Perspektives With Bank | Lil Woody

I got YSL with an ATL native in the building, man.

Let's get straight to it, bro. How you feeling?

At this point, I thought I had to do something to somebody. I talked about the trial before it even happened, before anybody got locked up. One thing about when you out here doing stuff, you know 1250 come get you.

What did it feel like to be just labeled as a snitch?

It started when niggas started rapping. First of all, I never took medicine, but you just say you slid retired before we started so you might need to take some You won't switch seat, but you want to interview me? Kept my why why'd you keep me Roscoe close my nigga? Roscoe got something on you You should never answer that question you says that I don't recall you should say whoop-dee-doo don't sit there and say who did

This is a big Facts Network exclusive.

Hey man, this ain't no typical interview, man. I got YSL, Wootie, ATL, Native in the building, man. Let's get straight to it, bro. How you feeling?

Hey man, it's self-made, Wootie.

Self-made?

Yeah, man. God made me, but, you know, self-made. Overcame everything I've been through. I made myself. Oh, God made you, but the streets helped. Fuck the streets.

Now, how you feeling, brother?

I'm feeling blessed, man. I appreciate you for having me on here. Nah, I appreciate you pulling up. on somebody's goddamn, how much it is. Exactly, exactly. I had to pay for parking and wait in line. I'm trying to talk behind your back, but she come right around the corner as I'm going to talk to her. The lady out in the line, she's like,

you here for bank? I said, how you know? Everybody come here for you, ain't they?

Yeah, nah, most of the people, we do interviews right here. For sure. Now I'm saying like, where your mental at right now? And your spirit?

On wanting to engage your mental and then engage your spirit. My mental right now, it's just like, you know, one step at a time. Okay. My spirit with God, you know, trusting the process, letting God lead the way,

and just trusting the Father. So, you know, it's a blessing, man. I woke up this morning. Somebody didn't wake up today. It's real sh**. I'm taking the full advantage of that opportunity to have another chance at life. First question I want to ask is, like, how you keep from glitching out? Reminded myself, like, when I did glitch out,

where I ended up at, and looking over my shoulder, you feel what I'm saying? Worrying about police locking me up. All these lockers, as you see, I get pulled over every day. It feel good, you know, knowing they didn't gonna walk away without me.

The shit.

Oh, you got your license straight.

Everything.

Yeah.

This your first time having a license?

First time.

How'd that make you feel? Like I got over like 10 million in my bank account. That's how crazy it is. What you think the number one thing is that people see, like the people that love you,

that see when they see you now?

Say that one more time. Like what you think the number one thing, or what people tell you that's around you, like you know, like your grandma, your aunties, and your friends that really, really love you, what it is that they most proud of you,

most proud of you are? My growth, the way I'm handling things and how I'm going about it. And you know, the love is unbelievable. It's crazy. Like, it's crazy, bro. I ain't gonna lie.

At this point, I thought I had to do something to somebody and then everybody be like, I told y'all, you feel what I'm saying? But it's just, it's so much love that, you know, They can't even get close to me. Real sh**. What made you feel like you had to do something to somebody? Just thinking like, what? Because I was a young n***a one day,

I mean at one point, and I saw somebody that had a certain status and I wanted to build my name up, so I was thinking about doing something to that person to get my name up there. So instantly, I think back in my shoes,

you feel what I'm saying? So like, I know somebody think they gonna get his name out of me, it ain't gonna be that sweet. Yeah, no, I dig what you saying. You saying by being on the internet or being just period, you felt like, damn, I could be the target

that I once thought was like, I once looked at a nigga like me as a target basically. Yeah so it's like street niggas mindset right they jealous and envious my nigga so it's like when people see like this NLE Choppa and Youngboy. Everybody see Youngboy ain't mess with nobody. The boy doing his thing. Standing his own lane. And this nigga, yeah I love him. I can feel him every time he drop a song. But NLE Choppa instead of him doing his own thing, he said, you know what, I'm gonna attack this man, I'm gonna mess with him. That's how niggas, that's how poor niggas in the street think. Instead of just letting me continue to move my life,

because I ain't messing with nobody. I ain't out here trying to portray a street image or nothing like that. I'm just, and it's like, knowing that, it's alwaysus and jealous of me. So how you get away from, you know, like, cause cause me, I'm doing the same. Just transition, trying to be a different person too. Well, I am different, but the thing about it is you can't change the mind of muggles who already know you for who they know you as.

So how do you, how do you keep from fucking one of them up? Avoid being around them. So I control who around me in the environment I'm around.

Yeah.

So like right here, I'm right here with you. Every person that with me work a job.

Yeah.

You feel what I'm saying? An honest job. Yeah. And they having an honest living. This as long as I ever been free. I put myself around those type of people.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's in you though. Right. So that's what tell me right then and there, who the, you ain't pretending. This nigga pretending. Come on, you put that belt to there,

get what you gonna do. Probably get him. I don't care. If I would have did something here, he gonna call the police on me. Nigga try to justify shit. And overall, you know what I mean, you ain't really like that. I ain't trying to talk down on nobody

because I'm not like that. I've been pretending and living a fake life, trying to be crazy and trying to be whatever people want me to be. And I just realized, man, this shit bring me happiness.

What it feel like to be just labeled as a snitch? How that feel inside, the truth? You never spoke on that. Like, how that feel inside, the truth? You never spoke on that, like how that feel?

That's on it. If a person feel like I'm a snitch and they wanna label me a snitch, I look at them and I look at, you know, who they are. Who is you to try to label me?

Yeah.

What you got going on to try to, you feel what I'm saying? Nigga, your life ain't where it need to be for you to be focusing on me. Stand and child play, little boy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, let me ask you something. Cause I was just thinking this morning when I knew you was coming, I was just trying to think of some questions. I wrote some shit down, but I ain't fuck that. I was just going to ask you some regular shit.

Let me ask you, all y'all young niggas feel like y'all could finesse them folk, like talk y'all way out of some shit. Do you feel like niggas just don't want to see that you really did finesse?

So let's break this down. You know what, I ain't going to kick him because I love him too much. You feel what I'm saying? I will use real scenarios to point out my, make my point, but I can just say say did my nigga.

I got sons. I talked about this way back in 2019 before anybody ever got locked up. Nobody knew what I knew.

You feel me?

You talking about what?

About this whole situation. I talked about the trial before even happened, before anybody got locked up. One thing about when you out here doing stuff, you know 12 feet will come get you. These niggas in the street ain't thinking like I am. These niggas ain't cut from that cloth I came from. Everybody thinking that you gonna do stuff to get caught. You feel me? So you gotta go back to

the beginning of the problem. Where did it start? It started when niggas started rapping. You feel me? They say you started, he ain't as crazy as he seem. So clearly, what you gonna go out for? What you gonna go out for? If you look at Thug and you look at me, like real talk, Thug was as successful as he was because his talent.

But now that he been exposed, his truth have been exposed, look at my boy. That shit hurt me looking at him. What you mean? His smile ain't the same, his attitude ain't the same. Every time you see him on footage, he look like he in a dark place.

Look at it, go look at them videos of him. Damn. You feel what I'm saying? Now look at me, my nigga. Do it look like I'm pretending? Do it look like I'm living in a dark place? Ooh. You wanna switch seats, bro?

You wanna interview me?

No, you, listen, my respect for you is way up here,

my nigga.

Yeah, appreciate that.

Because I sat there not watching. You feel me? So I watch you. You know, a lot of people don't understand that about me. Like, I been in survival mode since my mama died.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I'm gonna do what I gotta do to survive. I didn't commit crimes, and I'm not telling people to go commit crimes. I didn't commit crime because I wanted to. I committed a crime because I didn't know better. And I tried to make people accept me. So I thought this is the way that I can make people accept me.

But when I started doing times and people started turning their back on me and started leaving me in there and started, you know, while I'm sitting in jail, people shooing up my family houses. I'm in jail, these niggas who want to call them my friends ain't protecting my family. So when niggas talk about snitching and talk about all that, niggas,

I'm in McCannville, nigga, pull up and get your issue. That's how serious I am about it. But you just, my nigga. People gotta understand the seriousness and how far unwilling they go about my people.

Yeah.

This is a situation I got nothing to do with, but I'm carrying the blame. When it first happened, you heard about it. Who name was being called?

Yeah.

Who had to go through all this violence and war? Every time niggas shot at me and I shot back, the police locked me up. And them niggas continue to shoot up my family house. When you having war, nigga, let me tell you something. When they shot me while I had my baby and my girl with me at the time, clothes off.

Nigga, anybody can do that. Because at the end of the day, while I'm trying to defend myself He's locking me up, my nigga. So you feel like, basically, what I just gathered, you feel like you went out there front line on some shit that you ain't had to be front line for and niggas left you for dead.

That's how you feel?

Uh, let me tell you, I ain't never need a nigga to defend me but right is right, my nigga. If y'all niggas what to do. Y'all should already been on it. But due to the facts, nigga I don't give a fuck. Because I sit and I be quiet. I hold this in, this shit hurt. Get it up.

Nigga, I sit and be quiet and let the world criticize me and say what they want to say about me. But the whole time I'm defending niggas I call friend. Now, nigga, y'all bad enough to do this, you can stand on it. But instead, who got to stand on it? Me. When these niggas was showing up at my family house, guess what, who the chill out, lay low?

They got a dog change on my neck, so I can't go back out there. But guess what, I broke them mother fuck off, and I went back out there, and I stood up for this man. But when I see them niggas, we ain't gonna stop. You feel what I'm saying? Anybody can get it. And I'm standing on it.

Yeah. So where is it right now though? Uh, well, where that? I'm saying just the energy of all that shit. This is my last time getting it off my chest. And the best place to get it off my chest is right here with you.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate you. I see how you get each and everybody on here and people gotta understand. And everybody wanna know what's going on. You feel what I'm saying? And I sit here and watch people sit right here

knowing how I feel about this situation and get on here and lie. Don't lie, my nigga, because you don't want me to put the truth out there. I'm going to say that before we even get too deep in it. I don't take you as a liar. That's really what I'm saying now. Like even watching you,

like you know how certain niggas you could tell if they blinking or just bother. I done seen all type of niggas. I'm just being real. The other main that though. He always moving like that though. Keep it real now.

He always moving like that. Come on, Bank. What he lying about? The medicine, first of all. I never took medicine.

But you just said you slept retarded before we started, so you might need to take some.

Yeah, because I'm retarded, I mean, I got to too though. Exactly, do you take medicine? Nah. Exactly, I'm high of life, real talk. Ask that nigga bro, when I just be mad, I wake up out my sleep and go outside, play on the playground. You feel what I'm saying?

It's just when I love for people to be so real bro, in this next level. But when people trying to be, show their sane love back, my nigga they ain't doing it. And then once you try to close them doors and let the past be the past, and you got niggas come on this thing,

you know, everybody say, I can't take what he says, he take medicine. No, take me serious, I'm human. I have the same feelings y'all have.

But there ain't nothing wrong with a nigga taking medicine though.

Yes it is. What? That's why gotta take medicine. But when you taking the medicine you okay like Gucci okay now. He's still fucked up. Cuz if you don't take that medicine what you gonna go do? Yeah but a lot of us is undiagnosed though a lot of us got some shit that we probably I probably if any of us in the room went down there and sat with them folk and told them folk what the fuck we be

thinking about we'll all be taking medicine. Well, you gotta be crazy living in today's society. That's what I'm trying to tell you. So it really ain't fucked up to be taking, niggas need to be taking some. This is my medicine right here, sitting down having a conversation. Me too, me too.

I ain't even lying, bro. Me sitting down having a conversation with niggas and just smoking a little blunt or two. I ain't even pills, I ain't nothing. That's them niggas. Natural. You know what I mean? Like I say, bro, if I'm with you, I'm with you every step of the way. See, people not understand the way niggas went wrong get. What causes all of this. You feel what I'm saying?

And like I said, I love the, even to this day, I never hurt him. I want to see him hurt. You know what I mean? That's real. I just don't like when niggas get on here and lie and pretend. You feel what I'm saying? Let that shit be, bro. Let's just close that chapter already.

He just said it. All he said was,

Goddamn, we would've started everything. And I did it. But you putting gas on the fire. Nah. I'm lying, you clean gas on the fire. Once they put their hands on me, my nigga.

I'll bet so.

Yeah, I had a bit and I, somebody gotta pay. But that didn't lead into the situation that people trying to say. Why, if bank hit me, I'm not going after her. I'm coming after bank.

Yeah.

You feel me? Yeah. So at the end of the day, my nigga, you know the truth. You should never answer that question. You should've said, I don't recall. You should've said, whoop-de-do. Don't sit there and say, whoo-de.

Because you gotta understand, people believe in it. People believe in it. But I'm saying, it was easy to believe, though. Hold up, let me just ask you this. Just looking back how wild y'all niggas was online and in clubs and shit. Would you believe that about you? That Woody probably did start. Cause how did, they said something about nut shit got stolen

and some kind of way you gave it back or whatever, so. Bank, you come from the street, why steal something to give back? That don't make sense though, right my nigga? Never have. Come on man, you know that. Yeah, yeah. man, you know that. You got a whole lot of sense. Can't nobody come up here and play on you, my nigga.

You saying, so what happened with that situation with the nut chain?

