“JUJUR KADANG CAPE NIKAH SAMA PINGKAN MAMBO!”

What made you decided to do something? I had a good feeling about something You wanted to rent a house? Yes I was told that I was a loser, but I was not I was already famous, I was making money

I was the one who balanced your mom's thought pattern which is shy, which is like a skank I made a scenario like that so that they think your mom is not low Your mom was praised by many people in the past What do you want to say to Michelle? Are you? Are you?

Arya Khan. Yes, hello. How are you? I'm good. Do I call you Arya Mambo? I usually call you Arya.

Arya Singkong is no longer here? Singkong is still here. But for now, it's not stable, it's going up and down. But now you're not famous anymore, you were viral because of the Singkong seller area. Now you're more of a TikToker, right? Yes, I was actually in the TikToker category.

Since the Singkong era? I'm a TikToker. Since you were a teenager? Before I started my career as a teenager, I did some content with my son. Oh, yes. So, I was a TV personality. I was famous in the year of 2022. What was the content? I went to work with my son.

I'm a father and a mother. Yes. I'm taking care of my son. You're a single parent too. By the way, where is your son now? Now my son is with his mom. I gave him to his mom because he lived with me for 7 years. Why? I mean, you used to be in the same content Then suddenly when you're still single, he's not Why is he not suitable for being single?

No, I've been with Pingkan and Jihan for 2 years So I feel like I'm an egoist father

Why?

Because my ex-girlfriend is not married yet Eh, not married yet, already married But she doesn't have a child yet So I decided to... She's in 4th grade. She's in 5th or 6th grade.

So she can feel living with her mom.

I see.

But is it safe for Mambo to be a mother? It's safe. She's fine. Okay. Arya, to be honest, you're the one who invited Aryria to the podcast, right? So, she suddenly WhatsApp me, but I think before I posted it last night,

Michelle and, who was the other guy? Rezel. Rezel, yes, before that. So, it's not because I posted it, then Aria contacted me. No, Aria contacted me in the afternoon. In the afternoon.

She said, Kamel, your podcast has been a while. We've been doing it for a while. I miss talking to you. And then I said, Arya wants to tell you something. There are some things I want to fix. He said that.

Sometimes, there's a duration on TV. I'm not satisfied with the way I talk. Yes, we can do a longer podcast. Okay, then so Monggo. What was the area that you suddenly WhatsApp Mel, and then you said, I want to do something.

What do you want to do? About a good trick in me. Like Pansos, or with the word nafka Mokondo So actually with the viral of Pinkan, Ngamen on this road He has been Ngamen on the road since before he met me

The time in America, the viral one. I remember. She already had a mental to that. Okay. After that, I honestly, I was a fan of Pinkanambo when I was still in school. Me too.

Because I saw her as a singer, has a character that cannot be copied. Agree. I personally like him. I used to be his fan. And I didn't know that I was dating him. This is life. We don't know. Long story short, we were very viral back then.

When a Mambo singer got married to Juragan Singkong, and got married for 100,000 rupiahs. It was very viral. I met him on TikTok. Did you play it? I met him on TikTok. At first, we were playing. Were you guys chatting?

We were doing live-chatting. We were doing challenges and chatting. He was usually mad at me when I was talking or teasing him. He was curious about me.

He was tired of me.

He was curious about who I was. He told me himself. I didn't a singer. He told me himself. I don't exaggerate. When he saw my life, he said, this guy is so cool. He fought for his child.

He laughed, he was not shy. He danced while he was selling. He respected me. He DMed me, he gave me. Then he DM me and gave me his WA number. Sorry, the first time he gave you his WhatsApp number, was it a ping-pong ball or you asked for it?

Ping-pong ball. I wouldn't have the thought to like a ping-pong ball. Logically, I'm an ordinary person. I'm from the village. I approached an artist. Oh, it's impossible.

You're not confident. You were not confident.

I was not confident. Then, she DMed me. She asked me to do a collab with her. This is my office number. But it was her personal number. That was the reason.

Modus, ya wa. She waited for me to go to the office. After that, she went to the office with me. To the point, she liked me right away. Right away? She respected me. to the point that she liked me right away Right away?

