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What an appropriate juxtaposition there. The FC files, the Buffalo Public Schools.

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Release the Buffalo files. It literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the f***ing lawyers.

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What?

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You, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools, are intentionally obstructing investigations into the abduction of children.

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Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart.

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Yeah, get ready for round two.

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Hi everyone, welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast, AKA the Absolutely Foul Podcast. We are joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick, the fat electrician, Rich, Angry Cops, and myself, Donut Operator.

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Thank you for joining.

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Donut, thank you for having us.

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Thanks, Cody. Brandon is busy with his election right now.

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And I step in, you know.

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This is our last podcast with normal civilian Brandon Herrera probably.

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Oh no, we've got a long ways to go.

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I don't believe you.

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No. Well, I mean, at the bare minimum, January.

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In district 23,

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Dog Brandon.

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All right, we can't do that.

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We can't.

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Cut that part.

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No, keep that.

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No, we can't do that. No, we cannot. Two seconds. Two seconds into this.

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We just bleep all of what you said and then like, you can't do that.

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I like that.

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It's true.

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Today we have an update because in the last couple of weeks, what was released, Mr. Rich? Oh, the findings of the law, not law enforcement, but the, oh geez, what's it called? Investigation. Yeah, I know the investigation, but the investigation was run by whom?

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Law firm.

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Independent investigator. Yeah, an independent investigator hired by the Buffalo Public School System. And this, how dare you, first of all, my mind's all erased. I have so many things that I wanna go over

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that I can't think clearly. Basically, long and the short of it is, I came on this podcast and wept like a bitch for a couple minutes and then told everybody how bad the Buffalo public school systems were, and then the news ridiculed me and said, look at this idiot talking about something that we should focus on but we'll choose not to focus on. Look at this guy, and they have alcoholic beverages on the table and he burped once. We should

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ignore the allegations he's made as an SVU detective about the s*** improprieties

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that are happening with our children and our public school systems.

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Right? He already sounds like he's going to be president.

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So...

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God no, never.

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District 23 needs a president. And that man is Brandon Herrera. So we, you know, obviously the autistic army pushes back, rightfully so, and says, hey, how about you focus on the facts that this guy's bringing up, to which gets a lot of eyeballs on it, to which changes the information that came out about the most egregious incident that I talked about, which was the attempted abduction of two children at a Buffalo public

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school that was mishandled by the Buffalo Public School system, which we'll get into as we discuss the findings of this investigation. And then, well, yeah, that led to the investigation from the Buffalo Public Schools via this law firm that they hired to look into things, which, if I'm not mistaken, I know they talked to me a couple of times. I know they talked to Nick. I'm not sure if you gave them the binder or –

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I did. if I'm not mistaken, I know they talked to me a couple of times, I know they talked to Nick, I'm not sure if you gave him the binder or,

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gave him the binder.

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Made a copy of it.

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Which was pretty substantial, and now, just a little over a week ago, they came out with their findings from the investigation.

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Real quick, if we ever did wanna like, not to interrupt too early, but if we ever did want to do a fundraiser to, uh, you know, get independent lawyers or something on this, if you did as merch signed copies of the binder and everything that was in it, you know, you could raise some money doing that. This is true. Have all the unsubbed podcast sign a copy of all of

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your findings in the binder. It's like sponsored Epstein files. I like it. Epstein files brought to you by Pepsi, except

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hopefully we actually hold some people accountable in this I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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and then just combing through it and like, oh, oh, oh, nothing is going to happen. And then when you start really digging deep into it, you see all the problems.

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They're like.

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So what did they say? We've investigated ourselves and found, no, no wrongdoing.

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It was not that bad. He was. I mean, he can only go so hard, but I mean, basically the gist of the entire thing is the podcast made this allegation. The podcast was correct for like 90% of it. And then when we got to the actual case, like the probably the biggest allegation, which was the deleting of the footage, they had like a three page, very complicated,

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elaborate excuse for how it was a failure of their systems

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and nobody's actual fault.

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So did they or didn't they?

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I had to read it four times to kind of understand

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what the fuck they were saying.

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They're trying to say that no individual person actually hit delete? Correct.

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Okay.

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And it goes to that level of even the kidnapping. Well, we can't confirm this story and it's just, he said, she said, and you have then nothing done with it. It's like, oh, well, sorry, we tried. Couldn't confirm it. Oh, we did our job.

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And that was even, wasn't it for the kidnapping too? So I'll say for most of it, right? For most of the things where they say we can't confirm it, it's them, I feel, being honest, where they say, we couldn't get any information regarding this because of A, B, or C, and I'll tell you what those things are. And so we couldn't confirm that, but we also couldn't deny any of

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that. And I'll give you an example. So for one of the cases that I brought up where a young woman got f***ed by a young man. They're both students in a school, I believe it was in Northern Buffalo. And the young girl told the principal, the principal did her own investigation, didn't report it, which is a mandated report,

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or you have to. And then a year later, one of the girl, either the girl or one of the girl's friends stated, hey, this happened to so-and-so or me, I forget. And then it was an interview, or investigated by district attorney's office

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and Buffalo police and the district attorney, the assistant district attorney in charge of that case said a subpoena to the school principal and the school principal said, I'm not going to reply to the subpoena. I will not come in. I did my own investigation. I found it unfounded. I'm not coming in for this. So...

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I didn't know you could just choose to do that.

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Well, there you go.

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You know, but you know, if you have a district attorney that's not going to do anything, you can do whatever you want to do. And that's one of the issues, right, is for that specific case, one, the Buffalo Police Department could not give out any information because it is a case that involves juveniles. So you're limited, and I see where they're limited, in the information that you can give out regarding juveniles to FOIA requests or Freedom of Information Act or FOIL, Freedom of Information Legislation. They're limited.

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But the District attorney's office, and this is kind of par for the course for all of the district attorneys, just about involvement in this, except for the abduction case, would not assist the law firm in its investigation.

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So specifically for that case that I just brought up with the young girl being assaulted in the school by the pool and the principal getting a subpoena, I know for a fact that that principal's letter is in the file, the investigatory file, along with a subpoena by the assistant district attorney, but the district attorney's office will not supply that information to the investigative body, that law firm. Why? God fucking knows.

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Because it makes them look bad?

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Because it, well, because it probably does make the district attorney look as though, hey, my legal authority, I will not choose to enforce that legal authority that I was voted in for when it comes to the sexual assault or the misrepresentation under reporting the sexual assault of a child, or specifically the I'm not going to follow the law and answer your subpoena, which is insane. If you are the district attorney of an area and I'm some turd and you say, here's a subpoena, to me you have to show up. And I go, fuck you, I'm's a subpoena. To me, you have to show up.

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And I go, fuck you, I'm not gonna do it. And then you sit there with your thumb in your ass and go, well, I guess I'm not gonna do anything. Everybody else now goes, oh, sweet, this guy's not gonna do anything. Which is exactly what I believe happened

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with the Buffalo Public Schools legislative body, not legislative body, but their judicial body, their legal representation. They said, oh, on many occasions, not just that one, they're not gonna do anything, so we don't have to do anything.

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We don't have to show up when they say like that.

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And part of the investigation was that the legal representatives for the school were investigated by this law firm and it's two lawyers talking to one another. So Jesus Christ, like could you, it's two rats fighting over a dead corpse.

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Like what are we talking, I could give a shit. So anyway, it's two peas in a pod. And unfortunately that dead corpse is the corpse of a child. So what the investigation found was that there wasn't a good check-the-box verification system for subpoenas being sent to the school or individuals or the legal representatives for the school and that that's where this not answering subpoenas issue comes forward. And what they basically say in the investigation is that for that incident, and I believe others, the school legal representatives aren't given a subpoena.

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The MOP for the schools is that if you are a person given a subpoena, it is your responsibility to then send that subpoena to the legal representation of the schools. And then both of you talk about it or go through some sort of bric-a-brac. And then you go over to the DA's office with representation about what you can talk about, what you're protected from talking about, etc.

