PATRICE LE COMPLOTISTE, 73 ANS : IL CROIT À TOUTES LES THÉORIES DU COMPLOT ET NOUS EXPLIQUE POURQUOI

We're going to welcome Patrice, who is a conspiracy theorist. But why do you think we're all being hidden in the planet?

Guillaume.

Do you think there are reptilians?

Well, yes, of course.

I've seen that on presidents of foreign countries.

But among them, there are people who are infiltrated by exogenous civilizations who live outside our world, beyond the ice.

Extraterrestrials, what?

Or extraterrestrials, you mean? Or ultra-terrestrials. There have never been men on the moon. Honestly, that's a good one. There's no Apollo mission that went to the moon.

Did you get vaccinated or not?

Certainly not.

So now I'm going to tell you. COVID is not a virus, it's a plan. You know that well. In fact, you are a to reveal this kind of thing. I won't say it here, but you have a little idea.

Hello everyone and welcome to Legends. An exceptional show today on the subject of conspiracy. We wanted to address the subject to understand it. Not to question it, but to understand it. To try to listen to the speech of some on the Internet, on certain topics, precisely because, according to an IFOP poll,

a few years ago, and especially last year, more than 33% of French people believed in at least one conspiracy theory. We can even go on some polls, up to 60% of French people on some conspiracy theories. We wanted to go deeper into the subject. You are many to write to us each time

to go on the show and tell things. And we received a message a while ago from Patrice. Patrice, 71 years old, who is here today with me in the studio, who believes in all conspiracy theories. We thought it was interesting,

that way we took one person to listen to conspiracy theories that many French or some French people believe in. As the show went on, when we shot it, we gave this show to a boy named Hardisk, Henri. Hardisk is his nickname on the internet.

He's a YouTuber who makes subjects popular and explains them very well on the internet. We asked him to debunk it, that is, to listen to the show and to give him the real numbers to contradict, to try to give the official version, the version we believe in.

But this way, we give the floor, it's also an argument of many conspiracy theorists, to say, look, we're not invited on the set, we're not given the floor, so it's true, since we don't want me to go on the set and say it. Well, look, we are different, and we accept here on Les Jambes to receive people,

to receive everyone, and to try to understand, not to question, but to understand the subject. So we are going to talk about a subject by Patrice today,

who is a conspiracy theorist. He calls himself a free thinker. You will see an exceptional show, you will be able to comment on the show, since I love reading your opinions on this kind of show, to know what you thought of each topic. And be careful, some topics, we understand that sometimes some people question the official version

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including Philippe Boxo, Thérèse Argaud, a couple therapist, and Julien, a fighter helicopter pilot. We will have a central scene with a show. You can come with children, with grandparents, as a family. It will be a show with surprises and going to learn a lot of things. It's going to be very interesting. Each guest will tell three exceptional anecdotes that he has never told before. There will be no phones in the room, you won't be able to film or take pictures

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Hello, my name is Patrice, I'm 73 years old and I'm a conspiracy theorist

Welcome Patrice, thank you for this intro. So, what does it mean, conspiracy theorist? You wrote to me a few months ago when we did a show with Mike, who was presenting himself as a flat-earther, meaning that he thinks the Earth is flat, like I think 8 or 9% of French people according to a huge poll. We said to ourselves, it's, in a media like ours,

to give the floor to everyone, to all those who think, to all those who... to all the professions, to all the currents, to try and listen to the other French people who live on the territory and who think differently from us. It's a bit the principle of this media, to try to understand why we think that

and to really listen, taking the time. What does it mean theorist mean?

A conspiracy theorist is a truth seeker. And it is often someone who decides to make a mess before others.

You wrote to me by email following Mike's show. I just noted a number, it's IFOP, a survey institute, which says that more than a third of French people, more than 33%, believe in at least one big conspiracy theory. Does it speak to you?

I'm always surprised because conspiracy theorists are so criticized that now, as soon as an idea that is a bit out of the norm is mentioned, I'm not even interested in it, I don't even want to hear it. It's something that... You see, in my entourage, when I expose my ideas, and I have many ideas, nobody understands me.

The only people who understand me are the people who are very close to me, my daughter, my mother, my wife, and maybe one or two friends. The rest of the time, they tell me, but you're a perched, what are you telling us? Because people are in a dimension that is not mine. Most people, 95% of people,

are in an embodied dimension. And I'm not in an embodied dimension. I am partly in an embodied dimension.

What is an embodied dimension?

The one that is ours, of man. Of man, of humans, incarnated with a body. But inside this body, there is energy, above all things, energy, information, vibration. And that is also a consciousness. What is material consciousness? In which we live. It is time, space and matter. This induces the material consciousness, in which we live every day.

But energy, information and vibration are opposed to this. And this is the immaterial or vibratory consciousness of our world. And you even have a third consciousness, which is the one that is induced by the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, which is the spiritual consciousness. So there are people who live in the material consciousness, you have people who live in the vibratory consciousness, like the mediums, who manage to communicate with souls, with the people, which most people can't do. And then there are people who are in a totally spiritual consciousness,

and those become priests.

You wrote me an email following Mike the Platist, saying, I would like to react, etc. Do you consume the media you knew?

I had already seen a few shows before, yes. But what attracted me most was when I saw Mike Platiste come on your show. I said to myself, wow, people invite a Platiste, it's rare, because in general, they never give us the floor. Because what we have to say about the notion of flat Earth, that we must not confuse with the planet,

the planet is one thing, the Earth is another.

Wait, wait, wait, let's take it in order.

We're going to talk about all the subjects that exist in conspiracy theories that we can find on social media, etc. So, what do we believe, what do we not believe? I'm a globist, as they say, I think the Earth is round, but I don't judge, and it's important to be able to discuss and explain. So we're going to talk about flat Earth, round Earth, whatever we want, the Earth, we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about extraterrestrials,

chemtrails, so chemtrails in French, it's the sludge that's behind the planes, which are water vapor, condensation, and that some people, I see your eyes going up in the sky, think that they're products to intoxicate us, to poison us. You have worked, we'll talk about it later, you retired today, you worked in the army,

you also worked in the cinema, I believe, you did a lot of very different jobs. Just, what is a conspiracy theory?

The conspiracy theory, the conspiracy is something that is created by secret societies. The conspiracy theory does not exist. It's something that we put on the back of conspiracy theorists. They are told that they are inventing conspiracies,

conspiracies that do not exist. Really? According to you, there is no conspiracy in the world we live in? There was no conspiracy around the assassination of Kennedy? There was no conspiracy around the collapse of the September 11 towers.

Wait, without judgment, to understand well, you think that a conspiracy theory means that there is hidden information, basically? Of course.

It's not that anymore?

Of course. You say the Kennedy assassination, maybe the CIA didn't say everything, so it's a conspiracy theory, or is it not just that there is classified information, secret defense, for various reasons?

Of course, there is classified information, secret defense, and we can understand it very well. We can understand that a state does not want to tell its people everything. It is understandable. Now, when there are some who manage to understand why we hide things, because they come across documents, or information, or a contradiction,

at that moment, these people ask themselves questions. They say to themselves, but what we are told here is not true. The person said the opposite in the previous interview. And there are people who have the ability to listen, to see, to discern the false from the true, to feel things. And these people, we have to discredit them because they are dangerous people. The conspiracy theorists who will reveal to you, for example, that the Earth is flat.

The planet and the Earth are two different things.

We will talk about the flat Earth, no problem.

What is your opinion about it?

My opinion on this? First, we have to go back to the source. Who calculated the circumference of the Earth? Eratosthenes, 2,200 years ago. How did he get there? Eratosthenes lived in Siena, and he was also the director of the Library of Alexandria. The distance between Siennes and Alexandrie,

we are told, was 800 km. That's what we are told. Then we are told, Mr. Erathosten, he planted a stick in the ground, he realized that in the summer solstice, the shadow was as short as possible,

and that when it fell vertically into the well, which was a reference, he realized that at a certain distance from there, there were shadows on the objects. So he thought, the light does not fall vertically in all places, so there is curvature. It's a smart reasoning. We will calculate that.

So he said, well, to go to Alexandria of Siena, at the time we counted in stades, we were far from the definition of the meter which is the one of today, the speed of the light in the void, etc. And we were told there were 800 km. In reality there were not 800 km, there were 791 km.

But Siena no longer exists. In reality, there were not 800 km, there were 791 km.

However, Siena no longer exists. Siena is replaced by the city of Aswan. Any line driver will tell you today the distance between Aswan and Alexandria is 947 km. It's not 791. What do you do with the remaining 156 km? If you do the calculation again with these 156 km of distance,

which is not a small number, you realize that the Earth is 47 000 km in circumference, and not 40 km. And by the way, in Eratosthenes it was not 40 km, it was 39 000 km and something. Our planet is much bigger than we are told.

It's a conspiracy to say that. It's easy to verify, we could verify it, well, with difficulty, because we have to escape to very distant distances from the Earth to be able to do it. And then, what reference do we take in space for the calculation? So, at least the planet is... The planet, I say the. So, at least, the planet does...

The planet, I mean the planet and not the Earth, the planet does 47,000 km. It's not just 7,000 km away, it's Paris-Chicago. And when the flat-earthers evoke the flat Earth, they evoke all of that at the same time.

So, how is the Earth, in your opinion? What is your theory? Quickly, simply.

What does the Earth look like? It looks like a kippa on a big ball. You see a kippa, you put it on a big ball, the ball is the Earth, it's the planet, and the kippa is the Earth's zone, it's where we live. It's a big zone, it's a big kippa.

But that's it. And we live in this space, which is this material space, which is delimited by the dome, this famous energetic belt, called Van Halen's belt, there are even two of them. Mike Platts talked about it. Of course, and we are surrounded by this famous ice wall.

So you believe in that too? Of course!

Of course! Because beyond this ice wall, there are civilizations, which are exogenous civilizations, with particular intelligences, which are both in a physical form and in an energetic form.