Respect, she liked me So the one who started the conversation first, was Pingkan? Yes, because I'm a bit shy She knew it herself, this guy is a bit shy I have to be close to him, said Pingkan So she was the one who approached me

She came to my Singkong farm without me telling her She got the info from the lab, he lived in Sepatan district. Where is Sepatan? Sepatan, Tanggerang, which is in Maok. That's far. From BSD.

You were approached by him? He approached my farm. I went back to the shop, I slept, I didn't see him. So he went back again. Next, we met there. When you met her,

it felt like you met your idol from high school. It was like a dream. But I said, how come she's in front of me? I used to love her

on TV. It was impossible to meet her. I once saw her concert. I don't remember where it was. Because we were far away from each other. It was just a short time when she was still skinny.

Now she's fat. Okay, so I want to ask you. You married Pinkan Mambo. Honestly, this is actually to increase the viewers of TikTok and the content creators? Or is it to make a profit? Or you fell in love, you like each other, and this is a real marriage?

I married him for real. For real? For real. I'm the one who was cheated on.

Why?

Okay, Pinggan Mambo is an artist. He has a name and he's famous. I have millions of followers on TikTok. I have 15 accounts that were blocked. If I didn't get blocked, I would have 4 million followers. You were blocked and you kept going?

I got more followers. You got blocked and you kept going? I made my fans ask me again. I made them keep asking. He used to have a few live shows. Maybe 100, 200. He was popular if he only sang. When he did a live show with me,

he got more viewers. I met him and we in a live show together They were happy with us and Aria They were dating He was already in love with her

He was already in love with her

So I... So I... He asked me to marry him fast? Because... Every night, he called me and told me to play at his house. He told you to play at his house? Every night.

Agree? I was like... Should I drive or ride a motorcycle? Whatever. I'll just ride a motorcycle, so it's faster. It's dangerous to drive a car.

Sometimes I ride a motorcycle, sometimes I took my car We lived in the same apartment I played with him I went home early in the morning That's it? I talked to Rachel

Oh, Rachel?

Yes, sometimes we were at McD But I didn't talk to Michelle I didn't talk to Michelle At that time I knew her, but I didn't with Michelle. I didn't hang out with Michelle. At that time, I knew her, but she wasn't with Michelle. So you were with another girl? Yes, I was talking with Rachel at McD,

with the kids, eating, watching TV together, playing PS with Rachel. Are you close with Rachel? I'm close. She's like a close friend to me. When we talk, she's like, yes, yes, yes

Oh, not like that? She's like a friend No, I'm more like that So, it's like, my daughter is like a best friend So, I go home early in the morning My mom is like, what are you doing?

I go straight to the kitchen and cook I live with with my kid

Oh, because you're a single parent

Yes, because I'm alone I told her that I can't go out everyday She wants to go out everyday Oh, so she's like a model when she's in a relationship No, she's a pervert She's a pervert

She said, why? Because she's a lover, I have to see them everyday I was like, why? I have my own business I explained to my mom, she was thinking about this and that I'm going home early in the morning Oh, your mom was thinking about this too?

Yes She was like, what are you doing? You're going to get in trouble My mom was angry So we decided to get married Who did you talk to? Pingkan.

Not Arya? No. We decided to get married so that you won't be bullied by your mom. But it's not that fast. The man said it's not that fast. I said that.

I should talk to my parents first She's afraid that I'm not her son I was confused at that time I like her and I've been a fan of her since I was a kid We got married in an apartment But my mom didn't know.

Oh, she didn't tell you? I called my ex-girlfriend from Google. She came and said, this is a true story. That's why I want to tell you in this podcast. This is my real story.

Then I got married to her. She wanted to practice with me. Oh, she wanted to practice with me Oh she wanted to practice Islam? I asked, did you ask her to convert to Islam or did she want to do it herself? No, I said this, we have different beliefs But if you marry me, I want to be a Muslim

Oh you already said that. Yes, I said, okay, as a Muslim. But if you want to go back, that's your right and not my responsibility. The important thing is that in front of religion, I will marry as a Muslim, so I won't be a jinnah. Okay. You can go there, if you want to go back or whatever, that's your business. That's the first.

The second, I remarried. Why? At my mom's house. So my mom knows. So she knows that I married a Muslim. Even though I married a Muslim before.

In a closed apartment. No one knows. So you didn't get married by setting up? No. So, Arya married Pingkan Mambo

because you like each other. Yes. So, Arya, how long have you been married to Pingkan? We're planning to be together for 3 years. Wow, that's long.

