Sal Vulcano Heated Debate vs Black Israelite & Rabbi

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Hello everybody, welcome back to the podcast for today's guest. We have Sal Vulcano and a black Israelite. It's going to be a special episode, you guys can come on in now. For today's co-host we have my manager Vyra Flooring, Gideon Vyra Flooring. Now I don't do repeat guests which is why Sal is here and I wanted to kind of mix it and make it special so it's not a little boring and all that one. So that's why Sal, you know, because of some of the things you said online

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I want to sort of confront him with this a little bit and make it a special episode Black Israelite

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Black Jewish Nobody walks around and say they say hey, what's your name black Jewish? No, no No, I

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Don't know how to pronounce that But regardless, I'm just pleased each of you. Yeah, keep that mic there for later purposes, please just introduce later purposes Yeah, just please introduce yourself in case anybody does you know you from the last episode? Maybe they didn't see it. I did after you can tell them about the black people

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My name is Sal Volcano And I didn't know you didn't have a repeat guest so I'm honored to be back on Yeah, I I kind of want to cut after the last

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Please ignore my manager. He has a box of funny stuff.

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He got a brand new toy.

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Go ahead, sorry about that.

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No, I was just gonna come back on, because the last time I just felt like, you know, it was a weird interview and I wanted to come back on and just kind of maybe make it right.

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A more normal one.

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Yeah, more normal interview.

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This will be more serious, I'll tell you that. Alright. normal one yeah more normal in every this would be more serious I'll tell you that all right and go ahead tell us I guess I'm sure most people have dealt with black people in their lives but if you want to just go a little more

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descriptive yeah yeah I'll see the bias already from my European counterparts my name is captain Tizariak of ICPK under command in Ginegana are you speaking English yeah what is that I you just started speaking in like stuff I didn't understand. I said I am captain, you know what a captain is, right? That's an English word.

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You drive ships?

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No. No, if a police chief said, or if somebody, police officer said they was a captain, would you think ships?

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Nah, you would.

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They're in the Navy. The police?

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Yeah, the police.

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Who do you think is policing the ocean? That's a good one. You're pretty good on your feet. Look, a black person, I just touched a white man's face. You see that? We're not that bad, clearly.

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That was a big accomplishment like 300 years ago.

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Listen, man, you just grew up. Hey, is this unleavened bread?

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Or is this leavened bread? I don't know what that means. I'm sure these eating any of the bread

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Would you like any rape juice no, I'm good it depends if

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I figured you know that aren't you Jewish? I'm formerly Jewish now. I'm a white man

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Fighting for white power. That's kind of regrets because you changed your voice to speak what I thought was Arabic I thought you was an Arab at first, but you changed your voice to be more Jewish So how could you know to be more stern and serious? You think that voice makes you more stern and serious? Yes, I sound kind of more like you to be honest, which I don't know how to- Mine is natural though.

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So what? It's like going to the gym.

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What is this again?

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This is rave juice.

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Okay.

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Anyways, let's get into the question. I'm not gonna drink it unless it's asking for it. That kind of eliminates the whole purpose of that.

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Okay.

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You bought them yourself.

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He has a funny box. Okay. I see. So you've said the movement began with Frank Cherry, who claimed he had a dream revealing that black Americans are the true Israelites. There's no evidence to support that. It's a belief born from some man's vision with no historical backing.

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Wow. Go ahead. Can you just repeat my quote one more time?

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The movement began with Frank Cherry who claimed he had a dream revealing that black Americans are the true Israelites. There's no evidence to support that. It's a belief from some man's vision with no historical backing.

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I said that?

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That's what you said. And can you explain why you would say that? Is that what you truly believe?

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Okay

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Yes

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I'm just trying to remember a place where I said that I think it was at the

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I'm not asking where you said it I'm asking you to go more in-depth and then we'll let him respond. I said that the Met Gala the Met Gala. Yeah

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You know I'm asking you to go more in depth and then we'll let him respond. I might have said that to Met Gala. The Met Gala? Yeah.

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You know, like anything. He looks like he's dressed up for it.

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Like anything I...

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I don't think that required it.

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I seek, you know, I seek answers. You know, I'm curious about things.

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No, you weren't seeking answers you were making a stern point against black Israelites yeah it wasn't yeah that sounds like a statement well it's tomato tomato on that but uh tomato if you say that it was fabricated as fake you you must have proof that it was fake.

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Well I, just like any religion, even like Catholicism or whatever, it started a long time ago and it's passed down.

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Is Catholicism fake?

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What's that?

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Is Catholicism fake? As far as the founders, how they say they founded Catholicism, is faith. Yeah, I don't see I don't read it literally

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Read what I don't take what a literal sense of the Bible

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So I do think that I'm talking about the Bible until about when Catholicism is After the Bible stop fucking with him you eat a mite Yeah, he learned listen. Let's say good job. Good job. job kiss my boot you talk about your brother though

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Just so you know did you Google like did you Google hot Israelite phrases? Yes, clearly

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He got he got all Hey if you get him to kiss your boot that'll be that that'll be fine you kiss my boots Hell no, why not cuz I people did that or you can kiss my boot? Hell no. Why would I? Because our people did that. You can kiss my boot though.

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Yeah, you guys are already familiar. It's in your blood.

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No, it's not. Well, I tell you what, we got to get it familiar in your blood.

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Nobody had mentioned that.

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What's better than your young blood getting on your knees doing it? That's a little weird. Because you're young in age, so it's better to get the youth ready. Because I'm a minor? What, you're 18 now, right?

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No, I'm 17.

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Okay, no problem. 17 year old, you can get right down there. I won't go to jail if you get on your knees and kiss the boot.

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Why do you want a 17 year old to get on his knees?

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You wanna do it?

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Because it's better to get the youth involved. Because when old people get too old and die, they ain't gonna be as spruceful, they ain't gonna be as spry. Wow. Yeah, you get them young.

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Finish what you're saying, Sal.

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Well, I've been taking collagen because my joints have been acting up a little bit and I just got a full blood panel done.

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No, finish what you're saying about Frank Cherry.

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Yeah, yeah, Frank Cherry was a liar, man. Because they actually would teach if you actually did the research he actually went to jail for teaching That we were Israelites and that makes me talk about I'm saying if you go to jail for something It's no no it makes FS cherry doing what he did real going to jail does not make it real It's him a criminal going to jail make it really wouldn't be can see makes him a criminal That's why I'm getting killed

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I'll is saying that that makes him a criminal Frank cherry went to jail cuz he's a criminal that's what I know. Charlie saying that that makes him a criminal Frank Cherry went to jail because he's a criminal. I don't know if I said that though. Well that's

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what you're implying. No he didn't say that this time. One thing I do is I'll put the charge on you if you did it. Thank you Cizireak thank you. No problem. But he didn't say that I said that he went to jail for teaching. Maybe you should lick everybody everybody's boots You're gonna kiss his boots. I think you should be looking at his boots. If you can't misquote me. That's right kiss my booty to my This weird Santa eat eat am I asking another eating might to kiss his boot?

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You can't be need to might ask another

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We're forming our own bomb here I have a question How can people begin to take you seriously when you say your name is captain Tazariya Kiya Hawada The same way we take anybody's language serious if I ask somebody the name and they told me my name is by job I chop up a cabajamba and I go come on man be serious with me. You know

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You don't have to know my name, you know, you have to care about my name It's just the actions that you see us do. People take people serious not based off their name, but the actions behind the person.

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The action behind telling people your name is copped to Tariq Wahada.

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He's a little unserious.

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When you say somebody's name, whether you can pronounce it or not, whatever reputation they establish behind their name is what you think about him. If you say Donald's name, it's his name. No, you disagree with him. You're the opposing side. I agree with him. I don't like Obama. I don't like Obama. It don't matter.

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I don't want to get into Obama. It don't matter if you know how to say his name or not. When you say his name, if you say my name, my reputation is what you think about,

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whether you know how to say it or not. This is a question for both of you, do you support interracial marriage first Sal then black?

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See how you say that? Sal then black. That's the thing. But just let's remember Jesus was black, Moses was black. So when he's saying black,

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he's talking about all the black prophets in the Bible.

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Sal was Jesus black?

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No, he got to answer the interracial question first.

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You interrupted him. Sal was Jesus black? Don't know. He got to answer the interracial question first. You interrupted him. Sal was Jesus black.

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No, you called me black when I got a name. So I don't mind that. Cause Jesus was black. So we gonna say black Jesus, black Moses, black Isaiah, black Elijah. We just gonna say black in front of everybody was named.

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Right.