And they come to us, since they control us. We are their food, that's the problem. We are their food, that's the problem.

We are their food.

We are their food, they feed on our energies, and sometimes even more than that. And they invest human bodies. You're going to say, but where is he going to get that from, Patrice? Of course it sounds crazy, it sounds delusional.

But there are certain mediums that could answer you precisely to what I'm telling you here. But where is he going to find that, Patrice? Of course it sounds crazy, it sounds delirious. But there are some mediums who could answer you precisely to what I'm telling you here.

Wait, so you think we're only on a part of the Earth? Because it's not the same theory as Mike the Platist, who thinks we're on a flat thing.

But that's what I blame the Platists.

So you're a kind of curved movement?

Yes, but at the same time, I will clarify the thing. You heard it, at school and everywhere, the Earth is flattened at the poles.

So here we have Patrice, who explains that the circumference of the Earth would be rather 47,000 km instead of the official figures which would announce rather 40,000 km in which he thinks that the Earth is spherical but above all much larger than the official figure. How can we explain, prove, show that the Earth is spherical, but much larger than the official figure. How can we explain, prove, show that the Earth is 40,000 km long? What is the official figure and how does it explain it?

We have measurements, which are made by satellites, which place us on a circumference of about 40,000 km. These measurements had already been made in the past, at a time when there was no technology that we have today. It was a Greek scientist, Heratosten, who had measured 39,375 km. So he had come pretty close, in the end,

to the measurements we have today. So I'll put the link that allowed Henri to prepare his file directly in the description on YouTube. I'll give you the links each time, if you're interested in going and reading all this more precisely. And then he, according to him,

the Earth is the equivalent of a kippah on a balloon. How can we explain and prove that it's not that? It's a problem we're going to have during our discussion. It's the concept of Karl Popper, who follows falsificability.

It's as if I told you, I see a ghost right next to you.

A medium has already said that. Christian Barret told me there's a ghost next to me. I'm putting you back in that context a bit, but if I tell you that there's a ghost and I ask you to prove to me that there's a ghost, you can't say anything. And that's a concern we're going to have in this discussion because there are a lot of elements like that that are advanced by your not, like if there is a unicorn or a ghost there. Here I put you a photo of Thomas Pesquet

in the International Space Station, you see the Earth behind, he is only 400 km away, so he does not have the necessary distance to take a photo of the real shape of the Earth. Can we rely on

the photos of Thomas Pesquet to prove that the Earth is round, just with the photos we see? Yes, well, first of all, we agree on one thing, it's that, indeed, Thomas Pesquet in this photo is about 400 km from the Earth. Which is the equivalent of a Paris-Poitiers. It allows you to imagine Paris-Poitiers, you go up to the city of Poitiers, for example, in the sky,

the city of Paris, of Poitiers, and it in the episode we did with Mike, who was a flatterer. We don't need this kind of photos to show off. We have the measurements that exist, we have the shadow of the Earth on the Moon, we have everything we talked about in the previous episode, which doesn't necessarily focus on one photo, like that, in an anecdotal way.

But why do you think we're all being hidden, Patrice? It's the subject I didn't really understand. Because if we tell you the truth about it,

we have to tell you the truth about everything.

Stop, it's not the same.

Yes it is. Why? Because we have to explain to you that we are not alone in the cosmic zone where we live, and that there are other beings, beings that have been here for millions of years, that have modified us so that they can use us.

The origin of man, who created him?

You're going further than Mike. Of course. We had received a little player, I didn't know.

That's why I wrote you. I said, excuse me Mike, he's certainly going to watch, and I said to you, you received the plunier. It's not nice to say that, but indeed, he stayed at the basic level of the thing.

You can imagine that if there was a... Today we are with the technology we have, you know that there would necessarily be a guy who would go and throw an info. It's impossible to keep a theory today, I think. It's my opinion, very sincere. I think there would necessarily be a guy who would go and film to show the other side of the scenery, if there was ever something, to show it, you see. It's impossible to keep today.

It's even more and more difficult for the States to keep secrets.

Do you know what these people are doing?

Go ahead.

No, I wouldn't say it here. But you have a little idea. Do you think they stay in the circuit? They are eminently dangerous people.

But why? I don't understand why. It's really important to talk about reptilians, Illuminati, all the subjects you can believe in, or not. You'll tell me every time, because there are conspiracy theories that you shouldn't believe in conspiracy theories. There are things you don't adhere to,

as everyone has their own opinions. Why would they hide that from us? It's not clear, and I speak about it very freely.

Because hiding this kind of thing is hiding the truth. And when you have access to the truth, you are a free man, and a free man cannot be controlled. So, we leave you in a world of lies. And why is the reason that you want to control? Do you know how our world is regulated?

It is regulated by four principles. Cheating, lying, falsification and manipulation. And these four principles touch four domains. Science, history, religion and politics. And that's our world, the world of our incarnation. There are beings who have been there for millions of years, on our side, who saw the Source, the Consciousness,

create something alive. You can call it God, you can call it the Consciousness, you can call it the Source, you can call it another name, as you wish. We call it God, the Creation, the Creator. We are from that, and at the base, this creation, it received a divine particle

that is lodged in our soul. The soul is not inside us, the soul is what surrounds us.

To structure the show well, we need to understand who you are. You were a micromechanic,

it was your job, what does it mean to be a micro-mechanic? Micro-mechanic is the work of precision mechanics. My very first job was to work on the platinum of the formidable's periscope. So that's micro-mechanics, and that's watchmaking.

But the formidable is a nuclear submarine.

Then I did something else. I made tools for the watchmakers. Small towers, small mills to make small re-buildings, etc. Then I went to the cinema as a projectionist. And there I worked for a good thirty years. So the majority of your career.

Yes, the majority. When did you start to be interested in conspiracy theories? Very young. There was no internet before? No, but I read books. I read Anton Parks' books very early.

I read Zechariah Sitchin very early. I read it a bit like science fiction novels. Then it got refined. I had access fiction novels. And then it all became more refined. I had access to magazines. That's how it happened.

Did you talk to your family? How did they react? Do you think conspiracy theorists are a big part of it?

I always kept that to myself. But I talked about it at school. And everyone laughed. I didn't necessarily talk about what I'm talking about today, about the subjects we're going to talk about here. I talked about other things. I don't remember what exactly, but things that,

that touched the aliens, the invisible world. All that, I always had... You were always attracted to that. I was always attracted to the aliens, to the invisible world. You were always attracted to that? Yes, and I experienced the beyond and the invisible worlds. What do you mean? My father came to visit me 17 years after his death.

I saw him physically, in a diaphanous form, a bit of a transparent ghost.

He put his hand on my shoulder, he gave me a message, and before leaving, he took off my T-shirt.

I thought,

something happened.

I saw my father, I felt his hand, he said something to me.

Do you remember? Yes, yes, he said, I'm here to help you. He took off my t-shirt and he left. My daughter was next to me on the couch and I said, but did you see? I thought she had seen my father's ghost. And she answers me, I said, did you see? She answered me, yes, someone pulled your T-shirt. The physical phenomenon, she saw it. So I knew it was true, otherwise I would have doubted.

I would have said, but it's not possible.

She saw the T-shirt pulled?

Yes, she saw the T-shirt pulled. And so I said to myself, I did't dream, it was my father. The character I saw there, with his long hair, he was going to the ferry, I told myself, yes, it's him, but you know in what conditions I saw him? I was playing Far Cry on my computer, I told myself, my boy, you're delirious, stop your stupid games, because you're seeing paranormal phenomena.

It's not right. And it wasn't a paranormal phenomenon, because I had a witness.

Have you ever had neurological problems or psychiatric problems? Never. You could have taken a drug or heard something.

Absolutely. Sometimes it can bring...

Absolutely.

But when these things happened to me, I doubted. When my father came to see me, he came to visit me 17 years after his death. But what does 17 years mean to us? And if that's the case, he died 2 minutes ago. He died in 1987. The very day of his death, he may have come to see me.

In his world, in his temporality.

Is there a conspiracy theory, before talking about Illuminati, Reptilians, all that, words that we sometimes hear, that we see on Twitter, on X, etc. Are there really some conspiracy theories that make you laugh, where you say to yourself, it's going too far for me? That you don't believe.

I never tell myself that. I tell myself, sometimes, when I hear things that seem a bit huge, I think, after all, why not? Because the world we live in is so complicated. To go from a material consciousness to a vibratory consciousness,

to a spiritual consciousness, it's complicated to navigate between all that. Some people are content to live in the material consciousness.

You say, I'm a truth seeker. You say you are a truth seeker.

Yes.

Everyone is a truth seeker.

Yes.

Everyone wants to know, to look on the internet, to understand a subject, etc. How does it materialize? Do you still look today? Where do you look for yourself? You say you are looking, but where are you looking?

In fact, I don't go looking for it, but where? I'm not looking for anything. I hear things. I don't know, what could I mention recently? September 11th, for example. When I see the Twin Towers collapsing at the speed of free fall, like a controlled demolition, If the tunnel collapsed at the speed of free fall,

like a controlled demolition, I can't imagine for a moment that it was two or one plane that could have brought down this tower. It's impossible. Any architect will tell you that these towers couldn't even be hit by a plane and collapse in this way.

Any architect! But serious architects, those who are known, will never evoke this.

You think that the towers were demolished, basically. It's true that it's a theory that we often see on social networks, which are repeated in mass sometimes. But they are not architects. You see, I'm trying to be a lawyer, but they're not architects. They're just people who say, there's so much weight, you take a mass, you crush it.

Obviously, there are projections on the sides, since you're crushing something that's collapsing. We saw a plane going into the tower, do you agree with that? I'm asking you to understand yourself. A plane went into the tower?

You saw the planes? A plane? Yes.

Or a drone?

Ah, you think they're drones?

Ah, no. So he thinks they're not real planes, he explains it.

