Pasé de víctima a sospechoso y mi hija sigue desaparecida | Bruno #Penitencia 174 #testimonio

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Stories that are hard to tell, but that are very necessary to hear. This episode is one of them. We will talk about the case of Yamilet, a missing girl a couple of years ago in circumstances that are still unresolved. Her name, her absence and the tireless search remind us that behind every figure

there is a broken family that is still waiting for answers. We met Bruno in prison, where he faced a process that, from from the beginning was full of irregularities, full of contradictions and also false statements. Weeks later, we saw him again, this time with Wendy, his wife, in the place they built now turned into a home arresting space. This episode is not about judging or pointing out the guilty. It's about understanding, listening, giving voice to a story that hurts,

but also reveals how, in the midst of pain, a family continues to fight to find the truth. Because at the center of everything, beyond files, statements, or suspicions, is her, Yamilet. And while there is no justice for her,

the story cannot be closed. In the same way, we are going to listen to her lawyer so that we can understand a little more about what is happening in this case, why and how both parents were deprived of their freedom and today in house arrest. This chapter is difficult, it is deep, but it is also very, very painful. Above all, it is a reminder of why we do penance, to hear what hurts, to question what is silent,

and to always seek the justice that is missing. It's also important that you know that we are going to share the Amber Alert by Yamilet, because while there are two people, their parents, accused of having disappeared her. Today, we do not know the whereabouts.

And perhaps, with the help of the Penitentiary Community, we can find her. Because her return, her well-being, is the most important thing. Thank you. Thank you for listening to Penitentiary. Subscribe, like, because every time a story like this is heard, something changes. Mexico moves.

Let's keep opening spaces for truth, justice and hope. Bruno, welcome to Penitencia. Hello. A complicated case, yours. I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to go ahead and say,

I'm going to go ahead and say, where your daughter disappeared. How was your family? Tell me a little about the context in which you lived.

Well, we lived in a town called and it's a land that my dad had lent us. It was just starting to be built. It was not two rooms, it still had the roof of the mine. I mean, it was just starting to rise.

How old were you?

Well, we were 21. So, I say 21, 24, forgive me. So, for us, we were starting on something of our own. My dad told us, you know what? You're not paying rent,

you're not going anywhere. Stay there and start... Getting up. Getting up, right? Your family will be there. Okay.

That house, well, we had lived there for a while when we were younger. So we had that fraternity with that house. And we said, we're going to build it. It's going to be for us.

And there we were, my wife, Wendy, me, my brother, a 15-year-old brother, and my two girls. And I worked at that time with my dad. We did maintenance. For example, once we, industrial ships. We always weathered, painted, depending on what was needed. Maintenance in general.

More or less, that was our job. My parents lived there in... So we used to go to the newspaper, we were going to work. I left my wife at home and I would go. There were times when the trips could last a week, ten days, one day at night and then go back.

It varied. My times varied.

So you went to other states?

Yes, depending. For example, they marked, you don't know what this is, in Hidalgo. There are going to be some warehouses, but we needed to put up the lamina and put up the lights, and they didn't have anything to do. We were going there. And obviously, so we wouldn't have to come and spend money, we stayed there. And even, well, all of us who were going there were my brother, who I'm telling you about,

me, my dad, and maybe, well, there were times when even my mom was going. So it was more like a family thing. We wanted to stay together and help each other out.

How old were you when you started dating Wendy?

I started dating her when I was 17.

When I was 17.

You were both 17? Yes.

Because you got pregnant?

Yes, exactly. We had been dating for a couple of years now, but when I was 17, it started there. The more we got together, the more she went to my house, I went to hers, and we stayed there.

How did you find out she was pregnant?

It was very funny because I was going on a trip to Acapulco, and I was going to take on a trip to Acapulco and I was going to take her and she said, no, I can't.

Why?

No, I can't. I said, but we're going to go, I'm going to invite you, I'm going to pay and we're going to go. No, no, no, I have news for you. But what news? When you come back I'll tell you. But you're not going to go?

No, I'm not going. I left the trip and I thought, why not? Why not? Why not? When I come back, I'm going to see her. I say, hey, what's up? Why didn't you want to go? What a bad mood.

You see how we had been. No, no, no. I also have a surprise for you. And I, surprise, yes. And she gives me a box, like a toothbrush, wrapped in a bow. I said, what is this? Open it.

And when I opened it, it was a pregnancy test. I was positive and she said, look. I was cold. I didn't know what to say, if it was good or not. How do you think? She said, yes. I said, are you going to be a father?

I said, poof.

And in those times, I just dedicated myself to work for myself. I dressed myself, I went, I came back for her. I mean, I didn't have, as my mother-in-law told me, I didn't have anything. And that's how I heard the news about my first baby girl. And obviously, I didn't have the resources at that time, to be able to take her out of her house and take her away

or start doing something good. I had to go to the district. I went with some cousins and they told me, you know what, let's help you find a job. I was just 18 years old, I had just received my ID. I went to a pizzeria, Little Caesar.

I got there and they gave me the job. What I cared about was the insurance. The insurance for there. I started working there.

So that you could get rid of it.

Exactly. Yes, because that's what they told me. Where was I going to pay the birth, what was I going to do and everything. And obviously they questioned me, even their relatives. Their mom, their dad, their relatives. So I said, no, I do want to be with her,

I do want to be responsible, I'm not going to leave her, as they told me. And when I got there to work, I got there washing the dishes, washing dishes and sweeping, the year from there, they gave me the opportunity

and I was already the head of the floor. I had already been sent to training to one of the school stores. So they gave me a little more salary, I already had a little more benefits. I mean, I was a little more comfortable.

And by the time she was going to be released, I already had where to take her. I went to her house, her mom. You know what? I'm going to take her to. I went to her mother's house. You know what? I'm taking her. I'm taking her to the district hospital. To a hospital in...

What's it called? Politecnico Avenue?

Yes.

I'm taking her to get released. I was nervous. I didn't know what to do. They told me to take this and the other one. What do I do? Buy this, buy that.

No, I said yes. No, she was the first girl, she didn't know anything. I remember I bought like 10 packages of diapers for newborns and they'd tell me, no, what did you do? No, I bought diapers, so they wouldn't be missing. I was only going to use like a package and a half.

Really? Yes, you were going to grow up fast. So, yes, no. That was my experience with my princess, my first baby girl.

How were the first few months with your little girl?

Well, it was a very strange feeling, it was not having my burden, something so small. And then when she was born, she had gray eyes, like, I don't know, like, her eyes were gray. Like, I don't know, like... Yes, gray. My mom told me that when I was born, my eyes were gray. So I saw her and said,

Oh, I take out my eyes, I take out my eyes. And I just saw her. No, no, no. I was very excited. Don't touch her, don't move her, let her be here. No, well, it was another thing. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. We have a picture on Facebook, it's one of the photos from the memory, where she is still just relieved and we were painting Rosa's room. Two paintings, it's one of the pictures we have on Facebook. And it's even on my daughter's first day, there in the district.

What was your relationship with Wendy like?

Well...

And how did it evolve? in the district. How was your relationship with Wendy? Well... And how did it evolve? Well, it was a relationship, or is a relationship, like all of them, with ups and downs. Because since we met, we loved each other a lot. And I love you, and I give everything for you,

and you are my life, and also me, and I'm going to do everything possible. And if you don't want us to be together, then we'll go and see what we do. My daughter's thing happened, and no, well, together, it was already the other thing, right? We both did what we wanted, we were with her.

I mean, it was already very different, it was very cool, I was growing up in that aspect. I worked for the house, and he stayed there, took care of the girl. And we started to... to realize how things were to live together. It wasn't the same anymore.

Suddenly, he would say, Hey, why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do the other one? Oh, no, I was taking care of the girl. Oh, okay, fine. Or suddenly, hey, why don't we cook? Better take us to that side.

Oh, okay. We don't have to eat, we'd better go to the other side. Okay. So we started to realize that everything was a little bit more different. Suddenly his mom called him, how are you? How are you? Well, good. Sure? Well, it's just that then suddenly he scolds me for this or that.

Oh no, daughter, you can do whatever you want. So if you're not okay with him, I this so it's the way you want it, or do it this way so you can do things the way you like. And that's how it started. There was a time when he got angry, he got upset about the job,

because I had to stay at work, there were months when I had to leave at 2 or 1 in the morning, and come back at 1 in the morning. And come back at like 7 in the morning. So I was like, fuck, I'm going to leave and come back and take a shower. I was staying at a hotel across the street. I was like, no, I'm staying here.

I'm staying. If you want, you can come back later. And we'll see each other, we'll have breakfast. Now I have to go. The shift is going to end at 3. No, pues que va. Y su mamá le decía, no, no, no, no te quedes ahí, que no sé qué tanto. El rollo que se fue, se fue a su casa de su mamá otra vez. Y se iba, regresaba.

