Legendary UFC Fighter Don Frye Bullies EVERYONE | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 234

Yeah, you wanna go in there without shooting your butt? Like a wedding night, you know? It's in and out.

You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half.

Well, that ain't the worst of it, partner.

Straight up modern day gladiators, dude. We can rebuild them. Stronger, faster, hordier.

Waaah!

Let's just lift weights.

Oh, come on, sweetheart.

Brandon, we're so sorry!

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I'm quitting the podcast due to breach of contract.

Firing Finn.

Again?

Again, Finn. Why are you still here, Finn? Last week and the week before,

we have fired you so many times.

Why do you bring Cody around? He just keeps firing Finn.

Then we have to rehire him moments later. It confuses him. He's scared right now.

Litigation is a nightmare.

It's just, we've been in a legal battle with our camera guy for two years now.

Talk to our new HR guy, Don Fry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Take a number.

I quit.

I quit.

Here's a complaint box right here, boy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I quit. Here's a complaint box right here, boy.

Dude, you're just a walking merch line.

Here's your complaint box. Me and you guys showed up a little bit later than we did to brunch before we did me and Brandon and Don did the drink orders and Brandon orders, you know, Jack and Coke. I just had coffee. Don goes, I'll have bourbon. And the little bubbly waitress comes over

with her big smile, trying to get a good tip. She's like, okay, I have, and just starts reading off a laundry list of all these decadent mixed drinks. And Don just goes, can I just have bourbon? And then as she goes to walk away, he goes,

make it a double. I don't want you to wear your shoes out. Don't wear your shoes out.

It set the tone pretty fucking well.

It got it going. Oh man, yeah.

Poor little girl.

Okay, so.

I think she got her 10,000 steps in, you know.

Don, do you know how this works? On the count of three, we're gonna pop a top. Just buy that microphone.

I got you a beer.

Everyone ready? Three, two, one.

Oh, yeah.

Hi everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribed Podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, fat electrician. Don Fry, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator.

Thank you so much for being here.

Have a little spillage there, Nick?

A little bit.

It's okay.

The beer was shaking up, it's not my fault.

Sorry, well, it didn't blow up on, okay.

We could just beat Fenn again.

I blame Fenn. We just blame Fenn for sure. Fenn shook up my beer. Fenn. And kind of paper towel. The first HR needs a good idea.

There's no paper towels. We're setting up regular towels.

Thank you. Fuck up a two car funeral. A wet one. That's surprising coming from you.

This has been, I sat down, I look over to get my drink and I'm like, oh, Don's drinking whiskey. Just, okay, it's a glass, okay. I will take a mimosa. You need a skirt with that.

I'm like, here we begin.

Mimosa, a mimosa.

It's a man mosa, Don. When there's vodka in it, it's a man mosa.

Oh, okay. Yeah, because it's a potato, but potato alcohol. Is that what you mean? Just a walking potato, aren't you?

It's a commie alcohol.

Listen here, Don.

I do think we should hang up a picture in here that says human resources, Don Fry, and just have a picture just on the

wall. Employee of the Month.

Every month. We're adding that now. That's going right back there. Employee of the Month and HR. Just Don Fry. Don Fry, HR department. Face never changing.

How are you doing brother?

We have been so excited to have you on this episode. This is why all of us are here.

Yeah.

It's been a couple of months in the, in the making getting the teams aligned and then the schedules aligned, but thank you so fucking much for coming.

Nice to be here. Nice to be here. Thanks for having me guys. Coming up with a mustache and beard wax. I'll get you three. Whenever you decide to grow one, we'll get you one.

Asian and Mexican heritage.

Got a kitty formula for you.

There's four months in the world.

What's up?

Are you trying to grow a mustache?

One day.

I'll hit puberty. Three packages of beard product and one package with the beard product and a bottle of Rogaine.

It's just formula.

What's the brand going to be called?

Formula, there you go.

And a little nipple bottle. Yeah, I'm sorry.

What's the brand going to be called?

You know, that's a good question. I kind of jumped the gun on that one. Didn't I?

I think it's Don Fry something or other.

Toxic masculinity is a good, good line for that too. Yeah, it should be. It should be. That's a really good title for a beard oil.

We were hanging out with a, with Baker, Brandon and I went on a dove hunt with him and he was asking about you the whole time. He's like, how sushi burrito doing? I love Baker. This is our sushi burrito. Speaking of sushi, fish and a tortilla, I'm just the schnitzel burrito. I owe the, the, the joke is, uh, cause it's German ancestry and Mexican. So it's just a schnitzel.

We'll be over there. What's the joke? No, it's not. It's just reality. Okay. He's just half half German. I don't know

why I say the racist word for the Mexican side. Sorry.

Sauerkraut. Some refried beans and sauerkraut. Dude, Don, we did a good podcast with his grandmother. Oh, yeah. Who uh was in Nazi occupied Germany. It was fun hearing her stories. Yeah. Cuz like she what She inadvertently attended some of the Hitler rallies. As a small child. She's 93 years old. She was a German civilian during World War II in Mannheim, Germany. I'm very, very lucky that she's still around and very sharp

still and can remember all these stories of what it's like growing up under a Nazi occupation. Crazy stories. She needs a need to record that and force

the kids of today to listen to it you know. Yeah they had it kind of hard.

Yeah they got no idea. No zero idea. Not being able to go to school because it got blown up. Right. Like we think we have fucking problems today you know. We're

very blessed and a lot of people don't realize that. No they don't. They never get up. It's like we think we have fucking problems today, you know. We're very

blessed and a lot of people don't realize that. No, they don't. They never get a outside their own city block, you know. They don't get more than 200 yards away from their house and they want to bitch and complain, you know, about the country. This is the greatest country on the planet, you know. Texas? Texas. Texas. Oh yeah, this is number two.

It's horrible.

USA, I forgot you guys are kind of slow. Let me speak slower here.

Man, to the individuals or the audience that don't know who you are, can you give a brief, hey, this is why the guys are so fucking hype

that you're here.

Because you are an OG legend. Hey, this is why the guys are so hype that you're here. Because you're an OG legend.

Hey, this is why the guys are so fucking hype that I'm here.

He bullies us. And that's the only reason we are so stoked to have him on.

Human resources.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The gang gets bullied for two hours.

He threw my tampon at me.

Yeah.

So you were two-time UFC champion, right?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Two-time. Two-time.

Fought in the UFC for a year. How many fights you have?

I had 10 fights in the UFC and then also 11th fight over in Japan that year. It was in November, so it was a few weeks before the ultimate ultimate two, you know? And they weren't happy about it, you know, but that's hell there. They're paying me $25,000. You want to pay me? I'll stay home.

So back when you were fighting, it was tournament style. So what's the most amount of fights you had in a night?

We'd fight three times a night. If you're lucky enough to win, yeah, you advance three fights.

So I have so like UFC today, obviously, every dude that goes into a fight is watching footage of the other fighters because it's much more Available now than it was for you. So, I mean, you're like doing groundwork like, oh, this guy does this. I'm going to do that. And there's all this game planning that goes in when you're planning on fighting

one or two or three guys a year. You don't know much about them.

Like what's your strategy going into the first fight compared to the second and third fight? Are you trying to conserve energy on the first fight?

Yeah. the first fight. Yeah you want to go in there without shooting your butt. You know you want to go in there just like a wedding night. You know you're in and out like that.

So and again anyone that doesn't know when you have a fight now you'll have a fight camp that's a few months long and then you will the next thing you are watching the individual you were fighting. You were studying there's a lot more cameras, everything's filmed now. Back in that time, this is three big-ass fights with three highly talented fighters all in the same evening. And however many rounds those lasted,

at that time, what was it?

Well, they were all one round, but there was no break. You know, you would just go until the fight was over. There were no rules, no weight classes. Jesus Christ. Oh, there's two rules. Nobody, no aggie outing, but those are more guidelines and rules.

Everybody did it anyways.

This is like full-on stomping on your face. Like, I was showing Brandon some.

Soccer kick, heel stomps, yeah.

I mean, they did it all. So how much did you know about your opponents going in at times? Like were there ever times where you like didn't know if your opponent was a ground guy or a striker? Did you kind of have an idea of what their style was?

Or you knew nothing? What they did, you had their style. Back then it was more style versus style. And so you just find out what the style was of the other seven competitors, and then you plan for it accordingly.

And most of them were, the majority of them were stand-up fighters. So you knew all you had to do was get them on the ground.

When you were doing it, were gloves required or optional?

No, they were optional.

They were optional still? You chose to wear them, though, right?

I chose to wear them because yeah, because I hit hard. And I still broke my hand, broke my hand twice. You can see the surgery scar there.

You wore shoes too?

Yeah, except for in the Ultimate Ultimate, I went barefoot in that one.

The reason, or you had to?

No, I just, for some reason I decided not to because I knew Ken Shamrock was gonna be in there. And so I just didn't want him getting a hold of me, you know, with his shoe.

Oh, leg walks.

Yeah, yeah, because he is dangerous, you know?

What was, even getting into that, what was that transition from, hey, we talked earlier, you did some boxing and then wrestling, and what was that blending of the arts where it was the first time of, hey, here's a different type of fighting where it's MMA.

It's, hey, we're grappling and throwing fists. What was that first experience outside the UFC?

Well, you know, like I said, I wrestled in high school, college, little international. And then I did, after college wrestling, I did a year and a half pro boxing, had eight fights. I think it was, I was two, five and one, or two and six. Wasn't very good at it.

And-

It's hard.

Yeah, yeah, it's hard to pick up, you know, late in life. And then I got out and I just worked for a few years. And my first marriage started going bad, so I found a judo club, so I started doing judo, you know, so I could stay away from the house, you know.

It was, you know, I was a fireman on my days off, I was shoeing horses, you know, and what little time I had left. I went to the judo club and released my release my frustration. I true

love those poor guys.

You still being a bitch? I'm gonna go shoot the horses and throw a guy across the room.

You were telling us earlier you were I didn't know this about you. You were a firefighter for a couple of years in Los Angeles.

No, no, no. I started out in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Oh, okay. Cause um, I took a civil college for something and somebody told me about, um, being a firefighter and only working 10 days a month. I said, well, that's a job for me. You know, cause I'm a lazy son of a bitch. And so I took my EMT and got out the old phone book

back then, you know, we had a phone book and I went through every town in the state of Arizona. Nobody was hiring. So then I called up Santa Fe, New Mexico, cause you know, it's the capital of a state, so you figure they pay good.

