#ngopenk PODCAST YANG DITUNGGU-TUNGGU NETIZEN: BINCANG BERSAMA dr. GIA PRATAMA!

The smoker always debate like this. Cukai helps BPCS. How does Dr. Gia solve that? Yes, that's right. Well, Do you know how many dividends of BUM in Indonesia

that Indonesia received compared to Cukai Rokok? I searched, and I lost. I'm losing

Okay, Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Still with me, Dr. Tirta Cita And today we are not alone Because we are together, the only one The most successful, Dr.Gia Dr. Tirta, we meet again for the second time I'm doing a show

Oh, I'm I'm doing a cosplay If you're Dr. Tirta You can read Dr.Gia's Youtube and invite me

Okay

Dr.Gia's style

Assalamualaikum, everyone.

Today, I'm so happy. We have an amazing guest. There's no one like him in Indonesia.

Dr. Tirta.

That's the most excited one, right? Yes.

Hello, Dr. Gia. Dr. Tirta. Now, we don't have an old man.

No Waseed. No Waseed. If there's no one, I'll be more lost. But I won't be too... to the point. It's okay. This is an inter-responsible conversation.

So, for the netizens who are confused about the term doctor, find it yourself. Find it yourself. Dr. Gia, I want to ask about your career journey.

Oh, yes.

Your career journey.

How did you choose the path to be a doctor? Well, I've told you several times that I didn't have no intention to be a doctor. I was obsessed with astronomy. Not because I wanted to, but because I was obsessed. I was so good at physics, I was good at gravity, I even won a competition.

Really?

Really. I was blinded. I was obsessed with astronomy. I couldn't be a pilot like my father. I couldn't do it because of my blindness. It kept increasing. I was a classic.

How bad was it? 6 or more. I was 4.

4 out of 3.

I was diagnosed. Now I'm 0. It's just anti-blu-ray. I was a minus. My dreams were shattered to become an astronaut came true. I really love it. The speed of the Earth,

the distance to Mars, the composition of Jupiter, I know all of them. I was so obsessed with this universe.

Then,

I complained to my mom, because I failed. Then, my mom said, you want to be an astronaut to admire the great creation. There's another field that can make you admire the great creation,

which is medicine. Why don't you just go to the doctor? It's true, when we go to the doctor, what do we learn? Anatomy, physiology. It becomes a microcosm. Now, it's a macrocosm.

This is a microcosm.

The human body is so beautiful. They don't speak, but they communicate with each other. The heart speaks to the lungs, to the brain, to the kidneys, using hormones. Wow, it's amazing. It's true.

This is the beauty I can observe. Besides the love for the universe out there.

You chose to go to the doctor because of that?

I did. So, you did physics in high school? I did both. Even in high school, I already studied physics. Even though the others didn't.

So, you did both in high school and high school? In Tasi? I was born in Jaksel. My parents were from Tasi. What about your high school? Elementary, junior high, senior high. I'm from 34, from Ponok Labu.

Oh, I see. But, I also went to the University of Indonesia, I studied chemistry.

Really?

I was a good example for my wife. So, I was going to tell Radit, but I forgot. Dr. Tirta has a lot of similarities with my wife. My wife's father is Indonesian-Chinese, her mother is Pakistani-Javanese. Is she tough? She's from Surabaya.

But chemistry is fun, but there's a reason... My wife's chemistry degree was awarded.

Oh, her S1?

Her S1 was awarded for chemistry. So, she's a in solving feelings and emotions. Dr. Kia, that was your career journey. Now, I want to ask, do you still remember the most memorable memory when you were in the S1? Yes, I remember. We were six years old, right?

Four years as a doctor. Two years as a co-ed student. But we learned more in the last 2 years... compared to the 4 years of college that I felt. Because we were directly facing the patients. The effect of the medicine was so real.

If we had an advantage or a disadvantage, it was so real in the patients. So, I learned a lot in Koas. So, the memorable thing was when I was in Garut. Oh, the one you told us about. That's it. It turns out that he's from Jogja too. He's famous.

His relatives have a business in male skin care.

BLP. He's famous.

What's that? Dr. Cristo, right?

Lipstick.

Yeah, lipstick.

What about the one in S1? The S1, the S-Cut. Do you still remember? Yes. Memories of your friends. It's weird, for those of you who don't know, in the first year of FK,

you already learned about diseases. In the first year, you learned about cells, histology, biochemistry. We were like, why did we learn this? But as time went by, we learned about the diseases.

But did your family know about it? No. They just ask. Because we're only in the first semester. I have a headache. What's wrong?

How can we know?

Even though we're just learning biochemistry. It's a waste. That's it. I was still so spoken. I was taught safely. But, if you ask...

If you think, I'm a friend,. But if you ask me, I think I'm a bit of a f*****g idiot. Don't say that. That's my fault. I'm not saying dirty words here. Dr. Gia, I want to ask again. Did you ever have an internship? Yes, I did. In Dr. Gia's time, there was no internship.

