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Kuya Kim, emosyonal na ibinahagi ang mga alaala ni Emman Atienza | Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho Podcast

Kuya Kim, emosyonal na ibinahagi ang mga alaala ni Emman Atienza | Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho Podcast

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I'm sorry, can you tell us about that day when you got the call?

0:03

Two days before that, we knew that there was a problem. Emma texted her mommy, she said, Mom, I'm in an emergency right now, but worry not. There's no self-harm, but I need to go to a therapy center. We tried calling her, but she's not answering. And then on the second day, I woke up in the morning.

0:23

Feli sent me a message. I have terrible, terrible news. I knew already. I was so nervous. I said, Lord, this is it. So I called Feli, and Feli said, Eman's gone. You know, Eman, her mother looks like her, physically. But that's my thing. I'm crazy too. If we're crazy, we're there.

0:46

She had the best of both of you.

0:48

The best of both, yeah.

0:50

She had the academic mind of the mob. She had the looks of the mob, but she had my craziness. I was patient with her whether she would relapse or not. Because her guest debut challenge, she was bullied a lot back then. And then she got so bashed for it. And then I watched her and said,

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Is this a trigger? It might trigger her to be bipolar. It might get her depressed. I couldn't use her videos because I was blocked. I couldn't do a duet. I said, I don't know why.

1:18

Papa, I'm already called a Nepo baby. If we're seen together, I'll be a this on my own. He doesn't tell me that. The kids don't express that. But he tells everyone how much he loves them. Take your time, Kim. You know what I'm thankful for? I'm thankful for the fact that I'm not alone. I'm thankful for the fact that I'm not alone.

1:28

I'm thankful for the fact that I'm not alone. I'm thankful for the fact that I'm not alone. Take your time, Kim. You know what I'm thankful for? Eman is dead, but the Lord gave me 19 beautiful years. And that only means the Lord gave Emman millions of people. In those 19 years, my daughter inspired so many people.

2:17

Kim, I don't want this interview. No words, no questions, but can I just listen to your stories about Emanski?

2:32

I think that's how you call her, right? Emanski.

2:35

My pet name for Eman is Emanski. And you know, she allows me. But it's okay, Jessica. I'd like to think that my daughter, Eman, did not die in vain. Everything has a reason. When Eman died, I prayed to the Lord every day. Every day, because we know that Eman is sick, and we know that she's bipolar, and she had a few attempts in the past. And my prayer to the Lord every single day was for this

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not to happen. For Emma to be safe, for Emma to be happy, for Emma to heal, yet this happened. And I know that nothing happens as an accident and I know that all things work out well. Everything is planned by the Lord. I don't know where I'm going, but I know that Jessica is beautiful. I know that this is not in vain. Emma did not die in vain. There's a reason and the reason is beautiful.

3:40

That gives me peace.

3:43

It's okay.

3:45

How are you? I'm good now. How are you coping? That gives me peace. Yeah. It's okay. Okay.

3:47

How are you? I'm good now.

3:49

I'm good. Because you're there, we have visitors at home, and I'm good. But grief comes in waves. Sometimes it suddenly falls. Now, I'm okay. So, I don't want to be alone because it's a bit heavy.

4:07

How about Feli and your two other kids? Feli is strong. Feli is a very strong woman. Her way of coping is very busy. Taking care of the details of the wake, cleaning the house, we came from LA for a few days. She's very strong and she's a very good person. She's a very good person.

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She's a very good person. She's a very good person. She's a very good person. She's a very good person. She's a very good person. Jose was the one who helped in LA, he was the one who walked the papers because that's where he lived in America. Jose is very strong and Eliana is strong as well.

4:52

I raised very strong kids. Even Emma I thought was very strong but I didn't know that deep inside she was also suffering. Because she put up a very strong front, a very happy front, yet she was suffering and she was in pain. She talked about it, I know from Tony Gonzaga's vlog interview,

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he said that she was terrorized by her grandmother.

5:24

You know, Jessica, we were keeping that secret because we found out about those. We found out about those details in one of her attempts in the past. She talked to therapists and psychologists and they said that she had PTSD or post-traumatic stress disorder. And the reason is that.

5:44

And the many things she told Tony Gonzaga. And we were keeping that secret because we wanted to protect her. We were just surprised when she suddenly said that in an interview. It's not just Tony who said that. She kept on talking about it openly with passion. In her TikTok, in her guesting.