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There you go.

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You can answer the question now. Okay, which question I'm answering Do you support interracial marriage? Yes, of course you do. Yes. Am I not supposed to I Thought well, anyways, I guess go ahead

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You said the baby, but you didn't say I had to take the opposite stance of him

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I think he actually doesn't support interracial marriage. Oh, he does not do you know the Bible doesn't support it

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Oh, yeah, but I don't really live by the Bible. You know, I live by my own code of ethics. Oh, okay. And I, you know, I think the heart doesn't choose what it wants.

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Yeah, that's why I love the Bible. The Bible say the heart deceitful, who can know it? But the Bible, God says we can only marry within our race. Old Testament can't force by the New Testament because Christ said he didn't come to change the law or the prophets. All right

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Am I at the point where you guys are gonna start claiming? I black I'm black or is that a little too recent you? Yeah, like you like you guys took Jesus and Moses, but you ain't black I just said you're eating my Michael Jackson. You're saying that now, but when will you Michael Jackson is there? Michael Jackson, but you don't might though Michael Jackson ain't black Michael Jackson is not black. Why I could look at him when he died

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So you saying because he had lighter skin because he bleached his skin that don't bleach your ethnicity

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Sal believes the white race is in danger. Do you agree? You said the white race is what? Sal believes the white race is in danger.

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Do you agree?

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Yes, I actually do agree that the white race is in danger because when you talk about abortions, the reason why they reversing the Roe v. Wade is because white women aren't producing their great white glorious babies. Right.

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They're not having kids. And you're saying we need to have more white babies produced.

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No, that's what y'all are saying. I don't want y'all to have more babies. I believe the white

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race is in trouble. Yeah. I believe as just as I believe every race is in trouble though. I think

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we need to come together. No, but specifically. Making too much noise. Calm down. But specifically- I'm causing him to do that. It's not his fault. He's on your side by the way.

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He represents you?

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Who is that to you?

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That's my manager, but today he's a black Israelite supporter.

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What's your ethnicity? You don't talk. You don't even wanna talk, I forgot.

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Go ahead, finish what you were saying Sal about the white race. He loves it though.

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The white race, what would you like to know about them?

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Why are they in danger and how can we stop them? You know I'm half Hispanic.

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I don't care either way, I'm the moderator. Oh, your mom's, okay. So your father's side is white?

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Well, they're from Europe, Italian.

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Okay. Yeah. I don't support the death of any human being. Well, you don't really care as much

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as if it was a black guy.

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He's a stand up guy.

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Yeah, it's not a matter.

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He's sitting down.

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Go ahead.

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I don't support the death of any human being.

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But if it was black people, you'd be more concerned. With white people, I feel bad.

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I think, I think, I think it should I think it's natural for you to care about your ethnicity first and then other ethnicities second. I mean I see I think he's being you

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know I I get what he's saying I get what he's saying do you but but but I I I come from a different place I just I care about humans every any human it doesn't matter if you're a different race I don't I wouldn't I care about humans. Uh, every, any human, it doesn't matter if you're a different race. I don't, I wouldn't care to be on the border. You're a fence seater right now. No, I wouldn't care about, uh, okay. Bring in the rabbis. Please. It has nothing to do with race. Who is it now? Bring in the rabbi. Okay. Now I had a feeling, unfortunately, that Sal was going to be a little bit scared of the

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black man here. I mean he's a little bit scary. I'm sitting closer to him but. Black Moses. Just in case I got two rabbis here to take him on.

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Why two?

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I had one and then he canceled and then I tried to get another one but then I got two together and I felt bad to cancel on one of them.

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You got a case of too many raps. I don't get it. We have two raps.

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You wanna come sit?

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A lot of small hats, right?

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Hello, sir.

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Yeah, yeah, I like to shorten words. I'm usually in a rush.

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A lot of small hats.

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It's a pleasure to meet you.

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Where's the other rabbi, by the way?

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They want both of the hats. He got the big hat. He got the big hat? I know it's tight, I'll try again. Small hat and a big hat. My students call me Rabs.

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Oh yeah?

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Fucking Hazar, fucking Kazar, Kuzarim! Kuzarim! Kuzarim!

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You looked up a lot of words before this, I didn't even get a chance to do that.

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Well I'm the moderator, alright?

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It's his job to do research. So, Menachem. Menachem. Menachem. You gotta put the chum.

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So Menachem and Brian?

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Yes.

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Yes. One of us assimilated a little bit more.

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Okay.

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Are y'all natural Jewish?

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Here we go.

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Define natural.

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Meaning like you.

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We're not lab made.

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No, no, meaning like your dad, well y'all go by your mother, but are y'all Jewish or y'all American, white? We are American Jews. Okay, so you're Jewish, like from Israel. That's what I mean, from like Israeli.

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Fuck him!

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I'm a Jewish American. My parents are both Jewish.

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Okay, that's what I was asking.

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From Israel?

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My father's from Israel.

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I only say that because when I asked the moderator, he said he wasn't

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He wasn't talking about me

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You're the moderator. I'm not Jewish. Right? I'm formerly Jewish now. I'm a white power

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So that's why I say formally. I didn't even know you can do that, but

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You can't Prince did something like that

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Well, I make these counterpoints just because just took his name from there, right?

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Yeah, but he changed. He was formerly something.

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So I'm just trying to draw a parallel. He was formerly Prince.

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Now the Jewish religion says that you can't convert out of Judaism. But as somebody who doesn't follow or practice it, I can do whatever I want.

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Right, I think for the most part any individual could do what they want.

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Certainly you can choose how you how you live your life right spiritual identity. I heard you earlier talk about the father in in the book of Numbers chapter one. It says I'm talking about that. I think you're talking about me right. Yeah. Yes. It says let me show you some of the base of us and we know what tribe you're from based off the

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father right up until Mount Sinai Everything was according to the father and then we change the book of Ezra and the Chamiah Changed the spiritual identity goes according to the mother Everything else goes according to the father but but usually today everything goes Mission well, I mean a lie. I mean we could disagree

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No, that's a lie. Like you're always according to your father Oh, your father makes up the tribe the tribe, correct the tribe

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I don't read what tribe you're from whether you're a Kohen whether you're a priest or an Israelite. That's all by the father

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No, but there's 12 tribes of Israel. So you have Judah, Manasseh, Nadal, Gad, Benjamin I think now we're gonna sort of take a backseat to the interview and I think we're gonna take it from there. That's all determined by the father, so your race or ethnicity is by your father. That's why you can't intermarry.

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I was making a joke about the rape Jews.

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In Deuteronomy chapter seven, it says that you may not intermarry, that's true.

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In terms of interracial marriage,

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what you had said before, Judaism is not a... Supporting a racial marriage? Yeah, of course. You would marry a non-Jew? That's not in the Torah, though. That's interfaith, not inter-race.

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Okay, but you know what I mean when I say that.

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Where in the Torah you can intermarry?

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No, you cannot. Fucking Kuzerim?

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Deuteronomy chapter seven is a biblical commandment against intermarriage.

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But you just said that, that's fine. But if we're going by the Torah, you can't intermarry, interracial, you can't do none of that, but based on the Torah.

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So I'll ask you a simple question. What verse, where in the Jewish scriptures does it say that you cannot interracially marry?

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Not interfaith. for faith. Well, real quick, I have a question. Do you believe that Judaism is like sort of an ethnicity as well?

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No, I can't be.

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Oh, you don't believe that?

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It's like Christianity.

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What about you, Rabbi with the hat?

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I assume that's me, we're both wearing hats.

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You have the hat on, he has that little evil thing on.

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Go ahead.

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They both evil.

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By the way, you guys Why do they like your hat? Because they're not biblical.

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That's not in the Torah either. They come from Russia. They come off the Russian steppe.

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Just because it's not in the Torah, just because I'm wearing it makes it evil? Is when you're wearing it around your head,

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you see the writing? the Bible. Ezekiel wore a mitra. He said, put that tire upon thy head and go teach the word. He never said put a yarmulke or the chieftain hat. That's from Russia. So when you represent that as Judaism, you're fine. But when you represent it as a Torah, it's

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wrong.

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We fundamentally disagree. A hundred percent. But you can't show me that hat in the Torah. No there is no biblical commandment. You're right. I believe in something called... So we should have definitions.

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Oh you got him there. I give a point to the black.

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We should have definitions made clear.

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For example. He talking, when he say to the black, he's saying black Jesus, black Moses, black Elijah.

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Well to be clear, I don't think any of those people are black. They all black. I don't think a single one of them is black. They're all of them black. And neither does Sal, by the way, or these two Jews.

