RESBOB MAU SIKAT UANG DONASI SUMATERA😡 NIH GUE BONGKAR‼️- BIGMO

If you're right, when he talked about Sundanese people and stuff, and said that they were Vikings and stuff, do you think he really realized that he was talking about that?

I think he didn't get to the SDM.

And you said he borrowed the money?

Yeah, he borrowed it. Maybe you can comment if you've ever been borrowed money from Rezbob. That's the most foolish comment. The comment is, I'm a victim of Rezbob. That's the most foolish comment. The comment is, I'm a victim of Resbob. Or he tried to borrow money from you. I just got the fund for Sumatra.

185 million. He said, Jana called me, let's split it in two. 30 million for Sumatra, and 150 for you and me.

5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

And close the door.

Big Mo.

Yes, sir. On that.

So we don't get stressed. Our conversation will be stressful.

It's tense. It's tense. For Roko, right? It's easy for Roko.

Your brother was arrested, right?

They said so. I don't know. I've lost contact with him. From the previous case.

Which case?

The one with Celebgram.

But you were also involved.

I was involved in this case. That's why I haven't been in contact with them since. So I've cut off contact. Our agency is different. Oh, the cut off contact. Our agency is different.

Oh, the agency is different?

The agency is different.

So, the case of Celebgram is not over yet?

Not over yet. It's still going on. It's not over yet. We've made a new one. So...

But I'm asking as a person. In the case of Celebgram,

do you think you're wrong in the case of the celebrity? I think I can end it more maximally. So when it's like that, I should end the stream. Okay. But that's no brief, out of control. Yes, it's no brief and out of control. Maybe the action I can do after the speech,

I can end the stream right away, I can cut it.

Okay.

But of course, the race with the clipper, I'm live, I'm on and cut it. Okay. But of course, the race with Clipper, I was live, I was immediately screen recorded. He said that, the stream is not finished, the stream is still running, immediately posted to TikTok.

So, what he means is that he's the one who talks, right?

Yes.

Well, then you broke up.

Break up.

Like literally broke up?

Literally broke up. What do you mean by breaking up? We lost contact. We didn't contact each other. At all? At all. How long was that? 2-3 months. When we went to Bar Eskrim, we were in different vehicles, different hosts, different times.

So you didn't talk to Pak San when you met him?

I never met him. Except when we were called to Bar Eskrim.

Because of the case at that time?

Yes.

Okay.

I'm curious. This is your brother, right? The latest news is that he was arrested in Surabaya, right?

East Java.

East Java, brought to Jakarta. In my opinion, he wasn't arrested by the police, right? He was secured. Because if not, it's really dangerous. His position is even in the house.

Even in the house, but I'm also confused. What kind of house is that? Because I don't have a house. So when I saw the video, I didn't know. Maybe it's a new Wikipedia page or something. I don't know whose house it is. Because I don't live in a house either.

So he doesn't live there, actually?

I don't even know where he lives. But is it true that he's a Gurdwara? Maybe it's true. Maybe if it's in Surabaya. I only know that he studied in Surabaya. But I never know the cost there.

You really don't know anything about him?

Nope. The last one, he chatted me. Imagine he's in this viral case. He chatted me in the afternoon. Screenshot proof of my transfer to my mother, 10 million. For? I gave my mom 10 million. For the caption, and imagine you're in a case. And you chat to your brother, screenshot your brother to your mom,

with the caption, if I were you, I'd be embarrassed. Just transfer this much. Permission. Meanwhile, he didn't give my mom money. I mean, 10 million, even though it's small,

I think it's big. I mean, from a mother's point of view. I mean, this is in the middle of the case. In the middle of his case. This was two days ago. He DMed me in the afternoon, not via Instagram.

In the middle of his case.

I said, you're a jerk. I said, you're a jerk. I said, video clarification. The video clarification was also long, two days. Two or three days later, he made it. But I'm curious.

I want to know, if that time your case, not your case actually, the Timothy Ronald, remember? That's my speak up, right? I will join. But I didn't tell you.

I just told him. I'm jimming. He's jimming.

Timothy is not, it seems. Now maybe he's jimming. Timothy is not. He's probably in the gym now. I think Timothy is a rage baiter. He's a rage baiter. He said his team wanted to build a gym. He's just promoting cat's paw.

I feel like DTK never... Every time I stream, I never brief. And we never have a purpose to black internet or what we say that is viral. It's a flow and I want to know the real response, the response about the gym.

Yes, I mean, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about Timothy. At that time, he was like that. For me, he was a rage bait. And now he said he wants to make a gym too. How? Usually people promote it doing different things. Even the cat's paw is a promo. But the gym is good for your health. Yeah, but people are stupid.

But my question is not about that. My question is, if I think that Timothy is a race bait, what is this race pop? Because it's a bit stupid if it's ragebait. If Timothy ragebait, maybe in my opinion, maybe the way he promotes it,

or maybe the way he talks. But if it's Razeboop, what happens?

It's different. Because I'm big with him. And we have the same DNA. So I know his psychology behind doing it. If ragebait, there's still the business aspect. Which is, I want to find traffic, and for business or for money, whatever it is, it's a business. There's still a business base.

Whereas for him, it's as simple as this. He's big, right? Imagine I'm big in America, he's big in the US, and his turnover is bigger in the US. Compared to me in America. How? He's big in the US. And his income is bigger than my income in the US. How come?

Because he has a boring mindset. His mindset is to be boring. So, he was spoiled since he was a kid. He was bored and his income was far. Because he had the most money, he didn't dare to criticize him. My father fell. He still had that mindset, but he didn't have money.

When he was streaming, I knew that he was in front of his minions. His friends thought he was great because he was viral. So, they wouldn't dare to criticize him. And because he was a boss, he had to make me look cool. So, it wasn't rage-bait.

It's not rage-bait.

It's just that his friends always wanted to look cool. For example, look at my Rolex watch. He wants to look cool. In his opinion, I think, his case is, I'm cool if I say this football team and this person. And he said it like that, he said it like that.

He just wants to be cool.

But it's recorded, right?

It's recorded. He didn't get there. His SDM didn't get there.

Damn!

His SDM didn't get there. His SDM didn't get there. I was a streamer when I was in elementary school. I streamed because I wanted to earn money and create something. If he was a streamer, he could ask people, -"What are you doing?" I became a streamer.