6:02

She's open. That's why we thought that she's okay. Because despite her talking, in her guesting. She was open. That's why we thought that she's okay. Because despite her pain, she was reaching out. Despite her pain, she was telling her story. And that's a sign that she's okay. So we felt she was okay because her advocacy was mental health, her advocacy was not to be depressed. That's when she was suffering.

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So, those two years on social media, where she met a lot of people, she was exposed to a lot of things. We were keeping it secret as a family, but she was exposing herself.

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She was telling her story.

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She was telling her who told the story.

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Feddie and I told her that it's her way of healing. Because when you tell a story, you feel better. But we did not know that when she told her story, she was still in pain, she was still suffering. Did she share those with you, Kim? She never did. After the therapist told us what happened, that's when we found out and we talked about it.

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But she kept it secret.

7:10

About the things that Yaya did?

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Yeah, yeah. She kept it secret and I did not know, we didn't know that it was that bad until the therapist talked to us. Because our experience with Yaya was like an ordinary Yaya. We thought that she had a firm discipline, which we felt was good. But when we didn't see it, we realized that she had something else. So...

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Where is that Yaya now?

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She's in her province. We don't look for her anymore. We don't talk to her anymore., we don't talk to each other anymore. And I'm sure, you know that. And again, what else can I do?

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If I can do it, that's it.

7:55

But she also talked about being bullied in school.

7:59

In school, yes. In this tech era, it technology, bullying is very common. Bullying is not only in school, and not only face-to-face. If you go home and open your social media, it's continuous. Bullying is 24-7. She was bullied that way in school.

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And she suffered for it.

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She was bullied in school and then there was bullying online.

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Yeah, the bullying online, Jessica, I was watching her very closely. I was based on whether she would relapse or not. Because her guest debut challenge, she was bullied a lot. First of all, that was so unfair because that was a marketing ploy. That was a marketing... When she first released her Guest Debut Challenge, at first, she was called out by a website called, I think, Republic Asia.

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And calling her out, that it was your privilege, that it was a marketing gimmick, they got it. But you can't explain it if she's already being bashed. And then she got so bashed for it. And then I was watching her, I said, is this a trigger? It might trigger her

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becoming bipolar, it might get her depressed. I saw her fighting. I advised her not to talk, I said, Emma, just let it die. But she spoke, she fought, she defended herself. She did it so well. Emma is a good speaker.

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Yes, yes.

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She's good. And I told her, she's okay. She's not triggered. She's not depressed. She fought. Emma is okay. For the past two years, Emma is okay. She's not depressed.

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There are have episodes. Even though you check on her daily activities on social media with all the bullying.

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That's why I engage with her on social media. I comment on her. I watch all her comments. I get mad. And then every day I ask her, are you okay? Are you good? I'm okay, Papa.

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I'm good. All good, Papa. That's our code. Are you good? All good, Papa. But she was not good. She was being eaten.

10:10

You were saying she asked for permission to go on social media?

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Yes, she said, Papa, I want to be an influencer. I want to go online. Emma, Emma, it's going to be painful. They're going to bash you. I can take it.

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She said that.

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And so I thought she was taking it. But she made me know that. Papa is a veteran. I've been here for so long. And I still get hurt, Eman. You'll get hurt.

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There, it's happening. Because how do you raise a kid without social media? You know, Eman is a digital native. She was born with it. We, Jessica, we know what real life is. We know what social media is.

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10:51

We are still separated. We are not separated anymore. When they were born, they had social media. When they grew up, they had social media. Their social life is social media. So when they were born, that's their reality.

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That's why it's hard for them.

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And they were also referencing you, huh?

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Well, yeah, because she's my daughter. But you know what? Even if they reference me a lot, Emma doesn't want us to be together.

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Really?

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In social media. Because I saw her strong following. So I drive her. Sometimes we stitch, sometimes we sometimes we'd do it together. I blocked him. I couldn't use his videos because I was blocked. I couldn't stitch or do it. I said, Eman, why? Papa, I'm already called a Nepo baby.

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And they say that I'm a Nepo baby that they like. If we're seen together, I'll be a real Nepo baby. I'll be one of those regular Nepo babies riding on you. I want to do this on my own. In fairness to Eman, she shined on her own. I'm copying her. She shined.

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I was surprised. I have a million followers, and more than me. And... Eman's following is all over the world. All over the world. The reason why she went to LA also,

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she made a lot of friends there. She met a lot of people on TikTok.

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She became her friend. I watched some of her videos. And she was this bundle of energy. She was such a smart kid. She was so witty. She was so talented.