I had an internship. Was it the last one? The last one was have an internship After that I had an internship That was the last time I didn't have an internship So, in the time of Dr.Gia, was that your first job before you went to the IGD? No, I was accepted at the hospital

Immediately at the IGD? Immediately at the hospital Immediately at the hospital? Not at the clinic So, after the COAS, the ICIP, the MAGEL, you went went to the hospital, I was still confused about SOP. I was still a nurse. I was a head nurse at the time.

Then, thank God, I was a good mother. The doctor was a motherly mother. So, I was like a sister. I learned a lot from everything there. Back then, it was still written, it wasn't EMR yet. What I had to be filled, completed,

how to send the prescription, that's new, right? Oh, I see. Then, receive the medicine, give it to the patient, observation, all new things, using the monitor. And the more patients,

the more we learn. That's why flying watch is crucial.

Right.

Flying watch is so effective. Not only can you read from the book. Not only from a book. When you were in college, did you ever become an astro? Actually, I became an anatomical astro, because I love hot weather. Anatomic, typical. Anatomical astro is usually like this, talented in teaching.

That's why I didn't pass, I was taught everything. Out of all astro, why did you choose anatomy? That's why I wanted to pass. I was taught everything. Out of all the ASTOS, why did you choose anatomy? That's why. I wanted to admire the creator and the master. Anatomy is that, right? We see the heart in the right position. Tongue, we just know the tongue is a bit long,

it can go all the way to the back. The shape of the pancreas, like a leaf. The sphincter is only as big as a hand, and a lump on our left side. It's so beautiful. If you look at Dr. Gia's content now, it's all about anatomy.

That's why I'm different from Dr. Gia. He plays the role of energy. I'm backstage energy. I don't want to look young. Have I ever shown a photo or video of my activity? No, I have never. The content is between video anatomy or writing. Have I ever shown you a photo or video of my activity? Never.

The content is between video anatomy or writing.

True.

So if you understand, I actually have two professions that are already married in my head. As a clinician and as a writer.

Okay.

Stuck in my head. So whatever I write, I'm really happy. Even in high school, writing was my extra income. So, if there's a guy who wants to shoot a girl, I wrote the poem. In the campus of Dr. Gia, is there a HSC?

Yes. Do you know HSC? So, the system is blocked, right? Yes. So, we have a system that's blocked. Then, we have smart The system is already blocked, right? Yes. It's blocked, right? So, we have a blocked system. Then, we...

There are smart friends, Hobie Nulusu. Then, we write it. Then, we spread the writing. That's me. No wonder. And, Hobie Nulusu, in his first year of medical school,

he always notes from high school. So, if he wants to shoot, I'll pay 50 percent, and if he accepts, I'll pay 50 percent more. In the end, I accepted 100 percent. Because everything was set. In high school, you also wrote?

I wrote. And the writing must have been distributed to people. I photocopied it first.

That's right.

The one who photocopied. I don't like to write. Really.

I prefer to record during my college. Oh, recording. Recording. Then, after that, slides. So, if I'm a system... We will make a doctoral student.

How to study for a doctorate. If my way of studying in S1, I will record during my college.

Okay.

I will record using voice record.

Then? There's a tool, right? It will be re-recorded. I will read the slides, and listen to the recording. If it's a doctor, how do you learn to be a doctor? So, I understand that the sharper the human brain is,

the sharper the pen is. The writing is sharper. It's written. And, strangely, I don't know why, but to help my memory, writing is very helpful. For me, writing, so what's the point? Oh, he's discussing this, part of physiology, for example, from point A to point B,

how can there be a connection? Oh, it's in that path. Well, if it's a block test, does that mean the doctor reads all the writing himself? Yes, for example, a scrap cycle. For example, yes, Okay, that's it. Oh, the flow is like this. That's why A becomes B.

It's obvious. What's the name of the bridge to the liver? The bridge to the liver. That's what I made.

I forgot what it was called.

Ha, ha, ha.

That's the bridge to the liver. So, if one of them is sick, it's really bad. What I thought was, I was more impressed by the powers. Imagine, the eyes, this small, small, complex, the depth is so beautiful. It needs one specialization, which is the eyes, nose, ears,

the jaw, one more specialization, the heart, one more specialization. Heart, one more specialization. What else? Skin, one more specialization. Science, one organ only, needs one specialization field. What does God's knowledge look like? You know everything.

Really?

It's so beautiful, right? In the end, there was a difference in a way to differentiate between learning and studying. So, this is the surprise. In front of us, all the videographers are obese. No, I can't see. Too positive thinking.

I personally have never seen this. Dr. Gia, if it's someone else, he's too good. Now, all of their friends, all of my YouTube viewers, know that I'm half dead when I'm with them.

Now, I'm cosplaying. I'm calling. The story is how Dr. Gia treats him. Okay. I'm giving this person, this patient's name is Andriy Jatnika.

Andriy...

Not yet. I'll give you the case. Anamnesis first. So, Sumari... This is a test. For example, I'm delivering news.