He says that, according to know that they are real planes, for all kinds of reasons, the report, the images, we know that they are real planes. In terms of technology, combat drones are a fairly old technology, at least, it has been developing for a very long time.

From what I could find in the sources,

you will have models like the Predator MQ-1, to launch small missiles at very precise targets, to do something of that magnitude? Absolutely not.

There were people in the planes. Are you sure? Yes, you saw the names and all the...

Oh yes? Who published those names?

What agency published those names?

There were people in the towers, working.

Oh yes?

We see them. We see them jump.

Yes.

Yes, but a drone could hit a huge drone. Drones are not just small planes with four small propellers.

You can make drones, planes the size of a plane. On the Pentagon, there is no image of a plane. Indeed, this has fed a lot of conspiracy debates on the subject. But you can see the planes flying. You can see that they are not drones. The planes that entered the towers had a departure, an arrival, they were on flight plans. They were planes that were...

There was a communication. There were people who sent messages.

There is not a single pilot, there is not a single one, who will tell you that the trajectory followed by the planes that hit the towers is possible. No pilot, they did a lot of simulations, but by dozens, none of them managed to land the plane in a tower while they were professional pilots. And on the other hand, the pilots of the lines, they had just barely their pilot's license, they had trained on single-engine aircraft. Well, listen, sincerely, does that make sense?

According to Patrice, he says that there is no pilot who has confirmed that the trajectory of the aircraft was possible for a pilot. What do we know about that? Well, there were simulations that were actually done, because it was important to understand a little bit what had happened

and then to recreate the conditions to really follow the trajectory of the plane.

While they were not pilots, the guys, the terrorists. They had taken very fast piloting lessons, I think. They had taken pilot lessons, they were not professional pilots. So there was a simulation of the University of Purdue, and then there is the report that I quote,

that you can send to people, which is actually the report of the NIST, which takes up this trajectory, these simulations, etc., which are part of the complete report on these events.

There should be several pilots, but we can see that everything is... The problem is that the composer will immediately think that everything is wrong. He will start from the postulate that we are being lied to. But what's the point of doing that? I'm trying to take, but I don't have a pilot on board. We're both to discuss.

But what are we being told, Guillaume? It's difficult to talk about these subjects, because it's so complicated, and it refers to so many sub-topics, that it's difficult to talk about it directly, face to face. What was the purpose of the collapse of the towers?

The national security plan? What was the purpose of the collapse of the towers? The national security plan controlled everyone. It was used to get budgets to vote to send the Americans to wage war in Iraq. It's not nothing. A war in Iraq? 3,000 deaths per day. Okay?

When they waged war in Iraq, 3,000 deaths per day. The towers? There were 3,000 deaths a day. Okay? When they fought, there were 3,000 deaths a day. The towers, there were 3,000 deaths. It's a day of war. For some, it's nothing. You can sacrifice 3,000 men. You can have the towers collapse. The towers can be rebuilt.

And 3,000 deaths...

I like life.

I see a government that validates the death of 3,000 people.

Oh, well...

From their homes. It's not a war outside, it's really people inside. It's the neurologic center of New York, in which there were I don't know how many companies.

But for some, the dollar is worth more than a human life.

I think that on September 11th, unfortunately, it's guys who took a plane and who rushed into a tower.

You have the right to believe it.

Exactly. And you, you are certain, it's your opinion, that's why we're receiving you, you think we're being lied to on a lot of subjects, you think that the 11th of September was done to make war.

Basically.

In part, it was done for that, and then there are things that... I don't have an office in the Pentagon, so I can't tell you... But, according to what I saw of the subject, I think that what we were told is nonsense. Since the planes can't hit the towers, since the pilots themselves can't do what these terrorists do,

by having as a training a few hours of flight training, something is already wrong. The collapse of the towers is a controlled demolition. It's obvious, but it's crazy.

It's visually marked, we hear it. We hear the people calling, and we hear in the black boxes... Not in the black boxes, in the radio calls of the pilot. I think the tower, unfortunately, was a tower of the 70s.

I can just make a comment. We hear the voices of the people calling in the planes. And we even saw President Nixon call a cosmonaut on the moon by the phone of the Oval Office.

Okay ?

He calls 400,000 times with his phone. That too is true.

So... But you cross paths. He calls 400,000 times with his phone. That's also true. But you're crossing the line.

That's why I said, let's talk about a subject.

Yes, but I'm talking about the mego of Notre Dame,

and I'm talking about the phone call.

All of that is a lie.

We're in a world that is over-mediaized, the village freak can spread something huge. On the contrary, you're probably right on some subjects, and we're going to talk about the president, I don't know, people... Indeed, there were a lot of things of communication of the States,

because it was a thing of communication.

Indeed, we'll come back to that, and that's why I'm forced to put warnings on it,

and so I represent a part of the population, you represent another, and it's important to listen to each other

and try to explain why. Maybe you think that the towers,

they were deliberately destroyed by drones made by a state to wage war. I think the official version on the subject...

In part, in part. You add to that the fact that when the Americans went to Iraq, do you know what they did? Their first operation when they entered Baghdad? They went to plunder the museums, to steal artifacts and rare documents. Because in Baghdad, there are corridors that connect the Mount Busseji.

What is the Mount Busseji?

It's a huge cavity that has been discovered. That's a conspiracy theory. It exists potentially according to the researchers. No, no, no. It's... It's being watched 24 hours a day by 3 armies of the world. So there's something going on there.

So this is official?

Of course!

Or is it a conspiracy?

No, it's official.

Ok, ok, ok. So what's in it?

Well, we're not going to tell you, but teams that have penetrated this cave have had access to some particular events. They have discovered a monomolecular gold, things that don't exist in our world, information, technical things that we don't know about.

We don't know about them. You read Zecharia Sitchin's books, he talks about it. There have been investigations. The Israelis went there, the Americans went there, the Romans kept... I'm telling you, it's kept 24 hours a day.

The world is boiling in Romania.

After the Americans started the war, and they took and stole things, probably, I don't know.

Because there are tablets, there are secrets, there are the manuscripts of the dead mother, etc. Things that should not be revealed and that at some point in our civilization must be hidden because it is not the time to reveal them. And it is better that it is in a, in the 17th basement of a building, than to display it in a museum.

So here Patrice is talking about the Mount Boussegi, you heard it, a mountain that would be kept 24 hours a day in Romania, in which there would be a type of gold that has never been found on Earth, a type of gold apart, there would also be manuscripts of the Dead Sea inside, in any case, that's his version. What do we know about Mount Bussegi, which is the official version? Well, I didn't know.

Really, I had... You never heard of it?

No, but I discovered it with this show, so I looked it up. It's a mountain range, 130 km from Bucharest,

which is not monitored 24 hours a day, and which is actually visitable.

So, where do all these theories come from, around this Montbussier-Gilles? Is there a reason? Yes, in fact, at the base, it's a kind of mythology that comes from esoteric books written by an author who is Radu Sinamar, who is not covered by any tangible evidence

and who wrote all this story himself.

Do you ever get into questions about subjects? Do you sometimes, when you talk to someone, or you are obtained on subjects and you do not change your mind, or do you happen to discuss with other people, other conspiracy theorists, free thinkers, call them as you want, and who make you change your mind because, in the end,

or other people who are not conspiracy theorists but who prove you,

you know, do you happen to...

They can't bear proof.

Neither can you.

The arguments that I am opposed to have not the same value as those that I expose. When we don't know, we want to believe that we know. And so, we invent things. That's the subject. I'm not here to destroy any of your arguments, nothing.

What makes me convinced of what I say? Because, indeed, I have no more proof than the one who is not a conspiracy theorist. You tell me about planes that hit the towers. I tell you that these are not airliners, I tell you that these are drones, compared to the investigations that I have been able to conduct, to the articles that I've been able to read articles on both sides.

Do you meet people who have lost people in September 11th? Yes. In the planes? Yes.

There are some. Meet them.

They should be organized. Well, let's show them to us.

There have been plenty of reports with people who have lost their children, their parents. In the planes. They went, didn't they? But I'm sorry. Take a ticket, go to New York, you can meet them.

I'm sorry, Guillaume, but I'm not obliged to believe that these people were really

in the plane.

But that's why.

When you see… You have the right to think. Really, you take a ticket, you put on your seatbelt, you take off to Orly, you go to New York and you meet families. And you'll see that it's true. Because that's the limit. I hear that you ask yourself questions,

and that everyone asks themselves questions, and the one who believes in everything is good, the one who believes in a theory of computations is allowed, the one who believes in two theories is allowed, everyone has the right to think. But why don't you go to the end of the subject? The problem is that there are levels of consciousness,

there are levels of comprehension. You have people who will understand basic mathematics, then you have others who will end up as researchers in quantum physics. It's mathematics, but you don't have the same level. Between a professor of communal studies in OCMA and Etienne Klein, for example. So, from the moment someone says,

here, I bring you the proof, look, I'm telling you because I've been there, from the moment he says it, it's biblical. You have to believe it, absolutely. I think there are other things beyond that. I think the world we live in is a material world, and that there is beyond that.

And it was Nikola Tesla who said that we can only understand man in terms of waves, frequencies and energy. Nikola Tesla said that.

But he was talking about electricity 100 years ago.

Yes, but he was also talking about humans. And he also said that we will only be able to understand science when we go to the other side of science. We have to go much further. But our problem is that we are embodied. We live in a material world.

But beyond this material world, there are vibratory worlds. And we don't have access to these worlds. Because we don't have access, they don't exist.

Are you religious?

It's difficult to answer this question like that. Religious would mean being part of a religion. I am neither Catholic, nor Orthodox, nor of any religion. On the other hand, a creative spirit exists. And this creative spirit is a mathematician. Because without this creative spirit, without this initial source,

you would not have the number Pi, you would not have the number of gold, and you would not have the Fibonacci curve. Only an engineer, a mathematician can do that.