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I mean, to have done all of those things. I know. She's rock climbing, she's doing gymnastics. She was such a fashionista. And she has a very positive energy. Yes, she's so creative. And she was unfiltered. She was raw, authentic.

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Authentic. And the quote, those who were seen dancing were thought insane by those who could not hear the music. Eman heard this music that only she could hear. And she found it beautiful and she was dancing to it and she was inspiring people on social media. She really touched a lot of people, Jessica.

13:01

Which one? I know you said she was diagnosed with bipolar.

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Bipolar, yeah.

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So, where is she in all the people she saw online? The people she saw online were happy. She didn't show the sad ones. Bipolar is when she's really happy and when she's really happy, she falls down. But what she was showing people was her really happy, joyful, inspiring moments. But people did not see what she was going through in private. Now, I just want to honor my daughter and ease the pain.

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It's painful for a child to die, Jessica. When a father or a sibling dies, It's painful to lose a child, Jessica. If you lose a father or a sibling, it's painful. But to lose a child, it's painful. Because it's part of your journey. What if? What if I spent more time with my daughter?

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Would she be alive? What if I did not send her to America to study? Would she be alive? What if I got another grandmother? Would she be alive? What if I got another grandma? Would she be alive? There are so many of those.

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That's why it hurts to see a child die because of a shared regret. But this is all part of the grieving process. I'll go through all of this, but I'll be okay. I'd like to go back to work. Let's just finish this.

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14:28

I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say, Kim.

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It's like, Lord, even if I get cancer, it's okay. I'll face it. Physical pain is easy. I'll endure it. But if you die, son, it hurts. It hurts.

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You don't know where the pain comes from. It hurts for everything. I said, Lord, even if you give me cancer, I'll endure it. I pray to you every day. That's Emma.

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Why?

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I have questions to the Lord. But my faith in Him is still the same. I still thank Him for everything. I know that it's for a good reason. And I know that the Lord did this because I know the plan is good. I still have faith in the Lord, but I ask.

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And I know that He'll answer in time. It gives me comfort that today, even when you're in this darkness, you can see the light at the end of it all. I'll continue to praise the Lord. The Lord has blessed me with so much, Jessica. I've been so blessed. My family has been so blessed. I bless Him and I praise Him when times are good and I'm in darkness now. I'm in a very dark alley, very dark valley and I continue to bless Him and

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praise Him. God is good all the time. What grace, Kim, that you can see the light at the end of this long, dark tunnel. I'm so happy that I met Jesus Christ, Jessica. If I did not, I'd be in that dark tunnel. I might be going to the end. I don't know where I'm going. But this, it gives me hope that I know that this is all for good. Emma did not die in vain.

16:23

Kim, sorry, please tell us that day when you got the call. Oh my gosh, Jessica. That day, two days before that, we knew that there was a problem. Eman texted her mommy, she said, mom, I'm in an emergency right now, but worry not, there's no self-harm, but I need to go to a therapy center. So that was our message. So we knew there was something wrong. We tried calling her, she's not answering.

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And then the next day we tried calling her again, she's not answering. So I knew. I was in the Philippines, Feli was in Florida. He had a pickleball championship. It's a good thing he's in America when that happened.

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But I was waiting here. And then on the second day, I woke up in the morning. Feli had a message. I have terrible, terrible news. I knew already. I was watching. My ears were numb.

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I said, Lord, this is it.

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So I called Feli. And Feli said, Emma's gone.

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I was so soft, I was so cold.

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And what was on my mind was, Lord, I pray to you every day.

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Why?

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Feli flew right away to LA. And then, that's it. Feli flew right away to LA and then... So, we decided to... I flew to LA also, two days after. So, Emma is now in the Philippines. But that's how we found out.

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Here's another one, Jessica. That day that I found out, I was in shock, right? But my therapy was work. I don't have a family here. They're all in shock. But my therapy was work. I have no family here. They're all in America. That was the most difficult day.

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Probably the most difficult day in my life. Fendi told me, let's not be public about it yet until we get the official coroner's report. It will take one or two days. So I was quiet about it.

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18:22

I went to GMA. I even did TikTok that day. It was hard. But it was still better because I was confused. But it was hard to hide inside. I can understand the followers. When the wife dies, the followers. If you're pregnant, it hurts. It's hard. But I had to work that whole day. And then finally, the next day we issued a statement.

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And it's now public.

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Yeah.

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I went to 24 that night. Vicky and Ia told me, you look different today. If you only knew, I look really different.

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But it helped me that I was out, you're different today. If you only knew, I'm really different today.