But this is true. Andri Jatnika, a.k.a. Dori,

his hobby is micro-sleep. So, he'll sleep a little, and he'll to edit. He'll edit the video while eating. Now he's in a sports program but he's stuck. How to educate him?

His tension is unstable. How to educate him so he can set the intermittent fast or eating pattern? Okay, I'm not calling anyone. Where is he? He's here. If I'm holding it,

if it's not in my hand, I'll just do this. It's okay if you want to exercise like this, at least tomorrow, you'll get a stroke.

I'll just do that.

Then the netizens said, it's so violent, a little bit and you it was a stroke. Now, the netizen requests, if you're tired, go to Dr. Gia. Yes. I'll call him.

I'll go to the bar and watch from the side. Come on.

This is how to educate directly. Not yet, right? Not yet.

Is this really if you meet a patient?

Not yet.

Come here. Sit. Come here, sit down Put it on yourself Look at it Is it true that if you're a patient, you'll be like this? How much is the last weight?

1, 2, 2

1, 2, 2, okay

I'm left-handed

I'll call you Dori Dori, call me Dori

I'm the cameraman, you have to see

You have to see

This is the cameraman He's the one who also shot the zombie I'm a cameraman, I'm a fact. Look at me. Look at me. Look, cameraman. Cameraman.

He's the one who also did the live stream.

What the...

Dori. I used to think that lowering the weight is only 50% of maintaining your diet and 50% of exercising. It turns out I was wrong, Dori. Maintaining your diet is only 20%. Exercising is only 20%.

60% is your intention and sincerity to do this 40%

okay?

That's right. It means you have to have this 60% You have to have the why How? That's not important sometimes How? That's not important sometimes

But why? Why do you want to do it? That's much more important I used to be the same My weight was 100 kg, do you believe me? I was 100 kg, now I'm 70 kg, I'm 30 kg less

Where's the photo?

I'll show you Back then, 100 kg, because of what? I met a patient, a heart attack in front of my eyes, the same age as me, under 30 Same date of birth, August 31st, glasses in front of my eyes, heart attack in front of me. Luckily, I could save him using the device.

I immediately thought, what will happen to me next? I was immediately shocked. I thought, I can't do this, there must be a change. Only then I finally had the why. Now, about the why. Are there still parents?

Yes.

Now, if I'm writing a novel, there are words that replace the word. For example, a wife who lost her husband, I call her a wife.

Correct.

A husband who lost his wife, I call him a widow. A child who lost his father, I call him an orphan. A child who lost his mother, I call him a servant. The child who lost his father is called Yatim. The child who lost his mother is called Piatu.

But I'm sure you don't know. There is one word that has no replacement.

What is it?

The parent who lost their child.

Oh my god.

What is it?

This is a very interesting word.

What is it?

There is no such word. Why is there no such word? Because it's so much losing a child that there's not a single word that can describe that pain. I don't want your parents to be like that. I don't want your parents to lose Dory.

Okay? Are you up for it?

I'm up for it.

Can you do it?

Can you do 60%?

I can.

Deal!

Okay, next challenge! You can do it? Yes. 60%? Yes. Deal.

Okay, next challenge.

Do you prefer my education or his? Be honest.

I'm confused.

It's okay. It has nothing to do with V. Character-wise, are you happier to meet him or her if it's real life?

It's necessary

Coincidentally, I changed my sport You started exercising because of your girlfriend?

Because of my girlfriend

Because he speaks so sharply

Sharp

Sharp

He's so sharp

But your dad must be happy like him

Yes

Because he's more polite Right, coincidentally he's in the hospital right now But your dad must be happy like him Yes

Because he's more polite

Right, I was at the hospital and he was like,

What's wrong?

I'm just jealous

Oh, I see

Now, the most honest

Here

This is him

So, Doc

Thank you, Mas Dory

Applause Applause for your dad So, it turns out that he is a sharp person. Now, there's more. This is my team that is the most stubborn. They have worked together for 10 years,

since 2011.

That's it.

They smoke a lot. He is a videographer, he listens to health education. He should be... There are many Narsung specialists that I invited. He should be in the brain. I don't know, there are a lot of Narsum specialists I invited.

So, they should be in the brain. I don't know if there's a brain or not. Because they never go in. This person smokes, eats a lot, even though he hears it in front of a specialist, but it's like going in left and out right.

I guess he's mentally retarded.

Oh, I see.

He's mentally retarded. This is a real bandit. I think this bandit patient deserves to be fired. If Dr. Gia... goes to a place like this, how can Dr. Gia educate?

This is like... It's okay, Doc.

Come on.

What Dory said was... soft spoken but sharp. The last sentence... was at least hit the tuber. Okay, let's welcome... Daniel Nimrod.

The next patient.

Please, come in.

Daniel.

Sit here. Tell us how old you are. How old are you? Doc, what year were you born? 1984. Doc. 1984? Let me see, Doc. Which human was the most scary?

1974.

1984, Doc.

1984, right? 1984. What was the most scary human? A doctor. Is that so?