Can I interrupt you for a moment? Can I ask you something? In your opinion, you once complained about your Sundanese friends. What's the difference between you doing this and him doing that?

The difference is, I don't say it. I say, in my experience, people from that area, in my life, the situation is like this. But I say, maybe this is not all. Maybe there are some Oknum that I know. You're talking about that? Yes, maybe some of these are Oknum that I know. You're talking about some people? I'm talking about some people I know.

Okay. Are there any people you know?

No, I'm talking about some people I know. It just so happens that's how my life is. In my experience. And I'm still a minor. Just a coincidence. What about him?

He's just generalizing. And he's not talking about his personality. He talks about pure hate.

But do you know him from the beginning? Does he have that kind of experience?

I know him from the beginning, but I'm not as big as him. Because I'm not as big as him. So I don't know about his life experience. I think it's the same. I think there are also some people from his experience who are like that. And then he generalizes.

But the message is...

The message.

The message.

The message can be better.

Well, you... You didn't contact him during the last time he was in trouble.

I didn't contact him. Suddenly at 12 o'clock, I said I was just trying to apologize to Daus. But he was just taking screenshots of the evidence. I was so embarrassed. I was so mad. I mean, he didn't even give me any money.

He kept saying he didn't give me any money because he didn't have any. But he started streaming and he had money. So I asked him, did Daus give you any money? He said, no, it's just Rp. 250,000. I mean, he took screenshots of the evidence. It's not easy to make 50.000 subscribers. He took a screenshot and then he blamed me for giving him that much.

How did your mom react when she saw you and your brother were not getting along? I saw your mom because she likes to watch your stream.

Yeah, my mom. I told her that my mom is actually really funny. But I don't know. Maybe because she spends more time with my brother, she loves him more. I don't know. Maybe because he spends more time with my brother, he loves him more. I don't know. But my brother was defended. I mean, this is what he said in the chat. Help your brother. Help Sapu. Help him.

Do you want to help Sapu?

I said it in my video. I said he still has to be responsible for what he did. Because he needs to be slapped. I think as my brother, I want him to change. Sometimes helping people, helping people's kindness, is not helping.

Let him help himself.

Yes, to be aware.

Yes, I think this is really good for him.

And if you say it like this, it means that this is actually what we don't know, what the society doesn't know, that basically, Rez Bob, in his internal, he often does things like this.

I think the internal people, no one is surprised. No one is surprised. No one is surprised. People who really know him, they must be like,

if you hear this, oh my God, why in front of the camera? Maybe the surprise is, how crazy is that, he even said it in front of the camera. But if behind the camera, I'm not surprised. So, do you often argue with him?

Often. He's like that. Because from the beginning, I streamed him. And from the beginning, I said, you're a 25-year-old, unemployed, unemployed, 25. Because it's true, I can't not work. I asked him to stream a year ago.

Before I had anything who watch it. And he didn't believe it. But now, he's like, -"My brother has this kind of money, I want to do it." I told him from the beginning, so that he can change. Maybe that's why he's mad at me. That's why he has this boredom syndrome. Because he feels like,

-"Why is my brother better?" Subconsciously.

How did he have this boredom syndrome if your father had passed away, where did he get the money from? He still... for example, I gave him money or he asked for the money. You gave him money?

Yes. I never did it again. But I mean, I gave him money once. Then he borrowed it from there and there. I often chat with his friends, his friends who are trainers, his friends.

He borrowed it from there and there?

Borrowed money, borrowed too. This Rez Bobi borrowed? I borrowed it from Bob. Yeah, and it's already viral on Twitter. And when I asked him, he said, what's up, set the music. I was streaming, I asked him, Bob, please reply to your chat. Set the music first. I said, what do I pay the debt?

The payment is not enough.

It hurts, bro.

No, it hurts. This character is a fraud. The character is a fraud. Your brother is a lot. Your brother will be hurt if he's like that. It's a lot. He and I both like money. But I can sit and I'm like, I work and I'm patient and I'm shy. And I'll just do business first.

If he wants money, the easiest and the most instant way is what? But it's wrong.

But the easiest and the most instant way, if he does that, he knows the risk. If you're in debt, you're making people suffer. It hurts. It hurts.

He's already been targeted. He doesn't care about his image.

He doesn't care?

He doesn't care. That's it. Bob, pay your debt. What about my mom, Bob? This and that.

Set the music.

How can you set the music when someone is asking for money?

Wow, I'm tired.

In my opinion, this is God for this. But for this, because of this, I got a rainbow yesterday. When I was streaming, I broke 125,000 viewers. That's my top 1 record. Because of you? He said, 5,000 viewers, 120,000 Indonesian people are looking for a Rez Bob. He said, I don't know where my brother is.

If your mother sees a case like this, she will contact you to help Breast Pop?

Yes, she asked for help. She asked for my help. If I saved her, of course. I would definitely take my mom to a hotel or somewhere.

But your mom was also threatened, right?

Threatened. I was threatened. We were all doxxed. One family.

How did it go? What did you get threatened with?

I don't read comments anymore. But why were you the one who's being threatened? Because Breast Pop has a comparison. The one who watched my live stream is 125k. The comment on his Instagram is 138k.

That's a lot.

How can I not be threatened? They're already at their maximum. They already hate Breast Pop. They already made a clip. They need another Samsak. His mom, my dad.

But I mean, if you... I want to know, what do you get?

I don't get anything. Where are you? I just hit you. Where are you? Where's your apartment?

You're the one who's looking for it?

Yes.

You're clarifying, right? But if you don't have a problem...

I've clarified, but... when people are angry, it doesn't matter what you say. People are mad, they need punching back. What about your mom? My mom is the same. People are mad, we punch back their mom. I understand you guys. Even though I can't allow doxxing, I can only protect my mom.

That's all I can do.

But do you know where she ran off to?

No, I don't know. People think I know where she hid. I don't know. People think I know where he is hiding. I don't know.

Not at all?

No, I don't know.

You don't know or you don't want to know?

I don't know, I don't want to know, I don't care. I just want him to change. I don't want him to be punished or anything. I don't care if my brother is being held later I'm definitely not comfortable, but I want him to change as a human Don't feel brother

You tell me If from your story like this, it means Sorry I don't know the Rex Bob Even I'm honest, if you stream, I've seen it a few times But if I never knew the Rex Bob

Just be honest If you talk saying that, it means that it's very toxic.

