Jack Smith CHECKMATES GOP as PERJURY TRAP BACKFIRES

MAGA Republicans with Trump's corrupt DOJ tried to set what they thought was the perfect perjury trap for special counsel Jack Smith when he walked into the deposition. But special counsel Jack Smith, he knew better. This guy's a career prosecutor at the top of his game. He smoked out that perjury trap. It backfired on Trump, it backfired on the MAGA Republicans

and they were scared to release that video deposition of Jack Smith. So they dumped it the night of New Year's, the Midas Touch Network got our hands on it, we posted it. It since has gotten millions of views, but I wanna focus on the perjury

trap portion because as you know, the MAGA Republicans at Donald Trump's insistence and urging subpoenaed special counsel, Jack Smith. Now MAGA Republicans like Jim Jordan and James Comer, they were warning Donald Trump. I don't think we actually want to take this guy's deposition. He's smart. He's a top prosecutor, he knows his stuff. It's only gonna hurt you, but Trump said,

you gotta do it, take his deposition. So they subpoenaed Jack Smith and Jack Smith says, hey, can we do it in public? You have unlimited time with me. I'll go in front of the Senate, I'll go in front of the Senate, I'll go in front of the House. It could take multiple days.

Let's do this in public so there's no doubt about what it is that I'm saying. Republicans said, no. Why would we want to do that? We want to speak on state regime media known as Fox and Newsmax and lie about you, but we don't actually want to do this in public because they're going to see what it looks like when someone who hasn't passed the bar, like Jim Jordan, who leads the Judiciary Committee, tries to cross-examine a top federal prosecutor like Jack Smith on these issues.

They don't want those optics. They tried to do it in secret, number one, but then as Jack Smith shows up, he gets a letter an hour before he shows up. Just think about that. From the DOJ, you cannot talk at all about anything relating to volume two of your report that Judge Eileen Cannon is not making public. Volume two is the Mar-a-Lago document case alleging that Donald Trump stole classified information, including potentially nuclear secrets

and other top national security information. And they said, if it's already public, you can talk about it, but if it's not public, you can't talk about it. So Jack Smith's like, it's gonna be a little bit hard to differentiate what you consider

public versus not public. Y'all subpoenaed me to show up. So I'm going to get ostensibly asked questions about it. So I'm going to have to make judgment calls about what it is. So Jack Smith like, why don't we come to an arrangement and Jack Smith or his lawyer, can I agree to say X, Y and Z? Department of Justice says, we're not going to tell

you. We're not going to tell you what you can say or what you can say, but we'll evaluate it later. Special counsel Jack Smith says, well, you know, you've sent your lawyers to go and speak with Ghislaine Maxwell, convicted sex traffickers, and Todd Blanche is signing his name on random pleadings. So if he can do that,

Jack Smith didn't say it exactly the way I'm saying it, but this was the implication.

Why don't you send one DOJ lawyer to show up at my deposition? Have that DOJ lawyer be present. And if you think a question infringes on what you're saying that Judge Eileen Cannon is not letting me talk about, and would you as the DOJ are refusing to let me speak about,

a DOJ lawyer can step in on your behalf and say, we're not gonna let him answer that question. The DOJ refuses to send a DOJ lawyer to be there to do that. So just want to let you think about this, right? An hour before Jack Smith shows up

and you know the DOJ and Trump are coordinating all of this with Jim Jordan and James Comer and the MAGA Republicans in Congress. The MAGA Republicans subpoenaed Jack Smith to show up. Jack Smith says, can I do it in public? Nope, we're doing it in private

on a video deposition of private. Okay, so I'm gonna answer questions. Nope, you can't answer all of the questions. Jack Smith's like, so you're subpoenaing me to speak, but then I can't answer the questions? Exactly.

So what questions can I answer? We're not telling you. You wanna give me guidance? No. Oh, okay. It's a bit odd. I mean, that's what's going on. So I don't care what political party you're from. You should look at what I just explained to you

and be like, that's not cool. Like that's not right. So let me show you the video as Jack Smith and his lawyer call it out. And they want the DOJ letter to be put into the record. There's about five to 10 minutes more of this than what I'm gonna show you.

I'm just gonna show you a small clip here, but Jack Smith's lawyer does a meticulous job laying out the timeline, calling out the perjury chap.

Watch this, let's play it.

According to the Justice Department, discussion of volume two of the special counsel's reports and any information or conclusions in Volume 2 or in drafts email affirming its view that Judge Cannon's order applies to Mr. Smith and that it precludes him from disclosing any non-public information that may be contained in Volume 2, including, but not limited to, interview transcripts, search warrant materials, business records, toll records, video footage,

records obtained by grand jury subpoenas, attorney-client communications, and potential Rule 404B evidence. This restriction significantly limits Mr. Smith's ability to discuss the classified documents case. Nevertheless, Mr. Smith is committed to doing his best to answering questions consistent with the department's guidance. And I asked that, uh, that email from the department of justice, uh, that was sent, uh, earlier this morning, be made part of the record.

You know, I can't read minds, but Jack Smith, you know, is sitting there saying, y'all sent me here and now you don't want to hear the truth. That's what you're doing. You sent me here. Now you're blocking what I can say.