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like what what's the big picture looking like right now? Like where are we at? Like what's the findings of the entire investigation? Like the nuts and bolts of it? So this is what's frustrating, right? The entire investigation is like the final paragraph and it's the investigatory body, that law firm. They say, we have found systemic problems

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in the Buffalo Public Schools reporting policies and other policies. Big word here, systemic in the system, brought apart by the system. But we find no individual responsible for any of the actions to include, get ready for this, the people in charge of the system that run the system, that make the rules and enforce the system, the Buffalo Public School.

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Thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold anyone accountable.

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Right, if only we could hold the people accountable that made the rules that kept us here in this stagnant place, but we can't because it's not their fault, which is the whole thing that made me really frustrated was there's a problem.

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But they gave notes.

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What's that?

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They did say, but we recommended new things.

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Oh, we recommended some changes, which I'm okay with.

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That was it.

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You want to recommend some changes? That's cool. Some of them were blacked out because it's like security policies when it comes to the schools, which I understand. Hey, this is me and you talking about security for schools. That conversation does not need to be public.

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Let's not tell the criminals how to circumvent, yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, which is, I mean, do you even need to tell the criminals how to circumvent the system? You could just not follow subpoenas by the district attorney's office and then break into a school and do whatever you want because it's a systemic problem and we haven't changed the system yet and we're not holding anybody accountable in charge of the system. So.

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So what do we do from here? Like what's the, is there any recourse here or is it just kind of like where this is where we're at? Right. That it's, this is, this is. We were discussing this earlier. Bear me out. This is where we're at. Now before you. Do we have to censor what? No, no, but it's your fault.

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I was going to say, like, I saw you, like, I saw a bunch of wood piled up in the backyard. I didn't know if we were building a key.

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No. So you know how because of the Tony thing, it's become like common knowledge on the Internet that Congress has like a slush fund for settling assault allegations, which is crazy, which is crazy, right? Like for those who didn't follow, I basically like accidentally kicked off

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Me Too DC edition.

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Yeah.

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Where there is legitimately a slush fund that Congress has with millions of dollars for dealing with allegations of and propriety.

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Which is fucking-

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Where does the money come from?

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I'm still trying to determine whether or not it's taxpayer or donor funded. Either way is bad. Wild, Yeah. Yeah, it's not like, yeah, no, this is just a general fund that's set aside knowing the fact that, you know, I'm sure people are accused of things they haven't done, but also just kind of the underlying assumption is, oh,

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at some point. So we'll just, we'll keep a pool going for whenever that comes up. It's not a one-off where it's like, oh, we'll build this from a case-to-case basis. Like, oh shit, John, who's very innocent guy, he got hit with this, hey let's raise some money. This is, ah, well just, this is gonna

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happen a lot. We'll have a well built for that, which is wild to do. Well that got me thinking about slush funds and unsubs been threatened to have been sued multiple times, not for assault allegations, but for other things, mostly talking shit on the internet, taxpayer funded settlements.

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Jesus.

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Yeah, that's disgusting. How much am I just for reference? It's like millions. 10 to 15 million.

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Yeah in and it varies on a year-to-year basis, but apparently in 2017, it was revealed that at least $300,000 in public funds had been used to settle harassment claims against congressional offices. Tony Gonzalez is looking at that like we got above those numbers up. Most of rookie numbers. He's not going to worry about it much longer.

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Anal.

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Anyways, that got me thinking UNSUB should just have a slush fund for next time we get threatened to get sued for, like, I don't know, calling out a school district or ruining a politician's career, because we're probably going to get sued at some point. We've had multiple threats already. I agree. Well, not only that, but also the- We doubled down on them. Yeah, well, what's funny is that these, like the theater, like the theater that threatened to sue us

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what they're used to dealing with. Can we say this now? Can we talk about this now?

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We can't talk about it yet, but like a theater. Okay, so we'll blank that out. But there was a theater that we had an issue with that is used to bullying starving artists and and you know musicians and whatever and They didn't realize like oh every person on that stage is independently pretty well off. We can't be bullied like that They're like, oh, well, we're gonna sue you and we're like fucking bring it we're bored

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They got a hold of our agent and our agent is like if you guys don't do XYZ

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They're gonna involve lawyers and sue you. And our official response was LOL, send it.

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Was that the actual response?

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Yes.

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Hell yeah.

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Dude, if I was working on their end and I got that as a response, I'd be like, oh.

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They said, LOL, send it. Could you imagine that like in any other scenario?

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Like America has becrested our surrender.

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Tell them LOL, LOL, surrender. Arrgh. like in any other scenario like America is we crested our is to read them to them in a rare and it's a rar I mean it's any kind of battle it is reading and it's like we're gonna attack you be prepared they get a note back it's like

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dope pigeon said have fun huh all caps lol like that's well, maybe we talked You might be making a mistake and they sent back an eggplant emoji So the slush fund idea which we still should do also got me thinking Why doesn't unsub just have our own PAC money for influencing politics and like doing legal stuff? We could have come back and then we could I don't know Give give money to whoever's running for district attorney

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of Erie County in New York.

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That's what I was gonna say. Like really, and like, not even just like to prop up people. Cause like, I don't want any fucking money.

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No, I want to use it to take down bad people.

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Exactly. Use it as like, oh, it's the asshole punishment fund.

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Yes. Yes. That's what I want.

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APF. I want to raise a pact just so like, we're going to start with the DA, but it can just go from there. Like we could have a stamp of approval and it's like the fist. I just like-

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We don't have a stamp of approval. It's a mark of people we don't like.

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Go on, go on.

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It just becomes a thing.

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Like whenever we-

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Just the black X on you.

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Whenever we endorse somebody, they have an issue now. I mean, I honestly I love the idea of I think we should do it compact

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Don't know how much comes coming after me

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Comes on me guys They're on to me because we were talking is like do you just have a fun that just doesn't get taxed or touched and we build It we don't know we have to know what can you do with PAC money?

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Once you like if you like There are a lot of restrictions. Yeah, there's I know there's a lot of rules with it. A lot of people use them as an opportunity because like there are max out amounts for different campaigns and it's different state to state and whether it's federal, state, local, whatever amounts that an individual can donate to a campaign. But you can do like people use packs because there's no there's no limit on what you can give to a pack, at least in most cases. So like you can give, you know, if I could only give $5,000 to you as a candidate, well now I can give $100,000 to this pack.

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The only thing is it's illegal for the candidate to conspire with the pack. Like you can't have that direct communication like, oh yeah, donate to my pack that I run. By the way, and the candidate have complete control over the advertisement and shit like that. They've got their own board, it has to be separate. That being said, we're not collaborating with any politician. We're motherfucking them.

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What about you, though? Would we have like a...

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Is there a pack that we could use that could support you? The C-Pack? Is there a pack we some sort for Brandon. Well, I actually just got to be a pack.

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Yeah, there's gotta be a pack.

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Actually, I did start a pack at some at a certain point or I wanted to called a based pack where we were just going to go like and this is before I thought I was gonna know is I don't

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know if I like I like it, but it's so on the nose.

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He was just going to be like again, but it's so on the nose. We're just going to be like, again, like going, uh, giving the good guy support and stuff like this, but it's also much more exciting to just punish bad people. I like that.

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Oh yeah. Punisher pack.

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believe that can raise a lot. I could get dangerous really quick. We've got a

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couple of years. Do you think C pack, do you think compact could like, I don't know, change the election of Erie County district attorney's office? I feel like

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it probably could feel like we could do that ourselves. We really could.

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That could get dangerous.

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But think about how much more we could do.

