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PAK PRESIDEN EVALUASI SEMUA TUNJANGAN PEJABAT, BENAR DEMONSTRASI ITU SENGAJA DIBUAT?? (RIEKE DIAH P)

PAK PRESIDEN EVALUASI SEMUA TUNJANGAN PEJABAT, BENAR DEMONSTRASI ITU SENGAJA DIBUAT?? (RIEKE DIAH P)

CURHAT BANG Denny Sumargo

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0:00

I can't answer that. You don't have to show me the data. You have to see how it works. The data is for the people. We have to fight this. I understand.

0:12

You can just tell me the cost. Indonesia's research, back to 0 km, evaluate all salaries and loans in the state institutions. Stop all foreign exchange moratoriums,

0:24

not just DPR. Here, 3 trillion, what for? DPR is just a sticker. I want to learn politics, so we invite the one and only Mrs. Rike Diapitaloka, SS... It's started?

0:38

M...

0:39

Kum!

0:40

Wow, it's started, Ma'am, since earlier.

0:42

Oh, I see.

0:43

My CV is already...

0:44

I want to read this. Born in Garut, 8th January 1974.

0:48

Don't mention the year, okay?

0:50

Education, PhD, Department of Dutch Literature, University of Indonesia, Philosophy Studies, Master of Philosophy, 2007, Doctor of Communication Studies,

0:58

University of Indonesia, 2022. Oh my, you don't have to ask about this. A long career journey, political issues, and now the next step is related to the issue of the DPRK's support. You just came from a meeting, right?

1:14

Budget meeting. This is an important moment. The determination of the allocation of the APBN, which is more than 3 trillion, will it really be a right target? Or will it be another wrong target? And then, the people's taxes will increase,

1:36

but actually what the people get is not as much as the taxes that we have set. I want to make it light. If there is a narrative that someone, a member of the DPRK, is being non-activated, does he still receive other benefits and facilities? Well, being non-activated is different from being suspended.

1:59

Okay.

1:59

If you are non-activated, and what needs to be recorded is, based on the constitution from the party later to suggest that it must be stopped, it must be signed by the president, I'm not wrong like that okay, that means there is a time, it cannot be stopped today, that day he also did not work directly the administration process is finished, it can't be included in the disbandment of the DPR, the question is whether the DPR can be dis already finished, it can't be like that. Including the DPR dissolution. The question is, can the DPR be dissolved? Yes, it can.

2:27

So how? So that the dissolution is constitutional. The Constitution is safe again. In the third amendment of the Constitution, Article 17c says that the DPR cannot be frozen, even dissolved. So everything goes back to the Constitution. Yes. So, everything is back to the constitution.

2:45

Because we can't just say that there is a phenomenon like this, it is a valuable lesson, at least for me. Not to mention, I received a thank you from my friends who have come. Who were they, ma'am? In front of the DPR building? Jeremy Polen, Jerome Jerome, Andovi. You had a dialogue earlier.

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3:08

Yes, and then, I can't do it personally because of the institution, but if asked, whatever it is, personally, I will support this request. And of course, I will support the leaders and the committees to continue to impose these demands Yes, there are 17 plus 8 demands, have you seen all of them yet? Yes, I have That's one of them, there's talk about rent, the rent is actually ...

3:37

Rent for the house, because our house, the house of the department is mortgaged

3:41

Yes, I know that, finally given money

3:44

Actually, for example, the DPR and DKI also received house loans, 78 million. Per? Per month. And some of the second-level provinces also have such loans.

3:56

Well, if you ask again personally, please, all the loans are removed, you can get the salary. But don't forget that the DPR is a state institution. One of the state institutions,

4:09

which is called a legislative institution, but there are also executive and unicative. Yes, that's right. The affairs of the officials in the state institutions are regulated in about 11 laws and 12 government regulations.

4:25

That many?

4:27

Yes, because there should be a legal responsibility. If asked, is it legal to pay such a large DPR?

4:36

Yes.

4:36

Legally, it is legal. But I often say that the legal part is not necessarily moral. So it becomes an important note. Well, with this issue, in my opinion, this is a momentum that must be taken for, I say, Indonesia's reset, back to zero kilometers, all of us, including all bureaucrats,

5:01

and we who work at the state institutions, if it is to do it, we should evaluate all the salaries and benefits at the state institutions. Let's support the President to immediately issue a regulation to evaluate all the benefits at all state institutions, including the regional government and the DPRD. I brought this on purpose.

5:29

What is it, ma'am? This is the APBN book of 2026, Besti. What's inside? All ministries and institutions are here, including the DPRD. The salaries, the bonds, everything? Only the bribe.