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But it helped me that I was out of the house. I would have been worse if I was inside the house. Kim, so sorry, but you've always known that this would happen to Emma? She was diagnosed with her PTSD and her being bipolar about six years ago, five years ago. During the pandemic, she attempted on her life. Again, we were keeping this secret but now it's out in the open.

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The first few months of the pandemic, our lockdown was severe. Emma attempted and the hospital was 48 hours before you could get a room. And Eman and I were in the emergency room waiting for a room. It was funny because I didn't know what to do. I was praying and praying and praying in the room. And then I was reading the Bible to her. I was reading the book of Psalms. She was recuperating. She was a bit dizzy.

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Anyway, she was in her bed and I was reading the book of Psalms to her. Constantly reading. I thought she was getting irritated because... But apparently, that made an impact. I'll tell you, I'll read you another letter. Okay. These letters give me comfort. Yes, yes, go ahead. This is from her. She was seeing this guy, an American, Sam. In the midst of my grief, I got this letter from Sam Watson. He's an American friend of Eman. They're very close.

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I have a story to tell you. First and foremost, I can't imagine your devastation and your family is in my prayers. I want to say with 100% sincerity that you are an incredible father. When I first met Emma in person, we started talking about mental health and the various times we had during our childhood. She explained much about her growing up and what her life was like. She got into the experiences you gave,

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talking about going to your races, and how she always thought it was so cool that someone could do that, wanting even to become an athlete herself. That's what she told me. I told others. She explained to me she had many, many struggles,

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including after her first attempt, when she was hospitalized, she talked about how one of the reasons she thought it was going to be okay was you coming in and reading to her. My reading was making an impact. I didn't know.

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She reminisced on those points at her weakest, how she felt that a sense of family that really loved her. She talked about the sense of community you gave her through your agency when she was embracing social media. She called me after your motorcycle accident and talked about how much you meant to her.

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She spoke about all the times and experiences you gave her. Your kindness to animals, your kindness to others, your hardships and overcoming them. She truly valued them. I can't imagine what you're going through. I'm so sorry. But I feel you deserve those moments because she really, really, really did love you." She doesn't tell me that. Kids don't express that. But she tells everyone how much she loves me.

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Take your time, Kim.

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Why did you know it gave me comfort?

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There's a tissue here, Kim. But you know, it gave me comfort. There's a tissue here, Kim.

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It gave me comfort, Jessica, that I got these letters on that day. These are the Lord's assurances. You're a good father. In Eman, had purpose. The two years I was on social media, it was like a fireball. The fire was so strong, so inspiring, so much joy.

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Fireball.

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Yeah. But fireballs, we know, are fireballs that die too. I'm like your meteorites, the ones you showed me. She's like a meteorite.

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She gave me a meteorite. Then I realized you had a real meteorite. It's like a meteorite. He gave me a meteorite. You had a real meteorite in life. And Eman always surprises me.

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Because I'm a born again Christian. Eman is woke. You know, I was born again late. I was born again in 2013. My children are already grown. So Eman became very woke.

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Gen Z people nowadays, you can't say that. So Eman became very woke. Gen Z people nowadays, you can't say that. And Eman is very woke.

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He's very leftist. But there's a term for you, right?

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Girl dad.

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You are a dad for your girls. Something like that.

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And you were talking about Eman.

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When Eman posts, I always get nervous, Jessica. Even though I'm happy with her, I don't know what to say. I'm surprised by her posts. Sometimes, she's just different. I said, she's going to bash.

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She did. And she's fighting. Normally, when we bash, we're quiet. You just let it pass. But not this one. She's fighting.

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That's her style. The last time I was surprised by her, was the last thing she did.

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What did she do, Kim?

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She disappeared.

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That's what surprises me the most. That's what surprises me the most. And again, she did it with, you know, as I said, worldwide news. You know that day she died, she was trending worldwide.

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Emma Natienza. Sometimes I get surprised when I see my name trending. I say, what did my children do? I know it's not me.

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Why? Oh, Kim. It's good that you can talk about her in the past tense. Because for me, when someone dies, it's hard to talk about that person in the past tense. It's like, it's gone, but you can already do that.

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This interview is actually therapeutic. I like talking about it because it gives me comfort. And despite all this and despite all the hurt, I still have peace because I know that I'm the Lord.

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25:53

It's your faith, no?

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Yeah, yeah. If not for my faith, I don't know where I'm going to be. But it is my faith and the faith has not wavered. I did ask Him a few questions, but my faith in him is the same. I continue to bless him and praise him when times are hard and when times are good. Now I'm in the dark tunnel, I continue to praise the Lord. Thank you Lord. That's it. That gives me comfort.

