RACHEL: YAKIN INI BUKAN ANAK ALOY⁉️🤣KENAPA SIH LOE GA PAKE SPIRAL!! Kenapaaaa jawaaab🤣 Erika Carlina

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But Erika, I have a question that's a bit sensitive.

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Sure.

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Are you sure this isn't Aloy's child? Her first words?

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Aloy, of course. Aloy.

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This isn't the first time she's told us she's thinking of a tumor.

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Yeah. No, she's still...

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You're thinking of a tumor, right?

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Yeah, I'm like, I don't believe it.

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No, that's... there's a sign, right? USGG right? Yes, USG There's the number, the picture, the sonar

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Right

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You were pregnant right?

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Yes, but the doctor said I was stupid Actually, I didn't get along with Fuji at first I didn't like him that much

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What's wrong with you? Huh? Nothing, what's wrong? and closed the door. I'm I still know why From 4.30pm he's already here 4.30pm? I heard you said you're late

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No, I'm lying. He's already here at 4.30pm I mean, it should be 4pm But I'm afraid I'll be late So I said I'll be here at 5pm But I've been walking since... I'm afraid I'll get scolded if I'm late

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So I hurriedly...

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You're lying

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I swear, I'm I'm so stupid. I don't want to blame anyone.

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But maybe people have forgotten what the problem is. Let's not talk about it.

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Yeah, let's not. Please, don't talk about it.

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The thing is, we don't want to talk about it. But your behavior makes people ask questions. So, I think you should just be normal. You should smile, laugh, be happy. If you're happy, you don't have to put your hand down. Why are you a mushroom seller? I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy.

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I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy.

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I'm happy. She's not here yet. She's here, but she's still in the womb. You were accompanied by Rachel. How dare you accompany her at that time? It's so hard now. You're friends who are so close. I saw the videos. The video of you two together.

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Usually, if the girl is in the same shirt, it's complicated.

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We were just playing around.

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You were playing around. You like to roast her. I'm just telling the truth. And she's like, okay. Are you mad? That's it.

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Actually, when Erica was coming here,

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to be honest, I didn't dare to do it. To be honest, I didn't dare to.

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But because, I mean, she was in a position that I think was a bit of a drag. She needed a friend. I think I'm a loser. You need a friend. I think I'm so selfish. I said I can't accompany you because I'm afraid of your uncle. So, I said, okay. Even though he still chatted me like that.

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But actually, Er...

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He chatted you like that?

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Cel, I want to talk to your uncle. Can you accompany me?

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You said it. I said it.

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Then Rachel answered, it's not because I don't want to be your friend. But, have you ever heard that I've been talked about by my uncle? Where did he talk about me? He's been discussed my problem. I'm afraid he hates me when he sees my face.

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You're so stubborn.

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But actually, my first impression when I came, there was Rachel, how was it? Om Dad?

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I never had a problem with her. I was in trouble with what she did at that time. I think I'm stupid. That's it. If that's the case, I don't have a problem anymore. Let's move on.

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Let's move on.

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Let's move on. I'm funny. You're already... I'm already... Omdet, right? It's getting hot, right? It's going viral, right?

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Yeah, because October is... It's a hot month. My business is not done yet. Oh, Nat got caught.

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Huh?

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You don't know?

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No.

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It's...

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It's stupid. It's all... It's all that... You're stupid. No, no, no.

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It's all the same. I'm stupid too.

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Can I ask?

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Sure.

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What's his name?

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He's not a kid.

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Onat.

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Oh, Onat.

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I'm sorry, I didn't mean it.

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Onat.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. But I'm curious. Did you back up him at that time? Did you back up him at that time? Because you were roasting him too, lately. Backing up in what? If for example, roasting, sometimes I learned from what I've been through. Sometimes the way I cope with things that in my life is made fun of.

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So, when people insult me, I insult myself first. So, that's what Erika sometimes treats. So, we both... We both... We both insult each other. So, if there's an insult from our netizen,

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it's heard from our own friend. For us, it's like that.

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That's good. We heard it from our friends. We're like that.

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That's good. It's good. I mean, before I was mentally abused by other people, the closest people were the ones who realized it.

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But have you ever been bullied?

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At first, when... How do I say this? At first, I said this was the first time I got a big test for the first time. I hope my friends can give me support, can encourage me, can give me the spirit. Like what other people see. When I first told them, they said, no, sir.

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Well, it's not the first time you told them, they thought it was a tumor.

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Yes.

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No, they gave me the OSG. You thought it was a tumor, right? I'm There are numbers, there are pictures, there are sonars. You were pregnant, right? Yes, but my mom said I was stupid. So I didn't think I was pregnant.

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But that's it.

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But she's like a joker. I'm not kidding, crazy. I'm not kidding, I'm just like this. Go home now, It's important. Okay, okay. Because I rarely say that I can't go home with someone. Because I rarely do that. I rarely tell my mom.

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You're independent.

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Suddenly it's important.

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So they're already negative thinking. What is it? So our negative thinking is more to... Because Erica has autoimmune, right? So we're like, is this person going to die or what? I'm No, actually, to be honest, the first time he said that, my brain was like that too. Pregnant? So stupid.

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How can you do that?

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Yeah, that's it.

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Yeah, the world is a night world. Yeah, I took that as...

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What?

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Advice.

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Too late.

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Advice, Mak.

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Before. But you think it's a tumor? Yes, because we're already big, we have a lot of sex education. You can't tell the difference.

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Do you understand? Like, you're already 30. At that time, it's admitted, you're already big. People who are married usually have a 21-year-old child, why are you 30? Sorry.

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Sorry.

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That's how it is. But yeah,

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actually, the way I show my love is by telling the worst things.

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What's the worst?

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Like, you're going to be criticized.

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I'm still having a tumor. Oh yeah? Yeah's still. That's still. That's still. That's still. That's still.

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That's still.

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That's still.

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That's still in an empty bag, black. Yeah, it's still this small. It's still really small. So I told her about it, like, like, spreading the wedding invitation.

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Yeah, not like you, you're so pretty.

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I put a letter.

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What's the purpose of that? Open it myself. Open it yourself? It's still in the envelope? Okay. There's no writing on the envelope? Yes. Okay. There's no writing on the envelope, right? Clinic?

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There is.

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There is.

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But it's not a hospital for mothers and children. It's a hospital for the tumors.

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Oh, RSPI. Okay. And who are those?

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Rachel, Fuji, Chelsea.

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And all of them who are talking about tumors?

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This was the opening, right? I read that there was a doodad on it. Doodad. Doodad. Oh, there's a doodad. I just found it. I was like, oh, I see. I was like, oh, I see.

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I was like, oh, I see. I was like, no, it's not. I read that there's a due date on it.

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Due date?

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Oh, there's a due date. I just found out that he's pregnant. Because there's a due date on it. I saw it from afar. He said, no, I'm pregnant. Oh, you're lying.

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I was like, really? There's a due date? We even said, this is a prank, this is a prank, this is a prank, this can be printed on Shopee or what?

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we think like

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sorry

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no, if it's printed, it's usually revoked

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or snappy

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if it's printed on Shopee lie it's a bit difficult if it's printed on Shopee I guess we'll eat the go pretty sure yes

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yes

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yes

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yes

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yes yes yes yes yes Fuji cries Fuji cries

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We are different

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Fuji cries like Poor him Chelsea cries like proud Congrats I cry like

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Asshole

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She cries like Help me

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I cry like

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Help me But Fuji is like, please help me. And Buji was like, don't be like that. I was like, what is this? And I mean, maybe because they were thinking about my next move. And what do you want to do, Er? What do you want to do? Because, it's impossible, I think you're ready.

