MAGALY MEDINA: EL PODCAST - TEMP. 3 Ep. 4 Ricardo Mendoza

The Cameron makes this episode possible. Discover your next vacation by calling 016-3424-24 or by tripling WTheCameron.com This time, in our episode of Magali Medina, the podcast, our guest is Ricardo Mendoza from Hablando Huevadas, yes, himself.

Jorge Luna's partner, who we once mocked. Your husband, your husband. He didn't like our show, but here we are, sitting. Here we are. Hello, how are you? I'm not going to say anything. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something.

I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something. CATIA. I've always said that when I'm in love, I sing. When I'm in denial, I do comedy. That's my mood for doing comedy. Your therapist, your therapy.

Sure. Because, in fact, no comedian in the world, I can assure you, no comedian in the world is happy. I can assure you.

Why?

I can assure you. Because comedy is not born out of happiness. It's born out of denial, out of anger, out of the desire to say, of the satire. So the comedian uses comedy to be happy. But if you use something to be happy, it means that the base state is restlessness. It's something that's not right. And I use my restlessness, my reneging, as my basis for comedy, and then I use comedy to be happy.

So it's not convenient for you to be happy, like now.

It's not convenient for me.

It's not convenient for you to be happy, like now. It's not convenient for me. It's not convenient for me. Jorge always laughs at that.

You're in love, right? How can you annoy me that you're in love? Everything is beautiful. Everything is beautiful, he tells me. And it's true, when everything is beautiful, it doesn't make you laugh. When everything is happiness, it doesn't make you laugh.

It makes you smile, but it's not funny.

But did you get into comedy because you decided to do it? Did you notice that you had that talent or did you just happen to get into it?

I've been acting since I was three.

I've been acting since I was three. I do theater. Your dad would call you and say, your parents' friends would come and say, come here, Ricardito, stand here.

Yes and no. I have an artistic family, but I wasn't completely connected to that artistic family. But my parents are very cultural. My dad, my mom, my dad told me stories until I was 10 years old. My mom sings beautifully. My parents were in the Catholic choir and they took me.

So you were an artist then.

So I've been doing art since I was 3 years old. And when I heard about the comedy by Luthiers, I said, this is mine. I was a student of the Catholic Church and they took me. So you were an artist then. I've been doing art since I was three. And when I heard about the comedy by Le Luthiers, I said, this is mine.

I stayed.

Very good. You know, I transmitted a little of that to Jorge. I taught him what Le Luthiers was. Because he was a street comedian, who climbed the buses to do comedy. I mean, he was a guy who was self-taught. He was born out of his circumstances, and that's a humble circumstance. And how do you connect in that way? Easy, I was doing very well doing comedy.

Underground, right? I mean, on an underground level, but I was doing very well. And he was just starting. So when I saw that he had a similar thing to mine when I started, I said, hey, I like what you're doing. Come to my house and let's work together. I'll teach you what I know and we'll build your career and mine. It helps me that you come with me and I'll help you with what you need. And we started working together,

separately, each in their own projects, until he appeared talking nonsense and we said, hey, let's do it together. And it turned out to be a phenomenon. I mean, it was a before and after. But you know that working in a team, having a partner with whom you also have a friendship,

this level of trust and chemistry,

it's difficult to maintain it over time.

Very difficult.

How do you do it?

We are very good friends, one, and I think we established clear rules many years ago. So those clear rules, like, you know, clear rules and dark friendships, right? Because, really, with Jorge we have a friendship that is very fun, but since we are comedians,

and I'm telling you, it's based a little on the dirty work. Because you guys get the dirt out of each other, literally. The dirt. When you do your staging. But it's not worth getting hurt. That's the first rule. It's not worth it. You get pissed sometimes. You're more of a pisser than I am. I don't get pissed. I mean, I have to get pissed.

I mean, it's the reaction. I have to do it. I mean, how do I explain this to you? Jorge and I, in privacy, we say things 10,000 times worse.

Yeah.

But none of it gets pissed. of a relationship. And on stage, we have to play to that. We have to play to the fact that if one says something, the other has to respond and the other has to tell him. Wouldn't it be funny if he says something to me and it doesn't cause anything in me? I have to react. It's like a stage art, it's like theater.

When you act, they say, I'll give you this, you react. So that's what basis, neither of us wants to hurt each other. Never. Jorge never wants to hurt me.

But you've started to grow independently as well, right?

Of course, yes, yes, yes.

Because he has a channel where he gives things away.

Yes, yes, yes. There's no bad luck.

And where you're not.

No, I'm not in that. Jorge is the best businessman I know. He has a lot of business. He loves money. He's a humble person. He's poor. He sees a bill and falls in love with it. He's great. I grew up poor and I fell in love with the bill, but I don't know how to do it. I'm a bad businessman. He loves his wife, but he loves Santa Rosa more. When he sees her in the bill, he says, the I have more artistic ones. For example, I have my new theater, which is a bar style like New York, which I love in New York. Have you already inaugurated it? It is already working. We have not yet done the official inauguration.

What kind of New York? So you're going to be able to listen to jazz one day, a comedian another day? The structure of the bar is like a theater bar. Here in Peru we had the Sáchmo, for example, which was a theater bar. I still had some things that I didn't like. For example, the blender sounded. Okay, this bar doesn't sound like a blender, it has a separate kitchen, it has a very nice sound to make comedy, very underground, it's a basement, this one in Miraflores is a basement, it's super cute.

So it's a bar that I dreamed of having and now I have it there. We are promoting that the comedians go to do shows, that people go to do their shows. We are inaugurating a multi-theater room like Paseo La Plaza, which is something that I loved about Argentina. I said, I want to do it sometime. And right now we are going to inaugurate three rooms in one place. So I like art. People, this investment, which is linked to what you like, is not as economically profitable as what Jorge is doing. No, Jorge's thing is that he has the wood, he is a businessman.