5:43

But if we look at it, I'll take another example. The ministerial loan, one of the highest is the Ministry of Finance. 300%. 300% of the loan.

5:56

300% a year?

5:58

A month's loan. The loan will be accumulated for a year. How much is it, ma'am? I'll read it.

6:06

I'm curious too.

6:08

Because in my opinion, if you want to do it, do it all. While the president can firmly do it, stop all foreign visits, not just the DPR. But the executive body, the judicative body, if it a hurry, they have to go. For example, the president has to visit China. There is an important diplomatic meeting. That's a must. Actually, in the 17 plus 8 demand,

6:39

Transparency, especially the DPR. Yes, the budget issue and all that. Because transparency is something that people never see. In the end, everything that is covered up will cause suspicion. Now, transparency is more important than what the DPR gets.

6:54

Or maybe...

6:56

Everything, yes. Because the DPR budget is part of the APBN's posture. So, if you want transparency, everything is about transparency. Yes, if you want transparency, all of it. Yes, it should be like that. Not just one side of the DPR. Thank you if you think it's important to criticize like that.

7:12

But, it's better to take a step forward. If transparency is for all of the ministries, institutions, governments, and regions.

7:22

If you want to, not everyone wants to.

7:25

They have to.

7:26

This is the momentum, in my opinion. And then there's the narration that the rent is 50 million, not per month, but per year.

7:34

So what's the right thing to do? 50 million per month, that's it.

7:38

But...

7:40

How do you say it?

7:42

But the budget is one year. So when discussing the budget is one year so discussing the budget, APBN for 2025 is one year next year 2026, can't be calculated now I'm a member of DPR, what do I get?

8:00

salary? 4 points

8:03

yes, that's it, it's up to you, just google it

8:06

it's not good to talk about numbers

8:08

what did I get first? salary, salary salary then I got? rent what rent? house rent

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the most crowded, the biggest one is actually house rent

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house rent, 50 million per month

8:20

wow, 600 million per year if I'm 5 years old, I get 3 billion, right?

8:25

3M.

8:27

3M, ma'am. I already got 3M, ma'am.

8:29

Yes, if you want to delete it, delete it.

8:31

Hold on, ma'am. I'm a member of the DPR. Then what else do I get, ma'am?

8:35

Yes, it's the same as the others. Electricity, all kinds of things.

8:37

How much is that?

8:38

I don't know the details. So the point is, if in a year, how much can I get if I become a DPR? Because I'm applying for a job in the story, right?

8:47

I don't know.

8:49

I don't know, right? Because I'm 4 periods, right?

8:53

Yes, 4 periods.

8:54

So in my opinion, it's relative. Relative. For me, just return the interest like the old salary and loan. Just proportional. I've been... Sorry friends of the DPR, I've been rejected and finally there was a cancellation that the DPR got a budget like the DPRD per

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year 25 billion. Because in my opinion, DPRRI and DPRD are different. Yes. DPR RI is regulated by the Basic Law. Its function is as an executive supervisor.

9:29

Yes, that's right.

9:30

So it's not a budget user.

9:32

Right.

9:32

And DPR RI works, it must not only for the electorate.

9:39

Because RI, Republic of Indonesia. If only for the electorate, then the name will be changed to DPR DAPIL. If DPRD is based on the regional government laws, it is part of the government. So it has a budgeting function. It can use the budget. So it has a budget. budgeting, he can do it. He can implement it. So, legally, it's wrong.

10:09

And finally, it was canceled and he accepted it if everyone was angry.

10:14

The second one,

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the second one was when the DPR first came in, What year was it, Ma'am? 2009. How old were you then? 2009 The DPRRI could be treated with the facility of VVIP Yes, VVIP It was even abroad Then I thought, Oneng thought, when he joined the DPRRI

10:40

Why was the people rejected from the hospital? So it was canceled Why is the people being rejected from hospitals? Why is the people being rejected? Right? Yes. So it was cancelled.

10:47

It's cancelled.

10:47

Now it can't be done anymore. The DPRR is going abroad to get treatment.

10:51

It's not allowed. You have to pay for it yourself. If that's the case, the rest will be like that.

10:55

I'm sorry, friends.

10:56

Yes, I understand. Because, Mrs. Kesenjangan, So the point is, the people are represented by the DPR. The DPR is a group of people who represent aspirations and hopes.