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Yeah, because then it's actual change and it's going towards something and then millions

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raised really quickly. I mean how hard would it be for the city of Buffalo and the people of Erie County to like raise a little bit of money and be like, oh, I feel like that's a pretty easy win when a little race

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The thing is you'd also want to find a candidate that you like you want to find somebody who actually represents

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I don't know the thing a DA supposed to do like a good lawyer like maybe a lawyer

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I don't know rich if you won your election exclusively because some pack Relentlessly slandered your opponent on the Internet and ruined their career and then overfunded you.

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I bet you'd be on your fucking P's and Q's the entire time.

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You'd hope so. But also we're talking about their money goes

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to destroying people. They don't back anyone. They're like, this is way scarier.

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We're also talking about a a perfect storm of someone who's both a politician and a lawyer.

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So I wouldn't put a lot past him. I'll also say this, just, you know, as a man in, you know, media, I look for advertisements. And did you know that the local billboards across the 190 in the city of Buffalo, it's a major vein that goes through the city. It's only like $10,000 could get you

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about five billboards for an entire month going up and down the interstate that goes directly through the city of Buffalo.

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And the best part is whoever puts those billboards up gets to choose what's on them.

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Oh man, that's crazy.

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Huh?

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Oh, well, it's okay.

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What if it's not like the DA's dad who was super wealthy, had the judge seal a court case where he got a DUI in college so nobody knew about it forever. That would be crazy. I'm sure that's well,

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that's one out of five. All right. We got four more. Well, you know what? There's got to be a reason other than poor leadership that the assistant district attorneys with, I don't know, experience have been fleeing the district, the Erie County District Attorney's Office over the past year. I mean, it's like eight have resigned and gone somewhere else, if not more.

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In like the span of 12 months.

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I didn't really know that.

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Was it from you?

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Geez, I don't know.

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I don't know, it's almost like there are people that are tired of seeing bad people get away with murder, sometimes, literally, or child s***, or just a lack of, geez, what would you call that?

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Accountability, I think is the term.

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Yeah.

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It was crazy reading, again, the document and seeing they tried to sweep the lady flipping off on the cameras under the rug. They're like, well, she said it didn't happen.

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So we talked about that too.

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Yeah.

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And they said, we're not sure if we can confirm it. They were like, ah, it's water under the bridge.

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Yeah.

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And they tried to. I will say reading that, I did have a pretty big smile on my face because I was like, that's from my binder. That's from my binder. That's like they were I'm not shitting you screenshots of documents that I had acquired our exhibit evidence in this report where it's like and

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He kind of fucking scorches them on the shelter-in-place thing. I don't know if you remember that part So there is a portion of it I think you'll do a better job of explaining it because you kind of touched on it before. Yeah. Go ahead. So basically when the school, when the guy broke into the school and was potentially abducting children

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or trying to abduct children, the school has protocols and there's like three tiers of what you tell the school members so they know how to act accordingly. There is shelter in place, which is the lowest tier, which is like there's inclement weather,

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like a tornado outside. It basically says we're gonna lock the exterior doors, stay inside, right? And then there's an intermediary one, which I forget, and then there's lockdown. And lockdown means that there's an interior threat

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to the school, and every teacher needs to get the students in the classrooms, lock the classroom doors and take a roll call to account for all the kids.

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Intermediate one is lock out. Lock out.

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Yeah, correct. Sorry. Shelter in place. You don't lock any doors. You just stay inside. Lock out as you lock the exterior doors for like a tornado or whatever,

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but there's an exterior threat that could try to get in, but they did the

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shelter in place. They did shelter in place, which is the lowest tier one.

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And this is after been, you guys already brought up this door should be locked. The side doors.

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Oh, so yeah, the, this is, we already brought this backed up. Like I know people that have worked in that school before and people in the, uh, uh, the science museum and the doors that the individual got in, the doors from the school. There's a set of doors that the school and the museum share. So if you're in the museum,

27:54

you can access the doors to the school. If you're in the school, you can access the doors to the museum and go through the museum. Cool, interesting for learning spaces. But those doors have been broken

28:02

and have not been locked for over a year. And I believe it was over a year at that point when the gentleman or the guy broke in to go abduct, potentially abduct the kids. So those doors were unlocked, knew they were a problem, was brought up by security individuals, and then that's how the guy got into the school. Locked down or not, he still would have gotten in because those school doors

28:25

were unsecured and had been unsecured for a year over.

28:29

Right, but had they called lockdown, the teachers would have known to get the kids into classrooms and lock the doors.

28:35

Correct.

28:36

So I had broke that in the original video saying they called shelter in place, not lockdown, which is insane. And then I had acquired the letter they sent home to parents, which said that they went into shelter in place, which downplays the entire event to the parents.

28:53

And then in the thing, they're like, no, we talked to the leadership. They said they did lockdown, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, which we find hard to believe because this letter that we acquired from me clearly says that you told the parents

29:07

that you went into shelter in place. And then there was like, I had three other pieces of evidence that showed that they went into shelter in place. And it was like, it literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers.

29:18

That was my interpretation of it, at least when I read it. But they were trying to tell the lawyer. Oh, there was no, no, no. There was a miscommunication. We went into lockdown and even the lawyer like couldn't even deny. He's like, well then why did you tell all the parents that you went into shelter in place? He's like, I interviewed like other people that also were adamant that it was shelter in

29:37

place, not locked down. Like it was insane. Did you kill a guy? I'm gonna interview you about if you killed a guy. Oh, he says he didn't do it. Damn, it's almost like you're the Buffalo Public Schools. And I'm like, did you this up? And you're like, no.

29:52

And I go, okay.

29:53

Well, I've got a letter where you said you killed that guy.

29:55

I have a letter where you said you did it.

29:58

What?

29:59

Water under the bridge. Right. The dad didn't know. Children of Blue Bridge. Right. He was... I found out from the video that my kids were potentially abducted. Oh shit. He found out from us?

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Basically the podcast is what got him to get involved and via either the podcast and his involvement, I forget which, but there was two months, I think you said, after the date? I thought it was like six. I thought it was six is when I was like like I found out my kid was interacted with this Period either way months months after the fact that the

30:33

The attempted abduction happened imagine finding out that your kids almost got abducted From a fucking from strangers on the amass

30:44

Yeah, yeah, I that really, yeah. Guys that belch on the internet.

30:48

Oh yeah, foul people that, you know, call out shitty.

30:52

Raising money for autism, how dare we?

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It's wild.

30:56

Brandon, what kind of shirt is that?

30:58

I'm glad you asked, Eli.

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This is a poncho.

31:01

Brandon and I actually wear poncho so much, we constantly end up wearing the same nice poncho shirt.

31:06

Good thing nobody's ever pointed that out before.

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Now if you guys have ever seen one of our live shows or this podcast in general

31:13

You'll see Brandon and I wearing these incredibly comfortable great-looking shirts all the time.

31:17

Finn, pull it up with pictures. They're literally always wearing the same shirt.

31:22

I got turned on a poncho like a year ago, been wearing them ever since. Personally prefer, I think this is the Western because it's got the pearl snaps, because it's hot in Texas and I like something breathable.

31:32

Here's the thing I find really cool. Brandon, do the glasses trick.

31:35

So ponchos have this neat little thing in the pocket

31:40

No, the other one. Be more specific. I don't give a shit about that. All right. Watch everyone.

31:45

So if you got fat fingers and you smudge your glasses all the time, the bottom of the shirt actually acts. It has like a microfiber so you can clean your glasses.

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I make him clean my phones.

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He does.

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I like the hidden little pocket on the breast.

31:59

Wait, what?

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Right over here.

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Got a little zipper pocket. I didn't even know about that one. Is that where you hold Cody's heart?

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And his drugs.

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32:16

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Like that, they're reading that and going through it. And then again, nothing happens at the end of the day is when we all discuss like, Hey, we should probably bring this up again. Cause nothing's going to change.

32:55

Okay.

