes, it's true, and I have to admit that Roberto Gil is not a good litigator, but he is a good politician.And he knows how to recognize where the flaws are in this citation.It seems to me that it is even assumed, and the same Constitution or the National Code says it, that we would have to make statements about what this interview will obviously be about.The reality is that The problem is that they do use some articles that are used for the impeached, and of course this gives them the justification to point out.They want to make a change in legal quality, which would be impossible because it would have to exist from now on.

I'm going to change it for a lawsuit.They know that it is illegal and that the change to a lawsuit could not be made if there is no declaration of origin.It seems to me that those are the two important points.What happens with Rocha Moya with everything and that the clarification that the Secretariat of Government does For what I understand, it means that both the governor of Chihuahua and the governor with a license from Sinaloa will go as witnesses, as well as the other seven Mexican citizens who are also impeached by the US government.But it seems to me that even Rocha Moya could be impeached, because there is an investigation by the Attorney General of the Republic.But as we are in this moment in the field of speculation, because we do not know, obviously, the quote that was sent to Rubén Rocha Moya.

Well, obviously, we are left with what the Secretariat of Government says, which I think should not have been clarified, because then you do give a political hint to a criminal investigation.when the people ask why a quote comes first to Maria Eugenia Campos, the truth is that it was not like that, first it came to Rocha Moya, but we must remember that even the fact of what happened in Chihuahua was prior to the impeachment against Rocha Moya, so the quote must have come before.I understand the part in which the governor had not wanted to give a statement and that at all times she said that she had no knowledge and that she could not speak of the fact because there was a special prosecutor where she could not speak at this time because there was an open investigation, believe me.But after what happened last week, where she contradicted herself in various means of communication, but publicly accepted that she did have knowledge and that she does not believe me, foreign And of course, there will be political motivations, but in reality, it is up to the Attorney General of the Republic to require it.The problem is that the form, as they are doing it, is confused with the articles, because you are using articles of impeached, when in reality you are sending them to call as witnesses.public, professional and independent, regardless of political parties.

Cesar, what would happen if the governor decides not to go?The statements she made in this media tour last week, could the prosecution take them for their investigations?

the CIA.in Mexico.foreignforeign there would have been no need to call the governor if it is not that she goes on a tour of the media where she publicly accepts that she did have knowledge of these operations.And that seems to me that if it is important, why?Because the confession that she makes, obviously the Attorney General of the Republic could use it to continue with these investigation folders.

And then if you request foreign foreign foreign foreign because if there was a clear and fragrant violation against the National Security Law, the Political Constitution of the United States of America, and also in the Federal Penal Code, because who authorized this work to be carried out, my dear Meme?There are crimes there too.

Just that also in one of the interviews, the governor accepts that she makes use and due to attributions, the Attorney General of the Republic pointed it out as a new line of investigation.I don't know if the term I used is correct, but they say it's a crazy thing that the Attorney General of the Republic had to do and the Attorney General of the State did it without warning us and she went for the free one.That the governor says, well, we did that basically in an interview with Ciro Gomez Leiva.Exactly.

foreign foreignlaboratory.foreign foreign We have to recognize something, my dear Meme.How many drug laboratories has the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, the Mexican Army, On the contrary, Rocha Moya is being accused of being part of a criminal group where he allied with the criminal leaders.We know that because it is also a public and notorious fact that two of these leaders are cooperating with the US government.And he will then have the opportunity to be called and give a statement regarding these facts and the Attorney General of the Republic to investigate whether it is being carried out or not.

But let's not confuse one thing with the other.It has nothing to do or is a political revenge.Both are accused of having committed crimes.the problem is that this issue has been politicized when they are completely different things.

In the case of the prosecutor, which is another one, they also quote the prosecutor, they had already quoted him previously, the ex -prosecutor Cesar Jauregui, but now they also do it again.What is the situation of this ex -prosecutor, who is the one who gives 10 different versions from the beginning of this situation?

Look, Meme, yes, remember that he said it was fake after they found them, that after they gave him a Rite, he told him that they were 8 hours apart, that later, curiously, the person who unfortunately loses his life in this accident is the only one who had knowledge, but it must be remembered that he is sent to quote as he should have been sent to quote from day 1.foreign foreign In these two scenarios, Cesar, to be very conclusive, in the case of the governor, she can go or not go, although they already said that they were going to go, and even if she goes, absolutely nothing will happen to her immediately, contrary to what Gil Suar is trying to politicize.That's right, of course there can't be an arrest warrant because it would be illegal.We all know, everyone in this country knows that she has constitutional funeral and that is a procedural immunity.And for her to be able to be detained and for an arrest warrant to exist,warrant, even an investigation against her.

Because the investigation can exist, but she sent her to call as a deputy.Of course, there would have to be a statement of origin.And she knows that although at the federal level it could be carried out, she has control of the state Congress.And this is a reality that she knows that because of the antecedents that they already have, in this case the same lawyer, Roberto Gil Swart, that with Francisco Javier García Cabeza de Vaca, well, they are simply not going to touch it.So it is part of using a legal matter of criminal investigation to turn it into a matter of political character.And how strange, isn't it, that there are already characters like Vicente Fox who say, I used to have a proximate candidata de Mexico.

I used to have a proximate heroina, cuando obviamente no tiene absolutamente nada que ver una cosa con la otra.Si ella, mi querida mami, te lo digo netamente, no hubiera salido a los medios de comunicación a dar esas entrevistas tan mal preparada, tan atropellada, donde reconoce públicamente que sí tenía conocimiento de que había agentes extranjeros realizando operaciones ilegales en México.She would not have had any problem, nor would they have sent her to appear in quality of nothing, not even as a witness.It seems to me that she was the only one who ended up creating this situation.

Do you think it was poorly advised or that this tour of the media, even in your experience as a lawyer, I'm

foreign foreign Roberto Gil is one of these characters who has mixed the legal part, as he did at the time, Diego Fernández de Ceballos, who has that political control and who has also taken him to the extreme with the judicial power.That is why the change in the judicial power.I have said it many times.There are great judges and there were great judges, but there were also, maybe the least, but there were also corrupt judges who lent themselves to these illegalities.He knows who can even use it legally, but of course it would not justify the political part of the statements that he is making, nor the ability to go out to the various media.Because even today we hear a person like Ciro Gómez Leiva, who makes the statement of what is the problem with Maro Campos, why she dismantled a drug lab, that's why they want to go after her.

No, gentlemen, of course not.It is because it is known foreignRepublic investigue seriamente, profesionalmente, y si existen.those indications that criminal action is exercised against Rocha Moya and all that corrupt official who has allied himself with criminals.Beyond, of course, the political issues that are emerging in the United States.Because I, with all due respect, Meme, I do not believe that the United States government is now so concerned to go against the criminals who introduce drugs into the United States and who consider them foreign terrorists.

when they were the ones who created the serious addiction problem in the United States, allowing laboratories to legally make more than 60 million North Americans addicted again.And because they also have the tools and the keys to go against all the members of these Mexican criminal groups, who are the ones who obviously illegally distribute foreign foreign foreign foreign And the Republicans are playing the majority in Congress.If they lose the majority in Congress, they could get an impeachment, which is a political trial against Donald Trump, to dismiss him as president.And it's a lot of what's at stake, my dear Meme, and it seems to me that all these issues have been politicized.But keep in mind that all Mexicans want him well, that if Rocha Moya and any of the other seven officials

I don't I understand what Rocha Moya said, that he is going to the prosecutor's office here in Mexico City.Is there any kind of difference?Does that change the fact that the Attorney General of the Republic appoints the governor in Chihuahua and Rocha Moya here?