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All of them black.

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I don't think so.

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What does it matter if they're black?

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Do you think Jesus is black?

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Which one?

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You know who he knows?

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Jesus.

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He doesn't think Jesus is black.

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Well, they're from the Middle East.

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Middle East are say olive skin, it's still saying black.

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He got you, your analogy doesn't work.

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What color people are has no, I mean, that doesn't matter.

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That is diabolical to say when y'all created colorism.

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Who's y'all, what are you talking about?

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When I'm saying y'all.

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Speaking of diabolical, there's a new season

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of Hell's Kitchen that just started that is a real. Sal, don't try to cop out here. Sal, we're gonna get you in on the debate in a minute.

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When I say y'all, whether it's Jewish or Europeans, which are all Edomites, y'all created race. Y'all took Christ, made him white when he wasn't. If you describe, like for example, when Moses put his hand in his bosom, took it out, it was white. When he put it back in, it was black, black, excuse me, like the rest of his skin.

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He just put his hand in his ass?

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Bosom.

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Yo, what does that mean?

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Bosom. I forgot you're a young kid, but you too intelligent, so I know what you're doing.

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He took his hand in his- area. This area. Look, what are you pointing? Right. Can't see the moderator sleeping. Why is it that he had shit all over his hand? She's not usually white unless you drink a slurpee.

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Well, if you did it, you'd probably be putting in his ass, though, because you're freaky like

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that.

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I'm not gay or anything. Don't forget.

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I say gay. you do freaky shit. I'm not gay at all. No, no. Yeah, see, your manager agrees with me.

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I have a clarifying question. You, I'm sorry.

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Hold on one second. I just, I wanna keep the interview flowing. I wanna make sure that-

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Yes, yes.

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We're on appropriate timing. Who here is the best at basketball? What do you guys think? He's raising his hand.

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You better at basketball?

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Could be, man.

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You think you're better at basketball than this guy? Looks like Michael Jordan.

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I'm taller.

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You taller than me?

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I'm a Jewish 6'2".

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That's like, I must be a Goliath 8'9", or something like that. Not taller than me, but you know.

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Yeah, but didn't that guy lose the fight?

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Yeah, that was a bad analogy. That's the first one I used a bad analogy.

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You're a loser is what you're saying.

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That's cap.

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That's what you're saying.

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You just told me I've been winning this whole time. You can't tell me what I'm doing. And now you compared yourself got a point. That's the same thing. Did he give you points? He just got one We just know he only saying that the one up me the moderator because he's biased. Did you get any points? No, well, we won at basketball, which you didn't win at basketball because we haven't played it. Anybody can talk

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Out of the Jews here one two but there's only one Jew here and who is that me

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Sally interprets the question differently he actually I would is this like a riddle I would kill myself

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That's the question. Otherwise, they all die

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I appreciate that. Sorry making deals Jewish? Go ahead, Sal.

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I really don't know how to answer the question. I don't want to let anyone down here, but I don't come from this position where I would eliminate anybody. So I guess I guess what everyone have to die.

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You have to get you have to get rid of two of these Jews here.

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Are you Jewish?

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Mr. Floring?

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Is he Jewish as well?

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No, he's not. Are you asking the black guy who keeps trying to tell you that he's Jewish even though he's black?

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I'm not Jewish.

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I'm a Jew.

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You're black.

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I'm a Jew.

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You're an African American who thinks you're Jewish.

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How can you be two continents?

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Just break that down. There are there are possibly the dumbest question I've ever heard

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What how can I be African and American cuz you're from Africa, but that's a whole continent. I'm not from Africa, right? That's how that Africa is a big continent with like 40 countries and then some little villages in each of those countries You know what that means? Did you somebody says they're European?

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When I say you're from Africa,

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but you're considered American? No, I'm not genetically from Africa either.

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No, I'm not.

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I'm not African, I don't even like Africans.

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Which one of these guys would you keep alive?

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For the sake of the, who would I keep alive?

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Yeah, you gotta pick one of these.

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Everybody else dies. Let's pick it. Okay, you you would be stay alive. Thank you

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Once I'm alive, can I pick another one to add to the living list? Hey So, why did you decide to eliminate the other two Jewish you it was getting exhaustive

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Rabbi how will the weather be tomorrow?

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We haven't decided.

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Now look, the other rabbi answer, I don't think he gets it.

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Hot.

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It'll be hot again.

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Why?

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That's what my Apple Weather Channel told me.

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Sal, did you know the first man on the moon was black? So was the man who made the telephone, so was the man who made the wheel, so was the man who made the radio, and so was the man who made the Xbox. Watch your rebuttal, Sal.

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My rebuttal?

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Yup.

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My rebuttal getting crazy.

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What is the, what am I rebutting?

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I guess that all of those people were black, according to him.

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Oh, so that's not true.

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It is according to him.

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I never said no shit.

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I don't know how to rebut that.

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If that's a fact, is that a fact?

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Yeah, I never said no shit like that.

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Well, Google says the guy was white.

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Some of them were white. All of them were white. fact-check it you know. Why didn't the black man go to the moon? You say what? You're saying nobody was black on the moon? Yeah I don't think when they went to the moon any of those astronauts was black. Oh you guys haven't claimed them yet? We don't claim unlike white people we don't steal something we didn't create. Uh-uh. What do we steal that we can't? You guys took Jesus and Moses for one no y'all stolen

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That's a fundamental disagreement. I'll pass the conversation on to the rabbi with the heart. I'm the moderator rabbi with the heart Go ahead wasn't Jesus and Moses black

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My question is why are we so stuck in this? Why does it really matter?

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That's part of his that's part of his whole religion. I guess no, it's not actually

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We just follow the truth of the Bible. The only reason we have to establish the identity of anybody in the Bible is because Edomites, or Europeans, came and changed what they were.

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Why would you assume we're from Europe?

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Where else are you from? I remember Helen Thomas was a news reporter, Washington, D.C., for like 50 years, and she said, y'all should go back home. And they asked her, they said, where's home at? She said, Poland, Russia, Germany.

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They fired her that night. So that's where you guys from. Y'all are not originally from the Middle East.

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I actually have family from Spain. We are originally from the Middle East.

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And Spain is not the Middle East.

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But also my question to you is what... He said Spain like that was Middle East. You lost a point for that.

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I have relatives from Spain as well.

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Sup, cuz.

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Yes.

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But how did the Jews get to Europe?

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We just sprouted...

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No, the bigger question is how did y'all get to Israel? You know, historically y'all wasn't looking for Israel first. You know, y'all went to Haiti, y'all went to South America, y'all was looking in Africa, y'all was looking anywhere to go.

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If you look at-

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Originally.

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If you go back to the Belford Act and all of that that y'all did, that's why y'all had that war in Palestine, because you broke every treaty that you even had with the Palestinians.

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That's a whole separate conversation.

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No, it's you're asking'all was in Germany having war with another set of white people because y'all all white y'all they went America fights for y'all and then they like where are we gonna place these people and so again if you look historically it was gonna place you in South America it was gonna place you in Haiti they was gonna place you in Africa and then the Palestinians welcomed y'all with open arms thinking that y'all was only going to bring a certain amount of people, thinking that y'all wasn't going to expand in certain other areas. And then what did y'all do, like white people do?

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Broke the treaties and just decided we're going to take more and more and more and more land from them. So that land was never yours. It's not the Palestinians either, but at least they was there before y'all got there. What you're saying is factually 1000% false.

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If you look at any DNA.

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I can pull up the bell for that.

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No phone allowed. We're all going to be off the top.

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If you did a DNA test of me, the language, the life, the coins, the Torah, everything shows that the Jews were there for thousands of years. To suggest that we weren't, I would suggest why don't you go do a DNA test? I'll do a DNA test and we'll link that back and see.

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But the white man owns the DNA comparison.

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To compare Israelis.

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Ohhhhhhh.

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So now, so now, now this statement about you, but when you say DNA test, so the very people that took away the identity of black people, you want me to go to them to give me my identity. They're gonna lie to us. I have a new talk show coming out called Manouche. On the subject of DNA for your ancestry it's not even accurate you can only go so far you can only go back so many generations why because like if you DNA for a child, that's live data. For a murder, that's live data.

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You can go back certain generations, you can get live data. But at some point, it's just a guess.

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So same? I'll give you a checkmate. If you look at the Kohanim, if you look at the priests, and their Y chromosomes, they have a very unique set of Y chromosomes bundled together. It is unique to them only, and it goes back over 3,000 years to one common person.

