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Divo, what do you want to do with your father but you can't because of religious differences? Maybe like when I'm going to a Friday school, I'll sit next to my father. My father will listen to the sermon, I'll go to bed, and then I'll wake up.

Aura and Divo also graduated from elementary school, Alisa also.

Does Mr. Danil know there's a Christian school? I'm afraid he doesn't know. Masya Allah, Masya Allah, Tabarakallah. Today we have a guest. Who is it?

This is Mr. Danil. Mr. Danil? Where is he? No, no.

It's clear.

Oh, no.

And his brother, Difu. Difu. Difu. and.. no, no, no and..

Divo's younger brother Divo

so, he, Mr. Daniel often visit my FB page and the source is

tiktok so, he visit my FB page

and then I react to his post without knowing Mr. Daniel without knowing his, without knowing your account, I just reacted to it, Mr. Danil. Someone texted me, I saw that Hadith Hussein Jafar made my content, I didn't expect that. I can feel his warmth. Because he's a Christian.

He's still a Christian until now. He's still a Christian. He even mentioned it on his shirt. Don't mention it.

I'm a Christian. Okay, now.

No. I mean This is the answer

This is the answer You can call me that

I think in Jogja There's a guy who wears a shirt Don't call me that I made the version The Christian version Don't call me that

That's the result of the National University of But, if you want to call me a kafir,

Oh, if you want to call me a kafir,

Non-Muslim, right? Oh, non-Muslim. Even I educate, if we know the religion, call people according to their religion. If you're a Christian. This is if the NU argument is two.

First, because in the kafir is actually not a negative connotation.

True, it's not negative.

The connotation is different, but often the connotation is negative.

True.

So then, to protect our ethics to those who are different from us, call them non-Muslims if you don't know who they are. Well, can I call them Ahlul Kitab? It's okay

Ohai Ahlul Kitab

That's right I also call him Nengok

Don't laugh, sir

I swear, this is serious Don't laugh Don't laugh, sir We here forbid you to laugh that is not good Because it's not good Especially other religions

You'll be more confident I'm confident

but I'm laughed at by all religions

so when he brought his son

this is his son? yes he looks like him

yes, his face looks like him

but his appearance

I've started to follow him too

a little bit.

It's okay. It's his legacy. A legacy that he's been growing. So, he's a follower.

Yes, he's not only a Muslim, but a follower.

How many children do you have?

Three.

The first one is a girl. Her name is Aura Diva. She's been in high school for 6 years. 6 years in high school.

6 years in high school.

The second one is Divo. She has been in the same high school as Yesen. She has been in high school for 6 years. 6 years in high school. The third one? She has been in high school for 3 years.

The third one is a girl, her name is Aira, she's in 4th grade at SD Al-Irshad, Surabaya. SD Al-Irshad?

Wow, that's a long name.

At the Perak area.

Yeah, usually in Perak.

And her brothers, Aura and Tifu, also graduated from SD Al-Irshad,

Surabaya Does Mr. Daniel know that there is a Christian school? I'm afraid he doesn't know I'm afraid We ask first He's Muslim

I mean, ask first, is his religion Islam?

Do I need to show my ID? My religion?

Oh, no, no

No, no

Can I hold it like this? oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no His aura is like a Muslim His face is like a Ustad His face is like the owner of Travel and Umroh Oh yeah And his face is like... Some people said Takmir Masjid Some said Marbut I'm confused

He looks like Ojan's father Ojan? He's so handsome

His representation is so handsome Look at the photo of Ojan I'm so sorry. You're so lame. You're so lame.

You're so lame.

I'll tell you the story first. How come Mr. Kristen's son is not only a Muslim, but also a Muslim.

So, my wife and I are different.

Different gender, right? What's the difference? we asked different beliefs I believe in my wife, she doesn't

believe in me both are the same

they're the same

the difference is between Qiyan and Pep it's okay, because the joke reference is the same

honestly, you're a jerk because you can't stand it at home, right?

It's okay if it's different, but don't be like that in comedy

Where's my jerk?

My wife is Muslim

Oh, Muslim

Whatever it is, maybe there is a wrong view, but it is like that. So, the wife is Muslim, Mr. Daniel is Christian. And I followed my wife's process from the beginning. At first, she didn't wear hijab, then she wore hijab, and now she wears a wear hijab, but I did wear it. And now I wear it more often.

We don't want to judge you by the law, because this is a spiritual journey. A process that we don't know how to handle. I still going on. It's been 18 years.

This year is 19 years.

So the history is that your wife is a Muslim.

Yes, she is Muslim. And then we got married. I had my first child, Aura Diva, in 2008. I got married in 2007, or the year after that, I had my first child. And from the beginning, it was...

What do you call it? There was an agreement? No, not an agreement. My wife asked me to join my religion. I agreed to it without any hesitation. I'm not afraid of my wife.

I'm usually like this.

You're always like this. I was going to be sad, but it didn't happen. I thought you were going to so sad. I was so sad. I thought you were sad.

I was.

You were sad too, right?

So spoken.