No, they didn't pay worth a shit. I went there, they said, yeah, we're going about to run a test, hiring most people. So I went over there and passed everything, and then went for the interview,

and he says, you only pay this much a month, this comes out this much a week, comes out this much a day, which is about $4 an hour. Are you okay with that? I'm thinking, these guys are full of shit. They're just here to see if I'm here for the money or not. I said, no, no, that sounds great.

I just want to be a fireman. Got my first check. I was like, holy balls, $4 an hour. And I loved it there. It was beautiful. Santa Fe is beautiful.

You know, people are great, but I couldn't afford to live there. So I was there for about a year. I went through the academy, lived at a buddy's house, and went through the academy. And then I was there, like I said, for about a year. And then we couldn't afford to live there anymore. Had to move my wife back home and I went off to Oklahoma horse showing school, learned how to shoe horses. Came back and worked some odd jobs

and while I'm trying to establish my business and then started on the Friar fire department, no relation, you know, and as a reserve and worked for them and then finally their position came open with Bisbee fire. So I got hired at Bisbee.

Nice man, that's wild. They couldn't even pay the people who were keeping

your house from burning down enough to live in the town.

Yeah.

That's a lot of nuts, man. I'm noticing the recurring theme of wife went home, you went to Oklahoma.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'd pack up and leave.

Oh, there's more to that story, too.

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See I would say 97 to Shit 2008

Dang, yeah during that period. What was it like being in Japan is the most aggressively American man on the planet

I went over there. It was fun Was the culture shock like the first time you were there and the poor people you you walk down the street and You know because they just had everything ripped from them, you know after war. Yeah, and There's like no hope in their them, you know, after World War II. Yeah. And there's like no hope in their eyes, you know. But they come to the wrestling matches or the fights and that's where they have their excitement, you know. They come alive, they come alive for that stuff.

That's awesome.

Did you participate in some of the wrestling events, like the pro wrestling side? Yeah, I'm been a pro wrestler for four years. No shit! Yeah. See that's and that's wild so you have pro wrestling in Japan is very different than American pro wrestling and those fighters your Sakurabos like yeah the Gracie Hunter he was a wrestler pro wrestler too but also a fantastic fighter. How was that experience going over there and like hey this is pro wrestling too, but also a fantastic fighter. How was that experience going over there?

And you're like, hey, this is pro wrestling, but it's also legitimate on the side of, we can hurt, we can really hurt you.

It's more like fighting, fighting over there?

Yeah, but it's stiffer. It's not, it's still a work, you know, but it's a stiffer. And I guess I got a little bit too stiff. And got a couple, I called a potato, and if I gave you a big potato, you would give me a receipt. Couple of times, got my neck broke.

No shit, that's a big potato.

Yeah, a big potato.

It's a hot potato.

I was on my hands and knees and a guy stomped me and he stomped it and I heard a crack. I go, that don't sound good.

Yeah.

Oh, fuck. And worked on it for a year and a half. And then I started, that's when I noticed this was going wrong, this was going wrong. And then finally got the x-ray and the MRI, and the doctor said, well, you got a broken neck. And he says, you got to stop this shit.

And I says, well, I can't. I got the Tokyo Dome, you know, January 4th. And she says, you can't do that. You got a broken neck. I says, you don't understand, I work for the Japanese. I gotta do it, you know.

Holy shit.

Yeah, I called him up and says, hey, doctor says I can't wrestle, you know, I'm the fourth, because I got a broken neck. And here, right, right, right, right, right. Donson, we know it's your neck and your health and all, but we've already advertised. You think you can push it one more time?

The other guy at least kind of go easy on you knowing that, you know, he couldn't kill you. I hope so. Yeah.

Stop being a bitch.

How long was it between breaking your neck and getting the MRI and finding out you had broken your neck?

I had broken it. I had broken it and worked on it for a year and a half. You know, because that's how dumb I am.

You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half.

Well, that ain't the worst of it, partner.

Jesus, okay.

Go on. They fixed it in 2000 and then I went back to fighting in 2001. And then, let's see, May 2010, I broke it again in 08 or 09. And May 2010, May 2011. Where am I getting the dates wrong?

Hell, my dates may be fucked up here. But anyways, I had-

We're not questioning it.

One year, I had five surgeries, neck surgeries. And then I was good for a couple of years. And then I had a truck accident. My tire blew out, bounced me against the guardrail twice and pitched me into the median. I thought, hey, I'm good, I survived that.

I'm good to go. And my back started aching just a little bit. Anyways, two years later I found out I broke it in that accident again. So I broke my back and...

These are like each individually like career ending injuries.

Yeah, yeah. I'm too dumb.

That is it.

The typical guy of, I'm not going to the doctor.

Yeah.

I'm fine.

Yeah.

I'm fine.

Sir, your spine's broken.

I just take some pills and drink some alcohol and I'll walk it off.

I know you don't go to a checkup, but it'd be funny to take you to one and record it just to hear the doctor read your health chart out loud. I see you broke your neck in 1999 and in 2008, and then you broke your back and then you broke your hand twice.

Yeah, well, the first time I broke my neck was in 86, um, back when I was in college wrestling and, uh, me and Dan Severance younger brother, rod, we went down to my house, my parents' house. And we went out, we were drinking and had those three wheelers.

One of those traps.

Yeah.

No, the big reds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so the illegal things. one of those folks. Oh, they got trapped? Yeah. With the big reds? Yeah, yeah.

The illegal things?

Yeah.

So we're drinking and riding the thing and jumping and all this on this course, and then we see some guys pulled up in their suits with the shoulder pads and elbow pads and gloves and helmets. Look at the little sissies. I go, okay, one more. suits with the shoulder pads and elbow pads and gloves and helmets. You know, look at the little sissies. You know, I'll get one more.

Boom, boom, boom, boom. Broke my neck. And then didn't know that either. I didn't know that until 2001 when they fused, when they fixed, I broke a neck from wrestling, you know, they said, when did you, when did you break your neck the first time? I said, I didn't know I did.

Dear God.

All right, Finn, next time you call him for a sick day, you're gonna have to talk to HR, okay?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They just said, I don't get sick anymore.

You're damn right you don't.

Yeah. sick anymore. It's like that. It reminds me of the assassination.

Now sick gets me.

The assassination of Jesse James for the guy tries to get up in the middle of the night. He pulls a pistol. I just got to go to the bathroom. You think you do, but you don't.

Jeez. So every I've talked to a lot of, you know, first generation MMA guys and pro wrestlers and stuff. They all have a crazy story about going to Japan and going out drinking with the Yakuza or something crazy happens after their fight in Japan. You got a story like that?

Not that I can remember.

Well, it must've been a good one.

Yeah.

It was one of the funnest nights in Japan, like with that audience. You were like, I know you became friends, I don't know if it was during Pride or after with Takayama. Yeah. Were you guys, like, did you ever party with him?

No, we didn't party because You know after after our fight he went to the hospital, you know, yep. God bless him and I Think he might have went to the party for a little bit, but they kept us separated You know because you know after after the party they sell they'll sell tickets to people You know, there'll be a000 people at these after parties.

Holy shit.

Yeah. And they're all paying $1,000 or what have you to rub elbows with you. And so you're there drinking and taking photos and all that good stuff.

Is that like a club-type environment, just like blasting music and you're hanging out with people in a quiet bar?

It's not in between somewhere, cause they have a big buffet and they have food and then they have a lot of alcohol, big sake barrels.

It's like the official after party kind of thing.

They have sake barrels?

Yeah, oh yeah.

The Japanese love to drink, I'm sure you've seen that. They have sake barrels. Yeah. Oh yeah. The Japanese love to drink. I'm sure you've seen that.

They.

They get it after it.

I've seen the, like the, the viral videos online of the Japanese businessmen that just they're laying on the street after work because they got shit house.

Yeah.

And there are people that come around and like bring them water and stuff.

And that's part of the culture.

Dude is fucking wild waking up at Sunday we went to bed we got drunk early passed out woke up early and it's like 6 in the morning I walked around just to a 7-eleven there is shit-wrecked old Japanese businessman passed out in the shrimp like what walk into 7-eleven walk out and there's an old Japanese dude in a suit pissing in front of me I was like

imagine that's just the culture where you're just like, it's Sunday morning, it's like, there's my dad.

Yeah.

They go hard, especially. They are very much just, hey, I'm ABC, that's all I'm doing today.

Oh, they work their ass off.

That's it, yeah.

And it's just like, boom, boom, boom.

They party their ass off. small island, you know, with a lot of people. And so there's limited housing, you know, limited space. So, you know, you can only buy so much electronics, you know, equipment, so much furniture, so much clothes, you know, and so you gotta have something to spend your money on. You can't save enough money to buy a house

out in the country. So, you know, that money's for entertainment.

And they fucking love entertainment.

Yeah. Oh, no.

Is that with how the fight culture is over there? Because that's very different. It sounds like for even the after party, it's everyone's paying money just to hang out, socialize with you guys.

And then you've just done three fights and now are drinking and partying? Over there. I only had to fight one once, once a night.

So only,

you only have to put yourself in the ring with one professional fighter at a

time.

Yeah. One professional. That's what people, Oh, I can do that. No, you can't. That's a professional athlete, you know, and he's trained, he's trained to kick your head off buddy. And this was this was still when there was no lightweight classes Oh, yeah pride there in the way class going in there. Yeah

so have you ever seen the highlight of the Big Daddy Goodrich the black guy and he gets the one dude in a crucifix and elbows him in the head He's wearing like a white geez that was round one of the tournament Don Fry caught it to fought him in the second round

Third sorry you fought him that night from that highlight finals yeah yeah so like you got to see him do that to somebody and then you went in the cage with him no i missed

that i'm glad i missed that i'd probably pack my year left yeah you won yeah if you guys have

never seen that one that's crazy i forgot about about that because you can see what's the big black dude's name? Gary Goodrich. Yeah, he's just like, I forgot what he realizes. Hey, I can just elbow this guy and just

fucking goes to town on that is 20 times. Oh, Gary's cock strong man. It was like a horse, you know, getting hit by the tempo of his elbow. How do you

like my face to elbow style?

Yeah.

Instantly.

That guy's gone.

Oh, Gary's Gary's a monster.

It's so crazy though, that when you were doing this fighting three times a night, Gary had a legendary highlight reel goes into another round the same night. And then you end up beating him.

Yeah.

And so it's like, I don't know, it's just weird. You could have legendary highlight reel. I imagine that feels great to do. And then you still end up losing at the end of the night.

So it's like.

Still want the W, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What'd you beat him with?