We broke up, then we got back together. So, you got married? Yes, we did. We were like a divorcee In our house, if we had a fight, we would break up

And we would get back together again in a week So you broke up often? Yes, it happened often It happens a lot. People say that it's annoying when they hear you talk. It's like you're not connected, or you're being told off. Especially by the netizens. But is it because of the personal branding that you create?

Or is it because people assume that you're already in trouble? Some people assume that. Many people say that. Kamel asked Arya, what do you feel married to Pink for 3 years, what do you feel? Are you confused? Confused. Confused?

Yes, I'm confused. Her way of thinking is different from other normal people. And I know that. So, for example, her way of want to be regulated by others. He doesn't want to be given opinions. He thinks he is himself.

He doesn't care what kind of donut he wants to make. He is himself. Because the way of thinking is not like the way of ordinary people. For example, we are discussing about viral issue, Ngamen. Ngamen on the street. At that time, when my daughter Pingkanluk was sick, she was brought to Singapore Honestly, we were broke

We owed a lot I sold one of my car units For what? To go to Singapore Back and forth This is the real story

I sold one of my car units Even though my daughter is not my flesh and blood I don't care Because when I married a woman who has a child It's already in my business category As long as I can

And then The self-worth of a man Martabak, Martabak again, Martabat, Martabat men are like this Even though we have a rich wife than her husband Still, the fact is that men work True, I agree No, men can't have a richer wife

Men just don't want to work. My wife is rich, she can't do that. We are stepping out of the door, we have to bring money home with halal. Even if it's 10 thousand, you want to clean, you want 50 thousand, you have to. Meaning business?

Business, you have to. For example, like Melanie and her husband. Even though Melanie has a bigger business, her husband still has to work. Right. The same statement I said yesterday was taken.

Oh, yes. Okay, so when people say that Arya wants to rent a condo, I'm just trying to distract the netizens. Because you've said it before in your live. Yes, I'm the one who made that segment. Why did I do that?

For example, there are two. Yesterday, when the viral of Donut was on, it was praised a lot. I was told, I have my own fans. I have thousands of fans. Even if they're not with me. Even without the plate. Even without the plate.

So they know me. When Donut was viral, they were praising it. Until they left, no one was happy. They were like,

Donut is expensive, and all that. I cried. I cried. I felt it. I cried. I felt sorry for my wife. She was being criticized.

Even though she wanted to do business. At first, she made donuts. Not because she wanted to sell it. She wanted to make money. To make money while singing. To feed her children.

The audience said, what did she make? Donuts? Was it CO? Was it sold? Well, he was a BU.

Yes.

So, I was sold to him. Right? I didn't care about anything. The important thing was to make money. Money for your children. Yes, to buy milk for my children.

So, when he was criticized by the netizens, you were also sad? I sat on the balcony at 1pm, I still remember it was 2pm I thought I should stop doing donuts I was so frustrated, I was being insulted I said, if you stop here, you are not the Pingkan Mambo that I know I said, where are you?

I was being insulted, I was dancing on the street I was using d you? I was praised for dancing on the street, using duster, being insulted. I proved it. Because in fact, netizens and haters are the most rejected fans. They are curious, they want to know. One day, they will idolize you. At first, you were praised. I said, keep going.

So, he got hit mentally. Yes, that's when I joined. To neutralize the netizens. That's my role. But that's my initiative. Not to be told. That's my initiative.

I joined, I didn't defend Pinkan. I know that people bully is not a violent person If a bully is a bully to us, we make him a bully again by entertaining him So it's not like, why are you doing this to my wife? No, it's funny So here's the concept, you all tens of thousands, don't and my wife fighting? No, it's funny. So, here's the concept. All of you, tens of thousands, don't praise my wife.

I'm the only one who praises her. Just think of me as a husband who represents the netizens. That's my marketing. What do you do? Like this. The donut is so hard.

The donut is like this. So, the audience's reaction was funny. Instead of you saying, it's delicious, why are you saying that to my wife? That's a bad name. That's your strategy?

So, the donut was flooded. I was praising the fried banana, he said the banana donut tasted like tears, I was praising, damn, I'm gonna eat the fried banana, he said it's like a donut, I was like, damn, fried banana, it's heaven, he bought it, he's dead. If you want to buy fried banana, Mambo said it's heaven,

so you're dead if you eat his fried banana. So I was kidding. Where did you get that idea? It's natural, I didn't make it. Because I used to had thousands of viewers. Since the year 2022, Mandilumpur, I was already famous.

