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NETIZEN MUAK!! INARA UNGKAPKAN SEMUANYA DISINI‼️ SIAPA YG SEBAR CCTV⁉️ SIAP JADI ISTRI KE DUA⁉️

NETIZEN MUAK!! INARA UNGKAPKAN SEMUANYA DISINI‼️ SIAPA YG SEBAR CCTV⁉️ SIAP JADI ISTRI KE DUA⁉️

CURHAT BANG Denny Sumargo

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Did the marriage happen or was it just a coincidence? And even though I haven't said it publicly, I'm also a wife, I have the same rights. She was shocked to find out that her husband was married. Even so, I was shocked, especially with her response.

0:18

She said in the video that you were already in a relationship. That's you.

0:23

No, it's not clear.

0:24

You can't answer. It's not clear because you you can't answer you can't answer if you don't have any indication that video will be shared by Virgun

0:32

Virgun's video Virgun's video

0:36

Virgun's video how are you? I'm fine last time we talked here you were the one who got hurt.

0:45

Today, you're the one who's hurting, according to the netizen.

0:48

Yeah. It's a part of life.

0:50

We can't request our roles.

0:54

Do you feel like you're being picked on?

0:58

How? How?

1:00

Let's just...

1:01

Let's just clean up the mess. I want to make that statement, but... because the position... I am now... a wife. In Islam, it is mandatory to keep dignity.

1:16

Okay.

1:18

Let's straighten the wife first. So, at first, it was from the netizen,

1:23

who then brought M Mawa here.

1:26

I was confused.

1:28

I felt that Inara was once a person who was hurt. Why is she now hurting people? That's my POV. Then, the issue eventually developed towards the Sudanika Siri. Okay, let's go through the Nika Siri first. Did the Nika Siri happen or is it just a rumour?

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1:48

It has happened. It has happened. Is there any proof?

1:51

Yes.

1:52

Okay. Not from Suleiman, right? The perpetrator. No?

1:56

Everything that's going around on social media is a hoax. Hoax? Everything is true, of course. Yes, for the Syrian marriage.

2:07

So, the right one is Syrian marriage. Yes. And Derry Suleiman is not the one who started it. He doesn't know Menau. Including from the beginning, you met, it's not because of Ustaz Derry, right?

2:20

No, we met, he came to our house

2:23

because he was introduced to our friend.

2:25

Who is he?

2:26

Insan. Insan came to our house because he was introduced to a friend. So we didn't come to see him and immediately propose, no. We talked about business.

2:37

At first.

2:38

At first. Then, if people say, this guy, this guy knows all kinds of things, everything, community, they don't know at all. So, this marriage is for the people who really know, just the basic family. Just the basic family. So, it's not because it's known in the community, like a mafia, like a religious study, right? No, no, no. But, I mean, we don't mean to stay silent, we can't do that in Islam. We have to give proof, to avoid slander.

3:11

But because the situation at that time was not possible, he said he had family matters to take care of in Medan, because he was returning to Jakarta and Medan. As someone who just met him, I didn't dare to ask him what business he has

3:27

because you just met him?

3:28

yes, usually people say that I just met him, it's been a month did you meet him in a lecture or did you get to know him? I got to know him at home on July 14th so he went to your place? yes with someone?

3:43

with someone business? business that person has known you for a long time,

3:49

so business matters, what business at that time?

3:52

platform, travel marketplace, oh that's the beginning of acquaintance, with several other businesses, do you like it? No, of course not. No, of course not. I mean, Just be normal. I mean, we as entertainers, in the environment that we're in, we meet a lot of people. Not just entertainers, but also entrepreneurs and some professionals. And because we're used to being in a professional environment, so no matter how we want to shape people,

4:25

even if it's like a cock, we have to be professional. Do we have to be shy, have to be rude, have to be rude? No, we have to be professional. Business must be friendly. And you don't have to like it right away. So at that time, what I caught was that you were just normal.

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4:42

Just normal, very objective. What I see is purely how you a business, what I caught is you are just normal. Just normal, very objective. What I see is purely how the business opportunity is, then also what is the potential like. Okay.

4:52

The business is going well, finally together.

4:54

Yes, this is being suppressed because of a case like this.

4:58

Oh, so from that time the business hasn't been going well?

5:00

Already, already. It's already started. But the name of the business is about having an investor. We have to be responsible to the investor. So, because of this case, they also ask us about our responsibility.

5:15

So, when did you start to like him?

5:19

I can say that it's not like. Maybe I respect him more. I respect him more. I respect him because at his young age, he can think of many people, his employees. He built this business to empower the community, including my community. Because at that time, he wanted to collaborate his business with my social community.

5:50

Okay, so it started with respect.

5:52

Yes.

5:53

So it was intense to meet the business deal, right? Until finally you started to be eaten by Mrs. Jokraju, right?

6:00

More like...

6:03

What?