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You're ready with the challenges. Or what? Or you want to defend but you go abroad first. But at that time, I was still blank. I still didn't know anything. I still didn't know, didn't know. And then, they were crying.

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Rachel was just like this. And I finally apologized. Apologizing is like, I'm sorry if later, I'm afraid. I'm afraid it will have an impact on them. Because I was playing with them.

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Now, it's already happened.

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It's already happened?

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I don't really care. I've been to Indonesia. So, I've been playing with them. Why did it happen? I was in Indonesia for a while. So, I was pretty famous.

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Why did you get caught?

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Because I was a free trade ambassador. So, the free trade gang, people said that.

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Oh, so you were called the free trade gang.

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So, because of me, everyone got caught. But I apologized to them, and I told them not to mix it up.

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If you were called a free traderange manager, it's a work of art.

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What? Work of art?

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Crazy. Why did you say work of art?

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But he was happy yesterday, he was really happy.

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But it looked like a dead uncle.

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Because it's a close the door baby. Dad. Because it's by Close The Door.

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That's right. It's by Close The Door.

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It's by Close The Door. At first, when Indonesia knew about it, it was because of Close The Door. When I saw Andrew, I knew it was one of Close The Door's works.

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That's right.

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Andrew is comfortable here, right?

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He's comfortable. But I heard that told him the secret.

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I swear to God, no.

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Just one person.

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Just one person?

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My mom.

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Is your mom cute?

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Wait a minute. So, when he was pregnant, we thought, I was pregnant without a womb. So I thought, what if he without a womb I thought, she didn't have a friend So, Fuji and I replaced Erica at home

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My mom was jealous Like, what's wrong with Erica? So, I didn't know how to explain it So, I told my mom Mi, please don't tell anyone And don't ask too many questions.

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I'm telling you this, Erica is pregnant. That's why I often go to Erica's house. But it's really only my mom that I'm telling you.

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But your mom doesn't care?

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Praise be to God, no. Because I've threatened her in every possible way.

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Oh, so your mom is live?

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Huh? My mom is live?

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We just told you about the hospital. But your dad doesn't know the story. Yeah, so...

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Just tell us.

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So, the story is... The only people who know about Erika's pregnancy is the three of us. Erika, Fuji, Chelsea, and maybe... and Brevi. But Brevi is dead. When Erika was born, she was so proud of me.

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Rachel and Fuji were able to keep the secret. I didn't spill anything. I didn't spill anything. Not even a rumor. My mom wanted to go to the beach. I knew it, but she didn't tell anyone.

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You were caught.

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I was caught, if I told her. Yeah, so I was like, I felt like I was just made proud in front of her.

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Isn't it her mom? She likes to spread gossip on Instagram. No.

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The red bag? Huh? Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry. I usually post it on Facebook Oh, I already have Instagram Do you live on TikTok?

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I live on TikTok, I happen to like it

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Live on TikTok

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So, what's up?

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The thing is, Tasha's son, Farash, got rejected by my mom's story for the first time When Vicky first took off her hijab, she got rejected by my mom's story too That's why I was like, Mi, please, Mi, please

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The other mothers were like, what should I do?

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The other mothers were like, what should I do?

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Can I ask how old you are?

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Sure

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How old are you?

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I'll be 50 next year

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Oh, that means you're the same age as me

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No need to be that old

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Oh, so you're the same age as me. You don't have to be like that. Oh, really?

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You're really 50?

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Yeah, I'm 50 next year. I don't see it.

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You don't see it?

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You're 49.

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49.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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No, seriously.

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I thought you were like 44. You're 40. I'm 50. I heard that 90% of female friends end up breaking up

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There are a lot of them A lot What do you mean?

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I'm just kidding

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Oh my god, you just realized it

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It's normal

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You just realized it when you're in a relationship What? With which news?

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No, I don't know

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I heard that 90% of female friends are separated because sometimes there's one person gossiping about something and the other person doesn't like it and then it gets complicated

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Oh

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You guys never do that? You gossip together? No, so in my opinion we're three, for example I mean in this friendship, we are three, for example, in this friendship, I'm three, I'm Erika and Fuji.

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For example, Erika is fighting with me, I'm going to Fuji, I'm like gossiping Erika to Fuji, but not outside of Rana.

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In your friendship, there is also a fight?

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Of course.

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What is the fight? There is. A lot. We just had a fight. I'm Ikan Mas, tau. Ikan Mas. Ikan Koki, tau. Tau Ikan Koki?

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Tau.

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Jadi, Ikan Koki itu secara riset. Dia ingatnya cuma 3 menit. Padahal otaknya besar kan?

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Eh, iya kan? Ikan Koki kan itu?

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Lu di Bangkok nih? Masa gue yang cerita sih?

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Ya, pokoknya ya. Do you remember going to Bangkok?

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How?

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The last time I went to Bangkok, we were chatting, and you asked me, can I do this and this?

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And I said,

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that's it.

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You were whispering,

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I could hear it too.

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The mic was so loud.

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The last when we fought This one

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Posting This one

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Help me post

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I know

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I know He has a jeans brand

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Oh yeah yeah yeah

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Don't talk about that No, it's not, that's not discussed. We just talked about it.

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It's really new.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then there was a debate. Well, I came out there, like, usually, for example, I understand Rachel better. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, Cel. I'll go there, for example.

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Well, at that moment, I don't know why, I was like, I was like, you're so basic, you don't want to understand me, you just want to be understood. Why do I have to be the one who understands you? I've never understood you, something like that.

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You think I don't understand you? Who is it that I don't understand? So, that's it, Om. At that moment, that was the first time we did that.

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Luckily, we weren't in the gang.

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What was it? And then, one minute later, one minute later, he was like, Sorry, Er, I'm crazy. And then he said, yes, I'm crazy too.

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And that was it.

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Just for a minute, and then he popped a photo of him crying.

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Why? he was popping a photo of him crying. Why did you fight with him? Garga fought with him?

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He's a weapon, if you're fighting, you'll definitely pop his face, he's blushing, he's crying. Why do you only fight about that, and then you cry? Why? Because when I'm angry, when I'm angry, it's like... Emotional? So I was like, nodding my head as I was taking out my eyes. And he felt that I was typical, like, if we had a fight, we couldn't be friends anymore. He's a typical cut-off.

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So he cried.

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Have you ever been cut-off?

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I have, but not often.

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Who cut-off? No, I mean, he cut-off you, right?

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No, no.

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There were people who were your friends. Yes, it was a long time ago. And then, if it's a girl and a girl, they're friends. Okay, you meet, right? What do you talk about? If it's a boy and a boy, usually, right? You talk about life.

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After that, you talk about a girl. After the girl, you talking about the government. The ending is, if it's night, we're talking about aliens.

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Oh, that's heavy.

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Heavy.

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I was talking about Omnidate news, I just found out.

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Thank you.

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But it's true, we talked about it. Because Rachel said, I'm ready, I want to talk about you. No, I didn't say that. You're crazy.

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Why? I can't want to talk about it. Why?

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What did you mean? Why are you so rude?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Let's talk about this. I have a lot of plans this month. Is it because of my fate? Yeah. I think JindaSim? Yeah, this year, JindaSim is really working hard.