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And who said that? Who said that? Who gave this information?

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The same-

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The white man! The same Jewish people that lied is the same Jewish people that you think are going to be honest. That's why when I'm talking about DNA for ancestry, I'm not even being biased about Jewish or not. I'm saying DNA for ancestry itself is just not

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reliable to go back 3000 years. We can't have a conversation if every time we say something, you just say that we can't prove it even though we can and yet you haven't proved anything. Well, I can't. You're just making big bold statements. How do we know you're not from the U.S.?

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To be fair, hold on. He has an unbeatable argument because every time you present him with facts and evidence, he claims it's from the white man. So how can you beat somebody who doesn't accept any sort of proof?

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That's actually not what I said.

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You got him.

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Pound it on that. I won't you were doing. I mentioned the bell for that, that's facts. The treaties that y'all signed with them and then broke them, that's also facts. The Palestinians welcoming y'all, that's also facts. What I said about DNA, what I said about DNA.

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You were denying the fact that there were Jews there

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the entire time. I didn't deny that.

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Who were the first, so when?

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For example, when I was in Israel, there's a section in Israel where Israelites of Myhew never left Israel from the exile when the Romans invaded Israel in 70 AD. So I can make that claim because I went over there, I interviewed them, I have it if I need to, oh I can't, I can't grab my phone, but I have the information So we're talking about is your you guys converted around 600 AD to Judaism And it's no different than when white people believe that they're the Americans when you have the native indigenous people that was here first

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Oh my god, okay this I don't know what he just said. I was eating the okay go ahead everything

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That you just said it's so eating the bread. Go ahead, now your turn. You fucking that bread up, by the way. That you just said is so factually just wrong.

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It's not.

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Okay.

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You are fucking that bread up, though.

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First of all, you called us Edemites.

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Edemites, E-do-mites.

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Pusarim!

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That comes across as the children of Aesop. Who? Esau Esau yeah, so you know so so that's who I am yeah All white people come for me. So what you saw you said? Oh my this is this is nuts. This is absolutely No, no, all I would say to you is it's very simple You and I it seems like you believe in the veracity of the Jewish scriptures.

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That's what, right.

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Yes, of the Israelite scriptures, yes, I do.

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Okay, so all I would ask you is very simple questions. Where in the 29,000 verses of the Jewish scriptures from the beginning of Genesis to the end of Malachi, does it say anything that you just claimed?

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That's all.

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As far as y'all being Edomites?

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As far as, again, what color people were, it doesn't matter. Jews is not a race.

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If color didn't matter when Esau was born, was his color described in the Bible?

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Yes, it's very rare.

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Then you can't say color don't. You know why you say it's very rare? Because it doesn't describe the color any other child being born. Including Israelites being black. But what color was he? You know why I don't have to describe?

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What color does it say he was in the Torah?

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It says he was red and hairy.

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Tali, you wanna get on the disc?

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Are we red?

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He was red.

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Are we red?

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Tali's red?

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He was red and hairy all over.

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Look, he's red.

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You guys.

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He's dressed like red. It ain't talking about red, it ain't talking about being flesh and blood red, it's talking about what y'all, the color that y'all get. And you know why I described Esau and not no other race? Because every other race had melanin. Y'all were the first people born that did not have the melanin makeup that everybody else.

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I'm trying to study the Torah, red is lack of melanin?

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Yes.

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That's what color comes out of lack of melanin. Color comes from melanin. If you have a lot of melanin, you'll be dark. If you don't have a lot of melanin, you'll be light.

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And no melanin is red?

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I wanna have less melanin, how do I do that? You can be albino, which would be whiter. But the bigger point is when Esau was born, the reason why the description of him was described was because before he was born it was that color didn't that color did not exist as far as okay and your color the Caucasoid Mountain man that comes from the Caucasus Mountains was born red and hairy all over and what

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else did it say it said he would live by the sword and that's how white people live y'all are bombing the hell out of the Palestinians because y'all live by the sword and that's how white people live. Y'all are bombing the hell out of the Palestinians because y'all live by the sword. America lives by the sword. That's how y'all live. So the sword, sword, what am I supposed to say?

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Sword?

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Yeah, you're having a little trouble with that.

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No, I like saying sword better.

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Are you suggesting that had the Palestinian, had Hamas, I should say, had Hamas not done what they did on October 7th, the Jews would have gone in there and did what they did.

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I'm saying something a little different than that. What I'm saying is that if y'all would have held to the treaty that y'all agreed with the Palestinians, what I'm saying is y'all might not even have had an October 7th ever there are

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Zero Jews in Gaza. There are two million air 20 million babies at the hand of there are How many babies there are areas on the Israeli Supreme Court I mean, it's the opposite of what you're claiming the Jews do

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Everybody is welcome in Israel. Everybody. No they're not. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. When black people from Chicago went to Israel, when they went to Israel, y'all did not accept them. The only way y'all accepted them was if they allowed their kids to be a part of your military. And then even when they did that, y'all tried to export them. What, export? Or deport. Y'all tried to deport them.

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Are you guys just-

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So when you say y'all accepting everybody, that's just not true. Y'all don't accept the Ethiopian Jews. Y'all don't accept them all.

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Are you kidding me?

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Of course we accept the Ethiopian Jews. I'm very clear on what I'm saying. So when you say y'all accept Where do they fall Well, if they're Israelites, they're like us if they're actual Ethiopians, then they would be like you we're talking about

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We're all red. I

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Don't even think he might be too slow to get one quick question around

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Are you guys pro-Israel?

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Yeah, I'm an abashed Zionist.

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How y'all feel about that? Your own fellow Edomite is not pro-Israel.

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It's not his fault, it's allergy season.

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How do y'all feel about that?

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Feel about what?

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Him not being pro-Israel and he's a Jewish man like the Kuzerine

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People have different have different

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Outlooks and I know that I'm not

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And that everybody's gonna agree with me and that's okay right agree first of all, I don't want anybody to die

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This isn't about death. Didn't you say you hated the Arabs?

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No, that's what I heard and I this is just a legend, I heard that he was high on drugs. I'm just saying.

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Boom.

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Which drug?

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Or just all of them?

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I heard you were high on drugs.

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I'm impressed with your research.

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I didn't research, that's what I was told.

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Sal, did you tell him that?

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No, I just, I just just I just arrived shortly after you.

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I'm not pro Palestine.

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Okay what? So who are you pro? I'm not pro. You just want them to kill each other so you can criticize them and go look look at all the funny white people killing each other.

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No it's like.

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Us black people don't do that all the time to each other in Chicago for example huh? Ooh. people don't do that all the time to each other in Chicago for example huh how israelite no so my position did you know black on black crime is a majority of the violence israelites boom I got a point as the moderator I'm actually glad

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you said that oh yeah 49 to 50 million black people and they say 15% like with 15% yeah that 55% that we so-called murder each other, even that's a lie.

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Because that's a start from the white man.

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Let's break it down. Well, first of all, I was actually on a live stream, and when we're talking about numbers, remember we're getting the numbers from the FBI. Those numbers could be true, those numbers could be false. But what those numbers represent are arrests. They don't represent convictions well that's one of the president's why we're the numbers the same

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what do you want to flip it the other way oh here's my point the most exonerated ethnicity in America is also black people so what that means is the same black people that are getting arrested for crimes he can also get released from jail for crimes that they didn't commit. Why? Because you had stop and frisk, you had false arrests. There's ton of those things that happen

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to black people all the time. So if you're going by the numbers.

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What does stop and frisk have to do exactly with violent crimes?

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I'm gonna tell you, because when they're arresting people and saying they're committing them violent crimes, they're not always committing those crimes. Someone else is committing the crimes. Now, does that mean that black people don't kill each other? No, it does not.

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And a higher rate than whites. People, no, no.

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Well, I think, ask Charlie Kirk how you feel about that. Because Charlie Kirk said, I would more than likely get.

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Yeah, but you're giving one example, right?

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No, I'm not, I'm not finished. Charlie Kirk is a little white 16 year old kid shot up a kid's school in Colorado then three days from that a white guy shot and killed three

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police officers and then two days after that. I feel like everybody is under the impression that a majority of school shootings happen from white people. Yeah despite that when you look at the violent crime rate the white people are not making up a majority of It you got all we're not rabbi the red one over there. Go ahead You try bring up Charlie Kirk and doing fun Get on and when they get interrupted by the moderator you'll keep in her. I'm not the moderator. I'm a debater

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Oh you debate? No, I'm a moderator. He's the moderator

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Okay, so since he don't talk at all, I'll finish. So crime, America would have a better way to communicate if they just called it crime. Not black, not white, just crime.