6:04

Like, for example, we want to develop a business. There must be a proposal, right? Why do people have to accept our business? Right? Well, he's developing it. I mean, like, I...

6:18

Yes, standard business.

6:19

I have a business, I have it. I've settled and all that. Then he's also met with his children and he's easy to have an affair with children. And coincidentally, I also had an affair with someone a while ago, but I failed. So, if people ask why I didn't get married first, in Islam, you have to get married first, before we make a decision.

6:42

I have been married since the end of the age of Idah since the end of the age of Idah and the previous one but this engagement is not just about the partner, right?

6:54

no, no, everything so you want to actually your relationship at that time was a date or

7:04

means an introduction the introduction is already done you were dating before? Actually, in Islam, the word ta'arif means introduction introduction, right? The introduction is already there, through the Bismillah

7:08

Yes, the introduction is already there But because I saw him I didn't ask him about my mistakes I didn't ask about his marriage status I didn't ask more details, more details

7:20

So I just listened to his explanation that he didn't want to... She wants to be closer, she wants to know more, she wants... She also loves my children, so it's like she doesn't want us to be close but it's a sin. But when you're close, do you feel anything? I'm confused too, how to explain the feeling.

7:43

Mixed feeling?

7:44

Mixed feeling.

7:45

You don't know yet? You don't know yet. You're happy, you're comfortable.

7:48

Yes, comfortable, yes. Because, who isn't comfortable? I mean, I'm single, single mom, I don't have a partner yet. We are very selective in choosing a partner because I failed before and I've never been in a relationship before.

7:53

The consideration is no longer about the relationship, not just about the appearance or the appearance, but how this person is ready to be a father for these three children.

8:17

Yes, that's your thought, right?

8:19

Yes, so at that time I evaluated that he had met the criteria. Because it's close, the the kids are comfortable, right? In the end, he asked you to marry him

8:30

Yes

8:31

When he asked you to marry him, he didn't tell you No His background, if he's married or not Okay

8:38

When he asked you to marry him, did you answer him directly? I said I'll think about it first So that day, it's not like it was a sudden day, but it's like I've talked about it a few times before. There's an intro, intro, that's the way. Okay. You're married yourself, aren't you suspicious? Because I've been married before. So I'm not a girl who has to, like, this is the first marriage, it has to be crowded, there has to be a guardian.

9:09

So, at that time, I happened to get the understanding at that time, because I admit that I did not have enough understanding at that time. So, I thought, what I knew at that time was, I was a wife, a wife is not required to to a woman. And a woman doesn't have to be a wali. That's what I understood at that time. And it's not necessary to make a big wali mah. Because this is the first marriage. But it doesn't mean we don't want to have a wali mah.

9:40

We want to have a wali mah. We were already fulfilling our wali marriage. I was a wali, there was one from my family too. His family, one of his parents, also knew that I was there. So I thought, well, there's no problem.

9:58

Hold on, Inara. Every woman, when she meets a man, she will definitely want to get married the next step is to get married

10:08

the marriage should be a marriage, not a love affair we are not planning to get married not a love affair? no, but because it's still a long time still in 2026, the plan at that time to go there

10:22

yes, like that

10:24

that's according to her and you want Nikah siri dulu aja, itu menurut dia. Iya.

10:25

Dan lu mau.

10:27

Iya, karena memang di circle kita, di circle aku juga itu bukan suatu hal yang tabu. Ada beberapa temen aku, misal contoh suaminya kerja di lembaga pip lah ya, gitu ya. Syarat di sana itu tidak boleh menikah. people people people people people people

11:04

people people diperbolehkan nikah baru diizbat. Maksud kamu begitu? Diadakan wali mas. Arahnya begitu. Bukan karena kamu udah tahu dia udah punya istri. Sekarang kapan kamu tau dia punya istri? Keterangan mawa. Di sini kamu katanya udah tau. Beberapa hari, beberapa lama setelah kami nikah, kami anak. Tanggal berapa? Coba tanggal berapa? A few days after we got married, we...

11:25

What date? Try to guess.

11:27

It was the 10th. August 10th.

11:30

August 10th.

11:31

Before the end of the month.

11:32

Okay, not October, right? No. August 10th before the end of the month.

11:35

Yeah, before the end of the month. Then he told me. I actually already had a wife. Was that after you got married? Yes. You didn't check the back of the dress first. Because I saw that he was still young.

11:47

So I thought it was impossible. I mean, he was already married. He was 26 years old. I didn't think he was already married and had a child.

11:57

People don't believe you. Honestly. It's okay. I'm sorry.

12:02

We're just cleaning the same thread.

12:06

But, what should I do?

12:08

It's okay. If you're that honest, then it's okay.

12:12

Because at that time, people were not in my position. I mean, I felt happy. There was someone who wanted to accept my children. And he was a good person. He was responsible. he's settled, so I don't think it's going to be that far. So you're under pressure? Well, we're women, we decide things based on our feelings. If we use logic, there won't be many viral cases.