In 2011, I was born in Ipoh. I was asked to be born there. I was asked to be born there. Since I was born, I was taught

by my aunt. Maybe and from birth, my father taught me to pray.

And maybe, no matter how much his mother or father asked, if his child didn't choose, he wouldn't be able to do it either, right? In the end, it's the choice of his child, right? Yes, and I also support it when the children, starting from TK, went to, they were already in Islam. At that time, they were in Citragoesumah, near my house.

But you asked for his wife, right?

His children couldn't choose at that time. Yes, at that time. No, not until now.

Why did Pak Danil give up at that time? Was it because he was not sure about his own religion? I thought it was a coincidence. Okay, two, I'm not sure if it's because of my religion or something. I thought it was just a coincidence. I thought it was just a coincidence. Why did I choose to be a Muslim?

I have a question for you all. You all will be answered later. When your wife asked you first, you said yes, it's okay. When your wife asked you,

you said you wanted to move?

Oh, yes, if...

You were given a child, when your wife asked you to move. That's what I'm still a bit... Doubtful? No, because... I don't... In my content, in TikTok,

me and Instagram, there's never a word that says, it's impossible. There is no word that says, it's impossible. But I always write, it's not possible yet. Because we don't know what will happen tomorrow, the week ahead, whatever it is.

Because, well, that's it.

I just follow my fate. But you were sure about your children? Yes. That's why since I was in primary school,, I was in the SMP. At first, I didn't believe it because I prepared my first child to go to a national school. I used the path of sports performance and art. Because in elementary school, my first child produced three children's albums. One of them is a children's religion album.

In Aura Diva Official, there is still a video clip.

Is it a religion?

Yes. So, the writing is clear. Don't call me a kafir. Because according to the scholars, if someone says, it's not possible,

it means he is not a kafir. Because kafir means, in substance, legally, he is not a non-Muslim, but in substance, he is a person who covers himself. So, he is a non-Muslim, but in substance, he is a person who covers himself.

So, a person who does not cover himself from the truth that may be out there, and maybe it will happen to us in the future, then he is called Ahlul Fathr, a person who is loyal to his own purity. Even the scholars said, if in the end he does not become a Muslim because he was still on the road, and he passed away, he would be safe in the afterlife. So, he is not an infidel.

Why did you pinch him?

I didn't pinch him. There is hope. I thought it was safe. There is still hope. People are happy, but they're bothered.

No one bothers them.

It's like in the movie Jin Dan Jun. They like to bother their family. But have you ever asked yourself, why are my parents different?

I've asked it many times.

Did you ask your father directly or in person?

Ask your parents directly.

I've asked them before. And the answer is...

This morning, when I took the train from Surabaya to Jakarta...

You still asked? No, when I talked to Divo, later when we arrived in Jakarta, we went to Tugum Onas, because we had never been to Jakarta. They said that if we went to Jakarta,

it would be not up to date if we hadn't taken a photo with Tugum Onas. From Tugum Onas, we went to Jalan Kaki,

to Istiqlal mosque on foot. My father would take me there on Friday. We were shooting on Friday. He asked my father, too, on Friday.

That's a hope. He pushed us.

You're an agent.

You're a lover. No, I mean...

The youngest, Ustaz. Habib, the youngest. He was 10 years old. A girl. He was the most critical to me. How was that?

Oh, I was invited to a religious debate. I was invited to a religious debate.

I was invited to a religious debate with the youngest.

That's good.

What was the example? The one that was surrounded by Daniel. I didn't expect it. A 10-year-old girl could ask, why does God have three sons? Oh, Trinity? Yes, why is there three gods? Oh, you mean the trinity?

Yes, why is there a god? I was surprised when he asked that question. I didn't expect that.

How did you explain it?

He didn't say anything.

No, no.

I just answered what I knew. But, I'm sorry, Mr. Danil.

No.

Until now, are you a good Christian or not? Do you still go to church? I still go to church every week. I was even entrusted last year to be the head of an organization called the Association of Christian Surabaya. Wow, you were pulled there.

You were given a position.

Don't go anywhere. This is your position.

No, I was the head.

You were given a position.

At first, I was the head. Because the previous head was sick, I was the head of the hospital. But because the previous head was sick, I was trusted to... At first, I refused to be the head. But because I was given security, I couldn't refuse.

Oh, because you were sick? Yes. Did you get a letter from the doctor?

I think I did.

You like to spy, don't you? No, Divo didn't given his answer yet. I mean, when you asked him, you asked him seriously. Why did you choose this path?

Have you ever asked him seriously?

I have.

And what was your answer?

The answer was...

Wait, I forgot. I think, in general, you mean to explain your faith? Yes, I explain it in a way that my father can make me understand.

Because I was still young.

Do you still ask now?

Now, I do.

Why are you different?

Why are you so different? Why are you so quiet? Why are you shaking your hands?

It's okay, we're all friends now.

It's okay, we're all friends now. Do your friends know? Do your friends know? Do your friends know?

Do they know that your parents are different? They finally know. Last Saturday, I was invited by Divo's parents for a podcast. Oh. I appreciate Divo's Pondok for his diversity.