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Oh, have you ever talked about people?

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More to what?

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If you're flirting with people, can you do that?

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No.

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No? You're not the type of person who flirts with people.

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Flirt, flirt.

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We don't say bad things about people, but sometimes we like to talk about what's happening. We sometimes talk about it. For example, there's a viral one. We talk about the news that's going viral. We talk about it like we want the public to know.

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Okay. From the viral things that are being talked about, is there any disagreement? Is there anyone who says, Oh, I can't. This is how people are.

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There is. There is debate. But mostly we are almost the same mind. Yeah, that's right. If I and Erika, if there is someone who is in a case, if I was in a case, I always try to see from two points of view and try to see from the other person's side too.

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Eh, Mr. Rage omong, are you crying?

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Yes. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say this I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say this Oh my god

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And then? For example, someone made a mistake And then, because I've made a mistake before So I don't dare to comment

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Okay, okay So you have to see What the case is like Is it true or not And then maybe he's like this and that, evaluate it first

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especially if you make comments like in social media or

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I don't know I'm quiet but this doesn't mean you're being rude, right? no but, I'm scared

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so I'm not saying anything

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it's okay, why? It's okay, it's okay

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Just say it

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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So, because I was in a position where people were praising me as one Indonesia with my fault and all that So, for me to comment on other people's cases, even if it's bad, I don't dare to do it because I don't know what really happened.

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So what really happened at that time?

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Huh?

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He's the one fishing again, right?

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He's been fishing since earlier, right? But let's get out of there. Are your characters different? I'm sure there's one that's the most realistic. One that's a role model. One that's like her. I'm confused. I'm explaining it to you. Usually, friends can't have the same character. If you have the same character, you won't be friends.

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There are. There are a lot. If you look at it from a very real perspective, I used to, up until now, I'm very jealous of her and still am, very jealous.

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Very jealous?

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Very jealous. Rachel used to tell me, You know, you're sick, Er. You're so jealous. And I felt like I was right.

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Being jealous is normal.

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Because you love her.

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Yes, because I love her. But jealousy can't be controlled, Om. In my opinion. Rachel always said, yes, but it's unhealthy to be jealous. She said, like me,

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I'm just calm, I've never been jealous, I'm not free.

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But failed.

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Well, since then she became jealous. Since she failed, she became jealous. Because I used to think like, whether it's a boy or a girl, if they're in a relationship, if they have the intention to cheat, they will definitely cheat.

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So, if they have the intention, I think they already cheated. So, why do we have to forbid it? But it turns out that we have to. Now she said that. It turns out that it's true, Er. As women, we should be jealous.

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But, but, you said that before, hypocrite. If you want to be chained, if you want to cheat, just cheat. Because of that, we should ban it now. But if you want to cheat, just cheat. And how do you want to be banned? If you want to cheat, just cheat.

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That's right. I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do.

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I'm going to tell you what he allowed me to do it, it's an honesty. So you don't have any fear when you're on a date, and you're jealous, and you're jealous of the girl who's trying to seduce you, and all that, you don't have that kind of thought?

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Back then, I did have that kind of thought. Not the fear, but more like... well, if he's cheating, then he's means he's not for you. Because with a situation like that, he can cheat.

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I understand. But not because of cheating, because there's a chance.

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But it's not our duty to... ...to make sure that chance doesn't come. The control is in us. The control is in him. I think the control is in you. I don't want to answer. He's already got a mustache. He's already got a mustache. He's already got a mustache. He's already got a mustache. He's already got a mustache. He's already got a mustache.

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He's already got a mustache.

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He's already get a question. This is a story about a couple.

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You're three, right?

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This is not happening, but this is the story.

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There's a guy. And the guy is close to... He likes your friend. He's a friend of yours. He's a friend of yours. He's a friend of yours. This is not happening, but for example, you have a boyfriend.

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And your boyfriend is close to your friend. How is it? The boyfriend is the one who is kicked out, or the girlfriend is the one who is kicked out? Or has it ever happened?

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If from the smile, it has happened. I I think I see how important friendship is from the male's point of view. Actually, how to test how big the love or how we appreciate the relationship, the friendship is seen from the male's point of view. It's the same as the male and the female. If you feel that our relationship is important, you won't cheat on it. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm just going to let it be. But I only watch this from the movies, right? I don't...

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Yeah, I thought you were a philosopher. But you're watching this from the movies.

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Well, I think... I've been friends with him for a long time. I mean, I don't really a lot of friends. I mean, I don't have a lot of friends... I'm sorry, I'll just blank.

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It's okay. I'm used to it.

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I don't have a lot of new friends. My friends are from my high school, college. So, Erika and Fuji, maybe they're the only two... ...in the entertainment world who became my best friends. It's really just the two of them. The others are just ordinary friends.

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Sometimes I think, for example... ...because of a guy... ...I think it's not worth it for me. If there's a guy... ...we fight over a guy, it it's worth it for me. If for example, there's a guy, we fight over him, and it's like, no way.

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Yeah, too cheesy. What is it? Our friendship is more than that, in my opinion. But if it's friendship, psychologically, if it's friendship, if the bird, if the feathers are different, it won't gather.

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So if the bird's feathers are different, that's't gather. So, if the birds have different feathers, that's why we never see a church bird or a bird of prey. One of them will die. That's never happened. So, from that perspective,

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it means that we have to meet three people with the same character.

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Right?

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How do we meet?

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There are many similarities.

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No, I mean, how do you... Banyak sih. Kesamaan-kesamaannya banyak. Gimana lu... Gua masih penasaran gimana kalian bisa bertemannya sih. Kan dunia kalian kan gede banget, luas banget, temen banyak. Sampe ngumpul jadi tiga orang tuh kan... Ngelewatin banyak hal.

31:20

Banyak hal. Kalo aku bisa jawab, aku tuh punya banyak temen, Om. Karena aku ini orang yang suka have many friends, Om. Because I'm a person who likes to hang out. Maybe if Rachel answers why her friend is only in one circle,

31:32

because she has been keeping her friends since school until now. So she still has friends from school?

31:38

And that's the gang until now.

31:39

What grade are you in?

31:42

High school.

31:43

From high school? Oh, wow.

31:45

I had a friend who worked with me. And there were some who were in the creative world.

31:56

So you can't be alone.

31:57

Huh?

31:58

So you're a person who can't be alone.

32:02

That was fast to read, right?

32:03

Right? She needed people around her to accompany her. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

32:05

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. special? I'm happy when I'm at home. At the gym. Because I have a gym at home.

32:50

And there's no one else. If it's just for one day, then one day. I'm happy when I'm alone. I think you can't do it alone. Right? Why? What makes you can't do it alone, right?

33:05

Why? What makes you can't do it alone? I don't know. Actually, it's my weakness. I can't do it alone. I like to be self-centered, and cry alone.

33:23

Cry alone?

33:24

Yes, I'm a bit over the top. That's why I consider my friends as family, because they know my shortcomings. So sometimes my friends take turns to accompany me.

33:36

So, if you're with Erika, she accompanies you?

33:41

I mean... Who's the one who talks? We don'ter, but we're just the two of us. We just talk. We're not the talker, the one who's in charge. Do you have to see him every day?

33:53

Not really.

33:55

But there's a phase where I'm like, I think I need you. Can I come to your house? So there's someone who's like, I'm having a problem, can I come to your house?" So, there's someone who's like, I'm having a problem, can you come to my house?