12:39

Didn't you ask your parents? I've talked to my parents, I'm close to people, I said that. We plan to get married soon. Later, when the time comes to be official, we will invite all the family.

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12:56

Okay, your parents are just fans?

12:58

Yes, just fans, because they see, by the way, my father is already deceased. Because they see my brother, my mother, they saw me, a person who has been married before, so the decision is in my hands.

13:11

You should know the good and the bad.

13:13

Yes. They just don't expect it to be this long.

13:17

Okay.

13:18

So, if we take from your explanation, you don't know if he already has a wife After he got married, he finally told you Does that mean you feel lied to?

13:31

That's why I made a video yesterday

13:34

Oh, that's why Okay

13:37

When you knew he already had a wife, you didn't try to finish it? I said, I asked nicely, what is your situation now? What if he doesn't accept my presence? Because no matter what, even if you say you have dropped two plates,

14:02

he is still your wife. You are still tied to her. She still has the right over you. And even though I haven't declared my wife, I'm also a wife. I have the same rights. And as a husband, he is ordered to treat his wife fairly. So I also feel that I need justice. I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm his wife, I'm I don't want him to tell me about me, and then he doesn't want to see me there. So I don't have a voice to clarify my version.

14:53

Internally?

14:54

Internally. So from the beginning, I asked to be met, to sit together, so I could directly tell Em.

15:04

Yes, so that it internal issues can be solved

15:07

No matter what, this is a marriage Even though people say that, but that's a big family, it's still a family But the marriage should only be between husband and wife

15:21

Yes

15:22

Can you imagine if it's a big family? I have a marriage history. Can you imagine if it was Koko's business? He has a house and a house. Then, these two big families all joined in and gave their opinions. Did Koko's head explode?

15:36

It's confusing.

15:37

What he wanted was for us to live together. That's what he wanted. He tried to do that. He's trying to do that. And I'm also waiting for that business. I'm waiting for that good etiquette.

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15:50

I've even sent a message via DM to him. I said we have to meet. That's why I want to tell you the real situation.

15:58

Because you see his response is lacking. His interest.

16:02

That's why you try to contact her directly Yes, I want to make sure if their situation is really like this Simpang Siyur, you answer like this, Insan answer like that I don't know, I'm a new person I don't have Em's number, I want to reach her, she blocked me Yes, because she was also surprised I also want to say the truth,'s DM is not that unethical

16:26

and before there was a person like A, Shepel, who intervened he already sent my DM to his family I still have the proof I know where he got it from he was looking for a participant the point is, there is a DM from his cousin, Insa,

16:49

entering to discuss about our internal problems. I said, I'm sorry, why is this happening? We wanted to finish this together, why is it so crowded, everyone knows. I mean, what should I do? I want to talk to him directly.

17:08

Where should I go? I should send him a DM. That's the response.

17:14

I can't meet him.

17:16

But... Until today, I still can't meet him. I don't need to be told. I want to talk to him. I feel regret, I feel guilty I want to apologize too

17:28

But If I just say it in front of the camera It's not a solution If they want to find a solution If they really want to find a solution, you should sit in a group.

17:48

Why? Why do you have to involve everyone, even Indonesia Raya, even abroad? My profile is visited by 420 million people. What I got from Indah Raya, not defending her, it's normal because she was surprised to know that her husband was married. Even so, I was surprised, especially with her response. Everything that was said, shared, not everything, a lot of it was cut off.

18:21

She asked me to follow her, I followed her, I was blocked. I'm still in the chat. He asked me to follow him, I followed him, I was blocked. I'm still in the chat. Finally, the two wives fought. We were fine, he followed me. He asked for a follow, asked for a fallback. I followed. I was blocked. Yes, that's him. Because it's not allowed if we listen to his explanation, right? He had discussed that problem with me. Who?

18:46

M.

18:47

Are you ready to share your sadness, your pain, your wounds,

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or anything like that?

18:53

So there was a chance...

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We had a chance to talk, we talked very well. But in the end, you didn't meet in person, right? Because what I heard last time, we had already arranged a time to meet. Either I go there, to Medan, I'm information from Insan and his parents that what happened was like this, there was a controversy. Wouldn't it be more awkward if I were to go there? But is there a statement that is also a public statement?

19:34

Why am I biased against him?

19:39

I have it, too The point where I make sure

19:49

I will marry with the point of view of Iksan When her status is Sah

19:54

I didn't get what you mean What is that? Because I feel upset with Iksan

19:57

Okay

19:58

So at that time I was upset I mean, I can't meet Em She also doesn't explain from her POV I didn't know what Em was talking about. So I said, I'll just go back.

20:12

You had the chance to go back?

20:14

I said, I don't want to. I said, don't make me a bad person here. I never wanted to hurt people's feelings. Now what am I doing? I'm looking for validation.