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That's not how that works though.

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I mean, they're just,

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you know why it don't work like that?

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When you get arrested, they describe you, you know what I mean? No. Yes, they do. If you go back into the 70s. When you call 911, they say, hey, can you describe the victim? That's not what I'm talking about. When you're dealing with crime, if America treated it as just crime, there wouldn't be me or you picking sides as to who's worse or who's bad. It would just be crime. but for political reasons and because America is race driven that's why they put make it a black and white thing. It don't have to be a black and white thing.

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I don't want to spend no problem. I want to keep switching the topics. Sal, do you think white people should get reparations for slavery?

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Should give or get?

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Get.

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Get?

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They're the ones who lost the property there.

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Am I wrong?

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What do you what do? What's the question?

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That they get back what?

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It doesn't seem like we're going to be able to give white people slaves, so should we give them an amount of money to make up for it? Because the future generations of white people have had less than their ancestors because

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of this law.

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No, I'm in the camp against against slavery I'm not asking to bring back

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slavery I'm asking if the white people should be paid since they lost their slaves no I don't believe that that should be the case now and do you think that black people should get reparations so they can buy an Xbox is that well that way you think they will buy with the reparation I took took a poll, I said if you guys got reparations, what would you buy? He said, yeah.

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Or like a used, because you can get a GameStop.

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It depends how much, right?

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Now you can get that last version, like gently used, at a very, like a better price point.

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Do you get the gently used version or the new one?

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Not from reparations, but if I was at the store, I would get the new one. See, he wants a new one.

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Yeah, if you're a gamer, you're gonna go for the new one because they made a lot of slides in the technology. But if you're a casual gamer, you might wanna take a nice discount on an older model that's lightly used, gently used. If you're a gamer, you're gonna go

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for the new processing power. You want the latest and greatest. and greatness, but if you get your reparations and you wanna spend it, if you're not a gamer like that, then you maybe wanna go for like maybe the last generation model. We got the holidays coming up. You might be able to get a couple used games in a bundle.

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They do bundles.

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So in general, do you support reparations for whites?

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No. I would say no.

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What about for blacks?

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Did we promise them that?

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Why does that matter?

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Well, I mean, promises matter.

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Especially when you lie.

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I'm willing to lie.

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I'm not against that.

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You're an Edomite.

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I expect you to say that. You're an Edomite.

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You're- I'm not.

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Says who?

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Says the Edomite.

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Says my daddy. Says the Edomite.

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Says my daddy.

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Let's move on. He's a simple man, your manager, yeah?

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Me over here chillin', I'm likin' the toys

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and the race cars and stuff.

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He's a simple man, he's got a lollipop.

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Got Patrick over there, SpongeBob.

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I told you he was gonna bring his fun box.

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Yeah.

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Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, He negotiates contracts for you that him he's a genius he doesn't bring me a single contract he's a genius Shouldn't be allowed to shoot somebody with the harpoon through the chest we'll start with the Jews

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No

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Also, no No. Also no. If that's the weapon you got to defend yourself, absolutely. Why the chest specifically?

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Hold on, you need to let Sal answer.

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Can you give me some context or some color on that? Like what's the scenario?

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Because he's hilarious.

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Am I being attacked?

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No, he's hilarious.

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The heartburn to the chest is funny because it's hilarious the harpoon to

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the chest is funny because that's what I'm saying it's gonna rip through that

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yeah it's okay if I'm being attacked and I have a harpoon that's what I'm saying

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that's why I said not for defense cuz it's funny you know he's a gangster by

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the way I wouldn't do it that's why I preface and I said if you're defending yourself that's the only time

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And by the way, I wanted to ask why are all of the impractical Joker's white men, huh?

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Why aren't some of them black Israelites? Yeah, no, no, what's what's the funniest Joker? on the internet is um I'm talking about his show specifically. Okay. okay, never mind. I'll be quiet then. Okay, shut up then.

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Drewski Show.

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You just picked him because he's black. Come on.

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You said they're only white, so I had to name a black person.

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You said he's the funniest one.

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He is the funniest.

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Why? Because he's black?

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No, because this shit is funny. Let me exactly listen when Tropic Thunder So should shout wait when Tropic Thunder came out and Robert Downey jr. Played that black guy that shit was hilarious He was amazed this generation is too sensitive. Yep

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Rabbis have you ever done blackface? No, I don't know what that is come on it in the name blackface Putting making yourself look like a gangster?

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No. So you put on blackface and you're a gangster, you can still be a wimp?

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If I put on blackface, it's almost as...

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You would look like a wimp.

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Well, that might be true, but I disagree. When I wanna do it, not to be funny like Robert Downey Jr., but as sort of a defense mechanism, so instead, when I'm walking down the street, people are crossing to avoid me.

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Right, but if you just coloring your skin, you don't look good.

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Then I'm gonna be the scary one.

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No. Yeah.

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You scary now, like when you was coming down the street, I say, oh, hey, oh, oh, oh.

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I get the same impression.

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Good.

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Go on.

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Go on. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Huh. Boo. Would you do some other sort of? It was funny when Drewski did it, so you gotta kinda accept it. I think Drewski can do it if I can do it, that's my thing. I'm not offended by what he did.

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Yeah, back in the days, we wasn't offended, because it's comedy. Now, if you out there trying to, if Drewski was out there trying to seriously do something, then maybe, I could see see not doing it. I'm a pretty serious guy. I wouldn't do it for comedy. I don't believe that. But because he's doing it in comedy, it's accepted. Like when Robert Downey Jr., it was comedy.

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When the Wayans kids did White Chicks, it was comedy. But in today's time, everybody's so sensitive about what words you can say. Well, you can't do this, it wasn't, when I say back in the days, maybe like the 90s up until now, it wasn't that sensitive.

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You seem to be pretty sensitive about the whole color thing in the Bible.

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I'm not sensitive about the color thing in the Bible.

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Because there's no mention of-

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I'm just saying that it's color in the Bible.

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No word does it say-

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The N word, for example, is that in the Bible? Thank you for having me. You're leaving? No, no, no, this is just a teaching moment.

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I just don't like, I need to wait till the end

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to be too grateful.

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I'm just appreciate it.

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No, just for, and that's why I'm gonna say the N word.

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So we always pray for it.

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Yeah, I'm just so glad I'm here for this.

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The N word itself, is it anywhere in the Bible? Bible. Very unbiased. The Torah is written in Hebrew. Yeah. So I believe, when we was outside, you heard me say, I believe from Genesis to Revelations. So the N word is in the New Testament. When it described the disciples in Acts 13 and 1, it called them...

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It's scary too if you think about it.

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...pronounced as we would say the N word.

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And it just means black. Do you want him to say it right now just so we know what you're talking about? No, that's why I'm not saying it. So when we're having a discussion, I think it's important to understand that you and I agree in the Jewish scriptures.

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Everything to the left of the map.

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So for example, if a Mormon came up to a Christian and said, hey, I believe in the veracity of the New Testament, but now there's something else. Every Christian would rightfully say, well, if we believe in the New Testament, then you have to show me Joseph Smith from the New Testament, and maybe I'll believe

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it's the sequel.

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So what book do you stop at? What I would say is, you have to show me Jesus in the Jewish scriptures, and then we can talk

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about the New Testament.

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What book do you stop at?

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After Malachi.

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Do you keep the book of Maccabees? Yes or no? So if you're talking about Deuteronomy 4. Do you keep the book of Maccabees? Yes or no? No we don't when you say keep we keep the oral law the written law. What I'm asking if you keep Hanukkah, Hanukkah is in the book of Maccabees. That's right. Okay then so do you read that book? I mean it's a no I don't it's not part of you don't you can't okay? This is when we say that white man is the devil because he said he don't keep nothing after Malachi But then he said he celebrates Hanukkah, which is in a book after Malachi. I didn't say what does that have to do with the devil? I didn't say a white man would ever were devil me just means deceiver

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Anything anything after. By the way, the Bible itself refers to Hanukkah. In Leviticus 23, it talks about all the Jewish holidays.

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Hanukkah is about the eight day celebration when Mattathias went to war with the Greeks and won the war. They had an eight day celebration. That's why they light eight candles. They have the eight candles that they light for it.

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And that's in the book of Maccabees. So that's a book outside of Malachi. So when you say you stop at Malachi, but you celebrate Hanukkah, you gotta conundrum there. So my point in saying that is, when Christ and the disciples rode,

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they were Israelites too. So that is a part of the Israelite history too. And in Acts 13 and one, when that N word is used, it means black. It's from the Latin word that just means black and that's what they call the Israelites

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in the New Testament. So if they call the Israelites black in the New Testament, then that means that's what they were.