Look, what happened is what I was telling you, really when you quote a person who has a special treatment, like in this case, the executive's boss, it is said that you will have to appeal it, it can even be in their offices.You have to remember that she is going as a witness and for the same reason, it is about facilitating the fact that she does not have to move or move.In the case of Rocha Moya, I consider that it could even go as an impeachment.We don't know the citatory as such, but there is an open investigation.So, at the same time, I request that it appear, because the organic law of the Attorney General of the Republic indicates that the citations will have to be made in person.That is why they are handling it this way.

I think there are legal grounds in which a treatment is given as an imputation to the governor and others that if it is as a witness.The problem is that the foundations that the agent of the public ministry put or that he pointed out usually mixes them and that gives tools to the defense of Mario Eugenio Acampos to say they want to make a change.foreignforeign Quizás no, para algunos el manejo de la gobernadora María Eugenia Campos este tema.Querido César, te agradezco infinitamente que pudieras conectarte para ayudarnos a explicar esto, que quede claro y obviamente es un proceso que seguirá, ya veremos qué pasa el 27 y los días que vengan, porque lo habíamos platicado antes, lamentablemente el caso con el fuero de la gobernadora nos recuerda mucho al de Francisco Javier García Cabeza de Vaca, sobre todo porque también vienen elecciones en el 27, Cabeza de Vaca foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign Totalmente de acuerdo.

Querido Cesar, ayúdame diciéndole a la audiencia dónde pueden seguirte en tus redes sociales y estar pendiente también de tus comentarios y opiniones en otros espacios.

Meme, I invite you to follow me on my account at x, which is arrobasargutipri, on my TikTok account at arrobasargutipri1, on my YouTube account at sargutierospreo, and on the columns that I write, both in La Silla Rota and El Heraldo de México, and of course, in the book spaces like yours, my dear meme, I send you a big hug, and obviously I'm grateful to you, to the people who see us and listen to us, and thanks for the congratulations of the Cruz Azul, we finally made the tenth, we are ambitious, now we are going for the eleventh.

Thank you so much for having me. sabe que no pueden cambiarle a Mario Genia Campos de testigo imputado, lo sabe muy bien, sabe que no pueden porque trae el blindaje, además conoce el caminito al 100 % porque es el mismo caminito que llevó con Francisco Javier García Cabeza de Vaca.La enorme diferencia, si me permiten agregar, y creo que lo había platicado, no recuerdo exactamente con quién, es que Cabeza de Vaca fue más inteligente que Mario Genia Campos.Cabeza de Vaca nunca hizo un tour de medios en el que se And also, Cabeza de Vaca already had the double nationality.We don't know if Maria Eugenia Campos will have an agreement or not with the United States, or if she is applying for some kind of special visa.We don't know.We know that she has visited the United States a lot.

She has been a governor for many years, since 2020 -2021.She arrived in 2021.y para el 22 -23 la gobernadora ya estaba haciendo acuerdos con Greg Abbott en Texas.Entonces, sabemos que la gobernadora ha estado tejiendo ese cambio.y perfectamente, hay que ser muy realistas con esto.Por mucho que se inicie el proceso, podríamos estar enfrentándonos, porque son las mismas personas, a un caso como el de Cabeza de Vaca.

Las diferencias son notables.Cabeza de Vaca se amparó mucho tiempo atrás.Le quitan el fuero constitucional a nivel federal, pero no el local.Lo blindó su congreso.Ni siquiera hizo la entrega a recepción de su gobierno en territorio nacional.Se fue a Estados Unidos.

Lo hizo virtual, mandó un video.Luego intentó ser candidato presidencial a Cabeza de Vaca por Zoom.Ahí ya la empezó a regar, honestamente.Pero el proceso previo, We never saw him go out and put the rope around his neck like Governor Maria Eugenia Campos did, which also, if you'll allow me, here it is.This is what it cost the Chihuahuans, the media tour of the governor of the state of Chihuahua.203 million pesos.

TV Azteca And I don't even know if I should thank him or tell him that it's his responsibility.I don't even know how to handle this because the source is the Secretary of State of the State of Chihuahua.It is his obligation, it is his obligation to inform him.But we are not, imagine the surprise that we are not used to the governments being so transparent.

I think they forced it.

Of course, it is that after seeing the situation, imagine you.That by the way, TV Azteca is very angry because the president said, don't watch TV Azteca, and they are making a mess of TV Azteca.TV Azteca, 94 million pesos.Radio Formula, 47 million pesos.Grupo Imagen, 31 million pesos.Latinos, 16 million pesos.

They are still making fun of Latinos.9 ,000 ,000 Adela Micha 2 ,000 ,000 We also have to thank you that Joaquin didn't act like he was with another character, let's say.

He was very light, and with all that, he took the bait.

It's just that after two million, he also had...

No, no, no, but I mean, he was light.He wasn't aggressive, he wasn't insensitive, he wasn't...Even...I told you.

It was better to interview him, but I had to say it.

Sí, hasta en el corte comercial tuvieron.

Sí, la dijo, usted, mi señora gobernadora, casi señora presidenta, permítanme le que muy incienso.

Sí, claro, sí, debo decir que sí.Pero Joaquín todavía hasta le dio chance de recular porque se fue a un corte comercial.Y regresó con su papelito.Y regresaron como, para que quede claro, lo que dije hace rato no era.Lo bueno es esto.

Lo voy a decir bien.

Exacto.

Ahorita lo voy a decir bien.

Y de ahí se está agarrando ya la información pública.for what comes from Wednesday.

Exactly.

How cool.Very good.

That's right.

And well, and with Rocha.At the end of the day, there are two fronts there.

Here they say, I don't understand why they say the title, media control in Mexico City, and on the other side it says sources.Because they are media that are in Mexico City.All these media are with those who were the governor of the state of Chihuahua who have headquarters in Mexico City.

They are national media.and the media are in Mexico City.

And here are all the witnesses.Sonafri is the media that publishes, which is a Chihuahua media of investigation.Digital media, by the way.But here they are, with all of them, the governor.They left several out of the group formula.They only went with the two heavy names, Ciro González and López Dóriga.

Ciro...

López Dóriga is given directly, that is, it is López Dóriga with him.

What happens is that, look, I have told you, all these media, even before you arrived, you as independent digital media, it was always handled like this.In fact, López Doriga, what he does is that he buys the space of Radio Fórmula, and he commercializes it.

That's right.

So he always manages his...

True, which is like the case of Marta de Baila in...

Exactly.They buy the space.How much does it cost me?So much?Ah, perfect.But I...

I do with my space whatever I want.

Ah, of course.You're right.It's good that we also make that clarification, because the two spaces were in formula, but with different criteria.Let's call it that.

It can be one that is directly arranged with the production of the company, or rather with the financial area of the company, and another directly with the production of Joaquin, which is completely foreign.Yes, of course, and as Aristei and all those who have their independent media do.

That's right.Well, there it is, with all of them out.There it is, what happened with the governor.What did he say?la gobernadora del estado de Chihuahua después de esto?O no, miren, vámonos al revés.