It's very toxic. I told him, you're so bad at talking that you can't be touched. He can talk like this, but I can't, Dad. I swear, I didn't smoke. But I did. No, I didn't smoke. And you even saw him smoking. But he said, Dad, you don't trust me. I didn't smoke, but I did. No, I didn't smoke. And you even saw him smoking, but he was like,

Dad, you don't trust me. I didn't smoke, I swear.

Is that, is that, is that, by design?

No, I think the way he was raised, he was never criticized. He was never criticized, and he was never difficult. At that time, it was a Bosan syndrome. His character flow was like NPD. Like a pathological liar. He lied for no reason.

He always lied.

If he's a pathological liar, it's already hard.

It's hard. I told him that I don't trust him anymore. And he can... It's already so bad.

You mean... Sorry. Try again. You mean you were separated from him since you were a kid?

Yes. I... Maybe you can see it from the childhood. So, we've made a visa to America. We already have a ticket. We should leave for America in the evening. He prefers to play futsal.

And my mom had a hard time making the ticket, making the visa. Then I flew to America. I was in America for 7 years. My brother never got a visa. And there's nothing wrong with getting a visa. But I mean...

Maybe he was put in the military to change his life. It could be like that with your parents, right?

It could be. But that's when I asked who chose to go to the military, it was him.

He chose to go to the military.

But I was in 6th grade. Especially if you're a rich kid, you should go to private school. Especially at that time, my father was still alive. With his mindset, I want to be a coach. I want to be a coach. I remember he was wrong from the beginning.

You mean, from a young age?

From a young age. He has a life partner. To be an uncle to my children. I want to know him.

How did he get that flow? And then you said there are minions, and people like him.

Because they think this Reshbov is viral. They think this is great or prestige. Or money is prestige or great Even though the character is what makes it great Then there's the character, the money follows, the fame follows, the work follows While he skips all of this, he gets all of this

And he thinks that achievement is great, but it's not And he chooses his friends, like that he chooses minions If you don't, this person doesn't consider me as a boss, I don't want to accompany him. Oh, this person, yes man, this person, I'm funny, not funny, but I laugh. Well, it's good that I'm here, so my mind feels bored. Rather than working, I'd rather have this person laugh at me and make me great, boss, great, boss. How can it be like that?

I'm just working.

Wow, that's cool. Have you ever had a fight with him?

A physical fight. Never. I never left him alone. I'm not strong enough. He's the type of person who... You go to the gym, right? I saw your story. You wake up at 4 in the morning,

you're on fire. You're on fire, even though you're rich. He wakes up at 4 in the afternoon, the sun is gone. 4 in the afternoon? He wakes up at 4 PM, the sun is gone. He lives with her, wakes up at 4 PM, and she's like, go for food.

Nasi Padang, please. With filter and coffee. Okay, and then...

Did she ask you?

Yes, when I used to live with her. Okay, we eat like this. And then there's no, like, hey, let's find sweat. Hey, what are we doing? Or hey, this. or, you know, just chill. What's the ambition? The ambition is to be a boss as soon as possible.

And he will say, you're too American. I said, I haven't streamed for a year, I said, let's work. You're not grateful and you're too American.

Are you sure you're streaming?

I swear, it's all on stream. You watch my stream, a year ago, I swear, this is on all the streams. You watch my stream a year ago, there was him. He said, there's always a time. He's the type of person who, instead of working, I protect him with gratitude.

No, this is funny. It's hard for me to believe you.

It's hard, but there's proof.

But do you understand? I mean, it's hard for me to believe your words.

Do you understand what I mean? I understand. And if this is the reverse of the roles, he's sitting here, you won't believe what I'm saying. Because he's as sweet as he talks. So he can play with it? He can. He knows he's lying, but he sells it as if... No, Dad, the sun is not hot. He can lie to all his fans.

And he's very sure.

And he's sure that the sun is not hot. He's sure he could fool you that the sun is not hot. The sun is not hot? I said, it's impossible. It's impossible. Working doesn't always make money. It's impossible. Gym?

Jana is a guy. I said, let's go to the gym. I registered for the gym when I just returned to Indonesia. We went to the gym. I'm dizzy if my head doesn't hurt. You're a guy.

Jana is like a guy. Indonesia. That's what she said, manipulative. Manipulative. Okay. Mo, if you say she's very manipulative, how come your mom doesn't feel it?

My mom... Maybe if I position myself as my mom, even if she feels it, but I think she feels it more, but she's the child I'm carrying. It's impossible for the child I'm carrying to be that bad. It's impossible that my child is that bad.

But you're also a child. Your mom said that she loves you more than you do.

Yes, that's true. For example, every move I make, I'm reported. But I'm not the type of person who talks sweetly. I'm not a workaholic. I'm not the type of person who... ...instead of not looking bad, I'd rather not be a bad person. But for him, I want to do magic so that people think I'm really good.

Instead of correcting my character, he said, I'm really good, this and that. While I don't care if you think I'm bad or good. The important thing is I do what I think is right.

Okay. Why if you tell your story like that, what made him suddenly apologize yesterday?

Social demands.

And he's afraid, he's panicking. What made him suddenly apologize yesterday? Social demands.

He was scared, he panicked. But we should just let it go, maybe he really felt guilty. Or maybe he should feel guilty, hopefully he can still feel guilty.

Or maybe he doesn't feel guilty.

Maybe, that's possible too. But we should just let it go, I don't want to be too harsh on that. But, yeah, social demand, I think. Panic. People like that only care about themselves. About their own safety.

We all care about ourselves, but it's impossible to care about ourselves until we're single and talk shit about others. So that he can go viral or whatever.

Has he ever lied to you?

He lied, for example... For example, it's this time. Then I said, he said, Jan, I want to meet a friend first. I'll be back later. Dad, I'll be back.

Give me an hour. Two days, he didn't come home after that. No, not even didn't come home. Even suddenly he was in Surabaya, for example I was in Prokerto. I said, yes, I'll be back later tonight. I just met up in front. I went to Surabaya, then I met you. Where are you going? You don't answer me like this. Eh, you just come here, Jan.

No, it's really fun here. Without, without, without lifting.

No context.

