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LDII TUH APA SIH⁉️ HABIS NGAJI BISA TUKER PASANGAN⁉️- Ust Dwi Pramono - Habib Ja'far - Login EPS 16

LDII TUH APA SIH⁉️ HABIS NGAJI BISA TUKER PASANGAN⁉️- Ust Dwi Pramono - Habib Ja'far - Login EPS 16

Deddy Corbuzier

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What is the name of the NU usually a solawat together?

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Correct

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Or usually tahlilat, haul? Yes

0:06

In LDI is there? If you pray in LDI, the person who goes is a pail

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Oh, is that so? Is it a coincidence that someone is a pail?

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Yes

0:16

If Habib

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In LDI

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Believe

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Is there a Habib LDI?

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Yes The KTP is called Habib KTP is Habib. His KTP is Habib.

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I'm surprised. Al-Fatiha. Suddenly, you came here No, it's not suddenly, it's been a while I mean, suddenly you, Mr. Hussein, came here Where are you from? I'm from LDI From LDI

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Have you ever seen a plane in Indonesia? I often see planes rather than people

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That's right

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And the plane are usually very small That's also a question for everyone Why are LDE planks so small? And none of them are bigger than this Trapezoid, triangle, square, long And there's this, the direction

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The arrow direction

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100 meters down

1:44

The green color, that's the standard instruction.

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If it's a standard from the DPP, so when there is a mosque, the LDI mosque, it will be given a sign, give a flag, meaning it makes it easier, especially for the LDI community community, for example, going out, but also for everyone. And it also becomes the value of the LDI community's self-confidence. It means, when we went to Pemamati, in Lampung, we talked,

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the LDIs were confident so there were a few people, there was a mosque, there was a plan usually it was 313, 354

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what do you mean by 313, 354?

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usually it was morse code

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what is morse? don't do that wait in the LDs, there was a code I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry. Don't be. I'm sorry.

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There's a code in LDE, babe. Code 313 was taken from the army. Okay, the number 313. When we see, for example, steam motor, for example, steam motor 313, it can be confirmed that it has an LDI

3:05

And that usually becomes a kind of a bond

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But, doesn't it give the impression of exclusivity

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of the LDI citizens? Actually, no, just the point of view It means make it easier for our own citizens In addition, we also have guest rooms when we go to Sumatra, we just

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oh, there's a mosque, we just stop by it doesn't mean it's exclusive, no, actually because sometimes, we have an experience, let me tell you I was from a certain area we stopped by, we wanted to pray

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we wanted to go to the bathroom first but I already took off my clothes What did you take off? The pants It turned out that there was no water So we were in trouble

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We had to choose our mosque There was a plan of 313 354 and there was a representation of the bathroom and the place for the wudu, we just need to pray

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What makes the difference, why in other places there is no water, but in LAI there is water? We are more careful about the toharo So there is a standard? Yes, there is a standard even the bathroom

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we are standard so starting from the DPP level to PAC the standard is like this how is the standard? the standard is usually two schools

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that is the standard of the Islamic community

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yes, that's why we instructed from the DPP if you make a bathroom, better room, it should be standard It means to keep the sanctity Because the condition of prayer That's the place, the toharo

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And there, later The characteristic Every room has sandals There are sandals, later you go in and take them off Then there is a place, the holy place, in that term Now, when the place is not so spacious,

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5:08

we use less than two bowls, but the water must flow. For example, when there is a Najis, it will disappear by itself with the water flowing. Actually, it's the same as the Muslim people in general, right? Two-bowl standard, so when the Najis enter and all the attributes of the water do not change, so it's a dual school standard so when the Najis entered, it didn't change all the characteristics of the Najis so it's not Najis anymore.

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Maybe the small mosque, maybe there are village mosques, like that, right? The one that came, honestly, who organized it?

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Don't be confused.

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The mosque is on the side of the road because we pass by it at that time because it's time for prayer we stop by sometimes people want to go to the bathroom first I've already let go, there's no water

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and that's a few times but if I'm this is just to find out each other so like, mosques in Indonesia tend to be overloaded

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everywhere there are mosques and big ones too and if because it's time for prayer if you don't meet the mosque 313 and things related to LDI,

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it will be too late for the prayer. No, it's not. It means that we still pray in the nearest mosque. It doesn't mean that we have to look for a place with LDI. This is a different story. The story about praying in the bathroom.

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So, our bathroom was separated.

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So, our bathroom is standard. Starting from the toilet, LDI offices, starting from the DPP to the PAC, even the houses are standard. Even the tiles.

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Why the tiles?

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So the water can flow directly. So the floor is not tilted. We instruct make it like that we just make it like that there are some friends from other house we make the bathroom

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so when he saw the bathroom he thought it's unique and he ordered the bathroom and we send it there so he is a bathroom specialist

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yes he is I mean, he he is a bathroom specialist yes, he is a specialist

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I mean, he is not a bathroom specialist

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he is not unique

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actually, the standard is the standard of Islam and so on maybe LDI is very disciplined in the matter of tohara because it is the first and main chapter

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in the worship actually, this reminds me of the Buddha Shakyamuni's visit to the peak. So there is a Buddha Shakyamuni's visit. When I went there, I knew a lot of Buddhists, a lot of Buddhist communities. But when I went there, there was a different discipline. One of them was that they had special sandals.

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So we took off our sandals, put on our shoes, but replaced them with special sandals so we take off our sandals and shoes but replaced with sandals and special shoes especially for the bathroom? not the bathroom, but for all areas for all areas, there is an office, there is a center, and that's it

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but do you lose your sandals if you're there?

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no, someone keeps it there is, if in someone's place of worship So, besides focusing on the bathroom, you don't go to the sandals?