La presidenta Claudia Echengo en la mañanera se lo preguntaron sobre estos citatorios.Recordemos que no, no le toca a la presidenta, aunque Gil Swart justamente hace la narrativa como de las instrucciones que reciben, refiriéndose o intentando meter que es el gobierno federal el que está pidiéndole a la fiscalía que opere de esta manera.No sabría yo si la presidenta le va a pedir a la fiscalía que opere con errores hasta la autografía.Dudo yo, pero...

No debería.

Pero, dudo yo, pero se lo preguntaron a la presidenta y esto fue lo que contestó en la mañana.

This weekend, we are going to see these images about the citation to the governor of Chihuahua, Maru Campos, to declare in front of the facts that we all know.And also the National Action Party, in this framework, supports it.To know your opinion about it, what do you think about this process that would be taking, I understand, the next few days.I think Wednesday is when it would be declared.

Well, among many investigations, the prosecution has two investigations.One, the case of Chihuahua, of the presence of two agents, well, also foreign agents, but two of them who unfortunately died in an operation, we do not know very well.The prosecution will have to explain, in a visit, let's say, to a laboratory, as far as we know.

And it has interviewed several.

of the Chihuahua Prosecutor's Office.has several interviews.And as part of the procedures, I understand that he also called the governor for an interview.It does not mean that she is accused of some issue, but simply because of what the prosecutor's office reported, she was called for an interview.And also, among many other cases, there is the case of Sinaloa, which due to the request for urgent detention with extradition purposes, the U .S.

Department of Justice to 10 Mexicans.Well, it also opened an investigation and is also calling for interviews, including the governor licensed from Sinaloa, the senator who was also or who is licensed from the municipal presidency of Culiacán, and others.There are two others who turned themselves in.So it's part of the investigations that the prosecution does.That's why I said, well, they're procedures.There's no imputation, so the prosecution hasn't told anyone.

sino sencillamente entrevistas.the governor of the state of Chihuahua had another version.The governor, as we saw and as we have been seeing, has opted for victimization, because it is not even victimization.She posted a tweet saying that she received this quote from the FGR for the drug lab, which is not as such, but for the violations of the constitution, not for the dismantling of the drug lab.It talks about a political persecution, but it says that is going to face, talks about this protection to delinquents of those who pursue her, referring obviously to the case of Rocha Moya, this was what the truth said.

probably seen it in the media.This afternoon I received a quote from the Attorney General of the Republic on the issue of the Narcolaboratory.They hadn't done it, but after the interviews of these days, they've already decided.How about this?Protect the criminals and pursue those we try to fulfill our duty.Yes.

La persecución política en mi contra continúa.Y como siempre, seguiré dando la cara y dando la lucha por tu familia, por nuestro país, por Chihuahua y por la libertad.Hasta donde tope, por nuestro estado y por México.Muchas, muchas gracias por sus mensajes.Los mantendré al tanto y que tengan un muy bendecido fin de semana.

There it is, what Governor Maria Eugenia Campos said, referring to herself, she says that she is going to face it, we will see it on May 27, although the political narrative around this has ceased to be legal since the beginning of the investigation.of Morena and of Andrea Chavez, senator with a license.In addition, there is the contention towards 2027, Cruz Pérez Jullián is also a candidate, he does not mention it.We were seeing if the mayor of Juárez had any kind of statement about this request to the governor.We did not find anything, but Ariadna Montiel, yes, she shared through her social networks the tweet saying, we recognize the performance of the Attorney General of the Republic, to conduct impartially and in accordance with the Constitution the facts of public interest that are currently being clarified in our country, as reported by the prosecution itself.The people mentioned will appear as witnesses and witnesses.

Andra Chavez said the following.

The governor of Chihuahua received the notification that forces her to declare before the Attorney General of the Republic after violating the sovereignty and the Mexican constitution.Along with the mayor Roberto Gil Suarte, who swore not to work in Chihuahua, he only managed to defend himself with the sad argument that she should declare and Rocha should not.When hours before, the Sinaloan governor had also been cited to make a statement with a license.Nerviosa, the governor, shielded herself in her constitutional forum, which does not prevent her from making a statement to justice after having refused to do so in the local Congress and in the Senate.Before the ones who always accuse us of political persecution, I wonder how we are not going to declare before the justice who involuntarily recognized his crimes in front of millions of Mexicans on open television like in a dozen interviews?But this time it is different.

Before the prosecution, he will not be able to lie, nor change the subject, nor agree on the questions, nor use teleprompter.For the good of our land, of our people and of his own, I recommend that this time, if he tells the whole truth about the unfortunate episode that offended all the Chihuahuans, and all Mexicans.

There is what Senator Andrea Chavez said.And since we are on that, what were the reactions on the other side, in the case of Sinaloa?Because I insist, who are the best, the technicians or the rough ones?

I have never understood that.The technicians are the best.Well, they are the good ones.

The good ones are the technicians, the rough ones are the bad ones.Thank you for the clarification.

Well, here I think there are neither technicians nor rough ones, actually.there have also been tough -on -tough fights.

Let's suppose that everyone here is tough.

Yes, yes, yes.

Because I don't see the good side of the story in this place.How did they react from Sinaloa?Because they are also cited in the prosecutor's office.The governor with a license, Rubén Rocha Moya, said Hoy en las horas de la mañana recibí citatorio para comparecer ante la Fiscalía General de la República.Le digo a las y los hinaloenses, a las y los integrantes de nuestro movimiento de transformación, a nuestra líder y jefa de Estado mexicano, soy un hombre probo y que no tiene nada que temer.Mi biografía testimonia lo que soy.

Atenderé el requerimiento que me ha sido formulado por la Fiscalía General de la República con la frente en alto y con la certeza de que la verdad habrá de prevalecer.Well, it was already missing that he wasn't.Imagine that he wasn't.He can't justify himself on the issue of the forum.Enrique Inzunza, the one who does have a forum, because he is a senator.Today I have received a citation to appear before the Attorney General of the Republic, as I assured him from the beginning, I will personally and punctually attend to this call.

I will be my own lawyer, protected in my professional privilege and my personal honor.And he missed putting it there, on the forum.I am a man of the Republic, of its laws and of its institutions, to which I have served with honor and decorum and commitment.I will not prevail over the provisional immunity of the processional dominance.that, on account of my position, grants me Article 111 of the Constitution, neither of the exception that I provided to present the citation of Article 90 of the National Code of Criminal Procedures.I trust in the democratic institutions that we have built, the Mexican ones, truth, justice and defense of national sovereignty.

Although it has a forum, it says that it is not going to use it, but it has it.foreign foreign With the ex -governor?With the ex -governor, today Senator of Morena, Javier Corral.That Javier Corral, from what we understood in the tweet, was in Mazatlán and went to Culiacán.

No, no, no, it was in Mazatlán.

No, it was in Culiacán.Because the photo is taken...The tweet is complicated.The one who uploads the photo says they were in Culiacán, in a club in Culiacán.

No, they were in Mazatlán.

No, in a club in Culiacán.

Well, wherever, it's Sinaloa.

The point is they were in Sinaloa.But that was a confusion, because precisely the person who uploads the photo says they are in a club in Culiacán.Here is Inzunza.and then Corrala Clara, who was in Mazatlán, spoke with Insunza and they met in Culiacán.The point is that they met, the point is that Insunza is in the state of Sinaloa and apparently the reason why Insunza is not going to work is because the Morena parliamentary group asked him not to do it so that the Senate sessions would not focus on him.I believe him perfectly, really, I buy it 100%.

