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you can take it up with my representative. We're starting with the Chiefs. They're five and five currently outside of the playoffs after Bo Nix engineered yet another fourth quarter comeback and dare I say it, outplayed Patrick Mahomes. How shocked are you at the result of that game?

Dismayed.

Oh.

Completely.

All right, enough of the gibberish. Wait, I haven't even said anything yet, bro. I have been waiting years, Wilds. All of those FTF bowls where my Ravens let me down. Years, I say.

Not months.

Years.

Drop the banner. You have it. years. I know drop the banner.

We can you have brew. You need to press it. Brew is going rogue.

It's not the banner. What is the that's what you said three days ago. I will guarantee Chiefs

win and Mahomes out plays. Nicks Nick, right? It's probably a misquote because I doubt I said will I probably

said I guarantee

there is no way. Okay, something in that.

So I was I was as evidenced by that. I was shocked because they lost that game. So many different times.

They

the they were at listen. Denver was better. Denver outplayed them. The most absolutely shocking piece of it was Bo Nix played a better overall game than Patrick, which I did not think was possible and it happened, but fair is fair. I've watched every game of Bo Nix's entire career. I feel like that was unequivocally the best game he's ever played. He's had better statistical games but against awful teams like this

so that's start to finish I thought it was the best game and what made it so painful KW was start to finish There were moments the Chiefs come through that they didn't. First play of the game, they get a sack to put the Broncos behind the sticks. They let Bo Nix on that drive convert a second and 16 into a third and seven and then a first down and then later in that drive, they give up a third and 11. First offensive drive of the game, second play, Worthy's open for six.

Just straight open, in your opening script, Mahomes overshoots him. Back-to-back drives, inside the 15-yard line, they settle for field goals. In the second half, they would have had a first-in-goal from the two.

In a 6-6 game, Jawan Taylor's a foot in the backfield, flag, and then Mahomes throws a terrible pick on third and eleven that you just are third and fourteen whatever it was in this in a 6 6 game.

You don't have to press like Yeah like it would have been nice to score but three points is what you needed. And then the three most painful parts of it.

They have the ball up three in the fourth quarter. They go three and out. They have the ball tied in the fourth quarter with four minutes left. What Mahomes and this Chiefs team have made a living on for a decade. Got the ball, four minutes, good job, good effort. We win.

Go three and out and then after all that they have, there's two minutes left. Denver is a third and a third and fifteen credit to Scott Kazmar for pointing this out. Over the previous two years prior to this year, the Chiefs gave up two. Third and tens, third and tens in the fourth quarter of one score games.

Over two seasons, they gave up two. This year they've given up four. The Justin Herbert won in week one, Jalen Hurts got him with one, there was a penalty on a pick, Trevor Lawrence pick within that comeback with a penalty to give it to him and then that

3rd and 15 against Bownicks to get the ball back and you give it up like they deserve to lose. I hate it. It's painful. It's not who they've been for 8 years, but they deserve to lose that game.

Yeah, and I talked about this at times last year of what would they lose their mystique? I think there were games coming up and I was like, well, if so-and-so beats them, they'll take that mystique from the Chiefs. And nobody did it until the Super Bowl.

But that mystique seems to be gone. And in fairness to Denver and a credit to them, under Sean Payton, they haven't bowed to that mystique. You know, Payton has not been afraid of them. Last year, they obviously played them tough, beat them without Mahomes.

Payton was talking trash at halftime.

Yeah, I mean, he, yeah, so, but that for other teams, particularly next week, we'll see how Indianapolis responds, but that mystique being gone is some of what we're seeing now. And the Chiefs last year, we know they were 10-0 in one-score games.

This year, they're 0-5 in those games. And Mahomes, you brought up, he has to be at, look, we all know how great he is, but he has to be better this year. Like, that interception, you said it cost him three points. It was tied 6-6 early third quarter. Obviously, it cost them at least three points, but then Denver

went down and scored their only touchdown of the game. So they go up seven and that's the second. He has he's thrown what six interceptions this year.