O sea, se peleaban fuerte.

No, no, no fuerte, sino era como... Siempre fue nuestro rollo estar dándole como lo que querían a tanto a su familia como a la mía. I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like, no, because I just said, no, I just can't, don't let yourself be sad for him. Don't let yourself do this. And she said, no, that's true. She said, my mom, boom, yeah.

No, and she said, no, don't worry about it. Don't look for her, she'll figure it out. Why? Because obviously I didn't's going to work, I'm the one who's going to teach, I'm the one who does this, I'm the one who's going to work. And they told me, you're going to realize, you're going to realize that at some point it's not like that, that you're going to have to work, you're going to have to do this, you're going to have to do that. And that's how it happened. I would say, come back, no one told you to leave. Your home will always be here. No, what is it?

And again, and so on. That's why I tell you, with her it has been, within all the relationships that I think we've had, it has been the strongest. Because we are always there,

no matter what happens, or she tells me or I tell her, and everything has always been very strong. In that aspect I feel it that way.

Did you have another baby? Another girl? How many years later?

Well, we had my baby. I'm telling you that my baby was already about three years old. About three years. Yes.

Was it planned?

Well, between yes and no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And then he gave up. Oh, no, that's great. Fuck, the same thing again. Going back to when I was pregnant, and cravings, and I want this and I want that. That was also very nice. And they were always girls.

They were my two puppies. They are my two puppies.

How did you develop your personal attitude? Did you stay working at Little Caesars or did you move to another place?

I went to work at different places. That was what I had. There were times when I didn't feel comfortable there or I wasn't being favorable, so to speak. I wanted to earn more or do something, and I didn't stand a chance. I got out of there, I went to work at a workshop, a family workshop,

of mechanics. It was a little better, because obviously, as I was a relative, I already had a little accessibility in the subject of schedules. So, and there I could go to the workshop, or, hey, what do you think? I'm going out, I'm going for the girl, I'm going for her, I'm going to pick her up.

Ah, ok, go, no, nothing happens. And it was fine, because I also worked in mechanics, and suddenly they tell me, no, you know what, hey, you have to take the door off that car, change it. I had more accessibility, I could generate more. And for me it was perfect. I was what I did.

I was there, I changed jobs several times, but I was always there.

Tell me about the day your daughter disappeared. What happened that day?

That day I came back from work. That day I was going on a trip with my dad and my brother. I don't remember very well if we were going to Querétaro, but we were going to go out. I left early with the van from home. I passed by, in the corner of my house there was a...

A guy who was a friend, right?

Ha!

I'm sure he was a friend. And I passed by and I told him I'd see him the next weekend because I was going on a trip. He said, what? You're leaving?

I said, yes, I'm leaving.

He said, ok, see you later. I said, ok, see you later. I got home in Papua. I picked him up with the truck, we loaded the material, the paint brush, the waterproofing, and we set off. We hit the highway. We couldn't go back or forward.

We had to go back, pushing the truck to Tecama. There was a mechanic. I got there, angry, walking. I was walking home and I saw all these, all these friends, supposed friends, in the corner.

Drinking?

Yes, they were drinking. Nothing out of the ordinary, just something normal.

Did you like the party?

I won't deny it, yes, we drank every weekend, we went to the games, we had beers, we played cards, games and we get the beers, and we get a card and this and that. And that day, just as I see them, they tell me, what's up? Come out. It's the party, or it's the birthday of one of the wives or girlfriend of one of them.

Oh, well, what is it? I get home, I say, just give me a chance to get there first. I say, because the truck broke down and I didn't get to work. Let me let you know. And now I'm going to see what's up and if we do, we'll go out. No, well, I got there and told Wendy. I told her, how are you? What happened? What was I going to do?

No, it broke down. This happened and this happened. How do you think? No, well, yes. And then I don't know when the truck is going to buy something to eat. But what do you mean they're out there? If you want to go celebrate, it's that guy's birthday. You say that tomorrow the girl has to go to school. And my daughter says, yes, dad, you're not going to work. No, tomorrow I'll take you, daughter.

Yes, dad, I don't know. How old was she? Five. Five years old. Now she's in kindergarten. And they told me, let's go to the corner store,

so they don't see us, and obviously they don't think that they were made a fool of or that we were bad. So, we went to buy dinner and we went back home.

We had dinner,

we were there with my brother. A neighbor came, a neighbor in front, a neighbor. He went with my brother too. We were watching TV, all there. My daughter was already lying down. My wife too.

My neighbor told me, you know we're leaving. No, be careful, I'm going out with my brother. I'll stay with her, my brother will come back. And that's it, let's go to sleep. No, yes. I'm going to sleep with her, I'm going to go back to my brother. And she said, no, let's go to sleep. We put the TV on.

As soon as I fall asleep, you turn it off. And I stayed. And my daughter tells me, can I sleep with you? I say, no, sleep in your bed. Dad says the girl is sleeping now. Because I was with my other daughter.

I was hugging her and I'll stay with you. Well, it's okay, dad. He passed. We fell asleep. The night passed. I woke up, my wife woke me up.

And she says, Bruno, Bruno. I'm still here. What happened? They were going to be like six and a30, it was going to be 7, that the girl would come in at 7.15 at school. I got up and I said, Bruno, Bruno, the girl.

But I didn't understand very well what was happening. I turned around and I was looking for my little girl. I see her next to me and I say, what happened? Because Juanito said the girl wasn't there? She told me the girl wasn't there and I said, but... and I see her next to me and I'm like, what? and she said, yes, my LED is gone

so I go, what do you mean the girl isn't there? I get up and she says, the door was open and I thought it was the dog we had a boxer dog but then she got in the middle of the night and since the door was made of wood, you could push it and it would go in. It didn't have a lock or anything? It had a metal lock.

Yes.

The house was barely under construction, the windows were made of wood.

But did you lock it with a key before you slept?

No, it only had the lock inside. When we left, we had to put a chain through the door, like a lock. Like that. Imagine, the dog would get in but obviously we already had the dog we were seeing a skeleton

we never had the reason to worry because we had lived there for a long time and the neighbors knew us and in the same way there was nothing behind it was like 200, 300 meters of just dirt and mud. Until we got to a pantheon.

And from there, it was the highway. On the other side, a road just like this one. Pure milpa. There was nothing. So, it was always like this. The only safety we put on when we left.

It was when we closed the house. They were going to get us and take what little was left. For this occasion, it was not just the metal metal gate, but when my wife tells me, she says, the girl is not there. I get up and I see that she goes to the bathroom,

goes to the kitchen and she tells me, no, the girl is not there. I was already putting on my sneakers, I'm I run to the back of the house, through the mesh. What do I do? I wake up my brother. What's up?

Hey, man, what's up?

And he had some headphones on and he was in shock. I wake him up. What's up, brother? The girl, which girl? The girl. Run.

And I told this friend to talk to him, who lived on two streets, in a corner, and he had a car. So I told him, go running and tell him to come and bring his car, I need it. Well, at that moment I didn't know how to do it or what to do, rather. So all I did was run to the pantheon, run to the exit of the highway.

In fact, over there it was very, very common that in certain seasons the mothers would tell you, no, to be careful with the kids when they're playing because they're walking around here. I came back and when I came back the neighbors were there. What happened? What happened? It's my daughter this. Other mothers also come down, who were now my daughter's companions. What happened? What is this? What is the other? What do we do? We all started running everywhere trying to find out if they had already found something or saw something. A neighbor. No, yes, I saw a guy who passed with a bicycle.

Where? And there they all ran where the bicycle ran. I saw a guy with a bike, where to? And they were all running to where the bike was going. Another one, I saw the one with the sheep. I saw a guy with a car, where to? Everyone was trying to find him everywhere until the officers arrived.

They asked me what happened, and I said,

Did your friend bring the car?

No, it's one of the things that later on I started to connect, to get out of context.

So he didn't make you the stop?

No. Supposedly, he was almost my brother. Because yes, he did, but I was walking. So obviously, when I sent him to talk and say, hey, what happened to this? You wait, I'll give you an answer. No, no, you know what I'm talking about?

My brother comes, my dad comes, what do we do?

How, right?

I was walking, as if nothing. What happened? What do you mean, what happened? What happened to this, brother? I put it in, I kept it. I have it in the back. Hey brother, I need to see how we do it. Talk to so and so, tell them to come and help me. The more we are, the better.

But how was it? I don't know, brother, I have no idea. I got up, this happened, and from there I'm talking to you, so I don't know anymore. Let me see.

At the time I said, what a bad thing, why doesn't he want to support me? I started running, I started everything, we kept looking. The officers had already arrived. I was already with them going around the house. They asked me, hey, but do you feel bad? No, how do I feel bad? I'm taking the shit, I don't know what to do.