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This is the effect that often makes Muslims in the world Before we go there, there is a story We met a non-Muslim He came to our gathering He saw that the Muslim's bathroom was worse than the non-Muslim bathroom. It turned out that we didn't keep the cleanliness.

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Even though the non-Muslims themselves were very good at maintaining the cleanliness of the bathroom. And it was finally said, it was conveyed to us. We as Muslims, when we want to worship, we should start from the place, the room or the place to sit. It should be more representative, clean, comfortable. But if it's not comfortable, the worship is also not good.

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I agree. I once had a campaign to send to mosques, the smelly people. Because often a perfumer to mosques. Because, often times, some of our mosques, I'm sorry, the smell is the smell of feet. Yes, even though we should,

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when we enter the mosque, we should take off our shoes. Before entering the mosque, we should wash our feet. Either to clean or even to the point of vomiting. But, what is the smell? I think that's okay for our introspection. Yes, especially until the house of the citizens, there is a standard.

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Does that mean that the LEI is also a developer?

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No, it doesn't mean that.

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It means just instructions. Because the one who built it is also the LEI, it means another organization. No, so private houses have instructions from the DPP if you want to make a standard bathroom

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Oh, that's just the bathroom?

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Bathroom Not a house? No, not a house The standard in Islam Is there a photo of it? I'm curious Later, later

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Or just visit the mosque Can I?

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Yes

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Or Mas Lai? Yes, you can Yes

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That's a bit

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Why? or Mas Lai? Sure, sure, I'm ready. Sure? Sure. That's it. That's it. That's it. Why, Mas?

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Hmm?

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Yes.

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Have you ever had this experience?

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I've never had this experience, Mas.

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But, uh...

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Tell us.

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Tell us, he said, if...

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This is a social disaster, right?

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Yes. Yes. I'm surprised that someone is paying attention to you Yes, it's like what I said before Indeed, in LDI the other format leaders are known for their cleanliness in their offices So, we have a schedule

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to clean up I happen to live in East Jakarta in one of the bus stations in LDI near the fruit hole but LDI near the fruit shop but the fruit is gone

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I don't know where the fruit is this is Joks LDI

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I usually listen to Joks N2

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this is Joks LDI

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Joks Habib Habib

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in the bathroom

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if Joks Habib Habib we have been often I can't take a shower If you take a shower after you finish, we are already tired We are tired I feel like I have to learn again Take a shower

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So, back to the topic So, cleanliness is a value for us Even in the mosques that I live in I teach there Every morning and afternoon, there is a picket Picket for the children of the clergy

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Our term is Amal Soleh, Bip So, in the DLD, there is a term The password is Amal Soleh

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Yes, that's it

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So, for example, I ask for help to my son, Amal Soleh, take the glass Sir, Amal Soleh, take this because I am a soul ambil can glass but but I'm a soul I'm building a knee call it a gap I can't muscle the young guy my idea of a muscle and muscle and you'll be a new toy to say

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I'm in that alone. Oh, I'm in that alone. Can I say Mrs. I am a muscle I'm building a glass did I forget

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that I was a little

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young I'll get a gap I can't do that I'm out. for LDI, so until the study of the bird's eye chili, the study of the Prar Maja, until anyone must use the language, it is actually an egaliter, there is no such term, so we are together, sitting with the low standing with the high. If we are clean standards, we must want it or not, because the mosque is a place of worship.

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If a mosque is dirty, our worship is also uncomfortable. For example, we prostrate, the carpet has never been cleaned, never been touched. If we know the smell of the feet, for example, we are uncomfortable. If we want to prostrate for a long time, even though in the Satyagraha, the closest person is a servant when he is in a pure position. If we are not comfortable in worship,

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it means there is something that is not yet fulfilled. So sometimes there are friends from other religions who visit, and they will tell us that when the schedule is tight, they don't want to confirm it. He just asked, why was it sold? When he wanted to ask, he said, this is the ticket's date, sir.

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For example, the ticket's date is now. Even though we were ordered to do an extraordinary activity. Then there was the OJK activity. OJK is... Financial Services. We worked with BSI.

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Bank Syariah Indonesia. They came and filled in the event in our place. We provided everything there. It means that the standard of cleaning in LDI is very high. Yes. So, when we come to pray after praying

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for example, after suhoor there is a picket to clean if the picket time is morning and afternoon

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so every day

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so the potential of the wrong picket is there but it's morning and afternoon so if I go there in the afternoon

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I won't be picked up? no, you will be threatened

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no, no don? No. Why? As if there's a threat?

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No, no.

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So, in the morning and afternoon, only dry washing. Dry washing means no water. So, the cloth is given a thin layer of water to remove the dust. Is this a standard in the DPP? Yes, standard.

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All the mosques? All the mosques are like that. Even the mosques in PAC, PJ, if we have the term Mubalek, the one who lives there, like me, after I was appointed as a minister in Wali Barokah Kediri, I was assigned to PAC, Karanganyar.

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I lived in a mosque near Mihrop. Usually there was a room for the mubaligh morning activities we clean the mosque, besides teaching

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ok, it's clear, it means that friends who have finished praying in the mosque not because of you, not because of the lady, but the timing is really right and every day ok I will every day. And every day.

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Okay, I will come in the afternoon.

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No, afternoon and night.

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But, but, maybe as information to people, yes, Srim, it means that Masjid Al-Din is open

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to anyone. Open to anyone. So anyone can confirm what Ustaz Dwi said.