I think that's the second one that arguably like cost them a game because Jacksonville when the when the pick six and

listen, you could argue that the Philly one did as well at the goal line, but that wasn't as funny. That was right. There have been three interceptions right around the goal line that flipped games one. I do not put on him. But like that is that is potentially a difference between the Chiefs being eight and two. Yeah, and five and

again, I am the Chiefs this year brew are compared to at this point last season when they were nine and one the Chiefs this year, Brew, are compared to at this point last season when they were nine and one. The Chiefs are averaging more points. They are allowing fewer points. They have a better offensive and defensive success rate and they have a better plus minus. And so they are like that is those is the one right but that but I am not I believe that's what football is like like I am not going to sit here and be a hypocrite because last year like

when we talk about the Phil the Eagles you'll probably be surprised I will be very complimentary I believe though that the folks that tried a small sample size football are just wrong that there is a real skill to coming through in those moments and not making the critical mistake. And I don't think it's like, ah, just regression to the mean.

Right now, this team is getting in its own way, in a way last year's team, which was not as healthy or as talented as this year's team because of the personnel found a way not to.

And look, let me give some credit to Denver because I mean, obviously the Chiefs losing is a huge story, particularly in this show. But Denver now 9-2. Bo Nix not only outplayed Mahomes yesterday, this is the second straight game they've played against each other where I think he's outplayed my homes. This is their these are their numbers. Remember last year

when they lost 16 and 14 on the black punt. Nix's numbers were better than my homes is in that game. I mean, Nick's played really well and typically they would have won that game had it not been for the great black punt but you look at the numbers, passer rating, touchdown interception ratio, yards per attempt,

everything for the most part is in Nick's favor. Now he has not been good in most games through three quarters, but he is clutch. And look at, you mentioned these passes, Nick. Look at these two passes. I mean, this is the last minutes of the game

and he makes this 20-yard pass.

That's third and 15. It's third and 15 and you get him off the field, you probably win the game. And you got to give him, but like I said, give him some credit. And then this one to get to the Chiefs. Oh, this one to get to the Chiefs. Oh, yeah, this one to get to the Chiefs. I think this is the one. Yeah, this is the 15-yard line. 32-yarder to Troy Franklin. I mean, that is a great pass. That's

the last play of the game I saw. That is a wonderful pass. Threw it in the right place. And so you got to give Bo Nicks credit. I still haven't seen the field goal. I heard I listen to it. I that that play you just show. Yeah, that happened. I grabbed my keys grabbed 75 cents to buy a cigarette and you think there could be a second straight. I listened to it on on and listen to it

as a just in case, but no, I haven't seen the field goal.

What are you about? Look bad news. They beat you without patch or tan their best player and Alex Singleton, their leading tackler.

At the same time, this is a little glass half full because

that means they're more dangerous than the Ravens. The most dangerous team out of every team not in the playoffs. Yeah, but for like, they've yet to beat a playoff team alongside the Saints, the Cardinals, the Titans, the Jets and the Cowboys. But that's a weird one because they beat, they beat in Detroit and they beat in Baltimore who are favored to make the playoffs but are not currently in the playoffs.

Yes. So still, but still as odd as it is. At the same time, I don't think it's like, I think they're going to make the playoffs. I think they're going to be dangerous in the playoffs. And I don't think any of us would bet against them

in their first playoff.

Well, are we going to do the, is it time to panic? Do we want to do that now? Sure. Because I think that's what that conversation is. Oh, I'm sorry. We can't do it yet. Why? I was trying to because I was trying to, like, land the plane softly. And now the producers are in my ear saying, not yet.

Why?

We have a special guest, unfortunately.

If this is Greg Jennings, who wasn't even here. Even worse.

Who?

Oh, sweet Christ, man. This guy's got a lot of – and a day after Justin Herbert throws for 80 yards. It's a lot of

I just wanted to be on the winning side of the table.

We go.

So we have first place pairs first place Patriots.

Nice win.

Ravens on the rise.

Nice win for your Ravens. Nice ponytail. Listen, I think no one is going to say that the Dynasty is over but one thing did officially end on Sunday.

This hurts me too.

What is it?

Sorry.

T3 man lives!

The tackle that meant absolutely nothing.

That is true.

Right, I mean, come on.

That is, Nick, it is...