I don't know, what's up? No, me refiero que si no tienes algún sintoma. ¿Síntoma de qué? ¿Te duele la cabeza? ¿No te sientes mareado? ¿Por qué? Me sonó un poco raro. Me dijo otro oficial, es que les avientan o les ponen, no sé qué chingado humo líquido, no sé.

Se en las casas y se meten. Y yo le digo, entonces, ¿esto, o sea, cómo? I don't know how he told me the name. When they come, they will ask you some questions. And you will tell them all this. They started to check the windows. And they tell me, all your windows are like this.

How were the windows? The windows were made of wood. They did not have glass. They were glass ule. And they were covered with that ule. It was wood and glass.

Those were the windows, our windows. So they tell me, something happened, because neither you, nor your wife, nor your brother saw anything. I tell them, how are you doing? I know it sounds very strange, but I don't know what happened. I tell them, now, the dogs are out there.

Why didn't they make a noise? I have no idea. I mean, there's the dog, here are the neighbors. They say they didn't see anything either. At the time, I already knew, I said, well, how, how?

They told me it was someone, it was someone close. But right now that you're going to put your statement, you give all this we're telling you. Well, what do I do? all this that we are telling you, right? When they take us to Temazcalapes, they tell us, you know what? They take my wife first and they still leave me there.

I went with one of the neighbors to see that he had a camera about 100 meters away, a little far away, but I went to tell him, hey, don't be a bad guy, let me see your camera, point it at the bench, what can be seen. I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get the, I'm gonna get the,

I'm gonna get the,

I'm gonna get the,

I'm gonna filing a complaint because this happened and this and this and this Don't play dumb It happened, they took me to *** and they started asking me the same thing Boom, boom, boom But as if you were him Exactly, but it's not like that, we are filing a complaint because I don't know what happened

I really don't know what happened I don't know what happened. I mean, I really don't know what happened. No, I don't believe you. You did something. That day they went to the house, they took pictures of him. My dad is a believer in the Holy Death.

So he had a Holy Death up there in the refrigerator. An altar, so to speak. They were talking to each other. No, he has a Holy Death. Look, they take the photo, hidden satanic.

And other officers tell me, no, it's just that there is no other, calm down, they are doing it for this and for that. Others already arrived and told me, no, how not, you are going to see and I will give you. They arrived as from different groups,

because I see them from different. And let's see, and we were all there, my wife, me, my brother, the neighbor, the friend, the relative, we were several up there for the same reason, because they had told us all to come and declare and at the same time stay all everyone started to tell us to get involved in everything, so I obviously started to talk to them, this, this, this, who do you owe it to, what could you do, but why, Well, this, this, this. I don't owe money, I don't owe this. And then he said, no, it's just that

there was a first investigation folder that was moved, I don't know how it was, but they moved it again. Because that day they were getting me and my wife and my brother, who had found us, well, all of us, We were in a car, intoxicated, and that's where the officers realized that the girl was not there.

I said, it's not true, I came like this, like this, like this. No, no, I didn't know, I don't know how much. It caused me a lot, because I said, but why are you doing this? I mean, why are you turning the situation around like that? If it wasn is like you are commenting, let's see, here it is.

No, no, no, I don't know what. Our lawyer was that occasion. I don't know, the truth is, I don't know very well what a protection has been made. I remember it was a protection, I don't remember how it was called that occasion,

but they let us out. me know as a occasion but I don't say

Manuel bienvenido a peritencia gracias por estar aquí pero más que nada gracias por defender a Wendy y a Bruno quienes están pasando la duro no por decir de alguna manera como como llega este manual este caso a ti How does this case come to you, Manuel? About three years ago, I was informed by Bruno and Wendy's relatives that they were detained at the agency of the Public Ministry due to the disappearance of their daughter. Unfortunately, due to the stigmas that the prosecution has, the judges and the social prosecution,

the first act that represents for them the disappearance of the girl is the fault of their parents. They do not treat it as a matter that can effectively represent the loss of a child, but they blame them. When they report the loss of the girl and go to the Otumba prosecutor's office, in the Otumba prosecutor's office, instead of giving them the treatment of victims, the first thing they do is arrest them.

And when they arrest them, they have them in the agency the public ministry agency for a period of five days, deprived of their freedom, without legal assistance, and derived from various folders for crimes that were invented at that time, so that they could not have communication with the other alleged people who were linked to the disappearance of the girl. Unfortunately, that makes their relatives have to look for us, and as a consequence of this, our intervention in the legal field begins to be able to limit that affectation to the rights they were carrying out, especially to seek the purpose of finding their daughter and that they could be free because they had not committed any act because they had to be detained in the public ministry.

The story of the family

They let us go out of here to the bars. Oh, everyone has already left. We had all left, everyone talking to the families. What happened? This, this, this. But what's up, guys? How was it? I don't know. I don't know.

I have no idea how it happened. And they talk to us again. Come on, did you forget to sign a paper? Back again. We spent a little while there.

Let's go.

Back. They lock us up again and boom, boom, everyone, including my brother, I know he was younger. They go inside. No, but what happened now? Again and again, and another letter, another...

Folder.

Another folder, for this and for this, and for this and for this, and a bomb comes out. There, in fact, they were taking us to certify in the early morning. They took us out from the back of the public ministry. They took us out from the back in a private truck, apparently. And one of the relatives of this one realized.

He was in a motorcycle and he realized that several people came out of the truck. He went following them, we were the ones. They took us to certify, this is a pango. They arrived at the certification supposedly to tell us how we were, they put it there that we were intoxicated, that, I mean, the worst. Sign it. No, but why am I going to sign it if they are not doing anything, they just put my fingerprints there. No, sign it. But why? Sign it.

Fuck. Sign. Your hands, both. To all. Boom, boom, boom, boom, así.

Y todos firmaron?

Todos tuvimos que firmar. Nada más era un novio de ningún familiar, no había nadie, porque la persona esta que se quiso adelantar por alcanzarnos, se bajó otra oficial,

no sé qué le dijo, y lo regresaron. Se pararon, dieron una vuelta en una gasolinería They stopped us at a gas station and took us to the other side. They just didn't want us to follow them. So, obviously, they took us and they'll be back later. But we were already certified, according to this.

So, we stayed there. We were 48 more. They were already telling me, what do you think? That we found a body. What do you think? We found a body. What do you think?

A body.

In such a place, it's like a library. There was a body. Who do you think? No, no, no, no, it can't be. No, no, no. Well, I cut myself off.

And they started telling me, these guys I was with. They said, no, calm down, calm down. It wasn't like that. No, you know, the girl is fine. You'll see that the girl is fine. No, it's not my mother, my daughter.

No, no, no, no. My wife on the other side, on the other cell listening. No, it can't be like that. No, not like that. They arrive at night and he says, no, it wasn't. Where are you? You, one of those who was with me. What were you doing outside his house yesterday?

Between such and such, between, I think it was like 12 at night and 3 in the morning. What were you doing outside his house? And his answer was, no, well, I can be wherever I want in the town.

The traffic is free. At the time, I didn't take it differently. I said, no, it's depending on what they're telling us. They're not implying anything. Okay, you can go wherever you want. What are you doing in the pantheon?

I went to visit one of my dead. That's how I mentioned it. I went to visit one of my dead. Damn.

Who?

My grandmother. Now you really love your grandmother. Yeah, I do. And after that, where did you go? And she says, well, up there.

Where up there?

And she says, do you know a guy named Sleepy? And I said, yeah, I know that guy, I don't know very well in those times, but I suppose that guy was the one who moved the material around the area.

You know what they said.

The vice.

So they tell this guy, from his house to the pantheon, and from the pantheon to that guy's house. And that's what the officer told us. Think about it. He left.

He left me like that, and I told him, I told him, you bastard, you had something to do with it, I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna take your shit here. Where's my daughter? No, man, these guys don't love us like that. Where's my daughter? We're going to get caught. We're going to get caught. We're going to get caught.

We're going to get caught. We're going to get caught. We're going to get caught. We're going to get caught. I'm going to get in trouble with my papers. How am I going to do it? No, yes, already screwed.

So, he was, you know, that you get it and that it's going to give you a motorcycle, some screens and it's going to change it. Think about it, dude. No, well, have it as a service, yes, but no, I'm the one responsible. They're going to fall with me, they're going to hit me. I'm going to dance on the rock. Like, no, you can't. So, those had been previous messages.

That guy from the slip-it had also had problems with my brother. He had threatened him. For whatever reason, because my brother was walking around the town, and he didn't feel like weren't even touching him. And they told me, no, it's because of you. And I was like, what?