I'm sure Nacho Mier or anyone else told him, why are you coming?We have very important things to talk about.You're coming and every session will be the same.So we're not going to move forward, but it's an extraordinary period.I understand it perfectly.

Even for the main message of the day, you kill the press that covers the Senate.

Let's see what happens in the next 27.The only citatory that we know publicly is the one that is done to the governor, María Eugenia Campos, because neither Insunza, nor Rocha Moya, nor the mayor of Culiacán, who also has a license, have uploaded it, but the three of them, through their social networks, confirmed that they were going.of those, I'm missing five.

Five on the Pacific side.

Well, since we're on criminals and impunity, Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas is the perfect example of criminals and impunity.100%.And we've been talking about it for a long time.We talked about it in Sin Embargo.In fact, it is Romina Gandares, however, who asked the president the question about impunity in characters like Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas, which on the one hand, I must say, I have mixed feelings.On the one hand, I love that Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas is the leader of PRI.

I'm a big fan.See how he has destroyed it in record time.Zero complaints.Look, as someone who once in his life, being very young and naïve, militated in the PRI, even for 8 months.I celebrate it.

How to make the party?

I never thought that my eyes would see the destruction of the PRI.And Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas has done it.tell you, who is the most priest that I can see?I don't know.because in his descendancy he has Esperanza as his last name.But let's see, the Bastida, they revived it a little bit, just like...

They revived it a little bit because you know that the opposition has two, it has two maximums.If I can't get it abroad, I'll get it out of a sarcophagus.

From the manga.

No, from the sarcophagus.It's the opposition in general, because they've even done it with Diego Fernandez de Valles.

Mumra does exist.

Of course it exists.What's the name of Mumra's dog?Mamut.Mamut, right?for a little while and they will rescue Mamu too.But well, yes, that's how we have the PRI.

So the opposition in general, if they don't find strong leadership, really, if there is a crisis, they put Sochi Legales as their candidate, really.Let's see, in the absence of strong political leaders in national territory, they have two left, or they are going to beg, to kneel to the United States or Spain, with Isabel Díaz Ayuso, who was also a fraud, a real fiasco, a total failure, a resounding failure.Si no van al extranjero, no reviven a los de aquí.Entonces...Movemiento Ciudadano is leaving.Claudia Ruiz Macío, Movemiento Ciudadano.

You don't have those old leaders of PRI anymore.You stay with Moreira and Carolina Villena.Your future is zero promising.Who do you rescue?La Bastida.La Bastida talks about the case of Sinaloa and gets tangled up too, because he was also linked to organized crime at the time, although he even spoke to the Mossad, so that when he was governor of Sinaloa, they solved a problem that was not solved.

We are all clear that it was not resolved and that happened in 1980 and so.So, in the face of that scenario, I celebrate that Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas continues on the streets, because he has no choice.But on the other hand, there is a huge impunity.Let us remember that Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas is pursued by serious crimes related to the diversion of federal resources while he was governor of the state of Campeche.He was governor for three years, he did not even finish his term.In those three years, as governor of the state of Campeche, he would have deviated resources from federal funds for education and women, in something called the 90 -10 scheme.

90 % of the federal resources were given to him, 10 % was invested by him.state of Campeche.There have been investigations by different media, including Mexicans Against Corruption and Impunity.They have found out how it was made from a property called the White House of Campeche, a property that you can't even, because it's also close to the beach, you can't put a drone near the area, because they're going to immediately knock it down.so that it does not turn around from that house.But it was a property that we also requested Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas to inform us, to pass us the contact of his real estate advisor, because according to public records, he acquired the square meter for pennies, which no one has ever done in their life.

For pennies, the square meter of property in the state of Campeche.It is a house that also, when Laida Sansores enters the government and starts with the Tuesday of the Jaguar, very poorly managed, if I may say so, with Renato Sales, who was then a prosecutor of the state of Campeche, they began to make this whole situation public.I say, for the public interest, how wonderful, but they gave more than one element to the research folder so that Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas could stop and hinder the due process, because audios, videos, photographs of the property of Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas were exhibited.For many years there was the rumor that the then governor, today senator, Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas, had a yellow Lamborghini.Our sources confirmed to us that in fact he had sent or sent to close the roads, the road of Campeche, the one that was closest to him, very early in the morning, to be able to go out, run his car, because in the streets of Campeche, how was there going to be a governor driving a yellow Lamborghini?Obviously, the situation from the state of Campeche, from the prosecutor's office, because one

thing is that, periodically, the audios or the videos would be found.This was done by the authority in Campeche.So, they do the cateos, they do all these investigations, and we are left in a limbo of many public statements and few nuts.Here, the one of a lot of noise and few nuts was applied.We enter into a very vicious process in which it is requested from the prosecution, still headed by Renato Sales, of defiance against Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas when he was a federal deputy.He was already a senator.

When he was a federal deputy, what happened?It was discussed at the time, in 2020.2020 -2021, of a presumed agreement between the then Secretary of Government, Adan Augusto López Hernández, and Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas.What was the element of negotiation?That the PRIs present a reform related to the National Guard, and then the process of disengagement was lowered.This is vented by Laida Sanzores.

governor of the state of Campeche.And from there comes a deep rejection of Adán Augusto López Hernández.Time goes by and then we find out from Hugo Eric Flores, today president of the Instructive Section Commission of the House of Representatives, who are the ones who lead these processes, that the prosecution did not deliver some documents, that some elements were not delivered, that a paper was lost, And so Hugo Heri Flores has taken it away, saying that now they are going for Alito Moreno, that now the good one is going, now this one is going seriously, the good one is going well, this one yes, we get out of this one, and we end up again in the eternal entanglement.So what Romina Gandara poses to me is another scenario, which is that the anti -corruption prosecutor did not even presentI'll see you next time.

Last week in the program Los Periodistas, Alvaro and Alejandro showed a lot of information about how Mr. Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas has continued without being processed, I mean, without being subjected to a precedence trial Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas.Within all this information that was made known, now we know that the anti -corruption prosecutor Maria de la Luz Mijangos never sent that request to the House of Representatives and that's why the defraud was never initiated.I would like to ask you if you know if this was a decision of the prosecutor, if it was of the former prosecutor Alejandro Gertz Manero, or if someone else intervened so that the defraud trial against Alejandro Moreno would not be initiated.

I don't know why they didn't send us to the House of Representatives.I can tell you my position in these cases.It's better to return what was stolen.It's not so much if a person is arrested.When it's proven, it has to be proven, obviously, an act of corruption.It's better to return what was stolen, from my point of view.

It depends on the prosecutor's office.No, you can do extinction of domain, many things, if the person doesn't want to return it.No necesariamente tiene que ser desaforado y llevado a juicio.

¿Entonces para qué están los procesos como el desaforado?

No, eso es parte de los juicios.O sea, puede haber una salida alternativa.no necesariamente prisión.Entonces, son salidas alternativas.As has happened many times, recently they returned to the wife of a governor.I do not remember right now, I do not want to say something that is not true.

But the goods were returned to him.So if it is shown, I repeat, that the alternative exits to the trials are sought, I think.

Hugo Herif Flores, who is the President of the Instructor Commission, in some interviews, and not recent ones, since the end of 2024, has detailed how impunity was built, for example, how it was hidden and fragmented, that is, the file of Alejandro Moreno was put in different files there in the House of Representatives, which seemed to...