So you already know what my viewers like. I know, I know. I saw a live clip on TikTok, you were walking, M Mambo was rolling around, and you were like, I don't know, like being pushed,

and then you fell. That's,

poor you, my man, you're done, right? The one who was attacked was you, right? Did you set it up so that people would be like, like Mambo, or were you harsh to Mambo?

I did it myself so they don't insult me, just leave it to me. So I made a scenario like this, he's playing on the street, it's his wish. Because of this, why don't I stop him from playing on the street?

Okay, now I say this, why I don't stop her from playing on the street?

Okay, now I say this, I can't make her happy yet. In terms of material, my lifestyle is different from her. Even the way I go out is very different. With her buying this and that, her's far from the point of need. I feel that she's not happy enough. But I support her.

Whatever you do, I support you. So that you can make more money. So that you can have more because you need more than me. She has 5 kids. Okay, so Michelle said that... ...you're downgrading, this is her view...

...you're downgrading, you're a diva... ...and she feels sorry for you because of your mom. And according to her, this downgrading... ...and being a man on the street is because of... ...the influence of her husband, Arya.

Yes.

So, I've been dancing on the street since I was a kid. I'm famous for it. And before he knew me, he had danced in Megdi, in Lampu Merah. He had? When I met him, did he have a business? No.

He didn't had a business. He said no. He said he used to sell fried bananas, sew clothes, etc. But when he met me, he was only a TikToker. He was only a live streamer. So when I met him, I asked him, you can't just play TikTok, you must have a lot of business. You don't believe me, I just play TikTok every day.

It turns out that when I investigated, I met him, it turned out to be true. The income is from TikTok. So if he goes down the road, is it because of his own will or the area that told him to? So when I went to Singapore, I have sacrificed a lot of money And when I sang at home, the audience didn't go up, the account was small I said this, he also knows the knowledge Where TikTok if you want to go up fast, you have to play hard on the street.

Oh, I see. Yes, that's the trick. I told him to try it, to play and sing on the street. If my account got blocked, I made a new account, I just clicked on the street and it went up. So you gave him a way in, but you didn't tell him?

No. So you give him a chance, but you don't ask him to do it? No, because he has a strong mentality, he can do anything. He likes to challenge people. He can't be like, he's like me, I like to challenge. So he wants to go up and up If he does this, he has already done this That's his principle

So now, it's like a job, right? Like a job, like an office Like an office worker, right? What time does he leave for work? Like this time, 10 o'clock

He's already going to work?

He's already going there, and then he's going to work What time did he start to sing? Around 10 am He started to sing? He started to sing and then he started to sing At 1 am he started to sing At 3 am he closed the door And then he started to sing And then he started to sing again

How many hours did he sing? 4-5 hours Non-stop? Yes, but he took a break for 2 hours And then he rest for 2-3 hours I saw a break for 2 hours, then I rest for 2 hours, then I continue. I saw a notice on TikTok, if I'm not mistaken, that you don't have a friend, right?

Yes, because I have a job.

What do you do?

I take her to my Singkong's park, then I do the content. So you do the one who's in charge of the content? No, it's different. When I'm done with the content, I'll come and visit her. Then I'll go in there to add more sound effects for her. There's a sound effect where Arya sings. I'll add it for her. Sometimes she'll give it to me.

Hey, you're the one who sang. I'll transfer it. It's up to you. I'll just open. That's how people are. So, the area doesn't always watch you because you have other things to do. There are two assistants to take care of him. Oh, there are. So, he's not alone.

But, do you have a fear? Because the road is... The area understands, right? The road is hard, there are many strange people sometimes. And he's going around with a short skirt. Is it the area that tells you to wear a short skirt? No, I never told her anything She's the one who wants to do it? Yes, she's the one who wants to do it When you're not with her, do you feel scared of being hit or sexually abused?

Because there's someone who's watching over me I told her everything, from the back, you can see everything without her knowing So how many times a day did she play on the street? Every day Every day. Every day? From 1 to 5, he went home.

He relaxed at night. Not at night, but on weekends? On weekends, yes. If he's bored, he'll go out. If he's bored on Sunday, he'll go out. It depends.