The tackle that turned the tide.

T6 is gone.

KW, this is a real test, KW. He's gone. KW is a real test. KW is Kate.

Hope you remember I as part of my deal to get the trumpeters. I have to defend that. I think you're wrong. I will that turn the tide. It's you know, much like a tide

comes in goes out.

You can't judge it until back. Yeah. Thank you. K. Let in goes out. You can't judge it on.

Back. Thank you.

Let's zoom out.

Well I'm with you.

More of Danny Park is at five

o'clock.

My ponytail looks like they're run of nine straight AFC West titles over currently outside the playoff pictures which is complicated by the fact that the teams ahead of them the Bills

Jags and charters all have a win over the Chiefs already. So picture of the playoff picture, I kind of jumped the gun here talking about how I'm scared of the Chiefs, but hey, they're in ninth place behind the Texans that we kind of rode off. At the same time, if I'm the number two Patriots, I do not want to see them at all.

Of course. What's the question, Kato?

Are you panicking? Or is it time to panic? Are we nearing time to panic?

You sadly see these stories sometimes with pro athletes. You see them a lot, lottery winners. People who grew up in very meager means. And were fine, were happy. You know what I mean? Like they were living their life.

Yes.

And then got incredible wealth for a few years or a decade or whatever, a period of time and then lose the wealth and can't find, they can't remember that they used to be able to, they were happy before the money. Like that they, even though they had lived that way, they can't.

That's how I feel looking at tiebreakers with the Texans and the Jags. I lit, I grew up in that world. We're like, can we scratch our way into the playoffs? Like, oh, I'm, I'm on, I'm trying to figure out like if this team loses and this team wins, it's good for us to make the playoffs. That was my whole life as a Chiefs fan and it was fine. But now I've had seven years of eating caviar and I'm not built for this world anymore.

I'm not.

I found myself this morning on that stupid athletic playoff predictor machine. Not just the predictor because you can toggle through and be like if they win and they win

and the person.

I'm I'm going through it and I'm like I am all of a sudden trying to tease out when the Jags play the Colts. Who do I need? And I'm like this is what it's come to. So that is a way to answer, kind of.

Yeah, that's a good answer.

So this is, Brew, this would be the math to it. They have seven games left. They are favored in all seven. Whether they should be or not, they are. If they go seven and O, obviously they're in. If they go 6-1, and that would mean they finish 11-6, they almost assuredly are in. 5-2, it gets dicey because they don't have these tiebreakers.

And 4-3, they're done. They're out. They're not making it at 9-8 with the bad tiebreakers. So, I believe they will make the playoffs and I believe that if they make the playoffs having won six of their last seven, to your point, and where we have seen them, the level they played against Baltimore, the level they played against Detroit, the level, I know they're a terrible team, but the total start to finish domination they did to the Raiders. I do think that none of the 30, the 30, that's how far it's gone. No, I just mean, well, Nick did always like

the, um, I am, I'm agreeing with what you were saying. Like they, if they get

in, I, they, if they get in,

they will be playing at a level that you will feel like with the wide open AFC and unproven quarterbacks at the top. Like, if they get a rematch, they beat Denver and Kansas City, which they're going to have to, and then they get a rematch of this game,

you're going to feel okay about it. But.

Buddy, from now on looks like we're going to have to carry the show. Just to keep on the kept on going down the road like we got it. He's strong. You can be with the Ravens will be in Patriots will be in you can support us pick a team to like

really ride with I don't I feel better about the Chiefs than the Ravens. But that's a separate that's a separate.

I'll say it's isn of making the playoffs, huh?

Yeah.

Oh. Yeah, because that's the one tiebreaker the Chiefs have. Now I know your, your, your.

Yeah, I'm counting on them winning the division.

Your hopes is the division.

Yeah. Well, I am, and I said, I alluded to this last week. If they lose this, lost this game, which they did, I would for the first time this season think They might miss the playoffs and I am now at Nick and this isn't probably isn't high enough for you I feel like 55% that they will make the playoffs Like 45% that they what did you say that your athletic playoff 57, right? Is that what it is?