I see you have a mathematical formula on your arm, tattooed. What is it?

So, this is the equation of Dirac, of Paul Dirac, which means gamma mu, factor of i dρ-eμψ, equals mψ. Why did I do that? Because I think it's the most beautiful equation in the world. It exceeds e equals mc². Because this equation connects the infinitely large to the infinitely small. This equation will come one day,

when physicists will find a way to understand what it means to link the two ends and to travel through time. Some of them know how to do it. But, at the moment, on Netflix, a film called The Exorcism of Tamara was released. This film was directed by a director called Guillermo Amoedo.

It was made in 2017. In this film, there is a sequence where we see a TV screen with written below The death of Pope Leo XIV in 2017 How did Amoedo know in 2017

that Pope Francis' successor would be Leo XIV? But I can also take you, you're totally right and I can take you 20 movies where it's written Pope Louis VI, Pope... Because in fact there was LeoIII, so they added a number, they put Leon XIV.

And in fact, out of the 20 fictions that there are in the last 30 years, there is one that is a good fit. That's where the limit is. But you have the right to believe what you want. I have the right to believe that too. And in fact, I think it's just a stroke of luck. The Simpsons, there are a lot of things. Have you seen the Simpsons? Yes.

Have you seen the Simpsons? There are a lot of things. But it's normal, they did 12,000 episodes.

But that's what Mike was saying.

Well, of course.

Hollywood reveals you. It puts you in the spotlight. Are you sure it hurts you?

Yes, but I'm kidding. They're just directors at home, making films, and at some point, things just happen. But that's normal. Out of 12,000 episodes, I don't know how long the seasons last, there are always five things that happen in the last 100 episodes that correspond to reality.

You have the right to believe it. No worries, you have the right to believe it.

No, but you have the right to believe it too. So, he's talking about time travel, Patrice, because on Netflix in 2017, there was the exorcism of Tamara, a movie that came out. On the back of the character, on a TV, it said, ''Death of Pope Leo XIV'',

when at the time, Pope Leo XIV was not a pope. You saw the image, it's true that it's surprising, but to be there, time travel... I didn't go the news for the show's needs because I find it super interesting, and I'm already excited to answer that. It's a statistical question. Statistically... Imagine all the media that comes out in a year.

Take movies, series, books, whatever you want. There will be science fiction series, movies,

that will address an element in the future...

That will hit hard! And I'm talking about that because there's a recurring joke about The Simpsons. There are a lot of The Simpsons. The Simpsons have been going on for I don't know how many years, for decades. 30 years!

So, out of thousands of episodes of The Simpsons, you're going to come across a few where they predict the future in a terrifying way. Because, by statistical effect, sometimes... It happens. People have ideas...

It's a stroke of luck.

It's a stroke of luck, yeah.

Would a time travel be possible?

We're talking about that, but have there ever been tests?

Have they ever tried to do things with that?

Time travel, in itself, if we want to laugh for two minutes,

that's what we're doing right now.

We're traveling in the future at the rate of one second per second. Now, if you talk about the image we still have in science fiction movies, of time travel,

there are several things that prevent that.

The first is the grandfather paradox,

which makes it very complicated to have time travel.

There are some scientists who have thought about the subject

in a purely theoretical way, but today, it's obviously impossible.

Because if it ever existed, or if it existed,

it would have already been the case. Because we would have already had guys from the future who would have come back to our past.

It's a bit weird, we're a bit in the future's backdrop.

In reality, it's a dream, but it's not possible.

Otherwise, the past, the present and the future are at the same time.

So you can come back.

On Earth, we would have had guys who would have come back from the future.

We are condemned to travel in time for a second. Just, why didn't you go and check by yourself if the Earth was flat? I don't understand. I thought the Earth was flat, it's the only goal of my life. Well, listen... Take a plane and go see Antarctica. But a plane, you won't see anything. Well, yes, you get dropped off, you walk.

You do an expedition, you organize yourself with guys. Well, listen... If you think there is a wall of ice, why don't you go all the way to the other side? I'll explain. First of all, I don't think the Earth is flat. You mean it's a shape like a ball?

Yes, it is. If you admit that the planet is bigger, according to the calculation I made you do earlier, the 156 km of distance that brings the planet the area where we live is at this place, you can very well understand that the curvature, instead of being like this on a planet of 40,000 km, it is like this. It is a little less curved.

It is less curved. You can admit it. But have you seen the crust of the Earth. 400 km away, it can see the Earth from above already.

Indeed, the ISS is 400 km away.

But it can't see anything. It's like you take a orange and you put 2 mm of the orange in it.

No, we can see the cameras on the ISS, when the Earth is rotating, you can still see that it's round and it's a ball. A wide angle? Yes, exactly. You can see even better that it's a ball.

With a wide angle, it's certain that you'll see that it's round. Exactly. Yes, that's what they do. Because they're not high enough, they put a wide angle so that it has a backward effect. But like that, we can see very well. As soon as you take a wide angle... That's not an argument for me. I understand. No problem. Take a camera with a wide angle and you'll see that you have less straight lines, more curves.

Well, any photographer can do that. But you can see that the ground is round as soon as it turns. The only satellite, the highest one we have, is the space station.

Thomas Pesquet is in weightlessness. We can see he's in the air.

Everything is not true, in what we show you.

You think that's false?

I'm not saying that it's false. I'm saying that some images are true. Those images, the general public has no access to them. And Thomas Pesquet himself, himself, live, on a TV set,

said it when he was sent to go to the Moon, the first French to go to the Moon, what did Thomas Pesquet answer? He said, Oh, but where we can go today is 400 km. The Moon is 400,000, it's something else.

He knows perfectly well that we have never exceeded Van Halen's belt.

So you think that the Earth, the images of your spaceship are false? We can see the planet Earth, there are already pictures of the planet Earth.

There are some pictures that are true, but yes, but of course, there are some pictures that are true, but not all of them.

But we can see, when there is a picture that was taken from the Moon by the lenses, we can see the Earth, we can see that there is nothing behind. You said it looked like a kippa on a ball, we can see that there is no ball.

You are right, Guillaume, I will tell you why you are right, it's because the photos, before being put in the public eye, are not retouched.

Ah, you think that... The problem is that you can say anything, but we can't say anything. Yes, look.

There you go.

There's no more excuses.

There you go. But you have...

It's to that we're serving.

No, I'm not saying that to you, Guillaume, because you're kind enough to invite me to your set, and I can hear very well that you're skeptical. Wait, I've been confronted with skepticism since I was interested in conspiracy theories. I never invented conspiracy theories.

So you don't agree with the flat earthers? It's another movement.

Yes, there are things that... When they are accused of... They are told that the flat earthers think the earth is flat, that it's a disc that spins... Well... I don't see why they are being accused like that.

I find it ridiculous. Personally, I think that the area where we live, where the human being lives, the human beings...

So what is the human being? And then we talk about the Soi Enme.

The human being is the one who opposes the man of Parthenogenesis.

Oh, fuck.

There are new words there.

We have to store them.

Oh, but conspiracy is a serious business.

So, wait, so, explain to me if you don't mind, explain to us the difference between the two, according to you.

The Adamic Man is from an initial source. It is the divine creation.

So, what are you?

I am a human, an atomic man. You are an atomic man.

Yes.

So these are the humans, let's say, the classic ones. Yes. Because there are reptilians too.

But among them, there are people who are infiltrated by exogenous civilizations.

So what does exogenous mean?

Who live outside our world, beyond the ice. Extraterrestrials, you mean? Or aliens. I'll tell you something, Guillaume. I think you're going to make the biggest laugh of your life.

Don't say that, I already want to laugh. But that's why I'm saying that, to free you. I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm scared.

Because with what you told me before, it wasn't bad. You know what the part that isn't our world is made of, that is, our Earth, where the Adamic Men live? What is beyond the ice wall? The ice wall is an energy barrier.

For me, there is no ice wall. There is a ball with water, and we are on it. But for you, there is a border that is a border of ice. Be careful, we call that the ice wall.

It's an energy belt.

So, what's on the other side?

What's on the other side? On the other side, there is... Hang on, because it's going to be hot. Not just for you, by the way. For the 2.6 million listeners. Beyond the ice wall, there are civilizations that are from other worlds,

that come from far away and that have been among us for a long time, for millions of years. Some have left and others stayed. I should tell you about the Jung experience. I tell you, we're going to do a series of 10 shows, you're going to invite me back one day.

And in their world, there are, like in our world, races and sub-races. There is, for example, the Galactic Federation. But beyond this Federation...

It's getting crazy here.

But beyond this Galactic Federation, there is an Intergalactic Confederation. And above this Intergalactic Confederation, there is what we call the Council of Nine.

No, but wait, you're getting this wrong.

This Council of Nine... No, but...

No, no, but wait, I'm listening to you. You promised to listen to me.

I'm listening to you. I understand perfectly that what I'm saying here escapes 99.99% of the human consciousness. I understand it perfectly. Don't you think it's a bit of a push? No, because there are writings, stories that have been published and read by people much more influential than me, much more intelligent

in all areas of science, literature, philosophy. I'm talking about the Dead Sea Manuscripts. I'm talking about...

It's still words, you know.

Yes, but...

It's a common denominator, of nonsense. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Dead Sea Manuscripts are not nonsense.

No, no, no, it's not that.

I'm saying, be careful, you know, galactic words, manuscripts, stuff... And you know, it's never too verifiable. And that's just it. I've had the chance to visit a lot of things in my life, to make a lot of documentaries and to see a lot of things.

And in fact, we often have the impression that we are being hidden from things, while in fact, sometimes, there are choices made by political men, completely ubious, completely disconnected from reality. At first, I thought there were conspiracy theories on many subjects. I thought, damn, it's not possible, they do it on purpose, whether it's crazy, their decisions, it's nonsense. And in fact, I think it's sometimes just a lack of courage, full of politics,

or just decisions that are completely disconnected. But I also learned to have military bases, to be able to visit things, and to realize that in the end, it's a little more disappointing than all that.