Maybe the next time you invest with him. Yes, I should, I should. No, but yes, he is doing his business, I am doing mine. We are in, in fact, comedy unites us, but there also each one does what he likes and is passionate about. Sure. but each one does what they like and are passionate about. And it's super cool. I'm very proud of him.

I'm the proudest of my friend and the person I saw grow from scratch being in the tenth period of potency. Of course, without envy, without any kind of grudges. It's like it should be when you want something. It's like if I got mad that my son for doing well, or doing better than me. I saw him grow up. He was literally in nothing, and now he's in everything.

I'm the most proud person in the world. I'm very proud. Well, it's wonderful that you've been able to keep the friendship intact. Hey, but when do you fall in love and change everything that people, because of your comedy and what you said, because a lot of your life is told when you're on stage. It's a quasi-reality.

You use your personal experiences to make people laugh. But you were the anti-marriage, anti-children, not children, not anything, and suddenly you surprised us all by raising your wife's son, who is also your son,

and now you have a son, making you a father.

Thank you. Thank you. What you just said, I love it. Why? Because it's super cute. I mean, I know that jokes are fun, and jokes have to be jokes, and I love it, but you are one of the few people who says, you're the father of Katia's son. You're being a father. You've played that role.

You're the figure.

Of course, and I love it. That's been a wonderful thing in my life. Because I also think it's great that a man has that heart of when you love a woman, to love her with everything she has. I fell in love twice. And you have to me. I don't know what they expect. There are people who put things like,

how silly, for being raising a stranger's child. We live in a country where we have to be careful about what we say. I don't know what they expect. I don't know what they expect. I don't know what they expect.

I don't know what people expect. Some people say things like, how silly, for raising a stranger's child. They say it worse. That you're raising a stranger's child. And it sounds terrible. I calculate two things.

I don't know if you calculate that you're an adult who's talking about a child.

And two, I don't know if you calculate what I do. But this is a country where ignorance and paternity is not really fashionable. Paternity is not exercised. We see the number of children without a last name. We see unprotected children.

Because once you have a child, two, three, four, you separate from the mother and you never remember those creatures.

So we live in a country where there is no paternity that is assumed. Or apart from that, what do they want me to do? Tell them, you move, but your son lives abroad? Well, but he gets used to it. Oh no, you haven't seen many women who marry men and say, but your son, leave him with your parents. No, impossible. Imagine, and women who allow it. That's also.

You know, a lot of my thinking about, a lot of what I preached, let's say, in Hablando Huevas, I don't know, because I've worked a lot with children, I've worked a lot with special people,

I've been a catechist, I've been, so I saw a lot of what you were saying. And for me, although there were very clear rules in terms of my personal life, like I don't want children, I don't want to do these things, there were also very clear rules in terms of what happens if this changes.

But you didn't have it mapped.

Not mapped, but I have thought about it a lot. I am a person who sits down to think. I like to sit down to think. And say, ok, today I'm going to have a philosophical reflection about exercise, for example. I want to do exercise, I don't want to do it, etc, etc. So, I have thought many times about, for example, what would happen if I fall in love with someone who has a child? What would happen if a child comes to my house, right? And I, for example, do not tolerate the fact that, for example, she is not raised well, that the education she has is not good, that if in my house one eats, everyone eats, right? I mean, things like that, which sometimes seem obvious,

but you have to think about them and keep them very clear, and a lot of that also when Katia arrives, it begins to sprout and flourish much more. Catia. Jorge is a very good actor. I was very happy. I was like, I'm going to be a star. I was like, I'm going to be a star. I was like, I'm going to be a star. I was like, I'm going to be a star. I was like, I'm going to be a star. The story is very simple. We were going on a trip to Cusco, and Jorge was completely... Jorge travels like this.

Jorge has problems, like social fear, I don't know what it's called. So he puts on a hood, a hat, glasses, and he's like this. And then, like him, he also has sleep problems sometimes. So he gets on the plane and falls asleep. Just that day, our employees didn't buy the front seats. So they only came to change us to the emergency seat.

Jorge was flying, me too, because we try to travel comfortably.

Of course, you have a show.

And it was December, and December is the highest season. We travel, travel, travel, we arrive, we do shows, we travel, travel, we don't see our families for a long time. And you need to sleep at least on the plane. Exactly. And he always travels in the morning, because if something happens, you have the second flight and you arrive at the show. So Jorge enters Lyon, he falls asleep.

Next to me sits an Australian, I calculate by the accent, by the accent that was Australian. Call me crazy, but I ... Jorge says, and what are you going to know about the Australian accent? Call me crazy, I ... It could in English. Yes, you could do it in English, but I felt that Australian guy. A talking Englishman. He sits down and he couldn't sit there because he didn't have the emergency seat. And there's Katia.

And he says, please excuse me, you can't sit here. The whole protocol, right? And the Australian, the Englishman, the white guy, the gringo, he tells her to fly a little more and opens the emergency door and pushes her on the plane. Katia doesn't make out for two reasons. First, because she didn't want to fight,

and second, because she doesn't speak English very well. And she grabs her and calls her supervisor, and says, hey, don't you want to get out? And they kick her out. And I have an empty seat. For this, I see her, and she's a beautiful, spectacular woman. While she was fighting the gringo, you were analyzing her.

I was like, how rich is this black woman. You were still in a guon. I was still saying, hey, this is so beautiful, so rich, so rich, what a rich woman, damn it. And to top it off, she's all dressed up. She not only looks good in a uniform, but she's also very vain, so I adjusted her uniform, very makeup with her tail.

And I see her and she told me, I love it.

And you started putting letters in her?