Look, I think like I said about the Ravens, that Chicago game coming off the bye, to me that was their season. If they won that, I'd feel good about them. If not, I feel like next week's game against Indianapolis, which obviously is a good team,

to me that's the season for the Chiefs. Like if they win that game, I'll feel like, okay, they'll be fine, they'll right the ship. If they lose, it's not just the math. They'll be five and six. Like you said, if they won out from there, they'd be 11 and six.

But I would feel like if they've lost three straight games, one of them coming off a bye, two Daniel Jones would be the third straight loss. I just wouldn't think they're good enough to win out. You know, I mean, Houston, not that they're a very good team, but their defense is kind of like Denver's and CJ Stroud will be back by that point, presumably, and then they'll still have the Chargers and the Broncos again.

So I would think they're not going to win out.

Their record just won't be good enough. Listen, I think it's probably going to come down to the Chiefs and the Chargers for the final spot, which also and I'm not trying to get too far ahead of us, but I just want to plant my flag on a potential interesting

moment.

The Chargers final game of the year is against Denver. Now, Denver, maybe, will be super incentivized to win because they're trying to get the one seed. We'll see how that goes. It's also in play that Denver has the ability

to keep the Chiefs out of the playoffs.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, like again, that would have to be...

If Denver had wrapped up the division. Oh, wow. Yeah, like again, that would, it would have to be. If Denver had wrapped up the

division. Right, if if Denver, if right, they would have to be a very narrow spot of, they've wrapped up the division, can't get the one seed, and then be like, we don't care for the two or the three, whatever it is. I don't know but I just know that. Interesting. That that Jags game is right now the fulcrum of the season. Because they lost the tiebreaker in the Jags.

I mean, by the way.

Sorry, you want to end it?

Yeah, I mean, give me this. This is an outrage.

It didn't feel right.

Thank you.

Get rid of those.

Let's move on.

All right, let's head to Philadelphia, where the Eagles hung on, thanks to either excellent defense and offense that does just enough a will to win or a bogus pass interference call. I like that news today. Lane Johnson, Liz Frank out four to six weeks. It's tough. I have the Eagles going back to the Super Bowl. Should I feel better or worse after last

night's game?

You should feel fantastic. Fantastic.

You don't?

Not necessarily, no.

Why not?

Am I being set up for something here?

Definitely, but you can't see it coming, so go ahead. You obviously are being set up.

You don't feel good. They just beat the Detroit Lions.

Held them to nine.

They averaged 30. Held them to nine.

They averaged 30. They held them to nine points.

The defense is great.

Let's not delight.

The defense is great. Defense wins championships. I love everything about that. At the same time, I'm an Eagles guy because I'm a Jalen Hurts guy. And this offense reminds me of Soylent.

Do you remember Soylent? Can I tell you something? I only remember it because once a year, you bring it up on the show and you're like, do you remember Soylent?

So you remember when I brought it up?

Yeah, because it's a meal substitute that gets the job done, but no one enjoys it. It's sludge. It's also, it's green sludge that's popular in Silicon Valley. And it's got all the vitamins and minerals you need.

And you take it and I think you squirt it into your mouth like one of those applesauces for children. And it works. But there's no joy in it. And it's not exciting.

It's just, it's the job done.

You know when the joy comes? When you wake up the next morning with energy That's when the joy comes and and for the the Eagles and their fans You know when the joy will come when they win back-to-back Super Bowl. You think this team is winning back? No, they weren't my prediction, but I think they're certainly capable. I look enough of the hand-wringing over the Eagles. Alright, they have beaten the Chiefs, the Rams, the Buccaneers, the Packers, and the

Lions. I mean, what are we talking about? I'm not caught up on style points, okay? If you want your food to look all pretty and cute, then fine. I'm not stopping. But it gets the job done.

I'm going to dig on real points, too. It's going 26 points over the last two weeks.

And they've held two Super Bowl contenders to 16 points. I just like complimentary football.

That's all.

I like all three phases.

Jaylen Hurts and crew haven't shown you enough times

that they can score when they need to? Why? Because you know what Brew is trying to do.

Hey.

You know what Brew is trying to do.

He don't even care.

You heard him, hey. If somebody was trying to take your girlfriend, and you were like, hey, whatever. You don't want her.