Somebody did have his chains, they broke in his car, you feel me? And when I saw them, I'm like, wait. So I hit Baby J, like, hey, man, hitting it up, tell him I got his stuff. She knew it. So she hit him up, told him, he pulled up in the neighborhood, me and him chopped up, couple people with him, gave me a chain, we talked, you know what I'm saying, there wasn't no gangsta shit involved at all, you know what I'm saying. Anytime I feel like I'm gonna, cause Nut had a status in the street, if I feel like he a threat to me, I ain't even let you leave my

neighborhood, period. But that wasn't never the case. The respect was mutual. So you know I gave him that back and he's like, damn, who you got it from? You know, come on, we ain't doing all that bitch, bro. So he like, shit, you know what, I respect that my nigga. And that was it. That shit was dead. But Thug was saying like his niggas didn't want to let that go after that though. So why they ain't do nothing to me right then and there. He had his niggas with him. But you know how shit go, after them fuck, that fuck with Nutt,

tell my man shit, this nigga done tried you. You know what I'm saying? I'm just keeping it real, like you just said earlier,

niggas in the street just envious, so you never know.

When did you hear about this story of me having Nutt juror? On the podcast. So if that was the word in the street, why is he just not coming out? Nobody didn't know nothing about these jurors. Nobody didn't know nothing about what happened to the trial. You just said it yourself. You never heard nothing about that till we in the trial, right? So why did the niggas swing on you at Cruz?

Um, so...

Hmm.

Some shit happened at the Gambler House.

Okay.

And somebody told me, hey man, you know, play that card right here. I said, damn you smart, I play that card. But as I'm playing the card that you tell me to play, the hand that you tell me to play, you renege on me. So I ran into somebody, a certain person that been stabbed up, bitch, pretend to be gangsta and he laying up in that high pillar bed. I ran into him and I took your advice because you told me, play the hand.

Chop it up with a nigga, whatever, whatever. And then motherfuckers say, man, fuck that. You don't know who got who down bad. You just put me in the crossfire. Tell a nigga, I tell a nigga straight up, hey, look, whatever the problem is, ain't got nothing to do with me, it's between y'all. So next, but me and you hankin'. So when these niggas see me, they'll hanker deep.

And I ain't feel like nobody fuck with you when you with me. Nigga, hey, what's up with y'all? Shit, what's up? Oh, they wanna get violent. Oh, y'all ain't go through with the, we gonna keep jumping back and forth

because this shit is coming to my head. I ain't got a rope down, this ain't no interview, let's go.

Man, we riding out.

Hey look, why you ain't,

like them folk gave you immunity, right? Yeah. So that mean you can't be charged for nothing, like they say you can't be charged for nothing. Force immunity, that's different. What's that? That means that we giving you immunity. We don't care that you don't want it. I didn't want immunity. I didn't want my family to hear the shit

that I allegedly did in the streets. Okay. So I threatened the prosecutors, not in a bad way, in the defense. Hey, y'all leave me out of this trial. Because what they gonna do is get up here and say,

oh, who did this, this, this, this, this. My nephew is trying to be indiscreet. I don't want them to hear about this shit, bro. I ain't a fan of this violence. And when they start saying, oh, he did all this stuff right here, the internet, they like stupid shit, my nigga. I don't want to be praised for being stupid

or hurting people, you feel me? When did your shift come? Like, when did your mind shift come? My mind shift, when I was in state prison, right before I was just released, before the trial. I had 30 days to go home. Some gang members came to me,

be like, hey bro, be careful. The other gang, they trying to get you. He got a knife. They gave me a knife, me hard head, like I can defend myself. I got 30 days to go home.

They go get the other dudes, and I say, hey, y'all get this nigga. And the old head come to me and say, hey, they playing you, bro. They trying to crash you out, and they trying to crash him out.

So the nigga who they try to get to stab me, he had a snitch on his jacket. to stab me so they could protect him. He got 10 years doing prison. So when the old head explain to him, I'm like, cool, instead of me going to the hole or just falling back, I'm hard-headed with a point and pull. I go in the yard, what's up? I got my knife on me.

They gave me a short knife, gave him a long one. And when I seen him, I'm had help. He had another nigga. So I had another nigga come. He whip out, I ain't show mine. I wanna act like I ain't had no, but I had a cuff in my hand. And when he pulled out, he like,

yo, what's up, what's up? So I act like I'm scoring up with him. And when he went back, I went straight in at his face. And he stood back and came down and stabbed me in the arm right here and it went through. When he stabbed me, that's when the reality hit me up. You stupid ass nigga, you got a lot to lose. I grabbed my arm, wrapped myself up, ran back inside the park. Because I realized that he wasn't trying to do nothing. So when I missed him, he stabbed me, I ran back inside

the police scene. I'm like, please don't say nothing because I'm gonna lose my parole date. Now I got to stand here with these niggas that ain't got nothing to lose. She looked at me, she's like, oh, I went there, wrapped myself up, patched myself up, and still didn't go to the hole. Old head begged me, like, please, man, he from Augusta, he's like, please go to the hole, man. Like, bro, you somebody, bro, these niggas ain't about being scared, it's about being smart. You somebody, I don't let this nigga make a name off you. Yeah. Damn, so I was in a conversation, I ain't gonna lie, it took a long time.

I'm like, okay, cool. I went ahead, packed my stuff up, went to the hole. Everybody, why you going to the hole for? Like, because I'm going home. Instead of dying or killing in like, man, you know, you ain't doing that, you just bored. So the more I started just talking to God, I started to feel better.

Getting clarity too. Yeah. I'm talking about my body. And then there's no five days that went by. I got three weeks to go home. And I just found myself talking to God more and more, you feel what I'm saying, then the Rico came. I'm like, oh wow, you feel what I'm saying? And that's when I got on my knees and prayed. Because one thing about me, I got a lot of stuff documented. I got it documented talking about this trial before it even happened.

See what I was going, man, but it's crazy, bro. My life is so crazy, nigga. Nah, give it to me, give it to me. I can't put that on the internet, you crazy, nigga.

I love you fought to be in the position that you...

Yeah.

Exactly.

Well, I'll ask you out of camera, because you love it, but hey, because I'm still got a train of thought of... So OG were telling you that So they telling him, they gonna say he's straight if he handling you. Like, we gonna take care of you, bro. You good. You got down to just handling Woody and then all that shit over with. But they lying to him too, though.

Oh, fuck him too.

Yeah. They gonna crash both of us out on each other.

Yeah.

So if I stab him, I'm going to a higher prison where they can get me at. Because I'm at a... I was in state prison. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So when I get there, I was ripped. Where's the best place to start gangbanging at? Where's the best place to start gangbanging? In prison. So when I walked through the door, niggas said, you blood? I said, no, I ain't nothing.

You feel me? I could have easily said, yeah, where they pretending. I see these niggas so I ain't finna hide behind nothing. Nah, I ain't Blood. Because you know when I became a gang member I thought it had some type of structure. I thought it had unity. When certain stuff started happening, people started, I started like when 2015 Blood started switching up. You feel what I'm saying? When I started seeing niggas switching up, I'm like, oh I'm in the wrong field.

What you mean switching up?

So like, let's say I was a part of this set. Niggas in this set like, dang, we can't rock with you because you did that to, you know what I mean? This ain't your whip. I said, but y'all ain't walking with me because y'all a pussy. with me though. I ain't, cause you said you seen me in the club with Big Boo and them. So? But when I was throwing up signs,

what was I throwing up? I stand on what I stand on. You throwing up they shit? I stood up what I thought I was a part of. Okay, and Boo was something different? Right.

Oh, okay. So niggas like, man, oh damn, bro. I don't want no parts of it. But it ain't got nothing to do with it. I ain't finna tell it to nobody. Think what y'all wanna think. Feel how y'all wanna feel.

So what's the consequences of saying like,

I ain't nothing when you was in the game? There wasn't no consequences. The best place I could've got out of it was in prison. Where all the wolves at, right? So I dropped my flag when I was down there. He was like, shit, you ain't blood. Oh, well, they saying you did this to a blood. So bro, we gotta eat you, but we ain't gonna eat you, bro.

Cause you know what I mean? A lot of East Coast homies, they like, yo man, hey man, y'all get a hell of a shot of that. They like, but you ain't blood. And they say you did this, so get on a dude, this shit gonna follow me everywhere I go. So when I seen nigga now that clean, he wide as hell, give me a knife. He ain't give me a knife, fuck you.

So at the end of the day, I let, what I do, I stayed in there and let him beat me up. They ain't really, they snort me. Nigga came out of nowhere, treat me like a bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I took a head whip, and then they called me out for medical. I went up there, he in my eye, came right back in there. When I came back, he was like,

damn, you got to respect Shotta. Shotta, normally, you niggas go tell. And I came in there, and went to sleep with them niggas. And then there was people on the outside, back and then you know I changed units you know I mean due to the fact because a lot of people get a sample but it's a big fish today no you got family bro they stand alone bro I already know got your name in car that yeah and got your background let me ask you some you said some I'm try and thought you saying, who kept it solid on the YCL case?

A lot of people did.

Who?

Yeah, Quade. And Yoping. Yeah, Quade, both of the Quades.

Yeah.

Shannon Yat.

Thug said Yat could rap though.

Then they made Thug a rat. Because Yat lied in his interview. Yat said, I did it, right? But I was in charge. Yat was in charge. So what did they tell you?

There's too much finessing going on.

I'm giving you the facts.

The facts is, if Yat went in the interrogation and talked to the police and proven facts that he lied and you call him a rat but you said people he's selling you know Wayne, taking Wayne them drugs and people commit crimes every day. If Yack a rat for lying in the interrogation, what did it make you? Oh so you saying

basically, you ain't take it like he told on you cause you know you ain't did nothing.

Right.

But snitching is when you telling the truth on somebody, my nigga.

Right?

You told the truth about anything?

Shit, we all free. Hell yeah, I told the truth about everything I told you.

Hell yeah.

We free, my nigga. You thought you got the truth on the stand, huh? I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man.

I'm a man.

I'm a man.

I'm a man.

I'm, man. It seemed like the wind was just pushing me. And I was telling them, like, I can't eat. I can't feel nothing. Like, they didn't care.

Why you thought you was in that state of mind, though?

Because I'm just like, bro, I don't care about this defense. I don't care about the state. I just care about, this defense. I don't care about the state. I just care about United Men. I've been through enough, my nigga. And these people intentionally do it, like the state, they linked out these interrogation footage because I was uncooperative the whole time.

Why everybody think I'm cooperating? I'm not. That's why I keep going to prison, or keep going to jail.

Oh, you talking about even with the interrogation videos and all that shit, you saying you still didn't really get them folks shit. That's why you were going to jail, basically.

So what a lot of people miss, because they ain't got nobody to break it down to them, each time they interrogated me, I told them a different story. Every time they questioned me. So I didn't even understand

why the police were trying to use that. It ain't like I told you the same story question me you've been I don't told bank shot him I mean bank he cool did it turn around say huh who did it turn around say Emmett so he's like y'all ain't convinced by this story I think of anybody and fuck it how could I convince y'all so you said basically all, let's break it down. Let's break down telling, snitching, writing, informing.

Let's break down all of them. Let's start with snitching. Snitching is, the whole overall is, you snitch, let's just put it out there. You'll snitch when you go in an interrogation room on top. That's the best way to kill it.

That's when you'll in an interrogation room on top. That's the best way to kill it. That's when you a snitch. The moment you walk in that interrogation room

and sign the-

And don't ask for your lawyer. Yeah, the moment you talk without your lawyer, you a snitch. I don't give a fuck what you tell him. That's the only way you stop it. That's the only way you stop it. But, but, but, but, but a young nigga told me this the other day, right? I was like, man, cause I, the niggas listened

to the third interview when I said, why y'all young niggas feel like y'all could finesse

the police?

Do you feel like today, do you feel like I snitched? Just be honest with you. Just be real honest. Do you feel like I snitched? Now you see how everything played out. You see everything. I feel like, I feel like you finished.

But that is telling. You went in that interrogation room and talked to them folks and said anything besides where my lawyer at, you're telling.

So, okay.

That's just how I feel about it.

But overall, forget how you feel about it. Let's speak on the facts of what happened.

But overall, I feel like you did what was right in there. That's just how I feel. And I told everybody that. I feel like whatever, I feel like you saved a boy's life. I do feel like that. So I can't say, when it was your time to really tell, you didn't tell. But in the interrogation room, you were talking too much.

So let me ask you this question. Was you in any of them cars that were used to commit any of them crimes? No, sir. So how you know if I was telling?

No, I'm just saying what I saw. I'm just keeping it real. Like, what I saw, a nigga in interrogation room talking to them folk, to me, I cut it off, bro, because I don't give a fuck what you about to say. You talking too much. That's just how I look at it, Woody. Y'all niggas had told me like, Oh, so you got to think, when y'all niggas all that cold shit, them niggas wasn't trying to finesse, them niggas going to do 50 and 100 years. These niggas actually getting outlined.

First of all-

So it's a different, I don't get it, I don't understand. Niggas was telling back then. For sure they was. lot of these niggas trying to stay up under the radar because they had to get exposed. I know a lot of niggas not mean they don't sit down and talk because niggas will say that. You feel what I'm saying? So my whole thing is now that you got the internet guess what nigga saying? Shit I'm gonna stay out of the way cause I ain't trying to be exposed. Bro let me tell you something bro we human we human bank ain't nobody ever walk this earth did what I did and ain't nobody never gonna do it I owe nobody

nothing ain't nobody put no gun to my head no nothing let me tell you something my nigga when I was out here thuggin and ridin with you and having your back I wasn't out here telling people bragging about it I didn't put that in songs I didn't do any of that. And let me tell you this, bro. Whatever I went through and whatever I did, I didn't do it to get caught or to go spend the rest of my life in jail. That's what people fail to realize. Y'all keep to my saving, them niggas. Let's

start with myself. I ain't spending the rest of my life in jail. That's why I take advantage of every opportunity and every day moving forward. I commend you for that though. Everything you're doing, you doing the shit with the kids. Like I can tell that shit genuine. Like I said, bro, somebody sent me a picture of you and said you got shot, bro. I instantly prayed for you, dog. Thank you.