No, she crouches to leave her things because she starts doing the macarena, right? Here, the emergencies, right? And she leaves some supplements and she leaves them right in my seat on the side, right there where it touches. And she says, I'm very sorry, Mr. Ricardo, for the inconvenience of what has happened at this time.

And I look at her in the eyes and say, You did very well. You are very good at what you do.

Look, so you had your vein of ...

Of gallant, of gallant. Of gallant. Of gallant, of telenovela. From a soap opera to a ballet. From a soap opera. So I tell her that, and then while she does the ceremony, I keep staring at her, like I want you to give me a ball. And I keep talking to her while she does it, and she says, you're making me nervous.

And I said, but why? Why are you nervous? I kept talking to her.

But you had your cheap flower.

Very cheap. The cheapest there is. And I had her to her. But you had your cheap flower. Very cheap. The cheapest one that exists. And I had her scarf. Now the scarfs don't have a name or a surname. They only have the name or the surname. I don't remember which one. But I already had the old one. So I managed to see her name and I looked for her on Instagram and I told her,

Hey, I like you a lot. Right there on the flight? I like you a lot. You seem like a beautiful woman. And before, did you write on Instagram? Yes, yes, of course. Ah, you had that habit too. I'm not going to deny it, I'm not going to deny it. But the thing is that I write to her.

So, you called some unruly women.

There have been, there have been all kinds. The thing is that I write to her and she answers me. that was also, well, alone, and also wanted to peck, and for several months we pecked, as you say. But little by little...

You got involved.

Yes, of course.

What was the difference? What did you find in her that you didn't find in the other peckings? Because we already hallucinated you married to Mayra Goñi.

It's very womanly, she's very womanly. She's a woman.

I think there are differences between girls and women. And she's very womanly.

It doesn't matter how old you are. It could be that you're 50 years old and you still behave like a girl. She's a woman. Well, she's also a mom. Maternity can change you. I think that's what I really liked that. That her warrior side, I mean, her warrior side

is born not only from her personal drive, but also from her maternal drive.

And that was...

She told you from the beginning, just in case I have a child.

Yes, of course. She told me everything. In fact, I arrived in Cusco and we talked for three hours on the phone. And she told me everything. Everything, everything, everything. And I also liked that, that she was very upfront. Very upfront. She was like, this is what I want, this is what I like, this is what I'm looking for.

So, with me, she didn't...

Let's see, if you want to be here, cool. And I also told her, I also... this, this, this. Cool, cool, let's go, cool. And that's it. And another thing I liked is that she is very affectionate. What you're not. I'm a bit dry. I'm a bit dumb. A bit distracted. But she's super caring.

I'm not going to deny that she always says the sexual side is fun with her. It's very important. She says that 50, 60 or 70% of our relationship has to be sexual. And she's a beautiful sexual woman.

And I love that.

Yes, but you know that that can be an important part of a relationship.

Of course.

But it has to be grounded in other things.

Of course, of course.

Because there are moments when sexuality can go into the background, when you have a child, when you wake up, let's say,

No, of course, right now. when you have a in other values. But at that moment, it was... It was that. That has been a constant, delicious in our relationship.

And at what point did you feel that she was the woman of your life?

My birthday comes and she flirts with me. She flirts with me on my birthday and says... si era la mujer de tu vida. I can't stand not being with you. So, we're either together or we're apart. And how long was that? From December to April.

And she said right away, I want to know where we're going.

Of course, so, for this she was very honest. If she went out with a boy, she went out with a boy. And if I went out with a girl, I went out with a girl. Ah, so you had an open relationship. There was nothing formal. We were both single and we got together because we liked each other. And I always told her, let's try to be honest with each other.

But that didn't... I mean, you two dated, but that didn't mean you didn't date other people.

She could do whatever she wanted, and so could I. And that's it, right? But at that moment she told me, I can't take this anymore. I mean, now I don't want to date anyone else. If you don't want this, then I'll just stop here. And I literally said, wait a minute. You still thought about it? Wait a minute. And I sat down and said, I can't lose this woman.

I can't lose her. I can't lose her. I can give up everything else. And I said, I want to be with you. I want to be with you. I'm dying to be with you, please be my girlfriend, be my girlfriend. And I told her, and she said, okay, fine. And I said, okay, and we started on that day of my birthday, our anniversary, my birthday, in fact.

And it was... because I couldn't lose her, I couldn't lose her. I can't lose her, she's a wonderful woman, she's a woman... super a lot of drive. What did you find in her that's different? It's just that she's... I love to know love stories. It's real. It's real. It's not... I always use terms I don't use often, but...

She's... Don't be so moderate. I'm not going to be moderate, but she doesn't give me the amen. I like that. She doesn No necesito una fan. Pero es que la mujer que te ama de verdad no necesariamente va a estar con sobonerías contigo. Y eso lo detesto.

Porque hay mujeres hipócritas. Sí, claro, claro, claro, claro. Esa, ay, pero es que tú eres lo máximo. I think that's pure hypocrisy. Because I think that the woman or the man she loves tells the truth just like that. I love it, because I tell them, I want to do this, but you don't realize that you're doing this wrong,

and then I go and say, yes, you're right. And I like that, because, for example, my work is a lot about trial and error. The comedian is not a science. I do 2 plus 2 and it's 4. Sometimes you say that you don't get anything. The formulas are different. So she grabs me and says, no, that's wrong.

And I get upset because I'm proud and I have ego logically. And then I say, no, she was right. And I correct it and I say, thank you, love. You made me realize that I don't...

What happens is that the people we work with, We work directly with the public, we want the applause of the public. We have a lot of ego. And that is something that we have to work on.