32:56

Did you understand what the fuck they were trying to say in like the three pages where they articulate why the video got deleted or how it was misplaced. I had to read it three times and I'm gonna be honest, I still don't completely understand what the fuck they're trying to say. So what it looked like to me is it was legal jargon gobbledygook for nobody's taking accountability but because nobody's taking accountability we don't have a finger to point, right? And I'll tell you this because when I read it, they were saying, okay, the school's point of view from

33:28

this, and this is the legal, and we're going to get into this because there's an obstruction portion of this, which is huge, that if anybody gets anything out of this, the obstruction portion of this story is massive. So the school's complaint to the district attorney's office when they requested video of it was that the district attorney's request was too vague and that the district attorney's request, the ADA that had the case was, we need all video camera footage regarding this

34:00

incident, right? So while this investigation happens of the law firm looking into the school about this, the video footage that was like not totally sent over to the district attorney's office, their findings was-

34:15

What do you mean not totally sent over?

34:17

So think a little refresher. The reason why there was an issue with the one parent not knowing that their child was involved. So originally it came out as one potential abduction. And then after our interview and media attention, it came out that there was a second child

34:37

that was attempted to be abducted during this. And that second child's family was not told about it for a while. why we brought up the dad that found out his kid was not abducted until you know 60 days or six months later. And one of the issues with that, the main cause of that, was that the district attorney's office didn't have all of the video from the schools after they requested all the video from that incident. And it was only when somebody from the schools had good intentions and had previously recorded

35:11

a portion from a specific video camera in the school showing the second child was being abducted, not just the first, but that there was a second involved, and then sent that to the district attorney's office, that then the district attorney reviewed that footage and said, oh my God, there's a second kid involved.

35:26

So exactly what you said happened.

35:28

Pretty much.

35:30

Okay, so it's inexcusable that months after me, as a parent, coming into the school, coming to the school at night, coming to the school during the day, coming to the school every day, that I did not know that my son is one of the first persons

35:44

that this person encountered. Months.

35:47

Months.

35:48

And he's there apparently every day, and he's like, yo, what the fuck?

35:52

So the investigation from the lawyer's office, the legal team, they find out that, and this is their response, is that the district attorney's request for video evidence of the entire incident was so vague that people who reviewed the video footage were like, oh,

36:11

there's three cameras down this hallway, we'll give you one of the cameras. Even if all three of the video cameras recorded the incident at different angles and perhaps different times will only give you one.

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36:25

Is there a word for like when you want everything pertaining to something or like all, there's a word all.

36:35

Yeah. Involving the incident, we would like all video involving the incident. I'm sorry, was that too vague?

36:41

All the footage is wild. We're like, oh, here, all foot, there's three cameras of this situation. We will provide all three, not like, well, we didn't know you wanted all three angles.

36:51

That's a lot. Forgive me for a moment. I'm gonna spitball for a sec. If there is a break-in into a school and a child is nearly abducted by the person and that person assaults school staff. And then the district attorney's office, not the police, the district attorney's office

37:06

says give me all the video of this incident. To me, a reasonable person, I would be like, I want every camera from 10 minutes before this guy's on our soil to an hour after all the police leave and we're gonna give them all of those gigabytes of data.

37:26

That sounds like all.

37:27

That sounds like all.

37:29

Yeah. I'm not gonna delete any. I'm going into this like, they asked for one thing, I'm gonna give them everything.

37:34

I'm definitely not the person to pick and choose

37:37

what is good evidence.

37:38

How the fuck is all too vague?

37:39

I don't understand. I don't get it.

37:44

I think it's specific. It's specific. I would like all of your camera footage from this time to that time. If I hold this up and Brandon asks me, how much of that did you drink, Nick?

37:55

And I say all of it.

37:57

You're being too vague.

37:58

The can's empty, dickheads. What are we talking about?

38:04

Especially for a crime where it is,

38:12

We need to prove that we did everything possible here.

38:15

I mean, it's not even that like the angle's not very good. You left out a whole ass kid.

38:19

You're not qualified to homeschool your kids. You need to send them to me because I'm a professional. Also, I don't know what the word all means. What are we talking about?

38:29

Also, I forgot to mention your child was abducted.

38:32

Also that.

38:33

Yeah.

38:34

Sorry about that, bro.

38:35

So the school is-

38:36

Oh, you wanted me to be accountable for all the kids?

38:38

Oh.

38:39

All, are you sure? That's a great line to bring up. Hey, are you responsible for all the kids? Cause what are you, are you concerned? Or do you not know what all means when it comes to children?

38:49

It seems so.

38:50

One of the parents is warned.

38:51

That's all of them.

38:52

That's not you.

38:54

The kids should have told you what the fuck.

38:56

Which they try to blame the kids.

39:00

they actually tried to blame the kids themselves? We thought the parents would talk or the children would say

39:05

something. That was like one of the statements.

39:08

I think that's like, I forget what that was about. But still sticking on the video thing. So their legal, the legal team looking into it, their findings were, hey, there's not like a specific MOP for evidence collection or video collection, manual of procedures, specifically written down on how they're supposed to retrieve it

39:38

and give it to the Buffalo Police Department or the District Attorney's Office. And because that request was vague, they weren't really sure how to do all of it or whatever, right? So that's one of the things. And we've kind of hit on how ridiculous that is. The other thing, which is massive here, and this is what I want people to really focus on, is the obstruction, is they say,

40:00

we did not find any obstruction from the Buffalo Public Schools or their legal representatives during this investigation. Now here's an important piece of information here that they quote and they bring up in this, well in the investigation. And that is, the investigating attorneys say, here is a quote from an email from the district attorney's office, quote, the assistant district attorney to the legal team representing the school of Buffalo City Schools,

40:34

your lack of transparency and hiding behind FERPA, which I'll get into in a second, is, and your inability to share requested subpoenaed evidence with us is obstructing our investigation.

40:51

Well, that's an interesting choice of words.

40:52

Which, and this is where I go nuts, this is where I go nuts, which the attorneys looking into the investigation, the investigating body says, although obstruction is a word commonly used in legal terms for Preventing and an arrestable offense for preventing or obstructing an investigation the district attorney's office the lawyers

41:13

Saying you're obstructing my investigation That's not actually Obstruction that's just like they're using the term. They're not they don't actually mean the word

41:23

They don't mean what they said they mean.

41:25

Hey dude, a hundred percent. And you can read it for yourself. I have it. I shit you not. I wrote down the page.

41:31

Also real quick. I just love the fact that like Eli knew to turn down your mic to the degree that you'd be shouting into it. But I saw you peaking my mic. I was like, we're gonna- Which is very funny. Connor, what are you doing? I'm fuming, brother.

41:45

You fuming okay?

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Dude, let me pass it. It's also got a fidget movement on it.

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The board urges all community members to review it with an open mind and commitment to constructive dialogue, focusing on forward-looking recommendations rather than seeking to assign blame. Page 37 and 39 of the report,

43:33

which if you open it, there's a PDF document, I hope that there's a link somewhere. Page 37 states in the mid-paragraph that the school's legal team is obstructing, quote, obstructs investigation from the DA's office. And on page 39, the top paragraph states,

43:54

the DA's office found it obstructive, but we don't find it as obstruction to the investigation in like a legal definition arrestable form, which makes zero sense.

44:09

There are good attorneys in this on in this world, but half of them should be flogged publicly.

44:16

They also go on to state that the video deletion of the kidnapping is okay is quote neglectful, but that nobody is in nobody's nobody is at fault.

44:27

That's the thing, they just, no one's at fault. And we were discussing it. It's just no one's held accountable. They're like, well, okay, well, are you happy with that? Hey, make sure any particular findings must not translate into harassment, threats,

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or intimidation directed at anyone. The path forward requires collaboration,

44:45

not division, as we work to create the safest possible environment. Do your job or I'll make sure you get fired.