The Attorney General's Office, the Attorney General's Office of the Republic, is reviewing it, what happens in this case if there is sufficient evidence.I'mland, being an authority, then let the land be returned so that a university can be built.That would be very good.That's why there is an institute called Instituto para Devolver al Pueblo lo Robado.A good is seized, it is auctioned, and that resource is used for the benefit of the people.

By the way, we are going to invite Monica soon because resources have been given for the benefit of the poorest municipalities.

The videos and the images of the mansions and the beaches of Alejandro Moreno have generated a lot of outrage.And that's why the question is, why don't these experiences advance?

Well, that has to be answered by the prosecutor.It's not a matter of the president, because the president has all the power in the world and rules everywhere.There is a prosecution that does its job, there is a judicial power that does its job, and it's up to me. mine and we have a relationship with the legislative power when we send initiatives so that they can be approved.But they are autonomous powers, so if the prosecutor considers that it should proceed, then let it proceed.What do I think?Well, it is better to return the stolen.

That has always been my position.For example, in the case of the real estate cartel of Benito Juárez, The opportunity was given to him when he was Attorney General Ernestina Godoy.There were arrests.He was given the opportunity, some of them, to return what was proposed that had been taken away.arranged.Floors, buildings, in short.

It was not enough and that is why freedom was not considered, but that was what Ernestina Godoy did at the time.In this case, I think, as a president, as a citizen, that in cases where it is demonstrated, that it is ordered by a judge, that there are known cases of corruption with evidence, I repeat, imagine, the person goes to jail.Then he gets out of jail and he's going to enjoy his property, which he stole.So it's better for him to get his property back, which he stole.I'm saying this in this case and in others.What did you say out there?

Or both.

No, it's an alternative way out.I mean, if he gets back what he stole, it can be an alternative way out.

However, if he doesn't even get to the judges, that is, it's a case that he has at least since 2020, 2022.Let the prosecution answer in this case.And the question is this, then any alleged criminal with resources, with money, can remain unpunished and with access to public resources?

No, that's what the prosecutor's office is for.The prosecutor's office has done a very good job since Ernestina came in, and also Attorney Gertz.We can have some cases where maybe we presume that he would have acted differently, but the prosecutor's office could evaluate it.

Ricardo Monreal and Adán Augusto at different times were able to push or stop this hearing within the Congress.They stopped it, or they would have asked the Anti -Corruption Prosecutor.I know you just mentioned that it's other instances that have to give answers, but why don't you give answers to this, and if you were asked, you should already give answers.

It's the prosecutor who has to answer.I give my opinion on what I consider to be better to do justice, and that it's a viable way out in terms of a trial.But well, let the prosecutor answer in this case.

That's what the president said.Look, I understand, I want to explain this in two parts.The political part has to do with preventing them from falling into the ridicule of the discourse of political persecution.But in the legal part, the fact is that we have allowed for decades, for practically the entire Mexican political history, impunity in this type of case.And we could even say that the case of Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas is smaller than many.We are talking about a character who deflected resources.

The president responds, well, that it is better to return the stolen to the people.Aha, and then what?That they continue in freedom and impunity?We could say that the best punishment for someone who stole money is that you take it away.Okay, but it's like when they tell me that the best punishment for a public servant who has committed a crime is that they make him unable to exercise another public position.They really don't care.

The scourge hasn't been the same.The anti -corruption secretariat and the government, listen, we haven't talked about it, but they've been informing us all week how they've been sanctioning civil servants.From the secretariat of asylum, from different dependencies, they've been sanctioning civil servants.The problem with corruption is that it's not enough to make them unable to occupy a public office.to recover part of the resources, because most likely you are not going to recover 100 % of the resources and you are going to end up recovering only a part.Perhaps you can start to make seizures or domain extinctions or whatever you want, but even so, the damage is already done.

So I understand when the president says, well, it is better that they return the money that was stolen, y con eso ya nosotros podemos empezar a resolver.En el caso de Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas, apunta que la Casa Blanca, es esta casa que les digo que compró el entonces gobernador, hoy senador de la república, a centavos de peso el metro cuadrado, claramente en una irregularidad.El trasfondo ya ni siquiera es la casa, sino que el trasfondo es el desvío de recursos federales.Pero dice la presidenta que se extingue el dominio y ahí construimos una universidad.Me parece maravilloso.¿Cuál es el problema?

Yo insisto, Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas, for his part, obviously, victimizes himself, evidently, and says, Presidenta Claudia Sheinbaum, sigue usted con sus amenazas.Conmigo se equivoca.Si existe algo más grande que el poder que ostenta, es el valor para enfrentarlo, y eso no está del lado de ustedes.Para ustedes, un narcopartido, la persecución en mi contra ha sido el arma favorita para distraer al pueblo de México de los grandes problemas que enfrenta el país desde que ustedes gobiernan.This is what the infamous and clumsy president López Obrador did.A resentful and limited narco -politician who only served to open the door to organized crime cartels, to make them candidates for Morena and to give them a chance to govern.

This is a reality in the town of Quintana Roo.Presidenta, su posición no debe de ser fácil.because one thing is to govern and another is to stop doing it to cover up for your allies who face serious accusations from the United States for being linked to the characters of organized crime.You can use all the power of the state to threaten me, harass me or chase me. I'm not going to shut up.The problem is not me.The problem is that Morena is overwhelmed by the narco alliance that he built and promoted, and now he can no longer control.

They are a ball of narco -politicians, a gang of cynical and criminal criminals.The people of Mexico will not breaking news has just discovered organized crime.Do you know what the worst part of the case is?The worst part of the case in all this is that if Morena had not accepted some mayors who left the PRI looking for their re -election, perfectly Morena could answer the PRI by saying, excuse me, what?You were telling me, but no, no, no, no.Morena felt like an ambulance and said, come in, I'll open the doors for you.

I, I, I'll open them.What ambulance?

She felt, uh, emergencies here, everything.

No, she said, I, I, I'll cover them.You don't worry, leave them to me.And then they were arrested, but the last party they joined was Morena, and then she can't say, oh, no, well.But before they studied at the PRI.

It's like the Chabla family.says she's going to change her boyfriend, right?

Come on, yes, no.

No, I'll change him.

Yes, no, no, no, thank you Alejandro Moreno Cárdenas for this great discovery.And the journalists who have been dedicating decades to this, were stunned by such a discovery made by the national leader of the PRI.

Now that you say it without Yolanda.Now that you say it without Yolanda.

Now that I say it, no.But I really question it sometimes.Yes, he will write them.I mean, these tweets, yes, Alito will write them.Or he will have a lawyer who surely does not know that organized crime has existed for 40 years or more.I don't know.

Sometimes I have doubts about the discoveries of certain political figures.But since we are talking about political figures, one that is already leaving.He leaves the presidency of Morena and that is Andrés López Beltrán.Remember that he does not like to be called Andy.Andrés Manuel López Beltrán.

Who, Andy?

Uh -huh.Confirma un rumor que ya se venía cocinando desde hace algunas semanas, y es que estaría buscando una candidatura.En una carta que comparte a los medios de comunicación, dice Andrés López Beltrán que pues ya, él toma esta decisión y dice lo siguiente.Me dirijo a ustedes de manera respetuosa para queto your consideration the following requests.In congruence with what was agreed in the 7th Ordinary Session of the National Council of our party, I have decided to separate myself from my position in the Secretariat of Organization of the National Executive Committee of Morena and my role as a member of the National Election Commission.