And they told me, well, you have to pretend to be Bruno, that you're hanging out with Bruno, that there's no problem with him. And they told me, he's shitting himself, he's smoking outside his house, he's walking around, everyone tells him that his channel was going to be on his fucking mother. I told him no. I talked to my channel and I said, what's up? They're fucking me with some girls, I don't know. Anything, I said, well, he's the youngest, 14 years old. He said, no, go to that channel.

Then one time I was with this person in his car, with the-square-foot one, and he got a call from a guy named Sleepy. So I was with him, and I heard him say, put me on the kid, I'm going to hit him in the face. Boom, I'm going to hit him. And I answered him right there, because I had him in the car. I said, what's up?

He said, you? I said, go, camera, go. I said, where do you want to go? I said, let's see if it's true, bro. What's up with my brother? He's young, man. But you want to go to a bar there? No, no, no, I know you're going to see me right now. I said, this channel. Take me, man.

No, like if they come to see my brother on the street, man. What's up, my friend? How are you? Anything else? My son is here and there. Take him to see him. No, I'll take care of him. I'll calm him down. But you don't get into trouble. Your family, your son.

Two days later, I get a message on Facebook. It says, No trouble, bro. I just want to tell your brother that he shouldn't feel bad and that he shouldn't be throwing a lot of shit.

I don't want to fight with you. I don't have a problem with you. I don't want to fight either.

But we have to stay.

And he says, Did you see, bro? I told you I was going to stop you. I don't want to make a scene, bro. I'm leaving, bro. I left my wife, I left my brother, I left my... No, bro. So when all that came back to me,

when the officer started to tell me that day in the cell, this guy was in your house, went down to the patio and went up to see him. Fuck, what did you do? I said, this guy did something, or the other guy, I don't know, I don't know. I wanted to do something out there, but he told me, no, no, this guy has nothing to do with it.

But how are you sure it has nothing to do with it? I mean, they questioned me that day. They tell me, why did you run out to the patio? Well, it's the only way out there, that's not where there are no cameras. I mean, because you are telling me that the camera is here where you recorded, but there is nothing here, and here either.

So what I did was run to where a plain was, where you can run. I ran there, I don't know, it was instinct, I don't know, why? That's the thing, why did you run there? And I was thinking, I said, no was thinking, why did I run that way? I don't understand. What's the relationship?

After that, I started to remember. I asked myself where I was walking. When this guy came to supposedly help me, he got out of the car, he was walking, but he passed behind my house,

turned to the sides, He got out of the car and started walking, but he passed behind my house

He turned to the sides and grabbed onto a path It was made of grass, a path between the two fields I saw him walking away with another one They were looking for him, because all the neighbors were there

But I saw them walking, a little colder, but they were walking that way.

I thought, maybe with what the officer told me, with what I saw, with this, that bitch was supposedly a brotherhood of years, of high school, because that day I had a complicated, I was in high school. Why that day, when I was in a complicated situation, and in a state of urgency, they were indifferent to me at that moment.

I said, maybe there was something. Maybe they didn't do it, or they put me, or it was something indirect, or something that I don't know, but there could be something. Because after that, in the statements, and everything that happened,

he denied my friendship. He would say, no, I just know him by sight, and I greet him, and that's all.

But you weren't super friends?

No, we went to high school together, dude, I almost sleep in your house, you sleep in mine, we hang out with the kids, and now it turns out that I don't like him. The other one neither, and so it happened. And everyone started to throw me. No, yes, we know him, but he's a very conflictive person. I say, I mean, conflictive in what way?

Yes, this, no, it's that he says, because that's what the officers told me, that you're very cool for a shot. No, well, they say it, man. Me? Yes, they say, what the fuck, what do I do with you? Why? Are they that fucking?

No, why me? I mean, I never said no. They say that about you. I said, but why then? Well, I can help you at that moment, because I don't want to get involved in that no, because in the end they are being accused of something. But the fact of starting to throw dirt at me, I said, why are they doing it?

You just don't know that I don't know him. You know that I don't even go to the house with the guy and so on. But why the eag dig? They created Facebook, I did it for example, I didn't take them into account. We started to try to look for other places.

They released you again?

Yes, that time we were released after the Amparo. After the Amparo they let us go. How long were you in there? 48 hours? Okay. but I stayed with that. They obviously go their way, I go mine, and the families obviously started telling them what's up, mine, mine, and obviously the family questioning. You did it.

No.

People want answers.

I don't, I didn't do it. I didn't do it, I can swear to you, father, that I did it on dad. Bastard, no.

No, no, no.

I wouldn't even have the heart to touch my daughter. She's my princess, she's my girl, she's my everything, she's my first girl. That's why I started working. If it hadn't been for her, believe me, I would have been still in Cotorreo,

even in the fucking Teporocho, somewhere. I did something better for her, my girl. I said, believe me, if I knew, if I know I did something bad and that it could have been, you know what, here it is, this happened, but look for it. I told the officers when they were detaining us.

They said, no, it's just that you sell drugs, all this. Now, go, in what they check if they are pieces or apples, but keep looking for the girl. Because they are with me, and three days, and that was without any information. There was only the photo, search, and no information. It just had like signs there. The first take, I have it. It didn't say anything about the girl, just her photo, and she's wanted.

We started to try to get them to start tracking her. Well, I know, they sent her here, they sent her there.

You were very active during the investigation, let's say.

Yes, everything that was the beginning. No, that they were going to go to a brigade from that side, Chalco. They were going to go to where the disappearance took place. They were going to take binomials. Oh, no, yes.

Well, I thought it was like to find the trace to where it could have gone. But they took it with the purpose of looking for...

The body.

Exactly. And I didn't know. I said, get down, scratch it. And they scratched it. And they took pictures of me. I said, why don't they take pictures of me? With your hands, scratch it.

And look, you can see the dirt removed.

Nothing.

The whole perimeter, until we got to Mexico, Pachuca. And back, the whole area from there. No, nothing was found. Not even the dogs were found. I gave them my daughter's clothes, the uniform, everything.

So they can smell it and leave a note.

Exactly, I gave them everything. Perfect. You know what? No. The drainage. The drainage that has to be seen. No, it's this protocol.

It comes out. They sent to bring those who dissolve the drainage, they uncovered like two blocks of the drainage. They asked, what are you looking for? A girl's body. And he tells them,

if a girl's body doesn't fit in here, the diameter of the tubes is so big, the body with the water expands, so it doesn't go through here. No, no. No. Nothing. No, then it goes all the way to the Karkham, where the sewage is. Perfect, they go all the way there.

Nothing.

No, well, then we're going to follow the other pieces of investigation with what you're telling us and I don't know what else.

Perfect.

Well, I, as they asked me, don't keep anything for wanting to help a friend who is in trouble. You're going to get hurt and not you. Fuck, I don't know, I don't know. They all told me.

Perfect.

What I wanted was to be seen that I was supporting in everything I could. That they saw that I was not hiding anything. Here is all the information you need. My accounts, check my phone. I'm three days ago. No, of course not. The problem arose from that party. Oh, really? How? Yes, as a result of that party

what happened happened. They were saying that the party happened that night when the girl disappeared. I said, but that's not true. They took that picture from the phone

of the wife of that guy and said it was from here. The phone must have information on the phone or the photograph must have the date of...

When it was taken.

Exactly, and it will not match the day of the disappearance, which would be at nine at night, because the search file is from the 10th to the next day. So we say no, no, yes, it was, no, that is, we are stuck there. Well, okay, fine, no. to bring evidence. We're going to go to the cathecht, they're going to take some blood tests, they're going to do this,

and it's going to be perfect.

How long have we been talking about this, Bruno?

In what period did all this happen? I'm talking about what happened in the first month. What I'm telling you is the first month. Everything was... There was too much interest, so to speak. Was the case mediatized for that moment? Interest for a city. So I guess a person from into know know know know know to do say to do say apenas

Estaba empezando cuando se tocó el tema con la con la activista Entonces ella fue como que la que no se empezó no saber porque no están haciendo esto y nos acompañaba a la fiscalía

O sea ya los Los los costas para ayudarles

No, mi hermana me bueno me prima, mi prima la contactó. Empezó a buscar también información, entonces tratamos de ver por dónde podíamos apoyar. Y obviamente ella aparecía con el de calcetitas rojas. Entonces le manda el mensaje y le cuenta más o menos la situación del caso. Ella dice, no, pues yo los puedo apoyar. No, pues que sí.

Entonces ya al hacer eso, I don't know. So, when she did that, she went with us. No, well, let's see how things are. No, well, like this, like this, like this. No, I believe you. If you say so, I trust you. No, perfect.

At least it was someone at that moment who was giving us hope. Because everyone said that we, that we. And she told me, no, I believe them. If you say it was like that, I believe you. No, perfect. We felt better when we went to the DA's office.