Do you have any friends who joke about the difference?

No, we don't.

Oh.

I'm sorry.

No, we don't.

Congratulations. Congratulations, P, congratulations. Congratulations.

Congratulations.

How was it? Was it comfortable?

Ustaz, you're the one who's like,

what kind of company is this?

I was like this.

I want to ask you something

that might be a bit sensitive and Divo has the right to not answer if it's not comfortable. Because in my opinion, this is something complicated. There is a feeling that is the most sensitive about a very complicated religion.

I once heard a story about a child who was taught by his mother to read Surat Al-Ikhlas so that she can have a house in heaven. Then, with a simple request, I said, But you don't have to read it. Because I hope that in heaven, you will live in my house with me.

Because I love you. I want to live with you, not only in the world, but in the hereafter, in heaven, even in the same house. All children want that. I want to be with his parents forever and wherever. Well, Divo, do you have that feeling? Do you have that feeling, Divo? Like, I want to be with you forever.

Ancestor.

Eh, Habib.

Is it right?

If this is Habib, this is not an ancestor.

This is a man.

I want to cry, but I can't.

He's been crying since earlier.

He just came and he's crying.

So, how did you get over that awkward feeling, Nivo?

Well, because... I think that this kind of conversation is like... I think it's hard. So I decided to pray. I prayed to God that I would be given the best.

That's great. But, because prayer is the word of a believer, the weapon is the believer, not diplomacy, not anything. And also, the most interesting thing, for someone at the age for someone like Daniel,

46 years old,

46 years old, he's Valentino Rossi, bro.

Bro, you can do it.

I'm from Pahunjelm, I'm a bro now.

I'm even a father now.

Because I also, every time I pray, I never ask for a prayer in my prayer to my God. I never ask for my children or wife to believe in me. I always pray for them to be the best.

And the reason is, I think for the age of Daniel, 46, it seems like, even though we will never give up in our prayers, because it is our duty,

and not forced, but it seems like the more powerful than inviting, it's better to pray rather than advising or preaching to change, it's better to pray because in the end, guidance is in the hands of God.

And the prayer can come from places that are not expected, maybe from simple things. That's why I write

I can't do it in every content

have you ever prayed for your father to be a Muslim?

I mean every time I prostrate I usually pray I hope God gives the best to my parents

I'm jealous

angry sad I'm sorry for my parents I'm sorry You're the anchor here

No, I'm sad

I'm touched

It's hard

You can't be an industry, bro You can't be a down-do

No, I'm the anchor

I'm not here

I'm sorry

I want to ask Divo Can I answer this again or not? Divo, in Islam, you have learned and you know that in the end, the path is different. There is heaven and hell. And people who believe in Islam are in heaven. Those who don't believe follow Islam in heaven those who are not believers, not in heaven

right? when you hear the explanation about that do you think of your father directly?

I think of my father directly but I just pray for the best

I hope he can join me I hope you can join together

yes Mondok but not Mondok, I mean Bunda I hope you can join me. I hope we can join together.

Mondok.

Not Mondok, I mean Pindah.

It's hard to explain.

Pindah, Mondok.

Can we change the name in Islam? But, Mr. Daniel, maybe you can have peace now. But, how about the community? No, no. Do you let your children...

No, they...

They're attracted, they're attracted.

I'm suspicious.

What? I respect my privacy too. I never ask.

This is a more serious question than when to get married, when to have children, when to log in. It's really hard if you keep children, when to lock in. It's so hard to answer that question. It's stressful. What about your holidays? How is it like at home? I go around to visit my relatives.

My wife is Muslim.

Do they have any questions from your wife's family?

No, never. My family also... My mother was Muslim. Her family was Muslim. But because my mother lived in a village in Nganjuk, East Java, when she was in high school,

she went to Catholic high school. Finally, she became a Catholic. Now I'm a Christian, and I even attend church. So your family is a strong Christian.

At my house, it's been 15 years,

I've been using the church, without renting or paying anything. At home? Yes, at home. or payment Without permission? At home? Yes, permission

Where was your home?

At my house

You can't worship at home

What? Who knows he's been quiet since he was free? No, I mean, I'm using my house as a church. For the church.

And it's not a church at all. Not an administrative church, but I mean like we do, like a church service, or a service at home. Well, it's my first time meeting a case like this. Because usually, as short as I remember, if I meet a case like this in a family, it's usually between the two, the person is secular, doesn't consider religion as something important,

or one of them considers religion as not something important, so they can be at peace. But if this is equally strong, but the tolerance can grow well. I even support my two children to be Ustaz and Ustazah. I even have a wish after graduating from high school, why not continue my high school in the same building. After graduating from high school, I have a plan to study in Al-Azhar, Cairo, Egypt. And I support it.

And I also support being an Ustaz I support him

if you have any question this is as a OCR and when he become an Ustaz later, his father will come here in the middle of the congregation

to listen to his study

from the mosque to the mosque

so you are not going?

it's okay

he is very responsible he often attend his study I'm sorry, I'm not following you. It's okay. Why? He's always following the research. I often watch his videos. You're studying at Hidayat, right?