44:52

Yeah. Oh, bingo. Well, here's the thing that pisses me off is like this idea that, okay, yes, a failure did happen, but nobody failed. It's like, okay, well, I'm sorry, but I think those two sentences are completely incompatible with each other. If a failure had occurred with your organization that allowed something bad to happen, cool, let's fix it, right? But to be able to say that nobody failed at anything, there's no one individual actually didn't do their job.

45:21

Like, well, that doesn't make any fucking sense, frankly. We did the math for what was the percentage .03 reported as... Oh, they talk about that?

45:31

They talk about that in the investigation. Okay, never mind. We can't talk about that. We can't talk about it yet.

45:36

Math doesn't math.

45:37

We can't talk about it yet. I of but we have to FOIA request it. What would you want to see done now or because of this what's the disappointment you're like okay this needs to happen. So here's the disappointment right and a lot of it comes to that specific incident because it was such a good a horrible incident but such a good representation of how the Buffalo school systems does do not work with the district attorney's office at the Buffalo Police Department, right?

46:05

And that is that their investigating body Uncovered and this is in that those pages that 36 37 to like 41 or 42, you know, and they're wide-spaced It's not gonna take you an hour to read. It's gonna take you five ten minutes The investigating body writes in their findings, the district attorney's office is emailing the legal team

46:30

representing the city of Buffalo Public Schools, stating you are intentionally misinterpreting law so that you can defeat an investigation and obstruct an investigation into the abduction of children. That is a fact.

46:49

That is 100% a fact. If anybody can get anything out of this, 100% fact is that the investigation found the district attorney's office emailed stating, you the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools

47:05

are intentionally misrepresenting legal doctrine and obstructing investigations into the abduction of children. Full stop. That is a fact in the investigation. If you are a parent of any child in that school,

47:23

if you are a taxpayer in the city of Buffalo, the fact that a legal team in the city school system is intentionally via the district attorney's office obstructing investigations into the welfare of your children, I don't know how you're not lighting that place on fire.

47:42

Metaphorically.

47:48

In Minecraft.

47:49

There we go.

47:53

Cause I mean, as a future parent,

47:55

it's one of the most terrifying things probably.

47:57

My kid's never going to go to a Buffalo public school, but there are kids that don't have the option. This is where I get passionate about. I'm sorry for yelling, but I am. No yelling. Pisses me off. So I'm sorry if I'm yelling, but I am. No, yell. It pisses me off.

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48:06

So I'm never going to send my kid to a city of Buffalo, Buffalo public school, fucking ever, because they're so corrupt and horrible. It's disgusting. Case in point for what I just said about the investigation.

48:20

I'm not, you are. All those families that don't have an option to send their kids to public school, all those families that are working two jobs, that are trying to make ends meet, where you don't have a choice, you have to send them to public school, that's it. You're fucked. Unless.

48:34

If you don't do anything.

48:35

Yep.

48:35

If you don't do anything.

48:37

So if this is the time, if this is the moment where you're gonna ignore all the evidence on the table and do absolutely nothing.

48:50

Sounds like at the very least the DA needs to get shit canned.

48:54

When's he up for election again?

48:55

Three years?

48:56

No, it's sooner, it's on my phone. It's on my calendar.

48:59

I knew Nick would keep a tally.

49:02

Yeah, we're looking at to see if anything changes. What do you do, what would you recommend for individuals? Because this is, we found out it's way bigger than just Buffalo. Oh yeah. During our time it was like holy sh** this is not just in Buffalo. Turns out incompetent government employees are everywhere. Yeah, if you're going to a public school. Light me on fire. And that's what's crazy about it. It's fucking terrifying be like oh this is the best option we have. No. You can start making

49:31

changes at a local level and holding people accountable when you get a piece of paper it's like ah dude they tried. Yeah. The changes that need to happen in in my mind, are all the female friends and representatives in the Buffalo Public School System, those people that are on the board, that hitched their ponies to the superintendent that recently retired and had that school named after her, which is disgusting. What a horrible self-bloviated pat on the back that is that you'll allow all this to happen and then get an award by having a school auditorium named after

50:10

you get you fat idiot. Anywho, anybody that hits their ponies and it's not hard to find them. One of them is the woman that flipped off everybody on that fucking call needs to 100% be called to resign and replaced with somebody a parent or a teacher that cares about these kids because I'm telling you right now except for a handful when I mean like literally like two or three or four people on the board that I've already talked

50:37

to they all need to go including the new guy.

50:42

I can make it easy. All the the vast majority of people that like hard line supported her. Believe it or not, they're all in the same sorority in

50:51

college. Oh, there you go.

50:56

The good old gal system.

50:57

Yeah.

50:59

So there's that.

51:01

It's just.

51:04

Oh, and the other thing too is like those the AG's office needs to investigate the Buffalo Public Schools legal team or the bar does because of their inability to do their job or answer subpoenas and hide behind legal statutes like FERPA, which by the way, so I was wondering

51:24

because I didn't know that acronym.

51:26

Here's what FERPA is, it's F-E-R-P-A. I forget exactly what it stands for, but it basically, it protects students' information. So if you're a dad of a child, you can request information. If you're a stranger on the internet

51:38

that like got upset about something, and maybe the kid's involved in some sort of like criminal aspect or is the victim of some sort of criminal aspect and you like go to the school and say, I want that kid's information, the school can say no.

51:51

Right. Right.

51:53

It's privacy protection. Yes, but it's very limited. So FERPA is, I'm requesting Nick's grades, his report card, his attendance record, it's specifically for that. That's what FERPA belongs to.

52:08

Not criminal activity.

52:10

So it doesn't mean that if you go to a school and you stab a kid, and then I come up as a Buffalo police officer asking your teacher or administrator of the school, what's your name and date of birth, they can't say, I can't give you that because it's FERPA.

52:24

But what the Buffalo Public School System is doing is literally, this is not an exaggeration, is literally in cases of violence and assault, be a student on student or assault when it's a student onto a teacher or a faculty member to include people that clean up the schools, which happens, I will show up or other detectives will show up or officers will show up the schools, which happens, I will show up or other detectives will show up or officers will show up and say, hey school, we need

52:50

the name of the student that assaulted Jimmy the janitor and broke his mouth wide open and sent him to the hospital. But what's happening is the school is saying, no, we can't give you that information because it's FERPA. And what happened in the investigation with the kids being abducted is exactly that.

53:08

The Buffalo Police Department and the District Attorney's Office said, we need the information to the victims. Who was there? Who were the children that were in the classrooms that he got into?

53:18

Because he got into classrooms and like poked his head in, was just like, hey, what's going on? And then like got a...

53:22

And got... his head in was just like, hey, what's going on? And then like, out of sudden got there. They were sorry to derail a little bit. Did they ever figure out what his deal was?

53:27

Why he was there? He's schizophrenic break. He was driving himself to the hospital after making contact with officers in an adjoining town. And then he was he was two stops away from going to the hospital and decided that, well, better pop into a school Better pop into a school. Better pop into a school. And FERPAs was saved, the parents didn't get noticed because of that.

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53:50

So what the school's.

53:50

Wait, well, I would've thought that the parents would've been.

53:53

No, because it was responsible of the school. They decided not to. Then, if FERPA didn't exist for that specific reason, it's like, hey, it's a crime. This does not exist. Then the police would have reached out, hey, here, this is what happened. And none of that happened.

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Oh, pants. So what happened was, is the abduction, the attempted abduction occurs, the Buffalo police and the district attorney's office go, hey, school, give me the names of the people that were involved to include the children, specifically the children, because these are crimes that are against children. And the school said, no, we refuse to give you the names of any victims from the school that are juveniles, which is the whole point we're there to protect the kids,

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because of FERPA. So the school is intentionally using FERPA, where I'm a stranger, I can't request your report cards, or if you're tardy to class, to say, during a criminal investigation, I can refuse to give you the names of the victim children

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in this crime. Which is a horrible representation of what FERPA is.