You weren't afraid that they were going to go against you instead of you doing something. So she would come and see. Give your statement. And she would speak. And you would say everything.

No, it's okay. Do you feel good?

Well, yes.

Thank you. ¿Estás bien? ¿Te sientes bien? Pues que sí. ¿Eres buena gente? En el momento. No, pues ya. Pasó. Conforme fue avanzando, la misma... Pues no sé si fuera la misma investigación o la misma fiscalía, no sé cómo estuvo el rollo. Pero como que se empezó a deteriorar un poco. O sea, al principio, te Sogar, I don't know,

something like that. They showed you what they were supposedly doing. After that, everything was repeated. They showed you what we had in advance, the commander of the person who was in charge. Oh, yes, look, here's the picture of this police officer

who is sticking the search warrant on the school.

And that's it.

That's it.

And this is another one, and this is another one. And we have the search warrant here, and we are changing the search warrant for the reward. They are not going to authorize it anymore. Well, perfect. And they told us, if they are not doing it, they are not telling us anything. For humanity, they are going to give it to us for money.

We're going to offer so much, and we just need to be authorized to the amount. I don't know who. That's up to the date that that ticket was never issued. They never offered a reward or anything.

That's weird.

Yeah.

And I said, why? There was, within that same circle, there was an officer, I don't know if he was an investigator or a minister, I don't remember very well, but he was focused on us. It was you, you and your wife. It turns out that officer lived in the area, around my house.

He lived like four blocks away, I didn't even know. He lived nearby. And he would go to the prosecutor's office and say, well, it's him, him and she, I know the town. There was a time when there was a person, he was known in the town,

they called him Tino. He would go out with his sheep in the morning to take them to Pasta. But he liked the rest of the chupa. We obviously couldn't getar a San Miguel. A nosotros ya nos habían mandado y ya estábamos allá

en este, en por el distrito. Estábamos con la familia.

¿Por qué se habían ido de ahí?

Porque nos dije, pues no, nos podíamos quedar en la vivienda. La habían arraigado.

Porque estaba arraigada, claro.

No podíamos entrar, no podíamos mover nada, and they could tell us that we were altering or erasing or doing something. So, where did we stay? With the family. We were going with the family. And my dad was the one who went to the house. He was going and he was looking and trying to see what was going on. Someone has to tell us something, son, someone. And this person appears.

And he says, he was found by my younger brother, the youngest, in the machines. And he says, I know what happened to your niece. Someone took her. I saw it, I was coming down. He was very drunk, that's for sure. I saw it, I saw it. Son of his mother, I don't know what.

How?

And he says this to my brother, to my dad. My dad runs to the machine shop and goes there to look for him. He went with another neighbor and they tell him, what happened? No, well, I saw that, I don't know what, that at dawn they were outside his house,

that I don't know what, sir, that I don't know what. I also have daughters, but I'm going to see him and I'm going to kill him, said the drunkard with his machete. My dad told him, We have to leave him here in the neighbor's house. Let him relax. Let's bring him food. Let him relax.

And they promised him. If you tell us what you saw, we'll give you a box of popcorn. We'll give you some money. We'll give you a couple. No, because I've seen his kid since he was a kid. I was selling water bottles there. And I saw him since I was a kid. He said, I know this guy, he's always working,

he's not worth it, son of a bitch, I'm going to kill him. That's what the drunkard said. One day he disappeared.

The drunkard?

Yeah.

They were looking for him, looking for him, looking for him, but no one found him. Everyone had thought thought something happened because when they wanted to offer the investigation the testimony of this guy they said, no, this guy is even the most intoxicated

yes, but so they know we have this

they say that the drunkards and the children tell the truth

so they tell us, we are going to wait for him to know that we have this. They say that the drunkards and the kids tell the truth. Yeah, so they tell us, we're going to wait for him to get off and we're going to take him to declare that he has his papers as they are, that he's not like that, right? Well, yes.

And the policeman that I have to go around the area, go ahead, fuck your mother, man, that you're a fucking dick, I kicked him out of the neighbor's house. And my dad, why the fuck? That guy is going to get drunk. And my dad said, maybe we are flying. And then my dad was left with that intrigue.

I'm going to look for him. And when they found him, they found him with one hand blindfolded. He was walking alone through the hill. They asked him, hey, make us that stop, man, if you're going to go. No, I don't want anything anymore. No, I don't want to know anything.

They had put a matrix on him, all his size. Who knows how many days he was lost up there in the mountains. He didn't want to know anything anymore. He's a guy.

He didn't want to know anything. So we told the activist. No, we're going to see why this or that. The point that made this person, this officer, was no longer in the case.

According to.

They said, no, you know what? He can't be here because he's from the area and I don't know what.

Bah.

Well, cool, right? If he's helping us. But what happened, guys? Do you need to tell me? No, it's like this, like this, like this. Days went by and she saw that there was no progress. She couldn't find any information

about my wife or my brother. She interviewed my mom, my dad, relatives, grandparents, cousins. She couldn't find anything. And she started to counterattack us. What do you think?

Wendy has messages on her phone.

This girl?

Yes. I was telling you in short.

Yes, she has messages.

From what?

With other guys, look.

And I...

I know this one, I know this one. Yes, but... And if... what if he wanted to leave?

He wanted to leave.

Well, the uncertainty is also there. Yes, what if he wanted to leave? He wanted to take the girls and he didn't. Or what if he sent her first and then to get rid of her? Why don't you check if it was her? And now the other way around, I would tell her,

hey, what if Bruno did something to you? What if Bruno is not the father of the child? I would tell her, he is not the father.

How can he be the father?

And if he is not? Do you remember your ex-boyfriend before Bruno? Well, yes. And how did he find out? No, but he knows, but he doesn't know that this, that the other, that that.

So he started to get involved, and me too. What do you think he told me? Well, that maybe the girl wasn't yours. Fuck, I was already well combed. But you didn't see each other? Yes, but I told her not to say anything because it was crucial. And I told her that I was going to talk to her face to face,

trying to see what she was going to say. And she told me to see what she was going to say. But this had already been done for her.

There is a phrase, right?

Divide and conquer.

So I was trying to see if it was true, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I said, no, but why? He saw that it didn't work, he told me, hey, what if they do this? I said, no, I'm not sure it was like you told me.

What did he want to achieve? He supposedly told us that if that happened, that we would be able to advance in the investigation and we would be able to take other steps. No, I don't understand. When he saw that he didn't, he said, throw your brother.

Your brother is younger, they won't be able to do this to him because they're going to take him to such and such a place and it's going to be the lesser evil. And I said, no, not at all. I'm not going to throw my brother.

Oh, he's the one they thought was guilty.

Why? Because they were running out of time I was already very involved in that and I had nothing. What's up? I said, what's up? And it was already starting. It's just that your dad, your dad is also seen as a bad person. But what does my dad have to do with this?

Is your dad a bad person?

No, he's not a bad person. People considered him that way or considered us that way. Why? Because when we were in that town, it was a small town, like they say, a small town, a big hell. They came to buy and you know, the neighbor, that land was already plowed by so and so, who knows. And my dad came from outside.

They bought the land and started fighting, why they had taken 5 centimeters, why they were 10, why they came from the street, why he had put a cart outside, why he is not. So you were not the good people? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't care, I'm not going to pay you anything. No, just close the service. My dad used to buy drums. No problem, I don't care. So the neighbors started to say, no, they're very conflictive. They're very this, they're very that. So my mom started to hear all that and she told me later,

maybe your dad is the one. What's your dad like with the child? No, I don't know. I mean, maybe we can have everything. Did your daughter get mistreated a lot? Your dad? No, my dad didn't mistreat her. In fact, that's one of the points, because a lot of people say, no, they mistreat them, they hit them.

No, I've hit my children in life. In life.

Where do you think they got that from?

People are more sly than you can imagine. They can make up things out of nowhere.

Yes. I mean, they can make up things out of nothing.

I mean, like, they were saying, from what people were telling me, they were saying that the girls who didn't go to school, that they were walking down the street asking for food. No, man, how can you think? Here's the card, the school's school ID.

Here are the uniforms, the backpacks. How am I not going to send them to school? How are they not going to have to eat? In fact, I have messages here on the phone where, honey, look what I bought you. I sent you this, honey.

I'm not going, but I'll send it to you. Yes, daddy, I don't know what to do.

All that evidence I had.

Yes, they were on the phones. A few days before, I was buying some folders for the school. I don't remember where. So I don't understand what they are doing. Because in the end, what do they gain by saying yes? I saw that the guy was drinking. I never hid it.

