‘If only anyone had warned you guys it was all a lie’: Nicolle on the podcast bros turning on Trump

And you know, I would love to believe our president and our administration, but just like we talked about at the very beginning, everything that has come out has been a bait and switch, complete 180, f***ing lie.

If only anyone had warned you guys that it was all a lie. Hi again, everybody. It's five o'clock now in New York. The man who once insisted he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any of those people, his supporters, now appears determined to put that theory to the test,

because this afternoon, under the 10-ton weight of so many broken promises, too many to count, Donald Trump's MAGA coalition isn't just buckling.

It's literally falling apart in public. It starts but does not end with what's going on in Iran. And yes, while most of the self-professed MAGA crowd have engaged in a month-long game of follow the goalposts

from no new wars to this isn't actually a war, to well, it might be a war, but there aren't any boots on the ground, to whatever the story is that Donald Trump tweets or posts or blurts out, a significant portion of non-MAGA Trump voters are coming to grips with that particular betrayal, among others,

like the economy. Just open the newspaper or drive down the street, and here's what you will see. Financial markets and consumer sentiment dropping sharply. Then there's the price of gas. We don't have to tell you it is soaring in one direction, up, up, up on the doorstep of spring and summer vacation

season. And if you're into reading tea leaves and sneaky economic indicators, consider the state of Las Vegas. Quote, the high rollers are still rolling in, reports the New York Times. But for the tax brackets that don't usually fly

by private jet, those budget-conscious customers appear to be staying away. It is a reality apparent even to prominent figures in right-wing media, people like the gentleman we showed you, right-wing podcaster Sean Ryan, the one you just heard.

Just today, former Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly shared yet another dismal and historically low poll for Donald Trump with her many, many listeners describing it as a quote, five alarm fire, end quote. Meanwhile, another right wing personality and Coulter posted this quote, watching Fox News assure viewers that the Iran war is going super well and Trump is a total stud is like

watching the same network assure viewers that Dominion voting systems rigged the 2020 election and that Trump was the winner." The top reply from Marjorie Taylor Greene to Ann Coulter was, quote, Fox News is now the fake news, brainwashing boomers to support what we voted against." End quote. A new analysis in The Atlantic puts it into context and perspective. Quote, the MAGA faithful are overwhelmingly sticking with the president, not so for everyone else.

A number of new polls show that some of the voting blocs that helped power Trump's 2024 win have lost faith in him. His support among young people has cratered, so has his approval among Latinos. According to one survey, more independent voters disapprove of the president now than they did at any point in his first term. The broad coalition that put Trump back

in the White House no longer appears to exist. So much for shooting someone on Fifth Avenue. That is where we start the hour with Princeton University professor, political analyst Eddie Gleit is here. Also joining us, political analyst, host of the Bulwark podcast, Tim Miller is here. Also joining us, staff writer at the Atlantic,

video podcast host David Frum is here. Tim Miller, I start with you. I was going to say I don't derive any pleasure. I derive immense pleasure in watching all these people who dragged Trump over the finish line in 2024 say, oh, my God, oh, my God, OMG, we don't want this. Because, again, I don't know what's in their heads and hearts. Some of them may actually feel some

responsibility to their listeners. Again, I do not know. but all of them realize that a dude at 33% and dropping is a commercial loser.

Yeah, that's right. On Friday's show, when you were on a well-deserved vacation, Nicole, I told Alicia that I'm granting us as like a never Trump priest, everybody gets five minutes a month of gloating.

I told you so, smiling, and then unfortunately, we have to actually talk and communicate to those folks and offer them a different-

Yeah, like five minutes seems excessive, right? Like, I take your point, and we can't, you can't mock them because like, for whatever the reason, they're not telling the truth, and that's a good thing.

Right, for sure.

And yeah, we did warn them that they shouldn't trust Donald Trump. But it's also true that Trump lied to them and Trump betrayed them. And I think that's an important message for Democrats and anyone in the pro-democracy movement going forward, is that these voters were betrayed by him and that he made them a series of promises that he's not followed through on. He doesn't care about the forgotten man.