Okay, I know what you're doing.

Let's bring in Harry Lippman from the Talking Feds YouTube channel, the Talking Feds podcast and the Talking Feds YouTube channel, the Talking Feds podcast and the Talking Feds sub stack. Harry, it was clearly a trap to try to go after Jack Smith. Jack Smith caught it. Jack Smith testimony was powerful and compelling. And I think the GOP were right to try to warn Trump,

you don't want this guy's depo. They're wrong to do this from a principle and values perspective. But I think their worst fears were realized when Jack Smith very calmly and confidently went through the facts. But talk about the perjury trap first, then your overall feelings here, Harry. Yeah. And so really, let's start there.

These are malicious bastards who this is not obviously about keeping him from revealing information that one-two punch that you just detailed Ben you must not do any of these things oh but we're not gonna tell you what you can do and why there's only one possible reason it's not exactly a perjury trap it's like some kind of ethics trap and they want to say aha aha, after the testimony and it's true. They didn't lay a glove on him and he was so understated, quiet, like a by the book prosecutor and you're right. It was, he outmatched them at every answer. But man, let's not forget how perilous the waters they put him in were.

Because who's gonna decide, imagine that by a bare majority, the Republican House or Jim Jordan's cronies want to refer him for something and they do it and it then goes to Pam Bondi or to you know then it's her and their decision only whether or not to either try to sanction him for violating DOJ rules that they wouldn't tell him about in the first place or even as you say some kind of perjury trap and the idea that they wouldn't give, he said, okay, I hear your interest,

so tell me, if that's what they cared about, that's what they would have tried to protect. Now in the event, I actually, I know you're many of the Miners he listened to all eight hours. I can't say I've done that, but I listened to a lot. And as predicted, he was meticulous, understated in classic kind of just the facts, prosecutor kind of guise. He really, they did not lay a glove on him,

even about volume two. Oh, and by the way, then the part of the whole kind of trap they're laying is Judge Cannon's order applies. Did you hear the date of that order? January 2025, a year ago. What's been happening with that order for a year? Nothing whatsoever. She just simply put the order in and has waited a year. Now finally she said what she could have

said a week later. Okay, it's too, I can't keep it bottled up any longer, however, Trump himself as an amicus, because the case is dismissed against him as we know, and the two co-defendants can now bring in arguments why it should still stay under wraps, that itself a side point here, but it's an outrage. There's no interest on their parts and a lot of interest on the part of the people

of the United States and knowing what happened for these cases that won't go forward because of the happenstance of his election. But it's just been under wraps for a year for no good reason. They cite it and then most revealingly, they, we will not tell you. You're so right that he handled it with perfect

aplomb. And, uh, it was the very quiet of it. It, you know, very much the prosecutor's credo of under promise and over deliver every sentence. This guy was totally prepared and he was so quiet. They several times had to ask him to raise his voice. That was his style here. So he completely tied them in knots. But I just wanna say, one little slip here or there

they could have really come down on him and they would have had on the other side of it. The DOJ as their allies having nothing to do with the DOJ's interest, but just looking to screw him. He faced the question straight out, and I'm sure you heard that in the eight hours. Do you think he's gonna, I have no doubt no doubt he would like, that he would like to enact some political retribution about me.

He's deemed unconcerned about it, but obviously aware of it. So it wasn't such an, even with his skill and his experience and the absence of same by his interlocutors on the other side, it would have just taken a little slip. He didn't make it and he really came through. And now the question's gonna be, will there be, as the minority wants to have, like Jamie Raskin, some kind of public presentation, as he's been

asking for, where he can really drive home, you know, as he did here. He was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. There was every investigative step including the phone records of the members of Congress which they completely misunderstood absolutely by the book. The guys got it covered and the headline here was, or one of the headlines, he believes that Trump would have been convicted with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt as if that's some big falling-from-the-sky conclusion. Those are the principles of federal prosecution. You cannot bring a case unless you

believe it or that used to be true because now we see case after case where give me an effing break. No way the Department of Justice believes it's likely beyond a reasonable doubt they'll convict Comey or Tish James or all the people who they couldn't even get true bills about. So that confidence is nothing more than the application of federal principles and protection against defendants like Donald Trump, that you not just do it either for nasty reasons or just, ah,

we'll roll the dice, see what happens. You must have developed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt and you must really believe you're gonna get a conviction. And he did it quietly and just very calmly, never lost his cool, cool as a cucumber all the way through, understated. He foiled them completely and yeah, no no big surprise that this comes out at what what was it 5 o'clock on New Year's Eve? Well, it also now lives forever

on the Midas Touch YouTube channel and anybody can watch it and the way we clipped it and had it presented. It was like a New Year's special and so you can't do those dumps anymore on New Year's and think it's not going to be viewed. And I expect both our highlight video as well as the full eight hours really to continue to grow as a historical record for years and years to come. Everybody, thanks for watching and make sure you subscribe to Harry Littman's YouTube channel. It's called Talking Feds. Subscribe to Harry Littman's sub stack, Talking

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