Do you want the Eagles?

First of all, the Patriots are my wife.

There we go.

OK. OK. The Eagles are, are, I don't even want to go down this road.

Exactly. A fun weekend in Vegas. That's just a French. Yeah. Listen, I'm telling you.

He gave me the Eagles last year.

I'm telling you, Brew is known the last couple years for having his NFC Super Bowl pick start looking a little gamey and swooping in from one of ours.

This is really an indictment on the Packers.

That's a perfect go-to format. Correct. I mean, a little bit. We'll get to the Packers later. Can I say one thing about the Eagles?

I just know the Eagles are apparently available.

Yeah. I mean...

All right. I'm still with the Pack.

They... they totally are, as I've been saying, last year's Chiefs, for good or for bad. Where they keep winning and people, now last year's Chiefs seem more united, but where they keep winning and people keep saying, I didn't like how they won and the internet whines about bad calls or missed calls that didn't actually matter. Like so, that pass interference call at the end was terrible. But Jared Goff was not about to all of a sudden

to start playing well. And so, I'm not defending the call. What I'm saying is, it is, there is just a lot of similarities to me of the defending Super Bowl champion not giving you the warm and fuzzy feeling

it gave you the previous year, but their schedule's been a gauntlet. They keep winning football games and people keep complaining about it. With that said, the offense has been brutal and Lane Johnson for

years has been called the most important player on the offense. I mean, I understand it's the quarterback. But the.. And so, I do think Lane Johnson being out, if he is out for the playoffs, it the and so I do think Lane Johnson being out. If he is out for the playoffs, it would change what I think about their chances. Oh, yeah, but if they have such a lead in the division, it

doesn't like if he's just out four to six weeks, which I don't know if we can trust the reporting these days, but if it really is that then it's they can deal with it.

They've got Cowboys up next. Welcome back to the show. Greg Jennings is here. Bruce Ravens predictions. Keep on coming true. Defense only allows nine points.

I'm not counting the pick six. That's not your fault. Baltimore escapes with a win over the Browns to get to 500. Browns.

Really good.

The Browns are Rudy feel better or worse after yesterday's game?

All right, first of all, shout out to my hometown, Cleveland Browns. They are the toughest, most ornery to win team you're going to find. And I mean that sounds, I mean it.

That's a tough, it's a tough win over that team. Yes, they are, they're some hardcore dudes one of the greatest players in the history of football. Yes. Like, legitimately one of the greatest players ever.

They're some hardcore dudes, but enough about the Browns.

The box!

Oh, the box is back.

Why?

Thank you.

Bro hubs.

You guys know that every week, I'm going to break something else out of my attire, my bit. But I gotta be honest. I actually moved a little further away from the robe yesterday.

Wow!

Wow!

I almost took the Jordans off.

No.

All right, yes.

Cause that, look, Greg knows this more than either of us, any of us. A win in the NFL is a win. And every win is tough and hard to come by. So I will take it, especially when you're 5 and 5 and need every W. But they didn't look great.

That's all I'm saying.

Now, what I will say, though, is this. If one of their areas needs to look bad, right? Because with the Ravens, it's been something. It's the special teams, it's the penalties, it's the defense. The defense obviously playing well.

Special teams and all that's been fine. It's the offense right now, and in particular, Lamar. Yeah. Yesterday was his first zero touchdown, two interception game ever, which is saying a lot.

What's this, his eighth, ninth year? And so, I'll say this though, if one area is not playing well, I would like it to be the offense because I have the most confidence

in them turning around. Like, I feel very strongly that Lamar, Derrick Henry and company will get things going Offensively, so with that said I will take the win the robe Not yet. That's for darn sure but five and five still feeling good about them and

They'll keep moving towards super. I will they I feel extremely confident. They'll win the

division even after the Steelers got a win yesterday.

Yes, okay, but right now they do not look like a Super Bowl contender. Correct. Even if the Chiefs by some way don't make the plus the Ravens don't right now look like the team is ready to take the torch. So I, they still have a ways to go, but I think they'll get there.