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Like a Muslim, I want to come in the afternoon It's okay, prayer in the afternoon is safe But my question is because this is a very common thing Identifying with RTI, people want to know about RTI One of them is about the DPL

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But if it was noon and afternoon, or morning and afternoon Usually in Besant, or morning and afternoon Usually, in the big train, morning and afternoon But maybe in the PAC, the schedule is a bit different The schedule is only afternoon or morning The important thing is twice, according to the standard That's the question

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If twice, it's not It depends, in Mondo, there are many people So we make the schedule for the mosque cleaning is easy When in PAC, it's not as easy as in the training center

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But I mean, actually, we do it at least 5 times a day for the congregation prayer in the mosque

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But why only 2 times to clean it? If in the training center, they see the time of the prayer, so if they pray in the morning, before praying at 8.30-9.00, there is a time gap, later there are those who sweep the floor, there are those who clean the kitchen,

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there are those who clean the mosque.

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It is very interesting in my opinion in Islam, protecting from impurity not only the visible problem but even the invisible problem

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must be ensured to be clean it means that what is maintained is not only the final result, right?

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yes, that's right what is maintained is also the process from the beginning to the end must be clear and ensured to be holy and ensured that the purity is comfortable.

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And such principles also apply in the practice, including when we want to choose gold. Wow, choosing gold is also like that, why did you just hear that? Yes, there is a goldsmith who pays attention to the aspect of the appropriation of the Sharia in the process. Now there are many issues about the origin of the material and the unclear process. Therefore, it is important for us to know where the gold we hold comes from and how the process is. Islamic assistant AI

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Here's an example.

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Habib all forbidden. It smells so good, like a new grave. This is an example. My gold from Harta Gold is now the only gold in Batangan that gets a recommendation for the adjustment of Sharia from the Indonesian Ulema Council or MUI. Wait a minute, I want to explain.

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This recommendation is given because the production process follows the principles of Sharia, starting from the explanation of the source of the raw material, the accuracy of the engramment, the level of purity that is maintained, until the production process is ensured avoids the element of impurity

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and from the standard of the material. This gold has also met the National Standard of Indonesia or SNI. The production process is done in the factory itself by implementing an international standard management system

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and has been accredited by the National Accreditation Committee or KAN

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yes, it's very overprotective

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yes, the important thing is to keep continue, where did we stop talking? until the cleanliness standard sandals too, not yet, sandals

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sandals, yes

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I want to peel the old AI

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No need

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There is no break, there is no morning and evening schedule I have another issue in the community

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But Slim, before we go anywhere I think we need to start from the beginning What is LDI? Is it Ormas? Or Madshab?

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Or what is LDI? In short, please.

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LDI is short for Dawa Islam Indonesia.

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So, it's not in Indonesia?

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The name is in Indonesia. But the name is outside Indonesia. There is a branch abroad? But the name is not LDI Oh, it depends? It depends on the local wisdom

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So, the English Islamic Dawa Institute? If it's in England It's a different organization It depends on the local wisdom

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It depends, where is it? Or the NDII of the English branch? They call it with the name that is always there Oh, I see the important thing is the member is LDI

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what is this?

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Ormas

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Ormas

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community organization

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how long?

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the founder and the year of the founder is when? LDI in 1972

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1972

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including if the old Ormas is 1990 this is a bit recent. So, the motivation for the other Ormas that we invite, before independence, is to liberate the Indonesian people. If LDI, after independence, what is the original motivation in the history of LDI?

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The history, the point is, he established Ormas for, what is it called, it means for worship, the focus is on worship. Because after independence,

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like other Ormas, Wahda, maybe after independence too. It means, the thoughts are in one form, community for worship. If in terms of Mahzab,

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yesterday we also discussed, for worship if in terms of religion we discussed yesterday there are those who do not use four religions take the most possible

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for themselves, what about LDI?

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if in terms of religion not fixed on one religion no, but in practice it is also in accordance with religion

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means choosing from those four schools.

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Yes, to choose from those four schools.

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In this case, which one will you follow? In that case, which one will you follow?

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But this is interesting, Pak Ustaz. If we discuss from yesterday, almost everything is based on the educational factor, right?

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Yes.

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Building schools, building education. This is a clean factor. I mean, what is the cleanliness factor? No, I didn't say the cleanliness factor. No, I mean, the cleanliness is prioritized. What is the origin of it? Why is cleanliness so emphasized in LDII? Actually, it's not just about cleanliness.

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It means that what can be done at that time is what was done before. That's why it's not that't want to be different from them. I want to keep the worship more comfortable, more comfortable, so that everything is clean. Like in Wali Barokah, there is a tower, a tower of 99 meters, there are also people who clean it.

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So there is no dust, it's just rough.

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But the problem of cleanliness in the Muslim's homes, whether in the mosque, mosque or mosque, it's not only in the LDI, right? But in many mosques and mosques, for example, I finally campaigned and mobilized to send perfume to several mosques.

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Well, does the LDI also do that? Or just focus on LDI first? Because in order for the exclusive impression to start to fade.

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If that's the case, we also work for all B, not just for our family, LDI mosque and other places too. That's why I said earlier that there are three orders from Pak Ketum. What are they?

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Communication, contribution, and work. So we have a duty to carry out these three. So that the stigma can be removed. It will slowly fade away when there is a communication like this For example, like this

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There are internal issues

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Stigma

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One of them is the one in PL The other one?

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There are many collections

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I have another one I was there too It was more scary but the one that is more known to the community is in PL I have been to

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Papua, at that time in Jayapura I met there was one who now became a member of LDI now became a member of LDI so he from one of the

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places went there to hang out, heard there was a lecture, a lecture by the LDI. He was interested because there was an issue, after the lecture, sorry, the couple exchanged, right? Husband and wife.

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He was exchanged, his wife for us, our wife for him.