Lo anterior se debe a que he decidido que en su momento, en los tiempos que nuestras convocatorias marcan y la ley electoral señala, contendré por el cargo a diputado federal por la vía de elección popular en el sexto distrito electoral federal del estado de Tabasco, que comprende los municipios de Centro, Jalapa, Tacotalpa y Teapa.Let me also inform you that in relation to the Secretariat of Organization, which I had the honor to lead to this day, and presents some of the achievement balances, which is to increase the affiliation to 10 million new affiliates, the credentialing of about 7 million of the new affiliates, the installation of 300 modules, it is also said that they established some sectional committees in their party, we are talking about 97 % of the existing electoral sections in the country, forming municipal councils in 1 ,952 municipalities, equivalent to 97 .6 % of the municipalities of the country with a party regime, something that will be concluded on May 31, also by the coordinators.More than 272 assemblies of assessment and organization were held throughout the country.that thanks to these actions today we can affirm with pride that our party is the largest political organization in the history of Mexico and one of the largest in the world, but above all one of the most organized.Morena today is a reference in terms of organization for many parties in the world.Aprovecho la ocasión para reiterar mi entrega y militancia a nuestro partido, aunque deje de formar parte.

foreign foreign foreign giving the battle for this process to continue.To all the members of the party structure, I thank you, I thank you infinitely for the support, the support and the work.And to your people of Tabasco, he says that for him it has always been a pride to be Tabasco, to have been born in the cradle of our movement.He says that it fills him with happiness to return to his origins to, together with you, continue building from below the transformation of the country.And most likely, if you allow me to be honest, We will see Andrés Manuel López Beltrán as a federal deputy in 2027.Most likely, most likely, we will see Andrés López Beltrán there, one of the sons of President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, as a deputy now from the legislative trench, approving, presenting initiatives, defending Morena from the legislative trench.

We will see what happens.Obviously, Ariadna Montiel, the president of the opposition party, who received the letter of separation from the Secretariat of Organization of the National Executive Committee of Morena, thanks in the name of Morena for her work, effort and dedication to strengthen the militant base of our movement.She says that it has been many years of struggle, conviction,movement.That's just what Ariadna Montiel is saying right now regarding Andrés López Beltrán, who I insist, is leaving the presidency of Morena.I think the situation is totally square for him to be a congressman.

We will have to start analyzing his candidacy and have some polls to see how he is doing over there.because I haven't seen a lot of strength.

We don't know.I mean, I don't know this part.

We would have to do a survey there to see how it is.Because I don't see people very happy, but we'll see.

Well, I don't know.We haven't been to Tabasco.I mean, this is particularly Tabasco.Tabasco, I think it's a thing that does cook apart.It cooks completely apart.The case of Tabasco cooks completely apart.

It has a wide acceptance.Tabasco has always been a state that, at least since it's Morena and Andrés Manuel López Obrador.It is a state that votes widely for Morena.There you have Javier May, the number of votes he had.I think it is a maximum that they have been achieving.

For the party, not for the candidate.

For the party, especially for the party.And we'll see.Let's see what happens.I think it's a great exercise.I think it's a great exercise for him.

Exactly.

It's a great exercise for him.for him because not because you are the son of Andrés Manuel López Obrador, you already have the victories conquered within Morena, and that has become very clear.So we'll see.As long as it doesn't come out like Sergio Maier, who I heard today in an interview, and I doubt he's going to do it, it's obviously a joke.Put me the sarcasm one.What did Sergio Maier say?

He did say this.that he didn't even have to know about Morena's statutes, and that's why he quit, because he didn't want to be questioned for going on a private plane, or for having the luxuries that he has, and that he wasn't even interested, he didn't even have to know the statutes of the party in which he militated, and that's why it's good that he quit.Well, look, everything is fine.

No, and what I had said that...Excellent service.It has always been said that fortune has made it through the father -in -law, right?and the political contacts that have been made with the people.With what he said that had nothing to do, because his father -in -law was a priest, and obviously they never agreed politically, even when he made the film in which he participated as President Peña, Peña, what do you call him?Peña what?

Our supreme Tatuani of Copete Alto.

Even in that, sarcasm, even in that they were in disagreement and obviously with the job.He already had money when he met his now wife.

Because it is rare for the ball to go up and down.

No, of course, that's what he says, only for women.More than Garibaldi, it was only for women, which gave him the top.She grabbed him.What's his name?Camila, right?

Isabel.

Isabel.Isabel.Isabel.it in the fullness of her success.That's why everything she has is not from the party, is not from her father -in -law, is from her work.That's what she said.

Honest work.

That's what she said, I mean, I don't doubt that part, but well.So many surprises that we have seen that it is no longer known what to believe and what not to believe.

We see it, we talk about it, we talk about it.But well, Andrés López Beltrán is leaving and let's see how he does.In the elections, I insist, the scenario that I am seeing is that he is probably a federal deputy.For how many votes, I don't know.I don't know exactly the conditions of that district, but yes, yes, I think it could be.We would have to study it, we would have to get a little bit into the electoral part, we have to dust off my electoral skills to know more or less how the district has moved, particularly that vote, but it is a problem that it is, that it remains as as a federal deputy in the next electoral process.

But speaking of elections and justice, advice, advice for those who want to be judges in 2028, look, advice, and I say 2028 because it is very likely that the elections of the Judiciary will go from 2027 to 2028, but reflect in this case as in what should not be done, no.I repeat, this advice is directed to those people who want to be judges.In the next electoral processes, it doesn't even matter when, just don't do it, because then they would save, or rather, save us the pain of exhibiting them in this way.I'm going to tell you a story.This is the story of this woman.Let me introduce you.

She is Blanca Diva Ponce Caro.Blanca de Aponcecar, ¿usted la está viendo en este momento?Blanca Diva Poncecaro.decidió también estar en morena en la dirigencia, algo que está prohibido por la ley.Este fue un video, para que vean cómo, porque aquí este es el video, de cuando ella es jueza, ¿no?De cuando ella es jueza, hablando sobre las virtudes de un proceso judicial, que en teoría, sin importar que todos tenemos alguna ideología, algún nuestro corazoncito es tal, y eso es completamente respetable, No debe de interponerse porque estás en un cargo donde la balanza se tiene que mantener en su justa medianía y eso no pasó.

After this video went viral, Blancadiva renounced her position in the judicial power of the state of Sonora.In other words, she preferred a party position.En este documento pone, por medio de la presente me dirijo a ustedes de la manera más atenta y respetuosa de comunicarles mi decisión de separarme de forma definitiva e irrevocable del cargo de jueza oral penal del Poder Judicial del Estado de Sonora que hasta el día de hoy he tenido el honor de desempeñar.I have taken the decision to resign as an oral judge of the Penal Code of the Judicial District 2, with effects from today, May 24, 2026, privileging at all times the respect for legality, for the impartiality of the institution and for the trust of citizens in the judicial power.This decision has the purpose of avoiding interpretations or statements derived from my recent participation in party activities and acting with full public responsibility.I do this with the firm conviction that institutions must always be above people and with the sole purpose of contributing to the democratic strengthening of my community, an objective on which I believe deeply and from which I wish to continue contributing as a citizen.

I deeply appreciate the opportunity and the confidence deposited in me during my management, as well as the learning shared with my colleagues and collaborators within the Institute.Without another detail, I reiterate my respect and consideration, Blanca Diva Ponce.Give up to avoid misinterpretations.No, Pudwawa.He would have done it the other way around if we believed him.Really, if he had given up first, before taking protest as part of the Sonora committee, of Morena in Sonora, he would have bought it.