11:09

Then the problem is, the people are in a position... Now, what a Rikradiapitaloka will do? I, with everything that is there, I am the Chairperson of the Workers' Confederation. Consolidate, yesterday Ojol, who passed away, Avan, it's a network, it consolidation of Ojol, which is the one who died, Avan, is the network, coincidentally, the network of Ojol,

11:28

is ours. So we have to make sure first, until we get the BPJS, everything, everything, everything. Well, I, then it became my dissertation, and I continue to continue this research,

11:38

is the importance of the state's basic data, to be improved. I will keep talking about it. Because if the basic data is not accurate, not relevant, then all of these statements, including the DPR loan, cannot be accurately calculated. But, I mean, our data in Indonesia is still messy, you said. So what I do is I will continue to push for the National Accuracy Data System Law.

12:12

That doesn't exist yet. What exists is only the Statistic Law. Statistics is only one of the data analysis. The question is, the statistics that are done by the BPS, what is the basic data?

12:25

Well, that's it.

12:26

With the budget earlier, 6 trillion, exceeding the budget for the workers' protection, yes, the Ministry of Labor 1.3 trillion, the Ministry of Trade 1.4 trillion, and he only shows the results, asking for 3 trillion. In my opinion, I reject the increase.

12:42

Huh? Showing the results, it needs 3 trillion.

12:45

Here, 3 trillion for what? Reallocation, right? The provision and service of statistical information alone must be 3 trillion. The question is 3 trillion with only numbers like this that are described. Do we know for what? Yes, that's the transparency that people are asking about. That's why transparency is not on the surface.

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13:08

But the transparency of the country must start with transparency, not data. Data. Data must involve the people. From the beginning of the data.

13:20

So it's digital.

13:21

Digital.

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It's already open.

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And everyone can access it.

13:24

It's like this. This is what makes the people of the village. Digital means it's open and everyone can access it. This is what makes the villagers fly the drone, then measure it by entering the application, by name, by address, so if I say this, it can be clicked out. Who should receive help? the I can't answer that. I'm asking for your support. I understand. Here. You don't have to show me the data.

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You have to see how it works. The data is what the people need to see. It's digital and open. I'm showing you the digital data. Not everyone has this data. I mean, I'm simple.

14:22

You have to fight for it. I understand. I'm just simple. Where is the website? People can see where the data is. What are the salary and expenses from the DPR? What is the minister like?

14:35

Because transparency like this is not in our country. What is it? Spending, all kinds of things. You know, just the delivery. Well, that's what you know. That's why I support the National Precision Data System Law. Okay.

14:49

Precision data-based development planning system.

14:53

Yes, not just the Commission, but all the commissions, I think.

14:57

This is not my commission. But, in my opinion, this is a moral and constitutional responsibility. That we, if I'm still alive, there is age, there is position. There is age, there is no position, you can't fight for political gain. There is a position, there is no age, you want to make a policy in the cemetery?

15:19

It's impossible, right?

15:20

It can't be either. Okay, hold on, hold on, ma'am. Your anxiety, I want to hear first, as a member of the DPR, were you anxious yesterday, ma'am, seeing the situation in Jakarta?

15:29

People are busy, the doors are not open, are you anxious? Very.

15:34

What are you worried about?

15:35

Well, this shouldn't have happened like this.

15:41

This shouldn't have happened and actually,

15:47

of course, valuable learning is also

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how to communicate better. That's it.

15:51

In my opinion, the way to communicate, to convey an opinion, whatever, whatever our background is, when we become representatives of the people, we are already

16:04

the helpers of the people. we are actually helping the people. We can't use narratives that are words, dictionaries, that are challenging the people. In my opinion, maybe I'm wrong,

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but that's how I see it. So if, for example, it's not that I'm not criticized, it's not that I'm not...

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Yes, it will definitely be criticized. It's impossible to say that.

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And in my opinion, if it being criticized, I'm not... Of course you will be criticized, it's impossible to say that. And in my opinion, if you're being criticized, it means that the people are paying attention to us. If you're not being criticized, it means that the people have forgotten or don't know if they are representatives of the people or not.

16:34

Because for growth, there must be criticism. When you were in the Ministry of Justice, and when you became Mrs. Oneng, it was different, right? The language was different, the attitude was different. You already thought about that from the beginning, right?

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When you first joined in 2009. So, if you ask me, what motivated me to become a DPRK member? Because I also started from an activist in 1995, every day. So, you joined the demonstration, right? Yes, every day.

17:03

Did you throw it away?

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I was beaten on the face Really?