He tapped, he was worn out. He's pretty much worn out. Because it was down in Puerto Rico, so you're talking 100% humidity. You're talking about 150 degrees underneath those lights. You know, so.

Dude, you're finding a sauna.

Holy shit.

They didn't have AC.

Oh, hell no.

Puerto Rico, didn't you hear?

Hell yeah, hell no.

How much did you weigh at that time?

I weighed a 200 pounds at that time. I said it was two Oh five. I was only 200. Gary was quite a bit bigger than you at the time. He's probably closer to yeah. Two 50, two 60. Yeah.

Jesus Christ. Big old boy.

Big size advantage when you watch them fight.

Yeah. You get to see the discrepancy in those weights and you're like, oh god, that's terrifying. Oh, in a sauna. Yeah, in a sauna.

No, I mean, it probably worked in his favor at that point, though. Bigger dude wears out, especially if he's fighting three times a night.

So, oh yeah.

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Which fight was it in all of that where you're like, fuck me, I have another fight to do after this one? Which was the biggest like, oh, it's awesome.

Probably after the second fight. God, I got one more and I'm done, you know, for the night. For the night.

One more before I can clock out for the month.

Yeah, basically we were fighting every couple of months back then. You know, that was February. Next fight was in May. And then the next fight was early July. And, next fight was in May, and then the next fight was early July, and the next fight was September, and then December.

And each one of those is how many fights per tournament if you do the best you can, three?

Yeah, three fights, yeah.

So no matter what, every three months you're fighting?

Three fights.

I'm curious also, what was your recovery process like after one of those hardcore

fights?

Oh man, it was tough. You know, drink a lot of water and hope to absorb it.

You just laying in bed, like watching TV and drinking water.

Nothing fixes a broken neck.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Once I got home, it was, it took two weeks to recover. If you didn't get hurt. If you did not get hurt.

Jesus.

You just try to relax as much as possible?

The wife.

Yeah. It's me. It's like, this sounds really stupid, okay? And I don't mean to demean you, but it's like coming back from war, you know? You gotta deescalate everything.

Or coming out of prison, you know, something like that. You know, you equate it to that. Because, you know, all your time went into training. You know, you train 24 hours a day. Eat, sleep, you know, train. Everything is calculated for, you know, six weeks, six, eight weeks.

And then boom, you hit it and then boom, it's all gone. It's over.

It's super interesting. I never thought about that. It is, Hey, I'm focusing for the sole purpose, your entire, your hyper fixated, hyper-focused on that event for those three fights, your entire, you're hyper fixated, hyper focused on that event for those three fights, your elevated testosterone, everything's elevated and then it's gone. And then empty.

You're like, fuck, okay, what do I, yeah, that would be a weird coming off of that high.

Coming off prisoner, coming, you know.

Coming back from military, exactly.

Yeah, TDY or something. And you're just sitting there going, now what? Where am I doing? Where am I at? And then just getting reinstilled into society, because you remove yourself from society when you're training for six or eight

weeks, because everything is just about the fight game. I mean, you watch TV. We were just watching fights. That's your downtime, is watching fights. And otherwise, you're jogging. You're hitting the bag. You're lifting weights. And otherwise, you're jogging, you're hitting the bag, you're lifting weights, you're wrestling, you're sparring, other than that, or you're fucking. That's the only release

that's on the release kit.

Let's just lift weights. Oh, come on, sweetheart. Not you and I, dummy. You're the girl. I had to throw the blazing saddles right where it's at. Let's play chess.

Let's play chess.

Well, brother, you're not-

Don's got that look in his eye like all the horses have been shooed.

Oh, no.

Brandon, we're so sorry.

Feed him, Don. We just pushed Brandon down.

Don hungry.

Let's send Mongo. Sorry. Feed a dog. We just push Brandon down.

Dog hungry.

Let's send Mongo.

Let's send Mongo.

There we go.

What did you say, Cody?

I was just gonna say,

I wanted to ask you also, what do you do to relax these days? Are you a hunter? You still playing around with horses?

I play with a horse. I haven't hunted in a decade because of my back. Okay. My back's still bad and I'm too undisciplined and too lazy to go to the gym and get it fixed. And too cheap to go to the chiropractor. Well, the chiropractor can't do anything for me

because I got this much of my back is used, 11 levels, so can't do anything.

What's your relax time then, man?

What do you do?

I got an English Bulldog named Quinn.

Just chill?

Yeah, me and Quinn and I, excuse me, hang out and fart on each other.

Yeah.

And then my girlfriend Lisa, she's got an animal rescue, so we go over there and I shove a lot of goat shit, you know, and water goats and horses all day long.

Nice man.

Dude, going back to just that mindset when you're coming out of a fight camp after the fight, is it, are you hit with depression ever during that?

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

And so it's like looking at you and how you talk about exact same feeling of, man, okay, you actually go through each stage of depression. I don't have a mission. What am I, am I worth anything? And that's after you came out like winning and you still have that mindset's wild, but also shows how that can affect you. You're like, no mission. Now you're like, ugh's that singular focus that you had this much time. And now

it's gone. The other thing I'm curious about is cause like you knew you were going to do it all over again in three months. So I mean, what's your motivation be like, well, I don't want to start anything else new cause I got to go through all this bullshit again in three months. So you're just kind of sitting there twiddling your thumbs like fuck. You know what I mean? Like imagine if you went on a deployment and you had two months off before you had to go into pre-mob again.

Oh, I know. That's what you're like. And then afterwards, you're also trying to, how do I scale past this? I won, but what's the next step?

Right, right.

Well, I mean, like I said, for two weeks, you're in depression, you know? pulled out from underneath of me. Everything you were and are was taken away from you. Even if you won or lose. Then like you said, you gotta start all over again. You look forward to that next assignment.

I bet.

I guarantee that's why you killed it even harder like coming right back into it

Did you train harder? Oh, yeah, cuz of it when Coleman when Coleman beat the hell out of me, you know I just I was obsessed with that fight. I watched it every day. I watched it every day for Probably three two or three years, you know until I finally let it go.

And that was hard?

Yeah, it was, yeah.

Because you go back and you're like, I made this mistake here. It's that what if I did this instead.

Well, I woke up sick that day. I dinked.

Also a big one.

Yeah. The night before I told Art Davies, he wanted me to fight Gary first round. I said, bullshit. I said bullshit, you know, I just fought him, you know, three months ago, you know, in the finals. So give me somebody else, give me somebody easier. He needs me on the other side or something. And

so I says, you know, I'm not gonna fight him. He says, well, we'll see about that. And I said, well, you know, I'm not feeling good.

I don't know.

I don't feel good. I'm going to have to pull out. You know,

I'm an amateur over here.

Yeah.

You're going to talk to fucking HR about this.

HR, break his kneecaps.

Nick got in trouble. Don has the phone. Nick got in trouble. Don has his phone. You have to talk to the teacher after class. I know.

Bailiff, whack his pee pee.

Give me that phone.

Don's going to make my mom come here and get it for me, guaranteed. What was your what were your training camps like when, back when you were doing it? Cause like now it's, you got the UFC performance center. They, these guys aren't eating a single grain of a grain of rice that isn't planned by a dietitian.

It's all super scientific and they've got chiropractors and medical professionals on staff. It was all on your own, you know? So you're just out there doing Rocky shit in the barn.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Getting ready to beat the out of people.

Well, that's why I had my heavy bag was out in the barn. You know? And then I'd go running through the hills, you know? I'm lucky I got a real nice place, couple acres right at the base of the mountains. So I'd go running through the desert and the mountains, and then go down to the weight room.

And I had a bunch of good guys. Sam Sotelo, he was from a Marine family. Rich Marino, he was an ex-Marine. Rainy Martinez, he was a former sniper in the SEALs. Steve Owen was the coach. He was a judo sensei.

He was a stud. He's like a seventh degree black belt. He's just a stud.

You were just hanging out with hard motherfuckers

all day long.

Oh yeah. That's awesome, man.

And so they were always there for me. Anytime, anytime. I had them, they, they were always there for me. You know, any time, any time. I had them, they showed up at 2 o'clock in the morning for me one time, you know.

Shit. Yeah.

That's a good group of boys. Yeah.

That's a good thing. You count on them.

Damn.

Back when you were still training for the fights back in the day, would you still drink? You bet your ass I needed calories I cut

It's impossible to find calories elsewhere I kind of figured that might be the answer there's a pork chop in every can okay?

loaf of bread the guys

They go over bread. I know it's God. I'm trying to I'm blanking on his name golf. Oh Daily yeah, John Daly. Yeah, the John Daly of fighting. Holy shit. He is the John Daly. I'm fighting

I bet I ate about 8,000 calories a day Cuz I mean it's 24-hour job, you know But when my kids were born you know I could be in town you know face one workout and it would take 45 minutes to get to my house you know and then 45 minutes or an hour to get to the next spot you know from the house whereas it would only and then 45 minutes or an hour to get to the next spot, you know, from the house.

Whereas there would only be like 20 minutes from where I was at, you know. I would go home just to see my kids for 10, 15 minutes, you know. I'd spend 45 minutes on the road there to get there for 15 minutes, then 45 minutes, you know, just to see my kids while they were awake.

Because I was gone that much. Right.

It's raining.

Yeah. I don't think a lot of people realize the dedication to be at that level, especially when it's a new sport at that time. Brand new sport. Yeah.

And then you're, what was, how'd that first call from Pride UFC go about? What was the first offer? Like, hey, do you want to do this?

For the UFC, like I said, I got ahold of Dan Severn. Dan the B-Severn. Dan the B-Severn, yeah.

Oh, he's another OG.

Yeah, oh yeah, he's great. And he got me a few fights across the country, and still waiting on the paycheck from him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dan, what the fuck?

Yeah, still waiting on the paycheck.

They say the Unsub podcast calls out Dan.

That's what I'm saying.

Talk to HR.

Or Autistic.

Oh, yeah.

This is your complaint box.

Yeah.

You want us to pour you another one?

Sure.

Yeah.

Oh yeah, too easy.

Sure.

Same stuff?

Yes, sir. Please. And Dan was getting ready for the first Ultimate Ultimate. Because he had placed second in number four and won number five and then lost a super fight against Shamrock in number six. Or yeah, number six. And, um, so he'd get ready for ultimate first ultimate ultimate.

So I went up there on my days off for the fire department and trained with him you know and I was just his chief throwing dummy he was tossing me around you know anything you you get guys that would come in they'd oh I want to help train you you know for the UFC you know they'd be there once and then they disappear they never come back.