Without lifting, sorry, just come here. Then I said, where are you going? See, it's complicated. Wow, he's so bad. Like a major flaw. Like the character is just flawed. Deeply flawed. I don't know. Psychological, moral, I don't know. But as basic as telling the truth, he's hard.

How can he live like that?

How can he live? He can't. He's still 25. How can he leave? As a 25-year-old man, you can't sustain a deep personal relationship with your best friend, your girlfriend, your brother, with anyone. He moved to a new person, then he moved to a new person, then to a new person.

It's a waste of time. Now it's just exploding. When I was in the car, I knew. I said, I'm big with this person, and I already know this character. And the funny thing is, the whole of Indonesia knows now. And I've been saying it since the beginning, what's changed is the character.

I'm not saying you're unemployed, because you don't have a Mercedes. I just want you to work. Your character, your way of speaking, it's already trusted.

So, if you're right, when he talked about Sundanese people, and said about Vikings, do you think he was aware that he was talking about that?

He...

Or did he feel that he can escape that?

I think his SDM didn't reach that level. But his SDM is so simple.

Viral?

Not even viral. I did this to make it cool. I think that's what made him like that.

Like a statue?

Yes, I think what he did was not a camera and an Indonesian was watching me, but my minion, I'm still cool, I still appear in front of my minion. I said this.

Just for that person? Yes, and after he said that, the minion said, I'm I don't want to be a snooze, I don't want to be a snooze Does this person take medicine? Who? I don't know If it's out of my consciousness, maybe I just took it So I don't realize

Expensive for him, expensive

You're crazy

Expensive he Maybe he's ***, I don't know Expensive if you take it

Okay, according do you think? He's caught.

He's changed. I hope he changes.

But from your story, why...

I hope he changes. And I don't want him to watch this or one day he sees the clip and he'll be like, my brother is like this. I'll tell him, bro, you need this.

So, this is a show?

Yes. Sometimes, helping people, I mean, helping people when they need it, is not really helping. If we help them, they don't learn on their own. I'll say, sorry, but as your brother, I have to do this. And maybe God's way of changing you, all of Indonesia must know. And maybe after this, you'll be like,

what am I doing? I'll just be honest. I'll just work at 25, instead of having to show people that I'm cool.

Mom, you, sorry, man. You, sorry, I have two questions. First, what's it like with your mom?

Do you have a problem with your mom? No, I never have a problem with my mom. I understand that maybe she doesn't speak well or sometimes she's arrogant. The person you want to win over is your own parents. They're sincere. That's never been asked.

So you don't have a problem with your mom?

No, I do all of this because I love my mom.

Okay, okay.

Do you and your mom still have a feeling of love and him or hate him? My brother? Of course I love him. I love him, but it's not a love problem. I'm sitting here, I see his character. I don't need to be a brother or a human being. And because I love him, I'm like, Oh, this is the character flow, let's change it first.

I mean, I don't need money. I never said he was lazy to work, I never said he was lazy to work, not that he was poor. He said he was a liar, not that he didn't have mercy.

Bro, I still don't understand. If he doesn't work, if he's still streaming a new show, you say he borrows the money?

Yes, he borrows it from his friends. If you've ever borrowed money from Resbob, the comment is the most foolish, not about W or anything. The comment is, I'm a victim of RazzBob, or he tried to borrow money from you. A lot, a lot. Wow.

A lot on Twitter, there's already a thread on Twitter, everything. And even like, not feeling guilty. I don't know, maybe my brother is a sociopath. Doesn't anyone feel guilty? No guilty conscience? I don't know, maybe he's a sociopath. Doesn't he feel guilty? If he does, he can continue to borrow money and continue to live his life,

laugh, and feel guilty. That's impossible. It's not good.

So he's just feeling scared this time.

He's just feeling scared this time. And it has to be like this for him to feel scared. Normal people are a a little bit, I feel guilty, afraid, anxious.

I was a little surprised when you said that he did it, one, not race bait.

I don't think he got there. His mind is there.

Yes, and two, not for virality, in your opinion. And third, he just wants to look cool in the minions. That's the lowest point, boss.

Imagine, he said this to the stream. I just made a donation for Sumatra, 185 million, live streamed. Tomorrow, my brother, without me chatting, he said, Do you know that money, Janna called me, I said, bro, let's split it in half.

Later 30 million for Sumatra, then 150, 150 for me and you.

Huh?

Live. I'll give you two. 30 million for Sumatra, and 150 for you and me. Huh? Live!

And after that, I knew again. The more I knew, the more I knew. He's watching this, and if you invite him here, he'll say, Uncle, that's all gimmick. You know that's gimmick.

But do you think that's gimmick?

No, even if it's gimmick, why would you lie about Sumatra's fund? That's really dangerous. Yeah, that's already immoral. Oh, yeah, that's right. And this is live. There's a video of you looking for him. He lied. He said, that's the most used money for Mercy. There won't be any for Sumatra.

I woke up and saw, Oh my God, my brother. I just went live yesterday. How come it's like this? It's a car. You didn't get hit, that's a good thing. I didn't get hit. Maybe if I was in a fight with his brother, I could report it.

But the speed of his name is so good. I was told to call him half-half. I blocked him. I didn't contact him. That's how it is. I heard your story. I'm not trying to be sympathetic, I'm not saying that I feel sorry for his brother, I'm just saying this as a younger brother perspective, not even not complaining. I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining.

I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining.

I hope he changes.

Has he ever told you his dreams? What are his dreams?

No, people don't have the fire. Are you confused? I'm confused. If my friend doesn't have a job or money, but he wakes up, I'll tell him to go to the gym.

I mean, you don't have to worry about it.

You don't have the fire. Have you ever met someone like that? You don't have the fire. I'm more confused. If you want to say that he's poor or something, how can you? So what's his life like? If he's not streaming, what's his life like? His life is hanging out, hanging out, drinking at night. And in front of him, at the age of 25, he just got back to college.

He's just in DO again.

Yeah, in DO.

Yeah, in DO. He's challenging people to come to his campus. He said, and he was 25 years old. So, he was 25 years old, hanging out with a senior, a senior who was 20 or 21 years old.

So, he was a senior.

And he felt bored. And maybe that's what you get from the gym, that's how he worked out. I don't know, I'm just trying to think of his logic.

His dopamine.

Yeah, he's like, okay, I feel like a boss today. If you're okay, I'm sweating, I've worked, then I've been shooting, then I've had a meeting. I'm already maximal as a man. But that's my logic. Why do you sit as a boss in front of a 20-year-old kid?