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Is that the, well, it makes you wonder, who's the legal entity responsible for deciding what?

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No, that was their interpretation, which was wrong.

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So there's no oversight on that? They could just decide that?

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Well, that's why the district attorney's office said, you are intentionally misusing FERPA and obstructing this case, which is where this whole obstruction thing happens. So in the notebook, they actually said, or in the printout was, hey, this is where there was a failure, but the teachers claim this, so we can't really do anything. It's like they said, they tried their best, no one reported it, no at fault.

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We can just potentially build a roadmap for them so it doesn't happen again.

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Okay, everyone's good. Everyone's good.

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Oh, you see, the legal team thought that by utilizing FERPA and not giving them their names to the victims of an attempted abduction, well, they thought that that was their legal right. So it's not really obstructing. No, you're lawyering it.

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Forgive me if this is like an off-the-wall comparison, but it kind of reminds me of the people that don't understand the difference between criminal and civil when it comes to qualified immunity. I'm trying. You would have to paint me a better picture of that. Yeah, sorry, because like a lot of people think that like,

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So I'm not following.

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Yeah, a lot of people, they just say, oh, we need to end qualified immunity because cops shouldn't be able to get away with doing whatever they want. It's like, well, yeah, understandably, but they don't realize that you could still be tried for criminal actions.

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Correct. Yeah. that for people who don't know qualified immunity for police officers means that if I arrest Nick and it's a legal arrest right there is a even if it's like sloppy or bad or whatever but by the law it is legal he can't sue me civilly he could try to sue me criminally or he can try to get like a criminal investigation going on and that's cool and the reason why that happens you be like well why can't he sue you civilly The reason he can't sue me civilly is basically

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every person that got arrested could then sue a cop civilly and then you would have no police officers because we'd be out of house and home. And there's like-

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Just in legal fees. Just in legal fees. Even if you did everything right,

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you'd still have to pay a lawyer to defend you, even though you'd win. Every time that I would make an arrest, a bad guy would go, sweet, I'm going to sue him for $50,000. And I would still have to hawk up the legal fees to get an attorney to defend me. And then slowly whittling away how much money I was be able to make or support a family. And then eventually, if you make 10 arrests, imagine if you made 10 arrests a year and then each guy decided to take you to civil court for each arrest.

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There's your salary.

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There's dude, you're toast. How are you paying 10 different attorneys or 10, one single attorney 10 times over for all that time just because you're making a legal arrest?

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And it also doesn't like it with civil court, you don't actually need to be guilty of anything or have done anything wrong for somebody to take you to court that you then have to defend. Correct. So like people are like, well, yeah, no, if they're doing something wrong, then yeah, we should be doing that. It's like, well, no, like anybody can sue anybody for anything. Even then, I believe that if you're found criminally at fault for something that qualified immunity doesn't correct. That's the entire part anymore. That's the entire point. If you're a cop and you pull somebody over, you're just like, I'm deciding to bonk you on the head like that.

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Yeah, you're black. Bam.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We'll go to jail.

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I would like to say all the time, but like, there's probably some exceptions. But for the most part, you're like, yeah, you're going to be held criminally liable.

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Yes. Qualified immunity just means if I'm doing my job in the legal manner of which it's supposed to be, then you can't just sue me civilly, which would be like a way of intimidation.

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Yeah, but maybe that wasn't the best comparison, but it's what their interpretation of, is it FERPA? Their interpretation is kind of like, oh, well, we can't give any information at any time or whatever. It's like, well, no, like there's a difference between your report card and your attendance and something that's actually criminal.

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Those are like two different categories.

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Two different categories. But what they're doing is they're intentionally misinterpreting it to delay an investigation, to obstruct it, which is why the district attorney

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called them out. And that's the thing. Like it's adding such a burden on the system, because now it's not like now the cops can't just go there and get the information to do the crime investigation and take somebody to court for that. Now, if they want to get anything done, every time they have to go to court against the school district, to establish what FERPA is, or FERPA doesn't apply in this individual case, when that court case, then they can go back to the investigation, which is a year later, and then get the information. And then you're trying to do an investigation a year after the fact. Another video's gone. And here's the deal, right? The Buffalo Police Department is, we're paid,

1:01:27

we are created by and adherent to the city of Buffalo. If the Buffalo Public School System is the Buffalo Public School System, well, they are adherent to the mayor and the city of Buffalo. So if we both work under the same entity,

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why is it that I need a subpoena from Buffalo Entity 1 to Buffalo Entity 2 to get the surveillance footage when a crime is committed on Buffalo public property?

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Yeah, it's not like you're talking to like two different companies talking to each other. It's like, no, I work in marketing. I'm just trying to get an answer from accounting.

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Yeah.

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We're the same. I'm not talking to a private school. I'm talking to a city of Buffalo, Buffalo Public School.

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Why is this so difficult?

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Why is this so difficult? And the biggest thing, which is just the glowing red nose on Rudolph here, is the fact that the district attorney's office called out the legal representatives for the Buffalo Public Schools on obstruction, on intentionally misinterpreting law to prevent victims' information from being shared with the district attorney's office who represents victims of crimes. And the investigative body talks about it and says how bad that is, confirming

1:02:47

that it happened. And then goes, well, I don't even care that they go, well, it was a misinterpretation and maybe we can work through it. When the professionals that are qualified to identify obstruction of the law use the word obstruction of the law, I don't know that they mean obstruction of the law. Bro, how more clear could it be that this is like us, like it's a fucking cover up.

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And nothing's done.

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Maybe not the legal investigators covering it for them, but I mean, the schools and their legal team trying to cover up the mistakes that they've been making.

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So what are next steps?

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We need to get people fired. Fuck it.

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I'm gonna start putting names out. I don't give a shit. We can't do anything. Like that's the shitty part. Well, we can get the DA removed and stuff like that. But I mean, as far as like,

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it's one of those things where it's like, I can't do anything for you if you're not willing to do anything for yourself. Yeah. I can throw the rope down to you, but if you're not willing to grab the rope and pull yourself up, I can't save you. So, I mean, at this point it's on the parents

1:03:50

to actually go out and defend your fucking kids. And if they don't want to do it, I can only do so much for you. Everyone, it's not even the parents. It is, it's same. Your tax money is going to a corrupt legal representative a corrupt representation, legal representative for the

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I don't know, it's going to some really shitty lawyers that are protecting the schools to include the school board. The two issues are bad lawyers that your tax money is going to to protect bad Buffalo Public School school board members. And both of those people are preventing your children

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from being protected and secure in Buffalo Public Schools.

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Wasn't there something shady about the lawyer too? I don't remember.

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I feel like I read that in the binder.

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There was, there's connections where a lot of the, tell me how did it work? I think it was, it was something along the lines of like a significant amount of the lawyers that had worked at Buffalo public schools as employees would then get jobs and go work at this law firm that is then contracted out. I'd have to double check in the binder, but like they're, they're like heavily

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And it is, it's just, if you're a parent, future parent, you actually have to step up and cause a ruckus. Like, hey, what the if you read that paperwork, that's the biggest thing. Read that doc they released. Oh yeah. And now go into it with Richard has everything that shows, hey, this is actually what happened. It's not a he said, she said, and they, they try to use that. It's like, oh, well, we couldn't confirm on the other side. So there's no fault because that's a lot of that article is, well, we tried.

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I will.

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And the thing that is frustrating about that, we tried, which I talked about earlier is I understand the Buffalo police Department's side of things where, hey, there's a juvenile involved in this. We can't share the juvenile's information. And I would hope that they could still share the narrative of the reports, right? So the narrative of report are at such and such a time, at such and such a place, subject A

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talked to subject B and did XYZ, right? I would hope that they could redact those, the victim, the juvenile information, but still keep the narrative of what occurred and the location, which would show you the location of the school, right, the school's address. That is what I would hope the Buffalo Police Department would do. It is frustrating that the District Attorney's Office has not overturned, to my knowledge, other than I think that one email regarding the attempted abduction, it's not overturned any of their investigative findings

1:06:46

regarding some of the specific incidents to which I know, because talking with some of the media, where they asked me, is, does this involve such and such? And I would say, yes, because I know what it is. They were like, cool, that's call number 25 dash, insert numbers, right? And I'll go, okay, cool. And they would say, all right, well, these are insert numbers, right? And I'll go, okay, cool. They would say, all right, well, these are the people that are involved.