I was afraid of being exposed to the cold.

He never checked up. He didn't want to check up. Oh, I see. He was afraid of being exposed to the cold He never checks up He doesn't want to check up He's afraid of being exposed to the cold

I understand

Tell us about your experience

Tell us

From junior high? From junior high Because editing is confusing

I'm sleepy, need to focus The stress level is high, need to be lowered Very much, so smoking is very loyal Okay, okay. So what if I say, you've been deceived by smoking all this time Let me tell you, if you're stressed, your breath changes to short and fast Agree

Right? I agree. Then, how to relax and reduce stress? Take a deep breath and long. Don't think that you've been cheated by the smoke. You think you're relaxed because of the smoke, but it's actually because of your breathing pattern. Try it.

Here.

Hold it. because of the change in your breathing pattern try it hold it from deep and long so you can relax don't do it because of your breathing pattern not because of your smoking actually, I can do it without smoking

then you don't have to burn the Then you don't have to burn the cigarette

You don't have to burn it

Oh, I see

Hold it

Let it go Relax

You've been fooled by smoking all this time

Seriously?

Yes

I don't have to burn it?

Just try it You relax

I've never done it

Just try it So, you've been doing waste for over a decade Do you want to continue? No, right? And then, do you think we have one or two chances in this life? Just one

Just one, right?

No more? No more Right, no more No more? No more

No more?

No, I can't die I'll die, I'll die

Have you ever met someone who died again? Never, Doc So, just once, are you sure? If it's just once, what if we agree to live at least 80 years?

Yes

Don't just live until 50 Deal? One of the things that brings you closer or keeps you away from your chance to live for 80 years is smoking and obesity. I have to be honest with you.

Yes, Doc.

I've never found a patient who is over 80 years old who is fat.

Oh yeah?

Always skinny, always skinny.

Over 80?

I've never found a fat person over 80.

Who is still alive?

Yes

So, we just have to reduce the weight Especially fat percentage Yes And the smoking 60% earlier, right? Yes

Deal?

Deal

Deal

Deal, Doc

Deal

I'm the one who educated the customer He's the one who educated the customer. The doctor who educated me, he's silent. If I'm the one who educated him, he'll be like, shut up, doctor.

It's safe.

The doctor who talked, he's like, okay, sure.

Oh, this is the last one. What's the last one? The last one is a patient of an elderly person.

An elderly person?

An elderly person, 50 years old.

But he helped me, The last patient was an elderly person. An elderly person? An elderly person, 50 years old. But he helped me. He was a good person. His name was Pak Denny. Pak Denny. He was a Javanese, but he grew up in Medan. A Javanese, but grew up in Medan.

Every time I was educated, the answer was always like this, Pak Tirta hasn't reached my age. It's confusing, right? This is Dr. Gia. This is a problem. I asked him. It turns out that there are two challenges.

The soft spoken is not broken. Now, this is the last stage. So, the old man, every time he is advised, he says, Dr. Gia, or Dr. Lapang Tirta, or Mr. Bos.

Mr. Bos is not yet...

Not yet. He is at the age of 25. I was like, what are you talking about? You're not old enough to be a fifth-generation doctor. If you're my age, you should try it.

Yeah.

And secondly,

if I'm asked to do a check-up, I don't want to. I don't want to. I even had to do a full blood test. I always lied.

I'm like this, I still run 5 kilowatts.

The blood donor is still safe.

Why do a check-up? It's because going to the doctor makes me sick.

Insecure.

I never went to the doctor. I was on an anti-medicine. I had a fever yesterday.

Anti-medicine.

I was given paracetamol.

No.

For me, the fever is...

White water. White water and I ran. You ran? He ran, he ran with fever. That's him. The third one.

I gave him food education. He was obese. So, overweight.

Central obesity.

Central. He always said,

life is old.

Life is old?

Life is old.

Life is old. The food is good, don't skip it. Why eat good food, but Why do you eat good food slowly? You eat everything. You'll get fat. And if you're advised, you'll be on fire.

Every time you eat a little salty food, you'll have high blood pressure.

You'll be angry.

How to please this person? I call him, the respected Mr. Denny. No, no, no, don't. This is him, Mokgol. Tell us.

Mr. Denny. Sit, sit, sit. This is the first time he met a doctor.

That's it.

Just assume he's not a doctor.

Oh, yes.

Put it on.

Mokgol, tell us how old you are.

Mr. Denny is married, right?

He's married. You're married?

You have a child? How old are you now? 20. Wow, you're 20 years old. So, you're 50 years old, and your child is 20 years old. So, what the doctor told us,

we can understand it now. But, it's true, our doctor is not 50 yet. But, you're not 50 yet. But Mr. Denny is not 70 yet. Right? None of us have touched 70 yet.

Well, I, Mr. Denny, have met two graves at the hospital. The right grave, the grave of a 70-year-old man, with a healthy body, strong genitals,

sharp mind, and another 70 years old grave,

can't do anything.