At that time, we were really chasing our target. How long has he been out? He's been here for almost a month. How long have you been on the road? I've been here for almost a month. A month? First, I was in BSD. Then I was in Sepatan, Viral, Entertainment.

Then I was in BSD. And this one too. But the thing that blew up was when I was in front of the district. A lot of people were recording. The thing that blew up was And he was rolling it. Was he the one who gave the idea or he did it himself? No, he was a great person.

He was a smart marketer. He was looking for the gift. It's different from me. If he asked for it, he got it fast. He sold sadness. Milk for the kids.

That's it. If I did it, I was a man. I couldn't sell my sadness. I'm someone who is given by my audience. No matter what, you do it. I pretend to imitate her style.

When I'm in a big show, I cry. I sing a woman's song. I buy milk for my kids My viewers laugh I'm a man and a woman So How much money do you earn in a month?

I can earn 30 million rupiahs a day A day? From 1 to 5 Sometimes 20, sometimes 25 Sometimes 10

Let's make it 15 Or 20 How many days a week? 6 days a week 120 million 120 x 4

Wow, that's a lot of money But, it needs a lot Because he has 5 kids Here's the thing I don't agree with him If he said, I understand Michelle is still in school

I understand My kid is grown up and he opened his voice Because he saw a pinkan mambo is a diva A singer, Papa Natas Why can he be like that? That's human, I can understand that.

Who doesn't want their mother to be like that? Everyone doesn't want that. But let's put it the other way around. Pinkan is an artist, but she wants to be a TikToker. So the world of artists was lost. He thought it was lost.

So he wanted to go there. So, those who said that the Mambo fish was reduced, there was no job, you were wrong. Wrong. I said this.

Now, what's the difference when he sings, playing on the street, is it a concert show? Because he's just showing off. Yes, it's a concert. The difference is that some people watch it directly, and some watch it online.

When he performs, the audience will be surprised. Isn't that a kind of promotion? It's like a promo and... How do you say it? When an artist is paid, they use... Like a sponsor. Yes, a sponsor. That's it. All artists are paid...

But many people say, why doesn't he sing at a cafe? Or at a wedding? I'm sorry, but I think many people think that you're better at singing at a gangsta level and you're still used to it because your voice is so powerful.

Why do you have to go to a wedding? I'll explain why I have to go to a wedding. Because, she told me, I also talked to her, why don't you sing in a cafe?

Basically, people are all evil. What do you mean?

I mean, I don't like to be humiliated. Why do I have to sing 10-20 million in cafes I had to leave my child and all kinds of things But you left your child on the street? Yes, the way I offered it

There are words like this You're already dead, you don't sing anymore Just accept it You mean you don't want to accept it? You've already had a career Her heart was hurt Actually, if she's good I accept it. You don't accept it? It hurts her.

If she's nice, I can help her with 5 million. I see. Because there are many people who can help her. She still gave me the price 10 years ago. It was like 70 or 50.

But, the way you offered was good. Don't hurt her. she doesn't like that. It's better if I play TikTok, than I'm like that. Self-esteem.

Okay, now we switch. We understand that the road is actually the plate that you want to be alone. Arya is just, if you want, I support. Because Arya also feels that she is not able to meet all of Ping's needs. And that's how I work. Well, you're in the same boat.

With your daughter. Why is it that until yesterday, Michelle came, right? And she said she hasn't talked to her mom for 6 months. She's been disappointed with her mom. She's not angry anymore, but she's like, it's up to her mom. Until she not angry anymore, but she's like, just leave it to her mom.

Until she feels like, maybe not just with Arya, because Pink has been married a few times, right? In her opinion, her mom is a great person, hard worker, but the problem is always a coward.

And if there's a man with a child, her mom always chooses her mom's man over her children. What do you think? It's not true.

Not true? Yes. Why is it not true, Arya?

She...

Like this... With me, she's more of a pro-child. Really? Yes. Than her husband. From your point of view, why?

What's your POV?

Because, his purpose in life is to have a child I even said this You, don't pamper your child too much You, don't ever follow your child's wishes Remember, one day when he grows up, he will leave you.

You just be normal, don't give too much love to the child. Later, one day you fall, they don't understand the meaning of the pleasure that you give. He knows it's good what you give.