Who's your research partner? At the beginning of last year, I was the first one to follow Ustaz Hanan Ataki's research. Hanan Ataki, and then? The first Ulama I knew

was Ustaz Hanan Attaqi. Then Ustad Hilman Fauzi, Ustad Adhideh too. And then the young one, Ustad Qudainis.

Qudainis Lihl.

I also met him.

Wow, that's a lot.

Ustad Irfan.

That's the process I've been through until now.

Maybe, the thing that makes me curious is that there are many issues about Pondok Pesantren.

As an educational institution, there are many issues that people who don't understand the culture of the peasantry will consider as feudalism and so on. Are you worried about that issue? No, I actually support my son when he graduates from high school and continues to high school in the same thing. Because in my opinion, the best place for children to grow up, socialize, and deepen their faith, is in the Pesantren hill.

That's how it is.

And what are the facts? The facts are that the change is extraordinary. Although I was never called a B.P. by the school, starting from elementary school. Never. Even now, he's getting better.

He's getting more comfortable. Like that. So, the assumption that the place is not good, there are cases like that, I'm not afraid.

I even encourage my son to continue.

Because you know the fact, right?

Yes.

His six-year-old son is in the military. That's just a guess.

But it's not a problem, right?

But this is a question, actually. What is the concept of guidance in Islam? I mean, this is a unique thing, right? If we are, this is a unique thing. If we look at it from the perspective of Islam, it's like, yes, it's true that Hidayah is in the hands of Allah.

Because even in this situation, it doesn't automatically make people move, unless Hidayah comes. What is Islam's response to Hidayah?

First, I was once told as a senior preacher if later Divo preach I will be a preacher preach everywhere

preach first, your father for example

that's an example

if someone says that then you answer. I once asked for advice on marriage. When I was not married, you were not married yet. The one who gave advice on death was not dead yet.

And that's it.

Hidayah is a very sensitive person. She is the greatest blessing. Faith and Islam are the greatest blessings. And regarding that, Allah said, Hidayah is a word with a gift. It means, convey the Hidayah as if we are giving a gift to others. Wrapped beautifully.

Then the content is also something beautiful and special. Then given in a polite way. And the main thing is the Da'wah in full. Not with the writing. Not with his own self and from his heart. How Prophet Muhammad became the pillar that shows Islam in his whole self, which is sourced from his heart, not by words about Islam. Because in the end,

Pak Daniel will see Dhifu not by listening to his words. Even we are taught to learn from a teacher before you listen to his words. Because words can be made.

But you are inspired by his character, his smile, his eyes, his attitude, and everything. Even in the story of Abu Talib, the Prophet's son, who was actually, to put it simply, maybe it was much more difficult at that time, but if you can see, he encouraged his son to study,

because Abu Talib also supported the struggle of Rasulullah in preaching and so on but in the end

the decision is in the hands of Allah

and there is always a story like that there is a story of Prophet Noah whose son did not believe in Prophet Noah there is a story of Pharaoh whose son, Prophet Moses,

became the Prophet who destroyed him there is a story whose wife The Prophet Moses was the one who finished it. There are stories that his wife is not faithful, there are stories that his husband is not faithful, because it's really complex. I can't imagine living in a family with different religions. Because I'm from a different volumeume, it's complicated.

Is that right?

No.

My wife has 16V, and I have 24V AC. Just outside. On the contrary, if you're celebrating Christmas, what do your wife and kids do? They go to their parents' house. Oh went to my parents' house.

Oh, Silaturahmi.

Did you follow the Christmas tradition?

Decorating the tree or something?

It's weird, there weren't any ornaments like Christmas tree or Christmas tree. There weren't any. I even put calligraphy and motivational words about Islam. That's all I have.

He's a minority.

He's a minority in his house. In his house?

No Christmas? No, I don't have any. I just bought calligraphy and put it on. That's all I have. Have you ever been in a complicated situation? In the context of the difference of religion. For example, it eventually became a problem at home. Have you ever?

No, not until now, Pip. Even when I was still in the process of studying, I came to the research and all that. When I knew that my daughter was going to get married, I knew I couldn't be her guardian.

You were so detailed in your religious knowledge.

Yes, that's why it's so surprising. I thought, well, it's a matter of heart.

I didn't know either. When my daughter was about to get married, I suddenly wanted to perform the alaf, I didn't know either. When my child is about to get married, I don't know if I will be able to perform the prayer. But I know the risks. I am a scholar.

And maybe to be fair, we don't know what will happen to the children when they grow up. There are nuances that are not like people are just sent to Islam. Religion is a matter of each person. Even I have a hope that if I have a blessing, I can raise my wife's salary and raise my

three children.

Does that mean you don't eat pork?

What?

Mr. Daniel doesn't eat pork either?

I eat.

Still if you're a man. Huh? Mr. Daniel, do you eat pork? Yes, I do. Oh, you do?

That means you're very careful. You're afraid that your family will touch it at home, right?

I don't know.

I'm just curious.

Hahaha.

I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not.

Oh, you do? You have to eat it at home.

It's tastier.

Yes.