I really liked to drink. the field was next to me, on Sundays I would go to the field with a carton and with my friends and drink. But from that, to commit what they are accusing me of, of having committed that atrocity with my daughter. How did they learn you again Bruno? I'm gonna Come with the open up and never know yeah

What's wrong? Yes, please? What's wrong? Yes, please?

What would I see you normal in this a moment of interest?

Okay, guys

Apparently, yes Okay What's wrong This place Okay After all that happened and we had to leave, obviously the family supported you in a certain way, to a certain extent. But obviously they're not going to give you money

to go out to eat, to get dressed, for this, for that. I still had my other daughter, I had my wife, I was there. We had to go where they sent us. So I went to work with my aunt

at the district, at the workshop, to work. I got some money to rent a house, but there in the district it was expensive. So I found one in Guajalco. There in Guajalco we went to rent.

Well, we arrived and we didn't have anything. Everything was lost in that house and there it was left. We arrived with some cartons of eggs. We planted them, the suitcase we brought of clothes

and we put it as a mattress. Two blankets that we were lent, and that was it. There we started to throw it. It gave me a lot of remorse because I said, my girl, where will she be? She'll have to cover herself, will she have to eat, will she have this, will she have that I wanted to...

at some point I wanted to suddenly grab the alcohol and put it in my mother's mouth and say my daughter, but I was not going to win anything I had my other daughter who was next to me and was telling me

dad, hey, what is this?

yes it's true I was crying as time went by obviously we started to... he started to... well, not to forget,

but to try to live with it.

Right?

They told me, you already gave it away

for...

for lost, right? I know that my child is somewhere. I know that... no, it's just that... have a cold mind and think things as they are.

She, well, no, keep a cool head and think things as they are. And I say, no, no, no, no. I'm thinking, I have the hope of seeing my daughter again.

Where did you think she was?

Well, I thought she was, well, it wasn't even funny, but I was going with shamans, with two and other things that people told me. I said, hey, maybe they'll help you. I was going. Something that they did tell me was that the girl was fine. That the girl was fine.

This was to hurt you, but since they weren't going to be able to affect you directly, what was going to hurt you more? They would give you a bullet that they would grab your girl. Fuck, no. And I, no, well, they were ideas, I said, no, well, what else?

I don't know, no, no. I wanted to look for something like, I don't know how to say it, like hope.

Something to grab you.

Yes, something to hope, to say, yes, I'm going to find it. And everyone told me, it's okay, but it's far away. But where? I can't tell you, but it's far away. And so the three people I went to see,

they told me the same thing. It's okay, but it's far away. It's okay, but it's far away. It's going to come back, but it's going to take a while.

Fucking hell.

So I, at home, I had her picture in my house, and I would put her on the wall and pray to God, to the little angel, and I would tell her to take care of her wherever she was, and to make those bastards give her their hearts and to bring her back to me, to put her somewhere wherever she was. God, please. On January 16th, I would buy her the when I was a kid.

And she used to buy her toys too. I used to put her toys on the table and say, Honey, you haven't left yet. You're going to see that when you come back,

you're going to take all her toys.

And that's how it happened. So, I don't know. It's very difficult because I tried to get over it. My youngest daughter used to tell me, Dad, don't cry. Are you crying for my sister? Yes, daughter.

Because when I prayed for her, she would accompany me. Are you crying? Yes. Why, dad? Because I'm here with you. Don't cry. I'm here. My sister went to buy some ice cream. When she comes back from the ice cream,

she will bring us. Yes, honey. and and they will investigate the girl's case. It was like, no, we don't have anything yet, anything, we'll let you know. Well, that's how it started.

And the activist who was there, he stopped helping them?

After he saw that the counter-attack thing didn't work and that we weren't going to sell my wife, or my wife, or us, or my brother, he said, then I can't help you. And when you want help, let me know.

That's all.

Then he did a report, if I remember correctly, it was a show called La Alegría, or something like that, a show from the sixth or seventh, something like that, from Azteca, I think it was,

I don't remember,

where they supposedly took out a cartoon of the events, how it had happened and everything. in and then they started saying, no, if the parents know where it is, tell them. How is it possible that those things are kept? But I mean, no, it's not like that.

It's not professional to go out and say,

no, it's the media, I know how it is.

And I got worse, I said, because they're not supporting us, on the contrary, they're sinking us. We tried with another TV station and we exposed the case and they told us, oh, we're from the case of the girl who was changed for drugs.

We changed for drugs?

Yes, no, no, an activist company already told us about the situation. So they weren't going to believe us, they were going to be believing her, and she was getting in wherever she could. I am this, if I have to pay something, for how I was, or for what I did it. I don't know why I did it. I don't know why they want to put me in jail.

But not because of this. I didn't do this. I would never touch my daughters hair. You can tell me what to do, but I won't. I don't care. Maybe I did shit on her.

But not because of this.

Not like that.

How did they arrest you again? We were already in Huacalco, we were already at home. It was 8 in the morning, the girl had to go to school at 9. They were already preparing for school. Four years had passed. Four years had passed, what can I tell you.

After all this, nothing had been said, nothing had been known, nothing had happened. I'm gonna they told me. You're going to find the body and you're not going to find anything. I swear. You're going to see my daughter walking back. And I'm going to see my daughter. She's going to be bigger, but I'm going to recognize her.

She's my daughter, she's my princess, she's my everything. No, no, no. I've been with her for four years. You have to have the mentality that they can tell you that they found this thing. No, I'm not going to believe it. I'm going to see my daughter and you're going to see that I'm going to see her. I'm going to see my daughter and she's coming back with me.

Well, now, as you want to see her, right? We tell you how things are, that we may find the girl or we may find something about the girl. I know I'm going to see my daughter. Even if she's older, I'll find her. I know I will. Time passed.

The time passed, four years, we went to Oaxaca, in Oaxaca we started to live our lives again. I started to work, my wife started to work, the girl at school, here and there. And suddenly, they leave the girl at school and knock on my door in the morning. Neighbor, neighbor.

And I was taking a shower. What are you waiting for? Neighbor, neighbor.

We were using the towel. What happened? I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I put my shoes on as fast as I could, I ran down to him. And the neighbor, I didn't recognize him at that moment. I said, this guy is not from here.

He just touched me and said, neighbor, come down fast. When I came down, I turned around and saw people. I said, my wife, I want to run. The white charger closes. The other guy grabs me from behind, get in. So I turned around and started to run. The white charger closes. The other guy grabs me from behind. Get in.

So I turned around and started to crawl. I didn't know what was going on. When they put me in, you know what you did. No, but what are you talking about? You know what you ate.

I stayed like that, don't move. They started to handcuff me. I'm already crouched. But down, but I asked my wife, where are you? If they're taking my wife, they're not taking my wife. What happened?

Because at that point I was going to go see if they were taking her. We arrived in Catepec, she got out of a car with my daughter. My daughter was brought in by two officers. And my wife came with another one. And my wife came with another one. And my daughter tells me, Dad, don't let us go to school alone.

And I tell her, it's okay, honey, don't worry. We're just trying to get her to relax a little. Because in the end, the neighbors, at the moment they saw my wife being grabbed, they started screaming that they were kidnapping her. They were kidnapping the girl. They started screaming, they want grabbing my wife, they started screaming that they were kidnapping her. They were kidnapping the girl.

They started screaming, they want to steal her, they want to steal her. The neighbors come out and everything. Well, obviously my daughter saw everywhere. She saw people running, she saw the police arresting her mom.

She got in a car. So I say, damn, again, this is starting again. They get us up, I'm going to start over. They come up to me and ask me what's going on. I start to try to explain everything.

They ask me if I'm going to talk about the good or the bad. I tell them I don't have anything else to say. I told them everything four years ago. Now I have everything they want. And to this day we haven't had anything.

Perfect.

They send me to another office. And no, I'm not going to that office. They put me in the back of the office. I see another officer with a bandage. They bandage my arms around my body, backwards.

They put my sweatshirt on me, and tied my arms in front of me. What happened? I don't know. You don't know? Boom!

First shot. What's up? Like that. At least, I had about 40 minutes trying to figure out what I had done to the girl,

because I knew what she had eaten. And they said, do you know what you ate?

No.

Oh, no?

No, this guy doesn't. He's obviously not going to understand with the fat. No, well, they already put some bags, like those in a package. Then they put it on my fucking head, and now I go back.

Now what?

Calm down.

No, not really. I was there at the beginning trying to hold my breath. I told them more or less the time in which they let me go so that I could talk. I took a breath, I put myself in the bag and I was like, fuck it, I pulled myself

and again, I took the air out to breathe. They saw what I was just pulling on my own and again, I was breathing out. They saw what I was doing, they tied my bags, they grabbed me from behind, one of them grabbed me sitting, pulled me back, and no, I couldn't breathe. I started biting the bag and they grabbed me from a bottle like a soda. I had to put the water through the hole I had made. No, no, this, that, that, that, no.