Hey, it's funny, Bob. Hahaha, you're cool, Bob. You're ready, Bob." And that's the same as... If I'm on McLaren, I feel like I'm cool, I'm a man. But he feels like his McLaren is praised by 20-year-old kids.

How does he make him praised by 20-year-old kids? What is he doing?

For example, you say that, you say, Oh, you're a big head like that. Then, hahaha. Then, maybe because I dared to prank you, other kids will see that I'm a prankster. I don't know, the SDM is so weird.

And I know that his reaction when he watched this, you're American, you're a soto. You're always talking about money, you're too worldly. You're arrogant. I can't be arrogant, but I can't lie. At least my words are being held.

If you're a pathological liar, you're tired. I'm tired. What if he was hit by Anik? Is he your friend in the car?

I don't know. But I'm just being careful. Because I know that maybe he's not in the car with this intention. But because he's already dynamic, his relationship has become a minion, or a yes man

He just should be like that He should be, if he's a friend of Suarez Eh, look, look, look You're offside, you're talking We're good, we're good If you're hungry, don't watch it

So it's already one frequency, bro

Already, eh, I think the issue is SDM Maybe the SDM factor too I think it's because of the high school Maybe it's because of the high school But I don't want to, do I have to admit that my brother is stupid? Who would admit that his brother is stupid? I'm the same age as him But if he's not stupid, what's the explanation?

That's how he is

What about you personally? What's your dream?

My dream is to be the number one streamer. Okay. After that, I should... I said this in the chat, if I'm as smart and hardworking and consistent as I am in 2029, I should be the number one streamer in 4 years

and the money game is over. Because I'm crazy about money. I'm traumatized by Hot Tumiskin. After that, in 2029, I was crazy, but I wanted to quit.

You wanted to quit?

I wanted to quit.

Oh, wow. What was it?

Because I felt that if I quit, I'm not the type of person who can retire on the beach.

What did you quit? DPR? DPRD?

Oh, RI. Go big or go home. Go big or go home. Go big or go home. I'm working. You already have everything. You don't need to do this. But you need to feel the work. At the end of the day, when you're in bed, you're like, I'm working.

You're interested in being a member of DPR RI? So you can help your brother if there's a problem.

Eh, excuse me. Anyone, Indonesian people. But, my success standard, I'm sorry. Yeah. So, you're in the party now? Not yet. Permission? No. Okay. That's the vision.

Sorry, I'm asking.

No problem. I'm sensitive. Do you have any trauma with the Boko case?

No.

That's why I said, in 2029, you haven't seen me get on the Rolls Royce, the money game hasn't ended able to think of money games. I haven't broken the money game.

So if you're rich, you'll have a lot of money.

Yeah, because after that, you'll end the game. No way.

No way. Corrupt people are rich, boss.

Yeah, maybe they feel less rich.

So you have to be really rich first.

I have to feel... I have to have it. I play the game to win the game. To win the game so I don't play the game anymore. Yes, I understand.

But why do you have to go to the government?

Because if it's not like that, how can I have an impact? Besides, how can I still have content?

What do you want to give an impact? At least to voice the aspirations of the people in Senayan. Besides, I will still be doing content. What do you want to give impact?

At least to voice the aspirations of the people in Senayan. I'm just a little bit of a campaign.

It's okay. I mean, what do you... If you turn on... What part is this? What is this?

My legislative... Honestly, I haven't been that detailed. But I said the principle... Because I will be streaming and every day without a script, at least I want you to have a trusted and 100% transparent figure. I represent my opinion and people's aspirations. Is it suitable?

It's great.

It's great. I think I can do it. I'm delusional.

No, you're not. It's just a dream and a goal that makes sense. If you think that with your dream and your brother like that, it's a hindrance?

It's a hindrance, but I've said it's like my father's case.

But you're getting more crazy because of your brother.

Right, but this is not an ideal way. And it's a hindrance. For example, from my father's case, my father is also in the middle of a trend. From my case, at least I will say this, Chad, I will not hide my flow.

I want to tell the Indonesian people, you can have a flow and character and history, and you can still represent the Indonesian people. I just realized, this monkey kid came here wearing batik,

why? He's going to be a thief.

Ezid!

I'm wearing a wisuda!

You're going to be a thief.

This is also a little bit of a campaign. A little bit of a campaign.

You're going to be a thief.

A little bit of a campaign. Why are you wearing batik? I was a bit of a mess. A bit of a mess. A bit of a mess. You finished your studies? I finished my studies.

What did you do?

I accompanied my girlfriend to her studies.

You accompanied your girlfriend to her studies.

I'm still a novice. I'm still a novice.

A novice. Yes.

That's crazy. Since when did you dream of being a talent?

Since...

I don't think so. I... Don't you see the DPR members are being bullied by the people?

I do. That's why it's my job to be a DPR member who is not being bullied or trusted. At least I'm authentic. I like just like figuring things out.

You like figuring things out or you like the thrill?

Two things can be true at once. Maybe in figuring things out, I get the thrill that I'm actually great at what I think. Or I can trust myself because today I can work and solve this problem.

But is that because you want to screw up because of your father too? Or not? No.

Because of my father, why?

Of course. Because of experience, for example, you know your father, I want't. Why? Because of my father? Of course. Because of my experience. If you know your father, you'd be like, I'm going to blame him now.

Oh, no. But from my father's experience, at least if I had a child, I wouldn't know how to be a good father 100%. But maybe I know the tips and tricks what not to do.

What not to do. Yeah. Yeah Yeah Bajar go to my genuinely from the bottom my heart go not something go not something go to put traffic the other scene is more the kid

The traffic Secara masalah can come on salami. I'm not a little masalani. Yeah, but with him, you're actually benefited too, bro.

If the problem is with him, and not with me? Yeah, of course. Because I get the spotlight, but I'm not the one who gets the cut. True. But from Ade, who wants his brother like that? I've said this, if he comes in, he comes in. He comes in. The calculation is. That's a good calculation, sir. Yes, but to calm my mind, I thought,

I will sleep in my apartment, I will sleep in my apartment, and every night I will feel lonely and guilty with you. And I will miss you. But I know this is the right thing to do. Sometimes the right thing to do.