20:30

That's her. What I mean is, what are you doing? My life was fine yesterday. Yeah, what are you doing in a relationship like this? We were doing a podcast here, you're a hurt woman. As soon as I was contacted by my creative team,

20:45

there's a woman who's been hurt by you, I said, why is Indara like this? I'm sorry, but I don't follow bad thoughts.

20:54

You're not wrong at all. And I don't feel... I don't feel at all, until today, for God's sake, I don't feel guilty.

21:03

Because...

21:08

I even told M, I see you the same way I saw me before. People say that she's not wise, open-minded, like me before. But, again, she's just a woman.

21:24

Hmm, I see. So, with all these efforts, then finally, M came to my podcast. She brought a proof. The proof that she brought,

21:37

you must have watched it, right? Or you didn't watch it?

21:40

I didn't finish it.

21:41

You didn't have the strength, right? She said there was a video of you two in a relationship with your husband and wife.

21:48

I saw it because I went through the litigation process. I had an interview with the lawyer. I saw the evidence myself.

22:02

That's you? I don't think it's like what they accused me of. But you saw that it? That's you? I feel like it's not like what I was accused of. But you saw it was you, right? Or not?

22:09

No, it's unclear.

22:10

You can't answer? It's unclear. You can't answer?

22:13

It's okay if you can't answer. Because, honestly, the video was cut, and it's unclear, so I'm confused. I don't know what to say but you know for sure if it's you or not? I'm not sure, I think it's not clear in the video

22:32

but you know the location, right?

22:34

the location is similar the point is you can't answer this clearly because this is a matter of law, right? yes okay, that's it now it this is a matter of law, right? Yes. Okay, that's it.

22:45

So you can't just ...

22:46

Sometimes it's still a matter of law.

22:47

But you know right and wrong there, you know, right? Uh ...

22:51

Know.

22:52

Right and wrong means in what ... I mean, is that right for you or not, you know, but you can't say it because this is a matter of law, right? statement that turns out to be inconsistent with the results of the legal process, we will spread hoaxes. Okay, so if it's not the answer, save it for the legal matter, okay? It's okay, that's the answer. So it's clear too.

23:15

It means, you assume, if we assume, that in the video, you and Iksan are already in a relationship and if we assume that, it means that it happened after you got married Yes, people who get married must fulfill their obligations and rights

23:40

So you got married?

23:41

Yes, but if you ask in the video what we did, it's obviously not marriage? It's already a marriage, but if you ask what we did in the video, it's clearly not what we were accused of. Okay, so it's already a marriage, right? So that there's no narration that you're not married yet. Because what makes it confusing is, is it really a marriage? And if there is a videoampaikan oleh Mawa, itu setelah Nikah Siri atau sebelum Nikah Siri? Itu yang merambing.

24:11

Kalau seandainya kami memang belum, belum Nikah Siri, pastikan aku akan mengambil jalur menuntut balik dengan pasal pencemaran nama baik. I don't feel like I have a relationship with humans. I don't feel like I have a commitment to him. But because I'm a wife, so what? I'm also demanding my rights. I'm also a citizen of Indonesia, I have a right to law. Okay. Now, we're going to talk about CCTV.

24:39

So you yourself haven't been able to discuss further that it's a recording of a person's body. Okay, now we're going to talk about CCTV, so you yourself can't say for sure if it's you or not. Okay, so if you can't answer for sure,

24:54

we can't discuss who spread it. Oh, we can't. Because, everyone is still in the loop. But what I was reported, what was barricaded for illegal access has been raised.

25:11

Okay, but there is no clear determination yet, right? Not yet. Later, after it is there, it can be explained further. Yes, so I don't want to put the investigator first. the He said, this is what he told me. I told you, because I'm in the media position. Then you said, yes, I'll let you know if I need anything.

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25:58

But I also understand, you need time to face this. Everything is in my head. Your mental was up at that time, you were on a one-week course. What's it like in the future?

26:10

There are a lot of mixed feelings because who isn't sad? Which mother's heart isn't sad that can't meet her children

26:22

for almost two months?

26:26

That's one point.

26:28

One. Two. I have a social community that doesn't know anything. Don't frame me, because they are in...

26:45

From all of this?

26:47

Yes.

26:49

So you sometimes feel uncomfortable with them? Too many people. To the brand, to the movie's PH, some were cut. Confused? How do you explain it? Because...

27:06

Because everyone has been receiving that information

27:11

swallowed, right?

27:13

yes, only from one side so and I also feel I don't have the right to explain you know, like I'm also a new person new person, I don't have the right to explain, you know? I'm also a new person.

27:27

I don't know anything, I just met him. I also hoped to be found, but it turns out I can't.

27:38

You want to say you're right, but your position is wrong.

27:40

I don't want to say I'm right at all. If you want to say you're right, but your the wrong position. So you're confused, right? Yes, I'm also wrong because I didn't ask. Because I'm not detailed enough. Because, yes, it can be said, maybe it doesn't matter if people say I'm stupid or whatever. I accept that.