Guillaume, I didn't come here to convince you. I came here to expose some elements of the world we live in, of the cosmogony in which we live. In everything I'm telling you here, there are references that are different from those of the Internet and YouTube. There are writings, called the writings, the manuscripts of the dead sea. You have a civilization, the Sumerian civilization, which left writings, traces,

which were studied, decoded, deciphered. Anton Parks published books on it. Anton Parks learned Sumerian. When he publishes his books, he doesn't talk about YouTube.

I'm not Anton Parks.

Well, there you go. Take an interest in the work of Anton Parks, Anton and Annaelle Parks. Take an interest in Zecharia Sitchin's works, take an interest in Eladah Danan's personality, and you will see that there are some disturbing things.

I listen to these things, I read them, I study them, I look at them, I say to myself, there is certainly something true in what is published there, something founded. Now, I am not a scientist, I was a micromechanic, I did micromechanics, I did cinema, I know what a film is, what it is made of, I know the light,

but I am not a physicist. I'm not going to pretend that I can understand what Etienne Klein tells me at the first act. When I listen to Etienne Klein, I have to go back to the sequence twice. Because there are things that, in quantum mechanics, I'm absolutely nullified, but amazing.

Quantum physics, for me, it's 10 floors above my head. But I listen.

Yes, but I have the impression that after, the problem of conspiracy theory is that sometimes, it can go crazy by searching, you know, all your conspiracies.

It's just that.

There can be subjects.

I can guarantee you one thing, I have never been interned in my life.

So here, Patrice we are Adamic men, but several other civilizations and energies live with us on Earth, and not on the whole planet, but on a small part called Earth. So we are Adamic men. What do we know about all this, Justin?

It's a fairly old theory, which mixes different religious concepts. The sources I found that were quite interesting, and that were linked to what you're telling me, are the theses of the ancient astronauts, that date back to the 60s, who say that there are aliens,

or at least another civilization that would have come to Earth to bring about changes. It's based on, at least according to my research, on the idea that the gods would be real characters and that they would have had an impact on the planet. There is no real source, of course, you can imagine.

So, are the manuscripts of the Dead Sea that Patrick is talking about, really existing? Yes, they really existed. They are religious texts. It's a set of 900 manuscripts that were discovered in Cisjordany.

It's mostly written in Hebrew between the 3rd century BC and the 1st century AD. Do these parchments speak of another life, another human civilization on planet Earth than ours?

No, not really. What you will find are mentions of celestial beings, mentions of spiritual entities, but again, in the context of religious documents, so it's not very surprising,

and it doesn't particularly corroborate a theory like the one you're talking about.

You see, for example, chemtrails. We can talk about it if you want. It's a subject that comes back in the top 3 in the number of messages on the network. A debate, in conspiracy theories. A chemtrail is the tracings of planes, behind the planes of lines, that is, all the aircraft, in the sky,

there are white trails, which we will call condensation. We could imagine it as an exhaust of the aircraft which leaves a trace for a long time. It's condensation when there is a certain atmospheric condition. So some people think that it's... Do you believe in it or not?

Oh, well, of course not! So you're going to explain it better than me. What do you think these lines are?

Chemtrails?

If it's not condensation behind the planes, what is it?

Chemtrails, that is, these planes that send metallic particles to cover the sun, since there is warming, and we're going to die from global warming in the years to come. We will all die. Today's ecology is no longer ecology, it is eschology.

Let's go back to the planes. Why would they do that?

Why would they do that?

The airline pilots disagree with that.

You mentioned it earlier when it suited you. If you find me a line pilot who will tell you that it exists, then I'll give you my hat. Because if one day your guest...

But why aren't there any? Because it's not true. But as soon as you bring up the subject,

the next morning, the guy has to give his license.

But you think there are... There are plenty of people who don't give a shit about their job. You don't think that, honestly... You don't think that retirees, let's say, would have thrown up?

Well, listen...

If it had been true... Because you quote airline pilots when it suits you, on business, but in this case, you also quote them on the fact that they say that chemtrails are fake.

Guillaume, listen, I'll summarize the thing for you. It's fake. It doesn't exist. To such an extent that Florida, last week, just published a law to ban all planes that throw heavy metals into the sky. So, in Florida, the governor of Florida published a law to ban something that doesn't exist. There you go, the debate is over.

Don't you think it's also fair for other reasons that they forbid?

I don't have the thing, you're taking me for a fool,

so it's easy to say, we're discussing and then you tell me,

two days ago, Europe forbade...

You'll see, but wait, what I'm telling you here,

it's filmed, it's recorded, it's filmed. So if I say something stupid, I'll be considered ridiculous. You'll check it. You'll see if it's not true. So you think all airline pilots lie when they say it's false?

I know a lot of them.

Yes, you can lie by omission, you can lie by action...

You can imagine that people who would fill these tanks

with I don't know what products...

But these are planes that are not on-line. That's not true. So you look at... No way! Wait, let me explain myself on the subject. You take an application called Flyradar. You know? It allows you to know which plane is above you. I love doing it.

I'm on vacation with my son, we see a plane, we look, ah, he's going to Chicago. It's like he's travelling with it. It's great, this app. You see the plane. It's a straight plane. And yet there's a white line behind it. Condensation.

Water vapor.

Have you seen the diagrams it draws in the sky? Sometimes there's one, and sometimes there's a lot of them. Have you seen how they intersect?

Yes, because planes intersect in the air.

Well, listen, listen, I'll never be able to convince you anyway.

No, but it's normal that they intersect because planes intersect.

You're right.

And sometimes the weather conditions make it stay a few... But anyway, I just told you... ...ten minutes?

I just told you, Guillaume, I told you, chemtrails don't exist. that in Florida they have just passed a law to prohibit the overflights of Florida by these planes that throw heavy metals.

That's it.

So it doesn't exist.

So here Patrice is talking about chemtrails, chemtrails, it depends, some people pronounce it differently. Basically, it's the white trails that are behind the planes, behind the plane reactors, in the sky,

and that the planes leave as a trace. He thinks that it are chemical products that were made to sterilize the population, to kill the population, to poison people on the ground. So they are spread by planes. What do we know about it, rationally? What is it that is traced behind the planes? It's something you can see when planes fly over the sky.

It's highly documented. It's simple, it's condensation.

You have engines that are very hot,

in a very cold air at the top,

and so, the water condenses very quickly.

If someone wanted to spread products on the population,

is that the best solution, to do it behind an airplane? No, well, first, you would be very burned out,

in a very realistic way, because we would have...

Since the time this phenomenon exists, we would have images of people loading weird barrels, someone would have spoken about something...

There would be pictures...

There would be pictures, there would be something,

someone somewhere would have spoken...

Imagine, in all the countries of the world!

You'd have a guy on an airport who would have filmed a...

A guy would have snapped, you see...

And above all, it's not the most practical method, because you control nothing.

You put a product, you put a super high like that, it has to fall in the right place.

Basically, you're going to waste more products than anything else.

It's not very practical.

To confirm what he says, he explains that in Florida, there is a law that has just been voted,

which prohibits planes from dropping products into the sky.

Does this law exist and what is it for?

This law exists.

It prohibits, to be precise, the meteorological modification by dispersion of chemical products in its atmosphere. And it's important to remember that, in the end,

a local legislator responds to the expectations of the population.

So if you have a large group, like in Florida,

of people who believe in that,

they believe that there are things, that we have drawn planes, etc.,

if they go to the mayor,

they go to the governor, saying,

we have to do something,

the governor responds to the expectations of the population. It doesn't mean that there's something going on behind it.

And besides, in some countries, it's possible, we can change, we can make the clouds fall.

They've already tested it over the desert, for example,

with planes to drop...

You're talking about Dubai.

There are several countries where they've done it.

Experiments on it. It's not the same subject, but it can exist. Because of the meteorological modification by chemical products dispersion... It can encompass all these methods.

There is no subject that I avoid.

No, but... Guillaume, I appreciate you a lot. Not only you as a person, but your show.

It's adorable, thank you.

So, when you oppose me your arguments, I listen to them. You don't believe in mine. I think you haven't studied the subjects enough. Maybe I have, or maybe I see them.

I haven't studied each subject. My goal is to let the guest speak. That's the goal of the show. I never give my opinion. It's more of a game of arguments where I confront my personal idea with yours, without judgment.

Sorry, I cut you off, sorry. But you know, there are a lot of people like you in my circle who, when I explain my vision of things on certain subjects, tell me, you're crazy, my guy, my neighbor told me. A neighbor that I love and that loves me too. And when I tell him that, he tells me, but Patrice, you're really crazy.

Well, I...

He doesn't even bother to listen to what... to develop my arguments. You see, even here it's complicated. Because you saw how we go in different ways, in different ways, all at once. I'm listening to you on the subject of vaccines.

So, the subject of vaccines. In my opinion, there was a will to eliminate a large majority of the terrestrial population.

In a definitive way, by death, and also by sterilization. This vaccine may not have only this goal, but in large part. For the rest, COVID is not a virus,

it is a plan. It's the organized plot aimed at the establishment of a dictatorship. It's Covid, or if you want, the mandatory vaccination certificate and digital identity. That's Covid, it's a plan. That's what the conspiracy theorists called at the time, the pandemic plan.

It's also simply a virus.

No, no, the Covid is a plan. The virus is something else. So we were thrown theories on it. It came from a variant of the pangolin. Then we were given, I don't know what theory.

It was't clear.

Oh no, it wasn't clear.

So, to mix up the pencils, they mixed up from the beginning to the end. And a disease that comes, they all tried to find causes, there are mistakes. You know, we don't say that everything is perfect.

At the time of treating people with an effective treatment, which was discussed by Professor Raoult, Livermectin, has been withdrawn from the market.

Are you a doctor?

No, but I listened to Raoult. How many people did he treat with his method? Okay? And look at the side effects that there are today. Look at the side effects that there are after this vaccination.