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But Kim, it must have been very hard to see how she took her life.

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Yeah. That's why we decided not to... we decided to cremate. You know, when I think of these things, I want to think of just the beautiful things. I want to think of how beautiful my daughter was, how smart she was. These grim details, I gave them to the Lord. Lord, I don't want to do this anymore. Even the, we were sent pictures. We were told by the coroner in the States,

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would you like to see Eman in her state? Fetty and I decided, the whole family decided we'd like to remember her in her beautiful self. We didn't want to see the pictures. Some parents want to see it, I don't. So what's left in my memory is the beauty and the advocacy and the fire and the passion and the funniness. The Tagalog of my daughter. I laughed there.

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Until now, even now, I still laugh. I repeat it again and again, I still laugh at my daughter.

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It's different. She's so good, even though she's so poor.

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That's the appeal of Ayaman.

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She was so herself.

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I watch her now and I laugh at her when I cry at the same time.

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But she did leave a lot of memories. I would say it's a waste what she could have turned into. But she left a lot of things. She showed what she has. What's your plan as a family?

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I'm happy because my two children are here. Eliana's here, and it's the first time that she came back since that Palestine thing. And then Jose's here as well. So we'd like to spend,

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I'll continue to go live while my children are here. I want to spend time with my kids and with Fanny. And spend quality time. After the two days that we were with Eman, we're going to be banding. You know what I'm thankful for?

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Eman is dead but the Lord gave me 19 beautiful years.

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And not only me, the Lord gave Emman millions of people. In those 19 years, my daughter inspired so many people.

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For that alone, I'm thankful. It's painful's painful to die, but she gave me 19 years. She gave it to the world. I'm proud of my Eman.

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And the light that she had.

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Right, Kim? Your son's achievements are incomparable.

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Nothing. My gosh. If only she knew. I'm sure she to you. Nothing. My gosh. If she only knew. I'm sure she already knew. What gives you comfort aside from the fact that she did leave a lot of memories? I know that the Lord loves Eman much more than me.

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Despite all the circumstances, when she died, the Lord of her death, she loved the Lord more. And I know that a time will come that I will be with my Emma again when my time comes. And I know that everything will be okay.

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She was so pure, right?

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Yeah, she was so kind. You know, I have a story. My father would give those to his grandchildren once a year. He wouldn't give them just for the whole year. He would give them for Christmas. They would collect them for their education.

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So, you really have a connection. A few years ago, three years ago, Emma asked me, Papa, Lolo gave me a Christmas gift. It's quite big. Good! I said, so happy for you. You know, I gave Yaya Alicia this much. I gave the driver this much.

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I gave everything. When her grandfather gave it to you. Her grandfather gave it to me. I was quiet. I said, Eman, I'll keep this a secret between the two of us, okay? Because if your mother finds out, you'll be in trouble. But I'd like to say that I'm proud of you. My daughter is that kind. She's that kind.

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She's that good. A little kindness because Eman so kind. She's so kind. She's that good. A little kindness because Eman was kind. And you know my daughter's neighborhood? Our house is nearby. She's at the back with my neighbors. With her friends.

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She grew up with my neighbors. They're very dear. Of all my kids, that's the closest. And you know, when we have cars, she likes to grab things.

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She likes to steal. Because she likes it. She would steal shoes by herself. She would steal. I don't know the people who have that. They thought she was crazy. No.

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The clothes that Emma would wear were hand-me-downs from his mother. The clothes he bought were all made by his mother. He styled them. And he wore a lot of accessories.

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They were all fake.

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He bought them from a shoe store. We were telling him that he was going to go to GMA Ball. He made clothes from the fabric he made.

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The white one?

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Yes, the white one. Sorry to the designer, but she didn't tell me who it was. It was full of ghosts. I said, man, that's so obviously fake. Papa, can you just allow me to be myself? My wife asked me to be the real ghost.

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Because all the ghosts will go there. That's how she is.

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She's a fake queen. She's a different kind.

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I started questioning.

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Questioning.

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Lord, I prayed, Lord, what is this? There.

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And then, I had a little resentment. Anger. I was like, Lord, what is this?

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And then, I had a little resentment.

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Anger?

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Anger, yes.

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I was complaining to myself, I was complaining to the Lord, He takes that. And then, I had a... Now, I'm in acceptance. I accepted what happened,

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I know that he was gone. But when I remember our past memories, when I walk around places that I know, I went out with my friends a few days ago, because Nafeli wasn't there. We went to a hotel in BGC.