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This is what happens. This is the incident you're talking about. I'd say, yeah, that's the incident. They're like, well, we've got the call number. And then the district attorney's office will be like, no, we can't give you any of the information

1:07:17

that we found during our investigation for that. This is the thing where, again, I don't know if you can talk about it, we can delete this part, but it is to a fact where there is absolute lies on that documentation when you're like, what, no, this exists, this evidence exists.

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I know of incidents and I have, I know of them, and there are people in the media that have reached out to me and they have confirmed them with me, right? Through their investigation, through their FOIA requests, they said, are these some of

1:07:52

the issues or the incidents that where some of the issues are coming from? And I say yes. get the call numbers and the incident reports for incidents occurring at school addresses, which are totally foyable. This is not new information. You'll be able to discern if there is a lack of reporting. So I'll give you an example of what you can request. Let's say that you wanted to find out if reports were not being done appropriately, right?

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How do you look for something that isn't there? I think is maybe kind of like the question you might be asking. You'd have to compare it to two things. What you'd have to do is you'd have to request for 911 dispatch calls, right? To a school and, or you could request for a year's worth of 911 dispatch calls that would say school, school other, school whatever.

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School other is the biggest issue because that's the one where they hide the bullshit, right? It doesn't say school assault. It doesn't say school whatever. It says school other, which is where you could hide it because it doesn't – what does other mean?

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It can mean whatever you want. And it also doesn't say assault and flash up with a red flag saying something bad happened, right? That's where they hide stuff. So you could request the 911 dispatch calls or CAD, computer-aided dispatch, which is the what would pop up on our computer when we go to a call. You could request all of those school other calls. And then taking all of those CD numbers, which is case numbers, let's say, let's make it a lot. Let's say it's like 500 calls in a year to the schools. I don't think it's that many. But no, I

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would probably it was something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like 7000. Anyway, so let's say it's let's say you get five, yeah. Let's say you get 500 calls for one year or six months, just make it a couple months, right? To narrow down your investigation before I even went on my thing, which I have more information to tell you about

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after our thing and how things continued. So you would request from a time period, I want all the calls, the dispatched calls.

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Yeah, but what do you mean by all?

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Yeah, right, what do you mean by all? So you would FOIA the dispatch calls that came out of school other. FOIA request all those calls dispatched out on CAD or radio runs, however you want to describe it. And then you could request all the reports for those calls.

1:10:45

Now, if a computer-aided dispatch call, right, comes out, then it says, hey, call 30, this call started at 10 in the morning, and car 411 goes to that call, right? The description of the call is school other. Additional information in that dispatch call is

1:11:06

assault student on student, which you'll find. If you requested the 1375 or the police report for that call you would be surprised at how from assault student on student, there is no police report for it. Now, let me ask you this hypothetical question.

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So if they're hit with this, this will be like, hey, and then these are the ones that have actual reports or nothing.

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Hey, what is the reason for no police report?

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That's a good question.

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Brandon, that is the golden question.

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That's the golden goose right there. So what you'll find is potentially if you have a call and you'll see them, I assume maybe if you get a call where it says offense occurred between two students or let's even just say an assault happened between a student and a teacher and you don't have a police report for that. Do you think that a detective in the special victims unit is going to know that that assault

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occurred? Or do you think that a district detective is going to know that that assault occurred between the student and the teacher if no police report is made?

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Just are no.

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I'm going to say no, which is one of the issues. I mean and that's that's not something that I that's it's not breaking news that's something that you can FOIA that's something that's been a part of these investigations since the moment that I

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came out and talked about them. It's just wild that that can even happen where it's like, meh, push it aside. So we sweep it under the rug. We won't report that one. Yep. So what would you, before we wrap this up, what would be your next steps for the individuals watching? Because we discussed this is happening

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way more than just Buffalo. We've all seen that. It was the sheer amount of DMs about, it's like, hey, this is going on my school district. Fucking mind blowing.

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So. school district, fucking mind blowing. So cool, because people real quick, if I could just that you see it a lot, people always pay attention, like the big sexy, you know, federal elections and things like that. But they don't pay attention to things like school board. And like

1:13:13

local things, which affects you the most honestly, yeah, and your local elections affect you more than anything in federal

1:13:18

government level. Not only does it affect you more, most likely, but also it is where you have the biggest voice. Instead of being one out of 30 million, now all of a sudden you're one out of 300. And you can talk to a bunch of other people in the community and get them involved and like, really you can make big moves, but people don't.

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Because people, it's very easy to get complacent and get lazy.

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Who can name people that member on my school board.

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It's not like they're in charge of the minds of your kids or anything.

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Yeah, it's not like you give these people six hours a day, five days a week, time with your kids.

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Ryan's in charge of his own mind. Treasure, you shall listen to me. I'm like, okay, bud, stop it. It's wild because I don't think, it's knowing your kids, teachers, and then above that. And then all everything that they can change, represent,

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hide, take care of is extremely important.

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That's the crazy part. Like I've talked to multiple teachers that are fucking awesome and know this is a problem and have been, some of them have been talking about it for years and have been taken to court multiple times and tried. They've tried to fire them multiple times because they push back and fight against the corrupt school board and just nobody listens to them. No, I don't feel like there are really

1:14:40

good teachers in Buffalo school district. It's just some of the people that are elected in charge are pieces of shit.

1:14:47

Are they the ones that flip people off and zoom calls and then lie about it?

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Nope. Not those ones. Oh, okay.

1:14:53

So the ones that are in the same sorority?

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No, I'm saying the good ones. Oh, Oh, the good ones. Like the good teachers that like have been trying to tell people that this is going on, but just nobody listens. Like I've got one guy was the whistleblower almost.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is a known issue.

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They tried to fire him three times. I in my binder. I have the court documents where I think it was over a stabbing at the high school. Yeah, and he tried to get them in trouble for it because he had went and told them like hey this door doesn't work

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And it doesn't lock and it like directly led to a stabbing at that school Yeah, and like created an issue Lucy and they retaliated against him They put him and he was the head of his department. I think it was like social studies or history department They put him on leave for over a year, I believe. And then all the other teachers in his department on leave and tried to fire the entire department.

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I think the other teachers in the department weren't on leave as long as he was, but he was on leave for like a year plus while they were in court fighting it out. And the court system, I have the court documents where it was signed off on like this dude literally did nothing wrong

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You can't fucking fire him. What are you talking about?

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If we have groups like that always, you know, they're very quick to protect their own and you know circle the wagons Oh, no, those are our guys. You can't fire them No matter what they did unless you go against the grain and as you call them out for their bullshit in that case

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I leave you out to die. Well, that's where I think that slush fund,

1:16:25

I'd almost say have a portion of that slush fund goes towards that. It's like, hey, if you have a school district that does fuck you, because it is terrifying. It's like, what am I going to do

1:16:35

that school board's going to attack me? Oh, I can maybe rally anything. Now, if you have a backing, and then you all understand, if you bring up kids, safety, anything like that, a lot more people will rally behind you than you think. And if we can help with that, then that's our job.

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Be funny if we do, like, cause you know we do the autism charity month, we do veteran charity month for Unsub. We just add a third month into the rotation. That's just the War Chest Month.

1:17:07

Literally, we just keep a War Chest so we can sue dummies. Dude, literally, it's like, hey, you're doing this.

1:17:12

The pact to specifically spend against people who are f***ing assholes like the DA.