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What for? Probably a provocation

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I used to not have a mental health

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But in my opinion I can do it This is something that I call invisible hand in this action because of course

17:24

People who join the demo must understand, yes, and it doesn't mean you can't demonstrate, you can, but the short story is that becoming a member of the DPR is for me is awareness, I am the choice of my consciousness, I repeat, why at that time I was still in the entertainment world and the netron was hitting and then I held an event, a presenter at one of the private TV stations, then the producer said, are you serious about leaving this comfortable zone. Where you are at the top. Yes, and with all the risks of the DPR like that.

18:07

But in my opinion, it's time, because I feel from a family that is unable. At first. I feel, I know it's not good to be a child of a poor family.

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Okay. So my mother died because she couldn't afford to take her medicine. I know that the life of God is important, but the family must be sad if our parents hospitals, why can't it be in Indonesia? It means there is something that needs to be fixed. So if someone says that the big enemy of this nation is poverty and stupidity. Actually, if I may add, the big enemy is not poverty and stupidity, but poverty and stupidity.

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19:12

Which is done. Poverty and stupidity are structured and it is a system that must be amended. System. System change, transition from a monarchy or the kingdom to democracy is marked by the birth of political parties and there is a representative in parliament. Now, political decisions, wherever you go you will be a police, wherever you go you will be part of the police, not police insurance.

19:40

The police is a country, a Greek city, a Greek city, a Roman city. There is nothing that is not a political decision. We can talk freely, this is a digital public space. Because there is a political decision, there can be no more disclosure. In the past, the tempo was just braided by several media. That's a political decision.

20:01

Even the price of chili is a political decision.

20:04

The price of tea rises or falls is a political decision. Not just the price of chili, it's a political decision.

20:05

The price of UKT goes up or down, it's a political decision. How our citizens become victims of human trafficking, which is getting more and more. That's a political decision. The budget for protection is only 200 billion for the protection of the World Bank, that's a political decision. Walking in the world, that's a political decision.

20:25

Walking in front of your house is a political decision. The cement that is used to build this, whether it's made from national industry cement or foreign cement,

20:34

that's a political decision.

20:36

There's nothing that's not a political decision. Well, a political decision is a legal decision. A legal decision is made in two places, nationally. It involved Istana Merdeka, which is currently the executive,

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the highest level, the president, and his assistants, who are named ministers, and then the DPR in Senayan. These two places. So at that time,

21:03

if it was like this, I wanted to at least no more poor people being rejected from hospitals. I had to go to the DPR.

21:11

What would you do if you were the DPR's chairperson?

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I think... The DPR's chairperson is just a speaker. He's just a speaker. But the decision is not in the DPR's chair a speaker. He's just a speaker. But the decision is not in the hands of the head of the DPR. This also has to be settled. He's the head of the DPR.

21:32

The decision is in every committee. The head of the DPR can't just decide, and then the debt is erased. Without a joint decision between the palace, which is represented by the minister, and the DPR, the parliament in Senayan, is at odds.

21:51

Yes, and so, for example, if you become the head of the DPR, it means you don't have power, right? He's just a speaker as the DPR's secretary. Don't think that this is the head of the DPR, whoever the head of the DPR's leader. Don't think that this is the DPR's leader. Whoever the DPR's leader is, that this system is a collective, collegial, then the leader and the representative of the DPR's leader

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are just a bunch of DPRRI and DPRMP. There is no other authority besides that, ma'am. That's the political system.

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I think I'm like this, I'm the leader. People will think that the leader decides. Yes, we think like that. Hey, committee one, here, committee two, here. Where is this? Like this, like this. Wow, I can't. Come on, everyone, ma'am. That's the leader, right?

22:33

Yes, if you agree, if you don't agree. The others. If you don't agree, I'll be demoted. It can't be lowered because there is a rule, who becomes the leader of the DPR, it is in the MDR3 Law, the MPR Law, DPR and DPD, DPD, DPRD is also there, the winner of the election becomes the leader of the DPR.

23:01

But you can't.

23:02

That's why I want to say something.

23:04

Now, the gate is open, the other commission doesn't be. That's why. What am I supposed to say? Like this, now.

23:05

The gate is open. The other commission doesn't agree. What is this? What if the third commission says no?

23:09

Yes. But what's more important is how this voice becomes a political decision. And political decisions must be made by force of law. By force of law means that political decisions are decided based on the constitution by two parties, namely the constitution by two parties. That is, the Executive, President and his representative, and also the DPR.

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DPRRI for national level. In the region, it's different. The Executive of the region and the DPRD. Don't forget, this is already in the era of regional autonomy. Then the problem of the asset theft law. it's been decades, ma'am. I once heard one of Mrs. Megawati's statements.