Did you get vaccinated or not?

Certainly not! So now I'm going to tell you, they won't have me. And I'll even tell you something.

They won't have me.

Ah no, they won't have me. And I was ready for anything to not get vaccinated. And if one day it has to start again, I prefer to eat the leaves of my trees than go to a hospital to get an injection. I'll explain why. My mom is 99 years old.

And if you saw her condition, you wouldn't believe it. She's 70. She was 95 years old during Covid. And I'm going to tell you, the Covid took her by surprise. Something serious. She took antibiotics because she had respiratory problems, but phenomenal.

She took them for a few days, and then I said to my mom, wait, before going to the doctor or the hospital or getting stitches, I'm going to treat you differently. And I treated her differently. By a method that I won't say here. Because if I say the method I used to treat her,

we're going to delete this method by the next pandemic. So I won't talk about it. And I myself...

I don't talk about it. And myself... I don't understand. You're treating her, why can't you say it?

Because I don't want to say how I treated my mother. Because otherwise, I risk bringing harm to this treatment. And we risk suppressing it. So I don't want to say it.

Ah, with another drug, you mean?

Yes.

Ah yes, alright.

So, I told my mother, no, stop taking those things, I'm going to treat you differently. It took a little longer, she dragged it on for at least 15 days, for 15 days she was shaken up, and me too, because she gave it to me.

I treated myself in 7 days, with my treatment. Without being vaccinated? And your mother was not vaccinated? No. And she got the Omicron behind. She got the variant. Well, I got my treatment back.

Perfect. In a week it was over.

But unfortunately, I have the impression that it was a bit of a lottery. I mean, there are people who were younger, more athletic, who died. Absolutely.

Others, older ones who are... We don't have the same anamnesis. The same what? Anamnesis. I mean, the... How to say... The same reaction to the disease.

So, that means that... Everyone reacted differently, everyone caught a different virus, there were evolutions, at first they were more aggressive, etc. So it's very complicated to talk about that. But you think the vaccine wasn't good. It's your opinion.

40 pages of side effects.

40 pages of side effects published by Pfizer. But you think that it was done to make the population sterile? It didn't work, then?

We are too many, we keep telling ourselves that.

But it didn't work. Oh no, they messed up. They messed up, you mean, on the vaccines? Yes. I'm a perfect example. I got vaccinated twice. I don't judge anyone, what they did, what they didn't do. Everyone does what they want.

You fell for...

I had children since. Great, but wait, good for you. But indeed, there are some who got vaccinated and had health issues.

Yes. You agree that in these vaccines, there was protein spike, there was graphene, and nanotech?

How many years did you do medicine to know that? Have you seen articles of people who want... Be careful too, of foreign interference. There's another subject, that's it. No, but it's a real subject. If we want to talk about everything, we have to talk about the general subject. There are a lot of foreign interference that are made to destabilize,

that we doubt the State, that we doubt the President, that we doubt ... I don't care about all that, it's not my subject, it'm not interested, but... Be careful, there are also a lot of interference, or with false articles, that will make you believe that we are trying to poison you, also to make a mess in the country. And, on the contrary, there are also sometimes vaccines

that are surely very poorly dosed, that have caused damage and deaths. You see, I'm not saying... But you have to try to be fair.

OK. I think it's important. I know a lot of people around me who have been vaccinated, two or three doses, and they're wearing like a charm, they have nothing. But I'm not the one who said there were batches. It was announced. But batches, yes, it's made by batches.

It's made by bath. Well, yes. So when there are a thousand vaccines in a pot. You may have put a batch with of things in it, and then you may have had lots of things in it, and then you may have had people who, despite the fact that they were vaccinated by a powerful vaccine, have a resistance because they have a natural immunity that allows them to react.

The football players who fall stiff on the stadium,

the singers who fall stiff on the stage, you saw all that. You're totally right, but we are 7 billion. I just gave you a part of it, but unfortunately, football players who have cardiac arrest because they push the plug or because they have a heart failure and it turned out at some point, it happened before the Covid. It happened on many well-known matches,

live on TV, where unfortunately, players die. It happened before COVID, do you agree with me?

Not as much.

And singers on stage, unfortunately, there were already before, we won't list them all, but there were a lot who died

in a show or just after.

But first, those I saw collapse on stage... But that's not why... those I saw collapse on stage. Were they vaccinated? I don't know. Exactly. I think there are people who pretended to be vaccinated, but they weren't. Including politicians, probably. You see, you have to say things.

So here, Patrice is talking about COVID-19 and vaccines and why they were created. I will first recall exactly and historically what happened with the maximum number of figures, we will try to document them. The COVID-19 pandemic caused by the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus began at the end of 2019 in China,

before spreading rapidly all over the world, causing millions of deaths. There were measures such as lockdown at the time, wearing a mask and vaccination that were put in place to slow the spread of the virus. So if we listen to Patrice, he actually says that COVID and vaccines

are a plan to eliminate the population on a large scale, by death or sterilization. The vaccine, basically, he said, was supposed to make it sterile, but it failed. At the time of COVID, there were a lot of theories, precisely, around vaccines. Do we have figures on people who are convinced of that too. There was a study that was broadcast in Le Monde in 2020 that showed that 43% of French people

actually believed in these theories.

Do we know how many people refused to get vaccinated at the time?

The figures I was able to find are about 6% of the French population who were not vaccinated against COVID-19 in mid-2022.

At the time of the pandemic, how many vaccines were developed?

There are many. In fact, as of the pandemic, how many vaccines were developed? There are many. In fact, from August 2021, it was about 110 vaccines that were authorized or that were in the clinical study phase. And among those, we will find 21 different ones that have been approved by at least one national authority for public use. Do we know what is really in vaccines? Are there components? Is it explained? Is there public information? Yes, it's explained, it's public. It depends on the vaccine you're talking about, because we have several different ones. You can find the compositions on the Internet. There's a source, by the way, that I'll let people watch,

that I found, that you can show. I'll put all of that in the description, if you want to see it. Every time, everything is documented. We tried to put all the links of Henri Hardisk Covid-19 has caused 7 million deaths worldwide. Source World Health Organization data. So we found this figure. Do we know if vaccines were responsible

for damaging certain people's health, or even killing people? Were there any undesirable effects?

First, we have to remember something that I find very important. In these cases, it's not my job to do medicine. I think that, especially when we talk about very important subjects that affect people's health, etc., it's important to have a health professional and not to act on his health

in relation to things we could see on the Internet, even from me, from anyone whose job it is not. That being said, the things to say that are, I think, important on this subject, are to recall the figures of the WHO, the World of 2022, there was a report

from the European Medicines Agency which reports about 11,448 deaths reported after a vaccination in the European Union. And that's where there's something interesting, because, I just told you that, it's not because you just got vaccinated against COVID-19,

and then you die, that these two elements are linked.

And it's the work of public health regulators in France and in all countries

to do what is called pharmacovigilance,

that is, once a medical product has been put on the market,

to do the tracking, the traceability, and to make sure that everything works.

And according to Patrice, there is a remedy that had been found

by Professor Didier Raoult, who was the hydroxychloroquine and the ivermectin.

He had to withdraw it after his study.

He explained it to us. For him, it's proof of his theory. What do we know about Professor Raoult and why it was withdrawn at the time? First, you say in your question that the fact that the study was withdrawn is proof.

If all the studies that were withdrawn were actually true,

we wouldn't get away with it at all. So the fact that the study was withdrawn

is not a proof that the study was actually true,

but that it was hidden. The study was withdrawn not for nothing, in fact. It's a study from March 2020

on these two products that you mentioned,

hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, against COVID.

At first, there is a about earlier in the show, when something big happens, a big pandemic,

it's a bit of a mess.

Everyone is trying to understand what's going on,

to find a cure, a treatment, something.

And so here we have this case, where this person says,

ah, this thing seems to be working.

So at first, there are hopes that come up.

And then, indeed, this study was retracted in December 2024 by the magazine that published it. And why was it withdrawn? It was withdrawn because there was no solid witness group, the sample size was too small and there were bias in the selection of data. Before we finish, because there are really a lot of subjects, the reptilians. It's a subject that we hear a lot about too, like what some human beings wouldn't be like us.

I saw that on presidents of foreign countries, how they would be reptilians. What does that mean exactly? Do you believe in it? What do you think about it? Can you give us some information?

I'll give you some information. You know the Davos club, the Davos forum. The Davos forum. It's an organization founded by Mr. Klaus Schwab, who is no longer president, he was replaced by President Wittel. This Davos club brings together the world's greatest fortunes.

They dictate the world's political and economic situation. Not only them. There is BlackRock, CFR, the Bilderberg Group, you have many. How do you explain, in other words, maybe to make fun of him, that Mr. Klaus Schwab opens a session of this forum in Davos in a black mage's costume?

Is it to make fun of him? He invites the greatest fortunes in the world and he arrives in the tribune in a black mage's costume? As a conspiracy theorist, I think that maybe this person has contacts with exogenous intelligences. Maybe he is infiltrated by these exogenous intelligences.

So you will say...

What is exogenous?

It's what is not part of our Adamic world.

What is the Adamic world?

It's the original creation of God, of this consciousness, of this source.

So, are there reptilians, according to you?

Well, yes, of course. Of course. There are Dracos, there are Pleiadians, there are Arcturians. On the other side of the ice wall. You understand? But that...

Excuse me if I laugh, it's because...

No, no, no, but... You're absolutely right. Actually, I explained... Because it's so huge.

I want a word... I consider people to be a moment of life. And if I was with a cousin, a friend, an uncle, a thing, in a dinner and they told me something like that, if I laughed, if I wanted to laugh in that dinner, I think I have to laugh here.

I live a show as I live a moment of life. Because otherwise...

Guillaume, I don't take it seriously.

After, there are some who will say, yes, but he laughed, while I believe it.