Because ego is a very bad advisor for the development of our daily life. And your partner has to be, as my mom says, a needle in the haystack. It has to be the one who pokes your ball for a while. Because sometimes what you're doing is not always right. It's that you have to land. You have to land. And she is that. She was always that. She always grabs and she is very frontal.

So she helps me, motivates me, pushes me. And that happened from the first moment I met her. She didn't give me the amen from the first moment I met her.

And that doesn't mean she doesn't admire you.

No, not at all. I think it's just that she, like you say, a fanatic, a person who loves you for...

You have fans outside.

Sure, for whatever reason. Once they asked me that, they told me, hey, don't you mind if people love you for things that aren't? And I told them, it depends, who is loving me? I mean, this person, she flatters me, flatters me, flatters me, but this person means nothing to me.

But she's my partner. me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga, me haga I liked. And besides, she had a lot of push, she didn't need me.

Do you feel that you are another person with her?

I feel that I can be completely me, rather. I mean, before I had to...

Like a mask?

No, I mean, yes, I mean, I'm a person who is very insecure. And that insecurity makes me not show myself 100% with everyone as I am. Comedy is my biggest mask.

It always is. We perform in front of an audience, we always have a mask.

So she has managed to bring out the real me, and the one I like, to come out at home. How did you manage to congenialize with your baby? Immediately. But you became a father overnight and also a dedicated father.

People ask... Jorge saw you buying toys,

clothes, saying, oh my God, what happened to Ricardo?

What happens is that there is a kind of tergiversation look, I use beautiful words tergiversation of the truth. But Jorge always showed us that side. Tergiversación de la verdad. Jorge siempre nos mostró ese lado.

Es que le encanta tergiversar. Ese es tu mayor... Pero no creo que tergiversara mucho. Lo que pasa es que la comedia... Tú sí lo decías. La comedia se trata sobre exageración, sobre...

Siempre le decía a mis alumnos, la comedia no es gris, o es blanca o es negra, pero la vida no es blanca y negra, students. The food is not gray, it is either white or black, but life is not white and black, life is rather gray. It's not that I don't like children, it's a big mistake and I have to please everyone who is watching this, it's not that I don't like children, I didn't want my own children, that's very different. The child of others is fine. I have worked with children all my life, when I was a. I always gave talks, I always did catechesis, I took care of children, I gave math classes and language classes to children from my school. And I've done it, I love it, in fact.

But you didn't want children of your own. I wasn't born until recently, the issue of children of my own. I wasn't born. And your connection with the child was immediate. Immediate. We met while we were already in love. A time passed until Katia invited me to her house and told me, I think it's time you met him.

And we entered the house, we laughed with the baby, and I automatically fell in love with the baby and everything that meant being with him. There came a time when I think the day that already kind cemented it was the day that Katia had to fly. That's a very beautiful story. Katia had to fly and the dwarf wasn't there, and I was the only one there. So he told me...

Your fireproof. Sure, and he said, I'm going to cancel my flight. I told him, I'll take care of it. He says, but you know everything I have to do. I've taken care of kids of all ages, no problem. And we literally spent two days together, like, brutal days, like...

Poor Katia would be begging all the saints

to not let anything happen. I mean, she left, she had to stay... I mean, it was like, twenty-five, six hours, put it that way. I mean, it was a day and a half. The thing is that we had a great time. We played, we ate, I cooked for him, I carried him, we played a lot, we watched television, I taught him to rock. I loved that. He's a rocker. He doesn't like Cumbia music very much. He's a rocker. He listens to rock and he does it.

How old is he?

He's going to turn three years old right now. Oh, so little. But he's already rocking. He likes it. He's a stereo. He likes it. He likes heavy rock. He likes it.

And he never asked you, who are you?

He doesn't speak. He doesn't speak. He's just starting to speak. I've known him for a year.

Of course, he's a kid.

A year. That kid must be calling you dad, right? ¿Le dice papá o no? Eso fue una curiosidad muy interesante. Él simplemente lo dijo y... Como algo natural. Y luego lo conversé con Katia y como que dijimos, está muy chiquito para confundirlo en este momento. Ya.

Está muy chiquito para confundirlo, así que él simplemente me dice papá a mí, le dice papá a su papá, le dice abuelo a mis papás, to his grandparents. But how wonderful, because when he's older, he'll understand that his family is bigger,

that he's very lucky to have two dads, two grandparents.

Yes, of course. The truth is that the relationship with the family is super cute. In the joke-

How is your mother-in-law?

How is my mother-in-law?

Because you are her son.

My mom, My mom... My mom is in love with my... Oh, really? That's wonderful. Yes, yes, yes. They get along very well. And they get along even better than I would like them to get along.

Yes, because you already lost there.

In any fight, no one will be on your side. They are never on my side. Never. Never. Never. I am always the... The culprit. I'm always the one to blame for everything that can happen. Katia has made me reconnect with my family.

Oh, you weren't so close with your family?

I'm a very independent person. Very independent. Very family-like. The Sunday I have to eat with my family, I'm not like that. I'm not like that. I'm not like that.

Katia is like that. And Katia is like that. And Katia is like... One Sunday she said, let's go to your mom's to eat. What? When? How? Why? Let's go. It's a family Sunday. And I was like, yeah, ok, let's go.

Yes, for me too. For me, Sunday is always family.

Sure. So, suddenly I was on a Sunday with my family and it was like... I love her, I love her so much. You don't want to see her every Sunday. But no, I'm not very family. In fact, my two brothers neither. We have been raised for some reason, very independent of the family, right? But Katia and the baby, and now this new baby,

has made us super more united. Yes, it's super cute, in fact.

How did you receive the news

when Katia told you she was pregnant? We were coming back from Miami, from a comedy festival that I was invited to. Very, very nice, it's called Miami es un chiste. And Katia tells me, Ricardo, something is wrong. I feel weird. I feel weird. And we bought 105 pregnancy tests. And I had it, urinating all night.