He did it the other way around.The resolution of this is that he was also left without charge in the committee.Morena in Sonora responds to him and, as they say, they always don't.Este boletín, dice, el Comité Ejecutivo Estatal de Morena, Sonora, hace del conocimiento público que Blanca Díaz Poncecaro fue relevada de suMorena Sonora.will proceed to dismiss this person from the militant pattern in front of the corresponding electoral body.

According to the order of depredation derived from the process, the position will be taken by Georgina López Cepeda, who obtained third place in this process, and says, Morena, since last year, Morena has been carrying out the Sumate Program, we are millions, with the aim of expanding your militant pattern.It is a process that is carried out house by house and in which people convinced to participate are invited.He was left without one, and he was left without the other.He was left with nothing.I insist, this is something that should not happen.No charge is a game, and much less the charges of the judicial power are not a game.

If your intention is to be elected for a charge, then do not apply for any, because you have no intention other than to be suctioning the schedule.And let me make it even clearer.No es tan mal que una persona tenga ambiciones políticas, pero estas no deben de estar mezcladas con la carrera judicial.Yo respaldo fielmente la elección al Poder Judicial y aún así reconozco y reconocí desde el primer momento que había muchísimas cosas a las que se tenían que aceitar, que había muchísimas cosas que se tenían que fortalecer, y había muchísimas cosas que se tenían que mejorar e incluso evitar.No solamente hablo del acordeón, hablo del proceso, incluso hablo de aquellas personas que se postularan.It doesn't matter the color or the political party, positions are not a game.

It's not, oh, I'm in this one right now, and then I'll switch to the other one.He did it, so you can see and understand where I'm going.Manuel Reyes' wife, mayor in Guanajuato, was mayor in office, and ended up resigning that position to be elected to the judicial power.Why?Tienes una encomienda en ese momento, termínala y sigue tu carrera por ese lugar.El Poder Judicial no es un juguete.

Ella estaba a cargo de juicios orales penales y se le hizo muy fácil violar las propias reglas judiciales, las reglas que están dentro de todo el proceso, no solo de la elección, sino dentro del marco administrativo, para irse a Morena porque quería ser dirigente.Es un cargo sin remuneración.¿Usted qué cree que buscaba?some kind of public office in 2027.So, it also does it wrong.First, it goes and affiliates to Morena, participates in Morena's internal processes, in the sectional committees, directs them, realizes that this scandal explodes in their face, presents their resignation, and that same day, they resign from the second office.

It stays like the dog of the two cakes.So, I insist, don't do this.If you want to be a candidate, define why and for what.Because we're already here?of candidates and political people who are only looking to see where they participate, to see where there is space, to see where they get the money.No, we need people who have the will to do the job, that if they know how to work, and if it is for the judicial path, there is a way to popular election.

It was not a way toat least morally, at least that they remain morally.

The most worrying thing is that being part of the judicial power, the local constitution of the state was not known, because according to article 123 of the local constitution, it precisely says that judges cannot perform any job or position or commission in other governmental or private areas while they are in office.

But well, there you have them.

You don't even know them.

What do I tell you?What do I tell you?But let's go to the other side of the trench, because we also have legislators who are a gem.

Here for everyone.

Here for everyone, really, here for everyone.A senator from the National Action Party, who is a senator for the state of Quintana Roo, if I'm not wrong, Senator Mayull.She decided, and this can be done by senators, yes, yes, yes, to go and supervise the Mayan train.The problem is that you can't just get there and say, I'm here, open the doors for me and look who I am.But the Mayuli Senator said, I can do it.She went to the Mayan train facilities and told the National Guard, get out, don't you know who I am?

I'm here to supervise.The most important.

I don't have my ID with me. I didn't think I'd use it.I always carry my ID as a senator, but I don't carry it.

I mean, the senator said, I'm a senator, and everyone should know that I'm a senator.Obviously.There are 128 senators.Everyone should know who they are, even their subordinates, so learn the task.And they say it at the National Guard event.The National Guard event is like, are you really waiting?

I'm going to google it to see if it's true or not.I insist, can the senator go to these meetings?Of course she can.Of course she can.But there are procedures for that.There are procedures.

You don't come like Juan to your house and say, don't you know who I am?Obviously, no one googled her.The senator assumed that they had not let her in.Well, no, ma 'am, take your...They give you a card that they are senators and you can also talk.Y decir, oye, voy a ir a hacer una supervisión, soy senador de la República.

Perfecto.Evidentemente, eso no ocurrió.Si me permiten, a ver.But well, what happened?Ah, there it was.It's good that we're back after this short signal break.

Look, they say, I mean, the National Guard that doesn't see my face, I'm a senator, let me pass, well, more or less, that's how it was.What, you don't know who I am?

I'm going to tell you now.

What, you don't know who I am?Come on, that's how I feel, that's how I feel a little bit.What, you don't know who I am?But well, look.Let's go with another information that I think is very important because last Friday a national assembly of the National Confederation of Municipalities of Mexico was held, the famous CONAM, because I say CONAM if it is famous because it agglomerates all the municipalities of Mexico.This confederation, this conference rather, conference, is considered the largest municipal organization in the country and is made up of the local governments and mayors of Mexico.

The meeting brought together mayors, municipal presidents and representatives of different national institutions with the aim of discussing the main challenges that municipalities face in terms of security, public services, infrastructure, mobility, water and budget coordination.The CONAN functions as an organization of representation and coordination between municipalities of different political forces, allowing to build common agendas and maintain the interlocution with the state governments and the federal government.In other words, even simpler, it is one of the main spaces where municipal governments seek to have a voice in the national decisions that directly impact the cities and communities of the country.During this assembly, the relevo of the presidency of thethe body was also carried out, a position that will now be headed by the mayor of La Gustava Madero, Giancarlo Lozano.The Presidency in La Conam not only represents a political appointment, it also represents the municipalities.

It implies coordinating the municipalities before the different powers and institutions, in addition to heading agreements and positioning on priority issues for local governments.La nueva dirigencia adelantó que va a buscar fortalecer el federalismo, mejorar la coordinación institucional y consolidar una agenda común para los municipios frente a los desafíos nacionales.Vamos a escuchar un fragmento del discurso que dio a cientos de alcaldes que estuvieron presentes en distintos medios de comunicación, que hoy preside la CONAMP, el alcalde de la Gustavo Madero, Giancarlo Lozano.

A quienes gobiernan las montañas, las costas, los desiertos, las ciudades, las comunidades más apartadas de nuestra nación.A quienes todos los días, sin reflectores, sin descanso, sostienen la vida cotidiana de este país.Hoy, asumimos juntos una enorme responsabilidad histórica al encabezar la CONAM.a plural organization, an organization where all political visions converge.Because when it comes to serving the people of Mexico, differences must become agreements, and politics must become collective construction.Because Mexico doesn't start on the desks.

Mexico starts in the municipalities.Mexico starts on the street that requires light.Mexico starts on the patrol that must always arrive on time, on the market that struggles to survive, in la madre que pide seguridad para sus hijos, en el joven que sueña con oportunidades, en el agua que debe llegar a cada hogar, en la esperanza de millones de mexicanas y mexicanos.Today I assume with emotion, but above all with a deep sense of responsibility, and I say it clearly, I did not come here to represent any color, I did not come here to represent any ideology, I did not come here to divide, we came here to build.Because when a mayor, a mayor, because when a president, a municipal president, in front of a water crisis.People don't ask what party you come from.