And-

So you were probably fucking them up, right?

No, I mean, this was Severin. Severin was fucking them up.

He was out of horses to shoe, you know.

So, I was, like I said, I was just his chief towing dummy. And so then we went to the first Ultimate Ultimate and it was in Denver and he introduced me to the UFC people and then Sometime in January they called me up and said hey, you know, we got a fight February 8th. You want to do it? Yeah, you bet your ass

So, you know, we we went to that fight in Puerto Rico

No, that's awesome. And then to see where is now I bet is

Mind-blowing. Oh, it's crazy because they had said At the arena there in Puerto Rico. They had those, you know, blue plastic tarps as walls separating, you know the big clothesline and blue tarp separating for your locker room, you know? And now they got everything. Hell, we didn't even have a scale. We didn't even weigh in.

You know, they just took your word for your weight.

What the fuck?

For a fight, why?

I mean, if there's no weight classes, fuck it.

How much you weigh, look at it.

Maybe. Straight up modern day gladiators, dude.

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The other part too is like now in the UFC, it's like, they call a UFC fighter. They're like, we want you to fight this person and they know who that person is. And there's guys that are like, no, I don't want to fight that guy. I do want to fight that guy. Or if I'm going to fight that guy, I need this much money. And you're just over here. Like, sure.

I'll fight three random dudes on February 8th. Did they was there really like a betting culture around fighting at the time? Oh, I'm sure there was Cuz now the only reason I ask is because now like everything so stats heavy. It's like this guy's fighting in it this weight Here's his record. Here's his reach. Here's his you know, everything They've got all these stats and people use that to like bet on fights

I didn't know how the fuck it would work back then. I don't know either because you know, just you just pick a name I guess then. I don't know either because you know just you just pick a name I guess. That guy seems right. Yeah I like the sound of his name. What the hell. He's got

seven letters. That guy might look tougher than the other guy. We'll pick him.

Right. You were talking about hey I don't want to fight that guy out the gate. Let's put him at the end of it so So if you guys meet, it makes a better title fight.

Well, that was big daddy Goodrich and he had beat him in the final on the

previous show so that he's like, why fight again?

Yeah.

First round.

You don't put both number one seeds in the first game in the tournament.

Yeah.

Right.

Number one, number two. Yeah. Yeah, number one number two. Yeah, you don't put them in there the fight in the first round What was their response to that? Like oh, did they actually like oh that doesn't make sense We'll put them down and then I got a phone call from the owner Bob Meyerowitz and he says listen to me I'm not gonna have no goddamn athlete. Tell me how to run my show He's a I'm gonna change it just this one time, you know But you still you're like, no, that's me.

Don't ever expect it again, you know? But no, it was silly. We had fought in the finals and they wanted us to go to the first round. It was silly.

He called you an athlete like a slur.

Yeah.

Goddamn athlete.

Well, he is from Manhattan. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Holy shit.

What was, in your entire career, what was the hardest fight for you? Were you like this?

No.

That's the one. That fucking sucked.

Oh, that'd be the Coleman fight. You know, first Coleman. Both Coleman fights I lost. But the second fight, I know, first Coleman, both Coleman fights I lost, but the second fight I really wasn't there. But the first Coleman fight, yeah, I was like I said, I woke up sick and just went downhill from there and we even thought about pulling out, you

know, after the second fight, man, I'm done, I got nothing left. And then I looked at the alternates. And if I had pulled out and they'd have sent in one of them alternates, there wouldn't have been the UFC after that. They'd have closed it down because they were trying to shut it down as it was. No doubt. Yeah.

They would, like in UFC 8, they spent all day in the courthouse, you know, trying to, trying to keep it going because the governor was gonna shut it down, Puerto Rico was gonna shut it down. Because there's a lot of

like, this is human cockfighting. It was everyone fighting it. Now it's on Main Street, people don't know. It was a huge... Now it's going to be on the front lawn of the white house.

I was just about to say to go in that short of time from something that was trying to be outlawed in fucking Puerto Rico of all places to something that the president of the United States routinely attends. That's a crazy jump in that short of a time span. Oh, I got it. Well, people don't realize like MMA is safer than boxing. Yes. Like,. Like, yeah, you wanna get knocked out once or you wanna get knocked out three fucking times and have the opportunity to stand back up. Like how many MMA fights would have kept going

if somebody had a 10 count to stand back up and go back in again, you know what I mean?

The CT, TBI.

If you get knocked out once

and then you get knocked out three more times back to back to back that's so bad for you. And you're getting up some of those big fights I mean you look at like the Mickey like man there's a handful of boxing fights

when you watch it is. Two of the greats.

Hey there we go.

Yeah that was cool that was so slick. You ever ever talk to him like actually get a chance to chat You know what? I choked I mean, I really think it allowed really lousy first impression. So I Just say yes, sir, no, sir, and Get the hell out of there, you know for my buddy. So I wanted to screw it up for him So he get his photo taken and get the hell out of there, you know, for my buddy. So I wanted to screw it up for him

so he can get his photo taken.

It's kind of funny to see, because to my understanding, Trump is a very big, just, he's a big fan of athleticism period, like sports and things like that. He just follows it, like whether it's golf, MMA, whatever. It's funny to see the people who show up around him who are very clearly like, I won't name any names, but like pencil pushers that have no interest in watching

gladiatorial combat. Just watching the difference between how invested Trump is and like the people to his left and right sometimes, depending on who he brings. Right. Right.

That's funny.

I also think you make great first impressions, Don.

We've already hired you to beat the fuck out of our interns.

HR. It's official.

You'd hire anybody for that.

The opening line was Fenn could fuck up a two car funeral.

That's on a good day.

You're going to die.

So I asked you at breakfast, got two daughters yeah to which I immediately said what was what was it like the first time they brought a boy home and you got kicked out of the house. I was already kicked out of the house. Who's your dad? No one. We'll talk about that later.

You tell me your dad's name. His nickname's the predator. Well the last name of Fry should give some concern.

Oh man. Oh hell. You got kicked out. I got kicked out. My youngest daughter, I guess they don't talk about it. My youngest daughter, her boyfriend didn't know anything about me for a while until my friend says, do you know who her dad is and what he did? No. He said, sit down, let me show you this DVD.

I'm saying him walking into your house, seeing like a trophy here and a ribbon there and

just like, oh, fuck.

I don't have those.

You don't? No, no. They all disappeared in the divorce. A lot of my ship just boarded the divorce. Actually,

half of it. That had to be a very... Oh, more than half. Half I'd be happy about. A f***ing rude awakening though for that guy. Yeah. Oh shit. I'm alive because he wills it to be so

Can't break up with her

I'd do it if they can handle my my daughters. I'm nothing

Imagine getting compared to your father-in-law like that, your whole life. Yeah.

You know, my dad would have done blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I bet.

My dad can beat your dad up, I know.

Yeah.

I got it.

Yeah.

I understand that.

You have no rebuttal other than that.

There was one, oh, it's such a funny picture. It was like a normal dude's Instagram. He had like 50 followers, normal guy's Instagram. Bigger, stockier black dude. And he's very obviously at like a middle school wrestling tournament,

sitting on the chair on the mat, coaching his kids. And he just takes a selfie like this. And in the background is Daniel Cormier looking at the mat, and he goes, man, Daniel Cormier is the other team's coach. What the fuck am I supposed to do? And it just like went viral.

He just went. You're screwed.

Yeah.

Go home.

What are some of the like, now with modern MMA, UFC, who are some of your big favorite fighters to watch?

I like Pereira. You know, I like watching him. You know, I think he was sick the last fight. You know, I saw him the night before. I just thought he was in the zone, you know, because he was focused, he was quiet, you know, real

stoic and, you know, just – but the nicest guy in the world. Took pictures – he took pictures for over half an hour with anybody who wanted to take a picture with him, you know, on – and he was on his way to go get dinner.

And the night before the fight.

Yeah, yeah, the night before. And, you know, gave up all that time. But I, and I thought he was focused, gonna win until I saw him walk out. I saw him walking out, I thought, there's something wrong with this guy's off. You know, then I wanted to change my,

wanted to change my opinion, you know? I hit that, no.

Watching some of those skinnier guys like him

with unlimited cardio fight, that's some of those skinnier guys like him with unlimited cardio fight.

That's some of the best fucking fights to watch, man.

Yeah.

They have all that energy.

Who else?

Like any of the heavyweights or?

Uh, no. Um, God dang it. Um, who's the guy from the, from Arizona? Um, God dang it. I can't believe I can't remember his name.

Which weight class? Like a middleweight or lighter middle. Gachi? Justin Gachi. Yeah. He's awesome. He's great. That's him and Tony Ferguson's probably my favorite UFC fight of all time. Yeah, it's a it was, it was the craziest part is when you go back and watch it now. Cause I got reused to normal UFC fights during COVID. There was no audiences. So it just sounds different when Justin Gage, he fought Tony Ferguson and it's

just dead quiet. Cause there's no audience. Justin Gage, he hits like a truck and he hit Tony Ferguson a lot. And it's just every strike sounds like a fucking car crash. Is that the COVID fight when there wasn't? Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, he beat the shit out of Tony Ferguson. It was bad. But like I said, you could hear the impact of

every strike. Holy shit. It changed fighting and watching it for that brief time because it did feel like you're watching a snuff film. Yeah, something illegal. You're like, oh, there's no cheer.

Oh, I don't, you just hear.

This isn't a sporting event. This is just two grown men trying to kill each other.

Yeah.

Oh, you know, it's funny. It's like, like 50 years ago, Terry Funk and Jerry Lawler had the empty arena match, you know, for a wrestling, empty arena match. And it was just, it was ridiculous, you know, because it was empty. It was just those two doing their normal wrestling shit, you know, with nobody there.

And then-

Totally different vibe.

Yeah, and then boom, 50 years later, it actually happens in real life.

Shit.

I'm curious what you think about Sean Strickland.

He's funny as shit.

Yeah, I kind of figured that would be the answer.

He's funnier as shit. I love him, man. I get a kick out of that boy.

He's probably my favorite fighter to follow on Twitter.

Yeah?

Yeah. Just the shit he says, and the shit he says in interviews and whatnot, he's just no filter.

None, none at all.

Bunch of guys from Dirk and Dirkistan wrestle fucking everybody.

The interview about like, oh, how do I say what in Chinese? Oh, how do I say work harder, child? I'm starting my own merch line, I need to be able to say these things.