You wanted the result to In this negative salt. I said no, but it was like strange because I said it was like very free, right? We were not looking

logically and it happened, right? And then a conversation came of ok, now what's going to happen? And I told her and as I told you I had very clear rules that I did not want to have children, I also have very clear rules of what would happen if they come.

You had already thought about it. Out of her. I was already in your head. Out of her. Of course. And I said, okay, it's not that I'm a college student who is not going to finish his degree. It's not that I'm not doing well. It's not that I can't support a child.

It's not that I don't have a wonderful wife by my side. There's no reason not to have a child. You're the woman who has my son in her womb. So let's go, let's move forward. We hug a lot. And then we affirm a little bit the fertilization. Be careful, you know you can get pregnant again.

She wants a daughter. I wanted a daughter. I wanted a girl. I was dying to have a girl. You know that girls are always going to be more attached to the father. I don't know. Not for that. I wanted a girl. I'm going to sound bad. For science. I wanted a girl for science. Why? Because I would like to see how a girl develops

and have that issue of education and how she grows.

And that she doesn't have daddy issues when she grows up.

And see it, see it. I mean, see it myself. I mean, I find it very curious, more curious the development of a girl than a boy. To me.

Yeah.

Call me crazy, scientist, whatever you want.

But now there are ways to procreate a daughter, especially a woman, or have a son, a man. You can do that now.

In what pose?

How?

No, because you don't want it all natural.

No, no, no.

You have to miss that part.

Yes.

This part later. Yes. I'll tell you about that later. But she wants a daughter. And we're talking about what's going on. As I said...

What's going on? Can you sleep? Because it's a big job to have a child at home.

And you have two. And it's a job... My respects to the female gender. My respects. What a beast. I'm her assistant. Literally. What she wants and what she needs, I'm her assistant.

Literally. She does what she wants and she needs it. I'm there to tell her, yes, madam, carry the baby, yes, madam.

Bring me the baby. Yes, madam. Do you change diapers? Of course.

Have you fed her?

Everything.

Everything?

Do you bathe her? No. She doesn't want to bathe him. I have to bathe him. She gets nervous. I also get nervous. I hold him like a chicken. I love that part.

Really?

Yes, it's very funny.

Men are afraid of it. They don't even want to bathe him. They don't even want to touch him because they think the baby is going to get out of their hands.

But that's a little bit of reading. If the babies at this time are super flexible, they are super flexible, super manoeuvrable, you just have to be careful with the head. And do it right, because the head of a baby is not yet good. You have to lift the head.

And what do you do with both now? Because one has three, the other is just born.

We are in a very fun moment. Because we have gotten...

Do you think it's fun?

It's that... It seems to me laborious. I think it's funny. I think that the difficulty is fun. Because in the difficulty you get... Because one asks to be changed, to be fed,

and the other is crying because he wants the tit.

But where do the anecdotes come from? Where do the anecdotes come from? From the difficult? The easy part is not the anecdote. The easy part is to go for a walk and walk. From there, the anecdotes don't come out.

From the difficult... ¿Cómo se les agarrara irse un rato a la calle y pasear? De ahí no sale la anécdota, de lo difícil. El primer papá que escucho que la dificultad de crear hijos es divertido. Por supuesto. Mira, tú te vas a una reunión. ¿De qué hablan? ¿No hablan de, ay, mi hijo es lindo? No. Oye, este no sabe lo que me hizo. Ahí está la anécdota, ahí está lo divertido. The funny thing is that, logically, the king of the house now has another king, right? Now they are the two princes of the house, right?

So...

Sure, how to share time with them. The funny thing is...

And that the other child who has been displaced by another creature does not sit down. What we have left is that we are going to literally, like a little swing. When I am with the baby, for example, Katia does a lot of work for her son. And when she's with Cristóbal, who is my son, I play with him a lot. Now we're playing three times more than we used to play before.

So that he doesn't feel...

I'm actually trying a lot to play with him.

I think he's very responsible on your part.

And we play a lot. Right now we are just in the stage of learning the words. And I, who am a nerd, I'm teaching him words like that... No, that's difficult. When he goes to the nest, the poor thing will show up. He was telling me, bear, but what bear? I asked him, brown, white, gray, I'm inert. You're going to confuse all the professions. But that's what I want, that they confuse it, that it gives me material.

Why Cristóbal? Cristóbal was literally a long list of names. Until she said Cristóbal. I've always liked Cristóbal. I don't remember why she said it. I told her, I like him because of El Descubridor.

I told her Cristóbal because of Colón. I like Cristóbal. Many years ago I wrote a story about Cristóbal Colón. I said, Ibal. Yo hace muchos años escribí un cuento sobre Cristóbal Colón. Y dije, me gusta ese, me hace recordar mi cuento. Bueno, tiene personalidad. Sí, Cristóbal es súper chévere.

Cristóbal Mendoza. Claro, va a colonizar. Va a colonizar. Tú sabes que no era italiano Cristóbal Colón, ¿sabías eso? No, no sabía. I've been doing my last, last, last research and I've determined that it wasn't Italian. Do you read a lot? I'm curious about data.

When I'm given curious data, I like to investigate

and go beyond the curious data. What do you do at home to relax after you've finished your tour? What do you like to do in the family?

In the family, I mean your little family. Nuclear. Katia is very cinephile, she has seen more cult movies than me and more cult movies than me wow, that's a challenge for you she has a lot of cultural baggage from the cinema

we watch a lot of police series that I like, we play a lot with the babies we play a lot, a lot, a lot we try to play a lot and now I have spread my passion

for the beach. I really like the beach. So, I go to the beach or play instruments. I'm teaching the oldest to play instruments. So, I play with him, I sing, whatever, trying to make him do it.