You're lying. You're lying. I miss lying. What? I'm lying. I miss you. I miss you. I miss you. I've never met you. I miss you from Hong Kong.

I've met you. But I miss you. What do you miss? You just met me. You didn't even talk to me. You didn't even talk to me.

You're not in touch. Why do you miss me? I feel sorry for Iba. He feels guilty. But... Where does he feel guilty? I don't understand. I feel guilty. Maybe what I can criticize myself is if you're that great, you should be able to hypnotize your brother's mind to follow you. Or at least to not be like that. If I'm this great, how come my brother is still like that?

That means you're not that great to be a younger brother.

You know what will happen to you when you become a member of DPRK? Don't just take care of the people. You should take care of your brother.

Can you do that?

I would say, because my brother is like that, I hope the Indonesian people are not like that.

Easy.

You still have to choose me in 2029.

What is your promise for 2029?

I don't have a technical vision yet. I honestly haven't thought about it in detail. Because I'm still thinking about what I'm going to eat tomorrow. I'm still thinking about my streamer. What if I fail? How much money? But I'm playing this game to finish it.

So I don't have to else. Yes, business. What are you doing now? Not yet. I told my brother Timothy. He said, now it's time for you to make your streamer big first. Because once you're streamer number one, your money will be really low. I mean, the money to us will be really low. So he said, don't focus on the money yet. Focus on the long. You want the long money, not the fast money. Many people waste their fast money by lowering their brand value,

or get money here and there, so they can get money in a second. I said, I was really poor, as long as I can eat tomorrow, my siblings can eat, I'm okay, I haven't got a Mercedes yet. I'm 23.

Mercedes, if he's this, what's his name?

McLaren. McLaren, what kindaren? He gave me 2 years to own a McLaren.

I don't have a McLaren. It's okay. I don't have it.

People's McLaren, even your RS Bob's McLaren is praised at 20. People's McLaren is different.

Because my McLaren and I have a good body.

Easy. Easy. What I can say is, being rich is really good. Especially for a rich man who who are six-pack. You know?

You're right.

I'm just kidding.

So, being rich is really good.

Especially for the rich who are healthy. Imagine you're energetic without going to the gym. Gym can only make you better. You're more energetic, you're more confident. People see you as a better person. But being rich and smart is also important.

It has to be balanced. It should be with this gym that improves all aspects of your life. I'm a patent, right?

Patent.

Well, being rich is in the old days.

I said, maybe that's a calming word. And it's true, if you're poor, it's better to be poor but in shape, or rich but fat, it's better to be poor but in shape, or rich but fat, it's better to be rich but fat. But why not, when you're rich, you're handsome and six-pack.

The mindset shouldn't be too much, but maximizing.

Full, of course.

Full.

Everything.

Everything. Everything. It's the same,... I see that young people who are rich too fast, they skip the character flow. Like when you're poor, you learn to be sad, not comfortable being poor,

hold on to hunger, work hard, etc. After that, you have to learn to work with people, compromise with people. There are many character learning from the poor. Meanwhile, many rich people, or young rich people,

they skip all all that. Skip all the important lessons you learn as a character, as a man, as a human. And you're rich.

Especially if you're rich but not six-pack. A girl can only get it by looking at her car and her clearance, not her body.

Or maybe it can be a trick. Now there's a phenomenon, tricking girls to eat. I've been honest, I've been telling you, if I tell myself, I've also borrowed 70 million

to buy a PC for streaming. From a girl. But it's not a loan, right? Lend. Lend. I'll pay you first, Bi.

But it's for work. For work. That's what makes a difference. I can sit down, I choose the less ideal and bitter path, and maybe I'm ashamed and maybe I fail, and I take all the risks, and every night I feel lonely because I work.

Instead of him, it's better to open a VA. Rina, please help me. Then I got 5 people, I copied, I passed, I got 500 thousand. While I got 500 thousand from Saweran, but I had to pay it back.

Gocap is 50,000.

Gocap is 50,000. So, if the trust is still high, you borrow 1 million, and you give it. The trust is still going down, the quantity is going down. But if the quantity is going down, you ask for Gocap, the probability of being borrowed is high. You just give it to 5 people or send it to the group. I'll hit someone for me. Or borrow first, I hit someone.

I'll return it tomorrow.

It must be given because it's 50,000.

Yes. Then it goes down, down, down. Then it's all over the place. Then you're viral. Then you're a rest box. Don't borrow money.

Don't be a bad character.

This is borrowing small money.

Yes, borrow small he'll come here. 100,000 for free. For example... I'm kidding. I'm just kidding. Don't be mad at me.

I'm just letting you change.

That's it.

That's crazy.

Is this true?

It's true.

I don't tell fake news. Maybe I should dramatize the message. But I don't tell no lies.

I mean, because if you're telling all the truth, this is so shit, man.

This is shit. This can be a lesson so you don't become a bad character. Maybe in life, you need to figure everything out. You don't need to know exactly what you need to do. But at least you know what you shouldn't become a bad person, that simple maybe in life you don't have to figure everything out you don't have to know exactly what you have to do but at least you know what you shouldn't do don't lie, don't gamble, don't borrow money

don't be lazy maybe you don't know what's the real thing but the real thing is in the rest box so this is for you, Gen Z, Millennial, whatever so don't be a bad person. That's all. Ouch.

Okay?

I have a headache.

So, you have a case with the program? Are you satisfied?

We are just following the existing legal process. We trust all the authorities. You don't try to get close to them? I have tried. Not only to get close to them, I have tried to apologize. I'm It means it's a spread. But what I can say is... It means it's an ITE.

If he's infected, it's not just an ITE. He should be double.

Because of ITE, it's a good name. I don't know. Because the process of investigation is different than the process of diagnosis. When I met him, I just said, don't argue, don't lie,

just this once. Just tell the truth. I didn't say you're good to me, I didn't say this. Just tell the truth. Because there's what you think, and there's what's real. I want us to live in the real.

How can you do that?

That's why I'm a coward. If I could give him advice, and I see him working every night, and I feel like it's hard. It's hard when people don't believe you.

What's the problem with Raze Bob?

Hatred.

Hatred? What case is this?

The Sunda case is a hateful case. The Samosella Program is a good name spread.

He's not affected by good name spread.

Both of them are.

Huh?

The good name spread is both.