No, that's on God. But you end up falling off a bike. I was like, I pray for you in the city because I was like, if they done shot, be fucked up. Niggas asking me to go to jail, whatever. Cause it was- They wasn't going to jail, cause if I live. No, I'm just saying, but you, you was out.

You, did you see that video?

Yeah, I seen.

It looked like, boy, it was over with. So I was just like, man, please God, don't let nobody be done. Killed this boy, shot this boy, he fell off a bike. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, damn, that's good. You get what I'm saying? Cause I don't want to see nobody get shot because this shit going to turn the city upside down. That's just what it is.

Right?

That's just what it is. Nigga, somebody going to jail. It going to all crank back up. I feel like me personally, and I want to is Fannie Willis. I just want to interview her, but I feel like the state, I ain't gonna say her, but the state wanna see something because Niggas is out. You get what I'm saying?

Put all these niggas back out there, let's see what happens. That's just how I feel. I'm gonna say this. I watch Fannie, you feel what I'm saying? That's a strong black woman.

For sure. A lot of people want to take away from her because of how she handled the situation. She did her job. She did her job. And if we didn't get her job to do, she wouldn't have to rip. Fact. So, and I-

Nigga wouldn't be mad if it was a white man,

or white lady.

At all. Nigga wouldn't even be mad.

Like, nigga wouldn't even Like, what the fuck? But see, a lot of people don't know that. So a lot of people feel like, okay, cause they go break the law. They ain't got to worry about police. No, you gotta go to jail. You gotta pay for that. So that's my view of life now.

That's why I make my next decision based off like, okay, cool. If I'm broke, I'm not gonna have some grass and chop some trees down, rake up some leaves. I ain't gotta worry about the law. So that's why I try to talk to these kids. The police, they still terrorize me. They see me out there with the kids,

they go jumping out on the kids, searching them, try to find something on them to say that I'm influencing, that I'm giving them that. No, I'm not. I'm putting belts. People's kids, they ain't mine either. And they family, like their parents are telling me do it.

How you think you, how you think you, how you think you continue to have the respect from the kids to even listen to you

without all this shit going on on the internet? Because they relate. Nobody, not one person say I'm a snitch to my face. I just left Mayheigh High School last Friday and I had the trouble youth in them and there was a couple also they used to work in Rice Creek, don't work

there no more, they who invited me. They were like, man I'm gonna invite somebody I used to deal with in the jail and I got a friend kids and I found one they had a mindset like me and I locked in on him and I talked to him and he thought he had it so figured out. And what I did, I tapped into his emotion. And I said, let go, I said, I let it hit. Cause I told him I'd beat him up. Yeah, I said, I win. Cause I got you mad and you're gonna make the wrong choice.

I said, your first mistake is you walk past me and let me stand behind you. You ain't got enough, what you call it? You ain't battle-tested my nigga. Cause the moment you let me get behind you, you lost. Choke your ass out, whatever I want to do to you. Ain't no rules in the streets. You in my real shit.

The moment you believe the rules in the streets, you lose.

Facts.

Every time I turn around, somebody being exposed for going in an interrogation room and talking to the law. That's a part of the street life my nigga. That's part of the game. I'm not promoting, I'm not condoning. I tell everybody, don't put yourself in a situation where they could tell on you, you had to tell on somebody. And the best way you do that is by limit who you associate yourself with.

Oh look, let me break that down.

You said, some niggas ain't going in the time unfolder. Yes they are. Shit. Let me tell you something my nigga. I'm gonna tell you how you know. I went to jail because the police said in the video it looked like it's a gun on my hip. Everybody's selling their product on the internet.

You said everybody's selling what? Their product. Their product on the internet.

Yeah.

I went to the fed because a son said if somebody tried them I'm gonna pull up at pop at a night so if the feds gonna got me for that lyric you think they're not watching all these niggas on the internet selling all this stuff and flashing all this stuff you think they not catching these niggas pulling them over why ain't about looking let him go why you think he niggas surviving on streets so long bro so if nigga wanna say I'm working for the law why the hell they keep putting me in jail I can't think these niggas surviving on the streets so long, bro. So if a nigga wanna say, I'm working for the law, why the hell they keep putting me in jail?

I can't give them information if I'm in jail. It's the niggas that ain't going to jail that's giving them the information, keeping them updated on what's going on in the street. But would you look at it, if it was another nigga, if a nigga interrogation, would you look at it like he did some bullshit? To be honest with you, it ain't my situation for me to be putting my time into it. Nah, I agree with that.

So that's why I go at it, because I'm never going to associate with you. Only why I'm talking about it, because I'm talking to you. You know what I'm saying? If I'm talking to a nigga, that's what I'm talking about. Other than that, that ain't my business. no matter if you true or not. That's the truth. The truth is, Bank, everybody associate with a snitch. If they ain't snitch, they ain't friends with me. So when I be looking at these niggas like,

you name a rapper, I name somebody who stand with them every day, they told. Let's be real. So they try to make it seem like, okay, because you told or you made it, you did what you did. That nigga is crazy. Nah, I'm just gonna speak facts, man.

Real talk.

You say if you lay with Ralph, you can lay,

he got somebody hanging around. Every day, post pictures with him out. So they wanna select and choose, but they stay well controlling.

Why you think they select and choose?

Cause these niggas really bitches. Know what I mean? I hope they feel offended when they hear that. And I say that because it's like, y'all got all this influence, use it for a better purpose. I just told a couple of them niggas that on the phone. Yeah, man. On my lifeline, bro, niggas gotta got them feet.

Niggas gotta really, because the streets is over with. The streets that we know, that I know, and I come from the streets from the early 90s. The streets been over with. Not really. Yes they have, baby. Not really, because they was still money to get. It ain't even no money to get now.

But they ain't gonna want the money, they want clout. Everybody doing shit for clout. You see, how long we for the day to day interview? Months.

Yeah.

You ain't wanna pay and they ain't wanna sit for free. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's like. I ain't never paid a nigga for an interview though. And guess what, my nigga keep going.

Yeah, I'm just keep doing it.

I ain't hating on you, but see what happened is.

But we can get some money together, I would.

For sure, but see, I had learned a bigger message. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm, you know what I'ma do? I'ma go ahead and talk with Bank because get what, I got real respect for Bank. I just watched your interview.

No, I got respect for you too, bro. Like I said, bro, in the beginning, looking at that shit, that interrogation shit, I did not respect them. I'm just being with them kids. Well, pause there. I see you helping the kids. I see you got down on a family, man.

I see, and I see no lies in you. I'm just being real. I see no lies when I see you, bro. So for me to sit across from you, and I told you that on the phone.

Cause you like, man, y'all don't fuck with me, man. that you was nothing. Not even one time did I say it out my mouth, anything negative towards anybody. Now, it don't be that. It be more of a city shit. So it's like this, bro. I'm not a nigga that's just around to be around. Yeah.

I'm playing my part. You feel me? Yeah. And while I'm playing my part, you know, I got your back. I walk that life, my nigga, because I'm thinking you my friend.

I'm thinking that, you know what I mean, this, you know. I show you my love for you. Niggas say I put niggas in jail. No, you should never did what you did. If niggas ain't go out there and commit no crimes and, you know, break the law, we ain't gonna have to deal with it. So what were they trying to say that you what were they trying to use from an interrogation room like they were trying to say you were the star witness. What were they trying to use that you said to convict the case? I don't

talk to them so much I don't even know shit. They probably asked me how long I've been involved. That they were trying to use so it's just like whatever they've trying to use it was like they knew I was uncooperative before anybody did.

Who, you saying the state?

The state. Yeah. Every time they came to me, they would have, no, fuck you, go to jail. They thought they gonna be able to finesse the jurors with what you had already passed in.

No, so what they thought they were gonna do is, they thought that, you know, I care about street credibility. Okay, we're gonna put this interrogation out there. Then you know, everybody gonna turn against him and then he gonna testify against us. We really want us. So when they did what they did,

it's just like, it just made me more of who I am. Y'all wanna play chess with me? Come, let's play then. I know how to play. So that's what they did. I stayed away from everybody. Nobody didn't know where I stood at. I called Brian Steele before I had to go testify.

I said, let me tell you something. Don't call me to that trial. I will hurt y'all. I told the state, don't call me to that trial. I will hurt y'all case. I just want to be left alone.

I've been through enough. The evidence shows y'all, you know what I mean, I didn't do it. They leave me out of it. I done been through enough. I had to fight, fight, fight, fight, defend every fucking day. And I had to go sit in jail for years behind all of this. Man, I'd be dealing with this shit for 10 years, my nigga.

Y'all don't think I had enough? Leave me alone. So how that shit weigh on your mental like day to day like right now? You know man I try to put it behind, that's why I'm here because it's like nigga think a thug gonna learn something and be more mature. He got on an interview and like you know it started because of Woody. So now it's like you know people watch him like damn man Woody started this. No it didn't. It started because of

thug. Let's just be honest my niggas, you had jealousy on your heart. Don't make me keep going with it. He had jealousy on his heart. And you know I mean, what jealousy make people do? Envy his shit right? Yeah shit get deep my nigga. And I've been holding this shit in for 10 years. Despite how anybody may feel about me or anybody, I don't care about people opinion about me my nigga. I'm living on walking this shit Motherfuckers, it's sitting back laughing. Ha ha ha. I'm living this shit. I'm going through these these emotions these timers

I think I'm sitting in jail nigga leaving my family out there praying every night on my knees They don't about to kill none of my family members and when I get snatched up by the feds nigga guess what happened nigga I lose somebody that meant the world to me. Who that?

Kenny Boo.

Oh yeah.

I don't give a fuck what the situation is, my nigga. It would never happen, I was on the street.

You feel me?

So I don't care about how nobody feel about me, my nigga. Y'all ain't helping me. Y'all ain't never put no food on my plate. opportunity to get rich and nobody never did that to me bro my whole entire life never had nobody take me under they wing and help me be great help me be better help me find my purpose I just had to get in my life and be bad influence ain't go over here and do this go over here man who I got wood with me leading

me steady into a hole a deeper hole but now look at me God deliver me Gus I got

you what was your mental like like behind the wall like when you just a deeper hole. But now look at me, God delivered me. God said, I got you.

What was your mental light behind the wall? Like when you just explained like praying, like how did you navigate through that day to day?

It took time. It took patience. And I had to build a relationship with God. Trust. When the feds got me, despite how anybody feel or help, I was like, a relationship with God. Trust, when the feds got me, despite how anybody feel or have it,

I was like, these people are real. Nigga, the feds got me. That shit different. Yeah, it's real. Nigga, we see that shit on TV. We ain't believing in no feds.

But look, my nigga, they got me for real. Nigga, I go that feds get millionaires. Nigga, I ain't even got a fucking bank account. But it got me. All because of a song.

So what you were charged with when you went to the feds?

Possession of a firearm, 922 G1. You saying that put them on you? Them lyrics put them on you? Yeah, so what happened was, in 2015, we all know what took place. After that took place, you know, I went down for questioning, they let me go. They didn't have a clue what happened. I ain't know, but I was a target because what happened?

They keep shooting up my people's houses. The police was so dirty that they telling my family, oh, this is because of Woody. Your house getting shot because Woody touched the wrong person. This is what the police telling my family, bro. But they could have thought that though, right? I don't care what they think.

I know, I'm gonna say but like- You trying to turn my family against me. Oh yeah, to make people,

don't come over here, don't come over here type shit.

Nah, they just like, hey man, y'all need to, you know what I'm saying, say something. So now my brother getting mad, I didn't even sleep, nigga. I don't know where I slept when they locked me up. When I had my baby and seen them niggas ride up on me while I had my baby, nigga,

I put my baby so they could see. I got my baby, bro, and my girl with me. And them niggas rolled up on the side of me, I could've killed them, but I was hoping that they'd give me some type of- Grace. no grace, they let that one down, put that gun down, and I bust on their ass. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, fuck, nigga,

get up out first. And I stopped, I had to save my bullets. That was survival, my nigga. I didn't know to save my bullets. Normally I would've gave them the whole clip, but a couple days before that happened,

I heard you say, count your bullets. And that's what I did. out of life so when it comes to this street shit nigga ain't no rules I'm out the streets I don't want no problems with nobody I don't want no beef with nobody I don't want to hurt nobody and I don't want nobody to hurt me I focus on these kids because I once was a kid that would need the guidance and I was lost that's why I love these kids and beat up for them so much you're trying to get on what you never had I'm trying to make sure they don't go down that path I went down. Yeah. Idolizing the wrong people, praising the wrong people. These niggas making money

off our trauma. Same people who these labels that they signed to, invested in prisons, my nigga. That's why they pushing this drill music. The labels getting money both ways. Because as soon as you go drill something, go to prison, they getting paid off you being in jail. They get a hundred and some dollars a day.

Per inmate. They're going to stay in business forever.

It's a crazy pivot you did, though, like to be able to make money off, stand in a dim light and make it bright. You get what I'm saying? Like, to be able to, like I see you doing the comedy shit now, you know what I'm saying? I see you, like that's commendable, bro. Because most niggas are laid down.