23:53

I don't know where I heard this, that Mrs. Megawati said that the law, when she was in office, was already delivered by the president to the DPR itself. But the problem is, they should first improve the legal sector, so that it doesn't become... So, a double-edged sword. That's right. That's what I mean.

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Now, if we want to make everything peaceful,

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that's a job that needs to be done.

24:17

In the body of legislation, it is now being formulated, it has been instructed by the president, and then also communicated by the leaders of the DPR, the chair and the deputy chair, then it is immediately asked to formulate it. So, it can't be done for the discussion of the asset abduction issue.

24:37

In the third committee?

24:38

It was overturned.

24:39

Oh, it was overturned.

24:40

So, it has to be included in the national legislation program.

24:44

Oh, it's long. So, he has to be included in the national legislation program. It's a long time.

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He has to be included in the priority legislation program. He has to be decided through the body of the parliament. The body of the parliament has to be decided in the parliament. This is the stage, don't be angry. This is the stage that has to happen. But can it be accelerated?

24:58

Yes. Yes. It can be accelerated. How many years is the fastest? The fastest is the political decision, which means that there are also fast ones, two weeks, all kinds. Two weeks, ma'am? There are two weeks.

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Which way is that, ma'am? That political decision, in my opinion, needs control from the public, like this. But the public also, don't then, the point is, there must be, no, there is a stage. This normative stage. Because if not, not going through this phase, it can be illegal.

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25:30

It can be a case. Yes, because not going through this phase. The question is, this phase, do you want to make it long or short? That's the political decision.

25:42

And that later...

25:43

Who can do that?

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All the factions in the DPR.

25:47

Who have the power to do that?

25:48

All of them. All of them? If I'm the president, I instruct. It must be completed within a month's time. We are not a parliamentary system. We are a presidential system.

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We don't have a prime minister who is elected by the parliament. We are elected by the parliament. We have a president elected by the people, and there is a political triumph of the division of power, executive, legislative, and unicative. And I said earlier, the DPRK cannot freeze the DPRK. That's the constitution. But then, the important question is, can it be accelerated?

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Yes, it can. If the DPR doesn't work, can the president take a decision? Yes, it can. It's not called the law, it's called the law amendment. But it's the same as the law.

26:45

So it's the right to replace the president, right?

26:46

Yes. So, please, if this is in the... That's why I said, why do I ask for a perpres? Why? The president, in the presidential system, he is the head of state and head of government.

27:01

But that doesn't mean he he is being authoritarian or totalitarian. There is still a control function that has been set up in our Constitution. Can President Jokowi issue a permit several times? If he wants, he can issue a permit. But my advice is that the substance of the law or the law of asset theft must be controlled by the public. Don't then for example there is a clause

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stating that there can be theft without a legal process. According to the Minister of Justice, he said the ROC is faster to complete the theft of faster if there is a consensus from the DPR. So far, has the DPR itself had a consensus or not?

27:49

To be honest, how?

27:51

There is a consensus from the president. Is there a possibility of two options for the rush of asset theft? It can be a PRPU, it can be a law. If you want to form a constitution, then through the process of the National Legislative Program.

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The question is, who can propose a constitution? The one who can propose a constitution is the DPR, of course. Inside it can be the commission, can be the fraction, can be the body, can also be a member of the DPR, of course, can be a commission, a faction, a body, or a member of the DPR. But it can also be from the government. But there is a third important point. It can be proposed by the community.

28:35

Like now, right?

28:36

Proposed by the community, it is put in the ballot box, it is proposed, and then it is decided. Enter the national legislation program or not. And if it's only pro legis, it will never be discussed unless it is included in the national priority legislation program every year.

28:57

So, that's it. So, Kas, do you think I'm a good speaker?

29:00

Okay.

29:01

I want to discuss it right away.

29:02

If so, the 17-8 request, Let's see how long it can take.

29:06

I think we have a chance.

29:08

Yes.

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This process must be accelerated. Immediately take it back, include it, there is a change in the 2014-2029 prolegnas list and a new proposal for the National Priority Legislation Program in 2025. Decide to enter the Asset Stealing RU, which then from the people, say the academic journal and draft the law,

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brought to Paripurna, in Paripurna agreed to be a priority to be discussed. Then it can be discussed. Yes, I want to be a priority to be discussed. Yes, I want to focus on 17 demands and 8. That's it.

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One by one. This is the form of the independent investigation team of the case of Afan Kurniawan Umar Amaruddin and other victims of violence and violations of the law by other authorities during the demonstration of 28 to 30 August. That's the 28th to 30th of August demonstration. That's the 10th Commission.

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The 3rd Commission.

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The 3rd Commission, right?