And in your new house, do you have a small studio or something?

My whole house has instruments.

All of it. All of your house?

You grab, you do this, you grab a guitar, you do this, you grab a drawer. A flute, a quena.

The house of a frustrated singer.

Yes, exactly, exactly. I am a frustrated musician, completely. You have decorated your house, you haven we're moving to a new place, and of course the decoration is mixed. But she loves that the house has instruments everywhere. It's nice, the instruments are nice.

I love music. She likes it too.

My husband likes music more. We already have the piano.

He sings, right? He's the same, forget it.

He sings wherever he is, in a restaurant, in a bar, in the bathroom. He sings all the time. But it's...

You know, I get depressed when I can't sing. Yes? When I lose my voice. It's his therapy.

Yes, it's...

He has classes once a week. Me too. And he gets out of breath. He sings, sings, sings, sings.

Of course. Me too, me too. Before I didn't understand it. Claro. ¿Y si él canta, tú qué haces? ¿Yo? No, que yo no estoy acá cuando él canta.

¡Ja, ja, ja!

Es ahora yo trabajo.

No, no, no, pero me refiero a que si es lo equivalente, o sea, que... Mira, lo único que hago es, por ejemplo, hacer lo que hace Katia. Ok. O sea, no es que, como todo el mundo está acostumbrado a que todo el mundo le aplauda, I'm the one who pokes the balloon. Sure. I tell him, you're not breathing well. Your breathing exercises are not good because you're getting red when you're singing with the note. Very sharp, of course.

So, try this. And when I look at him, he's in public and he starts and everyone, ah, I applauded him. I swear everyone tells me, why do you applaud?

I can't stop being critical. So I look at him and say, he can do it. He does it better. He's doing it wrong. He's doing it wrong. And especially when there are people he doesn't know, because deep down he's shy, he gets even more red.

What a shame.

What a shame.

Who will be husband?

I'm good at this.

I'm good at this. But it's okay. Because I'm not at this. I'm good at this. I'm good at practicing with him. Because I'm not your fan. I'm your wife. I tell you what you're capable of doing. Sure, you see his real potential. What doesn't force you.

Because sometimes he's there and starts singing. I mean, hey, why the hell do you have class every week? And sometimes I write to his teacher and I yell at him. He's singing awful! He's singing a lot of opera! He sings popular songs, he sounds nice!

He sings opera, of course, right? He sings lyrical.

Lyrical, but it's nice that you go to a meeting or karaoke and you know how to sing popular songs.

That's very difficult for him. It's very difficult. It's difficult for the lyricist. But if you have a lyrical teacher, I'm convinced that you should take another teacher who is not lyrical. Popular.

Why?

A cumbita, of course. A friend, throw yourself a cumbita, one of José José.

They also do it, but you have to learn to do it, because changing from lyrical to popular is different. Super different. Poor Alfredo.

But if he doesn't tell you, who's going to tell you?

Exactly.

Of course. And that's important in a relationship.

Of course, you go to a bar and the rooster that's there is going to applaud you and tell you.

That one always applauds.

That one always applauds.

Men love that. Oh, how cute he sings.

Yes, of course.

Get out of here, you're singing horribly. No, but yes, I appreciate his art, but I'm a critic. I'm a critic to myself too.

Yes. That's what it's about. Of course, of course. Of course. But your hobby, don't you have a hobby?

I've never heard of your hobby.

Read. Read, okay. I read. I used to like cinema a lot, but television takes up a lot of time for me. It takes up time for reading. Because when I have to read, I'm reading a book, but I'm thinking about today's news. There's no note, and I leave the book.

And so I can take a month, two months. I don't read what I was reading. There's an interesting study that shows that the blank space in books, between letters or between lines, is the moment when you lose your concentration. I mean, of course, because, for example, what you say is because, of course, there's a blank space and just when you go from word to word,

your head has the opportunity to go to the other side. Of course, I fight against something personal, which is my lack of attention, which I have since I an effort to concentrate and not lose focus. So, I have exercises that I do, some special apps to be able to concentrate. That's crazy. Yes, because I get distracted with the most... I have the same.

Yes, with the most minimal. I can change right now, I'm talking about this, and then I talk about the other thing. No, yes. Or I can be doing one thing and I forget and I'm going to do it again. I can change right now, I'm talking about this, and then I talk about the other thing. Or I can be doing one thing and I forget and I'm going to do another.

That's what talking about is about, asshole. Of our lack of attention. You know that the other day we did a show, we got off the show and I said, today we have talked about 150 things, brother. I told Jorge, I don't remember the first one. We did the exercise, if you notice, look here, a little bit, we always say what we were talking about and sometimes we do a recount. We start with animals, animals, things, things, machines, machines, your wife, your wife, your children, the plane.

How do we get from animals?

That's why I always have my notebook, I do it doing this for all the years I've been on television. And I have my ideas. For example, I'm at a meeting and we say something, I say my idea, my things about a topic, and I write down the words, at least the keys. And that's why I always have my notebook. It's not that no one reads this to me, but I write down my central ideas. Because otherwise I just leave and that's it.

And how do you deal with technology for that? I imagine it's hard for you.

Do you prefer a notebook? Yes, the notebook. I prefer the notebook, I prefer the schedule. For everything else I'm on iPad and phones, but to carry my... I can't put my schedule on a computer.

Now there are apps.

I'm sorry, I have to write, and I write with a pencil.

You see, everyone has their own thing. Now there are apps that tell you, you say, hey, please, I have an idea, remember me later, I'll send you a WhatsApp. It just came out, I don't know if you've seen it. It's called Friend. It's a necklace that's your friend.

It's your friend, really.