What happened to you now is going to happen to your wife. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on. And they said, you see, how can you betray your son? Because for some reason you're acting like an idiot. For some reason, no?

Well, then what do I do? I mean, do I let you keep hitting me? They put me to bed, well, I'm left with like, with nails, they cover me with a blanket and they let my wife in. And they say, is it true that I had you threatened, daughter?

Is it true that I had you threatened? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, talk to her. I said, no way, you're already in big trouble. No way, I'll try.

They took me with her, they took our pictures, and on the way here...

Did you talk to her or anything?

Not much, just a few words, because they were keeping us at a distance.

What did they say?

I said, what's up, are you okay? I thought they had hit her in another room. I'm fine, how are you? I'm fine. They say, it's the same again, right? The same thing again and again.

Where's the girl? They took her down there, to a social work. That's it. They pull her to a patrol car, they get me up to another one, they get me up with two officers,

there with some officers. and I would have told you. I swear I will go with you wherever you want me to go. I will go wherever you want me to go. But I didn't do it, boss. My daughters are the most important thing for me. For some reason, I've been on the lookout. We've gone to marches, we've gone to this, but I don't know what to do.

What is the protocol to follow? What do I really have to do for this? So that, I don't say so that, well, so that they help me as such, right? Because in the end, from the beginning, we have been judged, taking into account

or in consideration other types of cases, right? I mean, the case of so-and-so, where the parents took the girl and had her next to help us. But at that moment, we saw what happened. There are clear evidence that the parents can't deny. But I went and, for example, those people

are found a week later, after they realized what happened. They followed clues and they went to the parents. We went and told them, this happened, this situation, help us. And as a result, far from helping us, she got hurt, and far from looking for the girl,

the point was more than anything...

And how to blame them, how to frame the crime,

and they stopped looking for your daughter.

Exactly.

The feeling when I interviewed Emma and Wendy, and this is a question that I ask you more to you personally as a law expert, my feeling was that by blaming them for the disappearance, the search for their daughter was a little reneged. relegó un poco la búsqueda de su hija. Es correcto. De hecho, se pierde la intención de los procedimientos de desaparición. Los procedimientos de desaparición deben de tener esa finalidad, poder localizar a la persona. Ese es el punto principal de las autoridades en esta materia. Más con un menor de edad.

Sobre todo con ellos. ¿Qué pasó? Como no tienen evidencia, entonces hay un prejuzgamiento en donde vamos a detenerlos para que ellos digan la verdad. Y esa no es la finalidad de obtener un... o esa no es la finalidad de los procedimientos de búsqueda.

Porque si tres años estuvieron participando en un proceso de investigación, en jornadas de búsqueda, junto con binomios caninos, con expertos, con un material científico de una alta calidad con el que cuenta la fiscalía, pues no es que ellos estén ocultando algo. Están diciendo la verdad, fueron expeditos en decir la verdad. Lamentablemente, no es creíble para las autoridades. Y quizá sea un punto en el que nosotros podamos ponernos a reflexionar sobre ello y establecer, si

es cierto, quizá no actuaron bien, pero ese no actuar bien, vamos a llamarlo de manera diligente, que no implica que hayan tenido un trato...

Algo que ver con la desaparición.

Es correcto.

O cualquier tipo de crimen.

Es correcto. No implica que deban de ser acusados por la desaparición de su infante.

¿Qué pruebas tienen hoy en tu contra? What proof do you have against him? Well, supposedly the proof is the statements of the people I'm telling you about. They were supposedly my friends, and they were my friends. Saying that I was a bad person, because they are there. That's what they say. They don't say that I did something to them, they don't say that they saw me, they don't say anything. They just say that I was drinking, that I was drugging, that I wasging it, that on the street I was a mess, those are the statements of those people.

This is a video that is the same video that I provided from the outside of the neighbor's house where it points to my house in the early morning, where you can see that three or four cars pass. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I would hope so, because I know that she won't see it. I know that she won't see it.

But you realize that there is no blood inside your house?

I don't know if it's not my daughter's blood. Because, as I told you, that house had... Those same four years that we were there, the house, in fact, in one of the documents, when they give it to us, they say that the house already had robbery and all that.

So when they got to see it, they already had garbage bags in there, the dogs got in, I mean, there was no door, the back door was made of metal, they took it,

the mother of the land, I mean, the house was already... It was unmasked. Yes, yes, yes, I mean, and they say there was blood.

Oh my God.

Did they take your blood and Wendy's to verify?

Yes, four years ago when they took us to Ecatepec, they took us for that. To get blood for both of us, it was a compatibility, they called it that.

At that time there was already blood.

Yes, no, at that time there was no blood. They had not told us anything about that blood issue until four years later. That's why I say, how is it possible that you're going to give information or evidence four years after the house was... Yes, yes, it was lost in the custody chain. Exactly.

Which... but you did get blood four years ago. Oh yeah?

And now they're getting you blood again? No. Oh! but I said, is that it? And the lawyer tells me, he says that the luminol tests throw blood if it is one year old, then I don't know what it could be. I mean, I don't understand. It could be animal blood, it could be human blood. And why don't they check if it's human or not?

It's not what it's supposedly throwing, just photographs. The prosecution is throwing photographs, twenty-something photographs of the luminal tests, the evidence of the video, and the statements.

I mean, as such, they have nothing, there is nothing that really says, you know what? Or here is, look at the blood DNA test and agree with your girl's, dude, and what do you fly? No? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I said, I'm going to go and find something. Because one time, so that release would be given, to put the house under custody again, after four years, they found my daughter's clothes 20 centimeters from the floor. I said, how is it possible

that they found the girl's clothes? If all the clothes that were in that house were taken four years ago, when the investigation was done, when the canine binomials went there, they scratched the ground with the dogs, it was fresh. And they didn't take out clothes, they didn't find anything.

After four years, they happened to find a t-shirt of my daughter there. I say, man, you know what that shit is?

And besides, she lived there.

I said, well, when they say, no, they're going to lift the asphalt folder, go ahead, lift it, throw it away, do whatever you need.

The one on your side has been at your disposal. Would you be willing to have a DNA test?

Anything. As long as it is really proven, that's not how things are.

What evidence is there? ¿Qué pruebas hay? Si vemos la carpeta, Manuel, ¿qué pruebas hay en contra de Wendy y de Bruno? Que hoy no solamente los tienen lejos de su hija mayor, sino también de su hija chiquita. Tampoco han tenido la oportunidad de tener a su hija chiquita cerca,

ni estando bajo el arresto domiciliario que les conseguiste. not even being under the house arrest that you got them. That's right. There is no evidence that shows that they have carried out any behavior that tended to disappear their child. Within the investigation, there was a prior request for a arrest warrant that was responded by a judge, a judge who shows that she has those elements necessary to make a gender analysis. And within that answer, she denies the warrant at first. And the justifiable argument to deny that warrant is the same thing we are pointing out right now.

You cannot accuse a person of an inappropriate diligence. Unfortunately, there are external factors that led to the loss and disappearance of the girl, and you cannot attribute it to indirect issues where there is no evidence that they have carried out any act that will lead to the disappearance of the girl. en donde no hay una evidencia de que ellos hayan realizado algún acto que diera lugar a la desaparición de la misma.

Pero a ver, Manuel, jugando un poco al abogado del diablo, ¿cómo es que les dictan el auto forma en prisión? O sea, ¿bajo qué prueba? Porque el juez tuvo que haber leído ese expediente y tuvo que haber o visto lo que tú ves, que es no kind of evidence to determine that there is the least possibility of determining that they are guilty, how is it that they are linked to the process? How is it that they are given the right to form a prison? What is there in the student who made the judge say, it is a line of investigation that I am going to explore?

They are only prejudices and y solamente son estigmas. No hay una prueba directa que establezca ello.

No hay un testigo de alguien que vio que eran malos padres, no hay testimonios de vecinos, de todo eso.

Hay testimonios que van encaminados hacia el cuidado de la nena, que sí hacen algunos argument arguments, but past ones. There is no argument present, not even evidence of any previous child abuse that would have given rise to considering that they are be linked to this disappearance. We insist again, the argument to be able to link them to it is to point out that they did not do what was necessary so that it did not happen. That it did not happen.

That it did not happen.

That's correct.