30:09

So, the representative of the 3rd Commission delivered a note.

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How long is this, ma'am? Well, it will be decided immediately at the 3rd Commission.

30:19

Can it be done quickly?

30:20

Yes, it can be done in a day. The investigation team can do it quickly, right? Yes, they can. They can. Okay. Even the president can decide to form a team.

30:26

So, there is no problem with this, right?

30:28

No, the executive can legislate.

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No problem.

30:31

No problem. The second one.

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I'm the one who said no problem. Yes, we are discussing this so we can learn. to the West. Who is this? There is already a law about the division of tasks between TNI and Polri. Three more committees.

30:50

Three more committees. So, he's going to three more committees.

30:52

Three more committees and one more committee. About security defense.

30:55

So, where does he have to go to these three committees?

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To the first, second, and third committees? No, he can also. He's represented in the third committee. No, it's possible. Like, it was accepted. Yesterday, the leader of the DPR was accepted, Bang Dasko. Later, it was submitted to the related committee. That's why a few days ago, there was a meeting with the chief of TNI in the first committee. And today, if I'm not mistaken, in the third committee, there is also has a meeting on policing. And the third one,

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free all the demonstrators who are detained

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and make sure there is no criminalization of the demonstrators.

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That's the seventh.

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The third commission. This one definitely needs time.

31:38

It can be done quickly. Especially those who, for example, are just making noise. I mean, especially those who only speak up. Like the mother who is detained today. Yes, that's right. The country has...

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Del Pedro, there's Del Pedro too. ...has an intelligent body, right? It can be traced. Did he invite it because of his self-dissatisfaction as a state officer or because he is affiliated with the invader. Invisible hand, whatever.

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But, Punten, in urgent matters, there is a discrecy. Discrecy can be done when looking at an impossible situation or maybe it has to be that are impossible or that require a quick decision. It's the president's job, right? Yes, there's a force majeure where the president is the head of state and the head of government.

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I think, in essence, we have too many laws. The problem is whether they are implemented or not. And whether they are implemented or not. So that the monitoring and evaluation is correct, including the budget policy from the birth of the laws that caused the policy and program.

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Yes, ma'am. Want to add 100 more laws? If not implemented, it is useless, right? And there is no monitoring mechanism. And there is no discipline. So if asked ...

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There is no discipline. So if you ask... There is no control.

33:05

If you ask, it's also crowded. The condition to be a member of the DPR must have the right to vote. Then, you have to...

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33:13

If you are a mother, you have passed, right?

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No, I didn't.

33:15

Oh, I read that a lot.

33:17

You like to be humble. No, not like that. But according to... This is my opinion. The most important thing from being a representative of the people, to be a civil apparatus of the country, the most important thing that must be possessed is the heart. If you are a representative of the people, you have to have a heart for the people.

33:34

If you are an ASN, a bureaucrat, you have to have a heart to be a public servant. And you have to follow all the laws. Ma'am, if a DPR officer then he is flexing his property, does he have a heart? I'm I mean, it's okay if it's safe, I accept it. No, I can't say that. Because you said you represent yourself as a member of the DPR,

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you can't represent 580 people.

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But as a member of the DPR, we have a personal responsibility. And if I always feel, not only the promise to the people, but also to God, I am a Muslim, to Allah, subhanahu wa ta'ala, this can't be as good as it should be. Right. Don't always on one side always exaggerate this country is a divine country like Maesa,

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but on the other side we normalize, normalize actions that actually do not depict the divine Maesa. Including then we assume things that are normal about the occurrence of violence

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not only by the state's state officials, but also for the prison guards, it still cannot be allowed. That is called the benelity of evil. The evil that comes from the thoughtlessness.

34:55

Yes, I understand. There is another demand, ma'am. Stop the violence by the police

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and the SOP, the time control that has been established. It means going back to the law, the rules.

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It's not a problem, right? If I look at it, the biggest problem is the lack of ownership of the property of the member of the DPRK who is in trouble by the KPK.

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It's a must.

35:17

Then... But until people who are indicated to play a safe budget, for example, with everything that there is a wrong gesture or communication by our friend, Mas Uya, but then there is a prison and it is considered something normal, he is only 10 months in the DPR and the house is not the result of the DPR.

35:41

Yes, if history is like this.

35:42

It's the same as this house, actually you are not from the DPR. Yes, I'm from from the DPR. It's the same as this house. Actually, you're not from the DPR. Yes, I'm from Paran. It's the same as my house. I'm not from the DPR. It's from the results of our work as entertainers. By chance, you're here with Mas Wia. When the dance happened, were you there?