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That's a year one that just stays around and that can we just add into it throughout the year? Speak softly and carry a $300,000 threat yeah then they will be very oh shit I'm putting my job at risk for this oh look how many people with social media here's hundreds of thousands that will look at it and then here is the funds to defend that to make an actual change I like that idea a lot I think one of the changes that need to be made now, and I think it's an easy change to be made,

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is if I'm not mistaken, at this moment, the Buffalo Public Schools have all their social media comments turned off. Weird. Which, if you are a public body, I believe, and I know that if you're a representative

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of people, like the president can't turn off comments or block people. If it's an official account, I think there was a Supreme Court case about it five to ten years ago that says that that's illegal. Official social media accounts, specifically I know the Facebook one for the Buffalo Public Schools, they have all comments turned off, which you cannot do, if I understand that,

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legally.

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I don't know about entities. I know for people it's it's a violation. How do you talk back and forth with people from your community that you represent if you turn off the comments? Oh don't get me wrong I think it's egregious either way but like legally speaking I don't know if it extends that far but that's just

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because I don't know. I think that it's one of those things that it's a small I mean, our fucking lawyer just asked him good news. We're building a pact where we can sue bad politicians and just target shitty people.

1:18:49

Also, Jake, come here. Can we do that on camera real quick? Got the you and I just got back from the polls.

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There you go.

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They voted.

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I vetoed.

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Nice.

1:19:00

Tony, I hear he's a great guy. Never been involved in scandals.

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Perfect voting record. Just real real you should have seen you say I vetoed Tony Gonzalez

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I vetoed I fired you said Well the people of Texas I fired him more more accurately. I assume anyway, dude

1:19:17

I could get shellacked tonight if you're not gonna if you're not gonna sell this shirt I will or maybe this can be the first war war chest pack shirt

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I to sell this shirt, I will. Or maybe this can be the first war chest pack shirt. I fired Tony Gonzalez. That would be great. I'm everybody that voted for Brandon gets to rock that shirt. I think we need to start a pack and like, that's, we need to look into this. I fired Tony Gonzalez. I fired representative totally Gonzalez. No, I I'm actually excited at the idea.

1:19:45

The gang gets into politics.

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Well, because not only is it like, are we going to bring the eye of Sauron with our autistic army behind us, but also now there's actual financial ramifications. Cause it's like, you know, they can, you know, turn off their comments for a week or two

1:20:00

and watch it die down. But now it's like, oh no, fuck, I just, I'm in a district or an area or whatever local community where my entire race was $100,000 and these people are looming over me with not only millions of viewers, but also that kind of money.

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I mean, like, that's a real threat to make people, and again, we're not doing it to like, sway people to do the wrong thing. We're just holding people accountable, making them do their job.

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That's it.

1:20:28

I think the first step for the Buffalo Public Schools to push them in the right direction is to have the family step up and to have them turn their comments back on

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on all social media.

1:20:37

Yeah. What a small win to show that we're taking this seriously. How can you hear us complain if you turn off the comments? Not do a public school board. Sorry, the question I was going to ask you, we were talking about the Supreme Court case that they decided a few years ago where public officials cannot block their constituents or turn off comments and things like that. Does that extend to public entities like the Buffalo

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Public School System?

1:20:59

I don't know, honestly.

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That was my answer as well.

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Yeah.

1:21:02

I'm not sure. No, honestly. That was my answer as well. Yeah. Because federally, if you can yell the DOD or DOW, and they can't block you, I would assume that that could still be for smaller entities at the state and local level. Obviously, they're limited to the state and local level of people that they represent or that pay the taxes

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to keep that place going.

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It would make sense, but I don't know the answer

1:21:28

The gang goes to the Supreme Court

1:21:52

Which seems like that's what they're doing, which is why I'm saying people of the city of Buffalo rise up and have them turn their comments back on. How did they, how did they do the public board, but then closed it? Honestly, if I was a parent in Buffalo public schools, here's what I would do. Cause the only thing these people care about is money and public schools are paid by having your kid in the school. That's why they get super upset.

1:22:13

If you don't have an excused absence and do all their paperwork and they want doctor's notes, because if your kid misses so many days, they don't get funding from the government. So if I was a parent at Buffalo public schools, what I would do is I would get a bunch of other parents and I would organize school walkouts, which schools in America are really into right now,

1:22:32

as long as it's for the correct political thing, they'll be super pissed about this one because it's about protecting kids and being held accountable to do their own job. They'll be, they'll be mad, but I would organize school walkouts so your kids just don't go to school every Monday all fucking year long Until they fix their shit and then they're not getting paid. That's what I would do dude a week walkout would fucking Crucify, you know, here's the thing. Oh, when they walk out. No if you do the week rhymes Monday Tuesday

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And here's a big calls are happening It doesn't even need to be everybody. Even if you got 20% of the school body to just like,

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no, I'm taking my kids not coming in today.

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I will say they couldn't fight back against it without talking about the reason. Yep. That's the big one is they can't try to mother fuck the parents of these kids like, oh, well, this, this Well this this this if it's a a lot of them and be they would have to say the reason that they're pro

1:23:30

What are they gonna do call the cops and not talk to us at all about anything?

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It would be school. We get more school others

1:23:39

Super weird if half of the Buffalo school kids didn't go to school and the school got mad and called the cops because the Parents weren't having excused absences for school, which is illegal So they called Buffalo pup or Buffalo Police Department and the Buffalo Police Department said no no No, you can't tell me who the kids are that aren't showing up because that would be a violation of FERPA So you can't share that information with me. Sorry can't help you a click. See how that logic goes. I mean, I'm correct, isn't it? They can't share that information with you. That's FERPA. I mean, that's, that's their stance. That's their interpretation of it. That's their stance.

1:24:13

I didn't say that. That's just using their legal jargon against them. Or I mean with them, because they, that's what they want. They want that. They want that. I like that a lot.

1:24:25

Oh, huh.

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I mean, that's what I would do if it was my kids. I mean, any other last pieces of advice, Mr. Richard,

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from what you're dealing with?

1:24:36

Yeah, this isn't the end.

1:24:36

That's a really good, that is what, Nick has gold, you can replay that back a couple times.

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Man, the next time you get hurt, they're fucked.

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I'm planning on getting hurt right around November, 2028. I've got a date with somebody.

1:24:54

The other thing is I've unfortunately planned on the investigation not holding people accountable.

1:25:26

So I have more information the investigation not holding people and then I will be sharing that. Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart. Yeah, get ready for round two. Five.

1:25:34

Well, yeah. Listen, whatever round it is, get ready because it's gonna upset you almost as much, if not more, because I told you about it already. It's gonna upset you a whole lot.

1:25:47

I'm gonna have to learn about this later.

1:25:49

I can tell you it in two minutes the second the cameras turn off. And it literally that fast and you'll be like, oh, yeah.

1:25:58

Well, I mean, if it's the truth, it needs to come out.

1:26:00

Oh, it will, you'll be able to FOIA it. Yeah, 100%,. You'll be able to FOIA it. Yeah, 100%. It's going to be something you'll be able to FOIA and get as soon as the request goes through. It should not be an issue.

1:26:08

And something as a parent, when you hear this episode, like do something, make a change. There's worse if you don't do something and then you hear that you're like, fuck, I should have done it then.

1:26:19

Yeah. Why did I wait? weight. Get involved now and allow this to snowball in a good way. Yep.

1:26:29

Brandon, Cody, Cody, Brandon, you want to just blending together at this point?

1:26:31

Understand? Congressman donut? Yeah. Herrera. Operator's out brandy. Her own nut.

1:26:41

Thank you guys for joining the unsubs podcast, aka the Absolutely Foul Podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick the Fat Electrician, Rich Angry Cops, and myself, Bro-Nut Broperator. Thank you guys so much and we'll see you next time.

1:26:57

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