Yeah. Interesting to me, like you talk about their offense. I'm just going to talk strictly about Lamar Jackson. He can't play like that. And there's a couple of levels to this. Not only obviously the interceptions and regardless of how they were, they were, the tips, whatever. It is what it is. The frustrating thing to me when I watch this amazing electric player that we've not seen in our game,

Michael Vick, obviously closest thing to him. He doesn't use his legs anymore. He just does not. He beats 100 100% I don't care why this and I'm gonna tell you why I don't know. I'm gonna tell you why I don't care and I don't mean I don't care if he's not a hundred percent. I don't care that if he isn't a hundred percent. He doesn't

even show the thought of using his legs because he has to understand he is the biggest and greatest threat that the Ravens have. I get Derrick Henry and we all want them to run the ball and their identity and all the things. If they are gonna throw the ball the level that they are choosing to throw it with Lamar Jackson and he's going to choose to extend plays

the way that he extends plays and still take those hits. Use your legs. Just use your legs.

Extend the play forward.

Be a threat. Be a threat and impose your will on the defense to now make them pay attention to what you are and have always been as a running quarterback.

I get it. They don't like that narrative. Yeah, but it's part of one of the reasons. And this is where I'm trying to have a big holistic Lamar combo here. But one of the member in the offseason when they were like, if you remove running, Lamar is the greatest quarter, but the passer of the football all time. And I had the crazy take. I'm like, I don't know. Peyton Manning was pretty good at throwing the ball. Drew Brees. I think it is disingenuous for some of the biggest Lamar fans

to pretend as if his prodigious passing numbers are not in part because people defend him in a certain way because he's so great with his legs. That is not a knock. That is a compliment. That is, he has a trait unlike any other quarterback we've ever seen that forces defenses to play

a certain way that he then, I guess to your example, Vic had the trait as well. And with respect to our dear friend Michael Vic, Vic couldn't take advantage of those passing looks the way Lamar can. But if defenses start to say, he ain't running, then all of a sudden he gets defended a little differently and if he doesn't counteract that by then being like, I'm now gonna run, it's a problem for them.

So here's the point, and I said it maybe oddly, because I guess, I do believe the Ravens have a higher percentage chance of making the playoffs than Kansas City because they have the two paths. They could theoretically be a wild card but they also.. The division winner, they could get in with nine wins while the Chiefs can't get in with nine wins.

What I was trying to say is the reason I feel better about Kansas City is what you were saying about the Chiefs, if they get in, man, everyone's gonna be scared because of their playoff history. I feel like Baltimore has the opposite thing working. Their playoff history is awful, so they need to be rolling. You don't look at the Ravens to me and feel like, oh, they snuck in, they backed into the playoffs, but luckily, they're

going to flip that playoff switch. You need to see the offense humming, you need to see them playing well, and I haven't seen it from them. I haven't seen them play a complete game all year. And Lamar hasn't been the same since he came back from injury, so that's all concerning.

Robe next week quickly brew against Tyrod Taylor

in the Jets.

Doubtful.

OK.

We finally got to see Shadour on the field. The results, mixed bag. He threw a pick, took a few huge sacks, also was a great defensive play away from throwing a game-tying touchdown.

Your reaction?

First of all, I wish people would do a better job at not making utter fools of themselves when relation to this story. Like Stefanski says, acknowledges Shador, that you know, those are his first first team reps. And people that know better acting like that's insane, criminal. When that is simply how it works.

And again, I understand why it is the media's job to educate the fans that like, hey, and I'm not trying to like from and again, I like I understand why for it is the media's job to educate the fans that like, hey, and I'm not trying to like from on high but we have insight to like how

these things work. Once the season starts, the backup or third string is not going to get reps with the first string ever and we knew we didn't get it in training camp. So, this

isn't a grand. He was third string quarterback being treated like third string quarterback. So that's first of all. Second of all, the best defense of Shador is guys, the Browns might just have no idea what they're doing in relation to this position at all. And we'll see how it plays out for him. He's now going to get his chance because I don't think most guys don't clear concussion protocol within a week. So now he will get repped certainly in practice with the ones. He will get a Raiders team that might have been overvalued by some and we'll get to see

him with a full week of practice whatever it is. But he looked in this game like a player that was not ready. He played like a guy who that's why he hadn't unseated Dylan Gabriel who has been the worst starting quarterback in the league so far this year.