But no, no, no.

Everyone.

But I'm subject to that every day. So it's normal that you laugh at what I say. Your daughter and your wife believe that? What?

Your daughter and your wife believe that?

My daughter, she is shared, but when I show her documents that I don't have, for example, she asks herself questions. Ah, here. And I told you something about my wife, for example. She and I, we are... We get along perfectly,

and intellectually, we are the same. I told you something. Mr. Vladimir Putin, a few years ago, he had a disease. I don't remember what exactly.

He went to the clinic. When he came back, his wife left him. Why? Because she didn't recognize him anymore.

You don't know.

I totally agree with you. Except that... Except that... And I reacted like you. When I heard people saying, his wife left him because he's not the same person who left the clinic,

he was replaced, you see. I smile.

Lebanon.

There are not only conspiracies in France, there are in Russia too. And when he came out of the clinic, my wife told me,

it's not the same. I said, how is it not the same?

She said, it's not the same eyes.

I said, stop it.

How is it not the same eyes? No, it's not the same eyes. I said, stop it! What do you mean it's not the same eyes? No, it's not Putin's eyes.

Doesn't that mean...

So? ...that it's a high-level retention? I'm not telling you that Putin is not Putin, that he's another, that he's a clone, that he's been invested by exogenous intelligences, that they infiltrated him, that reptilians have entered him, and that they dictate to him what he must do.

I'm not telling you that. I'm just saying that... my wife noticed that.

But you think so.

So, I say... Well, then...

Like, I see President Macron, and he does this at the end. And there are all the triangles and everything. Be careful, all politicians do this to try not to move their fingers, to show signs of stress too. It's a thing, you put yourself like this, like that, you cross your fingers, like that, you put yourself like that.

Well, there are several ways to do it. And suddenly, you know, bam, I saw the guys drawing triangles and everything in his hand. It's good to ask questions, but be careful not to ask questions about anything and everything. By thinking that we are smarter than the others.

There is nothing worse than that. It's not at all what I think of myself, believe me. So you think there are reptilians? How do we recognize reptilians? Ah, how do we recognize them? I would be unable to tell you how we recognize them. Incapable. You see, when you say, I was telling you, there are personalities in our world that are invested by external energies, from exogenous worlds.

What are the Christians going to tell you about this? The Catholics? Ah, he is possessed by the devil! He is possessed by the devil. The devil has entered into it and it manipulates it. That's all. Is there only this interpretation or isn't there, for example, ultraplanetary or intraplanetary or extraplanetary or intra-planetary or extra-planetary that would be able to cross inter-dimensional corridors

or organic portals to come to us, to infiltrate certain people, who they use to do certain things in our world. I'm not saying I believe in it.

In fact, you are a conspiracy theorist on all subjects.

Almost.

Multicart. Ah, here subjects. Almost. Multi-card. Here we go!

Multi-card plotter. You think the Earth would be at the center of the universe, not the Sun? You think we don't turn? Even the solar system doesn't believe it.

So, so... Before we were told the Earth was round, Ptolemy or others told us it was flat. Yes, but before we didn't have a measuring instrument. Yes, of course we didn't have a measuring instrument. Okay.

We must also accept that we are learning. Look, today medicine is very happy that it is evaluated.

I'm going to ask you a question. Go ahead. I mean, I'm going to question you. Marconi did an experiment. He wanted to know if we could come to the rescue of a lost boat in the ocean, at a very long distance.

So, what did he do? He had to do this experiment in Italy, and then, finally, he didn't get permission, it was under Mussolini. He went to Cornwall, in the south of England, in a city called Poldu. He set up a huge antenna,

a gigantic transmitter, and he sent a signal to Newfoundland, 4,500 km. The signal arrived, loud and clear, he said, my experience is great, we can send signals long distance,

it will serve the sailors who are lost at sea. And Marconi was not the last of the morons, he said to himself, we could are lost at sea. And Marconi, who is not the last of the morons, thought that he could do better. He sent a signal to Australia, on the other side of the Earth.

The planet Earth, we agree. It is 20,000 miles away, that is, half the circumference of the planet. He sent his signal, he had made a much more frequent antenna, with a huge transmitter, a signal of the fire of God, and the signal arrived in Australia, in Sydney.

Explain to me how the signal coming from Poldu arrives on the other side of the planet? So, before you answer, I will give you the answer and you'll agree with me. It's easy. The signal is reflected on the ionosphere and it arrives on the other side. No engineer, no specialist has said, well, we'll do better. We'll go around the signal and it'll come back to Paul Duh.

And at some point, it stops.

That's it.

Then you think about it. Why does it stop? And how does it stop?

Maybe you need a specialist to explain the waves.

Yes, of course.

You'd understand better.

Of course.

No, but it's true.

Yes, yes.

You need understand better. Of course. But it's true. He was a specialist. But no one did the experiment. No one did the experiment. Go to Antarctica, take a plane.

No one.

No, no, I'm talking about the Marconi signal. No one did the experiments and everyone says they didn't do the experiments. The experiment, it made no sense. Because we know the Earth is round. The 32nd of September center of the solar system. I don't believe it. What? That geocentrism is the truth.

That the center of the Earth, well, the center of the solar system is the Earth. That it is the Sun that revolves around the Earth. I find it hard to believe. Ah, so it's a first conspiracy theory that you don't fully agree with. I find it hard to believe. I find it hard to believe. I can't believe it. But what is surprising is that there are still 200 scientists in the world today,

not idiots, we could name 2 or 3, who are professors at universities, engineers in physics, there is another one who is a specialist in mathematics, and they defend the thesis of geocentrism. Wow! Excuse me, I'm a noob, I haven't written a book, I don't have a YouTube channel, the only articles that talk about my theories are more in Russia than in France, so I'm not going to compare myself to those people, OK? But they explain you, they have arguments, they are university professors. And if you look closely, not only do they explain it,

but in Prague, there is a clock that shows it to you. That's all. So, you can believe in the theory of heliocentocentrism theory or geocentrism theory, but both sides have strong arguments.

What year was this clock made?

Wow! It's a long time ago. It was made in the Middle Ages. She said it all. Yes, but... Burn the heretics. Yes, today we want to burn the conspirators.

It's not better. But this watchmaker has mechanically demonstrated that the thing...

Nobody burned the conspirators. No, but it's coming back. And since the Middle Ages, we have come back to a lot of subjects, fortunately. But this watchmaker built this watch by mechanically demonstrating the possibility of a geocentric system. Yes, but we can redo everything. Yes, but we can do everything again. Ah yes, well, okay, but yes, but well, it exists.

Quickly, to finish the show, two very quick subjects, the cosmic cycles, and then we'll talk, to finish, about the Moon. In Europe today, we operate on a linear time, that is, the years, the months that pass, the time that advances, the hours, etc. This is what we call linear time. Do you think it's a bad conception?

I think we could consider something else, but now it's over, it's dead. We left in a Gregorian calendar, it's over. But I think that the system of annual time calculation by 12 months, 30 days, 31 days, 28 days in February, sometimes 29, because there is a quarter of each year, so every 4 years you have one more day. We could very well approach a 13-month calendar over 28 days,

with one more day in February, for example, why not? What would have been the effect of being able to integrate the sign of the Serpent, today this sign does not exist. Why? That's all. I say, well, now it's like the story of changing time. You say what? going to change the time. Today we are in a cosmic time called the Kali Yuga.

That is to say, the Iron Age. There are four main ages in Hindu cosmology. You have the Satya Yuga, the Tetra Yuga. But we're talking about the Hindus. Yes, but it's also part of our world.

Because you say we're going to change dimensions, I just wanted to understand that.

Yes, energy dimensions. I was telling you about that because these four main ages, Satya, Tetra, Dwapara and Kali-Yuga, Yuga is the age, Kali-Yuga is the iron, Kali is the iron, the age of iron, we are in the age of iron. And we will finish this period which will last for another 70 years. We left the era of the fish. Each period lasts about 2000 years.

The era of the ship does not have the same energy vibration as the era of the fish. And we will enter into a particular vibration, which is no longer the one of before. And in this vibration, in this energy, we are going to enter a particular vibration which is no longer the one before. And in this vibration, in this energy, in this air of the vessel, we are going to ascend towards states of consciousness

that we do not yet know. Difficult to understand. What happens after death? After death, I think that the soul takes a part of what you were if you felt that you had fed your soul enough.

If you didn't feed your soul in one way or another you will wander in the limbo for a while, but you may not have the possibility to reincarnate. The main thing for us Adamic men is to charge our soul with the maximum of positive energy, of love, of peace, of goodness. For example, it is the main thing,

and it is the relationship that I maintain, particularly with my daughter and my wife. It is our main goal. It is to nourish our lives, our lives, our soul, from these energies. Because your soul will use them for the after.

What is it? What happens after? What is the after? It's like the mystery of life. The mystery of death, we don't know it. But the soul, it knows it. And your soul, it is in you, well, in you.

It is around you. well, around you, and it is fed by this divine particle that we have since the night of time.

We must not neglect this, it is very important. I really let you down, you really want us to be able to address all your subjects to you. I wanted to finish in the biggest conspiracy theories,

and as you are a black belt conspiracy theorist, you say you believe in everything. Seventh Dan.

Seventh Dan?

Yes.

It's poisoned food, you say. We eat poison today and then we'll end up on the moon.

I'm very careful about my food.

That is, you don't eat what?

What don't you eat? I only eat natural products. My chickens are raised by a farmer who feeds them with grain and milk. I get my milk from the farm. My beef is from a farmer who sells me a quarter when he gets a female. I buy the vegetables from a farmer who does at least reasonable farming, if not organic.

I filter my water. I'm very, very careful. There are poisons everywhere.

That's for sure. There are a lot of chemicals that are very bad for your health. It's undeniable. There are a lot of lobbies. We agree if you put a bad quality essence... We agree on one thing. You see, look.

If you invite me ten times, you'll say,

you were right about everything.