34:07

If he's like, sure, I'll come to your house. The important thing is that there's someone to accompany you.

34:11

I'm curious, can I ask? If you don't want to answer, it's okay. But, like Erika said, I need you, can I come to your house?

34:18

What's the definition of needing you? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sad when my kids are with their dad. We're switching, right?

34:48

When my kids are with their dad, I'm really stressed.

34:53

Have you tried Netflix?

34:55

What?

34:56

Netflix needs friends. Netflix needs friends. Can you do it alone? I You can do it alone?

35:05

Yes, I like to do it alone.

35:08

So, you're not bothered?

35:09

No, because Rachel is the one who came. Maybe she's the one who's not bothered. Because she knows what to do when she comes to my house.

35:17

What to do, what to do.

35:19

You can't ask me to do anything.

35:20

I'll just stay quiet. If you don't want to talk, just sit with her. Just sit and watch. So, she only needs someone by her side. But she's happy. People like her.

35:32

She still has friends in high school. 10 people keep her company. It's amazing. I tried it once. But?

35:40

I was already in a stroke.

35:42

I'm sorry.

35:46

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Her mouth is a bit... That's interesting. What about Fuji?

35:52

Fuji is funny. Her character is different from Rachel. When she comes to my house, it's the same. Nidhi too. When she's in a hurry, maybe because of work or when she has a problem, she'll say, I want to go home. She doesn't talk to me when she's at home. Because I usually play PS at home, or other problems. I asked her, I want to go home. She didn't talk to me when I went home. Because I usually play PS at home.

36:06

Or watch Netflix. Now I have a kid, so I take care of him. So, they came, but... Fuji is already... Gojek is already a big deal. So, he came to meet Gojek.

36:17

Gojek is a food?

36:18

Food. Gofoodoodnya. So, he came, sat next to me, and ate. No talking.

36:26

Wow.

36:28

We don't have to talk. Sometimes, we need... For me, sometimes, with my friends, who I consider family, I just feel comfortable. Like, where actually,

36:42

maybe it's a bad thing. Because we should be able to do it by ourselves. But I don't like being alone. So I... at least there's someone. At least there's Erica beside me. What can I do?

36:54

But it's a blessing for Erica.

36:56

For me, yes.

36:57

Very, very, very. I mean, there are people who need you. Even though you don't need to do anything, but you have your own figure, yang justru butuh lu, walaupun lu gak perlu ngapa-ngapain, tapi jadi ada sosok lu aja, sudah jadi blessed sendiri, kan?

37:06

Karena lumayan susah untuk karakter kayak aku ya, untuk punya temen yang jangka panjang tuh lumayan susah. Karena kan, ya kalau akunya aja gak nyari-nyariin gitu,

37:18

kalau dia kan effort banget kan, nyariin, main yuk, let's play, let's play. If I don't have anyone to invite to play, I won't play. But if for example, Erika's character is... She's okay to be alone, right? What makes you come to her? What is she like, alone? She doesn't want to be disturbed sometimes?

37:35

I...

37:37

I...

37:38

Every time I meet... From all my friends, including Erika and Fuji, I... Actually, I always believe in my instincts. I know that I will be comfortable with him.

37:50

But there was a moment when Erika said that she wanted to play PS.

37:55

Like when I was... I know when he wants to be alone. So I definitely won't come. The way is to ask the lady.

38:05

Ask the lady?

38:06

Ask the lady. Oh, right. If the lady says, Oh, I'll just go outside.

38:12

I usually ask, What's the mood like, Erica? If the lady answers, It's broken. Oh, I'm not going there.

38:18

The mood is broken.

38:19

If it's broken, you're alone.

38:21

She has to be alone.

38:22

If you're broken, You're alone? Yes, I'm alone. He has to be alone. What's the definition of being broken? If you're stressed, you're better off alone?

38:30

Alone.

38:31

He sleeps. The important thing is that one day he can go around quickly, so that the next day...

38:37

So, if you have a problem, you don't need a friend?

38:41

Honestly, I need it, but the problem is that my mood can't be helped by people around me. So, there are people who need friends to fix their mood. Well, I want to fix my mood first.

38:53

If it's better, I'll go to them. Because when you have friends, you talk a lot, ask a lot of questions, it's even more stressful.

38:58

Yes. And also, typically, if you give input, sometimes it still fights with your own thoughts.

39:04

Yes, it's not over yet. It's like when there's sad news. If my friend is missing, I won't call or text. Because my brain will let it be. It's annoying sometimes.

39:21

That's why it's important to us to know each other's characters.

39:25

Each of our characters. What about Fuji?

39:28

Fuji is the same. But he doesn't like to discuss his problems. He doesn't like it. So, even if we know from social media what problems he has... I think it's because he's the one who tells the story first. If he's already...

39:42

And you don't talk about it?

39:43

No.

39:44

Because if we go after him... The three of us, we all think that we're like... We're friends, but we're also distractions from the problems out there. What we hope for when the three of us are together is happiness. Don't worry about that. But if we really need input,

40:02

if we really need a story, we'll listen. We need to hear their stories. Usually, we will see first. Especially, if Erica wants to tell her story, she will tell it. So, I won't ask. Because if I ask, she will be upset. So, I will ask, can we talk about it?

40:19

But it's good to gather and talk with younger kids. It's all different topic.

40:26

It's different. It's different. Our characters are different. But we can connect. For me, because I have so many friends, I have so many friends. The only one who is missing, missing, missing, missing,

40:41

who is still holding on, and still wants to, not holding on to herself, but still wants to hold on, is Rachel Fuji. The age gap. He's gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone don't dislike him, but I don't think I'm suitable to play with him. But he's suitable to play with Erika. Okay. Because Fuji is always with Erika, so I started to talk to Fuji. We became friends.

41:17

I started to play and befriend him.

41:20

Is he suitable now?

41:21

We often debate. We often debate. We often... We often.... We often debate. We often debate. We often... We often...

41:26

Do you think Fuji is suitable for you?

41:28

But, the thing is, if Fuji and I are like... We fight, but... It's like we don't really fight. How is it? We don't use our feelings to fight, but we fight for real.

41:37

Huh?

41:38

We can fight until... We can get angry, and we can react. I'm I don't understand Fuji.

42:05

Why?

42:06

I don't know. I mean, I invited him to a podhub. I told him about it. Then, suddenly, people said that he was not at fault. I mean, I sometimes see it like this. Netizens are starting to mess up everything.

42:23

That's one of the things, when it was my case yesterday, I didn't want Rachel and Fuji to join, I was afraid they'd get bullied too. I mean, if my case got bullied, it's normal, because it's my fault, right? But if it happened to Rachel and Fuji,

42:36

it would be...

42:38

It would be terrible.

42:40

Did it happen?

42:41

It did. It really did. Because Rachel and Fuji still wanted to defend me. They still wanted to put their bodies on the line.

42:50

But it was hit.

42:51

Because Erica and I were not allowed to defend each other. Don't defend each other, you'll get hit too. But I was able to hold back what was being said. Compared than the people around me. I can't handle it when Erica is criticized. I can't handle it. I want to comment.

43:10

Based on what?

43:12

I don't know. I just don't accept it.

43:14

Based on what? Based on care? Based on love? Do you love her?