Like through all the shit you just saying that you went through and, you know what I'm saying, could have lost your life,

could have, somebody in your family could have lost their life or however it go, and for a nigga to still be able to be positive, it's like, it gotta be good. It did good. Remember how they say, walk in your light?

Yeah.

I ain't got no skeletons in my closet, my nigga. If you fuck with me, I fuck with you. You feel me? Something like that. If you don't do nothing to me, I'm not doing nothing to you. Yeah.

And I ain't pretending, bro. Like I tell everybody, I come in peace. You feel what I'm saying? I love everybody. And like I said, I just had an interview the other night where I was just interviewing the youth. And one of the kids, one of the questions was, the child asked me, I mean I asked him, how did Thug and Loochie come together? How did it make you feel? And surprisingly, that young nigga chained my heart. He said, seeing Loochie and Thug come together made it where they can hang with Summerhill and Cleveland Avenue niggas.

Damn, damn. That's P-Write down, damn. That's real though. It made it to where Nan ain't divided basically. Right. Yeah. Right. So now, now I'm like, damn bro. I ain't look at it like that. Because you got to understand it bro, I've been battling this shit for years.

I've been battling it for years bro. I had the worst end of the stick out of everybody involved. Because everybody target me. Let me ask you something. Do you think in the moment of all that shit, like you was somewhat wit having that name like shit, that boy Woody, that boy Woody got them, pull up and got them, you know what I'm saying?

That shit was kind of like a badge of honor back then in hindsight, just looking at it, it was like shit, they know, but now, just looking at it, it was like, shit, they know. But now, but Gene know what all was gonna come with that shit. Now, like I told you, like, when we got them people that's in our life that's influencing us, all we focused on is keeping them happy.

I didn't care about what I was doing, I just cared about keeping him happy, keeping him safe, keeping him feeling like he that nigga, you feel what I'm saying? So I didn't care. How you felt like, just say Vincent, knowing when you go around, niggas thinking, oh, there go that nigga on that bullshit.

Like how that made you feel in that moment? I never was the rah-rah type.

But it was already on you though. You know what I'm saying?

It was already on, not you been, Niggas see you and you be cool, but niggas are all ready to see you and avoid you because it's on your name. If that makes sense, what I'm saying? Yeah, I get what you're saying. So with that, it's just like, the first one minute is critical. You feel what I'm saying? Everybody trying to figure him out.

And first thing I do is make everybody laugh. Okay, yeah, yeah. you want to leave from around. Stuck on my every word, you know what I'm saying? Because like I said, the internet tried to put these, you know, King Von image on me, but that ain't who I am. You feel me? So I feel where you're coming from, but you know how you-

I ain't embracing that, my nigga.

Yeah, yeah. No, I'm saying then,

were you embracing it back then though? niggas be like, oh damn, they gone with it. You feel what I'm saying? I see that look on they face, but it was never public. Yeah.

Yeah.

Even with the nut chain shit, like it wasn't hard for them to believe like, man, these niggas probably got this shit in. You know what I'm saying? To be honest with you, I ain't know I was dead, but I ain't know y'all like that. Y'all were young niggas, you know what I'm saying?

I saw you one time at Pluto Studio, and you know what I'm saying, niggas looking like what they saying niggas doing.

Because I don't know, a long time, I'm gonna bring it up, because I don't know if you remember, but I think you do. from people that you mess with. And this old guy from my neighborhood was like, hey, let me holla at you because I know this ain't your ski load. These folks trying to say you did this

had something to do with somebody's dogging kit. And they brought your name up, it was like, you getting involved. So I'm like, but because the dude, he messed with you. So instantly I'm like, man, look, bro, you putting people in shit that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. I didn't, you just say, high rock. You feel what I'm saying? I don't do that.

I don't know nothing what you talking about, though.

Yeah, I tell you off the camera.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You feel what I'm saying? But when he brought your name up, so now I'm like,

damn, this nigga want to smoke with me? Bank on smoke. Nah, but that's what I'm saying. So I know how it feel for a nigga to have something on your name that ain't even you. Like, you gotta think, bro. If a nigga can be around me, right, and do something, they gonna say, you know black niggas. And I don't even know nothing about nothing.

But at the time, I was like, fuck it, nigga, I'm taking everything, come with this shit, fuck it. You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't give a fuck, nigga, build a myth bigger. Until they start talking about them Ricos. Then I start saying, hold up, nigga can go to jail for these myths. And I ain't got nothing to do with a lot of this shit.

You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to say. So basically, you are what you're around. Or you take, like, bro, I feel so at peace that I ain't responsible for another nigga attitude, bro, this the best thing ever. Like, because niggas wake up mad at they bitch

and go start something with a whole other nigga and got me in a war. That's the best feeling ever, with it. Like, I ain't gotta be responsible for how another else feel. And that's the worst part to be, bro,

trying to be locked in with niggas and you can't control what a nigga do when you ain't around. Like, look, a nigga just sat there and said, whole time, I'm not even knowing that Woody think he beefing with me. You get what I'm saying?

Behind some more nigga shit that ain't got shit to do with me.

Yeah.

Now when I see a nigga, even though I'm already looking for niggas who gonna pay back from way back anyway,

so this shit for everybody.

I don't give a fuck who what.

You get what I'm saying?

So I don't know.

I'm like, why y'all looking like that?

And I don't even lie though, I ain't never muggin'. I'm always smilin'. Me neither, but back then I was. Yes, I ain't.

I was your ugly fuck.

Yeah, yeah you was.

But your name, your name is like way up here,

so it's like, and the nigga who's doin' it, he act like he pushin' the line. So I pull up on him like, hey look bro, let me tell you something. I don't play by my life. You feel what I'm saying? You getting other niggas involved. So nigga like, nah, I wouldn't man, you know what I mean?

Bro listen, if I did anything to you, first of all, I know how to steal some cards. I'm a use my head, that's why God gave me my, you feel what I'ma make sure you good. And he's supposed to talk to you and y'all supposed to lift it along. But we'll see off line.

But all that shit sound like a big ass, big ball cap. Yeah, so-

Nah, but your name can have you in shit that you ain't even in.

And that shit cool when he's free shit cuz you won't need to feel like don't play no you don't shit I did now I don't because it like I tell people I ain't ain't it's tough guy you feel I'm saying I was somebody living a life you know I hurt a lot okay I would pretend to be crazy I'll pretend to be you know I'm saying but sometimes you have to stand on that pretend oh exactly and what I'm saying so she shit, that pretend become real. Right?

So that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like I ain't pretending no more, my nigga I'm scary as hell. You feel me? Like real talk.

Yeah, but back in the street days, it's like when a nigga was out there, bro,

it's a dog eat dog, bro. It's like the only the strong survive. So it's like, what else you gonna do? Let me tell you this crazy thing I seen, Bank. I seen a nigga do something to somebody. That person he did something to, came back and did something to him. He went to law.

I don't see a nigga do something to somebody, and then that person came back, do something to him, and got wet. I don't see so many different scenarios. Yeah, it ain't even worth it, bro. It ain't worth it. If it ain't about protecting my family and feeding my family, man, I don't want no parts to it.

If a nigga can't see that, nigga, Stevie Wonder can see Bank different.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I'm just being real. The smile look good on you. I just had a suit on interviewing a nigga with a suit on. You know what I'm saying? Real shit. So I'm a whole different nigga. So I get it, bro, because at the end of the day, bro, this shit ain't the same.

It ain't. Now, if the streets was, okay, shit, we're gonna handle it in the street, I can respect it. Because I feel like I can handle it. It's just like how it is, like you said, nigga. This bad playman dropped my flat, what? Come back with my shit, passed out, what? Because he gonna stay some jail, but these niggas in jail, tellin' them.

But tellin' ain't never been part of the game? Yes, but it wasn't this bad. Yes, it was, baby. No, it wasn't. It just wasn't in the net, bro. It was consequences to it though. No, no, no, bitch, you ain't getting no pussy no more, or no more money. Like if your head came out, did that what you want?

It was consequences to it, bro. If I was a white man and I walked in that courtroom and did what I did, the world would be fucking crazy. Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. But due to the fact that it's me, the one who everybody want to get in there because one of the family members asked me could I stop?

But they got to understand like, like.

It's a part of your story.

Right, forever.

Lonely or nothing though.

God bless his soul and my condolences to everybody involved, you know what I'm saying? But what people fail to realize is, bro, man, it just, like, how could I put this, bro? How could I put this? It's so deep, my nigga, you feel me?

Like, real talk, but people don't understand, my nigga. People don't, everybody out here. But I think, at this point right now with it, I think you looking into it too far. I don't think it's as bad as you think it is. I think you just thinking about the shit that,

from the past or the trolls.

I think niggas actually feel as if they're like-

When this man died, bro, everybody noticed it. I did it.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Everybody, nigga.

Yeah, yeah, yeah Oh yeah. Everybody, nigga. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody convicted me. Yeah. Yeah. Homicide said the man ain't even been pronounced dead yet and your name is main name coming up. Why though? Why you think that was so? Because that stupid shit I've been doing will put a lot of fear in a lot of people's heart and the best way to get me out the street is by way of try snitching on me. All right then. So the streets try to get rid of me.

Yeah.

So everybody's saying this and saying that, but like I say, my nigga, what I was able to, you know, cause I pray and ask God to direct, lead me, Lord. I'm lost. 2015, I said, Lord, please help me. I don't know what got the feds at my door I had to go do

five years in the fair well four years is three months I got out of jail I started trying to do music I tried I started trying to create a lane for me why we never had to be breaking I end up going back to jail because I still was around them same people. Do you think that jail was saving you, though? It did. It did. But I ain't saying jail, I mean, should be a part of it. Ain't about to plan to be saved.

Oh, no, for sure. For sure.

Jail saved me for myself. I was my own enemy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Give you a chance to get your mental together, right? Man, my name was involved with everything that was going on. Shooting happened in the club, they saying it was me. I'm sitting here saying to myself, I can't take a break now, I gotta go to war with these niggas.

And this nigga's a street legend, he a legend, so I know they gonna probably smoke me,

but I gotta smoke as many of them niggas I can get. So just be honest.

The nigga said, Bank won, I'm like, fuck. But that could've been the same thing as OG was telling you, the nigga gave you a short night, gave the nigga a long night. Nigga play that same game on the street.

Like, okay, let's see if he that bad. Let's see. He said this, now they, okay, they want you to come spray me. Then they be like, you know that would it. Oh, if I make it, that would it.

Okay, now it's a full blown war. Oh, so shit, I don't even know what the fuck you talking about, 10, 20, 25, and that shit probably what? back into the trial because I don't know if y'all ignore it or y'all overlook it. I ain't watch the trial period. For sure. Everybody did. The world. Everywhere I go. I just loved it. I watched it on Instagram. Like on Instagram. They got like top 10 woody moments and all that shit. Go ahead. Go ahead. It went over a lot of people's heads

about certain calls, you know, what led to certain points where they were trying to say somebody was gonna hurt me. So people say, oh nigga, you like this, you this lawyer, you told, or whatever the case is, they say, but people not, they not paying attention to what led to that point. So it's like, my lawyer to you, I'm not really not explaining myself. I'm letting people think what they want to think. Yeah. Usually I get on the internet and say I didn't do it. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm gonna defend myself. But instead I just defended myself. But if I'm being

loyal to you and then I find out y'all niggas playing on me, I'm not ready to fight a war by myself. Y'all niggas ain't even helping me. Y'all think y'all gonna give me up for the enemies? Hell no. So y'all ain't finna let me the rest. Just try to say okay you know. Everything ain't squashing now. Yeah y'all ain't doing that. So I'm gonna go to war with everybody. But could that have been paranoid? Could you been paranoid? Because people was around was coming back and then I you know me I'm I ain't stupid I play stupid I call him temperature check your ass in the heartbeat cuz I already know people

underestimate me so I made a phone call I said oh where y'all at? Oh he ain't right here I said okay tell him it's up crashing out on him when I see him. Oh man y'all letting people get y'all confirm listen to people every word about your life.

Hold on, hold on, slow it down. Slow it down. What's happening?

So I got on the phone with somebody and I told him, hey man, this what's going on. N***a, I'm crashing. I don't want to see y'all together.

Oh, y'all.

So you basically telling me somebody feel a way about me.

No, basically saying that you going through the same thing I'm going through. You used y'all. So if me and you got a problem, you over there, I'm over here. And people tell me, oh man, you need to do this, woo, da-da-da. So now your people see what you dealing with.

They don't know what I'm dealing with. So when I call your people.

My people just confirmed you that I feel a way.

Yeah. So I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

Somebody in my ear too, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you start doing certain stuff. Bro, let me tell you move, I'm knowing how you think. Nigga go to posting me on Instagram. Oh no, you feel me? Because I've been riding with you. But I'm loading up like it December 31st.

You feel me? Let's not pretend my nigga, let's just go out there and crash. Everybody want, let's just meet up at a football field where nobody else won't get hurt. This type of nigga I am. If we got a problem, nigga, we got a problem.

I'm not gonna sneak you, I'm not gonna stab you in your back. I ain't grow up that way, my nigga. I grew up with my family, so betraying ain't never been in my blood. You feel what I'm saying?