It's tastier than goat meat. We are better Goat soup is better But very rarely Maybe a few times a year When outside the house, right? Yes, and my wife doesn't know

So I know

Why? I just found out

If Divo has ever been here Not at the train station Or at friends outside the train station How are you? Can how do you do it? Can't you just bring your dad to preach? Have you ever received a judge like that?

All this time, for three years, I've never received one. I've received comments like, if my dad is a different religion, I'll just answer as I see fit.

For example, what kind of answer?

Like, I just know what's going on. For example, what's the answer? Like... God's will. God's will. And...

Did you ever feel hurt? Like, your father is a different religion.

As a child, I was with my father. I felt hurt. Maybe a little bit lonely

That's the meaning of the word Silence is a hidden voice Sometimes we hear Divo's explanation It's like complicated, like a report Because it's really complicated and sensitive So it's definitely not easy for Divo it's not easy to

explain what he felt imagine, our father wow, he's different in religion from us I think,

internally, we're different in our own way, to get married we have to fight, right? my friend didn't get married same as Islam, just different same, even the priest

different from the pilpres

that's also a bit harsh bro

how many experiences do you have? there are things in the world that are in the category of worship that are in the category of worship don't have to be associated with worldly things

religion can be tolerated, but if

Politics?

It can't be tolerated

Maybe it's a difference of opinion Not a difference of opinion

Maybe it is

2019 is the worst

Especially if it's different Especially if it's different religion

What if it's Ramadan like this, Pak Daniel? Do you have an introvert at home?

Do you join the tawur?

Do you join the chawr? Yes, I do. I accompany them.

So, you watch YKS?

Yes.

Mr. Daniel? I don't mean to... What? It's okay, Pip. I just want to ask. What is your motivation

and strength that made you become a Muslim I became the motivation and strength of Mr. Daniel, so that all children are Muslim, six years old, three years old, Mr. Daniel insisted that I was here. Mr. Daniel knows all the Islamic laws, which maybe some of us don't know.

Even the teachings follow everything.

Yes, the teachings. I mean, this is a matter of sincerity, faith. Until now, I still continue to learn the science of sincerity. My first class was when my father passed away. Because he was my role model. He was very tolerant, very open-minded. That was my first class.

My second class was when the children were taking care of the certification for the Mu'alaf.

Oh, so they were taking care of it?

Yes, my wife. From the beginning, when Kristen became Muslim, to be able to change, there had a certificate of mu'alaf. My wife is in charge of the mu'alaf institution, one of the mu'alaf institutions in Surabaya. That's my second class.

Like, you're in charge of the children's documents, and it's written as Islam. Yes, that's it. And even now, I still continue to learn the knowledge of the Ikhlas. And my motivation is, for me, all religions teach goodness.

It's just that we as followers, what is it like? Because all religions are good for me. Teaching goodness is a must for sure so what kind of life do we live in this world?

that's how it is

if in the name of religion people are bad then there is something wrong with the understanding of religion of that person the truth may be different but all religions teach goodness Divo, have you ever

as a teenager doing absurd things because Divo, have you ever, as a teenager, done absurd things, because the idea can come from anywhere, to lock in your dad. For example, I have a story,

my friend, I was in the morning, when I was a kid, I liked to ride a motorcycle, an old man's motorcycle, I took it quietly. Well, there was a friend of mine

who knew right away if he wanted to take a motorcycle, I took it quietly. Well, there was one of my friends who always knew if he wanted to take a motorcycle. And finally, to be allowed to ride a motorcycle with his parents, he had a unique way. When his parents were asleep,

he was whispered, poor child, can't ride a motorcycle. Give him permission to ride a motorcycle. When he woke up, suddenly, here, riding a motorcycle. He thought it was a whisper, a dream from... I was on my bike, and when I woke up, I saw him on his bike

I thought it was a dream

I know!

I was so scared, I thought he was lying to you

No, I was sleeping!

I woke up and saw him on his bike I was like, I'm gonna take this

You're gonna get a TV advertisement

He was on his bike

He was asking for a car

He was asking for a car I was lying I didn't mean he was on his bike I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I slept in the center of the Sahadah I drank the water of the Temple I drank the water of the Temple too How did it feel? I was given a wife

How did it feel?

It felt fresh Dipo, have you ever done this? Or what have you done to ask your dad to move? Seriously or not?

Not seriously. Like, Dad, today is Friday. Let's go to the beach on Friday.

Oh, to the beach.

When we fast, wake up early, Dad. You won't be strong if you fast.

Oh.

That's disturbing people's sleep.

People don't want to go to the beach That's disturbing the sleep The Saudi family is disturbing the sleep

If it's serious, have you ever asked for prayers to the Qiyai? Or to the mother Let's pray together, since there's no father Where's the father? You know, right? Have you ever asked for prayers to the Qiyai?

Pray for my father to convert to Islam.

I once prayed to my ustaz, Musrif.

You prayed? Yes, I prayed.

I prayed for my father to be given guidance.

So you've prayed seriously,

and then you joke around so that so that you could get along.

I was in a divo club. I was in a group.

So, this was a joke? It was.