27:56

I've never troubled people to insult me, want to judge me, want to judge me, judge me, insult me. It's not a problem at all. Because... I've been living in a hijrah since I got married to my ex. I've made a commitment. I don't want to live the life I'm living now.

28:21

That's what's safe from God. Not the social media.

28:28

Social media was just a tool for me. To make money.

28:29

To make money, to spread the word. So if God wants to take it all, it's okay, I'm ready. People say, I can't do it anymore, so I'm an artist. No problem. I never considered myself an artist. I still consider myself, from the thought of myself as a housewife, looking for justice.

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28:50

I just want to say that I'm here to find a solution. I'm not looking for defense. I'm not trying to justify myself. I just want to let you know that we I just want to tell you that we, no matter how bad our position as a wife is,

29:11

we are still not allowed to divorce our in-laws. That's what I learned while I was a comeback. I was a teacher to many scholars. That's why I admit that I'm not good at science. I'm not good at science. That's why I'm learning. That's why I built a community of scholars so I can understand better. But back then, you were the so-called netizen who was the victim of the incident.

29:44

Your position was the victim of the story.

29:46

Yes, because my position at that time

29:48

The term netizen also spread

29:50

Right, I don't deny that. But at that time I had asked for peace with my ex. I looked for his position, I called him to his hiding place. I called for peace before I made a police report. I said I wanted to take down all his posts. It was a week after he went viral. I clarified that I was wrong, I didn't do anything wrong.

30:23

I was insulted by the people of Indonesia. It's important for the children to be able to meet their father. But they said... ...that they can't. And I was the one who was reported, right? I was the first one to be reported. So I...

30:42

I have to defend myself.

30:45

You were trapped in a position where you were in a position where you were there before. But this is a different role. That's why I personally hoped that you would come up and give an explanation that shouldn't be here. Actually, I shouldn't be here either. But I mean, I hope you come up and give an explanation. But you came up and it was Iksan.

31:12

Yes. In Dr. Richard's podcast, did you know when he came up at that time? You knew he came up?

31:19

I knew because I was informed by the host.

31:27

Dr. Richard, the host of BUE. Did you cancel the contract?

31:33

No, it's been a long time.

31:36

You were persuaded. So, why did he show up there? I don't know.

31:44

He's your husband.

31:45

Come on. At that time, we decided to...

31:49

Break up first?

31:51

You're mad? It's because of you? Yes. But from the beginning, you told your wife to clear things up.

31:58

I mean, he's a husband. He should have a good attitude.

32:02

He has a good attitude. He went to Dr. Richard.

32:04

Yes. I'm a musical now it's a different a sick of candy. I'm sure dr. Richard can yeah, it'll permit on dia when they haven't finished their conflict yet.

32:26

Isn't that right, sir? Well, that's the term, it's wrong that needs to be fixed. Well, he tried to fix it by appearing on a podcast, right? Well, when the podcast, you were still together, right?

32:40

Well, because this is not a date, right? Not like a marriage, saying goodbye, coming you're married and you're breaking up.

32:46

So there is coordination. Now I want to ask you, at that time when he appeared on the podcast, did you allow it or not?

32:52

I said it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, it means it's unclear. Was that his own decision or... It's his own decision, because there is no management like that. Okay, so it's his decision wants to clarify in a podcast he contacted Dr. Richard

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right?

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he said he was the one who contacted

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he contacted Dr. Richard he clarified there after he clarified you watched it right?

33:20

I didn't watch it until it was over all the shows about him about him I didn't watch it until it was over. All of the shows about him... About him, I didn't watch any of them. I only watched a few and then I closed my social media. I didn't open my social media since the beginning. I neutralized everything. So you don't get stressed, right?

33:40

Yes.

33:41

Well, after that, there were a lot of clips. Was there any clip that you wereanyak to Adam I am looseable bonget later report case you to Not house and I say I'd Medicine and a car and I would like like yeah, I'm gonna know Tom some facial side I was only like a odia the tie and the podcast near a tree chat. Oh, yeah, he's on Dr. Richard's podcast. Oh, well, that's it. Okay.

34:05

Because that's not what I was waiting for. From the beginning, what I asked for was to sit together.

34:10

That's it.

34:11

That's your hope? That's it. But at least he's been doing one thing to clean up your good names, right?

34:20

I don't feel like my good names are being cleaned up. It's even more destroyed.

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34:28

So what do you want Iksan to do?

34:32

He should meet us so I can talk to him directly.

34:34

Right now?

34:36

Or if he feels he's not strong enough as a husband, he should take action. I'm not brave enough to say anything because in Islam, a wife cannot dominate her husband, let alone order her husband to divorce his other wife.

34:50

That's haram. So, you take a stance. Okay. What stance do you think should be taken, not to precede, to solve all these problems?