Your position is holding money. he knows you buy toys, shoes, millions of phones, etc. You buy everything But remember you have to have a brake Okay, the first one you said, Rezul Yes You seem to be just right

He's just a logo

Oh okay

Why isn't it right with Michelle? I've been with him since the beginning, We were close before, I tried to get closer to her She had a problem with her mom, I didn't know So she got back at me That has nothing to do with Aria? Yes, she got back at me

After that, I got a problem I was a man Maybe she thought I was a man, they will think I'm a man I'm the one who is called a pansos Why should I be a pansos with your mom? I've been famous for a long time

I've been making money When your mom got married to me People who don't know how to play the pingpong came back With me I'm the one who balanced your mom's thinking pattern Who is shy, who is like a brat I follow the one who balanced your mom's thinking pattern which is too much, like a chip

I followed the chip's pattern If I'm right, it doesn't fit The couple is not as frequent I made a scenario like that So what? They think your mom is not low So it feels like your mom is a fan

In the past, your mom be criticized by many people. Because she didn't have a good communication. It's true that my mom didn't have a good communication. But I made it. So it's funny. So it's a good communication.

So I met the bottle and the lid. So many fans of my mom. Because if the area is still with our normal way of thinking. It can't be, sis. It doesn't work. We entertain the fall. So that it's entertaining.

Even if I'm called a pansos, Isn't it that men and women benefit each other? I'm pansos with Pingkan. Pingkan is a pansos with me. Because I'm a TikToker. Okay, he's an artist. We are pansos with each other and benefit each other. Where does the money go? Isn't it for the family?

For the kids, we can buy a house, a car. But Michelle said that she's been living alone in a big city like Jakarta for 6 months, even from the age of 17. So, I also talked to her yesterday. Even if she has a weakness, she'll talk to her mom. Now, let's talk about the cost. I'm asking her, is it wrong to spend 300-400 thousand a day?

Not a month, but a day. It's just for the kitchen. For example, 400,000 or 300,000 That's the money I have to spend To feed him and his kids I'm a rich man

Even though he's not my flesh and blood I'm just a delivery man If we give that much money to the public It means we're responsible to the delivery man There's a statement that Ary money to the public, it means we are responsible to the children of Sambung. Oh, there's a statement that Arya only gives 300 thousand. Yes, that's daily.

Oh, not monthly. When I have money and she has money, we are free to use it. If she wants to use my money, please. If I want to use her money, please. But Arya, do you feel that from the beginning you married Pinkan, Michelle didn't like it, she didn't agree with you getting married? At first, yes.

But then it all went well? Yes, in the end we tried to be patient, so that she would agree with me marrying her mom. In the end, our relationship started to get better. Like a trio, right? Yes, it got better. We're good friends. You're in a team of three. Right.

There's a pro. He's so good with his mom. So, you broke up because of your mom? Yes, because of her. Not because of Arya? But, for example,

your son is far away, and he's disappointed with his mom. Do you talk to him? Do you tell him to just let your kid go? Because he's still a teenager. Actually, I always talk to him

about what to do, he has a life, etc. Pinkan's answer is like that? Yes, I've tried, but he's far away. The second one,

he paid for all the apartments. Like, this is the house now, this is Michelle's apartment, Rachel's apartment. All of that is paid for. Michelle's car, her mom paid for it. Rachel's car, her mom paid for it. And then, all the employees' debts, for example, will be paid again.

Before that, the children's schools that want to register for hundreds of millions. So, it's different, because Michelle said that since she was 17 years old, she has been financially independent. Maybe from around that time, since the recession. Since the recession, she was looking for her own money, like from endorsements, or from the previous cases. She got some income from endorsements, and when she came back to me,

her mom gave her some money. But her mom always gave her money. Like, this is for the sales, for the transfer. Sometimes, she didn't answer me. I just kept quiet. But Ping did type,

this is 100 thousand, what do you want to buy? I talked to my mom, I told him to shut up. But he said, I have 100.000 rupiahs, what do you want to buy? I told him to shut up. I asked him, what are you doing? He said, I'm transferring 100.000 rupiahs to you.

I asked him, did you say thank you? He said, no. I told him to shut up. That's how he is. But he's never been like this? He's six months away from his son. He misses him and he's always there.

How is the son? Because he's alone. Well, he's not answering my calls. I'm trying to find out how he's doing. I asked him, is he okay? He said, he's okay? He said, come here.

Like yesterday, the issue of Eid, invitation.