Because he was already in a relationship?

Yes, including the younger one. When I took him to school, I took him to the mall. After school, I usually bring food with me. When I wanted to eat, I would pray first. After I finished praying, I wanted to eat.

My youngest son said, Pa, this is how you pray for food. Allahumma re'ikla al-maw'al. That's how it was taught. So, that's it. It's a bit thin. There's a way for me to...

But, Bip, I want to ask you, Bip.

Islam is correct? No, no, Don't answer yet. I think the question is, is Islam true?

Don't answer yet.

But, I'm sorry, Bip. As young as that, people convert to Islam

just by saying the word shahadah.

Yes.

Islam means... I'm sorry, Bip. Shahadah means witnessing. Witnessing because of observing. What is it? It is observing the truth of Islam. Then he is witnessing from his pure heart to leave the religion.

Before that, he entered the religion of Islam. If in terms of administrative law, it is jurisprudential to say the hadith with a pure heart. But if in terms of spirituality, it is to say, always restart your faith,

develop it, because the faith rises and falls, the pure heart. Oh, like that. If it's Eid,

usually we have a variety of Eids, Muslims have their own traditions. foreign I'm not. You're just bluffing. I'm just trying to adapt. Adapt? I'm being formalized.

When I'm visiting Pondok, I'm using Egamis every month. That's how it is. At first, many people didn't know. But when my videos went viral, many people found out. Especially when he took down the Christi Pondok. My son spread all his videos.

So, now people know that I'm a Christian now. You've been doing researches, right? Yes. You've been learning about Islam from your wife, and from the Ustaz. And maybe you can learn it yourself on social media or other.

What's the most interesting thing in Islam for you? The most interesting thing?

It's really good. This is what is not in my religion.

What is better than his religion?

No need to use the word more. I mean, this is not in my religion. And this is really good.

Right.

Five times prayer. That's cool. Why? Because you can pray 5 times a day, and there are hours for it, and you can do it manually.

That's cool. I often get this answer. In Christianity, we do it once a week. But there are also other types of worship outside of the week. But in Islam, five times a day is cool.

And you can read the Arabic writing. That's cool. I mean, I don't know the dot, comma, but my son knows. So we collect the meaning.

That's cool. That's often. Because, at least what I often get, there are two stories about the five daily prayers. The first one is to control the time. Because with the five daily prayers, we become disciplined.

And the second one is that we are restarted five times a day, spiritually and even physically. In the middle of work, suddenly, let's pray. Yes, right? Work again with a new spirit. And spiritually, it is also restarted.

Because when you pray, a believer is meeting the one he believes in, right? So more. Sometimes, simple things like that. Pras Teguh once told

that he used to, if he was a Udo, Udo, there, no one could reach the neck of a camel But Alvi Alvandi taught me Before you can reach the neck, you have to give it water So it will be fresh, like crystal He tried it and it was really good I mean, I sometimes do that

But I don't think I can teach it to others Because it's too simple but it can be a guidance that people can get from others yes yes and you can do the tahajud prayer

at midnight that's cool what if it's not cool from Christians? no no, it's not allowed

if you ask about good things from Islam it's the bad things from Islam, I would say the bad things about Islam. Why? Because it's Islam. But Islam is perfect, right? It's a coincidence. Islam is perfect, so there's nothing wrong with it.

That's just a matter of theory, right?

If it's possible, it's perfect.

But, Pak Daniel, you might be used to Islam. But what is the purpose of your studies? I don't know. I got interested in it in the beginning of last year. When the pandemic happened, I was introduced to my wife. Ustaz Hanan Ataki said, we can be like lions,

like a tiger, but at home, we can be like a cat. My wife and I made that content. I listened to it and wondered who said that. I checked and it was Ustad Hanan Ataki. I learned from TikTok or Instagram.

He was a good dhikr. He was very gentle. He never offended other religions.

He never hurt other religions. Hidayah is a miracle from a place that is not expected. Sometimes it's a simple thing. So, what inspired Ayanek to get to know Ustaz Hanan Antaqi, not when he read the verse, when he gave this quote, but when he...

Analogical, just husband afraid of wife.

But, is there a cat in the house?

No, no, no, no need to confirm.

What are you doing, Ayanek?

Relatable.

Relatable.

My family's fate.

Your family's fate.

I'm a... I'm one of the coordinators when Ojek Online and Taksi Online were in Surabaya, East Java. I was the leader with my friends in Mobil Komando.

It was so crowded outside. So, I was always out like a lion.

Oh, I see.

But at home, I was a lion.

So, your wife was jealous. When you went out, she was like, you can't do anything at home, you're in a drama.

You're always out. In the house, you're a minority.

I was like,

he's a minority. I heard that there was also minority

Can young line to go out there was a human policy and I can read

because pinya pina into Sophie below

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Jafar's you got no such a

person

Hello, I'm a bit of a biarno and subtle and I'm senior truss say it now. If you were a president, so that we can feel the nuance of tolerance.

If you were a president who... Marsell? I like to listen to his content. And there's a woman president, who was a former Indonesian Miss. Her presentation was good.