He doesn't care about the forgotten man. He doesn't care about prices. He doesn't care about not sending young men to war. What he cares about is his new ballroom and the new armrests on the Kennedy Center. He's been talking about that a lot. And he cares about enriching his family and his kids. And that's just – those are all just facts.

Like, that is what has happened. He's betrayed them. And that's why his numbers are lowering, because some people notice it. I don't think it's that surprising that the last people into the boat are kind of the first ones out and the first ones to notice it. And that was a lot of these kind of Manosphere podcasters, but also younger folks and more working class folks that weren't quite as engaged as the Kamala Harris coalition was people who had legitimate frustrations with, you know, cost of living and had fond, maybe mistaken memories of the pre covid economy.

And that kind of explains it. I think those folks that came in are looking around right now and going, what the heck? And I think that, you know, we're going to continue to see this as the thing. And that's why I'm trying to put a limit on the amount of gloating, because it's going to get worse. And it is going to get worse. Like, even if Trump, as we were talking right now, decided, hey, I'm going to give some sham deal to Iran, you know, I'm going to cut some deal where they get a cut out of the Strada Hormuz and he does some corrupt deal and turns around right now. The long-term ramifications of this, we all lived through this in COVID.

You can only disrupt the supply chains in a global economy so much before there are all kinds of ramifications you can't predict. And if you look and read the news from newspapers around the world, Italy, Korea, Japan, England, people are already feeling real pain and we're feeling it here at the pump, but I think that it's gonna expand beyond that.

And I think that there's gonna be more people jumping on the bandwagon and sounding quite a bit like Sean Ryan sounded in that clip.

I have not been reading the newspapers from Japan and China and around the world, but I do watch basketball. Here's what Charles Barkley had to say in terms of sort of permission structures. And again, I don't know if there is. I mean, Charles Barkley has enough power and enough standing

to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants. But these comments come and they sort of coincide with this moment of unprecedented political weakness for Donald Trump. Eddie, let me play this.

The way some of these other immigrants are getting treated in our country right now is a travesty and a disgrace. I think there is a difference between amazing immigrants and criminal immigrants. And I think what's going on in our country, what we're doing to some of these amazing immigrants is really unfortunate and it's really sad. And that's a great immigrant story. We have a lot of great immigrant stories out there whose stories need to be told.

But some of the stuff that's happening to immigrants in our country right now is really unfortunate and it's really unfair. But immigrants built this country and we should admire them and respect them.

So Eddie, it is one thing to hear that on a political broadcast. And it is another thing to hear it from a candidate. And again, if you were trying to pay attention to Harris and Trump trying to decide who to vote for, only one of the candidates said that, right? It is another thing to hear that from one of the biggest and most powerful and popular voices in sports in our country

in the middle of a broadcast about sports. Your thoughts about what's going on right now.

Right. Against the backdrop of one of the biggest sporting events in the country, we all are still reeling from that UConn-Duke game, as it were. So I think it's really important for us to understand the size of the audience that heard Charles Barkley's words the other day. So I think what we're witnessing, of course, is the crack in Trump's coalition, but we're also seeing kind of the effect of deep-seated worry that, you know, people are feeling that the ground beneath their feet doesn't feel as sturdy, Nicole, because of what's happening at the gas pump,

what's happening in the grocery stores. Their lives seem not to be so certain. And then when we telescope that and try to think about what's going on with Trump's coalition, we've been talking about it for a while, that that coalition has consisted of populists, libertarians, and corporatists. If the populists had any ideology, Nicole, it was kind of an isolationism, a nativism,

and a kind of conspiracy-driven ethic, right? And what was so important about it is that that populism attracted those low-propensity voters, those low-propensity white voters who were alienated, who felt a sense of grievance. That's the source of Donald Trump's power. Now Donald Trump is the man. He's the object of the conspiracy. He's been lying. He's lining his pockets.

And so the folk who have been grifting and the folk who feel this deep sort of alienation, And so the folk who have been grifting and the folk who feel this deep sort of alienation, they are now on the outside calling Trump for who he is.