43:19

Maybe for Erica, I feel like... Even though I don't like Erika. I was surprised and disappointed with Erika. Now, there's a spiral. If you don't know what a spiral is like a water bomb. But no matter what, it's hard to go through it. So, because I was the one who accompanied him, I knew how he went through it,

43:53

what had happened, what he didn't read, and all that. So, seeing people commenting bad things without knowing what Erika had been through, I just couldn't, I just couldn't. And you were also bullied? I don't like it when people comment bad things without knowing what Erica has been through. I'm not strong enough. And you're not being criticized either. I'm not. The problem is, I'm not going through what Erica has been through.

44:12

Didn't you get criticized by your netizen friends when you defended Erica?

44:15

Of course I did. I did. But it's not as bad as Fuji. So, it was a great momentum, the opportunity for people who hate Fuji to use my case to hate him even more. That's what I'm really worried about.

44:34

Don't, don't, don't. Just shut up and say you don't know anything.

44:37

But Fuji is still there?

44:39

Still.

44:40

Actually, I feel sorry for Fuji. Fuji has never ignored people. I feel sorry for Fuji because he never really scolds anyone If he says anyone's name, he's afraid that people will take it But sometimes netizens compare him to someone else So people get mad at Fuji, even though Fuji is actually doing nothing. Fuji has already told his fans, please don't compare it to other people who are affected by Fuji.

45:15

But somehow maybe it's Fuji's haters.

45:18

No, people who compare it to Fuji and so on, netizens who compare people to people, because they can't compare themselves.

45:25

Right. If it's just the two of us, I'm already...

45:29

But I like your friendship. Because I have a context like this. If it's a matter of friends or family, we need to defend on public. Criticize on private.

45:42

Yes.

45:43

If it's with family, friends, and so on, we already know. Whatever you want, and so on, we defend on private. Yeah. If you're with your family, friends, and so on, you can do whatever you want, and we'll defend you in public. You can get angry and make a scene in private. And that's what you do, right? You make a scene and get angry with her in private. In public, you're on her side.

46:00

So, what happened yesterday, and what happened today, it's such a blessing.

46:05

Yeah, yeah. They are part of my family. Like, there's no difference between us.

46:13

I've watched your live video, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if it's live or in real life. I forgot where it was. You were sitting on the sofa. You were covering your stomach with your thighs. Or there were pillows and so on. The three of us.

46:31

So, they were just there to accompany you.

46:34

That was the first time I told them I was pregnant.

46:38

Oh, wow.

46:40

That's why there was Fuji crying. Rachel's face is frowning. Because Rachel is thinking far ahead, what will Erica do? Because she's not being helped, she's going back and forth.

46:59

Because it's like, since I was little, me and my siblings, I also have siblings So, the most fatal thing for me is Don't get married before you're old Because it's not about... We're talking about the hujat, but the burden

47:20

Like... What...

47:23

Getting pregnant is not easy I think it's worse. Yeah, I'm happy now. Very happy.

47:47

Don't make me cry again. No, but I'm happy. When we met yesterday, I was happy.

47:51

Happy, very happy. My daughter is cute, handsome, smart.

47:55

Yeah, and she's very quiet.

47:57

Yeah.

47:58

Yeah.

47:59

Very quiet, seriously. I rarely see her. I rarely see her. I don't know if she's in the hospital or not.

48:04

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I was a very quiet kid. My daughter was cute, handsome, smart. Yes, and she was very quiet.

48:05

Yes, yes.

48:07

Very quiet, seriously. I rarely see a child like that.

48:11

Quiet.

48:12

Can be quiet like that.

48:14

If I'm not mistaken, at that time, in the month of... I was still... The phase in denial was actually me, right? Like, I still... I actually wanted to ask, how are you today? Do you want to close it?

48:28

Or do you want to tell the public? Actually, it was in my head. But I really remember when... On the first day, when he told me, I was just silent, didn't say anything.

48:40

I was still processing. When I went to his house, 5-6 months, I asked him, but do you love him? I mean, do you love him, the man in your stomach?

48:49

You asked that?

48:50

I asked that.

48:51

That's my question.

48:52

Why did you ask that? I mean, if you don't love him, you won't continue with him, right?

48:56

Because sometimes there are many... That's why it's just that. Okay, okay. That's what I was thinking. Because I think if he loves me, then we'll just let it go. Whatever happens in the future, we'll just fight. But does he love me? Then he said, surprisingly, I really love you.

49:16

That's the point where I... All in. Let's go. We've been fighting a lot. All in. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

49:45

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Oh yeah. What's the story? Grandpa and Grandma Jompo live in the same house. Not live in the same house, but they gather everyday. It's a comedy.

50:12

It's a comedy. It's a TV series. They talk about everything. The movie is just about Grandpa and Grandma Jompo talking. They talk about people, and what not. It's fun and it's comedic. You guys are like Fuji, you're always hitting on people. You guys are like that too. Sometimes, I felt sorry for him.

50:52

Because he's not free. He's like, whatever is wrong, whatever is really wrong. Until that time, there were people who commented on me Sometimes, there were people who commented on me They said, it's better if we're just the two of us

51:10

For example, I'm with Erika, I don't want to be alone

51:12

That's wrong

51:13

Sometimes, I reply to that Because, well, Uti is working So, please don't make it seem like we're against Fuji. But we're okay with it. We don't have a problem with it.

51:29

We're not being hated.

51:32

If I ask you, what does Fuji look like?

51:34

Fuji?

51:35

In your opinion.

51:39

He's the person who's imprisoned in his life, if I can give you an example. People think that he's lucky to have money, like, easy money. Like, famous. But I see him because we play together, he's just imprisoned. He's doing nothing wrong. I'm afraid of doing something wrong.

52:02

And he's... Without him realizing it, I talked to Rachel yesterday. I'm afraid of making mistakes. And she didn't realize it. I talked to Rachel yesterday. We took a group photo, I saw Fujii, I felt sorry for him. He's not happy, even though he's laughing. I felt sorry for him.

52:14

Why, Er?

52:15

He's not an introvert.

52:18

He's not? So, he's...

52:21

He's a person who likes to... He's a person who likes to argue. He likes to shout. I'm He likes to be unable to control his face. His speech.

52:48

But if I look at your friendship, you two, you like to advise him, you like to advise him, you don't have to care about this and that. You try that, Fuji.

52:58

Oh, it was actually Fuji who applied it the first time. He helped me to have the mindset of not listening. That's it. Whatever happens in people's minds, let it be in people's minds. The important thing is that we're not like that. That's what Fujii taught me.

53:16

You said that he still feels insecure.

53:19

Yes.

53:20

Of course, it's because... I mean, even though it's become a habit, because it's become a part of my life. But I can't not get hit. There's also the trauma. So, sometimes we...

53:37

And it doesn't stop, right?

53:39

No, it doesn't stop. People have told me to clarify. I've clarified, it's wrong. clarify, and I've clarified it. It's wrong. So, it's like, right, left, right, left, wrong. Even though I'm not doing anything.

53:51

I mean, if people get into trouble, everyone gets into trouble. You get into trouble, I get into trouble. Everybody gets into trouble. But at the moment, it stops, right?

54:01

Yeah.

54:02

But Fuji doesn't. But Fuji doesn't even have a problem. the moment it stopped, right? I don't know why. I once thought like this. Is it because Fuji has a big impact in social media? So people are eager to bring his name to get attention. Yes, like that. One example is, for example, there is an account commenting on one photo or another artist. Ah, beautiful Fuji.