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No, okay.

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What's everybody being for Halloween?

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I don't celebrate Halloween. Y'all celebrate Halloween?

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No.

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I'm gonna be Michael Jordan and I'm doing a very realistic version.

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You're gonna dunk the ball?

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Well, he don't play basketball now. I, I, I'm- He deal with white women though, so you ain't gotta change that.

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So you don't like Michael Jordan because he deals with white women?

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I didn't say I didn't like Michael Jordan.

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I'm asking you.

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No, I like Michael Jordan.

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Okay. Anyways, go ahead. I don't think they're gonna be able to dress up because they have that hat on.

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This is the costume.

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Works every year. It definitely is a costume.

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We have the holiday of Purim that we dress up.

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I don't, I look fly. I haven't had no problem in the women's department.

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I couldn't pull that off.

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Hey man, you gotta have some flavor with it.

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I mean it looks cool. You gotta have some flavor with it.

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You look like you're like level 100 in Raid Shadow Legends, but you don't look very serious. It's just a mobile game. I'm saying you look like you're from a mobile game. You're like the final, you're like the second final boss.

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Yeah, I was just saying look like somebody I would meet inside of a building. That was cold, I get one. What did he say?

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He said that was cold, that was false. You just called me a final boss. You are? Right, so you gotta fight to get to me.

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Yeah, but then I'm gonna fight you.

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Even your man passed it out after he heard that.

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Even he's with it.

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That's the moderator. And he's with it. Why are you trying to get him involved with it?

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He involved, listen, he was fine the whole time

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till I said that.

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He's sleeping.

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Listen.

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Aye, aye, that's what I'm gonna start saying, aye.

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If I could just respond to what he said.

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We won, you gotta be my manager.

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You already say aye.

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Well. as Orthodox Jews, we don't keep the written law per se, we keep the interpretation of it called the oral law.

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Sal, do you think African Americans, otherwise known as the real Jews, should be persecuted? And Black, do you think Sal should be persecuted?

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You want me to go first?

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You'll go first.

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Oh, OK.

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No, I don't think anyone should be persecuted. What is that?

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No.

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What was that?

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Go ahead. No, I do not want Sal to be persecuted.

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What about those two?

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Do you think he should be persecuted?

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I don't want, oh.

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You think he should be persecuted?

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No.

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No, nobody should be persecuted.

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Right, I don't think they should.

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I don't know if I agree with you.

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We're all equally the children of God.

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All of us equally. No, we're not all the children of God though. I don't think you should be persecuted though. But we're not all the children of God.

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Yeah, we seriously disagree.

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What's the trick there?

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God never said we was all the children of God.

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We are all equally beautiful children of God. People who are people of every race.

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There's no equality.

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When I went to school, there was that one little retarded kid in my class, I am not equal to him. It's insulting that you would imply that. But you're homeschool now. I wasn't for a majority of my life.

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God created all of us the way he did perfectly.

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Then why couldn't that guy speak English?

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Nah.

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It's above my pay grade.

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So then I proved you wrong. Point for the moderator. It seems like he agrees with me.

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I don't think we're all equal. There's no such thing as equality in the Bible. It don't exist.

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I'm not referencing the Bible.

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I'm referencing the teaching.

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In real life, in real life, in real life,

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nobody is equal. Somebody has to be over somebody. That's how you have order. If we're all equal, nobody can tell nobody what to do. So there's no such thing as equal.

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That's a separate conversation than equally loved by God. We're not all equally loved either. You can love your oldest and youngest child the same.

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In your Torah, in Amos, does he not say, you only have I known of all the families of the earth?

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Could I ask you a quick question?

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Wait, can he answer that first? I can. Yes or no? Did God say that?

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By the way, you're quoting the same book that says that the Jews will be brought back into Israel and never exiled again, which is what you see right now with the Jews. It says Israel.

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So where's Reuben, Manasseh, Gad, Nathali?

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Where are they at? There are tribes that we don't know where they are.

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So then that prophecy ain't fulfilled yet then. So now, can you answer my question? Does he say he only knows Israel in that book of Amos? He didn't say he only. You only have I known of all the families of the earth. That's what it says, yes or no.

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When you ask for a verse and not context, for example, when people talk about-

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He's talking about punishing us. That's the context of that verse because he only knows us out of the family.

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What do you think of Beyonce's country album?

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I'm just asking for a yes or no.

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Didn't he say that?

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Yeah, the new one, yeah. BeyoncΓ© is an Israelite, I think.

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Definitely, BeyoncΓ© is an Israelite.

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Wait, is she one of ours or one of yours?

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Ours.

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Okay.

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Yeah, she's not one of yours. I think Stoudamire is one of yours. And just for the record, when I say one of yours, when I mean like Judaism, we say black people are Israelites.

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All, sorry, just clarification, all black people are Israelites?

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Yeah, but not like African black.

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I don't, it's interesting because when you meet African people, they don't like African Americans. And when you meet these African Americans, they don't like the African people. Who's right here?

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Well, we're more right than them because our reason is twofold we're more right than them yeah I'm gonna tell you okay you're speaking in what you call ebonics no I didn't put no s on that one two for one day hammites we're not hammites with my mates yeah like a bug and biblical instrument and then historically they sold us in slavery I did not allow to make money all of a sudden they can do whatever they want but I don't have to love them or affiliate with them. Well I would make the argument

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that these are not the people who affiliate with Germans right? Well I would argue that

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if a Jewish man didn't want to associate with a German that would maybe not be the best

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thing. No but if he says I don't want to associate with a German everybody would say I get where you're coming from. I don't think to associate with a German, everybody would say, I get where you're coming from.

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I don't think that would be the general response actually. And plus.

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I think people do understand that. I don't think so. That's why they still lock up. Listen, they will lock up. Let them find a 90 year old German that had anything to do with World War II, I think it was.

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Yeah, but now you're changing the goalposts. You went from German to German in World War II. I'm just showing an example of when Jewish people have an offense or don't want to get along with Germans, it's understandable. So I just said it is.

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I just said it's not understandable.

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You know that the German government is like the biggest ally of Israel.

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We're incredible by force. Yes. I'm not I don't I don't disagree with I was about to start arguing on your side and then you had to bring it up again. But then, but our separation from the Africans is because of that. That's all I'm simply saying.

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To judge, I've led two trips to Germany where I've met children of Nazis who are the most incredible human beings I've met. And to hold them accountable for what their father did would be inappropriate.

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Does the Bible hold the sons of the fathers accountable?

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It says Ravens off to a one and four star.

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It says that.

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That is bad. I got Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry on my phone.

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Oh, you double down on them.

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Well, one league, but another league I'm four and one, but that league I'm like three and

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one. Talk to you guy right here. First round pick Jamar Chase.

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So I'm like three and one talk to you guy right here first round picture March a so

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But I got Joe Flacco though no no no yeah

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No, no Cincinnati just traded for Joe. Oh, did they really well? They gotta do something about brownie as he cannot and they gotta protect him cuz he older than burrow So they might have sacks and all kind of shit. Yeah, I

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Think I'm Bucky Irving in the second round. He's been out for a couple of weeks too, so we'll see. I think Nikola Jokic is the best basketball player of all time.

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The Torah does say that if you do something negative, you'll be held accountable. The only time the Torah says it, three or four generations because most people are raised by parents. They see their grandparents. And if you're lucky enough, you're held more accountable because you know how much it hurts people.

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It's the only time that the Torah makes that reference in terms of being held accountable.

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Yeah, Isaiah 14 and 21 says prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers.

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Shalom.

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Same idea.

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Shalom.

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Shalom.

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Shalom.

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If you repeat those verses. No, no, it was prayer slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers, meaning what their fathers did, the children are going to pay for.

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He's doing Ebonics again.

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What was the Ebonics part at that time?

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I don't understand half of the things you say.

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Half English, half Ebonics.

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Hey man, learn the English language instead of that accent shit you got going on.

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Everybody knows what I'm saying though.

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I would highly suggest. Everybody knows what I'm saying I think that you're sincere and I think that if truly if you studied Hebrew and read the Isaiah and the entire Jewish scriptures in Hebrew you would see a very different translation

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You don't understand understand it perfectly you and you know how you know I'm better at understanding anything you you need another book to understand a book you telling me I gotta read You need two books. I only need one. I don't end in the second book, you lost a point. I took a white man out like five weeks ago in a debate.