It's not a win.

It's not a win. But we agree, you put bad gas in an engine, you'll blow up your car. So you have to be careful about the body. The human body is perfect.

Look, two days ago, I had a sciatica, I couldn't even walk. I used the products I was telling you about earlier.

It's also called sleep, rest. Oh yes, there's more than that. Sleeping helps.

There's more than that.

What do you think of the moon? I think it's the biggest conspiracy theory. It's in the top 3. Humans have never walked on the moon. Is it true or not? I have no idea. What's your opinion and why?

There have never been men on the moon. At least... You're sure of that? In the way you explain it. The Apollo missions. There have never been men on the moon.

Maybe there have been, if it's possible. But it's military experiments. And you'll never know anything about it. Maybe there was, if it's possible. But it's military experiments. And you'll never know anything about it.

I think if they had done a military experiment, they would have filmed it to show it. You think it inhabited it? Oh yeah? Wait, wait, that's interesting. What do you think is on the Moon? Oh yeah, you really believe everything! That's crazy, that's crazy. Some people think we're not on the Moon, and no judgment, that... A lot of people think that.

No, no, that's not possible. Today, Elon Musk is making rockets, which are very efficient. Do you know how fast these rockets are going? No. 60,000 km per hour. To escape the Earth's gravity,

you need a minimum of 40,000 km per hour. Elon Musk's rockets reach 60,000 km per hour. So, after you escape the Earth's gravity, you need to be able to send your ship 400,000 km away. And there, you need to reach your ship 400,000 km away. And there you have to reach speeds of 80,000 km per hour.

Not me saying it, it's the papers of NASA. I'm not inventing anything. So 80,000 km per hour, we can reach today barely 60,000. And in 1969 they already had the technology to reach more than 80,000 km per hour. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Seriously, there is no Apollo mission that went to the moon.

None. Neither the 11th nor the 17th. I could even make a joke about it, but I don't know if we'll have time, it's a shame. I would have made a joke, it would have really made you laugh. Wait, I'm hot for a gag. If you propose a gag... Yeah, but it lasts at least three minutes. Oh yeah? What is it? It's a conversation between Leonid Brezhnev and Richard Nixon.

That existed or not? Oh no, it's a joke.

It's... a joke. But there's a real background. Hello? President Nixon. Leonid Brezhnev speaking. Hello, Mr. President.

How are you? Everything is fine? Good, good. Excellent. Tell me, President, if I may, I would like to congratulate you.

You are very, very strong. You managed to call from the Oval Office to the man on the moon, 400,000 km away? That's extraordinary! You had enough bodies to send the signal? Tell me, I hope it's not a lie. We also saw that you sent astronauts to the lunar surface to play golf.

That's extraordinary! You sent astronauts to the lunar surface to play golf?

That's extraordinary. But the ball, it stayed on the ground, it didn't fly away. I told you. Ah, you plumbed the ball. Of course, that's normal. And we also saw, President, that you sent big cars,

lunar jeeps. How did you manage to put big car in a small lunar module? Was there enough space? How do you say? It was foldable. Ah, the car was foldable.

Ah, but even foldable takes up space. How did you manage to put all this together? What are you saying, Mr. President? In the pour loger tout ça? Je t'avais dit, Président, dans le bagage dans le porte-bagage. Vous êtes très ingénieux. On n'aurait pas pensé à mettre la Jeep lunaire dans le porte-bagage du LEM. Mais dites-moi, Président, pourquoi vous avez pas été encore plus loin? Vous auriez dû envoyer un cow-boy sur la lune avec vache lunaire plombée. You should have sent a cowboy to the moon with a plumbed lunar cow.

What for? To go on a rodeo! If the Americans had done that, we would believe it today.

Patrice is talking about the Apollo missions, the ones that would have brought humans to the moon. According to him, we have never been to the moon, obviously never walked, but really no human being has ever gone to the moon.

In any case, it's one of the most popular conspiracy theories

on the Internet and elsewhere. Why is it so popular?

It's one of the most popular because it happens

in a super special moment in the United States,

it's in the 1970s.

The 1970s in the United States, it's marked by a lot of things,

it's marked by the Vietnam War, by the Watergate, so it's a moment where this kind of theory can spread more easily than at other times. What are the arguments of people who think we never walked on the moon? There are plenty. It's a subject that fascinated me, and I love space.

But you have plenty of things.

You have the fact that we don't necessarily see the stars in the photos,

the American flag floating, you know, in the videos, the fact that we didn't have the technology at the time to go there, etc. There are a lot of arguments like that. In fact, it's also that we never went back.

That's one of the biggest questions people ask themselves.

I looked on the Internet too, and it's true that we never went back.

Why? That's the question.

Why have we never gone back to the moon? Why do you have that as a question that will appear on the Internet. At the same time, you could say why they wanted to go there. It's always the same, it's that...

The United States, when they went to the Moon,

it was a time when it was to make fun of the USSR,

to show that we are stronger than everyone else.

There was an incredible national motive to go there.

And today, we don't really have a reason to go back.

So, Patrice, to finish, says that to send a ship to the Moon, the ship would have to go at 80,000 km per hour. He quotes NASA as the source. Can we check this info? I don't know where it comes from, because I was checked by NASA too, so we'll be able to have a NASA-based fight. But it's true, you see. And it's rather 40,000 km, it corresponds to the speed required to escape the gravity of the Earth. 40,000 km per hour. 40,000 km per hour, yes. And then he continued, to finish, he said that Elon Musk actually makes rockets that go at 60,000 km per hour

and so we were unable at the time, in 1969, the date of the first man on the moon, to make rockets quite powerful, to reach 80,000 km per hour. Does it seem logical as a reasoning? The problem is that the base is false, because it's 40,000 km, not 80,000. And then we already knew how to do it in the 60s, with the Saturn V rocket on the American side. And on the Soviet side, the very first inhabited object that reaches this speed is the Luna 1 probe,

on the USSR side. How do you speak so well in Russian?

I speak Russian. I was born in Russia. My wife is Russian. And I learned Russian to marry her. Because I loved her like a sick person. And I still love her.

Where did you meet her?

In Moscow.

In Moscow?

She had a dance school. She was giving a show in the street. The show was so beautiful that I asked to see the show's organizer. And I was introduced to the director of the dance troupe. She had a dance school in Moscow.

And so I talked to her about the beauty of the show.

What were you doing there?

Tourism. Tourism and a little, a bit of articles, published. I could count people there. I went there a bit for tourism and a bit for other things. You mean, you were a journalist? No, no, no, no. I was more or less invited on different radios to talk about these topics, for example. And then, suddenly, I met him like that, in the streets of Moscow.

We talked. Can you imagine? A Frenchman who is interested in his work. We are admired in Russia, us, the French. They love us. And there is a little idol, that's it.

Congratulations. Thank you. What can we wish you for the future? There was an Agenda 2030 to finish. What does Agenda 2030 mean?

Agenda 2030 is an agenda that has been put in place to set up the new world order.

It's true that it's a term that we hear a lot in the media.

Which will change and I think it will take effect in April 2030. I think we will already have answers to many things. Concerning the economy, cryptocurrencies, the way of making payments, it will evolve at a speed we have no idea. And not just that, on a social level it will be terrible.

What does the New World Order mean?

It's another way of managing the world, instead of being managed country by country, as we've seen, with a president in each country, a global government, led by those who are in the little pyramid, let's say, above the pyramid.

We haven't been able to talk about half of the subjects, but we have been able to address some.

Yes.

Thank you. It's important that we are someone who... Because we see a lot of what we call plotters, just for the title, but we see a lot of subjects on social networks, a lot of forums, a lot of people talking to each other,

and it's important to receive. on social media, a lot of forums, a lot of people talking to each other.

And it's important to receive. It's really the commitment we had near you, at home, when we launched this media two years ago. It's to say, we can receive politicians, artists, people who have original jobs, people who think differently, people who... And everyone has the same right to speak. We try to do the best we can, really, the best we can.

You're in the same seat as a former president, a comedian, whatever.

You're wondering why I like your show in particular?

You just explained it. The goal is to have everyone who has the right to speak, to express themselves, to explain what they believe. And then I think that every French person has the right to listen, to make themselves their own free will, to say, I don't believe in this, I believe in that, maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong,

he's crazy, etc. And everyone thinks differently, and that's the wealth of the world too. Thank you for coming to speak face to face. It's not easy to do what you did.

No.

Whether you believe it or not, it's not easy.

No, no. It took Charlotte, Maria Street to be convincing enough to tell me, and Louis too, to tell me... And your team. Yes, they told me, yes, what you have to say is interesting. Otherwise, you know, I would have said no.

Thank you very much.

I'm calling you from afar.

Sorry, I'd rather hold your hand. With pleasure, it's to avoid COVID. It was a pleasure to receive you and to listen to you speak. I hope you enjoyed it and that you were able to say everything. Not everything, because otherwise you would have had 15 hours of broadcast, as you were the show. Feel free to comment on the show,

to tell us what you thought about it in detail. If you agree or disagree on certain topics, feel free to express yourself. That's the principle of this show, we leave everything totally free. Anyway, there may be comments that will be deleted.

These are comments that are insulting to the bad guys. Obviously, we try to respect everyone. Feel free to like, comment the show, and put the little bell to be aware of the next releases. We also put you in podcast audio, so you can listen to us when you're on the road or elsewhere.

You're doing sports, you can put us with headphones, for example, on Spotify, on Deezer, on Apple Podcasts, on Amazon Podcasts. We are the first podcasts in France today. So thank you very much. You have about 150,000 to join us, and each month on YouTube, that's huge. And we're really happy to see so many of you coming in every day. Thanks to the whole team for preparing the show with me.

So thanks to the authors who wrote all this, who contacted you, who called you after your email. who called you after your email. And I send you a big hug, I'll see you later for a new video on Legend. Ciao everyone! Thanks for watching guys!