But the one who... There was a Gilbert president. I was a former reporter,

tabloid Kristen.

In 2000. Kristen was really strong. It was hard to get a job, but people had a job in the church.

Tabloid Kristen.

I used to sing in church when I was a kid. I sang in a choir, and sometimes I sang in a, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I used to sing in congregation, I because of misunderstanding of their own religion and the religion of others or misunderstanding of their own religion because the Prophet said that Islam is a straight and tolerant religion. That's the hadith of the Prophet.

But with, I want to ask, with my presence as a Christian, if I'm in a religious event, how do I handle it? Do I become a burden to the event?

No, so, don't just go to the mosque, even if you go to Islam, it's okay.

No, no, one by one. It's too hard-selling. No, just ask. It's okay to enter Islam. No, it's too hard-selling.

No, it's okay to ask.

Enter the mosque.

Maybe the first mosque I entered when there was a lecture by Ustaz Hanan Ataki at Al-Akbar Mosque in Surabaya. And I just found out that the Al-Akbar Mosque in Surabaya is beautiful. I joined the official ceremony of the mosque

I was there when the Prophet was in Masjid Al-Aqbar I was there when the Prophet was visiting my son If there was no visit, I was there to visit the Prophet It was dawn, right? I was there to follow the Prophet So, Subuh. I already followed Habib. So, that was still a bar.

Yes, the bar was still big. So, there were many sports facilities. Among them, there was a mini-soccer. I was there for the ceremony.

So, Habib was invited to the mini-soccer ceremony?

No, no.

Subuh's party. It was called Subuh Argenzi. I was asked to be held.

I thought it was a mini-show. I mean, there's Alex Pulalo.

There's someone else.

It's not Habib, bro.

There's Habib, a football player. Salim Ali, too.

There's that. Why?

I wanted to stop it it. I was wearing a Juviet shirt. I was going to turn it off when it beeped. But I was in a hurry because of the tour schedule.

What do you think, Divu? What do you think of Christian men? What do you think? They are really cool, the men with their religion. What are their habits or things they do?

Honestly, it's a habit or something that's done, as simple as that. Honestly, it's safe here.

No, don't put it that way. The kid will be confused.

Exclusive.

He said it like this.

No, I'm not answering.

No, it's okay. Maybe if you still think about it, or you're worried, I'll start. If I'm one of the respecters, it's the Christians, even I'm one of the respect that is a Christian, even a Buddhist, once in Bandung too, if you want to eat, the prayer is solid,

the prayer is long, everything is prayed for as a form of gratitude. That's in my opinion, very basic, and it's not just a Christian and Buddhist teaching, Islamic teaching too, that's what was done by Prophet Daud and Prophet Sulaiman when they were looking for the one who will be the owner of heaven Allah shows a person who every meal always pray

as a way of thanks to Allah and to all creatures that make the food delicious sometimes we pray to the Muslims we forget to pray and for the Christians, they are Buddhists too when in for Christians, they are Buddhists.

So when I'm in Bandung, I pray a lot. What about you, Divo? After seeing you, even though you are a Christian, it turns out that this habit that you do is really cool.

As a Christian.

Yes, the tolerance is really high. We are different. We are server. Yes, channels. We're like servers.

Yes, your tolerance. Even though you're a very Christian.

Yes, I've seen people on TikTok who are like,

if you're on a different channel, you'll have a long debate for 20-30 hours.

Yes, on TikTok.

That's why don't go to TikTok. Your tolerance is amazing

But have you ever learned about Christian teachings, Divo?

Not yet

Not yet?

I've never taught either I've never taught either

Actually, it's okay to teach So that he doesn't misunderstand and finally be tolerant to Christians But there's a scripture at home I mean, there's a scripture at home. Did you ever take a book?

No. Oh, no?

Never.

Oh.

Because I also never introduced and never taught.

Not even a little bit?

No, never.

Not even a little bit. Again, this guy.

The thinnest one, I I pray according to my beliefs. That's all. And then he sees.

But have you ever, honestly,

Exclusive.

Exclusive again.

Have you ever prayed,

hoping that they...

I never in my prayer to my God, mentioned for my children and wife to will never believe me.

Not at all?

Not at all. I only pray for the best. The best is already complete.

But in your heart, the best is...

Why do you force people?

No, no.

Not even a little bit. Is there anything that you really want to do with your father, but is blocked by religious differences? Maybe like when I'm at the mosque on Friday, I sit next to my father. My father listens to the kusbah, I go to bed, I wake up. Oh, like other children. your dad come with you?

No, he's just there to hang out

Oh, I see

So, like other kids, when they go to the mosque their dad would hold their hands and they would play or they would sleep and their dad would wake them up Maybe it's possible, you're used to wearing a shirt

on Friday, you can just go in but when you pray, he you pretend to move your bike. So that you can have the experience on Friday.

That's the lesson when I was doing research. Just now, with Ustaz Hanan Ataki in Surabaya. At that time, I bought tickets for two sessions. During the last session, the third session, I was with the prayer of Eid prayer and the prayer of Teraweh.

I was the first one to sit.