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That's the issue How come I didn't hear about that issue? When I didn't go there, I didn't find it either But because of the blessing of the Lord the blessing of meeting finally discussed

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This person is curious curious not about his prayer curious because there was an issue earlier at night waiting, why didn't it happen? So that's not his sermon

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Every day, every night When there is a sermon He comes And now, thank God, he is a member of the LDI So there are a lot of issues This is extreme

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Exchange What we hear is that you can't get married Other than LDI Is that true? I'm not interested in that I'm not interested in that I heard that you can't get married

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is that true? Yes, I have a friend who's wife is not from LDI Where did you get that information?

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Yes It's a stigma

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I heard that too

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Yes It's safe

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It's safe It's safe, so it's okay.

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It's okay, Bib. No, because in other organizations, the cross is usually like that. For example, my assistant is a woman, Muhammadiyah, married to a guy from the National Union.

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If it's an L.E.A., it's okay, right? It's okay. As long as they're both suitable. The governor is okay, then it's okay. I have a friend in a region whose wife is non-LDI. Now it's safe.

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But what about Ustad Dwi himself?

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His wife is also LDI.

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Because he is a LDI. Everyday he is being visited by his wife. The real LDI.

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I have another issue from the community.

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What issue is this? A slander?

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I already told you about the issue.

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So that it won't become a slander, you're going to condemn it. There was an incident, they said, there was a person who came to the house of the LDI. After he left, they said the glasses of the other person's old glasses were thrown away. Because they said it's considered a sin I read it on deep web if I'm not mistaken with the food, right? Actually, this is a very good discussion so that in the end, slander or stigma

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people are finished answered because in the time of the Prophet, it also happened because there is a verse in Surah Taubah verse 28 about the najis of the Muslims

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so the Muslims are najis but not in a literal way not in a real way

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but in a metaphor literal way, not in a real way, but in a metaphorical way.

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It means that because they do not worship God, they betray God, so they are Najis. The consequence is that they cannot enter the Haram mosque.

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Oh.

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That's why non-Muslims cannot enter the Haram mosque. But it doesn't mean that we touch them as Najis. And it doesn't mean that if we drink their wine, it is not allowed because we are a Najis unless they have consumed a pig or a pig's drink There is a story where the Prophet once drank milk then it was given to the Jews

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and then the Prophet said, continue to your right and on his right was Saidina Abu Bakar and Saidina Abu Bakar drank from the bowl of a Jew so it is confirmed that he is not a Najis a non-Muslim is born a Jew but the Najis is a real Jew

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this is a series of facts the food is also a Najis because it is taken out

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if we buy the corn, it will be washed too so it's a side dish yes if we buy the corn, we will wash it too. Oh, so it's a one-sided thing? Yes, if we consider it as a one-sided thing. For example, now with Dalil Akli, LD doesn't have their own plane, LD doesn't have their own mall.

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Yes, that's right.

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I don't know who gave me this chair. He gave it to me to wash.

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Oh, I I washed it.

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I washed it with respect.

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Yes. Now, logically, LDI is everywhere. And it doesn't have a special place. It doesn't have a plane. It doesn't have a mall. But you can take a shower at home.

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I mean, it doesn't...

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But this is a thing.

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I mean, I wash not... But this is a thing. If this is, I mean, he washes the plane every day.

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I mean, he's the one who washes his body.

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You can still consider him a Najis.

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Najis, this is the seat of Dediqo Abu Zarr.

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True. Even though I'm on the plane, I also pray. It means that when on the road, I pray on the plane. Because it's time for us to pray if we wait there, maybe it will be too late if we think that is a najis, it is not right to pray

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that's why, in a rational way, we don't have a shop I don't know who is the one who cleans, I drink there was someone who cleans

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that's a different religion

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He's a different religion

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He's satanic

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So, once again, the issue is that if we go to the LDI, there's no what's it called

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the place where the food is thrown away If it's cleaned, there's no food If it's cleaned, there's no food

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So, it's cleaned to get wash it, it's dirty it's meant to remove the dirt

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no, no, it's more for the dirt if that's the case, I have a question where did it come from? all of this came up

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if it never existed, but from the sand to the rocks

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the stigma is like this

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how can this come up?

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honestly, we if we want to bring you to the head yesterday from Persis, we can find it on Google. The top 3 LDI is what we are asking.

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Actually, we have no hard feeling. We don't have any feelings.

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We just give space to explain. Our friend is interested to be a trainer. It depends on him. It depends on him.

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If the value of Islam is pleasing He says, I will join Until now, he just 10 minutes, sit with persis Immediately attracted

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30 minutes, not yet attracted Oh not yet? Because it's not clear yet

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Because

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You're renovating No, because it's good Do I need to find a shopkeeper? for I don't know about that issue, maybe it's just a rumor, maybe it happened, but maybe the people in the language are too fucking, the Javanese language is too fucking. Maybe, I don't know either of that, but the reality is that it happened. When I was in the campus, in Jakarta, in UIN, in PTIK, it was still there. I actually use that space to give enlightenment. Come on, come to my retreat. I stayed there. Our retreat was often visited by the leaders.

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There were activities. We often went to Kediri, Wali Baroka, FKUB, our retreat, Minarjuro Siting, and even a pastor stayed at our retreat for three days.

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Locked in?

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No.

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It's clean.

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It's been locked in for a long time.

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It's clean, of course.