Then I started running with these niggas and each other out, you feel what I'm saying? Once that line been drawn, you can't come back. Once somebody hit that ground, they can't never get back up. But I told Thor this, man, y'all met too grown, man, to be trying to think a nigga gonna be that loyal to each other. Like, bro, I can't meet no nigga this grown

and feel like he gonna goddamn ready to die and kill for me. I can't but we was because his influence his influence had us thinking that you know, okay, this is a God we got to protect If him because this is the breadwinner we niggas that ain't never had none. So at the end of the day We got to protect the money So we are thinking that we protecting you the whole time. You're not giving a flying fuck about us Then you get in position you remove yourself from us and act like, you know, we didn't even help you

get in that position. Now I'm saying, your talent, your talent not taking that from you, but it's a journey that you had to go through to get there. You know what I mean? The niggas pull up on me and say,

hey, but we finna start doing, you know, hell y'all ain't. But was niggas home because they were doing dumb shit on the road and shit like. I don't care what other people doing Bank. Don't ask me. I'm asking you. Was you still doing dumb shit? No I never do. I just sit on the side of you and be quiet. I'm not fit to be playing with no girls no now. That ain't what I'm here for. But your name was in shit in the streets though.

My name was in shit that niggas put it in. Nobody know how to pay Woody our attention until you start making music. Now they like, oh shit, let me watch Woody. Everybody watching everybody else because they wanted the attention. All I did was be quiet and sit on the side of you. Go look at it. But when he said it in the video, you... That right there, because you got to understand, look when he did the timing.

You embraced that shit, though. No, I didn't, my nigga. It was the timing. So when he dropped the song, it was before anything happened. Yeah. We like, you know, OK, but... Oh, yeah, for sure.

It wasn't true. So we didn't care. But he never put the music out. I'm not a scapegoat. I'm not a fall guy, nigga, do your research. These are facts. So J right there, nigga, we're aying our ass out. Me and J, we got them balled up side by side. You feel me?

And I hold her and she hold me. So I don't understand why she be showing favoritism to him when she could've lost her life too. What made you feel like she be showing her face to you? Cause how she defend him. You feel what I'm saying?

But you be defending him too though.

I do, I will. I defend him against somebody who don't know that. See Jade know what she talking about. So it's like, with her, come on Jade. You feel what I'm saying? Ain't nobody know Vietnam bro.

You can't pick and choose choose who you gonna show favoritism to it be foul way around this like me you know I'm gonna kick him could any good kick me but when they're right I'm gonna let it be knowing it right good nigga yeah you're gonna say he just got to be around good people yeah you feel me you think do you think you ever see y'all having a conversation I love him nobody never on why I start loving him he tried to bring home to me I don't see that happening though. Yeah, I don't see it happening either. Because he got a good heart.

You know what I'm saying? Just our situations, they can put us in positions.

But I'm going to go back to what you said. You said that Bruh had influence or whatever, but he was still a young nigga

that was getting influenced too though at the same time. All that shit was going on just because a nigga got talent and get that bag don't mean that they grew up in that moment. Thug is very intelligent.

See you are too but you still got influence.

I got my my intelligence from him. I spent a lot of time with him and he's just talk talk talk talk and school me.

Okay.

That boy taught me a lot. He did. And main thing he taught me was never to trust him in the beginning. What you mean? So, I told you about betray you. I don't care what a person do. I'm not betraying you. Like right now with you, Bank. When I leave here, I ain't never seen nobody nobody's address to say where you at, even though people know me. I done posted this shit. Know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, I'm not gonna do no lame shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Know what I mean? You follow up, okay, cool, I'ma get you. Or you gonna get me. But on the other hand, what that you see niggas doing... I see niggas doing slime shit, bro. Everybody out here talking, putting their opinion on it. Why says that, allegedly, court documents say, young slime like, why is people looking for loyalty in some slime ass niggas, bro? Help me understand. Thug went in the interrogation room

just like my red ass did.

This nigga thugged out, bro. You need some medicine, bro. Nah, because I want people to understand, like, just like my rat ass did. -$$%! $$%! $$%!

Nah, because I want people to understand, like, I don't condone snitching shit, so like, when people be like, oh, who the rat? Okay, cool, feel that way, you don't gotta fuck with me, because I ain't looking to fuck with you. I want people to understand, you feel what I'm saying?

Like, hey man, whatever rules and whatever y'all want to put out here in the street, portray, it ain't that my nigga. Thug went in the interrogation room too. And Thug said, hey man, I just tried to spin him. But y'all say Thug just tried to spin him, but I told. And then guess what, I saved myself, my freedom, and a lot of them. And at the end of the day, make history. I'm being talked about all over the world in law schools. I get messages every day from lawyers, hey man, we're doing a case law search on you now.

Yeah, a case study. Yeah, a case study. And I'm scared as hell, because I'm like, oh Lord, I don't, you feel what I'm saying, I don't, I don't got, got in some hot water now, because it's like the government like oh no we're not gonna let we're not gonna let you live a normal life. GF people in here every day. Once they walk up to the car they say oh who do we know is here? Go ahead. I haven't received one ticket. So what you think they're putting you for? Just see if you smoking and shit like that? Am I gonna run? Try to see do. You know what I mean? So it's like the reputation I have is I'm fast and I'm a run.

But man I don't want no problems. I just want to live, you feel what I'm saying, for myself now. I've been pretending and this is just who I am. I see you ain't doing squashy-ass shit. It wasn't no beef on my end. I knew that once, okay, if a person got a problem with me and I don't pay them no attention, they the one with the issue.

So that's what I did with him. Yeah, Charles White is a different story because you know better. Charles is a smart nigga though. To a tiny degree. That nigga a smart nigga. He just make it hard, because when he get in troll mode, he in troll mode. He make it hard to be like, to be like, you know what I'm saying?

To give him his prey because Charles gonna go so motherfucking far, man. A lot of that shit that nigga be saying be 80% of that shit that nigga be saying be 80%

accurate, bro.

But when you go to talk about- It'd be self-explaining to her, like, it'd just be the basic. He just got a way of making people accept the way that he put it out there, you feel me? Yeah. But let it be real, my nigga.

A Writer's Right, this all the way around the board, bro. care of somebody because he's a man. And as soon as you piss him off, what he do? Get in the emotion. So now you tap into his feelings, you control him. He walking out interviews and all type of shit. So it's like damn bro. But on the other hand, yeah. That could be the character though. Because when the camera, when the camera's out, that nigga totally different nigga. This is him off the camera. Charles White on camera, it's him off camera. I studied people, I didn't go live study, I learned it. I'm saying me too, but well not with me. When he pull up, that nigga pull up by himself, regular, what's up bro, it was regular.

Turn them cameras on, that nigga turnin', Charleston White.

Let me tell you what these niggas did. Our first time getting together, after everything he said about my daughter, him up at the Bojangles on 14th Duster and he was by himself. I was trying to see where the hell the feds were hiding. I know he ain't that dead there. And as I'm sitting here looking at him like, see I know he studied me too. Because he made that move. That's the only way he was going to make me respect him. But he just got to understand I see everybody as people. I ain't trying to hurt nobody no more. Oh, you're saying basically he told you to pull up just to let you know,

I ain't scared nigga, whatever it's finna be, it's finna be, I ain't on that.

Nah, he's stupid. He's stupid for pulling up like that. See, he thinking that, oh, okay, nah, he's stupid. But I know the world watching me and he know that. See, Charles White, see, I beat him. I outsmarted him again. He was hoping to get some type of reaction out of me. Charles White the type of nigga to put himself in a situation because he only thinking about the money.

If Charles White go to jail, like he's just gonna go on Barry. Who Barry? So I met Barry through Charles White and he kinda managed me. So him and Barry, they been getting ahead of problems.

So Barry met me and they liked me and started working with me. Him and Charles White fell out. Long story short, Charles White punched Barry in front of the police at the comedy show. So I'm like, Charles White swung on you? You ain't my type of nigga.

You supposed to already seen that coming. Never put yourself in a situation where somebody can hit you. Keep that nigga in your sight. So I'm mad as hell at Barry, but if we would have did that to Charles White, the Connecticut County would have locked us up.

So he ain't go to jail?

Uh-uh, but I told Barry, if you put a one out on Charles White, he gonna go to jail for misdemeanor. He already done researched it. He gonna go to jail for misdemeanor, but he gonna get a whole lot of bookings

to explain his story. Yeah. Yo, so I tell Barry, I called Charles White like two days later, me and him on the phone, and we talking, and he said it. I'm laughing. I said, oh, smarted you. Again, during the coming of the show,

he thought I was gonna fail. Those people, they fucking cheered me on. They clapped for me, they stood up. I was like, oh, wow.

You feel what I'm saying?

So he is smart shit. He, see, he like the state. He try to calculate his move. So what he want to show people is that, who this stupid, you can't work with him. So I had to show people that I'm human. Oh, so if you're unbearable to try to get on his ass or something,

yeah, that would have, yeah.

It would have messed up my career. It'll show I'm violent, I'm stupid, I'm ignorant, but this is what he want. Damn. Yeah, so you gotta understand. You think he thinking that deep into it? That's Charles White. You gotta understand, I outsmarted him once. People don't like to be outsmarted. I outsmarted Charles White before. And, you know, he like, fuck it, how could I do it? Nick, you had me come pick you up at a Bojangles by yourself? And I took you to my neighborhood, took you around my family. Them kids walked up on him like,

who would let me get him? I like, hell no. Why this a old man? Respect your elders. I didn't go around beating up my elders. Yes, I did. But you know, I-

I- I- I-

I- I need a throw down, man.

Cause I ain't gonna lie, I didn't know better. But Charles White is a person that I ain't gotta worry about no harm. If you ain't no threat to my life, I ain't finna be none of yours.

But I ain't, I'm gonna keep it real, like, I seen early, Charles ain't really folding like that, though. What you mean? Like wherever niggas say he can't go, he be there.

Hey Bank, if I ain't had internet on me, I would got him.

No, but I'm just saying.

If I didn't have the internet, listen to me, my nigga. But still, he came. He came, no matter what, no matter what, bro, he came. He came prepared. Prepared like what? What you mean prepared like what? He came prepared. You think that man came to meet me?

When he got real police friends that tell him, hey, be careful with Woody. Be careful with Woody. You feel me? But what I'm saying is we can't steal, can't take away from the nigga a pull up though.

Let me tell you this. when I was on that type of time and I tried getting him to pull up, he didn't pull up. But a lot of niggas, that nigga done dissed the Muslims. That nigga done dissed everybody you can diss and he be there. It's different my nigga.

We gonna take you out of it. We gonna take you out of it.

It's different. Charles White gonna really put the law on you. See when everybody... But when, like they just said, I'm gonna quote him, when did a nigga give a fuck about a nigga calling the police

when you done played with me?

Um, cause you gotta understand, you grown. When I had Charles Wright right there, boy, I was going through so many emotions, and I knew it was good, like, Woody, you got it. You can do this, Woody, you built for this. You saying they all words. a real line. Man, Charles White was in my passenger seat like, you know, I'm trying to play sleep.

As I'm driving, I don't know to be mad. I don't know what the fuck to feel, bro. I'm like, this nigga playing with me, bro.

So I'm looking at my rearview like, where they at? I'm riding. You tell you're trying to play sleep, blinking and everything, nigga peeking. I'm looking for 12 though, but I'm looking for 12, though. But I'm telling you, myself, like, this is a career move. You feel what I'm saying? Charles White, he'll open doors to help me, you know, be a better man to my family and my kids. But I keep looking at that nigga, he trying to keep his eye closed on the motherfucker, just keep moving. You feel me?

He seen them young boys. Young boy walking up when he was shaking hands. He like, shit, I'm like, you ready to go? He like, uh-uh. So I'm like, you ain't ready to go? I'm feeling uncomfortable for you. I'm looking at my phone like,

man, please don't touch this man. He not worth it. This nigga not a threat. My daughter right here. Look at how beautiful she is. Just the most beautiful gift God ever gave me. Facts. I ain't never let nobody take me away from her unless they harm her or my other two kids.

What about all the other people he talk shit about though?

And he be in the full town. And God is telling them, let life deal with Charles. You gotta understand Charles White is a person like, no disrespect to him, but this really sound disrespectful either way it goes. But he a motherfucker with one eye. He been getting

picked on his whole life. His whole life is about misery. Where people have bullied him, overlooked him, and so now he doing things because he finally got people's attention. You feel me? So he'll treat people how people treated him. He's hurt. Listen to him when he talk, my nigga. He said that though. He said that though. I understand him. I understand him. He said that though.

I understand him. He said, I tried to goddamn come with the right way, man. Y'all folks laughing at me, laughing at my car, laughing at me. And now he understand.

He said that, what you saying?

He understand. About the money. So now guess what he do?

Everything content to him. That's what he called me and said when that Thug shit first popped up, boy, come on, boy, come on. I was like, nah, I can't do that. He said, nigga, is you in this shit for the money or for the friend? I was like, full on up, Charles. He definitely didn't call, but Thug called the same day,

so I had to go, you know, get that one. Yeah, as you should. You know, do him dirt, you know what I'm saying? Cause you see he hurting. And that's why I respected you for. Like despite how I feel about Thug, I love him.

I don't want to see him hurting. You know what I'm saying? Cause I know like, I've been hurting for so long. I know how it feel. He don't know how to deal with it. He ain't been going to jail. So that's why it's like that. Like I tell Thor, snap back, get back to your old self, go make music. We still rooting for you. We still cheering you on, my nigga.

Even Lucha, people like, how the hell you gonna be mad at Thug and Lucha for coming together? But you just came together with Charles White. He talked about your child. Well, Charles White ain't no threat. Ain't no blood been shed. the young man just checked me. Doug and Lucious doing what they did made me feel like it's okay to shake somebody's hand for Cleveland Avenue and something here.