He's squirrely, yeah, yeah, he's got it down man I some of the shit that comes off his mouth is him this gets me yeah he's funnier he's a good stick on I really enjoy him I think he's great and you know wishing most success oh my god he's keeping keeping him around you know hi

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No, we haven't done that in a while.

We haven't done it.

We have a, we have a recurring bit that we do with some of our bigger guests.

Yeah.

We have a, a pretend superhero group and we all have different superpowers and you get to pick your own superpower, but we get to pick the offset. So for example, Cody can fly. But in order to fly, he has to yell racial slurs.

He's a frequent flyer.

We get to

we like to joke with that when it's like, what if I'm having to rescue a bunch of kids from a section eight housing development? Like it's on fire. I just gotta bring in the ladder. I'm just carrying a ladder at that point. I'm not flying today.

Yeah, I did my house. So it's 20 years ago, I was gonna paint it Adobe, but somewhere you got screwed up and it ended up being orange, like those numbers there. You know, yeah, that color orange. And so, you can find it. You can find it, you know, just look for the orange house. And a new neighbor moved in and put up a wall

and then painted his wall the same color as my house. And I says, well, I thought I'd get in section eight housing coming in.

He looked at me like I fell off the truck. So what's your superpower gonna be?

Oh shit.

Any superpower in the world. Any superpower you want.

Any superpower I want. Yes. Oh man.

Well I think the caveat is if somebody already has that power they have to fight you to keep

it.

Yeah. Don gets any to keep it. Yeah.

Don gets any superpower he wants. Yeah.

There's gets changed.

Yeah.

Dang. A superpower. That would be, um, let's see. Either I can, what did I do?

Nah, I just have a little closer to you.

Screwed around. I screwed around and moved.

Oh, you're good, you're good.

I got a little too silly.

Yeah, no, it's perfect.

I like everyone's legs. Perfect.

Everybody bouncing around here. Let's see. It would be either seeing through women's clothes or being able to have an erection as long as I want, time. I will give you both

Killer combo your wife gets half chubby all the time. Yeah, she's just disappointed. It's almost there, but it's not.

The desire's there, but the ability's gone.

It's not you.

Not you, honey. I swear it's me.

It's not you.

I mean this in the best way possible.

It was my ex-wife.

You don't understand, honey. It's not you or me, it's her.

The offenders are here. Don, go in the corner.

Don't.

Stop looking, Don.

Stop that.

Oh man, it's a bad day to be a super villain. It's Don Fry with half an erection.

His super powers don't even have anything to do with his ability to fight crime.

You'll just beat your ass.

We just get him drunk.

What are you going to do?

Break my back?

People have tried.

Broke my back. Broke my neck. Yeah, OK. So I got two fake shoulders. That's been done. Fake hand. That's been done fake hand has been done

Bionic man at this point is this

Except it's the UFC we have to rebuild him. What is

He's gonna be hornier

We can rebuild them stronger, faster, hardier. See what that does.

What are the conversations with the surgeons go like when they tell you? I don't know. You probably shouldn't fight anymore after the second time breaking your neck and back or not.

I never gave me that.

They just gave up.

Okay, I'd like to think it was the same surgeon and like the fourth time you're in there. He's just smoking a cigarette

Listen here fucker we gotta talk this thing. I've been rewatching Landman He smashes his pinky with a hammer here and the surgeon comes in.

He's like, doctor, I don't want this son of a bitch anymore. And he pulls a pocket knife. I imagine that's you in there.

Like, I'm fine. Don't worry

about it. I need to watch this

show.

Sharon can't keep getting away

with this. He's doing too good of stuff.

I'm doing too good.

He's amazing, the shit he comes up with.

Bro, fucking Sicario.

Yeah, yeah, that's a great show.

Sicario, Yellowstone, 1883, 1923, Heller Highwater.

Wind River.

Wind River.

Landman, Tulsa King. The guy's everywhere. It's fucking insane.

Can't keep getting away with this.

Yeah.

It's fucking wild.

He's taking it as like a personal slice.

He bought that four, that four sixes ranch.

Yeah, dude.

Isn't that great? That's great.

Oh, and then he did the best thing ever.

He leases the ranch out to his show that he owns.

Yeah, yeah. He's brilliant. Brilliant. Fuck you, tax man. Yeah, yeah.

Making a good chunk of change.

Oh, yeah.

Great to show and have them pay for it, you know? Crime, you guys, brilliant.

And the chunk of change you needed to have to buy the four sixes in the first place.

Dear God.

Which is wild too. He didn't start off till he was like early 40s, he had some small roles in Hollywood here and there, and then he just came out of nowhere

writing all these fucking shows we just talked about.

It's wild.

It happens, you get those later starts in life and then it's just like.

I think he just witnessed Hollywood and he witnessed everything around him for years and then he poured all his time.

He was tired of the bullshit. Yeah, he was just tired of it and then poured his time and his knowledge into it.

Right.

He's crushing it, to say the least.

Can't keep getting away with this, Taylor Sheridan.

But please do.

But if you do, I need a role.

We would all just love to die on one.

Exactly, man.

That's what I've been saying. Like all of us just die so I can buy

another horse. Can I be random

henchmen? Don's just paid in

horses. I'll take two. Let me just the one from the show.

Hell yeah. You seen them horses that bald face on that show on yellow stone is a beautiful horse. God damn it. I

want Don Frye. God damn it, Sheridan Shell.

I love how he randomly rides himself into shit too. Like, Hell or High Water, it's like the detectives are going out, they're trying to find the bank robbers, and Sheridan just pulls up on his horse,

and he's like, yeah, just passing through.

He just rides himself in there randomly. It's like, he's like the Tarantino of Westerns. He's just like, I need somebody to be the super cool guy for a role. Except Tarantino is just like, I need somebody to say the N word and lick feet.

There needs to be a character to lick feet right now. It's me.

I'm going to play that character.

It has to be me. I'll take that position. Any volunteers? Depending on the feet you're looking though, you know?

Did you see that fucking, it was like the acceptance speech for like, I don't know, it was the Oscars or something, where it was Brad Pitt talking about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. He's like, I'd like to thank my co-stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Margot Robbie's feet, this actress's feet.

Who is the defeatist?

Tarantino has his the vices.

Bruce Lee's family, it was like, I think they were pissed off about that movie. Because I think the inspiration for that scene was because of Judo Jean Labelle.

Yeah.

Because I guess back in the day, you know, Judo Jean, right? Judo Jean, just badass judo guy. I think he was like one of the first Americans to get a black belt in judo. Oh yeah. Just a complete bad-ass. He was a great guy. He was a,

if you ever see the videos where Rhonda Rousey's highlight and it shows an old man balding with red hair and a stopwatch cause she won in like seven seconds. That's judo gene. LaBelle, he was one of her coaches. pinkie complete badass just to piss people off and just to fuck with him is give his pink I like this guy even more there's a little story me and John used

to wear pinkies all right yeah I thought that I'm donut thought it was a funny Yeah, but you're gay. It's different. It's just gay and gay's bullying. You're not buying it.

He is a left.

Yeah, or these were actually skirts, but it's fine. That's the fun part. He wouldn't let the mimosa joke go with the whole like

you need a skirt? How about a pink skirt?

But there's a story, I don't know how true it is, but allegedly there was some movie that Bruce Lee was doing and he was kind of being a dick to the stuntmen and extras, really hitting them harder than he needed to be. And they sent in Gene LaBelle, who was a stuntman at the time,

and they sent Gene in to correct the behavior. Apparently Gene just picked him up over his head and walked him around until he settled down and he couldn't do shit about it. It's like with a toddler. Yeah. Like, nah, nah, you're not gonna do this. And I guess that supposedly that was the inspiration for that scene of a stuntman taking it to Bruce Lee.

He also did that to Steven Seagal. Steven Seagal would take cheap shots onto the stuntman. So Judo Gene choked him out.

Choked him out

Out wait, is that when he shit his face? Yes. Yeah, that's really shit his pants And then drew a mustache on his face because gene gene would always put a mustache on people's faces after he choked him out

Well, yeah

Hold on pause. So Steven Seagal on this guy Steven's being a dick this guy chokes him out.

Yeah, Gene was probably 60, 70 years old at the time.

And then a 60, 70 year old judo master choked Steven Seagal out and then drew a mustache on him.

Yeah, yeah.

He's awesome.

That is amazing.

He sounds cool as fuck. You guys remember that cool ass TV show Steven Seagal was on where he pretended to be a cop?

Oh God.

I heard about it, I never saw it, but I heard about it.

Is that the one where he's sitting down

in a chair fighting people? I was just gonna bring that one up.

That was a movie.

That was so funny.

That was a movie. There was, at one point, he was like, And I'm a it's like a live PD kind of thing and it's just it's terrible fucking Steven Seagal pretending to go It's actual like live action like Call me real life. Oh, this isn't it? No, it's not I should show like not a scripted show Steven Seagal was like deputize me so I can have a reality TV show

And it's wild You should you should I'm to check it. Know that. No, any of those Steven Seagal movies, if you haven't watched, he still does them and he still writes them and they are, they're just all produced in Russia.

Trash.

And dear God, if you do just the recaps of them. So it's like 15 minutes long, just comedy gold.

I would love to see donut operator reacts to Steven Seagal's cop show. Remember, remember when Steven Seagal, when a Anderson Silva knocked out Vitor Belfort with a front snap kick. And then Steven Seagal is like, I'm the one that told Anderson Silva to do that in the back room. He took credit for Anderson Silva's like amazing. It was like one of the best knockouts of all time is this front snap kick clean

on the John just drops Vitor Belfort. And Steven Seagal's like, yeah, I was the one that recommended he do that maneuver actually.

Yeah.

Like, okay.

Anderson walked out with him a couple of times, you know, afterwards. It was like, Oh man, what are you doing?

You know, maybe, maybe everyone just loved him. Cause we grew up on his movies. It fell for the bullshit. And put a lot of us on the like martial arts. Cause I remember the one where he's

on the ship.

Famous undersea on the submarine or whatever. Yeah. The Navy seal that got reassigned or some shit. Yeah. I remember watching that and being like, I want to learn how to kick people.

You're like, I'm joining the Navy. There was nothing better than like,

did you join the Navy because of Steven Seagal?

No.

No.

No.

You said that all too fast.

There's nothing better than back when Spike TV was still a thing. It was like Tuesday night at midnight, the Steven Seagal movie marathon.

You fall asleep watching TV, you wake up, he's gained 80 pounds, still playing.

I just, I remember Spike TV.

Yeah, just the, ha, ha, and they go flying.

They just die.

Yeah, that face.