54:42

That's actually really praise. But the purpose. It actually looks very praiseworthy, but the purpose is not to praise. The purpose is to make the person in the photo or even the reader, get angry with Fuji. So that's what keeps Fuji's haters growing.

54:58

That's what makes it grow and grow until now. So actually what made Fuji hated it's not actually Fuji's fans in my opinion but Fuji's haters are clinging to be fans then he commented on every post of other people Fuji Fuji Fuji

55:15

for example on Omdet cool too Fuji this is also Fuji well later Omdet will be caught like what is it? take care of your idol for example

55:24

even though he is not a fan of Fuji.

55:25

Because he feels disturbed, right?

55:27

Yes.

55:27

Fuji has fans, right?

55:29

Yes, he does.

55:31

He does?

55:31

He never bullies anyone. He just defends someone. Yes, he never bullies anyone.

55:40

Then psychologically, why do people say that? Have you ever thought about it?

55:46

I think it's actually a hater. If I'm not mistaken. The hater wants to praise.

55:52

But if you say... Hate people. But if we say that he's never done anything, he's never done anything, he's a hater. It's weird, right? There are haters everywhere.

56:01

In my opinion, it's a threat to unemployment. I think it's bullying. We can see that bullying happens at school, at work. If it's real, and we enjoy it, we shouldn't... We enjoy it when we see comments from people saying bad things. Sometimes we laugh at funny things. They say we're funny physically. comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, comment, see it like... No, you...

56:48

Slowly you become broken inside, you know? Do you understand?

56:49

Because this kid is still young, Om. Still very young. But he has to fight against... Not fight against the netizen, but he fights against himself to stay alive. And actually, Fuji is now feeling the fame because of his brother, right?

57:12

Where he doesn't want to...

57:15

It's been a long time since we talked about fame because of his brother, right?

57:20

Yes, but I mean, it's not something he planned. Like, if Erick is casting everywhere, if I really wanted to be an influencer back then... But that's not what he planned. He's casting for many places. I wanted to be an influencer.

57:29

So, you think it's someone else's fault?

57:31

Not someone else's fault. Because he suddenly got into it, Fuji didn't have the mental strength. So, I gave him the role because he didn't do it step by step. We do it step by step. From the first 100k, 200k

57:46

He suddenly jipped

57:48

So he's like Suddenly from a normal life Alhamdulillah, it's his fortune But the haters Actually, I was surprised And I salute

58:00

With his short Famous and long His journey He can stay He was so famous and had a long career. He could stay. He didn't leave anyone out. I think that was a great thing for Fuji.

58:15

If it was me, I would have been mad. He never got mad.

58:22

Not on social media. He was afraid. He's afraid, Om. He's afraid of everything. He's afraid of making people... How do I say this? Meeting people... If he's on a podcast with someone,

58:38

he's afraid that his words will be offended by someone, even though he's not. Or if he meets someone, he always thinks, I'm We invited him to Potok, and he got it. I don't understand.

59:05

But, you know, the netizens were attacked.

59:11

Yes, but if we want to say to control them, to stop, it's impossible. We can only ask for a strong O.T. to be run. It has to be run. If he is said to have no effort to be liked by netizens, it's impossible. She's really trying. One of the things is, she has won awards several times. By the way, if people say she's only famous because of,

59:35

sorry, I'm a latecomer. She won a lot of awards. That's one of her examples, one of his ways to show, I can, I can, I can be what you want. Be the motivation. But it's still not enough.

59:54

The basics are just haters.

59:57

And Fuji also need to understand that he's the main attention.

1:00:01

Fuji even understood that they were looking for a profit.

1:00:11

So, I was like, if they get their reward from that, then it's fine. And how do you support them? Support her?

1:00:13

I don't discuss that.

1:00:15

You don't discuss that?

1:00:16

I don't tell them. If I know that someone is commenting something, I just let them know.

1:00:23

So, if you come to meet them, just make everybody happy?

1:00:28

Yes, because we're all playing social media. So, we all know what's going viral. And they know, right? Fuji is being praised, or I'm being praised. So, sometimes we just wait for someone to say it first. We just discuss it when person who speaks first. We just wait for the person who speaks first, then we discuss.

1:00:47

Okay. Do people have a point where when the context of haters say something, we don't really care, but there's a point when it's very sensitive when people say that. Do you have that?

1:01:04

I...

1:01:06

It's okay if you don't want to answer. I don't want to invite them to attack me there. So, if you don't want to answer...

1:01:14

If you want to know my weakness, hmm...

1:01:19

it's about my divorce.

1:01:24

But it's been a long time. about my divorce maybe but isn't that long ago?

1:01:26

but if you think about it, sometimes there's a bit of it but actually I'm sensitive but sometimes I just joke around I just just let my heart take it

1:01:44

like for example, it it hurts a lot, we just make fun of it, make jokes. Like, for example, like, like, for example, make it funny,

1:01:58

so that it doesn't make me sad. So, we just make it funny. Sometimes, Erica also likes to joke. For example, I say this. You're not sorry for me, right? I'm pregnant. I like to say that.

1:02:13

Sometimes Erika is like, I haven't even been pregnant yet.

1:02:17

So we've been pointed out.

1:02:19

We've been pointed out. We're kidding, even though... Sometimes if you take it seriously, the words hurt. But because we joke around every day, so we can make our hearts stronger, so we don't...

1:02:33

So, we just let it go, we just let it go, we just turn it around. What do people say? For example, there's someone who said, for example, what is it?

1:02:44

What do people say? For example, physical things. Physical? For example, someone said something about me, like... Like what?

1:02:45

Like, what was it? Physical, right?

1:02:47

Physical?

1:02:48

For example, for example.

1:02:49

It's different.

1:02:51

Prone and, for example, the body is already loose. Like that. Sometimes I make it up. Making jokes.

1:02:59

With you being loose.

1:03:00

Being loose.

1:03:02

Yeah, long story. But until this stage, Rachel especially, if I still learn, Rachel has to go through that first, Om. Like, it's like being hit first, because of your mental breakdown, you can be like this now. Joking like this.

1:03:23

Have you been able to? Not yet. Not it? Not yet. Not yet?

1:03:26

I just started. I just started.

1:03:29

I'm still a beginner. But I've been training you. I've been training you.

1:03:34

You've been saying that.

1:03:35

Yes.

1:03:37

Do you agree with what the netizens say? That it's a public figure's risk.

1:03:44

I agree. You figure. I agree.

1:03:46

I agree. But if you ask whether the mental is strong or not, it turns out that no one is ever ready to be at this point. The scale, Om Dede. When Erika's scale,

1:04:02

even though we've told Erika, what size will her head be? I mean, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I don always good. Good. I don't really care what people say about me.

1:05:07

I don't really care what people say about me. I don't really care what people say about me.

1:05:18

I don't really care what people say about me. I don't care what people say about me. Because, one, what people say doesn't change me. Right? Two, I have to care about people who say things say things that I don't know. It won't change my life. It won't make me happier.

1:05:50

It won't make me sad. It won't make me feel that way. For me, people who say things like that, with their accounts, Bunga075431, I have a 075431 account. That means she is hiding her own problems. And then basically, based on psychology, if someone can say that, or say it harshly, or with a bad intention to other people,

1:06:20

I am sure that she has a lot of problems in her life. And if I want to compare with all of them, if you say something about me as bad as you can, I'm sure that my life is much happier than theirs. Why? I'm not saying that happiness has many definitions. They will say, oh, happiness is like this, like this, like this, and so on. No, I still have a job.