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When you tell somebody that you're superior, how are you also saying that that's not racist? What do you mean? To say that you're superior to another race.

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To think that I'm better than somebody is wrong?

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Well, it would be racist.

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I mean, what if, I mean what if I mean let's say if it was a black guy and I said I'm better than you or I'm superior to you No, it would never be racist I told a black person I mean I know it wouldn't so that everything you're making everything about race No, I asked about the feast days. You made it about race. I just said not right now being so calm down It's not about race. So you need to across. I just said not right now being superior. So calm down. It's not about race. So you need to relax.

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I just said I'm superior.

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Relax, son. And why did I say I'm superior? Because I don't need two books. I can read the Torah and the Most High gives me understanding. You said the Most High don't give you understanding. That's why you got to read two books.

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Correct. Our discussions can be based off the Bible alone, that's true. But in terms of knowing how to action the Bible, the commandments, it's impossible. When you take out, I'll give you an analogy. When you buy,

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when you don't believe in the most high,

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I have to say to you,

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I don't believe in God. How can you tell me what I believe?

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Because you just said the most high

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won't give you the understanding of the Torah. No. I told you before. The way that God created things was he created an imperfect world for us to perfect. If you take out a newspaper, a New York Times newspaper, and you read the headlines, you get the idea. But if you want to understand what happened, you need to read the body of the story, what actually happened. It's all in the Torah. No, it's not. The written law are the headlines. To understand how to action the Bible in terms of the mitzvahs, you need the

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Oral Law to explain it. We put our moderator to sleep. I'm sorry. Too much Torah.

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He wanted this, man! You're getting what you wanted, man!

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Complaining at me?

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Complaining?

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I have a headache from all of the ebonics. I'm enjoying this. Because it's like Hebrew ebonics. Bam, bam, bam in my fucking ear. Because it's like Hebrew ebonics

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To yell whack-ass English for hundreds of years man learn it you see how you learn to change your voice

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You can learn this ebonics. I don't want to learn your ebonics. I learned to change my voice to be taken more seriously Yeah, I don't want to sound like a gangster You look like a gangster. Anyway, Jewish now. Go ahead. I don't want to follow up on that. Sal believes that too. Sal, does he look like a gangster? He looks gangster. No, no. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. You look like a gangster. You know what actually pounding on that? He put a little Ebonics on it. Learn it. I can say gangster too, but if I change, I'm not even gonna go there. Anyways, um...

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Thank you.

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Perfect race car, because he's running.

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I did have a question for you. Just generally, you think that the black people are the chosen people, right?

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They're the best?

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We could be the best.

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That's not what I'm asking. I'm saying like just generally.

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Yeah, if you're the chosen people of God, you were created to be the best. Let's know what I'm asking. I'm saying like just generally? Yeah, if you're the chosen people of God, you were created to be the best.

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Okay, and I imagine you would want laws passed eventually to help subsidize these things.

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When you say like American laws?

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Generally laws, in multiple countries, if that's God will, in your opinion, right?

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No, no, no, no, no, actually no. It's a little simpler than that. All I would like is just for my people to repent from their sins, obey the most high, and then we can build and reestablish our own communities. And then the only thing I would want from-

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But at the top of society, you would want black people?

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Yes.

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Now let me ask you a question. Why, how and when- Under God though. At what point do you think that could happen? Who would ever get behind that besides black people?

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God will get behind it, which is my point.

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I guess that's an unarguable position on my end, so I guess there's nothing I can say.

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Historically that's true because when the children of Israel was in captivity in Egypt and they prayed to God, God sent Moses and destroyed them.

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It's not historically true that the top of society is African Americans. And I'm not being racist, I'm just being honest.

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No, nobody's seen the Israelites. Sal agrees. Sal, what do you think? Nobody's seen the 12 tribes be in that position except when we got in Jerusalem. That's why you saw Sheba come to Solomon to get that wisdom why because Israel was at the top why do we fall for our disobedience so our job is to get them back to being obedient to God and then we win. Sal what's your response? I'm just impressed

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on the strength of people's opinions I'm not disopinionated on it well I guess you they believe it's factual I'm a much more go with the flow guy so I feel like I'm caught in the crossfire here but I can appreciate everyone's sentiments. So you're like Jewish black Jewish black what do I agree with like that? Everyone here seems like really really great people. I'll bet you can't put that right. Despite opposing viewpoints and controversial viewpoints. You can have opposing viewpoints. They seem like kind people you know I don't I don't really

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want to get you know mixed up in the crossfire here. You're just standing on the fence. You won't take either side.

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That's right.

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When you talk about the chosen people, God is, my name is Brian Borenstein, right? Nobody, God didn't say Brian Borenstein, you're chosen. Jews don't believe that we're the chosen people. Doesn't say that anywhere in the Jewish scriptures. God offered the Bible to everybody, everybody said no.

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The Jews are the choosing people. He dropped all his toys off SpongeBob. We chose God and then he chose us for a set of responsibilities. But no Jew would ever say that we're better than anybody else. We don't believe we're... By the way, it does say that we are a priestly...

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If you keep the commandments, you will be above all nations.

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It says that we are a priestly nation and a light unto the nations.

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Does the Bible say, does God say, if you keep the commandments, you will be above all nations? No, not...

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Bungle.

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They don't say that?

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What are you saying?

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In Deuteronomy 28 and one, it says, if you observe and keep the law, statute, commandments, you will be above all nations on the earth. That's what it says.

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The way that you're espousing it, contextually, what it sounds like is that you're saying that we will rule over people. I didn't even get to rule in part.

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But am I correct with a part?

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You're talking about yourself.

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I'm asking him. I'm not talking about myself.

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Certain understandings can be misconstrued.

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Wait, before you say that, I just wanna say one.

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Just to finish really quick, so something like that.

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I'm trying to free his mind.

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I need to free his mind. There are different, you can look up to someone. So if somebody is someone who you want to strive to be, your parent, your father, your guardian, you look up to them. So we are a light above the nations, we strive to be onto the nations, we strive to be good people so people could look up, oh we would like to be like them.

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But what I'm saying, here's what I'm saying, what I said I wanted to free your mind, I'm not talking about me. Sometimes when you have conversations with scriptures, I'm only talking about the scriptures. That's why I say did God say, I didn't say that I say. So in Deuteronomy 28 and one, it says, if you keep these commandments, you would be above all nations on the earth.

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Now when you go to later verses like Isaiah 49, which I believe you're alluding to with the whole light thing, which I would probably disagree there, but I get that part. But that verse, God clearly says, you'll be above.

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Don't beat my pox.

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Don't what?

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Don't beat my pox.

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I'll leave it in, because I feel bad about the whole situation. It says above, right?

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Not exactly. situation or do you it says above not exactly but with every I just don't do repeat yes I have to bring in some new people that would have been messed up

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because I want to help you above comes into play there's an above like the Bible Proverbs says when the righteous on authority to people rejoice when the wicked on authority so there's an above that can bring about a tyrannical type of rule where it's painful, where it's slavery, et cetera, like that.

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Like what your leader might say.

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And then there's a righteous way to rule where it's not tyrannical, it's not slavery. So y'all ruling was slavery. When Israelites rule, it won't be like that. That's the difference, because Jewish people had a hand in slavery too.

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So did black people.

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Oh my God.

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Africans did.

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Africans did.

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Africans did.

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That's true.

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I agree. Listen, no white man went into a village. Africans brought them to the white man. I don't argue that. Like I'm an honest historian, I ain't got to lie about it. He's an honest historian you're talking to. I'm saying there were, unfortunately,

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there were Jews involved, but it wasn't a Jewish thing.

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Yeah, you know insurance companies, the ships? You know why insurance companies started? Because slaves was cargo, and they wanted to get paid if any of them slaves died on the way.

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Why would you wanna pay for one of them

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if you don't receive it? So you got banks,

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insurance companies, and North Carolina.

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One of the first Jewish slave masters was in North Carolina. Y'all was there too. That's why, you know what tripped me out? When white people want to be separate from Jewish people. Y'all the same white man.

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The same.

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Y'all just the creme de la creme of that white man.

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This is the most ridiculous. First of all, I'm not saying you are racist, but man, the way you talk is crazy.

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I appreciate you looking up to us.

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I appreciate the creme de la creme.

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No, I'm not looking up to y'all at all.

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I appreciate the creme de la creme.

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That's kind of nice.

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No, y'all the creme de la creme of your white tribes, is what I'm saying, not me.