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So, the pastors before they were sent to the province, the seniors learned Islam first, so they know that Islam is a mercy from nature. Islam is not like what's in the media, Islam is radical, Islam is a mercy from nature, Islam is not like what is in the medicine, Islam is radical, Islam is what? They stay, in the language of Muhammad,

32:50

they stay in our place for three days and three nights. They talk to their Ustaz, they talk to their Santriwans, Santriwatinya, they meet and see the three-day life is a kind of portfolio. That Islam is like this, beautiful in worship and each person's beliefs

33:11

Actually, that's also our goal, right? Because the suspicion is partly a sin Allah said in the Qur'an, The suspicion causes blindness and causes a ghibah talking behind without confirmation, without clarification and that caused a lot of confusion and gossip without any confirmation or clarification and in the end, there was minimal gossip

33:31

and the maximum was slander especially in the Mad Source era where we often judge people based on what's in the Mad Source or what people say about that person from the Mad Source so that the Silaturahmi like this is very important to eliminate the walls of doubt

33:50

so from the reality we know and those who don't know, maybe we have to ignore but it was interesting in communication so the name is the Da'wah Institute it means that it should be very felt's called a Da'wah institution. It means that you should feel the Da'wah. But, I'm sorry, Ustaz.

34:11

Why?

34:12

The LDI is small.

34:14

Even though you said it's a PD. Yes.

34:17

With the one you're making, it's like that.

34:21

This is LDI.

34:22

Yes. Seriously. I've never seen a big LDI as small as I can see. It's small and I've never seen LDI events that are so open.

34:35

Like Muhammadiyah, I attend Muhammadiyah events almost every year. Even the congress is there. DNU, what else? There are many, there are many. communication There are many on Instagram. There are many on Instagram. On DDPW, there are also many. On DDPW, there are also many.

35:28

On DDPD, there are also many. Maybe, the one before, it's not massive enough. But actually, there are many activities. Even collaboration with Ormas, collaboration with stakeholders,

35:40

there are many. Even during the COVID-19, in our place, in Minat Jura City, became a vaccine site. Almost 100,000 people were there.

35:50

No, this is still... Abid is still looking for...

35:52

No, I'm looking for the event.

35:54

There's a talk show, a science talk show. This is still on YouTube. I'm looking for the friendly one.

36:02

For example, like... What's the name? NU is usually a solawat together or usually a tahlilan, a haul Is there any LDI? Haul, tahlilan, or even solawat together If invited, often invited

36:20

Invited by other ormas, invited by NU, we come actually But if LDI, is there came but what about the LDI? LDI is like his mother, it's not a religious ceremony oh, so it's not a religious ceremony, not a funeral if it's a funeral, it's a funeral but there's no ritual?

36:41

no, no if it's smoking, it's prohibited it's prohibited? no, no. What about smoking? Smoking is prohibited. It's haram? No, no.

36:46

It's different.

36:47

If the people understand that it's haram, then it's haram. But we only prohibit it. We prohibit it until it's haram. As long as I buy people's cigarettes, it's okay. Because if it's haram, then there's a saying in Kaida, Makarum makluh harum a'ik to'u. So, we should not smoke, just for charity.

37:08

That's all. Until you die, you must not. If you die, you must not. No, no, no.

37:16

Don't add more.

37:18

Don't add more.

37:20

How many followers do you have?

37:22

LDI, 239 thousand. That's a lot. if it's a media communication Live, the content is just clarification No, no need to do live It's okay, it's good, right?

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37:34

That's communication

37:36

This is a login platform, right? On the other hand, it should be often, for example, Q&A What is your opinion about LDI? I just want to say this, LDI, is there a social media and marketing division? Give it to this guy, he can make an event about LDI

37:53

But sir, I saw a lot of postings and events that are related to cleanliness Is this LDI or Pandawar? of events that are related to cleanliness, sir. Yes. Here, there is.

38:05

Yes.

38:06

Is this a sign of Pandawar?

38:07

No, sir.

38:08

Happy National Waste Day, February 21.

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Yes.

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So, it's really a lot of cleanliness.

38:15

Yes, yes, yes.

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The new one, the new one. Oh yes. The new one, right? Not long ago, the participants were also asked for a passport event at Monas. Oh yes. We also have a request for a parade in Monas When we were asked by some people to celebrate Yes, this is Cavalry TNI

38:30

Maybe not yet exposed But if Tahlil doesn't Solawatan doesn't If invited, they come Invited, but make it yourself

38:43

If Habib in LDI Believe Is there a Habib in LDI? Is there?

38:45

There is.

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There is in Kertosono. His name is Habib Ubaitila Al-Hassani.

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He is from Gresik. It has been confirmed in Gresik that he does have a son. Yes, Al- is the descendant of Sina Hasan, the grandson of Prophet Muhammad.

39:05

I am the descendant of Sina Hussein, Al Husseini.

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In East Java? Does he call him Habib? Even his ID card is called Habib. His ID card is Habib Ubaidillah. He was replaced when it was confirmed that he was a Habib. He came, his ID card was changed, his passport was also replaced.

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39:29

To Duk Capil, the name of Habib. Yes, the name of the ID card is Habib Ubaidillah Al-Hasani.

39:36

This is Habib, I'm surprised. Sorry, I'm not laughing. I mean, I thought Habib was just a name.

39:44

Not patented as a name.

39:46

I'm sorry, Chafi.

39:48

I understand, usually it happens to the descendants of the Prophet, in areas that are not popular with the descendants of Prophet Muhammad or in a way he is not visible or then in a way he is not popular for example in the village he is alone usually he is attached to the title of Syed Syed but some are not in the KTP

40:21

but some are placed in the KTP to affirm not for others, but especially for himself from his father that you are a descendant of the Prophet so keep your blood safe so you have to represent the Prophet Muhammad okay, who was the name of the descendant?

40:38

Al-Hassani Al-Hassani

40:41

oh, so it means Bin Hussein

40:43

no, no

40:44

the descendant is Saidina Hussein No, it's not Sayyidina Hussein Prophet Muhammad has two grandsons, Sayyidina Hassan and Sayyidina Hussein Sayyidina Hassan usually Al-Hassani Sayyidina Hussein

40:56

Because there are so many in Indonesia Usually, it's per marga But I'm Al-Hadar I asked earlier, if Bin Smith

41:04

That's also one of the Margas. Oh, Margas. Now, we're going to talk about Habib,

41:10

talk about LDI.