When a community lives in violence, people don't ask what political party the president is.When a community collapses, in a community a avenue collapses, when a neighborhood is flooded, when a family asks for help, there are no colors.There exists only the responsibility that we have together, and that is to serve.That's why this CONAMP has to become the strongest voice of Mexican municipalism.A firm, respectful, institutional voice, but that does not stop being brave.A voice that knocks on all doors, that has to be touched.

A voice that defends those who face Mexico every day.Because for many years it was understood and spoken of the country from above.And very few times it was heard by those who govern from below, in the territory, in direct contact with reality.Today we want to change that.Today we want that municipalism ceases to be seen as the last link of the government and becomes truly the engine of this great nation.because there is no small municipality when it is governed with dignity, because there is no distant municipality when it is governed with love for the people, because there is no forgotten territory when there is will, when there is unity and when there is coordination.

I want to tell you today, mayors and mayors, that todayI'm going to visit, together with the Bureau, your municipalities.We're going to sit at your desks.We're going to listen to your problems.Because Mexico is not understood from an office, we're going to walk the municipalities.Mexico today is understood by walking it.

And if something today needs our country, Es precisamente eso.Más unidad, más coordinación y más visión de Estado.Por eso celebro profundamente que hoy esta organización esté integrada por mujeres y hombres de distintas fuerzas políticas.Porque eso manda un mensaje muy claro a México.Que sí podemos construir acuerdos por encima de las diferencias.Que sí podemos poner a la gente por delante.

Que sí podemos defender juntas y juntos the sovereignty of our country.And on that path, I want to express our institutional support for our president, Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo.

This is what the mayor said.Now, if you allow me to add, this is important.We have underestimated the municipalities a lot.For decades, historically, we have talked about the municipalities, the problems that the municipalities have, the poor security that the municipalities have, and the work that the municipalities do not do.And we always say the problem is in the state government, the problem is in the federal government.But the problem is also in the municipalities.

Y hoy necesitamos que los municipios entiendan esa responsabilidad, el fortalecerse entre ellos, entender que no son entidades solas que están abandonadas y a la deriva, sino que son parte de la institución más grande llamada gobierno federal a través de la municipalidad.Les corresponden bacheos, les corresponde prevención, les corresponden muchísimas tareas, servicios públicos, les corresponden los problemas que más nos afectan.daily, with which we face as citizens every day.And the municipalities have left us a lot to do.Today, CONAM and this confederation of these municipal spaces must be much stronger than ever.so that we all understand that they have a responsibility, that they are not made of adornment, and that they can make very profound transformations, from the parks, from the public roads, from simply doing their job, responding to people and being close to them.

It is not a matter of colors, it is not a matter of parties, it is a matter of Today, Giancarlo Lozano, who will lead the efforts of CONAM, will have to get together with all those municipalities that are all over Mexico, more than 2 ,000 municipalities, so that we can start working and we all know how to work.Let's make parks, let's make lighting, let's not steal from people, let the municipal services be on fire, let the public services be on fire, and get to where no one ever gets.because the sovereignty of this country also defends itself from the municipal level.And that sovereignty begins right there, in the territory, in the sections, in the districts, close to the people.What does this CONAM do?Simply and simply, it is a confederation that unites everyone.

I hope that about unity is also known there.And since I am in that, my beautiful people,

So, talking with many colleagues, I decided to make a report on Sunday, May 31st.But instead of all of us going to the city, In each square of the 32 entities of the Republic, let's connect so that the report can be heard.It's called Rendición de Cuentas, which explains precisely what we are explaining today.Where do we come from?Where did the movement we represent come from?Why is the people happy?

Why is there no divorce between people and government?Because we have to continue strengthening the transformation, and above all, the governments of the people, continue together.Keep walking together and always defend national sovereignty.Because Mexico is not a colony of anyone.We are not a protectorate of anyone.Mexico with a lot of honor and a lot of pride and with a lot of work is a free, independent and sovereign country.

Does that sound good to you?Nos juntamos así a la distancia para que en toda la república podamos celebrar, conmemorar, defender la cuarta transformación de la vida pública.De mi parte, me comprometo, siempre me voy a comprometer, porque es muy importante comprometerse con el pueblo, a siempre tener nuestros principios por delante.No mentir, no rogar y nunca traicionar al pueblo de México.¡Que viva Tabasco!¡Que viva México!

¡Que viva México!¡Que viva México!

We still don't know what the logistics will be in Mexico City.If the president will do it from the National Palace, and from there they will broadcast.If he will be called to another point, I don't know, El Zócalo, because from El Zócalo they are doing the fanfests for FIFA.What is going to happen?That's what we still don't know, but that's what the president said in the morning.

Finally, if I may, I just want to ask you if you can give us a little more detail about this report, which is not a government report, the one on Sunday, but more of an account rendition.

We have been two years, two years already, imagine, since the election on June 2, 2024.Our vision is always to give a report.and in this case we called the public square, but in the 32 entities of the Republic.Give the report and there will be a connection with the screen to know the account return, which we have done in a year and a half of government and since we won the election.And at the same time it is pertinent to inform why this media offensive and also in defense of sovereignty.In Mexico we decide, the Mexicans, no one else.

That's the goal.

Do you already know where you're going to do it?Where are you going to be?What time are you going to do it?

Today in the afternoon I have a meeting to see if we do it from the National Palace or we do it somewhere else here in Mexico City.And the places where the screens would be.

Let's see, let's see what the president says.In the end, how was the logistics and we will be informing you what will happen this May 31, this Sunday, May 31.Let's go with some of your comments.Mayra Laura Horta says, I'm sending you a super chat for 50 pesos.Hi Beme, they're saying that the governor is running away, what can you tell us?I just connected.

Well, it's not that she's going to run away, it's just that she's probably not going to pass to majors from the Constitutional Court, which, by the way, that doesn't mean that the trials don't start.What they are doing is organizing a march.They've been organizing marches in favor of Maria Eugenia Campos, that's for sure.foreign foreignOkay.Okay.

Ay nanita, nos manda un superchat de 50 pesos.Meme, que mal representa Israel Samuel en la mesa de debate de Azucena.Tiene muchas razones para callar a sus oponentes.Muy tranquilo, por eso lo ponen.Pues desconozco por qué lo ponen.Raul Arjona nos manda 129 pesos superchat.

Querida, me estoy de vacaciones y aprovecho para verlos en vivo.Saludos desde Aguascalientes, aunque de pena ajena con todo lo que ha pasado.Mira que yo sigo teniendo ganas, yo sigo teniendo ganas de ir a la Feria de San Marcos con todo y todo que es una...Well, a place that a governor loves, everything is fine, everything is fine.They say here in another of their comments, also the FGR would have to quote the other two CIA agents for operating in national territory, carrying weapons, also the gringos must face Mexican justice, that is another ticket, because it is not as if they arrived alone, they were put in.And the two CIA agents that remain are in the United States, they returned immediately.

He says, so what do we have left?Does that Maru Campos confession have validity or not?There is the interview with the lawyer.Yes, it does.They say here in another of his comments, he is going to turn himself in with the gringos.Mario Eugenia Campos could also be something like what Cabeza de Vaca did.

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