So you can stop the blood from being shed.

Yeah, but it's a lot of parents. It's a lot of moms out here hurting my nigga. You feel me? Like a lot of people that wasn't even, like niggas don't die on Cleveland Avenue side. That wasn't really promoting the violence. They really went with the beef shit. But could we think, could we think, and this just me just being on the outside,

could we say that they did the song to officiate that it ain't no beef, but we ain't saying them niggas is friends. Bro, we respect them more by squashing it. But how do you squash it without squashing it all the way, saying like, I'm just asking, I'm just asking.

So when they squashed the beef, when they bought, when the baby bought him on the state. But Thug wasn't involved with that though. Yes he was. I'm saying he wasn't there. He had to be there. Everybody already know where I say goes. Thug already let it be known where he stood.

Excuse me, where he stood at.

Okay, I get what you're saying.

Because we already, you know, we just said it, we get worried first. I got an interview saying if Thug and Lucha squad should be, they'd be big for the city. Yeah. But I ain't say gonna be friends.

But who say they friends?

Thug and Lucha.

How?

They said, and play what's his name, Thug said Lucha his friend when he made a post. But I understand Thug. But my thing be is like, hey bro, hey, if you gonna be for real about this right here, you got to be for real out there on the board. Forgive Gunna. I don't feel like Gunna did nothing wrong. Like everybody keeps saying it.

If y'all feel like Gunna did it wrong, that means Thug did it wrong. Because Shannon and Yep, the only two that went out of the way and reached a verdict of not guilty. Tho the only one went out of the way too with the process. So my thing is... I think they're trying to say Gunna did it wrong because he said YSL must end.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did it wrong then. YSL can't ever end. You know what I'm saying? I think that's what Thug said in an interview, right? Like, I just feel like, how you gonna say this shit must end? Well, see... Or you had knowledge of crimes type shit. Them the only two things that they signed a safe. But Gunna the only one that ain't got no interrogation video.

Help me understand that.

Yeah.

Dough, you got a whole interrogation video. But that one about this trial though, right? Right. People with Roscoe got locked up. So people don't understand this, right? Roscoe got locked up 2015. Thug Interrogation was what? 2015, 2016, one of them. Roscoe was in jail fighting their case. That don't make sense to you? So everybody

said this nigga, Roscoe the only one still kept round. Why you keeping Roscoe close my nigga? Cause Roscoe got something on you.

Why the hell you, uh... Hey, let me ask you this. You sat down with No Jumper and Wack was there. How was that?

Did y'all have problems with something before that? Wooted today and Wooted yesterday is not Wooted 10 years ago. Okay. These niggas ain't worth it. If you're not a threat to my life, I ain't care.

Wack came through the door on that friendly type of time. Hey man, there go the man right there. And you know, when he came with that energy, you know, I'm gonna feed off how you are towards me. You aggressive, I'm gonna aggressive. You cool, I'm cool.

We talk, you know what I mean? Wett is about content. But he the fed it serious, basically. Uh-uh. What make you feel like he the fed? Cause I been to the feds, and um, just like when you a street nigga, you walk in the club and you see the feds in the club, you know right then and there they the fed.

You saying just they aura?

Nah, where the fed?

What the hell you talking about, bro? How you figure that though?

Why ain't nobody put no paperwork on the man? Cook, when you're a confidential informant, your name is not Cash Jones or whatever his name is, it's not there no more. It's C-I-C-S numbers or whatever they want to, code name they want to make you.

You're never going to be in the paperwork. When you're an inform make you you're never gonna be in the paperwork when you when you when you're in farming and you're working for the government they're not gonna the shit that you doing is not gonna be documented it gonna be fat under seal and a lot of people be playing with these niggas like these niggas really are working they really are on this why they doing what they are doing the face heres sit here and watch these interviews

and what's name and build their cases on it. And you know, they doing it. We're wet, it's deep. Like what? It's deeper than they can get. You gotta think about it, he been in the game

long enough to keep the feds. The feds don't care about money All they care about is information what's going on the feds want to be ahead You feel me? So if you go look at anybody, how long you been free? He say, you know 20 some years how long he been free, right and I asked him when you honor the

federal the government Payroll, you know an informant do they lock you up and he say no I left it alone I did it on purpose oh yes in the interview mm-hmm go back watch he admitted he admitted what he admitted it uh the feds don't want the informant's in position to feed them information he admitted it I just don't know their informants in position to feed them information. He admitted it.

I just don't mind. I just sat there and laughed. Because everybody think I'm stupid. But he ain't in the streets though, though, right? He's in position where he can give the feds information about celebrities.

Everybody talk too much. Everybody want to be heard. Everybody want to be seen. This come with being famous. Just like me sitting on this podcast, I gotta be able to talk to you so that people can hear the story,

so they can be entertained or whatever, you feel me? Yeah, so.

I'ma tell you, I watch your interview every time you do with dudes, what them dudes?

They got dope projects. Danza. Yeah, I like the nigga's shit. Yeah, you, you, you. When I first watched the first one you did with them niggas, I was like, nah. But it done tapped in. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what a nigga was before all that street shit, whatever, but somebody done talked to this man.

You know what I'm saying? Because you letting it all out. You vulnerable, you telling goddamn where you come from, how you grew up, your family, your man that passed away, all this shit. I'm living in my family, your man that passed away, all this shit, you know what I'm saying? So... I'm living in my truth, my nigga.

That's the best place to live at.

I ain't, I'm tired of faking, I'm tired of pretending. I ain't even talking about it, I'm just doing it.

Yeah.

Every time I turn around, I'm doing something. You feel me? I got autistic Woody, I worked with Shamar. I worked with Boots. You know what I mean? Them niggas came in, hey, Woody, stop doing video with Shamar. Who the hell is you to tell me to stop?

Shamar lit. Shamar lit, now though.

Well, now? But see, a lot of people say, Woody, you did that. Oh, but you're saying like, at first, yeah. treated equally. Don't worry about his disability or whatever. He turned up though and took that hat shit off and then with a hat on he loat. Regular nigga he loat that shit. Super Hollywood. Yeah.

Glass and shit over him.

Come on, see me talk. Boom bitch. Man, God gonna make a way for your children man. Always. No matter what it is, you can't look past nobody. That's one thing I never did, bro. Look at a motherfucker in they situation and feel like I'm better than them

because they may seem lower than me at the time. I ain't never did that, bro, because I done been a nigga down there. Them niggas felt like, boy, it's over with. Niggas ain't, but, you know what I'm saying? Like I stop and talk to a motherfucker for 45 minutes. A motherfucker that you'll walk past or spit on the ground.

Just cause you never know how them folk got there and it's so easy for a nigga mind to shift to wrong way and snap. And you be out there talking to the motherfucker moon. I be wanting to know like, bro, what happened? What was you?

Cause a lot of these folk was something

before they were that.

And they remember how they got to that something. Man, people are speaking about you. Real talk. People are speaking about you in a great way. Danz and them did. A few other people that I went, had a conversation with and it was like, you know, man I like that dude Bain, you know what I mean, I like how he carried on. And I told them, I said, listen, from what I used to hear about him and how I see him now, is way different. Like, you're a great leader. Because you took everything you went through and you transferred.

So right now, it's like what I'm doing now. I'm trying to take that negative shit that my past hold up and turn it into a positive. You did that. Nah, for sure, but it's still a challenge though. Everyday challenge, you know what I'm saying? You still see niggas online talking shit, niggas be DMing, niggas be trying me to fuck away, bro.

But I just be like, you ain't trying me because it's on the internet. You successful, my nigga. Why would you entertain somebody that ain't? I be wanting to do something, though.

For what?

I don't know.

Let me tell you something.

Why waste your time with a broke nigga, my nigga? But you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying that's just, that's the, that's like, it's going on, it right here on my neck. It was it right here. It's on my neck. It going away now. It's like, it's going on out. But that's just who you are because, especially when you see a motherfucker who know.

Like now you tough.

I caught somebody down bad. Didn't even see me. I had him. Didn't even see me. I was standing right there. Didn't see me. Never knew I was right there that night. I said, easy. It's easy. That's what it seemed like. But it's a camera right there.

Oh boy, that shit over with.

That phone got you. Man, bro, it's so much. So guess what I'm saying. This nigga ain't worth that.

Yeah.

But my kids. to do on the slap that motherfucking mouth to get me a little simple barry shit I ain't on paper I keep on that tonight yeah shit out your head now I talked to somebody right I had a plan for Charles White I'm beyond idea to humiliate him I could yeah yeah you know what I'm saying. Yeah, humiliated. So, my plan was, when we do the comedy, I was gonna get him on the stage with me, and I was gonna show the world that, you know, these type of niggas that talk on the internet won't say it in your face. And I was gonna do a joke, and I was gonna be like, hey Charles White, tell the where I pussy these niggas here and get on the West name No, he gonna cut up and be like, you know Yeah, come when you wanna nigga face they won't say then and say all this shit you had to say about my child And and give him opportunity to say it in my face

So you got two choices. You gotta say it and let's get this motherfucker going Are you gonna bat down? He was gonna say it. He wasn't gonna say it. Shit. I promise you he wasn't gonna say it. And he's a cop. No he didn't. No he didn't. Because he underestimated me. I don't think he would say it about your daughter. Listen, listen my nigga. Yeah. Charles White underestimated me. He's telling me all the time, my friends say don't go around you. I was telling him, I said, and your dumbass went around me. But you know, God love me so much, man, nigga. I can pray your ass for something, and God give it to me today. Why you say you're an ass major, though? Because he can't. He can't. I don't give a fuck about it.

He could've been trying to make amends, though. Ain't no making amends. My daughter innocent. She ain't. My daughters don't do nothing but make people date, nigga, she walk up on you. If I had her right now, she'd hug you. Nah, I dig what you saying about that, yeah. You feel me? Yeah, yeah.

Nigga, my- You saying like you went too far to feel like you can come back from that. And for you to try to act like you coming back from that, you just trying, man. Nah, so my thing is, seeing you started doing this to other people so I don't want no apologies. Don't apologize because this is just who you are. But I know that them people family

wish they get their hands on. I got them. You feel me? But I'm saying to myself, I'm looking at him. He not worth it. He not worth it. Charles is a really good dude. He just been through so much but people don't understand it. So I tell Charles White, stop kicking people. He looked me right in my eye and said, fuck him. So when I looked at him, I'm saying to myself like, he don't give a fuck. It don't matter to him.

But could he be so far, so far, the way he make his money,

that he'd be like, shit, bro, that's the way I make my money. To be honest with you, I understand him, but the man really on some shit like, everything is content. It's not, it's real life. When he was riding in my car,

that whole time he was with me, I was just like, Lord, keep giving me the strength.

He'd say he think everybody playing.

I know just the devil testing me. He said he think everybody playing. Including him. Because let me tell you something, when I looked over there, he was playing sleep. I fucking drilling with Russian, my nigga. I'm trying to see where 12 at, because I don't give a fuck. I ain't scared of them. You feel me? But I'm saying to myself, my kids need me more than anything. You feel me? Charles White called me every day. For real, right now, he called me every day.

And I said, yeah, God, I know the devil mad. I beat him, I beat the devil.

But he gonna come, after this, you think he gonna come back and say some shit?

No, cause we understand each other. You feel what I'm saying? Well, both of y'all just talking shit. I get on the internet and say something about my child, Lord knows I'm gonna crash out. I don't give a fuck who see me. I be, I don't give a fuck about them violating me. Okay, y'all had a conversation about that. We ain't had no conversation about it.

I let this nigga know like, okay bro, you did what you did, this ain't gonna change me. You feel what I'm saying? But I'm not, I'm not, I'm human. You're not going to continue to kick me. But that's still you hopping back in your emotions. You just said you're paying it. It's not about my emotion because it was about my emotion. I would have did it. But I'm saying if you if he do it again and you understand him,

there's about he got no response to this. He got no reason to do it again. If it's a response to this, what you saying now? I'm crashing out now by saying it. You know him. Yeah, but then I want him to know that we at that point are no return. Because I got genuine love for you, bro. I'm not here to bash you or talk down on you.

My love for you is real. I showed you that, my nigga. I forgave you.

You saying you get on there and talk about me, bro, but that's our line right now.

Say what you want to say about me, but let's not cross that line. Don't even say what you have to say about me because at the end of the day, my nigga, like I already showed you, like I'm living in my truth.

Yeah.

I ain't out here trying to portray an image. I battle and I deal with stuff on a day-to-day basis, my nigga. There's only so much I can take.

Yeah.

You feel what I'm saying? anything. Every time I get in a relationship with a female, they become jealous of my child because I let it be known I love this baby more than I love anything. And I don't do that, but it's just like people don't know how much this baby gave me purpose. Even though I got other kids, she gave me... When I wanted to give up, I thought you said if I put that phone on mute. Didn't Lil' One call me, man. Didn't Lil' One, man. You know he can call with it no matter if it's all that motherfucker gonna go through. Okay.

I'm call you in a minute, Peter.

Alright.

Um.

444. What that number mean? I keep seeing that shit.

Ain't your number. Cut. Cut. You bliss, my nigga. You always be bliss. I receive it. And with Charles White, man, it's just like, bro, you tested me, you feel what I'm saying? Whatever you expecting to happen, you've been around me, you know how serious I am.