And I sent you a WhatsApp. You put it on and I send you a WhatsApp. For example, you're going to walk and it says, Hey, is the weather nice? And you have to answer, yes, thank you. Hey, what are you doing?

Accompanying fart in your neck. I swear. People are getting more and more alone.

Yes, but I sometimes want my solitude and no one bothers me.

No one bothers me.

I'm going to wear a necklace, maybe a shiny one, but I'm going to wear any necklace. Don't go overboard.

The shiny one speaks to me. Are you a detailer? For example, February 14th, the day of the saint. I'm spontaneous, but I'm not a detailer. For example, if I see something that I think is very nice, I buy it and take it. Without a date, without a place. But for example, I don't believe in February 14th. No, I don't believe it, but she does. So there's a imbalance there. But it doesn't matter, you already make her give up.

Of course, of course. you make it give up. Because in a relationship it's about giving up. I always say that when you don't like something, look for a way to make you like it. My dad taught me that with math. He would say, don't you like math? No, now I find a way to make you more digestible. That's what he told me when I was 10 years old.

So for me, math was... I found a game and in liked math in it. I reconciled with it and I did it. That's my life. If I don't like something, I look for something I like about it. Katia likes going to nightclubs. I don't like nightclubs.

I look for one with live music. If there are instruments, I like them. So I go to the disco and see live music. So it's like half and half. Of course, you have to find the middle ground. Of course.

But you will have realized that a relationship is not easy. No, not at all. At first it's all romantic, you liked that brunette who was there, spectacular, rich, as you said.

But in everyday life, the coexistence is not like that, illusory.

No, that doesn't exist. And you have to know how to deal with it. What are your main reasons for arguing? The disorder.

Because you're organized?

No, quite the opposite. She's very organized, and I'm very disorganized.

That happens. In my case, it's like that. He organizes what I disorder.

But she can't stand seeing him messy. I mean, if something is messy, she wants to order it. Like she can't. So I tell her, calm down. You have your dog, we all have our dog. Of course, calm down.

Juanita is coming. Wait for Juanita. Juanita, theita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juanita, Juan I was like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it. I don't want him to see that it's messy. I said, but your job is to clean.

But he was rumoring it.

But what a shame, what a shame that it looks messy. He laid the bed. I said, but why are you going to lay the hotel bed? The hotel bed is messy. It's a clean hotel.

The cleaning guys were used to it.

Of course, I'm going to have to ask for a discount. The cleaning came with me. So I had to ask for it. It was a lot of fun to see him clean. He has a complex there. From Isaura. From Isaura the slave.

That's another phrase that Jorge would say, not you. I'm more vacila. Pero, ¿quién es más de la broma así, racista, discriminadora?

Tú o él?

No, no, los dos. Solamente que...

Porque él se cholea solo.

Él se marronea solo. Él se ha declarado como el rey de los marrones.

Y él con gusto, I mean, you see Jorge, he's a Peruvian. He's the Peruvian, the Peruvian, what's it called? The collective imaginary. So he has all the authority. But you're not blond either.

I'm not blond. I'm darker than my girlfriend. But you are? Really? Yes, of course. If Katy has the skin. Katy is of an Afro-descending race, but her skin is lighter than mine. And the question is that she... No, it's that he... Yes, he says it and everything, because there is an authority, right? And the comedy technique teaches you where your authority is.

So you are also on that side. It's not racism, it's satire. Satire is like knowing what's going on and using comedy to make it noticeable. That's what happens. Let's see, in Peru, do we have races? Yes. In Peru, do we have racism? Yes.

In Peru, are there differences? Yes. It would be silly not to make them noticeable. And we are comedians. We use all our resources to our resources to make people laugh. Does that mean that, for example, you are a racist? Not at all. You are just using it, it's there.

This is your element and you use it. And you make it noticeable and you play with it. For example, we hate, for example, Jorge and I have a very clear position about hatred to, for example Jorge and I, we have a very clear position about the hate for example, to the rape, right? For a girl to go through street harassment, for example, right?

And a lot of people think that because we are like that, like a little chavacanos, a girl can pass by and we stop the show. We stop the show. Oh yeah? We stop the show. Who has been?

I swear, it has happened more than once. They have very strict things. We stopped the show. We stopped the show. Oh yeah? We stopped the show. Who was it?

I swear, it's happened more than once.

They have very strict things.

Or for example, people think that since we are like this, neither Jorge nor I drink. We are not alcoholics. No? No. I drink more than Jorge, but I don't drink. I mean, I don't drink anyway. And Jorge doesn't drink anything.

Oh yeah? and who knows, maybe in the middle of the neighborhood, we drink. So they grab us and tell us anecdotes.

You were a carrot!

They tell us, for example, in the... The thing is, I went the other day with a girl, I went in the car to the disco...

What?

Wait, wait, wait. How did you go in the car to the disco? You can't drink and drive. Think about your story, we don't publish it. Because we don't tolerate that kind of thing happening. Because that's become normal.

Or in the province. The province is worse. The province is nobody's land. And people go on a motorcycle, drunk. And they don't pass anything. And they're 12 years old. 12 years old, drunk, on a motorcycle.

What do you do on a motorcycle at 12 years old, drunk? no pasa y con 12 años que 12 años borracho y en moto que haces en una moto de ese año borracho buscando de morir y la gente exacto no hay está tentando a la muerte y nosotros estamos súper en contra ok si alguien te va a contar una anécdota esa no las no la aceptamos no la sacamos o usamos la comedia para denigrar lo no para para poder decir eso está mal mira que no nos habíamos dado that we didn't realize they had their limits. Every actor has their own limits. Comedy has no limits, but every actor has their own limits. That's the theory. I'm talking about the theory.

Yes, but you have crossed some limits.

There are many. And in privacy, there are even worse limits. But you have to know how to moderate and play with it.