35:03

Until today, I still hope to be found. Okay. Does he try? He tries. and I'm not a type of person who likes to be criticized like that. Maybe it's his way, his hope is that when he wants to sit together, maybe. No, I don't think it's solutive.

35:37

Not solutive? No. He has to be close to the interviewer. So I'm actually confused, I'm also in the middle. I'm also in the middle. I'm also in the middle.

35:43

I'm also in the middle.

35:44

I'm also in the middle. Maybe you want to sit together. Maybe. No, I don't think that's a solution. Not a solution, huh? No.

35:47

He has to get closer. So I'm actually confused too. I'm also in the middle. I'm also in the middle. It's like watching Kaiju fighting. I can't do it because the one next door is also a wife.

35:58

True.

35:59

I'm a new person, I don't have the right to ask for permission, let alone invite all kinds of people. My husband is here too, he has a decision, I can't put him first. So what should I do? People say, I'm sorry. How can I apologize? Who should I meet? With whom? If they expect me to clarify in front of the camera, while this is a legal process, it's a mess.

36:24

Where do you want going with this relationship?

36:26

So, it's Iksan who has to make the decision.

36:30

Yes, it's not solutive either. I'm talking in front of the camera, is it going to make you forgive me? No. In the end, it's just like a truth. Will it make you withdraw the report? No. Will it make, with the request for forgiveness,

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make people forgive me too, or my name become good? No. So I thought, it's better if I meet M. Because the problem that is happening is not between me and other people outside this house. This is between the three of us. And the problem is, I never had a chance to hear it myself from the POV of M.

37:07

All this time, I only got the information from Insan. I know what I did in the past was wrong. I told my ex. I opened my own... You think that's wrong now? Wrong, because people think I'm a propper.

37:37

If it's wrong, it's a sin.

37:40

But you don't want to comment that Eva Manurung's mother is... I've never responded to people outside my in-laws' house.

37:52

But you're the mother-in-law.

37:54

I don't care. I don't need validation from anyone. I want to be known. You don't want to add more friction, right? I'm more to... I just read the book.

38:08

Okay, so... there's no indication that the video was then spread by Virgun, right? If the narration in the netizen is like that.

38:17

If I make a statement about it, I'm worried I'll be ahead of the investigators. Because... the investigators also decide... everything based on true evidence. So there's nothing outside of your statement accusing one of the parties for now about the video, right?

38:34

So that later from the investigation that will be discussed later, right?

38:38

Yes.

38:39

So I try to convey why I chose to go viral. Because, one, I felt like I was a threat to their lives.

38:52

Oh, for protection.

38:54

Second, I wasn't given any income at the time. You needed income too. I was a housewife. I didn't shoot for 7 years. to There are four staffs that have to be paid. The fridge has to be filled, the house has to be paid, the electricity, and all kinds of things. Who do I have to ask for it from? Online donation. But still, even so, I don't want to allow what I'm doing.

39:38

Because from my teachers, they all agreed that we will not be sacrificed before we do or get the slander that we have done to others. And I got it now. So I also remind the viewers, all of us, myself too, to be careful. You can make your own speech. Because, it's not karma, there's no karma in a husband, but there's a kavarah.

40:14

So what we do will definitely go back to us. Then, how do you want Iksan to end this?

40:26

If you had met him, it wouldn't have worked out until now.

40:32

I would have given him a deadline.

40:34

You would have given him a deadline. If the deadline is not met, it's confusing. I'm confused. We'll see. We have to ask people who understand the religion and so on.

40:52

Yes, of course. I have a big family that I have to take care of. I have three children. I have three children. I have... I have a career. I have to work, no matter what.

41:12

Even though the children get the benefits from their father, I can't ask my ex to take care of me.

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41:19

But your children were adopted by their father. So you've been with them for two months. Almost two months. Two months. But you've been with him for 2 months. Almost 2 months. But you still keep in touch with your son. You still have a connection. Rarely.

41:32

You don't want your son to be too down. Or how?

41:38

Actually, if only he could meet the criteria to be a father figure, that is in accordance with Sharia, I wouldn't be so hesitant to take the children's shoes off.

41:57

If she loves them, if she can take care of them, and take care of the children, then go ahead.

42:03

You don't mind if the children follow so please. You don't have a problem if the children follow their father?

42:06

No problem. But the problem is that the children know the answer until the end. And I know how the situation is and the situation is actually in the place of the father of the children. But you were framed yesterday on social media.

42:24

I saw the framing, you were rude to the children

42:27

All the talk must have evidence

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because this is a legal country I heard there was a CCTV

42:34

Yes, whatever it is, this is still a legal country All the talk must have evidence If there is no evidence and no evidence

42:42

there is a legal consequence So you answer that means you're not rude to the kids. But...

42:48

What does rude mean?

42:50

Have you ever yelled at the kids?