You know when it come to that violence, I got zero tolerance for it. So it's like, okay, cool, you don't got no reason. We work, we talk, we kick it. He give me advice, I gave him advice. You know, that's it. Yeah, you saying, bro, the way I fuck with you, you shouldn't be the one that try to push me over the limit.

The way me and you fuck with each other, bro, you shouldn't be the one that try to make me crash out, bro, if you saying you fuck with me. Basically what you saying. But if you pay problem, Charles White, like let's go to the mall. Me being wooed, I always this person, I'm not looking at myself like a star,

a celebrity, a famous person. I'm looking at myself as the same as I always been. But when we go to the mall, everybody wanna take pictures with me. So I'm like, I get overcrowd, I been in jail, I been in situations where you got white people,

I don't like damn. And then you know once I see that it's all love I come up, hey y'all take pictures with Charles White right here too? We take pictures but then I don't know what happened you feel what I'm saying? It's just like damn. All of a sudden you gonna create a whole problem with this and you took it to the internet so you don't say everything you had to say. This shit can't provoke me. But it's like, okay, I forgave you. You know what I'm saying? Normally, once you know me, like a lot of my old friends,

oh man, we ain't fucking with you, we don't totally interrogation you. Y'all niggas know me, I gave y'all the shit off my back. No matter what happened with me in another situation, That's all you should remember. So now y'all niggas don't pick y'all's... Thug don't know y'all don't even acknowledge y'all niggas. Y'all all on them mad nuts.

Now Thug don't in interrogation room, they been fighting, oh Thug can do it. Oh he can. Cool, so help me understand what it was Thug did that make y'all be like, okay, Thug can do that compared to what it was I did. I asked him, you ain't seen what I asked him, what he said? He said them niggas were actually telling.

He said what he did was he was trying to free his mans.

So what he tried compared to what I did, it's a difference my nigga, you said he tried. I did it. No, hold on, hold on, let me say this. You know, like I said on the interview, I ain't trying to defend or condemn no nigga. I'm just here to play politics, standing in the middle.

The nigga say, I don't think he feel like you did nothing wrong with all that. I think only thing he said, what you said was, you started all that bullshit. I don't think he feel like you, me personally,

I don't think he feel like you did nothing wrong with all that other shit. I don't. I'ma be honest. I got my feelings. Because it's like, my nigga, you know, I'd sit here and tell the chain. I took everything. The blame for it, the snitching. I took everything. The jail time, the loss.

I took all the suffering. For you to get on a business. Me and you had a talk one day. Me and him had a talk and I looked him in his eyes and I said, trust me. And that's exactly the way he responded. He looked at me and shook his head.

You smile when all that shit was going on?

I'm talking about me and him know when I'm talking about. Oh yeah, okay, say less, say less, say that, say that. Let me ask you something though, cause I don't want to make this, you know what I'm saying, just a thug, thug shit. How you feel about, did you watch the shit with,

Lil' Shilain Lai?

Mm-hmm, I watched some of it.

How you feel about what he was saying?

Bullshit. In what way? So you said, you watch OGs do this or you think this is what they do? No, he's saying that that's what they basically coerce in the dorm. So my thing is, like, this is bullshit because it's like, okay, you knew right and wrong, no matter what the situation was.

But I'm not saying in a bad way towards Sly Light, because he wasn't no person that go to jail. He don't know how this go. Yeah, that's what he said. Right. So that's what I'm saying. But I say the bullshit because he tried to throw Moonton another gun. I don't like that. I didn't like that.

You feel what I'm saying?

At all.

He was good until he said that part. Like what Moonton said? Yeah. Man, you know what I mean? I do a dime. I ain't doing no dime. probably did say that, but it's just the fact that how niggas try to play it like okay I follow the lead, I follow the lead of the big bros.

You know what I mean? Like nah my nigga, you just did what was best for you. That's it. That's it my nigga. You know what I mean? You a kid. But we gotta play devil advocate and say, like he broke it down, he said he heard Brian Steele say that that was a good deal. So he thinking that D threw up words like, take the deals. Could that work like that?

Bro, listen, this your life, my nigga? Why you ain't gonna throw up the green light to do something?

You feel me?

No, yeah, I feel you on that.

Why you doing that?

Yeah.

So at the end of the day, my nigga. But we're a team though. We own the case together. That's why I respect it. I respect that.

We're a team, we own the case together now.

So when they did that, guess what I said? Okay. Because for one, if this a RICO, all lawyers should be working together. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So he thinking by Brian telling them lawyers that they're working together, saying, okay, good deal, you got your client. So, shit, niggas like, shit, where them deals at? They just seen Gunna walk out that motherfucker. So, shit, we don't know if Thoroughbred told Gunna to take it, he didn't, know what I'm saying? If you was on that goddamn case and you don't see him going to walk out and they came and told you to go home. You feel the weight on third world or you feel to go home?

If I was on that case, they'll probably have me in third position. I can't say.

You're getting my nerve.

I'm just keeping it real. They'll probably have me in third position. I can't say.

You know what I'm saying?

Hey, for sure.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. We sliding like shawty in them. Sliding like shawty should never even been on the case. For when?

Exactly. I don't think a gun should have been on the case either. I think the way them folk play it is, OK, we're going to get some niggas in here that really ain't got nothing to do with it.

We know they're going to start trying tell whatever it is that they know. Uh-uh, so I'm gonna tell you the whole strategy to the Wyseere trial. It was to humiliate. Did I say that right, motherfuckers? You got me over here trying to get the words out of my head.

I mean the same way though, go ahead, go ahead.

So what they tried to do is say, you know what, even if we don't get a conviction, we destroyed their street credibility type shit. Yeah. That's why they got Gunna, Slime Life, Shouted, Duke. You know what I'm saying? You know, what they do is what they do. I'm not trying to take away from their street image. But at the end of the day, this whole why Cerrico came about,

it really was one thing. As everybody seen, it was only about the nut. Once it was... Everybody else was just people they was grabbing and just trying to put all that together. That was their mistake on the state side.

You feel what I'm saying? Because it's like you made something... You tried to make something bigger than what it was. Mm-hmm. So when you went grabbing all these people and doing what you was doing,

that's when I noticed, like, oh, they don't care. But you do know you better not get in no more trouble

in that Fulton County.

That's why I want everybody to know how serious I am.

Like nothing, boy, you better not steal a cable.

Well, I been stealing out of the store. I been stealing bubblegum and shit, but. But, nah, real shit, because you pissed them folks off. They did it, bro. Like, I Like I understand, I been dealing with it for 10 years, my nigga. This ain't what I asked for. You feel what I'm saying?

I'm living out survival, bro. The state know, like everybody try to say I'm a killer. If I was a killer, I'd be spending the rest of my life in jail with the rest of the killers.

How you think it would've went

if Glanville would've stayed in there? Whew. Them boys, even if the jurors said not guilty, he's a guilty motherfucker.

He would say it himself.

Yeah, Glenvin went playing with Thug.

Yeah.

He didn't want nobody but Thug. And this is what I seen with my own eyes. I was like, that would put fear in me. That would scare me like, oh wow, these judges too invested in this case. Like, damn, they want him.

You feel what I'm saying? Something like that. But that's where I understood the power of influence. Because the judge felt like, you know, I'm going to hold you accountable. You got this influence to do this and do that, and this is what you used it for. I'm only assuming that was his issue because I'm pretty sure Thorough don't know Glenville. But the judge was serious. Rob Markman You got, we got four years to 2030. What 2030 look like for Woody?

Right now, I'm trying to be a great example to the upcoming artists, youth, that you can be whatever you want. You can do whatever. You ain't got to just be labeled a rapper. You can do stand-up comedy. You can do movies. You can do all this. Be all you can be. It's your life. It's your path. With me, 2030, I'm in the movies. I'ma have a whole big program with the youth where they people be like, you know what? We gotta get his ass, you feel what I'm saying? Because he making a difference in the world.

Trying to get that crime rate in Atlanta all the way down. You feel what I'm saying? And I ain't asking nobody to be a part of it, you just show up and be a part of it. But you know, I'm going to do it because I once was a Louse kid. So I'm having kids going to the House game, Falcons game, Braves game, just to show them it's more to life because that's why I love thugs. That nigga put me on a plane, took me to another state.

You know, we had our differences. But- It just shows you it was something outside of McCannville. Yep. In Atlanta, yeah. Mm-hmm. Let me give you this before you go. I think what you should do is go ahead and write a hypothetical book. Like, talking about everything that you've been through, but put a disclaimer, like, some of this shit is fake. And just tell all the shit that you ain't told, all the shit, exaggerate some shit,

that shit'll be a bestseller. Yeah, I know, but it's like, I want to, baby. I even wrote it, crazy. I can tell you the intro and everything. It's a crazy book, but it's like, what part with the kids accept? They gonna accept their bullshit.

They gonna accept their violence. I was doing shit that you wouldn't even believe, my nigga. But you gotta tell the kids, I'm lying. You can't, cause now, see let me tell you this. I pause in the mind, when I start putting things in their mind that they would never even thought about.

You feel me? So damn, that's commendable. You saying you'll goddamn pull back from the bag just to make sure them, just so you won't contradict

what you're doing with the kids. Yes sir. That's silent. You gotta understand that, man. I didn't know what a gun was until I seen it on TV. I heard about it in a rap song. I wasn't raised around a gun before I saw a gun.

I seen this shit on TV. I just liked the gun by watching it on TV.

Damn.

Real shit. I learned how to drive by watching TV. I learned how to steal cars by watching TV. I learned how to be stupid by watching TV. So now I'm getting out here with, I'm out here every day with the youth, every day. When I ain't working, like when I leave here, I'm going to go with the youth. I'm going to talk every last one of y'all, build a YouTube.

Y'all post on Instagram and TikTok for free. Post on YouTube and get paid.

So what about the streaming shit? I see you had started streaming. What you doing?

You bagging up from that? Screaming, but 12 be pulling up, my nigga. My life real, bro. You feel me?

Pull up while you streaming?

Hell yeah. Like when I go live, I just went to try to take care of child support. Nigga GFP watching my live. Nigga, as soon as they see where I'm at, nigga GFP pull up. I said, damn, they finna get me. Everybody on there laugh like,

man, this nigga paranoid. Nigga, GFP ride by, nigga go sit around the corner, wait on me. I wait on him. Soon as I get in me down, pull me over, I pull over, what's up, let the winner down. Man, this man pulled me over seven times,

the same state trooper. That same state trooper. Oh, would I swear I ain't notice you? How you not notice me, you put me over in the same car every damn chance you get. See, you want me to run.

You hoping I got something you want to be that super car They locked me up and put me away for the rest of your life But let me tell you something my nigga. I've been living a lie This job see me for who I really am

Mm-hmm. I

Ain't never going back to how I used to be but in my it's in my name that stream shit on it Yeah, my nigga, but like I tell you buddy real it real bro, bro. Nobody wanna be getting harassed by the police. I can't, every time I think I'm getting my life together, they gonna come remind me, we still on you. Then you got other envious and jealous people out in the world, so it's just like,

trying to put myself in the situation. Like, I go home and do it in the house, but I lose motivation, you feel what I'm saying, to go live as much because it's like the more I sit on the internet and talk it's like more I be exposing myself. But why you talking about you? Why you just don't like you know how someone like like how most of them niggas do they just talk about current topics they just get a perspective on different topics. Like

shit that's going on in the world like the food stamps like goddamn this and that. I ain't out of the way though. Okay. Like how said, niggas say something to you. I ain't out of the way there. I ain't gonna lie. I want to be out of the way there, but I ain't gonna lie. I'd be down there on my way to you before God said,

what the hell is you doing, wood? Nah, that's a great answer. That's why I said it. That's why they be like, Bank, man, you gotta start speaking up. I ain't gonna be able to take what they say back. So I just let them folk go on and ask people questions and give them my perspective and could you look at it like this? Fuck how I feel about it. You know what I'm saying?

Cause that's when niggas go to, that's when shit happen, when you personalize how you really feel about something. Fuck how I feel about something.

You ask me how I felt about some shit, Other than that, I ain't volunteering that. Let me show you how unique God is. Last year, God revealed everybody hand to me. Let me tell you what God knows about me that most people don't know. I'm a good person by heart. If I'm with you, I'm with you every step of the way, every breath I take.

I ain't never did no lame shit no nigga first. Never. That's something I can say proudly. Why you think I smile, nigga. Ain't got nothing in my past where I gotta, everybody say I'm a snitch. No, I don't give a fuck, we know the truth.

Bro, I would give you my last. If it's a thousand dollars, nigga, I don't give a fuck. If it's my last, I would give it to you. And that would be my downfall. That'd be my downfall, that be my problem. Mm-hmm. People please. God said, before I reward you, I'm gonna show you.

Why, which?

My nigga, I couldn't even get $10 to get nothing to eat from nobody. I couldn't call nobody's phone and ask them to pray for me. Nigga, I went three days without eating, nigga. All I did was work out and prepare for the trial. Nigga, I told my family every day, nigga,

I'm about to be rich, nigga. I don't know how, but I feel it.

But you know, that's what, for any nigga that watching, that's what it is, bro. When you going through the worst times, the best times are near.

Amen. That's the truth. That's the God of the truth. You know what happened, my nigga. Nigga I woke up the next day nigga and had to go in the courtroom nigga and look my nigga I ain't need to tell my family to come. I called them told them this last time I go to jail because I gotta go to jail. I gotta go to jail. I gotta go in and plead the fifth because this ain't my duty to sit up here and

oh yeah the first time when you went in there yeah they they put they booked you to them yeah I went to jail yeah she tip a little people ain't realize it wasn't scared so how long would you have to stay have to stay if you man they're gonna take me to court every day I didn't even know that I thought that once I plead the fifth I just gonna sit in jail to whatever I told people give me two years I'm willing to go sit in jail for two years

for people that I feel like said fuck my life.