And you look up like, guys flying away,

and dying, heads exploding.

Spike TV is how I would hang out with my dad after work.

Thank you.

That's what I was thinking about, like waking up Saturday, Sunday morning, dad's cooking

breakfast and fucking a Steven Seagal movie is on Spike TV in the morning.

Yes, we're watching Independence Day.

Holy shit.

What were you doing?

All that shit.

Were you big into martial art movies growing up or Westerns?

More Westerns. Yeah. Yeah, John Wayne Clint Eastwood fan. Yeah, the OG's. What are your favorites? Oh True grit true grit the John Wayne to read. Yeah, I like the

Jeff Bridges true grit to it's I think it's a it's a better

Overall movie, but he still just couldn't match up to John Wayne. Even though he played him the exact opposite. John Wayne's yelling and loud, drunk, obnoxious drunk. He was just a drunk, mumbling fool. But they both did a great job. And, but you know, you can't beat, you can't beat the Duke. Can't beat the Duke. And then Clint Eastwood, you can't beat Clint Eastwood.

Good, bad, ugly.

Well, Clint Eastwood, he wasn't even supposed to be an actor, right? Wasn't he a stagehand or a grip or something?

No, that was John Wayne. That was John Wayne that did that? Wait, what? He was a stagehand.

I didn't know this.

Yeah, he was a stagehand for John Ford, and then John Ford took a liking to him, and put him in a couple of movies as an extra, and then he started doing the Three Mesquite Tears, Three Mesquite Tears, you know? And then he started doing a bunch of other small movies

and then finally John Ford got him the stagecoach.

Oh shit.

Yeah.

I thought he was gonna,

I could have sworn Eastwood was like that too though. I didn't know John Wayne was like that. Arlie Ermey was one, from Full Metal Jacket. Oh God, yeah. Arlie Ermey was one, from Full Metal Jacket. His iconic role in Full Metal Jacket, where apparently there was some other actor that was supposed to do the drill sergeant role.

Arlie Ermey was like the guy who was teaching him how to be a fucking drill sergeant. Finally he's just like, you, come here. You be this guy.

Well he steamed too. He steamed his steel. Steel a lot. Steel a lot I didn't I didn't know this part. Yeah. Yeah, he was a bit part guy, you know, he was a helicopter pilot and Apocalypse now But yeah, once once he was training he was showing the actor how to

How to be the drill sergeant, but yeah, he was in the back of his mind the whole time to steal the part.

Nice.

And for a Stanley Kubrick movie, dude, to have Kubrick be like, I want you in Stan, instantly, hey, fame is going to fall. He also was a, he did that shit.

He was amazing. He was amazing.

He made them feel like a piece of shit.

They've got shit action figure our Liam reaction figure

you know the sergeant you know I gotta get one does it yell. Man, the TV censored version's crazy. Yeah. It's funny, though, because my grandfather on my mother's side was a Korean War vet.

Yeah.

And so he had a stroke later in life. And so growing up around him, he couldn't really speak. And he's wheelchair bound. Whole left side of his body didn't really work that well. But we would bond on. All he wanted to do all day was watch John Wayne movies. And so that's just all he did all days. He

had a massive collection of John Wayne movies and that was just his

thing. Yeah, my grandfather on my dad's side, he served in Europe in World War II and then when the Germans surrendered they sent him over to Japan. And then my uncle, my dad's brother, he was a Marine in Korea, and then a Green Beret in Vietnam. And my dad was Air Commando in Vietnam, and I dropped the ball.

You were the smart one.

That's what I always say.

My 40th year, and my 40th birthday, my dad puts his arm around me and says, you know, they've raised the enlistment age son.

After all this shit you've done in life.

Yeah, I'm thinking, oh, my back hurts so bad. I would love to put my back, cause you know, it was broke.

You know, I didn't know it. You could have just showed up to any enlistment office ever and just shown your surgical history and they're like, no.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know. I, you know what? Cause I didn't think I was ever man enough to be a Marine. I wanted to be a Marine, but never ever thought.

So you chose professional modern gladiator instead.

Right. So I know.

Well, I wanted to be a Marine or a Green Beret, you know?

So I instead decided, because I'm not man enough to do that, to beat up professional fighters for a living.

I took the easy way, yeah. I took the easy way out, yeah.

That's not the easy way, Dan.

What does it mean, you know? Then I found out women could be Marines. That broke my heart.

I just...

I fucking...

Oh, man. Damn it, I could have made it.

I could have been number two at least.

You could have been a cop. Couldn't even do that. Yeah. I'm gonna be a fireman. That's a smart way, man. That's what I've been telling my son recently.

Yeah.

Cause he's 16. He's gonna head off to college in a couple of years.

I've been telling him,

why don't you just be a firefighter? Yeah. And while you're at the station, not doing the firefighter EMT thing, you just, you go to school. Then you take your classes, right?

Yeah, take your classes, work out, just get jacked. Be a firefighter somewhere nice. That's what I was saying too, be a firefighter on like a coastal town, like a beach, like a nice beach town. So there's like college girls just rotating out

all the time and work out, fucking just go to school, make a paycheck. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, man.

Oh, it's a good job, it's a great job. Just the DEI got in the fucking way and screwed up everything.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, geez.

Threw a wrench in a couple things.

Luckily, that only happened with firefighters.

Oh God, I forgot about that.

I mean, just see that moose in LA? He says, well, if I have to pull a man out of a fire, that's his fault for being in it. It's his fault for being in the fire.

Yeah.

Way to go, sweetheart.

Have you seen that moose?

That's probably the hardest left hook

you've thrown in a while.

That fucking moose.

That fucking moose. I didn't say bull moose. I held it back, held the reins back on that one.

How is this new wave of social media and being involved in, is it wild, especially now like you're older in life? Is it like, what the fuck is going on?

Oh yeah, because I've been here, I talk more in one hour or two hours, you know, we've been together at four hours now. And so I'm talking more of these four hours than I do in a week when I'm at home, you know, cause it's my myself, my motor, you know, we have to release this out.

At least we don't fart on each other.

We might have to cut this part, but that, uh, the woman that you brought up a second ago, the fire chief that said, if a man's in a fire, he shouldn't have got there in the first place. She's dead now.

Oh yeah.

What happened?

Uh, her wife stabbed her to death in a domestic violence incident.

What did you give me any relevant details about this person's life?

You're fucking kidding me.

Are you what I'm dead serious.

I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious.

California fire captain Rebecca Ramody 45 was stabbed to death by her wife Yolanda, also known as Yolanda Marodi 53 on February 17th, 19 or 2025.

You know what? But she shouldn't have been put in that situation.

That's right.

She shouldn't have put herself in that situation.

Have you seen the divorce? What the fuck? I been put in that situation. That's right. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation.

Have you seen the divorce?

What the fuck?

I say we keep that in, fuck it.

Have you seen the divorce rates? Every man versus woman divorce is 50%.

Gay men is like 30.

Gay men is like 30, and the gay women is like 75.

80. Yeah, yes, yes. The highest domestic violence rates in this country are between two women. Two women part like women partners. No highest in the country. Yeah. How many times did you have to respond to one of those as a

cop?

Good Lord. I told you about I think I've told you guys about the the first like about the first domestic violence

I ever went to was two dudes.

Which one was it, the poppers? Or which one was this? I pull up, and this is like one of my first nights on the streets by myself. I'm fresh out of FTO, like I've got my own police car. I'm feeling cool, man.

I'm feeling cool as shit and I pull up and there's this dude he's standing there and he's covered from head to toe in blood he had some scalp wounds and you know those bleed like motherfuckers he's covered in blood and I go up and I'm like hey what's happening he's like well me me and my partner got into a fight and here's my ID and he like he knows the whole drill because we had to respond out there like apparently other officers had to have To respond out there a bunch of times and the IDs covered in blood, too

He says I just want you to know I'm HIV positive I was just making that joke as you fuck. No, no, this is the first thing he said. He's like, here's my ID I just want you to know I'm HIV positive and I'm just standing there as a fresh officer I thought I was responding to like help some crime or something. And I'm like, fuck. Day one. There we go. Problem solver right there.

I think I think like the majority of domestic disputes where there was blood taken from someone else where they had a knife or they beat the absolute fuck out of each other It was always same-sex couples. They also like the amount of like that was the one thing. I don't know if bleep this Okay, sorry about his time on You know, I think it was state police Yeah, state police. Talking about um, how every, like the two things I learned from policing, he had one like wholesome thing

and the other one, everyone has hep C. Yeah. Everyone and their mother, everyone you would ever respond to at any trailer park, anything. Everyone has hep C. Yeah. That's his takeaway. That's why you see so many officers in videos when someone spits on them, they just pop them in the mouth. Because everyone has fucking hep C. It's biological assault. Disgusting. You're dealing with the lowest of the lowest.

It's fucking nasty, man.

Especially for the pain.

We were on one time, two guys, that bitch, that in there, he started his fight. Arrest that bitch. Whoa, slow down there tiger.

What if I didn't have to be a babysitter for grown men?

That would be really cool.

Never gonna happen.

You're like, nope.

I mean, the thin blue line thing, it sounds kind of gay sometimes. The thin blue line protects you. They're like, dude, cops put up with some ridiculous ass shit. And they really do keep like these people from people who just want to pay taxes,

have a job, live their life.

Well, it's that thing where people don't understand how good they have it or what that other, that job entails. It's like, oh, well, they have this skewed version of their world, hey, police have that, they think, oh, well, this cop just gets to deal

with good people all the time, no one's evil. Police don't get that luxury.

They're like, holy fuck, I have to deal with this.

Most people have never seen the real world.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. What you're saying at the first, have you seen that interview where the police chief and I think it was Milwaukee gets confronted by an interviewer? Cause he was at like some press conference because it was like during BLM, it's a couple years ago and there was some, I'm assuming black person was like shot by police and killed and it was like a big deal. There was all the press and everything.

And during the press conference he was on his phone texting stuff. And one of the reporters like called him out on it being like, you don't even care. You've been on your phone the whole time. And he just goes, I've been on my phone because an eight year old girl was shot in the face and we're trying to capture the suspect and I'm getting updates on her in the hospital. And then he just goes like, he goes, there's been 58 shootings

or whatever it was this past month in Milwaukee. None of you can name a single one of them, but you can name the three people my officers have shot and killed in the last five years. And just the whole room's just like dead quiet.

You should have called that reporter up. Hey, come here. I want you to be in frame when this clip goes viral.

Yeah, shit. Yeah. That's fucking wild.