41:12

Now, this.

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Which is also questioned by people about LDI. They say there is an LDI grant, a special invite for LDI citizens. What about that, Ustaz Dwi? If the invite is... Infact khusus warga LDI. Nah, kalau itu gimana, Ustaz Dwi?

41:25

Kalau infact itu kan, isilahnya, terserah dari masing-masing jamaah kan. Artinya, namanya ormas itu kan, perlu biaya. Untuk pergerakannya,

41:37

untuk acara-acaranya, itu kan, mesti kan butuh biaya, perlu biaya. Sehingga, kita menggali dari dalam sendiri saja. We need money. So we have to find it ourselves. There is an instruction for charity. In our language, it's called Sapol Kemampuannya. So there is no limit. And it's not mandatory.

41:56

It's not mandatory. If you can afford it, you can do it. If you can't, you can't. So there is no 10% every month? No, there's none. In LDI, who gives the fatwa?

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42:13

In LDI, there's an organization like NU Batul Masyail. In Mamadiah Majelis Tarji, there's Majelis Tauji Wal Irsyad. Okay, wow. That's the fatwa. Majelis Tarjih is Majelis Tawjih Wal Irshad. Okay. So, when there are things that need to be discussed, it will be discussed later and it will be a kind of fatwa for the LDI citizens.

42:35

Is there a fatwa example that is different from other ormas from the LDI? For example, if Muhammadiyah, with the general NU, about the ancient, about the number of tarawih, the determination of the beginning of Ramadan and Eid. If at the beginning of Ramadan we follow the government, even LDI was invited to the wedding. Yesterday I happened to be there and we also have a team, the RUYAT team,'s almost 100 points and we learn it from

43:05

NU means Ruyah not Hisa Is there any particular fatwa or characteristic

43:11

of LDI when they do this, the fatwa is like this different from NU or Muhammadiyah almost none almost none in some cases, it's the same as Muhammadiyah especially about Tahlil in some cases, it is the same as Muhammadiyah, especially about the Talil, Radiyah.

43:26

In some cases, it is the same as the NU, about the Ru'yah. Is there anyone who gives advice? No.

43:34

No?

43:35

Even in the LD, there is a kind of advice. The advice is screening first. I happen to be in the screening part. Don't let the materials be taken by others. screening. I was in the screening. I was in the screening. I was in the screening. I was in the screening. I was in the screening. I was in the screening.

43:47

I was in the screening. I was in the screening. We don't have KTA. Oh, no KTA? No. So what if you want to be an LDI? Usually they will do the reading at PAC. At PAC, there are readings twice a week, and three times a week.

44:16

Not to mention the bird's eye view readings, the young people readings, even at the beginning of the new year, we will direct them to the mosque to do the youth, the young people even in the new year we direct them to the mosque to pray so they don't go anywhere

44:29

so that's it, so the LDI people

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yes

44:33

this is interesting because it's related to me I once talked to one of the LDI elders Ustaz Acheng

44:42

yes

44:43

at that time in one of my podcsts, it was different but the same

44:46

Yes

44:46

Then someone DMed me Bip, I was once a member of LDI

44:52

Yes

44:52

At that time, he told me Then he said, when we became members of LDI Then, yes, everything must be done with LDI Including one of the issues earlier, the issue of marriage step? We have to be with LDII One of the issues was about marriage And the prayer must be done there How do you feel about that?

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45:12

Is this a witness? I don't know if he's telling the truth

45:16

No, it's a witness It's not Islam

45:20

It's true, he's a man who confesses But I don't know if he's really the LDI, especially not close to the government. But after I talked about this clarification, confirmation with Ustaz Aceh, if I'm not mistaken, he was a Sergeant, right? He was a cadet, the head of the department. Coincidentally, he was the head of the department.

45:45

How do you feel about that?

45:49

That is part of the real issue. So, it's responsible for some of my friends who are not in LDI. For example, I'm in the first year of my studies in Libya, Jakarta. I'm in the second year of my studies in Uwin, Saributayutul, Jakarta Wow, you were in Jakarta for one year? Yes, I was in Tirosa

46:08

Wow, I was in Taksim I was a student during the COVID-19 Because it was during the COVID-19 So I was waiting in front of my house, in front of my laptop I was waiting to be called Then I was called, Covid I was born in 2021

46:26

So you are my junior

46:28

Yes

46:30

What for?

46:32

I don't know It's okay, it's a mother and son It's impossible to be a standard

46:38

Why do you eat a apple?

46:44

What's the point?

46:46

It's confirmed by many people. So, friends, the science is not only from our own people. Like the issue that's developing. There are friends who study in Saudi Arabia. There are even in Egypt. Especially in Indonesia, we refer to N our friends from NU and MAMADIA.

47:08

We have schools, but mostly in elementary, junior, and high school. So, if you go to LDI, there is only one campus. Where? In my place, in Minajuro City. It's called Minajuro City High School of Islam. at Minah Jurusidin, a high school of Islamic religion. I told my friends, if you go to the campus,

47:27

just drop by the NU community, or the NU community, and you'll have a big campus. So, I've had a lot of knowledge. So, it's not exclusive. I was at PTIK yesterday,

47:41

I just finished on December 30th. That's the third year, right? Yes, the third year, right? Third year, yes PTIK is the Quranic Tafsir The Quranic Tafsir The University of the Quran

47:50

Yes, the University of the Quran

47:54

Ah, this is Muhammad Because he has that, he has a P Well, if LDI, is there any sign that shows that this is an LDI citizen? Because even the statue doesn't show it.