That's right. You have to go. You make mistakes and you go.

It's like you said. There's a comedian called Ricky Gervais, who's from the UK, who just released a super mega funable special. Super mega funable. So you see it and you say,

my God, how is this?

There are several.

There are several in the world. Yes, of course. And we, when, they are our idols, I mean, I grew up as a comedian, watching those comedians, and you tell me, that's, that's, what I say is a 20 year old girl with what he says, but logically he says it and he knows how to say it,

so you have to work on that. Of course, without hurting their susceptibilities, right?

Of course.

Especially a lot of people.

Yes, yes, of course.

And to finish, when are you getting married?

Well, I'm... I'll tell you an anecdote that no one told me. Let's see. At Christmas, we broke our engagement. How did you break it?

Ah, look at your clip.

Look at your clip. I'll explain.

At Christmas, we went to my mom's house, and I was already pregnant with Katia, of course, Yeah. It's a little bit... But the thing is, I just sent her another ring. Oh, how nice. A prettier one, a bigger one.

Besides, she already got rid of it.

Of course, she already got rid of it. And now we're going to do a little thing in the civil world. She wants to get married as a Catholic, as a religious person. I'm not much of that, but it's her time.

You have to give in.

Of course.

Yes, that's it. Of course. It's your time. You have to give in. Yes, that's it. That's it. Let me say whatever you want, whatever. Whatever. I don't care. I'm going to get married anyway, not you. But it's the man in love.

You found the woman of your life.

People say men don't change. They do change.

They change when they want to, when they really love. convertirte en un mejor ser humano para la otra persona. Hay una cosa linda que yo aprendí con la comedia que se llama, Jorge es como mi marido, por así decirlo, también en esto, se llama catalizador. El catalizador es que hace que tú comiences a avanzar de una manera más rápida. En la comedia, por ejemplo, tuve catalizadores maravillosos

como Juan Mancilla and Jorge Luna. And in real life, my catalyst is Katia. And I'm very grateful for being a catalyst in such a beautiful and rich way. And she wants to get married as a Catholic and a religious person. And I'll go back to my Catholic ways. If you're a catechist, I can't believe you. I can't imagine you as a catechist. Mom, I make the religious jokes I make because I worked at the Cathedral of Lima.

Oh yeah? I worked at the Cathedral of Lima, I was a paramedic at the Cathedral of Lima.

So you can get married well, you open the Cathedral of Lima, you have a job.

Please. You've been a worker there. Of course, I worked there, I spent my birthdays in the catacombs. Really, I swear! I know a lot about religion because I used to stop in there.

This devil, what could he have done?

Everything. I was in there when Cipriani was still there. Yes! Of course! Once Cipriani and I were serving a lady and Cipriani comes out and says, Oh, she lost her fat! And she was his childhood friend. I was sweating. How can you say that? The lady's fat fell off. How many cardinals, how many...

I've been a monk, a monk-bishop.

How amazing!

Of course.

At what point did you deviate from the path?

Only the Lord and I know that. But yes, so soon, very soon I will get married to Ciri.

Of course, because you will also baptize your son.

Yes, Katia says that so that the elves don't take him. I don't believe in that, but just in case, right? Just in case, you never know if an elf will appear.

You already have a godfather for your son.

I still don't have a godfather for my son. Jorge says he doesn't want to be because I'm going to make an agreement. ¿Tú tienes padrino para tu hijo? Todavía no tengo padrino para mi hijo. Dice Jorge que no quiere ser porque voy a hacer un convenido. No, te conviene. Me conviene que sea Jorge, claro. No, pero igual, ahí tengo... Lo que más me emociona de todos estos eventos es que voy a poder... Aparte de lo lindo y la ceremonia, es que, por ejemplo, Katia tells me, we have to get married, we have to throw a party, but we don't have to hire a band. You play all night.

My love, I'm happy.

You love that.

I'm happy. I'm happy.

The audience, suddenly, no. Your guests, no. But...

Yes, of course.

It's your wedding. You can do whatever you want.

I have 700 for you. There he is. With Christian we always stop there, just messing around with the music. Yes, of course, Jan Marco too, you are also my friend Jan Marco, poor thing that you don't come. One of your letters is Christian.

Of course, they are still expensive. I mean, you would save a lot of money.

Are they going to charge me?

What?

No, not even talking.

Or what? I think they charge the VIPs. Group 5. They charge a lot. Christian, don't be mean. How are you going to charge me? Just 10 minutes. I was the owner of Group 5 for a while. When?

In the pandemic. We met because Christian didn't know how to do live broadcasts. So we invited Jorge and I to my house and we taught him how to manage all the live broadcast equipment. So he does a live broadcast and so that the transmission doesn't go down, you have to put the songs in a copyright.

And since his page wasn't well done, which one was well done? Yours? No, mine. Oh, yours. And they put all the copyright on you? All the copyright on me. A year later, I got some complaints.

They said, why every time I upload a song from Grupo 5, the owner of this song, Ricardo Mendoza, doesn't allow you to upload this video. So I called him, oh Cristian, what happened? And he said, don't you remember? And I said, oh, you're screwed. Now I'm the owner of group 5.

And I was the owner of group 5 for a year.

And they didn't notice.

And he always sent me audios, or give me back my songs.

But I said, give me back my songs.

Oh, no.

In exchange for that, you have to go.

You have to go sing at my wedding. I have. I wanted to talk to you all afternoon, but... It will be another time. A second round. A second round. Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

It was a very pleasant chat.

I had a lot of fun. Well, you know, follow us on our podcast, Magali Medina El Podcast. Subscribe, click on the bell, and of course, we are reading all your comments. Subscribe, click on the bell, and of course, we are reading all your comments. See you. Bye bye.