High blood pressure, high blood sugar, the wound on his leg is not healed, the skin is like that. I want, this is the right grave, a 70 years old grave but healthy.

Yes, amen. I see the difference, what they do Padeni is the right-handed, 70-year-old but healthy. I see the difference, what they do can achieve that. One of them is routine check, because we never know, there's no writing on our forehead, Tenshi or Gula, nothing. They have to know,

by doing routine check, they know if they turn a little, they can fix it. Yesterday, Mr. Denny said that no one wants to go to the moon. Artemis 2, right?

Yes, yes.

But now, Mr. Denny is about to go to the moon. His goal is to be healthy for 70 years, to have a grandchild. Even, if possible, Mr. Denny's grandchild,

who graduated from college, he came to his university

but suddenly he got 1 degree gosh, even though it's only 1 degree

it's there even though that's the goal the goal of the routine checkup that once a year, medical checkup so if it's a little bit crooked, it can be straightened if it's a little bit crooked, it can be straightened if it's a little bit crooked, it can be straightened finally, it's there

oh, yes

is it good?

yes, yes, yes

so, it's true that you can do what you're doing now but if the result of the examination needs a little correction so that the goal is reached let's correct it together. Can you do that? I want to cancel it. Me too. Because the hope is that

when you reach 70, you'll have a grandchild. You can even get married with a grandchild. Isn't that exciting?

I don't want to cancel it.

I want to cancel it. I don't want to cancel it.

It's true that in Indonesia, it's sad, why does the CKG program, the free health check, appear? Because there's a survey of Indonesia's health in 2023. Indonesian citizens

who sincerely check their routine every year, only get 7% of the result.

So, this is part of the 93%?

Yes, 93%. Until the government gives them free health check every year it's okay to use it, because it's free just the time and place

to visit the nearest fast-food restaurant

okay, Doc

okay, done

thank you, Doc I'm the one who's talking

if I'm the one who's talking he won't do it. He'll just eat this. He eats a lot.

Doc, why? Sometimes, I talk to Dr. Tir, this topic is really good. I call it, What if?

That's it. I want to ask.

What if Indonesia is healthy, Indonesia is gold, and by 2045, free from infectious diseases, plague, etc.

Right.

Free from degenerative diseases, chronic diseases, all the numbers go down. That's really it. The problem is the current condition. We have to be honest.

Let's discuss Indonesia's health problems. From the point of financing. We have monthly BPJJS, right? We pay, pay, pay, pay. We pay one more brother, not just us. We pay one brother.

We are a role model to BPJS. I'm a doctor. I wash the patient's blood every day. Do you know how much BPJSS spent on one of my patients? It's about 1 million rupiahs, so it's easy to remember. 1 million.

He has to go out twice a week. That means he has to go out twice a month. 8 million a month. The amount of blood washing in Indonesia every day, every two weeks, every two weeks is 200,000 people.

200,000 x 8 million, how many trillion, Doc? Wow, that's a lot.

My goodness.

That's all our money, all our savings. Now, do we want to continue this or what? Are we able to? No. Or do we want to be 500,000 people who wash their blood? Or 1 million people who wash their blood? Are we able to? No.

Or do we want to increase BP interest of BPJS? No, I don't. The money that BPJS gave to the hospital, is it really for us, the doctors?

The money is small for us.

Very, very small. Where is the money? For the owner, not the owner, for the engine maker. The engine maker for the blood washers,

is there a factory in Indonesia? No. The manufacturer washers, are there any made in Indonesia? None. The manufacturers are still good, made in Germany, Japan. So our money, our monthly allowance, trillions, all of it goes there.

How come the money is not getting weaker? The more patients, the more... Heart surgery, heart stent. Are there any made in Indonesia for the stent? None. Our money, all of it goes all abroad. It's sad, right? That's why the what if in my head,

we both collaborate. Indonesia's Yen.

Too good, but you're not.

The doctor is too firm. We need it. If it's about what if, it can happen. But I'm asking, this is good, Pas. About the votive of this doctor, we have to know the barriers.

There are two big ones that I ask. And I'm too lazy to debate with these two people who can prevent votive. First, the smokers always debate like this. Cungkai helps BPJS. How does Dr. Gia, do you solve that? Right.

Do you know how many dividends of BUMN Indonesia that Indonesia received compared to Cukai Rokok? I searched, and I lost. Our BUMN dividends, we collected all BUMN that you know, we collected the dividends,

it's not up to 100 trillion, 90 or 80,

a year.

Cukai Roko, 200 trillion.

Okay.

That's why he feels like he's an Indonesian hero, giving 200 trillion. But I ask again, Sir, do you know how much BPJS got from Cukai Roko? Zero, because BPJS didn't receive it from the cigarette business. It was received from the PBI, which is paid by the government,

BPJS class 3. Right? Then, where did BPJS get it from? From our people who are not paid by the government, but who steal every month. Not from the cigarette business.