Both? Huh? The one that's called Pencemaran Nama Baik is a duo. A duo? Not Penyebaran, right?

I don't know, but I think they're both called Pencemaran Nama Baik. Maybe it's because of the channel.

Bro, when you talk about streaming, there's always a risk, right?

There's always a risk. But life without risk is not life.

That's right.

Well, making a podcast like this is risky, even though you're already rich. Or you go to the gym, there's a risk of getting injured.

But if that's the risk, if this is the risk you're taking, the risk is talking about other people, sir.

Right. Again, I really like to bet on myself. I like to say that if I'm good at it, it should be a case. I hope I don't get lost again. So, we just have to try.

What did you learn?

What I learned is... I learned from my brother, be a good person. Don't focus too much on what you have to do right. Just focus, don't do the wrong things. don't lie, don't cheat, just work. Just be a good person first.

The basic is to be a good human being first, not a man.

Your hope for your brother has changed?

It's changed a lot. It's changed a lot. I don't expect you to be a rich person, God willing. I said, like, I said, Bon, is Mr. Daus born to drive Jana?

You're so stupid.

But it's okay. I mean, I'm okay. It's okay if I have to pay him monthly. Yeah, yeah. You're just helping. Yeah, I mean, what's that? But I also want my brother to be a superman, to be a star. I've been saying you you're funny, but...

you're funny, but when you're in the mood, your goal is not to work, or not streaming, not doing entertainment. Your goal is to always look cool. You want to have money to look cool. Not that you want to have money so my brother can eat sushi every day, it's okay. You're streaming to look cool.

That's wrong. You can be as good as you want, but you still hit the target.

You're talking like this, what did your mom respond?

I don't know, I archived my mom's chat.

Damn.

She checked my phone for the first time. Jana, why did you make this explode? Don't post anything, don't do this. I said, Bun, if a house is on fire, it's the fire that's wrong, not the smoke. All of this is smoke. This is the rice pop.

This is me, this is the community, this is the netizen, this is the clip, this is the podcast. You can't be mad at the smoke. You're mad at the fire, you're mom turned off the stove. But I don't know why. I don't understand. My mom is old and panicking. It's not rational. I just archive the chat. Sometimes the best solution is to just archive it.

I said, Bun, if the house is on fire... The one who is looking for it should turn off the stove first. Or maybe my mom... This is a burnt house. Maybe my mom's mindset was, it's a burnt house, instead of burning it, I should just close my eyes.

Because the house is still on fire. Not because you didn't see it, it didn't happen. This is your mom's age. Honestly, I only remember April 20th. I think she was 60 years old.

60 years old. 60 years old.

If Resbo wants to watch this, he won't be mad?

He will be mad and disappointed If I'm being honest, he will hate me and he will be heartbroken But if I have to be the bad guy for you to be the good guy, then I'll be the bad guy I don't mind. I don't mind. Because if after this, your character is good,

you hate me all you want, maybe the netizens will never...

Do you still have a hope that, even a slight hope that you're gonna change?

I have to.

I have to delusion. I have to delusion. But if that doesn't exist. I have to be delusional. I have to be delusional. If that's the case, there's no way. If we talk about realism and logic, there's no way. But if we talk about realism and logic, I shouldn't be on Deddy Corbuzier's podcast. So, I have to be delusional.

Anything is possible.

Yes, anything is possible. And you have to change. And if he changes, you accept him? If he wants to be a streamer, let's do a collab. Because I already know my goal. I'm going to work hard. But if I see the goal is still... I said it on my stream. I said I still want to be cool. This character is still wrong.

The direction is still wrong. I can't. I don't want to help. What else do I work for? I can't, I don't want to help. I don't know what I'm doing for a living. I'm just trying to help my brother.

It's hard to believe that there's someone like him. It's hard to believe that there's someone like him.

It's hard to believe. Netizens will probably flood the clip with him and me. And a year ago, with my three viewers, actually two, I was saying the same thing. And I was criticizing the same thing.

And at that time, the viewers were still saying, you're crazy, you're not respecting your brother. Bro, it's not about respect. Just because I respect him and your brother. Bro, it's not about respect. Just because I respect him as my brother, I want him to be the best brother.

I see.

It's not like when I'm fat, people say, why are you so fat? I can get a bump or I can get a glass. I think it's more ideal if I'm in shape or I exercise. I don't mind saying the ugly truth, you know? As long as it's the truth, I feel like you can never go wrong. So, in your opinion, can I not be the number one streamer?

Well, you said you can delusion forever.

No, so in your opinion, I can't. I have to delusion.

No, but it doesn't mean you can't.

Right, right. And I want your answer, whatever it is And I can answer anything in my mind.

We work by ambitions. Even delusion is part of ambitions.

Yes.

Because if we don't have delusion, delusion is the ambition that doesn't make sense. But if we talk about it in the world, in this era, everything that we talk about delusion, Masuk akal tapi kalau kita bicara di dunia di zaman sekarang ini segala suatu yang kita bicarakan dilusi itu belum ketemu doang belum ketemu doang ya kalau lu ngomong gitu gua selalu cerita gua lahir dari keluarga yang miskin susah punya cita-cita jadi pesulap kan tolol

Udah susah mau jadi pesulap ngapain lu gitu kan delusi juga itu itu kan dilusi kalau lu punya It's hard to be a magician. What are you doing? It's also an illusion. It's an illusion. If you have... My question is simple. Do you feel your ability all the time?

Every day, every night.

If you do that, like every day, every night, you feel your ability and so on, you can't do it. Or Halil Intar from... selling carpets and shoes and carpet. Timothy too. If you use logic, 24 years old, Nick McLaren, who can do it?

Maybe only... I want to do a little more, I want to do a collab with Timothy.

You ask me who can do it, if you ask who can do it, it's like no one can do it.

If anyone can do it, there are many people who can.

If you have a criticism and advice, I've only been in this world for a year. You've been here, you've been a legend. What's your criticism and advice for young people who want to work in the media industry? What's your criticism and advice?

For me, don't be a raspop and don't do this to look cool.

Criticism and advice, actually, For me, don't be a rice pop and don't do this to look cool.

Critic and advice. Actually, if you ask me, it's as simple as this.

You need to be true to yourself.