48:08

The trunk is a Gusdur trunk. The trunk is a Gusdur trunk. Batik.

48:14

Batik is a Slawesi.

48:16

Is there an LDI identity?

48:18

If there is no identity, it's the same as the others. It's the same as the others. Whether it's a man or a woman. If it's a man, it's a woman. If it's a woman, it's a man. But that's what Salafi friends do. Yes, yes.

48:32

So we choose that one. Without blaming the other one. If it's a choice, it's normal. For example, choose this one. But that's not an identity. Not. but that's not a specific identity that's why it's a bit difficult to identify

48:48

who is it

48:50

except for earlier, right?

48:52

313

48:54

yes, except for the code I'm also curious, so 313 is from a friend from the civil war what are the other codes? while I'm looking for it

49:06

Twitter users are not LDI

49:08

Twitter users, Instagram users

49:10

who use the code ANGKANGKA

49:12

are not LDI

49:14

the average is 3 because it takes from the number of troops the war people

49:20

oh 3,1

49:22

the other 2, how many? 3,5,4 4,3? No, there's no 433. That's more like a conformation. Conformation. No, there's none.

49:31

Tegal Tanjung.

49:33

There is. Wait.

49:35

What is this?

49:36

No, it's not.

49:37

3113.

49:41

The field of knowledge.

49:43

No. It's a padel field Why didn't you just publish it? That this is a LDII store? Why did you use codes? It's forbidden

49:54

Yes, that's why I know

49:56

It's not a mix Maybe there's a reason Was it exclusive or it was even kept away from people so there were codes But why did you use codes?

50:08

Actually, for the advantage, like this, when there are friends who I mentioned earlier, when they come, the economy will also grow, so when we buy from UM local market, which on the one hand, increases the solidity, the compactness, and the quality. In the LDR, there are six tabiat luhur.

50:30

There are compact, good cooperation, honest, trustworthy, and the most important, the most important.

50:38

So, with this intern, we have to be good, before we are good with the outside. Sometimes, we are good with the outside world sometimes we are good with the outside world but inside we have problems that are not solved so to build solidarity

50:52

not to make it different so there is interaction there is a Javanese person walking to Sumatra walking, chatting how are you? how are you?

51:04

Alhamdulillah, it's getting better, it's getting more blessed. That's it. That's all. There's no intention to go further. It turns out, this is possible.

51:13

It's still being searched for.

51:15

No, because this is a gang of warung kediri. The name of the warung is Warung 313.

51:21

And interestingly, someone commented, foreign Yes, we pray there, choose the closest one Besides the store, what else is 313?

51:48

Why?

51:50

Is it a duck?

51:52

CRK 313 Yes, it's a loss

51:56

for the NDI to come there

51:58

So, Ano will be a respected member

52:02

NDI's business

52:04

In LDI, there are a business man.

52:08

In LDI, there is a joint venture. So, from the villagers, we collect capital for our villagers. In terms of economy, we also grow. In terms of interest, we build the interest first, it's already safe, it's okay, then it will will go out. If there were people who left LDI, what would be the situation?

52:33

If they left, then it's okay. If they are not suitable for the ADART, then it's okay. If there are MU players who move to City, it's okay.

52:45

It's okay, right? Yes, yes. Right? It's okay, right? Yes, yes.

52:46

Tevez has been there.

52:47

Tevez has been there.

52:48

Especially Vigo moving to Madrid, it's also crowded.

52:51

Wow, that's in Leipzig.

52:52

Yes, that's it.

52:53

The meaning is that... Wow, that's not just an example.

52:56

Vigo is not from here, bro! Oh, really?

53:08

It's a kind of enthusiasm. It's a kind of enthusiasm. If I can analogue it, people in Solo usually eat clear soto. people in Solo usually eat clear soto. In Jakarta,

53:20

the soto is a bit... There's keru, there's santan. In Makassar, it's even better. Coto Makassar. It's just a choice. When I, a Javanese, go to Makassar,

53:31

and it doesn't suit my food, then we are not suitable. When people are in the same group, and the journey is not suitable, then we switch. It's up to each person's choice. So, so please, each of you have your own choice.

53:45

So, you're not going to be cut off? No, not at all.

53:49

But, speaking of...

53:50

No, I'm not.

53:51

You're going to be cut off.

53:52

I'm not.

53:53

But, speaking of Soto and Coto, you know the difference, Astaghfirullah.

53:56

How can you guess?

53:57

If Soto, the meat is choppy HAHAHAHA Why are you laughing? I asked if you are in the LDI

54:08

Jokes LDI and Jokes Habib are connected We are connected HAHAHA

54:14

But, if people after listening to our conversation with a lot of explanations from Ustaz Dwi then, I want to know myself what is being discussed with Ustaz Dwi and then I wanted to know for myself

54:25

whether what Ustaz Dwi said was true or not

54:28

where do people usually go if they want to know about LDI in its entirety? you can go to the Pesantren, you can also go to the Jaktim in Lumpang Buayas Jakarta? where there is no Buayas?

54:42

yes, there is no Buayas

54:43

he often goes out

54:48

He's afraid to see me

54:52

Or if you're on social media on the LDI's account But there are many accounts on Instagram Is there an influencer LDI? There are many, right? Daid NU, Daim Muhammadia

55:04

The new influencer is Hasan Sule That's LDI How to inform about LDI? I think it's only the private influencers who help LDI. The LDI family.

55:28

The LDI family, the influencers. For example, I want to invite LDI's relatives, who are they? Is there anyone who often appears?

55:42

If it's someone who often appears, it's the one in Solo. His name is Kiai Haji Muhammad Toyibun. He is the director of the Budi Utomo train station in Surakarta. It's not far from the terminal. Is that the one who often appears in the movies?