42:52

Sometimes people have different perceptions of rude. Sometimes, there are people who are firm with their kids, and they're considered rude. There are people who talk to you, I don't know what you mean by rough. But what I understand is that in Islam, hitting a child is not allowed. It hurts.

43:12

It hurts until it leaves a scar. So, don't set a limit on your child. Don't set a limit on your child. Don't set a limit on your child. Don't set a limit on your child. You can't hurt someone until you leave a scar. So, your limit is not to hit or pinch someone.

43:32

If you pinch someone, is there a scar? No, I've never pinched anyone. If I hit someone, I've done it before, but it was because of something fatal. For example, stealing. Stealing doesn't just mean money, right? But taking without permission, and it has been done repeatedly. And we have taught repeatedly, told repeatedly.

43:55

But still, there must be consequences. As children, we must provide education for them can learn that there are consequences in life. If this child has to be with a good figure, if I'm not good enough, then at least introspect yourself. I mean,

44:28

Imagine, the kids are watching, they're probably watching this, watching and following this case. Or someone wants to cover their eyes, cover their ears,

44:36

I don't want to know about my parents. Have you thought about it that far? Like, how do I explain it to the kids?

44:44

For the past problems, my problem with my ex, Alhamdulillah, the kids are the first to blame. I've given him the understanding that I admit that what I did was wrong. And he, Alhamdulillah, the kid, he said, what has passed has passed. Mommy is human.

45:06

Mommy can make mistakes, can disappear. As long as Mommy repents, she won't repeat it. That's it. Alhamdulillah. So, Alhamdulillah,

45:18

I always tell my children that their parents are not heroes, not perfect figures. We are also human. We can be wrong, we can be wrong.

45:29

We can all be wrong, actually. But how do we fix the mistakes that we expect?

45:36

Right. What we focus on is the solution.

45:39

The solution.

45:40

The solution.

45:41

The solution now, if we talk about it from the beginning, is with Iksanul. on Iksanul, right? How Iksanul wants to make a decision, right?

45:48

Because no matter what, he is the head of the household. Head of the household, like that. And until today, what I see is only I love you Mawa, I love you Inara. So the impression, sorry, the impression, I want to keep both of them. The impression that I got. Actually, from the beginning I was always convinced by Insan that M was ready to be polygamed. This is according to the POV of Insan. But because I can't

46:16

communicate directly with M, I also didn't get the POV of M, what is it like? I just nodded. I'm just being a bit of a nuisance. I'm just being a bit of a nuisance.

46:26

But did you ever want to be polygamous?

46:30

I offered it to my ex. Why did you want to be polygamous? Because not all girls want to be polygamous. Maybe he wasn't enough with me, he's not enough. With me, I don't take care of him enough. I don't pay enough attention to his needs.

46:54

So I'm fair. If he's allowed to, then it's better... Very obedient. It's better for him to get married again than to be a servant. He's a patient. He'll ask me too.

47:04

He'll ask his children too. If he fault too. It's the children's fault. If you use POV, it's understandable. It also damages the offspring. That's why I offer a polygamy solution

47:14

to my ex. So, you're open to polygamy.

47:18

I'm very open. That's why when you know, you're like, I'm the second wife.

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47:24

We'll sort this out. you were like, I'm the second wife, right? Oh, well, we'll sort this out.

47:26

I think now, if I've made a statement in some podcasts, I said, there's no good woman who wants to be... who wants to be with her husband. I did it wrong. I shouldn't have said that.

47:46

Because it's the same as me insulting polygamy, insulting the wives of the Prophets, the Ummah Muminin. I insulted the wives of the Prophets' friends. Did they blame each other at that time? No. We understand that it is Sharia.

48:53

I am very grateful that I was given the opportunity to fill in this podcast to will be a remover of my sins. And no one will follow the mistakes I've done. Amen. That's all. Hopefully, my statement can

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put an end to my responsibility in the afterlife in front of God.

49:22

But, in the end, a mistake must be corrected, and the one who can correct it is everyone in this problem, the first party. If we listen to your story, and assume that we try to believe POV, even though not everyone believes it, it is actually Iksanul who has to give a attitude.

49:46

And... Let's say Iksanul wants to go forward. With Mawak, for example, he doesn't want Mawak anymore. Do you still want to be with Iksanul?

50:06

At the moment, I can't answer that question yet. Because, again, I want to see the video first. Yes, read it. What is the question like? For example, he let go, well, it's up to him,

50:18

he can't convince Iksanul, in the end, it's up to you. Just assume, you two't want to have high expectations. I don't want to take conclusions too quickly. Okay. Because... You want to be explained first.

50:48

Yes, because again, if we live this life based on assumptions, feelings, our life will never be settled.

50:58

Yes, yes.

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That's why there is a name for it, Shariat. There is a name for it, Aqidah. There is a name for it, a belief, a rule from Allah. So, whether we like it or not, bitter or not, we have to accept it wholeheartedly. I just hope that I can solve it,

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get the idea, get the guidance from God.