But you had to stay in jail till after the trial over?

That judge told me indefinitely. I still can't pronounce it right. Indefinitely. Like, so I'm like, what they mean? That nigga said until every defendant have resolved. Every defendant have resolved. Every defendant. So I'm like, damn, that could take years.

And then, you know, it's me. How could you outsmart me? You feel me? I never talked to you. I never talked to the prosecutors for them to know what my response gonna be,

my attitude gonna be. Never talked to the defense for them to know how I did, told Brian Steer, don't break up what I did.

So when did you concoct, okay, I'm finna get out now,

just go in here and be wood? I never was, my nigga. Don't force me. Don't matter whoever it is, don't force me. Cause when you force me, I'm gonna stand up to you.

I'm gonna stand up to you. I'm gonna stand up for myself. Oh, you saying, I was never gonna go do it. Cause I remember you put out a tweet or something. I mean, uh.

I post during the trial.

Yeah, before, like right before the trial. Yeah, right before you got on college union. What you had said, something like, throw up my boy, something like that. What you said? Throw up innocent? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Nick was already saying like, shit, shout ain't going in there. So, your whole thing was then,

your mindset was, boy, I'm pleading the fifth. Yeah, the prosecutor knew. I been told I'm gonna plead the fifth. Every time they lock me up, they offer me, time, sir, you go free, no papers, no nothing. And I mean, just say no.

So, they saw what I was doing. doing that's why they put this the interrogation video out there okay let's take it screak credibility the way did he gonna cooperate no I ain't I don't give a fuck about how these people I'm living his life yeah okay what do you people think so when when they didn't indict me and didn't charge me I was like oh wow you feel me guys good God is real and you know whatever come with it you know I mean I don't woody so I don't want it. So I know how to handle myself. So when I was going to trial and I was sitting there,

I didn't have the feeling because I never thought I'd see myself on the stand. You know what I'm saying? But as in on the stand cooperating, I knew I'd never do that. Despite how nobody feel.

And if any nigga out there want to test me out, you know, get some stripes. Let me tell you what the police ain't gonna never do. They ain't not gonna want to never sit down and interview me. My credibility to law enforcement is dead.

What you, hold up, break it down what you saying. You telling them what?

I'm telling them to pull up. Cause the police gonna bleed them over you, regardless. I'm saying my nigga, if a nigga feeling some type of way towards me, my nigga, and you feel like I don't deserve to be treated like any other person do, and you want to take it upon yourself and eliminate me, pull up.

You ain't got to worry about me missing. I think that's all in your head though. Like me, that's all in my head that niggas won't pay back from way back.

That's all in your life. Y'all spending y'all time and bitching at me and worrying about me. You ain't got to worry about me telling on you. The police won't believe me. The police don't like me. They don't fuck with me at all.

So if you want to come do something to me and I live, you ain't gotta worry about going to jail for it. You gotta worry about me knocking on your front door. Lit bet. Nah, you just can't even absorb that energy, bro. Like when you think about that, you gotta be like, that ain't coming from me, I'm different. It hurt, it hurt, man.

Because you my nigga, I just took the shirt off my back and gave it to you while it raining, and you out here playing tough. You that same nigga that got beat up over here and you call, hey, where these niggas that jumping me come ride with me, bro? Well, who jumping on you?

Oh, such and such them. All you hear about them niggas don't got spent. You like, well, what the hell's the matter with them? You know what I mean? You don't even know the job real love. Nigga, I snitched his mother going in my hotel, police, everything. Ain't no trial. Ain't none of that.

Straight up. I ain't never took no cooperation deal. I was cooperating and working with these people, man. Never.

If you say one thing to the streets, what would it be?

Each one teach one, man. It's your life. It ain't bank life. it ain't her life, it ain't his life. It's your life. Everything you go through is what you choose to go through. Whatever you embrace is what you choose to embrace. We bring trauma and pain on ourselves. Live for you, go get a job. And I say that with my heart. Because if I knew what I know now, I'd never been in this predicament.

People think I want to be famous. This is the hardest shit ever. Because anytime you slap shit out of somebody, I got reared by Becky Timsie. And people trying to sue me and get me locked up. You feel me?

It's so much come with this shit, bro. Facts. Man, living a low-key life is way better than living a famous life.

If you could say one thing to Thug, what would it be?

Shake back, keep going. Nigga, it's your life, nigga. You the GOAT, nigga. God created you, nigga. Focus, nigga. Get back to that Thug, nigga. Let us see happiness in your eyes, nigga. You know what I mean? Get out there and make that good music. We still gonna ride to it. Nobody gonna never stop me from playing thug.

What you think that got him in that space that you see him in?

He broken.

From what?

Being cut off. Some people don't cut him off, they hurt him. People ain't embracing him how they used to embrace him because they don't want their name to be tied to, oh you working with Shawty here snitch. Nah, nah, look. So you don't think before, you think this just happened before all, after all the bullshit or when he came home he was like that?

So yeah, yeah I go to when Thug came home he dropped money on money. These fuck niggas telling him I gotta be the one calling them friends. His confidence was too fucking high, my nigga. His confidence was too high. So what life is, what you put out into the universe is what you're gonna receive.

Doug put all this bullshit out when he got out. Instead of coming out showing maturity.

But could he could have put the bullshit out because he was broken at that time too? He didn't have to. But he could have been masking though. Like I'm just playing dumb. He could have been masking right in that moment. Like what he was saying in the interview, like bro,

like my brothers crossed me out basically. So he could have been masking.

He don't cross people out, Bank. He don't cross people out. Think about the people you crossed out. That's like me, my nigga, that's why I say what I say and talk how I talk. I ain't gonna play a victim, I know what I done did.

Yeah.

Dog, you can't play a victim, you know what you did. But let me tell you this, my nigga, when you came home, you put that nigga, that shit out there. These niggas rats, these niggas telling. don't mess with Gunna. This what you did. If you never did that, the world had already said, Thug is a nigga.

All you had to do is come out and just make music and let that shit be, cause it spoke for itself. But instead you put that energy out there and guess what you did? You pushed away all the genuine love

that people had for you, cause people didn't want to see you go through that. Everyday watching Thug in court, he gave people hope. He kept his head up, he kept his spirit up. No matter what, he didn't start looking like he looking till he just got out. He looked more like he's supposed to look in trial now

than he did then. Yeah, I agree with that. If he never did what he did, Thug could have been like, you know, hey man, I squad, did what he should have did when he came home. Squatch the beef, got in a situation with Gunna. Hey man, it ain't no hard feeling,

I love you man, you know what I mean? I'm gonna let you do your own thing. You know what I mean? We still could work, if I choose to want to work, or whatever the case is, you know, you're still under the label,

cause you're getting paid for them, to be with Lucci. And thought I came home, squad to be with Gunna and Lucci. It didn't matter what else he had. But ego though. You know, ego play a part in a lot of that shit. Seeing a nigga acting like you don't give a fuck and I feel like you wrong with me. I'm just speaking from what he said.

Like, I'm not speaking from what I, cause I'm asking these same nigga and you feel like, you know what I'm saying? So, that was the case. Let me tell you something, my nigga. People like, what is it? You so forgiving, like you forgive a thug. It's like, I really know what's going on. You feel me? So, it's like, thug did wrong to me, I did wrong to thug. I'm not gonna see him play a victim, you feel what I'm saying? I understand this. That's why I always say, you know, like, hey, that's my nigga, I love him. I let it be known, no matter what, I love him.

Stop speaking on him. If you somebody that's speaking bad on thug, I might slap the shit out of you. You feel what I'm saying? Because you don't know what he dealing with. You feel me? Everybody ain't better tested like that. Like, you know, it take a lot to send in jail, my nigga. Especially for a nigga that living that high luxury life.

Boy, you gonna send in jail, boy, that shit, boy, it take you down, boy. So, you know, like I said, but Thug did it when he started saying, gonna rat. Then you done made a song to my all of us snitches, you home and I told you before I did I'm bringing you home so if I told you before and then did why you still feel like you know we're the rat? Why?

You know how many other other niggas on that case kind of said thank you bitch I love you for life. You know how many people did that? He feel like that too. You know what I did for thugs that ain't been exposed? I was, that's why the police took my phones. They wanted what I had in my phone. I was sneaking recording the state.

I had my phone recording their ass and everything. But guess what I didn't do? I didn't give it to Brian Steele and them either. I had insurance to protect myself. Cause at the end of the day, nobody don't care about me. Oh, you had their interrogation video. Yeah, you know what I mean?

I sit in that motherfucking room, phone recording, and I'm saying what I'm saying, they saying what they saying, and I know this is going to help.

Damn.

But so, you know everything I was doing to secure it.

Man.

And secured it. It's time to move past that shit though, Woody. Yeah, man. Time to move past everything because if not, it's like, bro, resentment and anger only hurts you. It don't hurt nobody else. Like, nobody elseucha and work with Lucha and do all this shit with Lucha. You feel what I'm saying?

That hurt your feelings?

Yeah, because you could have did that with Gunda. I don't want it done to me. It would have seemed more sincere if you did it with Gunda. It's been bloodshed, not saying between you and Lucha. You feel what I'm saying? Like I said, this is what make you look bad. You willing to forgive somebody that was trying to hurt you

and that you were trying to hurt, but you not trying to forgive somebody that didn't know any better, that took a plea, gunner don't go to jail. Gunner not with all this shit.

So do you think if, let's say hypothetically, if goddamn, all right, y'all came home and got them.

We came home. Yeah, not hypothetically. Once y'all came home, y'all just called me, which y'all couldn't do that, but it was like, bro, we finna play this shit, like it was all a game. Where would YSL be right now?

If niggas be like, shit, bro, we all family. We back at home. Yeah look at this right man. What best friend, what type of friend they had? One that been through shit with you right? Yeah. We all made bad decisions. What we learned from. Yeah. We all went through that, we learned. We know what and what not they do no more. Yeah. So why go choose new friends that ain't never been through nothing with you? Yeah. Because you know how to deal with a relationship got down everybody showed how much they love him nigga was willing to sit in jail for thought you

heard slime like shawty you heard moon to slow everybody even though we all know each other I was a piece of shit but all of our loyalty to Thug was what it was. Just be honest my nigga. So if Thug come home and not do what he did, YSL would have been bigger. Y'all too much snitches and rats. You feel what I'm saying? That's not the case. This is not the situation where like with 6ix9ine's situation, where all his codefendants went to prison.

The boys who did go to prison in this case, they went to prison because the state had them dead to the wrong for what they did.

Oh, really?

That wasn't the Rico. Them boys popped somebody, allegedly, for the ones who gonna try to twist this up. They popped somebody and got caught for popping them and they say okay well since y'all this right here we just gonna put y'all on this RICO but that's how it was they did it separately. So they all beat the RICO too but they got a lot charged with what they. Yeah so like for instance you had people sent in jail for aggravated assaults compared on some stupid shit that they just doing while they was outside.

YSL was never a game that's what my whole argument to the prosecutors. A gang has structures, it has leadership, it has roles.

This is a whole bunch of motherfuckers doing whatever they want to do. Yeah.

Thug is a successful man. They made it out of his environment. And everybody said, oh, I'm gonna run behind his bandwagon. So this is what it was first about How the hell is this a game if it's no loyalty being here amongst each other. Mm-hmm We are talking about slamming and stealing and rubbing and killing each other So how we again we can't even trust each other facts

You feel me so, you know, like I say man It's a process that we went through we overcame God is so good. You know, we learned it from it. You know, Thug gonna shake back one of these days. I hope, and I pray for him. I pray for him. I pray for Slug. I pray for everybody. Because Thug ain't the only one on this case. See, I've watched this. What a lot of people did, they just made it You had a little 17-year-old, 18-year-old little bruh, young man had a life sentence already. If he got life, why y'all dragging him in this trial? You know what I'm saying?

And then for those who went to jail, they don't even exist. So, you know, it's a lesson learned. Man, we can do this shit all night, wouldn't it? I think, man, once again, bro, I'm gonna tell you, bro, the path you're on, bro, I definitely take my hat off to that and give you much praise and respect.

I think that's commendable, bro. Stay on that, man. But one thing about it, where we come from, the shit that we know, the trauma that we been through, that shit easy to get back in that mode, bro. So a nigga gotta goddamn just continue to pray and try to move yourself far away from that shit as possible, dog, because you can even hear in your conversation, when you tell a nigga,

pull up, like you just said, invite the energy. You can't invite that energy, bro.

You can't even invite it to yourself.

But I want people to, I say that because I want people to know I'm human. So when I talk with good sense, I don't want people to underestimate my ability to push that button. That's why I say that. So my thing is, yeah, because my life is important and I want people to understand that my family matter to me

just like y'all family should matter. Again, with Thug, my nigga, listen bro, it's no bad blood. If me and Thug ain't, you know, it'll be a time for that. If we don't, then it ain't meant. Whatever happened in life is already written. But what we ain't gonna do, bro, we ain't gonna sit right here and pretend like shit is what it ain't.

And like, for example, it feels so much better to walk away from bullshit and everything than engage in my nigga. But I been out two years, I told my brother, man, I don't know to be happy or be mad as fuck, bro. I ain't never went that long without doing that to nobody.

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