But you need to be true to yourself. Because at the end of the day, people will see if you're honest or not. People will know if you're honest or not. People will know if you're lying or not. Because there are a lot of people now, people are already, yeah, indirected by the news. In the end, it's obvious,

ah, this is all a lie. The longer the society, the smarter it is. So the longer the society, the more people will know that are you being true to yourself? Are you being true to yourself? Are you being honest to yourself? Or you just make everything up? Because when you make everything up, it's easy to get up.

Once people know you make everything up, you're gone. You're gone. So, what I'm saying is, be honest to yourself. Sometimes, being honest to ourself is very difficult. Why? Because in this day and era, people can reachbait, people can search for viral,

people can search for something that people like to do. So, in the end, you're not becoming yourself. You're trapped at things that you are not you. If I'm asked that, I will say that try to find yourself, expose it, exaggerate yourself. Because people will like it.

I think, in the future, people will like everything that is honest about themselves.

Authentic, right?

Authentic, very authentic. And it's not the time anymore. If I were to be honest, I don't mind you talking about Timothy, or about McLaren, I don't mind. But if you ask me, then maybe I'm tired.

Because at the end of the day, that expensive car, this expensive watch, at the end of the day, is not a you to go there. If you ask me, you better do good to people, help people, people will talk about you at the end of the day. If you ask me. But you've been doing this for a while, you're a streamer, and you've been going up. Just assume that your brother was caught by Stepping Stone

Really? I don't have a heart

I don't have a heart

Stepping Stone caught my brother? If Stepping Stone reported your brother you're wrong He's the one who did the wrong thing You're the number one streamer 125 thousand Give me a hand Maybe he's the one who did it wrong You're the number 1 streamer 125k subscribers

I'll hold your hand

Yeah

Crazy right? If it's necessary, he'll run away and get caught

Or when he collabs with Daddy He'll be like

Sure

I'll be your streamer

Yes That's what I've been waiting for I don't know. Sure. Yeah. I'll go to your streamer sometime. Yes.

Yes.

That's what I've been waiting for. For 2 hours.

Oh my.

We'll talk about something different.

Right. We'll talk about sports. You don't like tennis, right?

I don't like it.

Bro.

You should try tennis, man.

Come on.

The best sport in the world is tennis. Trust me, tennis.

The best sport for me is boxing.

Yeah, right.

BJJ, Thai boxing. Because if you lose, you're caught. You can't cheat. If you pedal, you can cheat if you lose.

You can pay the deposit or you can be compensated.

No, I just said I didn't lose yesterday. I won.

I scored more points than you.

Where's the proof?

You have a lot of witnesses. I got 21 points.

If you don't use the proof, you're a loser.

Would you ever do box?

I'm 5. Like a celebrity fight, super fight? No, I'm not gonna do that. Would you ever do box? Would you ever box? Celebrity fight, super fight? No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.

No.

I think it's stupid. Super Fight Boxing versus Joe Rogan, the superstar of the world. Listen, my son has said it for the last time.

I have a reason.

Why?

They're not professional boxers. This is... In my opinion, I'm a private person.

Ease in. Respectfully. Respectfully, in my opinion, I think, respectfully.

Respectfully, I think, personally.

In Indonesian, respectfully is now the trend is izin. So if you're izin, it's okay. Izin, yes.

Izin.

Izin, Om Dad is izin.

Izin, yes.

First, if you're the same age. Yes. The same age. Yeah. If we're the same age.

Joe Rogan is the same age as you, right?

Yeah, I mean, don't be 25 years old.

Yeah, don't be Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson.

My breath is also... If Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson, it's like a total loss.

Especially against Anthony Joshua, I don't know.

If we're the same age, I'm 90% sure I'll win. Against Joe Rogan? Whoever. Joe Rogan is not certain, because Joe Rogan is an athlete. Yeah, he's an athlete. Yeah, Joe Rogan is an athlete.

But he's also an influencer.

In Indonesia. So, I'm a gocap.

Did Denny Sumaga gocap? No.

Gocap.

Yes.

There's none. The first one. The first one, yeah.

Okay.

The second one. I think this is just for entertaining people.

Yeah, this is the modern Colosseum when it was in Rome. Yeah, right?

The point is to entertain people with the gladiator. That's the second one. Okay. There are four of them. The third one. I don't need the money.

I see.

So, in the year 500M, your life hasn't changed?

I haven't got my LHKPN yet.

Damn!

Is it?

Okay, okay. Okay.

Oh, I'm a hard worker.

The fourth one. This is the fourth one that you have to think about.

What?

If you win, you lose.

Yes, sir.

People who are already comfortable like this, they are told to fight on the stage.

They are so stupid. It's not a good business move. But if it's like that, there are many high school students in Indonesia who will say, you don't dare to do it. That's their fortunate ones will say, you don't have the guts, maybe you don't have the guts. That's their argument.

When you say, it's not a good business move, guys. There's no profit for me. My career can be like this.

But their excuse is, you don't have the guts. You're a potato. I'm a potato. You're a potato. You're a potato, you don't dare. Eh, if people are successful and rich,

stealing is the second priority, boss. We're just stealing, we're just a bunch of thugs. Don't be like that.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Let's say I win. Eh, I'm out. Blue face. Air blood. I don't have a podcast for three days. I don't do a podcast for three days. I didn't become a speaker.

It's more of a loss than the boxing payment.

It's more of a loss.

Three episodes is more of a loss than... You'll be called to the office by Mr. Shafri.

Yeah, what if we're called to the office by Mr. Shafri?

We.

Mr. Shafri calls, I mean, the office. This is Benjel, right? What are you doing? Fighting terrorists? No, I'm a boxing artist.

I'm dead.

What if Mr. Sheffrin sees me?

Thank you for coming.

Thank you.

One day I'm coming to you.

Yes, sir.

Let's talk about a lot of things. I'm gonna earn it. I'm gonna earn my stripes. When I deserve the opportunity.

Try to contact me.

Yes. Yes. I must meet you at the top. Thank you for the opportunity. This is my dream of mine. When you were still in Hitam Putih, my dream was so small. I wanted to join Hitam Putih. I'll shout out my crush's name. Life changing. That's why I. It's such an honor. My honor. The honor is mine.

And keep on be yourself. Keep on on the right path. You seem to have learned a lot from your brother. So you have a bad example to not do it, right? And yeah, life is full of risks, but minimize the risk.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

I'll see you at the top. Thank you. Let's close this 5 4 3 2 1 and close the door