Some of the Florida Sheriff, there's also clips of, I don't know if it was Grady Judd or someone, one of the Florida Sheriffs that did the same thing. He's like, you're fucking questioning me about how many times my officers shot someone. He was shooting at my officers.

Yeah.

So fuck you. And they don't count though. You know, it's like, uh, you saw the one video where the woman was like, well, he killed, he killed my son. How, just cause my son stole from me. How else my son's supposed to get money to go to school, get books. I saw that one. Yeah. It's a wild one. And it's a

wild one. The mom literally says, how else is he supposed to get money to buy clothes? Yeah. Justifying her son breaking into somebody's house. Everyone else seems to figure it out. I want to do the Chicago thing real quick. How many people do you think have been shot in Chicago this year? Just this year? 258 283 1383 people Oh 297 of those died but

1383 guess how close guess how many people in Chicago police have a shot this year three five seven zero fourteen fourteen 1,000 almost 1,400 people have been shot in Chicago this year police have shot 14 of them No, please are the problem though. We should we run them right down? Yeah name we can name the 14 people Defund the police fat mayor though is throwing a bitch fit over. Yeah, you know Trump's like Why is the murder capital of the world in the United States?

Right, right.

It is what I didn't realize was that Venezuela, they had the highest murder per capita, like by a large. El Salvador?

At least it was for a while.

Yeah, one of those, but then they did the lockup.

Honduras was another one.

Was the one they cracked down? They were like, hey, president come in. They elected that young guy as president.

Yeah.

And it keeps getting reelected. And he like Argentina, I think it might have been Argentina. He like fully militarized everything and arrested every they were building new prisons. And now it's like one of the safest countries like by.

I don't love the idea of militarized police. But when you're talking about militarized police for the sake of like murderers like not like talking about speeding This was the crackdown on the cartels because the cartel was basically running the government at that point

I'm like these things are not equated right you had I think it was 900 or a ridiculous number for every hundred thousand. It was a very very high number like 900 to 1800 murders per 100,000. They dropped it down to like 20 or 40 because those prisons, they put all the gangs together and then those guards did not fuck around.

They're not allowed to talk. They just, someone went in and filmed it and you just get to see them just staring.

Look at the wall forever.

That's it.

Oh, is that the one where they show them doing their daily exercise and they just have to sit there and this is all they get. Like they got to do this shit. Probably. It's all the tattoo, like tattoo faces guys.

And the other gangs and they have like those, the gangs don't even fight inside that prison. Really terrified. They're like, Hey, you just, you can't do anything this is your life now and they're just in blocks well just shoot them and let them lay there bleeding oh

yeah the original the am-180 oh yeah the prison riot gun yeah have you seen that no it's a no you didn't show me that today you didn't have a minute oh it's it's up on my what's it oh you guys got to go see you got to see the machine gun how was it oh great great we did a video on it it's 22 LR no shit holds like something stupid like 277 rounds right I'm up top And it was used for riot control in American prisons. I think it's originally an Austrian gun, I think.

But yeah, it looks like a Thompson, has that top pan fed magazine like the Lewis, like we were talking about earlier, 22LR. And it was, because it was not less than lethal, but it was less lethal. But it's got an absurdly high fire rate

and you just spray a bunch of inmates. Dear Lord, you better have enough bandages. Before we had like being bad guys and shit like that. They were just using 22 bullets and that thing to spray people with. But there are instances of American cops

smoking dudes with that. Like I think I want to say, I'm probably horribly misremembering this, but I think it was like out in Miami or something like that. It was two cops that were in a shootout, like two cars with drug dealers or whoever it was,

and they fired out the back and just shot, or either it was, they were shooting the people they were pursuing or they were pursuing them, something along those lines. They just sprayed a Camaro with the am 180 just sprayed it with 22 and ended up murking two dudes. Oh yeah.

Jesus. That'll do it. That gun is fucking nasty, man. The angry bees. Yeah, well, I knew it from I did a video back in the day I was watching old SWAT training videos from like this late 70s, early 80s, and SWAT guys were running around with that thing. What is it, it fires like,

it's like 2,600 rounds a minute or something. It's not quite, it's like a thousand or something like that, maybe higher. It's fucking crazy. And it's just, they call it the what,

the swarm of angry bees? B's because it's just 22 rounds it's nasty but SWAT guys used to carry that back in the early 80s holy shit what was your favorite gun going to his nice

little museum he has going on Oh 1200 rounds a minute I like that because it's you as a gun. Yes

Yeah, it's like a dawn morphing into a bar

American Well, I didn't know this until earlier today you said you would carried a BAR in that movie. Yeah. Yeah, it's public enemies Oh, we're gonna be sure No clue. Oh, you clue about public enemies. Yeah. As a John bitch. What? I killed Johnny Depp and then I didn't work for seven, eight years. They work for a decade.

Dude. I was, I was watching tombstone last night. Like I was on my, my whole thing where sometimes I'll just throw on like one of the Taylor Sheridan shows or like some shit, just a classic Western type thing. And I almost watched that.

I didn't know you were in that dude.

Yeah. That's cool.

Bro.

Bro.

All right.

How the fuck do you not know?

I know. I'm so mad.

I'm like, God dang it.

One of the Texas Rangers that come in to clean up.

Yeah. Damn. Damn, you handsome motherfucker. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. How old were you when you first grew that mustache?

Or were you born with it?

That was I think that was born first.

I developed around it.

That is a question.

He's probably been asked a lot of times.

Your mustache is eight pounds. Set it down in a baby grows into it.

Congratulations. You have a mustache. Don over here gets pushed out. There's no crying. Pass me a beer. Congratulations, ma'am. It's a man. It's a man.

Congratulations.

It's a man.

Look at.

Goo goo. Congratulations. It's a man.

Goo goo. Gaga.

Dog.

The doctor is a full size 30 year old man.

Throwing shit like a monkey.

Fucking doctor slaps his ass and punches the doctor.

Oh God.

What were you like as a teenager?

Dear Lord, I was a dick. The dick

that got me

dad, dad in the military for 20 years. What were you up to during that time?

Oh, I'd see I was wrestling, playing football, wrestling and screwing my girlfriend, you know? So that was pretty much it.

Guessing I picked on much.

No, no, no. I wasn't a bully, I didn't pick on anybody either, you know, but a couple of times I was an asshole, you know, but besides that I minded my own business.

You said your dad, earlier when we were talking, you said your dad was a boxer, an amateur boxer

I think?

Yeah, amateur boxer. So he, so got you interested in stuff like that. So at what age did you kind of start taking on fighting sports? Was it like during high school?

Yeah, Yeah. He, he was good enough to, he got offered a chance to turn pro, but he decided it was a better way to make a living than get punched in the nose. Smart man. He forgot to tell me that.

That was something funny. Uh, we were talking about earlier, like did your dad ever see one of your fights? Yeah. And his reaction to your first fight?

His reaction to my fight was, how come you drop your hand, your jab, and you bring it back?

Correcting you.

Yeah, he was. You're supposed to throw the jab, bring it right back. But apparently I just throw it and drop it. He was not happy. It was not happy.

Did you win that fight?

Yeah.

I won the fight.

Okay.

Well, fuck dad.

Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. It's still your dad.

Did you have any, like during your, your peak, any of your sparring sessions where it was going extremely hard or sparring partner that you did not like sparring where you're like, well, they, they swung.

Yeah. There's a couple of guys that didn't like, yeah. Yeah. But one time hit one kid in the liver and I dropped him and he screamed, he, he screamed on his way down. And when he hit, he couldn't make a noise. He just laid there for about 20 minutes. We kind of grabbed him and pulled him off to the side so he keep going

Go sit on the cock wall. I got more pimp men to beat up

Did you punch him? Did you do that on purpose?

Punched him right in the liver, you know. Because you didn't like him? No, it was just, um.

It was there?

Probably didn't like him at the time. He was probably being a bit of a dipshit, yeah. So, probably put a little bit too much into it, yeah.

Shit happens.

Yeah, yeah.

I know.

I would wear 20 ounce gloves when I was sparring.

Jesus Christ, you got a canned ham attached to your wrist. I don't want my liver to get hit with that thing.

And it's still making it through.

Eli's been fighting with 20 ounce clubs lately.

Yeah.

So yeah, that's all I've been using for training is like 20 ounce for the last few months. It's just, and when I put on 16 or 12 ounces, I'm like, Oh, these are nice and light.

Holy shit. Oh, we were well, you're wearing 12 We were far enough 16. So you're gonna say fuck you. No, I didn't know that we fight in four ounce gloves Which you're like, oh, yeah, what's you know have no fingers and yeah, they're just small pads Yeah, so when you go for a 20 ounce to four ounce You know, you can't block as much, you know, but you can hit it a lot harder. Yeah.

Do you block more a lot with your, like your, your forearms then?

Yeah. Yeah.

You go higher?

Yeah. This is when I'm on my back. I'm on my back. I like, you know, you get parry real easy, you know, cause you obviously you can't, you don't have a chance to have any footwork and move out of the way. You know, you're stuck in that position.

So you've got to be.

You know.

It was the craziest thing to see being adopted by fighters that's really working. I know you come from more of a wrestling background. So was that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in the 90s, early 2000s, was that crazy to see being used at that level? Or what was the martial art for you?

Were you like, what the fuck is this?

No, I did judo, you know, and jujitsu is from judo. You know, it's just a watered down, just nae waza, you know, groundwork, you know. Other than that, it came from judo. And so none of it surprised me.

See, that's the stuff I find super interesting, because this is judo to, as you said, it is a watered down. Jiu-jitsu stemmed from that. But seeing everything, oh, this dude's doing Muay Thai, or that one guy that did the boxing glove.

Oh, he had one boxing glove?

Yeah, goddammit.

The fuck?

I know that guy.

Back in the day he had one, one

rap.

Him and hard.

All right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's the funniest guy in the world. And nicest guy in the world. Yeah. Nicest guy.

This is like MMA fights. do you could wear shoes so he could grab with one hand and hit with the other. He had one legit boxing glove and one hand.

He was a ranked middleweight, you know, and, um, hell, you gotta get anyone here. The story, they, they want, they were going to offer him like 10% of UFC for him to 10 or 20%. He should have taken that.

Yeah.

Oh, just like they would have offered.

Just to fight.

It was just like Matt Damon with like the 10% of all of Avatar.

Yeah.

And he turned down the starring role like that similar situation.

Yeah.

Cause he was a ranked middleweight fighter. You know.

In boxing?

Yeah, in boxing. Okay. And it would have brought legitimacy to the sport, you know?