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The food was delicious. I walked in the lobby. I remember the GMA Ball. The red carpet was there. That's where I walked in the lobby, I remembered the GMA Ball. The red carpet was there.

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That's where I walked Emma for the first time. When you remember something, you cry. You're okay, but something comes to mind. In our interview, we were laughing earlier. I was like, are you okay? But then I remember, in our interview, we were laughing earlier, but when I remember that it hurts,

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but I allow myself to cry because it's healthy. It comes in waves. The anger towards those who made your son suffer,

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who bullied him.

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I wasn't angry. You weren't like that? Even to the grandmother who abused him. That grandmother probably raised him like that. She raised him like that. I texted, Eman has a lot of grandmothers.

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He has four grandmothers. Three. I texted Emma, she has 4 girlfriends, 3. I texted the other 2, I said, Guys, Emma loves you. She's probably bullying you in your provinces. Show her my message, it's not you.

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So the other one, that's her?

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Yes.

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No, he already knows. What he eats now is his conscience and his neighbors. I can't remember his name, but he already knows who he is. But again, even the comments on social media are painful. You have answers, right? Yes, sometimes I use the Bible because they call it evangelical bullying. But again, Eman's motto is a little kindness.

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Even to them, who are still being bullied, we still show a little kindness. So that's where the little kindness comes from? That's her life. She was a little kind every day. Every day, she was kind to... I went to Tony Tocsian. Tony said,

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Kim, come here. She's grabbing. I said, she's like that. She's trying to get a tricycle. She's going to Robinsons. Not because she wants to.

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She's like that. But Eman was a little kind every day. And... If I'm a little kind today, Eman is alive in my heart. That gives me comfort.

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It's the opposite, right? You're the one who's being kind to your child.

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You know, Eman, her mother looks like her mother physically. But that's my personality. I'm also crazy. We're both crazy.

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She had the best of both of you.

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The best of both.

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Yeah.

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She had the academic mind of the mom. She had the looks of the mom. But she had my craziness. That's why her craziness was a bit too much. I didn't reach that. And your people skills, you know the tricycle, the one who rapped, that's you.

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Yes, it's already in my blood.

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Oh Kim, I hope we can do something to ease your pain.

36:36

No, this interview is good. This interview is good. I'm getting excited. Again, I don't want to be alone because if I'm alone, I'll be sad. And to be able to talk about Emma this way, it's beautiful. You make me, you give me comfort.

36:52

Does it help that you just imagine that she's looking down on you?

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Yeah, I think of that all the time. And she's happy where she is. You know, I talk to the Lord all the time. When I pray, I tell the Lord, tell Emma that I love her. And I'm sure she knows. Yeah. We'll get over this. In the Lord's time, in our time, we just have to grieve.

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I don't have any more questions, but maybe you have something else you want to tell? I just want to say to those who love Eman, Eman is a very kind child. She was brave despite the fact that she was being bullied. She didn't show it. She fought it. She was very authentic in what she said. But despite, with those two traits, Eman was also kind.

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She did everything with kindness. Now that Eman is gone, just be a little kind every day. And when you're kind today, Eman will live in our hearts. And that will give me comfort as well.

38:07

Eman, Papa loves you so much. You talk to her in Tagalog? I don't understand English. For our audience, I'll speak in Tagalog.

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Thank you.

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You know, Eman started in the media. I joined because I had a vlog before. During the pandemic. She was so young then, this was 5 years ago. She was speaking Tagalog, I woke her up in the middle of the night. Eman, say, say,

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Nakapagpapagabag, Nakapagpapabagabag, and she'll say, it's like a father and a son. It's like a father and a son. What can he say? That's our content. That's where the Tagalog started. But, Eman, Papa loves you so much. Mama loves you so much.

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And, again, you surprised us with this last thing that you did. Just know that we'll see you soon. Not too soon. But we'll see you when our time comes. And we can't wait for that day because we'll be with you again. And thank you for the 19 years that you've given Papa and Mama, Jose and Aliana. We

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may have not shown you as much love when you were alive, but you know we love you so much.

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Hug na lang kita ulit.

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Wish she continues to live.

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Yeah.

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Thank you, Jessica. Thank you. Thank you, Kim.

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Basta. Andito lang kami.

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Thank you. Andito lang kami. Thank you. Thank you. Andito lang kami. Thank you.

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Andito lang ako.

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