It doesn't take a grand conspiracy and folks in the media who know better but have been just so warped by their what their Twitter algorithm rewards are doing in my opinion

Greg the fans a disservice here.

You're spot on. You're absolutely spot on. As a former player, my job, if I were ever in this position or when I watched guys who were in his position, when you get the opportunity, you must be ready. Especially, it's paramount at the quarterback position.

Because we all understand any moment, any play, any hit, it can be your turn. And to have made some of the statements that we've heard him make, and I'm gonna make this just solely about Shadur. Some of the statements that he has made

about other quarterbacks in this league and he would be, or he feels like he should be playing, or he's better than some of the guys that have been playing thus far and then to get an opportunity and to show that I was disappointed.

You thought it was worse than just a rookie out there for the

first time.

So it is a rookie out there for the first time. We haven't seen a rookie quarterback that has not been a top day day one draft pick, top first round draft pick being treated like this. And so if he's going to be treated like this, I have to... You mean the publicity or whatever?

The publicity, the expectations, the thought that we all have, because I thought he was great coming out of college. However, when I watched yesterday, he validated everything that Kevin Stefanski and that staff has positioned him, where they've positioned him. Third string, not ready, needs more work. Because when I watched the game, the greatest, and maybe you can fault some coaches, I don't know. But the greatest and maybe you can fault some coaches. I don't know.

But the greatest tool that a young quarterback has when he's thrown in a game is his cadence. Your cadence, especially when you are not a

escapability. Your escapability isn't that of the guy that's across the field from you and Lamar Jackson. Use your cadence. You already hold the ball a long time. You know that they're going to try to pressure. It's what coordinators do to young quarterbacks. They try to confuse them, muddy the picture for them.

And yet, it was almost like he wasn't ready for it. And it was so disappointing because he's had time to learn, to sit behind Flacco, not mobile at all. So, you know, he's going to use his cadence. You know, he's had an opportunity to at least watch,

even if he's not under center with those ones, pay attention, be attentive to detail, and when your time comes, you can't miss like this. You can't miss.

Well, to your point, four for 16 is what he was. That's the worst completion percentage of any passer who's attempted 10 or more passes in the last four years in a single game. So it was bad. I wanna talk to to I agree with everything

you guys said. And this is pure speculation. It looks to me in this situation, like the owner of the team, this is from just reading what's going on and from again, I'm speculating, but from stuff Kevin Stefanski is saying and stuff. It looks like the owner forced them to draft Shadur and then earlier in the year said I want to see him play too and it looks like Stefanski resents that which is understandable right? You're the head coach I determine who plays when they

play and stuff like that. And it looks like either because of the resentment or just to Greg's point. Maybe he sees in practice. He's not close. This kid's not close to being ready. And as bad as Dylan Gabriel has been his operation looks smoother. And should do it. Like, you're right. Good good until he throws the ball.

I mean, real, that's really what it is. Like, it doesn't look like he's not prepared or not ready. And maybe Stefanski's seeing that, and then, and because that hasn't really prepared him, because you don't prepare a project, necessarily, and as you said, backups don't get those things anyway.

So here's where I see this going. Whether Gabriel's ready or not, and he probably won't be, if you're Stefanski, now, start Shadur next week. They play the Raiders, a bad team. If he cooks, which probably is unlikely, but let's say Shadur cooks.

Then you have a decision.

Then you have something. And you keep playing him.

Like, you're you have a decision. You have something and you keep playing him like

you're looking for a quarterback. So let him play

the game or eventually you'll benching but everyone will see

he's not ready and and the distraction of you got to play Deion Sanders son, you got to play Shadur goes away because everybody will see he just wasn't ready to play. I want to just add this last piece this next game against the Raiders is going to be so important for Shadur because I don't want to make it unfair he the game plan wasn't for him. So you come in and you still have to be ready. So now you get the week of practice. If you are to be the starter, it's going to be all towards you,

and you should be able to perform at a better rate than what we saw yesterday. than what we saw yesterday.

I didn't know he thought it was that bad.