Oh, that was on Saturday? Yes, just a week ago. During the session, usually, the first one to sit is the fastest, right? And I tried to be the first one to sit.

Christians are the word for the front seat. Yes, but it was a religious word. Now I do the word for the study.

The word for study.

And the word for the front seat. When I was studying. But when I knew that there was a prayer meeting for Jesus and the disciples,

I immediately turned back.

Did you sell Michael Jackson?

No, I didn't. I immediately turned back and gave, you mean the Michael Jackson's way? No, no.

I immediately turned around and gave him a chance to look at it. And when Ustaz Danan Ataki read it, I posted it on TikTok, and it turned out that Ustaz Danan Ataki was reading Al-Imran. Al-Imran. I cried, Ustaz.

Why? I don't know.

Because you don't understand the meaning.

I don't know the meaning. I mean, I don't know what kind of vibration it is. So when I saw them praying, Ustaz Dananat Hakim, reading Surah Al-Imran, I got a shiver and cried.

I was crying because I saw it. I was live on TikTok. I was on TikTok. Why?

This is a sign of a believer. If you read the verses, you will be shivering. I was crying.

There is no live TikTok. I'm so nervous I'm crying when I watch your live tiktok

I don't have any intention to watch your live tiktok Oh, you watch my live tiktok Because you're a content creator No, I'm not a content creator

I just want to share my experience

Oh, you want to share So you make content but you're not a content creator You just want to share your experience

I often refuse to endorse Because I'm not a content creator I I'm just sharing my experience. I often refuse to endorse because I'm not a content creator, I'm not looking for money in Facebook.

Throw it to us.

Sure, sure.

Cheap, not cheap. But it's true, Muslim, one of the three moments that made the Prophet cry was, first, nationalism, when the Prophet was expelled from Mecca because of his love for the land of Mecca and the second, when he was left by his beloved people, Sayyidah Hadijah, his beloved wife and Srinab Abu Talib, the uncle of the Prophet Muhammad and the third, when he was read the Qur'an and that's actually not something that was just felt by Mr. Daniel In the past, people who opposed the Prophet

They often spied on the Prophet They followed the Prophet When the Prophet read the Qur'an I don't know why, but they became focused Then their hearts trembled and cried And when it was over, they were confused

What happened to me? Because we believe that Al-Quran is a miracle, not just words, but feelings. Actually, the popular one that I often tell is Isospeed, bro.

Isospeed?

Isospeed is when you play games, you get angry, right?

It's a style of Al-Quran.

That's right. That's it. In fact, in the last study, I found a...

a... I was in heaven when he gave me a dog to drink. The thirsty one? Yes, the one with the four legs. I learned a lot from those studies. So you have to focus on finding thirsty dogs?

No, not really. Do you want to have a family umrah?

Yes, as a Muslim, I do.

You want to, right?

but it is also forbidden

you can't join

you can join, but you have to go to Riyadh

wait in Jeddah or Riyadh

you can't go there if it's a haram location, you can't there is even a writing, non-Muslim, turn there is a writing because there is a verse in the Qur'an that non-Muslims are not allowed to enter the Haram mosque

in the confidence of the majority of Muslims. But when in Mecca or Madinah, is it still allowed? Those who are not allowed are in the Haram land, some in Mecca and some in Madinah. But usually, when entering Mecca or Madinah, non-Muslims are given a sign to turn around. Divo and you don't have to worry, because you two are already on the path of Allah. In our belief as Muslims.

Divo with his Islam, and you as his Ahlul Fitr. A person who is faithful to his pure heart, that he will continue to search and seek the truth without covering himself wherever the truth is, whether it is Islam in the future and if you, hopefully long life, finally die before embracing Islam but in a position like now, looking for the truth then, God willing, the scholars believe in terms of concept, you will meet Dhifu in heaven

Amen

That's it

Good news maybe

I have never talked to Divo before, Bip.

Divo... What... God willing, I'll be with Divo in the afterlife. Even if you are called first, in any condition, please take care of my mother and my sister. So that you won't become their imam.

And Mr. Dhani's sincerity is great. It means, actually, in terms of value, he is already very Islamic because of what God has taught us as Muslims, that your child is not yours, he is chosen by your God. Your job is to meet him

and return him to his God. So, it's not about choosing his religion, but introducing him to his God. So, he didn't choose his religion, but he introduced himself and chose the religion he wanted. So, it wasn't Mr. Danil who chose him, but it was God.

So, Mr. Danil only gave him access to education, and gave him a special feeling. So that the child will find himself who is his God, what is his religion,

and the deeds that must be done. Because, لَقُمْ دِنُكُمْ وَلِيَتِي بَغِيمُ عَغَمَمُ and for my actions, in the middle of the difference of sects in the Islamic world, and whatever happens,

even though we are different religions, we are brothers in humanity. Whatever happens, Pak Daniel is a biological father for Divo, although not an ideological father because of his religion. So, until forever, Divo must love, pray, and be devoted to Mr. Daniel.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr. Daniel. Thank you, Divo.

Divo, thank you. Divo, thank you.

Thank you. I'm out