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I was. Where were you? I can't see you honestly, because you're not on camera, do you dance? I really don't dance because I just finished boxing at home while dancing.

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No, that's not what I mean.

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But is there any shaking like this?

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No, I don't think so. So this is considered, people like this, DPR, even dance. Hold on, because I'm very careful. That's my thesis, ma'am. This is my thesis. So here's the thing.

36:28

I've heard the explanation from the patient yesterday. I know when you finally said that the DPR should put their language more so that the language doesn't hurt the heart. Gestures and speech. But when there is a narration that leads to the end of the sentence.

36:49

Whatever it is, it will still be wrong. It will still be the same side.

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If you are in that position, you can be framed, it's wrong.

36:56

It's the same. And I lost Uya. Uya is my partner in the 9th Commission

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to advocate cases of human trafficking. Mas Uya is my partner in the 9th Commission

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to advocate cases of human trafficking and health problems. Mas Eko, of course, we often interact because I am a member, Mas Eko is the current chairperson and we have been in the 6th Commission for a long time. Mas Eko is a sincere person,

37:24

he is indeed a bit of a jerk, not for defense. I'm I want to tell you about the Bang Juri case. I was very supported by Mr. Eko. Land claims and several cases, dismantling the mafia of food, dismantling the mafia of timber, as a leader, including the one who gave us space for the big cases, including Pertamina.

38:04

The one from yesterday?

38:05

Yes. Mr. Eko never limited us in talking in the trial, in all kinds of things. He gave us a space. So, there are pluses and minuses. I think we can't

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beat them all. Meanwhile, there are other big corruption cases where people also... I don't tell people to burn their houses, for example. The point is, from all our long discussions, once again, thank you for all the input and criticism. Earlier, 17 plus 8.

38:40

No, I haven't read 8 yet. In a year. There are a few things. This 17th is September 5th. Today is the day.

38:47

It has to be fulfilled. I think it has been explained enough, including the responsibilities of the leaders of the DPR, the chairperson and the representative. And actually they are just the members of the DPR and the decision is still in each committee.

39:07

And when it's our responsibility as members, especially in our own committees, I also once again feel sorry for everyone. I was really hurt because of that. I was the head of the Workers' Confederation. Those who work, including those who including the staff in Makassar.

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In Makassar, there are four people. If I'm not mistaken, I'm also a worker in the ASN. We fought together to establish the P3K as a state's chief executive, not honorary. And I was sick. I was sick because I was busy with things like that. But other than that, let's start. I agreed, I talked about it yesterday.

40:04

This is Indonesia's reset. I have agreed to that. I spoke about it yesterday.

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40:07

This is Indonesia's reset. Back to zero kilometers of Indonesia. Which improvement is our priority? Once again, at this time, what is also worrying is the budget policy of 3 billion. 3 billion.

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Money. All of my friends. Yes, but if the law... 3 trillion, and I think, I really hope that we can, in this working period, on this working day, we can continue to hold a marathon,

40:36

because last week was postponed, for us to be able to monitor where the important budgets were, where they should be allocated, and I mentioned earlier, where the important budgets are, where they should be allocated. And I mentioned earlier that the solution to the country's finances can't just be debt and raising the people's taxes.

40:52

Correct our trade management.

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The people can't die, ma'am.

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Our trade system must be correct, the budget policy must be correct.

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I agree with that.

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Then, if we may, I voiced earlier when I received received friends who are activist Medsos 17 plus 8, I specifically asked for support. This one has been explained earlier, where the channel goes, which one can be president directly, which one is the DPR, where is the DPR, I think it's clear enough, we talk. But please help, add the demand, reject. Stop increasing the price of staple food. Don't increase the highest price of food. No more imports of food produced in Indonesia.

41:35

Our sugar factory will soon be closed. The reserve can be more than 2.6 trillion, 2.6 million tons of sugar produced by farmers and also our sugar industry. But if we import it again, it's a disaster. The same goes for rice. The 2024 import is about to freeze.

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It's not used.

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It's not used and not distributed.

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Yes, it's imported all the time.

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Why do you keep importing? I'm thinking, I want to ask for a reverse proof. Is it when the import there is a success fee? I feel there is a fee

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under the table or under... Feel it, yes. That's just an indication. But the most important thing is that there is no time left and now the president is meeting with the leaders of the countries that are also important in my opinion in a situation like this.