1:06:50

I still have a life. I still have a responsibility that I have to do. I still have children that I have to educate and so on. Compare to, have you ever seen there are people who, for example, after you have finished your work, and by chance the account account was the correct one, I looked at the account book,

1:07:08

and I was like, this is the account. Sorry. There was an account, and suddenly the quotes were religious verses. And the quotes were, the quotes were,

1:07:20

wow, it looks like a good person. This is actually the sick person, not me. I'm the biggest problem. But, I'm like this. If we look at the account, if we post a photo, I'm sure there are a lot of people who are praising it. But our mind is stuck with one person. And I think that's the problem. I think that's the problem.

1:07:37

I think that's the problem. I think that when we look at the account, when we post a photo, I'm sure there are a lot of people who praise it. But our mind is stuck with one person who said that to us. When someone said that to us, we are stuck with that. And scientifically, our brain doesn't...

1:08:01

Our brain only lasts 90 seconds to think about such things. So if you just let it be, it will just disappear by itself. And I guarantee, I guarantee 1000% I guarantee, they are not as happy as I am. I dare to guarantee that. So, I'm not sure. I'm more worried about my friends here.

1:08:33

But they love to know you.

1:08:35

Of course, if it's not SP2. There's a contract if it's not SP2.

1:08:44

Why? There's no cheating. If there is, we'll be surprised. Yes. I'm like, what do you expect me to do? But really, Om Dede, it's okay. I'm not afraid of anything.

1:08:46

I'm not afraid of anything.

1:08:48

I'm not afraid of anything. I'm not afraid of anything. I'm not afraid of anything. I said, ìItís okay, but why is it okay?î And then I asked, ìWhat do you expect me to do?î

1:09:08

But really, Om Dede, itís okay?

1:09:10

Iím okay. Iím okay. I mean, my problem with my ex-wife is that we are good to each other. Many people can be a mess, but we are good to each other. I still consider her my sister, and she her as my sister. I still think of her as my brother. Compared to Kacau and Parah, I feel that when people make mistakes, they are like me.

1:09:37

Because we are as an adult taking decisions, very thoughtful decisions for our happiness. I mean, you have a lot of experiences and this year, there are a lot of divorces in Indonesia. Do you still believe in marriage?

1:10:10

I think, again, it depends on how old you are.

1:10:18

How old are you?

1:10:21

Let's go back to the question. Besides asking, I'm going to answer it simply. At my age, I remember that next year I will be 50 years old. Okay. So, I was too tired to restart everything. I started to get to know people again. I started to date again. I got to know my parents again. I got to know my parents again. But my father passed away. I have to introduce Aska again. I think I'm too tired for that.

1:11:19

But I don't disbelieve in the marriage itself. Because there's proof. I mean, there are people who can marry for the rest of their lives. The problem is, we don't know if the person who marries for the rest of their lives is resilient or resistant. We never know. Because there are people who are resistant.

1:11:43

But if you ask me, do I still believe in marriage? Yes, I do believe in marriage. I do believe in marriage. Will I do that again? Now that's another thing. Because in my opinion, I'm this old now. How long have we been dating? 3 years, 53 years, 55 years of marriage. So tiring.

1:12:10

I think there are still many other ways. In my opinion. But how old are you? Sorry, I'm not polite. I'm asking a girl my age.

1:12:22

Polite, polite.

1:12:23

Polite, okay. How old are you? 30. Are you going to get married again?

1:12:30

Actually, that's something I'm still looking for.

1:12:36

But, can I ask you something? Are you happy being single?

1:12:40

I'm confused.

1:12:44

I like the butterfly era. But you can't compare the butterfly era with marriage. That's right. That's why I want to know. I mean, sometimes, is there any role? Is there any role in marriage? Because my mom is divorced.

1:13:04

I'm divorced. my friends are divorced too So, like I want to know, are we, am I Because when I was young, my dreams I became a housewife I really want to get married

1:13:16

I was married to Paul, I got married at the age of 20

1:13:18

2

1:13:20

10

1:13:22

20

1:13:24

Then When I got divorced, okay. I was like, okay. I was like, okay. I was like, okay. I was like, okay.

1:13:25

I was like, okay. I was like, okay. I was like, okay.

1:13:35

I was like, okay. Either it was Snow White, either it was... It was a watch by Rachel, from her age... How old was she?

1:13:48

From a young age?

1:13:49

Yes, yes, yes.

1:13:50

So, it was her dream.

1:13:52

Yes, that was it.

1:13:53

But let me give you a fact. Watching Snow White, what else? Cinderella, and everything. Why is there no sequel to that movie? They're divorced. I think. is sequel Maleficent to the big in sequel Boobar But we can't say that it happens to everyone. Life is a choice.

1:15:12

It can be happily ever after. There are photos of parents who... I'm Alzheimer's. Really? Is there a reason? You're lying. What?

1:15:45

What is it?

1:15:46

This is my joke.

1:15:47

It's dangerous if he doesn't laugh.

1:15:48

What is it?

1:15:49

If he laughs, it's not dangerous. When he doesn't laugh, it has to be edited.

1:15:51

No, it doesn't have to be edited.

1:15:52

Just beep.

1:15:53

Yes, yes. Just beep. Just beep. Just beep. Just beep. When she's not laughing, I have to edit it. No, you don't have to edit it. Just type it.

1:16:14

I don't understand it anymore.

1:16:16

You can continue. Maybe they're old enough to be together. I'm afraid of falling.

1:16:22

It's Not romantic.

1:16:29

If I say that, she'll think I'm wrong again. But do you believe that? What if I go back?

1:16:32

If I say that, what if I go back?

1:16:39

I think...

1:16:41

I can't...

1:16:43

I can't...

1:16:44

But if... I can't trust you anymore. I'm not supposed to say this, but if you ask me, we still love each other. Love can come in a different way. So, actually, not all... Have you ever seen a family that is being maintained, the children become messy because they see their parents constantly arguing. Can it be like that? So, it's hard. But deep down, are you sad?

1:17:23

If you say sad, of course, both of us are sad. It's been a very long time. Yes, both of us are sad. But the sadness is not as big as the hope and love that we give to each other that you have your own path, I have my own path, and we're gonna support each other till the end. Because we still... Sometimes, when we're told by netizens, when we meet, we laugh to ourselves.

1:18:00

It's like we don't have a problem, we're good, but you're looking for the problem. Yeah, right. You just have to find the problem.

1:18:05

Yes, that's right.

1:18:07

We're just fine. There's no problem. Just as an adult, I said earlier, you can just find the problem. So, sometimes, it's crazy to know them. What I hate the most is people who are just like a psychiatrist and psychologist.

1:18:23

Or an expressionist.. Or an expressionist.

1:18:25

Wow, an expressionist, boss.

1:18:27

That's legit.

1:18:28

Palamu, palamu, an expressionist.

1:18:30

That means it's a hoax.

1:18:32

You're no different than a star believer.

1:18:36

I don't know, I mean.

1:18:39

So you can't judge like that, in my opinion. But you know what, for me, this conversation is supposed to be, I am very happy with Erika. Despite on... all the problems that happened yesterday and so on. But I think you'll be a good mother. Yeah. Will do. And I think you've enjoyed it.

1:18:58

Yeah. I've really enjoyed it.