51:28

Do you still keep in contact with Iksan? What's his name? Insan? In, Insan. Insan. Did you see him posting stories about blood? His hands are bloody.

51:40

He likes to meme Iksan.

51:42

Oh, not a lie. She's laughing. Are you talking about your husband? No, I'm not Before this, when we were still in good terms I saw it for myself

51:56

He likes Mimisan

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But he posted it on social media

52:02

I don't know about that I think not all Gen Z are like that everyone is being content that's why I feel wronged here it's like talking about my siblings

52:17

yes, but you like it

52:19

how can you not like it? yes, I'm already spoiled but you didn't fight with him? Because of all these problems that you've been trying to tell him from the beginning. You should have solved it. It's not a fight. More precisely, I was...

52:40

I was harsh with him a few times.

52:42

Did he fight back?

52:43

No, he admitted his mistake.

52:45

So, you didn't fight back.

52:47

Yes.

52:48

I salute him, even though he's already broken. We can say that we're all broken. But he's still, with all his limitations, no matter what, his business will be affected. He still pays his taxes. He still answers chat.

53:12

He still asks for news. He still tries to find a solution, even though people know that there's no solution, there's only drama. But he's trying.

53:27

I'm not mentioning his name, because it's a waste, if I mention his name, it's already ruined.

53:32

It's funny, sometimes it's funny.

53:35

But I'm just talking about facts, I mean, just the fact.

53:39

Yes, that means, especially now, you're still husband and wife, right?

53:44

Yes. Yes, that means, especially now, you are still husband and wife.

53:45

Yes. But, imagine if one day Allah does not stop you from being together. Are you ready to let go of your hatred?

53:55

I'm ready. Whatever happens in my life, I always take the wisdom. I'm always sure that what Allah has given is the best.

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54:06

The best, yes. Are you ready to have a child?

54:08

Whether I continue my career in the entertainment world or I stop my career, even before I met Insan, I was going to step back from the entertainment world because I know there are many slanders.

54:23

But if you're together, are you ready to have a child?

54:28

I think it's still far away, if I go there So you're not pregnant right now?

54:34

Because there are netizens who say you're pregnant

54:37

Yes, the netizens said it was true

54:41

Yes, you just say slander, I mean, it's a straight line. So it's clear. Because if you want to solve a problem,

54:50

you have to answer it clearly. Back again, I always say, anyone, it's up to you to believe anyone, but what's clear is,

55:02

when we hear some information, we have to be alert. In information, we have to be alert. In Islam, we have to be alert. We have to see if the evidence is valid or not. There must be at least two male witnesses or three female witnesses. If that is not enough, then what is the point?

55:20

But the problem is that if you want to find a solution? You have to solve it one by one. I just focus on that. How to solve it, what is the solution for the future. Because I also need clarification. My children also need clarification. Everyone needs clarification.

55:36

Okay, ready. I hope Iksan can solve this well. Because this is indeed from the beginning of him. If I hear from your story. When is from the beginning of her story. When is her deadline? She knows.

55:49

She knows? What about the month?

55:53

Before the fasting.

55:55

Before the fasting, so it's close. Hey, Insan. It's close. I will try to sort it out. Whatever the decision is, I'll try to respect it. I agree.

56:08

Is there anything you want to say to Mbak Mawa? Maybe the last one, because you're both women.

56:12

Yes. I don't blame what has been done to you. Even though, right now, it's not just me who's broken.

56:24

We're all broken.

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that...

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Yes, this is a situation that I regret.

56:45

That we both regret. It shouldn't have happened to such a massive extent. But I don't blame anyone. You don't blame humans either? I don't blame anyone. Because everything, everything happened because of our choice.

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But everything is up to Allah. Who wants to be the second choice?

57:14

And who also wants to be the second choice?

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If it's from the beginning of the target, I want to be the second choice, my life is comfortable abroad. Why do I have to work? I'm tired. And who also wants to be the second choice? Because the POV is two. foreign you can solve it together. Because if we listen, there are two women waiting for a decision. Whatever it is, if we want to continue,

57:53

I still appreciate it because it is based on the story of the Prophet, who was a polygamist, no matter what, as a second, third, or fourth wife, we have to respect our husband's first title. But the longer the series is,

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if it's not immediately decided, the series will be a bad series. If you make the right decision, the series will be a good series. Thank you, my best teacher.

58:34

I'm sorry to ask you this.

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I feel like I'm not just anyone. Insan Betul is my husband, but he's not mine. I always believe that a husband is not ours, not a wife's. And vice versa, he's Allah's. So, if someone says, later on, your husband will be taken away by someone,

59:00

that husband is not human, not ours. He's God's, I'm not God Okay, you don't want to say I love you inside?

59:10

She already said I love you, why don't you answer? She already said I love you, why don't you answer?

59:12

Don't, I'll get a GERD if I follow you

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