Oh my God.

But he said no. He took a couple hundred dollars or something, I don't know.

That's what he, I guarantee he got paid like maybe a grand max instead of the position. Cause he was like, oh, I'm only making this much. No, I'll take the thousand dollars instead of this percent of a company. That's wow. That's what happened to the Facebook artist.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was like, oh, hey, do you want 60 grand or do you want some shares into Facebook? That shares was $400 million. He made the right choice, obviously.

Yeah, he was the guy painting their walls in the office or something. The murals? Yeah, the graffiti guy.

Yeah, and it was like 60 grand and or shares of Facebook, which were nothing at that time. And he took that and then walked away with $400 million.

Damn.

I mean, your buddy would have been.

Yeah, I would have been sent for mine, yeah.

Fuck.

But he wore a glove to protect his striking hand, right?

I forget his mind.

No, I think it was his jab hand. Wasn't it his jab?

I think it was his jab.

Yeah.

No shit.

But the other one was taped up, but he had the jab hand gloved up.

Wonder which hand he's going to try to finish me with.

Yeah.

One glove art, you know, was there, man, one gloves.

Was there anybody that in UFC, whether you fought him or you didn't, that you just did not get along with, that was kind of a dick or, Oh, I had my problem with tank Abbott, you know, but I was just going to say, cause I heard tank Abbott was a huge dick.

That's what I was thinking of in my head, but he's changed a lot. You know, I worked with him here.

Oh, about four or five months ago, um, in Las Vegas, we did a signing at, um,

at WrestleMania and he's changed a lot. He's, he's a completely different guy. Got a great wife, great daughter, you know, he's still off, you know, cause he had a liver transplant. So he's, he's lost like about 150 pounds, 200 pounds.

You guys know who tank Abbott is? No. Yeah. Takes it. I don't tank Abbott legitimately looks like my dad, like same build and everything. Huge beer gut. And we're just going to get more. Well, I'm not back when he was fighting beer gut. He would go in there. Not anymore, not anymore. A long time back when he was fighting, huge beer gut and he would go in there and just knock people the fuck out.

He used to do like the street fight stuff too,

like street beef, like shit like that, right? Wouldn't he just like,

I don't know about that, but I mean, I know he was. Might've been Tank.

Hank, you're thinking, no, no.

Tank is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like he used to do like, like it wouldn't surprise me.

He could have. I know I'm thinking of OG like early day of the youth, like early day YouTube.

He might have it. The like street fights or backyard brawls. Cause it was him. And I forget the black guy's name. Kimbo slice. Kimbo.

Yeah, that's exactly who I was.

Yes.

I was like, Kimbo slice doesn't look like next guy in the world, man. I met him a couple of times. Nicest, nicest guy.

He completely opposite of what you, what, what he polite, you know One of the funniest post fight interviews ever when he lost in the ultimate fighter to Roy Nelson Roy Nelson also Pale pale white dude with humongous beer gut Dana white described him as the ultimate underachiever ungodly talented fighter, but was like eating Big Macs and shit the night before and Roy Nelson was like an elite level grappler and striker, but his grappling was really good. So he took Kimbo down, put him in a crucifix from the top side. So his belly's just right on Kimbo's face for three, five rounds, whatever it

was. And Kimbo slice afterwards, like he'd take me down and put me in that crucifix. And then I got the moon on my face. I can't move the moon. I don't know what you guys

want me to do. I don't know. Who's the guy right now, Derek?

Derek Lewis?

Derek Lewis. The Black Beast?

Yeah.

Hilarious.

Is that him?

My balls is hot.

My balls is hot. You're talking about like best post fight interviews and shit like that, that's immediately who came to mind.

Derek Lewis.

Why'd you take your pants off? Yeah. Well, your guy, what was his name? Ro uh, Roy Nelson. Roy Nelson was again, his level of athleticism and Dana White and everyone said is if this guy gave it a hundred percent, he would be unstoppable.

He was knocked out. He, he, he knocked out Brennan Shab in the final for the ultimate fighter, like out fucking cold, knocked him out. He's not a big dude for the heavyweight class. He's like, he's my height, 260 pounds with an enormous beer gut. Like I'm pretty sure my arms and shit

are like bigger than his. Like he's not jacked. He looks like just some dude bellied up at a bar in the Midwest. He just goes in there and beats the shit out of people. Huge mullet, he knocked out Bigfoot Silva. He's got all kinds of crazy knockouts

All those in a fighter You're saying the older like tank the older they get a lot of them just look at Tyson They just become softer and like oh, hey, I'm not as aggressive compared to that young age Did you see I don't have to beat up grown men?

Oh, yeah, I got lazy I can tone it down a little bit. I can chill. I don't have to.

Oh yeah, I got lazy. I mean, shit, I got addicted. I didn't get addicted. I got dependent on the pain pills, you know, after the neck and the back.

And the neck and the back.

And the back and the back.

And the neck and the back.

And the neck and the back.

And the neck and the back. And the neck and the back. And the back. And the back. And the neck. And the neck and ears. Yeah. You know, and the back, and the back. And yeah, I got a little dependent on the pills. And so the fights I lost, I would take the pain pill before I went out there, which was stupid, you know? Because I was like, man, that's a long walk out there.

Yeah.

I better take a pill.

You were going to fight another professional athlete and you were more concerned about how long the walk to the cage was?

Wasn't too smart. Yeah.

It sounds pretty bad ass to me.

I don't know.

What is that?

50 feet.

Oh yeah.

Maybe two. Two for the road.

Not worrying about the fighting part, it's the walk there that gets me.

Oh.

Take an extra for the road.

The thing I was curious about was a lot of these fighters, like we know, like we talked to Chalk and like some of the stories that they have of like how crazy the party's got and stuff like that in like early UFC days. You have any stories like that? No. That you'd be willing to tell?

Yeah, early UFCs.

Statute of limitations.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I got two daughters now, so I don't know.

Yeah.

Dude, speaking of, I wanna ask you a question too. My son, he's 16. He's been in jujitsu and boxing his entire life, since he was five years old.

Do you have any advice for a young man?

Yeah, getting in high school wrestling. High school wrestling.

Wrestling?

Wrestling's the toughest thing you'll ever do in your life. Most disciplined. life, you know, most discipline. And it's, it's exact opposite of jujitsu and, and judo, you know, or basically, to bring it down judo is more pulling, but wrestling is pushing, you know, to simplify it, you know, and, and then jujitsu is, you know, you fall to your back, or, you know, wrestling, and then jujitsu's, you know, you fall to your back or, you know,

wrestling, you want to put the guy on his, on his back and you want to say off your back, you know? So, but the, the discipline involved, uh, necessary to be a wrestler is the hardest thing you'll ever do.

As soon as you started saying that Nick was looking at me like I told you so motherfucker.

It's true. Do you rest's so hard cause I've been doing jujitsu forever. It's so much harder than jujitsu because there's arm bar, there's 20 different types of arm bars. There's 50 different types of chokes. There's 50 different types of light. There's so many different ways to end a jujitsu match.

There's one way to end a wrestling match and both motherfuckers in it know it. So it's not a matter of, I can't trick you into a pin. I can't finesse my way into it. You know exactly where I'm trying to go and I'm gonna have to force you to do it. And it's so much harder than jujitsu.

Do you know the highest rate of young men who make it through Navy SEAL training are wrestlers from the South. That's the highest rate of men

that make it through that training. I'm gonna call it bullshit. I think it's wrestlers from the Midwest.

I wonder why you might be biased.

Bad chicks.

It is. You both will be able to answer to this. Cody, when you're grappling somebody, you know if they come from a wrestling background so fast. Because they go harder and faster than anyone you know, especially coming from like BJJ,

you're like, okay, hey, I'm relaxed. Dude goes 100, like full throttle out the gate, you're like, oh, fuck me, dude. This guy is just, they're just dragging you across the floor, they don't know how to pitch.

I've been doing jujitsu so long. It doesn't, I don't even need to know before. I can literally tell when a new student walks in by the way they walk and their posture. As soon as they walk in the gym, okay, yeah, come in free trial, fill out the waiver. Where'd you wrestle at? Oh, how'd you know I wrestled?

I can tell. Yeah, you're an athlete. the way you walk, the way you stand, your posture, all of it. Like I can see him from a mile away. It's terrifying.

Individuals with a wrestling background, particularly those from Southern States are known to have a strong statistical presence in Navy SEAL training.

It's almost like I went to Bud's and know this thing.

Damn it.

Swiper, no swiping.

Oh man.

That makes sense.

All the Midwestern guys are probably too busy going to the Olympics.

Wow.

I can't wait.

They're in the Air Force.

Fucking hell.

Holy shit. Don, this has been a pleasure. My brother. Thank you so so very much.

Thank you. And hang very much for coming out

and hanging out with us.

I think you had a great time, man.

You've been, after your amazing career in life, you're trying to do what we do for a living now, huh? Yeah, yeah. You're trying to be a YouTuber.

Yeah, Dan Severin and I got Dan and Don's Toxic Masculinity.

We haven't put one out for about six or eight months. So is that is that on your main channel? Or is it its own channel? separate channel. So you've got toxic masculinity and you also have your own YouTube channel Don Fry. Yeah, Don Fry USA. Yep. So go check him out. Subscribe to him. Some of your videos are hilarious. You're basically doing a you're doing mean tweets. Now we're reading comments. Some of the comments are I've seen a couple Don Fry

speaks fluent F 350. My revolver sleeps with Don Fry under its pillow shit like that. It's pretty funny.

And I was saying earlier, like I just I find most of your shit just coming across my Instagram reels feed. Yeah. Or it's just just you saying just horrifically politically

incorrect shit to interviewers.

And instantly why we're like, we need him on the show.

This seemed like he'd get along.

He's one of us.

Instantly.

He don't have all his teeth, obviously.

So, yeah, go check out Don's channels.

Cody, you want to close this out?

My oh, oh, he's getting a photo. You guys are just like really handsome right now. So yeah, go check out Don's channels. Cody, you wanna close this out, my?

Oh, he's getting, get your photo in there.

You guys are just like really handsome right now.

Oh.

Hell yeah.

It's Don. Don, what's your OF channel?

Joking.

Guys, thank you for joining the Unsubscribed Podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tap, the fat electrician, Don Fry himself, Brandon Herrera, myself Don Operator.

Are we doing an after show?

Yeah, we'll do it.

Check out the after show on Patreon. In that case, you want another drink, Don?

Absolutely.

All right.

Oh, we're going to drink some more.

Absolutely.

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