So, basically, the sentence they are going to pay or the out function has to do with

being bad parents in the eyes of a third party. That could lead to a sentence. We are avoiding that we get to that point. Because the disappearances of people, as can happen in other events, many times, if they do not have a direct proof, there is no one who can come and say, this happened this way, or they did this to cause the disappearance. But there is scientific evidence

that can lead to it. And it is very important to say that they, on the day they disappear, because they disappear in the morning, they realize at one o'clock at 7 in the morning, early, and they immediately notify the prosecution. That is, the prosecution had the scientific elements because that same day he went to the home, that same day he inspected the home, he carried out genetic and criminal tests to determine that there was no trace that could establish that they disappeared the girl. So, al no haber una línea de investigación científica,

todo se reduce a prejuicios, todo se reduce a inducciones, todo se reduce a presunciones. Pasó porque no hicieron. Literalmente, es el punto que los tiene a ellos vinculados a este procedimiento en donde pasaron de ser víctimas a ser victimarios. in which they went from being victims to being victims. What did they have to do according to the judge? What did they have to do differently according to the judge so that this wouldn't happen? The criterion is that it is not credible that they disappeared without them noticing. That is the point.

What do you think happened to your daughter? That's one of the questions I keep asking myself after all this time. I want to think that maybe it was something against me,

but I also start to think what was I supposed to think that maybe it was something against me,

but I also start to think what I should have done of that magnitude.

To get your daughter's hat off.

Exactly.

You have to do something very bad.

That's what I'm going for. I should have done something very, I mean, bitch. And obviously, if it's something like that, there should also be some kind of previous damage, right? Maybe, like they checked my phone here. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't you think about it?

Well, yes. And I want to think that no.

I want to think that all this was maybe some... Well, yes, some bullshit happened to me, right? I'm going to that part of these bastards. Of those who were there. Maybe I'll be fine, maybe I'll be bad, but that's where I am.

But what did you owe them to take your daughter away?

I didn't owe them anything.

Then why would they do it?

I didn't owe them anything. That's what I don't understand, that's what I don't know. They were close, fuck, to my circle.

Like a dog?

Yes. They entered my house, and the dog would pet them. Would you have a drug problem with them? Or something? What I was telling you about the guns, that they were messing around with the guns, that let it fall and that guy wants them and so on. So, I was really scared.

I said, maybe this guy here told this person, hey, dude, what's up? I'll give it to you, but fuck it. Or I don't know. I don't know where it could be.

Because the truth is, I would say, if I owed this, I owed the other. You know what? If it could be here, to owe him, then not. The other guy had no word, more than the time I told him,

well, what are you doing with my brother?

Until then.

You woke him up? Yeah, I told him, you know what? Yeah, a shot of yours. And we're going to see if it's true, and with my brother, what's up? And he said, you know what, you go there. And I told the officers on another occasion, I told them, what if like this, as such, they say there is nothing.

But what if I go and if I come like, what the fuck? But what if I go and I come back? And I go and I go in to see what the fuck I find. I'm not going to ask, obviously, how are you? What happened? I'm going to grab one, two, three, what's up, bitch?

Let's see, get out of here.

Kidnapping and committing crimes to know what happened.

But at least I know where my daughter is. Yes. If in the end... And why didn't you do that before? I tried. I told them... My mistake was maybe commenting it with the officer who was handling the case. I said, hey, what do you think?

I said, I'll do this. And he said, you have two options. You go and you get more. Now, if something happens to them, they will immediately leave you. Not a chance will give you that ...

And I, damn, what do I do, what do I do, what do I do? I said, no, I said, well, I'm contacting friends from the area. Hey, how have you seen? No, well, so-and-so, so-and-so, well so. He's changed cars, he's living on the other side. No, but if he didn't have money for the lawyer and he didn't have for this, how the hell would he have money?

No, well, he's not going to change.

But there they are.

Damn. Hey, dude, so and so. He's not here anymore, he's gone. Why did he leave? Who knows? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know, X. Try to investigate or know something that really, because a lot of people told me, I'm sure, brother, that if we go, it's with everything.

And we're going to know what happened and where it is, whatever you want. I'm gonna go to the hospital. I said, why don't you let things go by? What if you don't find anything and in the end you screw up and everything goes out? I sat down, I said, I do it or I don't do it. I said, God will tell me if I do it or I don't do it.

I said, I'm going. And once I tried, once I tried and I went to get in there and I went on the motorcycle and I went to the house and that bastard told him, where are you, get out, get out.

And you'll see that, I don't know what, and I just saw how he moved in his windows. That guy had his house like in a alley and there was like three trees, half hidden. This guy had cameras around those trees. I mean, supposedly watching his street, right?

When I also told the officers about this situation, they were almost at his mercy. Hey, sir, so-and-so, come on. And the guy was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm coming, I'm coming with you. And I said, dude, I'm telling you that this guy

comes and moves this and that. What do I ask? Sir, good afternoon, can you come with us?

Yeah, sure.

Fuck.

At the time, supposedly, I don't know if it's true, but they killed him. They blew his head off in one of the towns. That's what I heard, I said, did they really kill him?

Yes, they did.

I said, not bad.

Damn, your case is very hard.

And...

How brave that so much time has passed. Because every day that passes is... is more complicated. And... Right now you are also waiting for a bracelet. In the end, the prosecution knows that there's not much to sentence you with.

Well, that's what I hope, right? Because, I tell you, in the end, I see all this as something that has to happen. Because if all this is really to hit my daughter...

Let it be so. There's no problem. We're fine like this. Have you seen Wendy? I'm going to start. Because if all this is to really hit on my daughter, I don't know, yes.

There's no problem.

We're fine like this.

Have you seen Wendy?

Only through Zoom, when there are audiences.

Audiences.

I've seen her there.

And have you seen your daughter?

No.

My daughter was given custody by an aunt of my wife. Not even my family members, in this, like in custody, to an aunt of my wife. Not even my family members, because I think I'm in a position where that girl can't be in my family, so she's there.

And well, I call her and I can talk a little bit with her, but they ask her to record the calls, to see what I tell her, because you realize when the girl talks to you, right? Dad, how are you? My love, I love you.

Hey, where are you? I don't know what they told the girl, because the girl herself told me, Dad, I know what's going on. I tell her I'm working. Dad, I know what's going on.

What's going on, mom? That you and my mom are being blamed, because they are blaming my little sister. But I know it's not like that, dad, because you love us so much, I don't know what's going on. So, there's no way to be telling the girl.

Yeah.

I don't know if they're going to let her, to try to make the girl say,

I don't know, I don't know if they're doing it to try to make the girl say,

I don't know, I don't know. Because they ask her to take her to the DIF, to certain types of activities, right? Like protocol.

Yes.

But obviously the girl couldn't have gone in alone. Someone told her, no, your parents are like that because your sister doesn't show up and they're both in jail because, you know where we are? They're in jail, dad. Fucking hell.

And he says, don't worry, dad. I know that, I know that, no, because you love us very much and my sister knows that we love her. Today it gives me a lot of courage, it gives me a lot of impotence to know

that everything that all the people out there are saying to him.

Sure.

Even in one of the hearings, we presented a topic in which my wife's aunt was having a hard time with the expenses of the child. Why? Because they are her two children. Obviously, she works in... I think they are banquets, something like that. So the days are a bit long. She is the one who works and takes care of the house and takes care of the kids and then now my daughter. So we put that up for what? So that they would give us the girl back, right?

And the prosecutor, as soon as that argument was made, she said no. In this, ending the hearing, she almost said, I'm going to turn a job so that they go for the girl, where they have her in custody, so that they remove her and send her to a shelter for this, for this, for this and for this. I said, why? She's with a relative. It's not like there was no one outside who could be with her. Why? Why the urge to be with us? I mean, why Why would they do that? They want us to get upset,

showing us publicly what we did, taking away our custody of my daughter, doing things that I say, why? And then now that, telling them where we are and why we are, and I say, it's not worth it either.

And why do you think it is?

Well, they've been gone four years and they don't know what happened. Someone is still out there asking for results on this. What is the most viable? If four years ago they couldn't do it, then what was the father, what was the mother? Whatever. Because there have been other cases.

There have been other times. You have seen it on TV and other places. And now they're here, and on top of it, and on top of it, and on top of it, and on top of it, and they don't let me. And he's going to put his little star and say, I was me. Because for some reason he came back. I don't think he just came back because, oh, I remember. Yes.

Because for some reason he came back after four years without saying a word to the lady. Now it turns out that after four years he's interested in her again. Oh, and here I am, kid, don't forget.

Oh, well, Bruno, thank you for telling me your version of things. This case is so strong and so sad. For your daughter, really, and for your two daughters.

But I hope this will be resolved soon.

First of all, we hope so.

I hope so.

Thank you, Bruno.

Thank you.

These are fragments from the next episode. There's blood, but there's no evidence. I think they found blood on the bed. Everything I gave them, shoes, clothes, they say they don't have it. Why, out of so many cases of missing children

that are left in the impunity, why this one was taken against them? Yes, that's the mystery that I would like to solve. Why, four years later, I'm still thinking about what we did wrong so that all this would happen to us.

Let's see. Let's see. I'm so happy.