Whereas BPJS's big export... ...is for the smugglers. That's a ventilator. Once you use a ventilator, do you know how much? 18 million. Once you use a ventilator. Who's money is that? BPJS's money.

So if you count that, 200 trillion smugglers. Damn, there's no meaning and benefit to health. I also understand, for the proko, I've memorized their beliefs and beliefs. That there's no death because of smoking.

I was just about to ask.

There's no death because of smoking.

They always debate that.

Death is because of diabetes, obesity, heart, and tension. There's no one because of drugs. That's their belief. So, for me, sometimes I understand that there has never been a history of people quitting smoking because they were told by the doctor, by their wife or their child, they have to do it themselves.

And it's hard. If we know that drugs are deceiving, maybe it can help us make a decision. Like, I've been deceived all this time. That's the first thing. Second, do you know, doctor?

One of our employees died yesterday because of waste.

Yes, waste.

At UI. And waste should be used for eradication. Like polio. And there is a violation of vaccine education. But the trend of parents who are starting to be anti-vaccine, it's starting to be a lot. How about the patient?

I'm really asking this. Netizens will definitely be angry. I'm not vaccinated. That's the last question. But how does Dr. Gia, how to educate parents like this?

Because Dr. Gia is patient. I'm a patient with low tolerance. A tissue. If I meet someone like this, there are only two choices, okay, nature selection, Mongolian.

I don't want to finish it. If Dr. Gia,

and he was silent.

I was against it. What if Dr. Gia met an elderly person who asked about the vaccine?

Yes.

What would you do?

I would give a formula. You can take note of this, guys. It's called risk-infection formula. I call it RI. Risk-infection formula is the same as the number of bacteria or viruses in the body's immune system. So how do we reduce the risk of infection?

We reduce the number of viruses or bacteria and increase the immune system. One way to increase the immune system, besides enough nutrition, enough exercise, and enough sleep, is with vaccines. Because the vaccine is actually a virus or bacteria that is weakened, so our body is like a training. I often see kids playing football, futsal, for example.

Which one are you more confident in? Defeating your rival after training, sparring partner or without training? Yes, without training. So you're more confident in defeating the big one, the real one. That's how our body is. Our body, our muscles have been trained in that way.

So, we can memorize. There's a saying, Allah can because of habit. Actually, the word Allah comes from losing. So, the snake can lose if it's used to.

So, how do you get used to it? By getting vaccinated. Get to know the enemy first. So, when you meet the real enemy, you're ready to fight. The real war is ready.

Now, let's try it. When we say sales vaccine, for the mothers, according to all mothers, and fathers too, according to the mothers, which is more profitable for a pediatrician? A patient who is sick or a patient who is not sick?

It's more profitable for the sick patient. If the pediatrician is so stupid, I want to find wealth, not selling vaccines. I'm stopping the vaccines. The pediatrician will become an anti-vaccine people. I don't care.

When the kids get infected, they are all treated.

That's a big income.

The consul visits every day. There are 50 infected kids in 5 days.

How many visits?

In a nutshell, it's much more profitable for the kids to those who are not. But the moral is affected, right? Even though we as doctors have four functions, friends. Not only to treat, but also to rehabilitate, to promote, and to prevent. We have to do all four of them, not just to treat.

So it's wrong to say that vaccine is good for the doctor. And it's good for the parents. They don't think about their children getting infected. Even if they get infected, the effect is not that bad. Then, why did our friend in Java die? The risk of infection was just in the chromosome.

So the number of viral exposure he received was huge. So his immune system was getting weaker. Maybe he was tired. He didn't need enough nutrition or oxygen. That's what he got. Not only the red skin,

but also the dehydration. It was not hard for the whole system. Yes, give him a hand. I can't think of anything else. I can't think of anything else. I, give him a hand. I... I didn't think of that. I didn't think of the way to beat him. If I... didn't have that much patience.

But this is good. If, for example... the patient's lung is still swollen, the doctor still forced him or reversed the choice?

And how to say it, Ib?

Yes. So, if you already know that the vaccine is actually preventive and you still don't want to, if it's infected, I won't object. If you get infected and the temperature is high, don't hesitate to go to the IGD.

Oh, it's still good.

I'll wait at the IGD. But you have to know, I really never want to meet you at the IGD. We meet at events. Or at my book meet and Greet events, my book Don't be in an emergency

It means if you're in an emergency, you're in a state of emergency If I meet my mom in an emergency, it means that my condition is already bad and sometimes the kidney is broken And I always say, I don't want to meet all my friends at the hospital Well, this is a question... I'm complex, so my goal here is consul.

Because he has high patience. If I meet a patient like this, this happened in my circle. I don't want to interact. Masya Allah. So, let's say this.

Ah, these doctors are all know. Yesterday, it was viral on Threads.

I'm the one who smoke, I was the one who smoked. I was drunk.

I could still run fast and still be athletic. How, Dr. Gia, to educate people like that?

Yes.

I remember those words. My grandfather, at the age of 85, was a smoker. Yes. I already know the answer. I said this. Sir, can you mention one more name other than your grandfather

who smoked for 85 years?