42:36

In a situation like this, national consolidation is important, but the diplomatic relationship and meeting with Russia, China, and other important countries, in my opinion, is also the right step for the President to have a cooperation, including security defense, can strengthen each other. President Xi Jinping in his speech yesterday said that a big nation is a nation that cannot be intimidated by others, by the outside. And I also want to add that Xi Jinping's speech, a big nation cannot be intimidated by the outside, but also a nation that does not intimidate its own people.

43:28

Exactly.

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And if possible, social media should be used as a tool of struggle. What kind of struggle? I always use hashtags. This is a discussion. Please help share the hashtag APBN for the people. Then, there were some legal regulations.

43:56

Let it be the law, make it fast.

43:58

Then, the law on the system of national precision data, or make it fast because everything is driven by data. There is no life that is not driven by data. And data is filled with numbers and also there is data analysis and so on. But in principle, behind the numbers in the country's data

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there is the fate of millions of people and there is a fate about this nation. Data leakage is not something that can be considered as a piece of cake.

44:29

Yes, that's right.

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Weakening a nation is no longer using a system that is jodering. The data is erased, all policies are distorted through fake data, and that's it.

44:39

Yes, that's the hardest part, Ma'am.

44:41

Then, the most important thing is to ensure fair price for platform workers protection. Singapore just issued a platform workers bill last year. Malaysia just issued a gig workers bill a few days ago. or Act, the law on platform workers. This is important because there is a shift in the type of work and the meaning of the workforce which is mediated by digital. But this is a worker,

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it doesn't mean that they don't work.

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Yes, but it's digital.

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YouTube is a job.

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Yes, digital only.

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Digital, but platform work.

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A new job, in a way. Yes, there are a few people who are working as... ...people's livelihood, as workers.

45:27

But is there any protection from the state? No. When there is this content, it can be directly sued. And then, do they then enter the rights of workers with social security and all kinds of things?

45:43

No. Yes, the protection we get is from the platforms

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depending on whether the boss is good

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each platform

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yes, I hope you are a good boss yes, each platform well, Punten, I want to add, for the lazy ones, this is from me personally, I am here to control the laziness, can I not cut the ass, yes, I see it, it seems that these humans don't have a heart I think that's what's important, especially for online objects that are vulnerable.

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46:10

So I think that in the middle of all of this, 17.8% is important. But don't forget that there are other issues that we have to take care of, including victims of sexual violence that happened not only in private but also in public. Now it has mutated into digital. They are handling a child whose photo was photoshopped using AI. Then it was distributed. I think that's also sexual violence.

46:41

I agree. I think protection for women and children is one of my concerns, including others. But in my opinion, if I see everyone is afraid to take a role, they are afraid of making mistakes.

46:56

Fear is just an illusion.

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But illusion works for many people out there. Are we going to be an illusion society? That's what I said. This is a democratic government. There are a lot of viewers. Let's get out of that fear. As a representative of the people, I'm only afraid when the people are poor and there is no change.

47:17

I'm afraid. Why do I sometimes refuse to raise taxes? I shout alone in Paripurna. There are a few things I had to... It's okay. It's a risk for the people. I could be sued in court, for example.

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Because I was considered a provocateur for refusing to raise taxes. Because I was the one who dismantled a big case in a port, which was at a loss at the time. The future value was up to 39 trillion.

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I faced it. I was in the middle. There was nothing I was afraid of. Besides this position, there was no meaning. The position was not taken seriously, in my opinion. If it's Nissan, there's no such thing. For example,

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Only the strip. If you are a DPR member, you will be in trouble. For example, Denso in Nissan, DPR members, there is no such thing.

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But in digital, there is. Now Nissan is not too digital, it's digital. I see the biggest problem from the impact of this demonstration, besides what we talked about earlier and there are still other things, is the communication factor. The communication is not working and the communication bridge is broken.

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Meaning, from the DPR itself or the state. And also all the officials. For example, yesterday one of the ministers said, becoming a teacher is a noble job, not to make money. If you want to make money, just be a trader.

48:46

Don't do that, please. Don't do that, please. Don't do that. Or people die, I don't know, I'm sleepy. Don't do that, please.

48:55

Oh my God. Don't do that. That's all. Including my critics, Bang Densu already has my number, WA, don't say this, you're annoying.

49:06

It's okay, W.A. Critical. Maybe in this twist of life, sometimes we also say, what's the problem? Yes, whatever. But convey it in a polite way.

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Because I see, the criticisms of freedom of speech in this day and age are not conveyed in a civilized way. What is it? Provocation. When there is a difference, we talk about it. Don't use provocative language.

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Because what is it? It is a distortion. This distortion is what Invisible Hand wants to take advantage of to make us a mess. Soekarno once said, our ancestors are not from outside, but from within ourselves.

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