How was that?

Every year, if it's Eid, I go to my house. We have a meeting, then I go to my relatives. And it doesn't have to be talked about. Routine. It doesn't have to be talked about, it's a routine. It doesn't have to be like, hey, it's Eid, it's Eid. You should understand.

It should be the young people who talk to their parents, where do you want to go on Eid? To Arya's house or what? Or to your mother's house, the one in Cipete or Nyerere? It should be like that. I understand, I understand the children. Okay, a little bit more. Aria, you made a statement on TikTok,

someone said that I'm a congenital, just let it be, as long as the mother still loves me. Why did you post that? What do you mean? You said that there's a congen a lesbian, who's mad at you You said that Michelle told you that she doesn't like to downgrade her mom

Even if she doesn't like me, I accept it It's okay I'm back to the plate. If your kid doesn't like me, what do you want? Do you want to continue with me or not?

But if you want to continue with me, that's it. This is it, your kid doesn't like me. So what do I want? But we try to take his heart So that for example, understand

Can think in an adult way again Are you happy to marry Pingkan for 3 years? If you say happy, I'm happy If you say no, I'm happy, I'm happy. If they say no, I'm confused sometimes. But sometimes I'm confused with their different way of thinking. But here I've understood for the past 3 years.

Oh, I see. So, it's like this. I'm not surprised. But if you talk to each other, you get along. Even she... Kieran said this on TV. I was not surprised. But if you talk to each other, you get along? Actually, he... Kieran said this on TV. Pinkan, if you are not...

If your husband is not Arya, you will get divorced in a day. I can't. Yes, because Arya... Arya can understand you. She can understand you with your weirdness.

Because I think I'm like this too. So I understand what she feels. Okay, because Arya is actually normal. Normal. I mean, strong, normal. The way she talks, the way she interacts, everything.

And actually Arya is still young, especially now she's viral. There are many girls who are like hackers to Arya. They see her as a weird woman, or with her pinkan statement. Maybe Arya is like, what are you talking about? But you try to balance it so that she's not judged. Are there girls who approach Arya,

like they already know you and Pinkan, but still... DM you, or what? Ask you out? A lot. A lot? Even hundreds, maybe thousands.

Really? But I never look at their DMs. I never look at them. Because for me, if I'm already married, then it's enough. Because if a girl is beautiful, there's no end to it. So, I think what I'm thinking now is how to maintain this marriage. And we think that today we get the money, the fortune that we are looking for for our children.

So, you don't want to be a burden to your children?

No.

Okay.

But are you tired of getting married to a fish? With the way you communicate? Well, at first, yes.

At first, you were shocked, right?

Yes, I was really tired. But then I got jealous. I lost my phone a little bit. I was like, I lost my phone, I was going everywhere I was talking nonsense, I was shy, I was like this and that I was like that

But after I came here, I was like That's life That's how people are That's the answer So if I want to change, you can't. That's the character.

But if you're on TV, and he talks about having a company, in the sky, etc. Do you feel ashamed? He thinks he's like that. So, he...

People say, 50 companies are in the brain. So, like this, he has a lot of ideas, I will do this, I will do that. So, he thinks in his brain, his thoughts are like, I will happen. So, the speech is a prayer for him. Actually, it's an affirmation, right? Affirmation, sure, I can.

But actually, your wife is great. I mean, people say she's the ultimate version of a woman. What she does can make people go viral. Because a lot of people want to go viral, and of course, it can go viral. And I think your marriage is also good.

But one thing, maybe Arya can tell you, like the donut, it's been cooked for a long time. I don't know about donuts, I don't know about the taste. It's just fast-track, the price is crazy.

But Pingkan likes to shoot the price. That's right. So sometimes people become like, why is the price so high?

Because he thinks donuts are viral. So, you were like, why is the price so high?

Because he thought the donuts were viral. He ordered a lot of donuts. And the staffs were few. I paid the big money first. The important thing is the money was liquid. That's what he thought.

He was so stupid. He didn't think it could be a long business. Now it's viral, I just go for it. But it's natural, it's never made. He doesn't want to go viral because of money. No, honestly.

I don't have anything with him. People say, ah, go viral. Now it's like this. What's the point of going viral? You're invited to TV, the price is not that high. It's cheaper than TikTok.