He thought,

No, he can't mention a name. Try the one who smoked for 75 years. There's one more, sir.

This one.

That's it? Only two? Yes, I can mention to you who died because of smoking less than 50 years ago, 100 names now. How many now? That's crazy. I didn't think of that answer.

It's true, Doc. How many now? Many who smoke. Died because of smoking, I can mention. A lot. I have a lot of data. I can mention 100 names who died lot of them. Especially if the doctor is a GED. I have a lot of data. I have a lot of data. I can mention 100 names who died because of smoking.

How many are there now? So, we are survival bias, right?

Yes, survival bias.

So, the 85 years old are considered as a benchmark, the 100 years old are considered as a benchmark. Are you sure it can be like them? No, right? I'm not sure if I can be like them. I'm not sure if I can be seen. What about young people who feel athletic and healthy

even though they smoke and get drunk?

How do we educate them?

That's why we need to keep monitoring them. The effect is already there. All the symptoms are there. But it's the same. They already have a belief that there is no death because of smoking. So, if it still doesn't work, but they were already in a state of death because of the drugs. So, in the end, if I still couldn't do it, I prayed.

Prayed, B? How did you pray?

By saying, Robby, open your eyes and heart. Open your heart. Oh God. I don't have the energy. This is my question. Why does Dr. G have so much energy? Here's the thing. Why do I go all out? Because every day, if I meet a patient,

if it's just 1 or 2 patients, it's okay. I met a patient like that, in the bus, there were hundreds of them. If it's too good, I was like, I'm done. You can go home.

Why does Dr.Gia, after 10 years of practice, have so much energy? There must be a trigger. Yes. The first trigger that makes Dr. Gil have energy is the mentor in Harry Potter. I expected the patronymic to be huge.

My patronymic is Garuda. I'm like, if I educate one or two people, for example, there are six people here, I educate these six people, the seventh person, my energy is like a mentor, it's all gone.. I educate these 6 people, my 7th person's energy is like a dodementor.

It's gone.

I see.

The happiness is gone. Gone. It's like, fuck, I meet people like this again. Finally, the 8th person is unlucky. Really.

When I see Dr. Gia, I met Dory, smooth. I met Daniel, he was smooth. When I met Mr. Denning, he was smooth. I gave him a patient example, he was still smooth. What's the basis, Dr. Gia? How can you be so smooth for the first time?

It's impossible to be smooth since you were a student.

Your friends said, nothing has changed since I was in high school.

I'm still the same. How can you be so energetic?

How can you? You're not one, you're two hundred. It's real. It's tens. Every day is tens. I once said this in Bang Radit. I said, it sounds weird, but I love humans. It sounds weird. I love humans. Because for me,

every human is a miracle. So I'm facing a miracle. He can be on this earth because of a miracle. How can I not care, not love, maybe my love level or my love can be different. I clearly love MU more than Liverpool.

But... Okay, okay, I'm patient. This love with MU than Liverpool. But...

Okay, I'm patient. I'm patient because... because Jelena is good. My community is expert in this.

But I hate Liverpool? That's impossible. Same with Arsenal. I even have a theory about Arsenal fans. We don't need to debate.

We just wait.

I don't dare to debate. We just wait. I don't dare to talk.

If you're facing the Arsenal fans, you don't need to debate. Just wait. You'll be defeated.

Two are gone.

Does Dr. Ghea believe that Indonesia's health system will be as neat as Finland or Singapore? Yes. Well, that might need the help of all parties, all the shareholders. Including us two. We are still part of that. We must have our own contribution to Indonesia's health.

If we want to continue with curative only, it will be a mess. We are poor, we will not be able to afford it. But if we can focus on the promotives and preventives, we have a chance for Indonesia to be healthy, Indonesia to be gold. If according to Dr. Gia, it means that what can make Indonesia proud is not only about the economy, but also about the health burden.

Yes, health is the biggest asset that Indonesia has now. If it's not there, then what? I can't work. Let's see, why am I focused? My mission is to... I repeat it many times,

I repeat it with Mr. Radit too. My mission doesn't change. Whether I'm known by a million people, or by two million people, my life's mission doesn't change. That is to prevent one million Indonesians

from getting heart attacks and strokes. Wow. That's it. Applause. If we're asked, what curriculum, what health program should be in the curriculum of high school or high school? Yes, biology should be taught in a beautiful way in school,

so that the society, especially young people, become in love with their own bodies. Now, what you see is just the skin. You can't see the inside. But if you look inside, this is the heart, this is the lungs,

where they all work hard for us to live. Do you want to love them? Try Leukosis, white blood. Do you want to help as the owner of white blood? They fight every day against bacteria, viruses, and fungi around us. We don't want to defend them, we don't want to be their team.

Of course, we have to help.

How do we help Leukocyte? With enough nutrients, enough insulin, it helps. Okay, if it's about basic life support, like the RGP, according to the doctor, when should it be? After biology comes in, understand the contents of the human body, then everything... Maybe we should discuss with the ministry.

Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, that this is the curriculum of elementary and high school. About basic life support. How to deal with patients who don't know why suddenly faint or just don't realize it when they are examined later there is no

what do you want to do? yes that's why it's really sad in Indonesia, friends it's funny, everything is wrong, whatever happens, everything is wrong with the wind, whatever happens, everything is wrong with the wind. Headache, the patient comes, what do you say? I'm in the wind. Vomiting, what do you say? I'm in the wind. Tickling is the same, I'm in the wind.

So I'm at the hospital as a wind blower. I want to defend, not the wrong wind, sir, ma'am. The wrong one is bacteria, virus, or heart attack. So, please allow me to help you, not to make you feel better, but to cure you. Okay, now, before we close, the plot twist. A message for people who want to be a doctor.

Yesterday, from the threads, if you follow Dr. Gia, many of our friends started to thread or tweet that, is it worth it to be a doctor? Is it worth it? Yes, and is it valuable? For those of you who want to be a doctor,

do you think Dr. Gia is still worth it?

Answer it directly to Dr. Gia.

I can imagine, for example, children like us, when we were in high school, maybe we were treated with a fairly high IQ, but we knew that in the future We are only paid

My patient is 85% BPJS 50% of the general population 85% of my patients are BPJS When I found out that BPJS only pays that much for the knowledge I have done for decades But only paid that much. We go back to high school, we were awarded with a pretty good IQ.

Do you want that? Do you? Even though, to be a doctor, you need an extraordinary dedication. The desire to learn, to keep smiling, to keep cheering up. And we can do it. But when we get paid, it's a joke. I'm worried, I'm not affected because I'm already a doctor, I still write, I still do ablution,

I'm given whatever, I suddenly get a fortune from somewhere else, from a book royalty, so it's really big and all kinds of things. But the kids later, when we're old, we're 70, the smart kids in high school now, they don't want to do anything, they don't want to be a doctor.

Oh no, I want to be a doctor.

The salary is low.

The salary is low. How about our fate when we're old later?

No one will take care of us.

Who? Who's going to take care of it? Panti Jompo. So, in Panti Jompo, it's not the skilled... It's not the doctor. It's the caregiver. But as a doctor, no one wants to do it. And that's our priority.

So, we have to be at least... quite healthy, so we can inspire the next generation of young people to see that doctors doctor as worth it, to still be worthy of being a doctor.

That's it.

Great!

Have you ever been offered a job at Kemenkes? For example, at HUMAS. Have you ever? If asked. This year, God willing, from the Indonesian Medical Association,

Oh, the Indonesian Medical Association.

I'll be the HUMAS.

Wow!

But if in the Indonesian Department of Education. I'm in the Humas Department. Wow! But if in the future, have you ever seen Dr. Gia in the future, in the Humas Department of Education? Yes, maybe all this time I've been working with the Humas Department of Education. What the Humas Department of Education needs, if I can help, I will help. About the event, about what, about posting, what is the focus, education. I also follow Mr. Menkes. Later on the 13th, I also met him, Mr. Gudi. Yes, and I think in my personal opinion, Dr. Gia's energy is enough and like,

if I'm fast, I'm tired, I'm tired of the pressure, so I'm more often like, if I'm 50 or 60 years old, I'm like that, I'm mentored, I'm sucked in. I understand, I understand. If you have 50 or 60 percent, you are already a mentor. If you are a daughter, you are like a non-stop energy. So I think, if you are at the highest level, why don't you take the S2 EKM? Inshallah. I have a very good quote for you guys to take note of.

Pressure is privilege.

Why?

Pressure is privilege. Not everyone gets that pressure. If we get it, it means we have one that our capacity and capability is enough for that. Okay, this is good.

Pressure is privilege.

Cool. Let's give him a round of applause. This is cool.

This is the first time I'm on a podcast and I'm always quiet. Indeed, the ability to educate is not recognized above the average level of people. This is the first time I've been silent on a podcast. I admit that my education skills are above average.

I'm a very humble person.

But what do you need a doctor like Dr. Tirta for? For a healthy society, and even healthier society, who is used to running, and wants to run a marathon. Who is used to a certain pace, and has a good pace.

That's what Dr. Tirta needs. And I have to meet Gen Z, Alpha Ngaia. So, he doesn't run out of energy when he meets you.

That's right.

That's right.

I'm the part that is lazy, who doesn't want to move, so I move a little bit. From not wanting to exercise, to want to play.

That's my part.

If I meet someone, I'll teach him.

So, I don't don't waste his time. Why are you like this?

Fuck!

That's it.

That's all from me. Try to share in the comments section. So, later I... Because his house is near my name. If we meet in Jakarta. We can meet anytime.

The practice place is also safe.

Manasik is also in Jogja.

Oh yeah? Oh yeah, right. And for you guys, please share in the comment section below to discuss about the health topic between us.

I'm Tirta. Dr. Gia.

See you in the next content. See you in the next content.

Bye.