55:59

Yes, he often appears in the movies. He is often called to the polda or to the hanoi to give a speech. I have a question. So, I'm always invited to his lectures. I have a question.

56:08

Have you ever...

56:10

There's a group of people, or maybe a group of kids, who were persecuted. They were told not to go to the gym.

56:19

You mean the persecution?

56:21

No, because there are so many issues about LDI. I'm asking you, what would happen if they were issues about LDI I ask at the same time what if you leave LDI, what will you do? no, this is their problem, I mean, persecuted

56:31

oh, they are closed

56:33

you can't come

56:35

have you ever?

56:36

no, I was small, I was still closed

56:38

yes, who knows

56:39

I thought it was a small reason, I was afraid

56:41

afraid of being closed

56:46

Or in relation to other religions in Islam?

56:50

The point is, if it happens like that, there is no communication yet So if an Arab says, you are a Tindakarib When something new is sometimes considered foreign But after the communication, maybe with coffee or something else, it will be clearer.

57:12

What does it mean? This is an LDI citizen, for example, they want to build a mosque. Such events are also there. It means that there is a need for communication with local stakeholders.

57:23

Is the reason for the is because of lack of permission or because he doesn't like LDI?

57:30

If you are the same as the church.

57:32

If the church is not lack of permission, it is not given permission.

57:34

We go back to...

57:36

Why is he persecuted?

57:38

Maybe the permission is a bit... For example, why build a mosque alone again? I was asked why I built my own mosque. I was asked why I built my own mosque. I was also asked why I built my own mosque. I told them that the mosque needs to be regenerated. I think the best place to create regeneration is in the mosque.

58:09

So the activities are very tight.

58:12

In the mosque?

58:13

Yes, in the mosque. Every day, there is a prayer for the bird's eye chili. For the small children who are brought to kindergarten. Maybe they have a cough. My son is praying. I am a pastor, right? He reads Tilawat, Ikhrok, for example.

58:30

Then, there are men who read PAC two or three times a week. Not to mention the young men, especially the teenagers, there will be special readings later. There are directions, advice, there will be knowledge, insight, and experience, for example. So there is a need for a special place

58:51

to create generations. And sometimes, that is stigmatized. Wow, this is exclusive, it's self-proclaimed. Whereas if we don't have a place, how are we going to create a complex generation. Can't we do it in surrounding mosques that are not built by ourselves,

59:13

and specifically, this mosque has LDI? For example, if we allow the village mosque to go to the village, maybe the villagers won't get time to pray there because our activities are very strict. So it's not because we want to separate from the Muslim community. No, it means we need to create a special generation,

59:36

comfortable, nice, we are the ones who are in charge. Eh, when there is another group that wants to collaborate, then it's fine, we can just tell us their time. For example, in Minah Churros, there is a kind of a kind of a sign. It is used when a people come to ask for permission to use a place.

59:57

Even if it's not raining in the morning and evening, there are villagers who forgive this place for jogging. Well, about Islam Indonesia,

1:00:07

as Prof. Azumar Diazah said, it is the flower of Islam, the flower of Islam. And it is also identical to NU, the Islamic country. It means that Islam Indonesia is an Islam that is in accordance with the culture of Indonesia.

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So, if the LDI attitude towards the culture of culture, whether it is the culture of Indonesia. So, if the LDI attitude is against the culture, whether it's the music culture, or the culture that exists in Indonesia, the custom, how is it, Ustaz?

1:00:32

If it's the culture, we adjust it to the culture. If it's the music, I like the Javanese songs. In Solo, it's Didi Kempot, Almarhum, and Deni Canan.

1:00:44

Now, there's more. We don't In the past, in Solo, we used to have a temple called Almarhum. There was also Deni Canan, and there are many others. We don't even have a haram ritual. There was a time when we had a dalang. Dalang is a wayang player. Even now, we still listen to wayang. In this era, we still have it.

1:01:03

And we do it every day. We look for... It it's every day. It's open. It's not like a fatwa that it's haram to play music.

1:01:12

This is the last question. What is the vision and perspective of LDI towards the unity of Muslims?

1:01:21

If LDI stands the PBNU. The P stands for Pancasila, the B stands for Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, and the N stands for NKRI, and the U stands for Undang-Undang. The LDI is based on the principles of the progress of the tribes, the progress of religion, and the race in Indonesia. So the LDI is very N religion, and the race in Indonesia. So that LDI is very NKRI, and very, like what you said, PBNU. Pancasila, Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, NKRI, and UU D45.

1:02:00

If it's about the different Islamic communities in Am religious beliefs, religion, and different behaviors? In terms of religious behavior, automatically, it's because of the word Ikhtilaf. Ikhtilaf of the Ummah of Rahman is already there. The important thing is not iftirah, right? Not division. Not division.

1:02:15

Just differences.

1:02:16

If it's a difference, it means that by communicating like this, it means to weaken the similarity and to reduce the difference smaller and to make the difference bigger. It means, the difference is already there, don't look for the same thing. The same thing, don't look for the difference. Just enjoy the progress. When we, because I'm Javanese, for example, Bang Mahmad, Bang Papua, Indonesian, we are all the same, right?

1:02:44

It means, don't look at the supermulatism, Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia

1:03:04

Indonesia Indonesia Oh, about the Indonesian Union, it's hard. Why? I mean, why the Indonesian Union?

1:03:05

But I'm really inspired today about cleanliness, so...

1:03:09

Will you?

1:03:10

Yes. No, thank you, Ustaz Dwi, because I want to clean.

1:03:14

You clean the LDI, it should be the LDI that cleans.

1:03:17

I want to clean.

1:03:18

No, that's already banned.

1:03:24

Thank you, Ustaz. 🎵

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