It's more expensive on TikTok if we're really focused. What's the point? What we need is that we get a lot of coins on TikTok. What do I do? If it's viral, it because I'm an artist. But if you want to be famous, you have to eat donuts.

If you want to be famous, you have to be famous. What do you want to do after this? I can't do that. I can't be famous. Just be natural. I just have to do it.

After I made Donut Terduk, the customers were not happy. The donor was a bit broke at that time Because he went to Singapore After he went to Singapore, we had a lot of money to treat his son And then, God gave us a lot of blessings Because we intended to give health to his son When we became viral, we're blessed by God

That's how it is So people can't just make a donut and go home No, it's not like that What would you like to say to Michelle? For Michelle, I understand if you don't like me I'm not a big businessman, I'm not an artist

I'm just an ordinary person, a low-class person A tiktoker who makes money just for fun I don't have a lot of money, and I don't have a big business. Maybe if I marry someone other than an artist, people will think I have a rich husband. Because I married Pingkan,

because he has more needs than me. He has a lot more more than me. Because of the lifestyle, the way of thinking, the way he spends his money, because he doesn't like to save. His way of thinking is different.

He saves money by buying things. If he has money, he buys shoes for his son. He bought an iPhone yesterday. He buys an shoes for millions of dollars. Yesterday, I bought her son's iPhone for 15 million dollars. A small look. If I were her, I would buy anything for my children. Because I realize that I income is not like other people. Not only Michelle and other children.

My children go to school in a normal place. While the other children want to go to an international school that is expensive. Where am I from? But that doesn't mean I'm stingy and don't want to. If my daily income is 100 million or 200 million, I won't go to school. It's weird.

I will definitely go to school in an expensive place. We have a plan to buy a house in BSD. I have built a house in Sepatan. It's a high on the spot. On the top floor. And your mom doesn't want to live there. She prefers to rent a house that costs 1.5 million a day.

I built a house on the spot for us to live. If she wants to rent it, she can. If your mom doesn't want to, that's not my business. It's her risk to pay for it. Because she's the one who rents it. I've prepared it.

The first responsible man is not only the income, but also the place to live for his wife. So, as a man, I know how to marry a housewife. I built a house on the spot. But if my wife doesn't want to, it's not my fault. But that's what you can do.

Yes, this is what I can do. But that's why Pingkang doesn't want to ask me for much. It's normal that she works harder than me. Because she doesn't want to burden me. She knows that the children need a lot. Like Michelle and others. You have to understand, Sel.

You have to support your mom. Your mom works hard for your college tuition. Because if your mom sings in a cafe, you have to wait for the I.O. You have to wait for the call. We have to find money instantly.

We bring home food and eat it together If there is another job, it's a bonus This is the important thing You have to understand that But God willing, there will be a way God willing, hopefully he understands

Maybe I understand if he's shy, he's shy Your mom is like this, your mom is a diva, I understand if she's shy, she's like, Mommy, you're like this, Mommy, you're a diva, you're shy. I understand that. Michelle, I hope you have a good path. I hope your Silaturahmi and, I told Michelle and Mama yesterday,

whatever happens to Mommy, you still have to respect her. Because she's your mother. So, the connection between Arya and Mukondo,ria Panso, all of them are already answered. One thing that I salute you, Aria, is that you are a hard worker. You are a hard worker and the point is, the important thing is we try.

We don't know, Aria said, I'm just a singkong trader. If Allah says, your fortune, your fate, you meet an artist, you get married. And it's true, Aria said, if you want a higher wife your fortune, your fate to meet an artist, you will get married. And it's true, Arya said, if you want a higher wife's fortune, men have to work. Men have to work. Yes, that's why Arya said, I can afford this much, I build a house there, he doesn't want it.

The important thing is I already gave it. And there's one more thing, the important thing is if the wife has a higher income, we as husbands have to be grateful. Don't be arrogant and insecure. I used to be like that, but I can't be like this. I have my own value.

Your money is yours. My money is for you. You can use it for anything. If you want to buy me, that's a bonus. And don't do that if your wife is working hard, you have a lot of money, and your husband is loved,

you can cheat. That's why I said earlier, I don't want to do all kinds of things. It's not certain that we will change our wives, the fortune is different. Let's do it. Is that right? Ariakan everybody. I hope you succeed.

And greetings for Pingkan too. Keep up the spirit.

Find the Halal money. Find the Halal money.

Bye guys.