1:19:00

But Erika, I want to ask you one thing.

1:19:02

Life has to change. mother. And I think you've enjoyed it. Yes, yes. I've really enjoyed it.

1:19:07

But Rika, I want to ask you something. Yes.

1:19:10

So, life has to change, right?

1:19:11

Yes, it has.

1:19:12

How was it?

1:19:13

Surprisingly, I wasn't surprised. You weren't surprised?

1:19:18

I wasn't surprised. It was more like, you asked me if I was a baby blues singer. I even asked you how you feel about it.

1:19:28

Because I'm so happy and enjoy taking care of my child. Okay.

1:19:29

So, I really enjoy every second of it. What changes it brings. Like now, I'm so open to people to see the changes in Baby Andu.

1:19:43

I really enjoy it.

1:19:45

If you have a life rhythm, you have to change too. You can't be a drummer.

1:19:52

Well, maybe.

1:19:53

But I mean, you have to be very strict.

1:19:56

Yes, yes.

1:19:57

Alcohol, drugs, and so on.

1:19:59

Yes, yes. Because now, it's more important, which one is the priority? If you say, will you change to not party anymore? I can answer, no. Will you not socialize or not work anymore?

1:20:15

Maybe now I don't work anymore. I mean, not as an activity like I used to play movies. Now I don't accept it. So I'm focusing on...

1:20:25

Sorry, why? Because movies take a long time to go? To be honest, since I was born, I've had a lot of movie offers.

1:20:36

But I think I want to...

1:20:39

You don't know yourself.

1:20:42

And enjoy motherhood too. Yes, I think... To see your child grow up. I'm enjoying motherhood. Yeah. I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:20:46

I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:20:47

Yeah. I'm enjoying motherhood. Yeah. I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:20:51

Yeah.

1:20:52

I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:20:53

Yeah.

1:20:54

I'm enjoying motherhood. Yeah. I'm enjoying motherhood. Yeah.

1:20:58

I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:20:59

Yeah.

1:21:00

I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:21:01

Yeah.

1:21:02

I'm enjoying motherhood.

1:21:03

Yeah. So, you're enjoying it? Yes. And I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it. I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it. I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it. I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it. I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it. I'm not sure if I'm enjoying it.

1:21:10

I'm not sure if I're enjoying it?

1:21:27

Yes. So, if you ask me, do I have any regrets?

1:21:36

Yes, you do. Regrets are more like my mistakes.

1:21:41

Okay, the incident.

1:21:43

The incident.

1:21:44

But not the babyunya. Oke. Peristiwanya ya. Peristiwanya. Peristiwanya ya. But not the baby itself.

1:21:46

Yes.

1:21:47

Lu udah kepikiran, ini sensitif sih. Tapi lu udah, gue sempet tanya juga, lu udah kepikiran gak how to explain this to him?

1:21:55

Oh, pasti. Aku harus ngeliat dulu bagaimana cara dia berfikir dulu, Om. Because I can't say, at this age, I will tell you no. Because there are smart kids before their time, they can think, they can feel, they can start asking questions. When they start asking questions, and I think their thinking is already smart, maybe I will shake their hand a little bit.

1:22:22

Okay. But I'm very happy. Sorry, I said it wrong.

1:22:25

When she grows up, she will find her own way.

1:22:30

So, that's it.

1:22:32

But Erika, I have a sensitive question.

1:22:35

Yes, go ahead.

1:22:36

Are you sure this is not Aloy's child?

1:22:38

Because of the first conversation.

1:22:41

This is a fun fact.

1:22:44

Maybe many people don't know. I'm I was surprised, but I just let it go.

1:23:07

It's okay.

1:23:08

Maybe, a baby can't lie. Yesterday, he was comfortable being hugged by his dad. Many people said, why is Endu so comfortable? Then, his dad said, you stay here with him.

1:23:21

Many people commented,

1:23:22

Sir,

1:23:23

question mark, he's a bit stiff. Om, banyak yang komen, Om, tanda-tanda-tanda-tanda, yang kakung. Orang maminya aja manggil Om, kok anaknya manggil Om juga. Endu bersama kakungnya. Lucu-lucu. Aku, ya.

1:23:39

Tapi I'm happy you're happy.

1:23:42

Thank you ya Om ya. Udah lewat semua juga ya. But I'm happy you're happy. Thank you, Om. It's all over now. It's all over now. I just have to go.

1:23:47

And this Close the Door is one of my places to...

1:23:54

Yeah, but thank you. Thank you for trusting me.

1:23:56

Yeah, I'm the one who should thank you.

1:23:57

Thank you for trusting me.

1:23:58

You're already a media.

1:24:00

If they told me at the beginning, I would have been surprised.

1:24:03

Yeah. We don't have a podcast purpose. I'm just kidding. There will be a guest star there. Let's do a podcast.

1:24:30

No, no, no.

1:24:32

There are reasons.

1:24:34

There are reasons. But the funniest thing is, there are reasons. Then I said, when it's ready, we'll talk again.î

1:24:45

ìWhen is the baby due?î ìI think next week.î ìNow!î But you know what? When you came, you coveredÖ Because your body didnít change.

1:25:00

So, you wore a jacket. I didnít know how big it was.

1:25:04

All my friends, too. He was one of the ones who went to hang out with me. None of them noticed.

1:25:14

Yeah, that's why. And he didn't have any cellulite on his body.

1:25:18

No stretch marks.

1:25:20

No stretch marks.

1:25:22

Crazy.

1:25:23

Yeah, it's a blessing. But yeah. I mean, all the consequences that I have to go through now, actually God has made it easier for me. Even though there are people who say that the blessings of pregnancy are taken away. That's why I can't feel this or that. But what I feel is that even until Endu was born, I felt that he understood me. From the moment he was born until he was born, he understood me.

1:25:54

Until now, if I look at it, he's still quiet. Yesterday I talked to the one who helped me take care of him. He told me, Siapa yang bantuin jaga itu? Yang bantuin jaga. Dia bilang sama gua, Om, ini ditepok-tepok tidur.

1:26:06

Iya.

1:26:07

Dan dia bisa tidur di sampingnya. Dia diem.

1:26:10

Iya.

1:26:11

Karena cuma digini-giniin aja tidur, Om. Nggak seperti bayi yang harus...

1:26:15

Yang nangis-nangis dan sebagainya.

1:26:18

Kayak ngerti, ngertiin situasinya. Well, okay then. Thank you for coming. Thank you so much. You don't have a problem with me, right?

1:26:26

Huh? You don't have a problem with me, right?

1:26:28

I'm Om Didi, I don't have a problem with me.

1:26:31

No, you have a problem with Soto Indonesia.

1:26:33

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry.

1:26:35

Erika, anyway, last one.

1:26:37

You're getting married, right?

1:26:39

Yeah, just pray for it. Have you prepared the wedding date? Not yet. Okay, well, hopefully. If it's possible, I'll invite you.

1:26:55

Yeah, yeah, I will do.

1:26:56

Thank you. Salam buat semuanya. And when I say you're a good mom, I saw yesterday, even though it was only for a day, I can see that you love him very much. I hope when he grows up, he knows how much his mom loves him. And then he loves you back.

1:27:17

Because I think, a baby is born with a lot of problems. And when his mom can fight for her child, children are easy. Children don't think about any problems. What they think is that there is someone who loves them in any situation. Done. As simple as that. Let's close this.

1:27:39

Let's close this.

1:27:40

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