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What people do now, If you went to Israel, you notice that most people who live in Israel migrated, right? There are people who are indigenous that we could trace back for thousands of years. And there are people who move from Iran, Saudi Arabia to say that Israelis are just the white strong Israelis like him. It's just a pure lack of knowledge. But you don't use that term with you? It just seems like a lot of angst and dislike toward other people coming from you as opposed to,

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if you're saying that you are representing God, wouldn't that be more about inclusivity?

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You know, telling the truth is...

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No, everyone's... I'm just gonna finish. Everywhere in the Torah, when it talks about, whenever God talks about people, there's a beautiful love between people. The utopian world, the messianic era, in the messianic era, if you wanna know

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the messianic prophecies, for example, look at Ezekiel chapter 37, the Valley of the Dry Bones. Right. prophecies, for example. Look at Ezekiel chapter 37, the Valley of the Dry Bones. Right, you'll see the messianic prophecies. But what are the things that you'll see? You'll see universal peace on earth. You'll see universal knowledge of God.

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We're talking about it.

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Not without war first, though.

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Well, how it comes about is a debate.

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With war first.

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Is a debate. There are different interpretations of things. But when you look at things in terms of the messianic era and things like this, it's all about peace, love, where Jewish people, people of all faiths, atheists, Muslims, Christians, we're all gonna get along.

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It's gonna be beautiful.

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So there's something called the uncomfortable truth, right? And so I know why when I'm saying the things that I'm saying and you say it comes across as racist because I want to move to the next topic

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Like can I get 20 seconds? No, it's okay But he's the boss I am by the way if you want to promote for black power and I can do

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By the way, it was a white power. I mean we've heard it for hundreds of years. Go ahead Sal

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White power.

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Ha ha ha ha.

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You know, I want to be a good guest.

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Okay.

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But I- It won't bother me, Sal. It won't bother me. I ain't saying that for you to say it, but I won't be bothered. Tisari, I'm not going to say that at all. Yeah, the dam yak. What is it? I don't know what that is. Crabbo? I don't know what that is.

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Anyways, I wanna do a little thing at the table here. Maybe it'll get us all on the same side. We'll start with Sal, then we'll go to you, then we'll go to you guys. Rank all of the races from worst to best. Starting with Sal.

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I'll actually answer as well after the Jews number one be human race no another fucking cop out you call it cop out this is where I my stance that's your true stance the human race I don't know what a little deeper into that then listen I'm giving you um you

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know I'm giving you I'm speaking my truth yeah like this is what I believe

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okay fine now you I would say the Jewish tribe Then the rest of his either my or American brothers. They're all tied. Yeah, that's one a one B

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so you

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That's why I said try because they're the same race. So you think that like a white person from Spain to you is the same as a Chinese guy No, I don't think I would look at them the same. No, same level of ranking from races. No, because the Chinese haven't even well, if he's living in the worst you're saying so if he's living in Spain, he I wouldn't I couldn't rank him because I don't have no interaction in America.

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I'm ranking primarily from America.

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I'm saying the whole world here.

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If I was to do the whole world, I would do like silent just say to humans

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Okay, what about you guys?

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Let them race Was that a pond or something crack a pool cue throw in the middle let them fight it out

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Can you shoot?

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I'd rather do the pool cue. What about you?

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Mini hot

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I shot pool last Saturday. I want six straight a mini-hot. Okay. Now let's talk basketball. I shot pool last Saturday. I won six straight. I only got off the table because I was going somewhere else. That's nice. You're a shark.

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No, I hadn't shot in a while.

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That's good. But it started feeling good when I was shooting.

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We should all go play pool together after this. Rosh Hashanah and there's not one. There's not one prayer in all of Rosh Hashanah about the Jewish people. Everything. It's about the creation of Adam the man. It's about human race all of us equally Rosh Hashanah is all about humanity. You go to a Christian Judaism or something. No, I'm a traditional Orthodox Jewish rabbi. And we're all equal. That's right. They call me rabs. That's right, that's right.

1:15:47

Rabs, like short for rabbi.

1:15:49

This is better than I thought.

1:15:52

I imagine everybody here thought it would be on Sirius.

1:15:56

No, I think it's been a little bit of both, Sirius, funny.

1:15:59

Sirius, Sirius. Just wanted to make sure to do the best available possible promo for Sal and his upcoming movie.

1:16:09

Oh, what movie you guys coming out, Sal?

1:16:12

Now I have a new talk show coming out called Manouche. It'll be on YouTube and wherever you get podcasts. It's coming out late fall, early winter.

1:16:21

Oh, you should bring me on, Sal.

1:16:22

Manouche, really, really big guest, really small talk. It's gonna be a lot of fun check that out. I'm on tour. He wants to go on Sal. Salvocanocomedy.com for tickets. I'm playing the Chicago Theatre November 14th, the Beacon Theatre New York December 27th. I'm playing the Ryman Theatre in Nashville April 12th. I got like 40 cities up I'm always adding cities so please check back there. I got season 12 of my television show airing right now on TBS

1:16:45

and my special Terrified is currently streaming on HBO Max.

1:16:48

Sal, are you gonna bring him on your talk show?

1:16:50

I'd love to have him.

1:16:50

Thank you, Sal. Yeah. Appreciate that.

1:16:53

I will donate $2,000 to charity. 1,000, I don't wanna do two. I'll donate $100 to charity if you bring him on your talk show he's welcome to come on the show a hundred dollars straight to charity I'll make you that deal okay

1:17:11

yeah this is a below but I don't know how to say it you're white I know you know how to say it to me what did you say about Loba yeah how do you say that you can read

1:17:22

right yeah how did you get another B in there? I'm telling you, it's because it's not like Ebonics. Like those little pictures.

1:17:28

What B? It's only one B.

1:17:30

What are you talking about?

1:17:31

You said baloba.

1:17:32

I said, I don't know how to say it. And I said, you say it,

1:17:35

cause you know how to speak English. with a guy in his spear. Probably, maybe. Okay, let me find another story. Now I gotta put my watch back to the right time. Sal doesn't believe in systemic racism.

1:17:56

Go ahead.

1:17:59

Anybody can join in on this one.

1:18:03

Why not, Sal?

1:18:04

What's up with that? How did you say that word again? systemic? Okay, he said it better the second time. First time you said it fucked up.

1:18:16

As sales rabbi, I'm advising him not to answer this question.

1:18:19

Well, where did you get that from? I would I state that I don't know where you pulled that from.

1:18:24

That's one of the things you said on your new thing you're doing. So I got to see it before it released.

1:18:30

Mnouch, my new talk show?

1:18:32

Something like that.

1:18:34

The one that's going to be out late fall, early winter on YouTube?

1:18:36

Yeah, I got shown something and it's you talking to an Israelite. I don't believe it just happened.

1:18:40

What's that? Wherever I can find my podcast. Yes, that's correct. Uh, you know, I didn't say that you're misquoting me. Yeah

1:18:46

Anyways, just joining on the debate discuss your thought process on that salad. By the way, I agree with you What do you think I don't believe in systemic racism, you know, no, okay fucking look at Obama

1:18:59

Mm-hmm. What about him?

1:19:03

Because you're black.

1:19:05

But Obama's African though.

1:19:07

To me, you know, I'm not, I don't believe in the funny stuff where, like you say all of the people in the world are black.

1:19:12

I can't help it if your education ain't up there yet. You're young, you got a lot of ways to start over.

1:19:15

You're creating your own education. That's not our own education. Think the reason you're confused is because you don't really know how to read English words you read pictures and your me

1:19:25

Well, I know how to read or not. I know every dark-skinned race is not the same people, you know, every dark skin

1:19:34

I like the way you pronounce people. He's pissed right now. Sal, he's fucking with you.

1:19:45

Literally what you just did.

1:19:46

He just got insert.

1:19:47

You are the same though.

1:19:48

No, he's pissed.

1:19:49

Oh my god. Me and Sal are the same. I can't help it if there's more melanated ethnicities than they are than your singular non-melanated ethnicity.

1:19:56

What? I'm actually like kind of flattered. Jewish. I always wanted to look Italian. No.

1:20:05

Hey, that's your brother, man.

1:20:06

I always wanted to look half Italian.

1:20:08

You almost home.

1:20:10

Can I recommend a conditioner?

1:20:12

Why, my hair is getting like an afro?

1:20:13

No, I just feel like I have something that's not, I don't know.

1:20:16

You got a good sense of humor, man.

1:20:17

You got a good sense of humor, man. I was I notice you're fiddling with a lot cuz he's when I'm getting sweaty my hair He's absorbing it and it turns into sort of like his style thing

1:20:30

What braids no you're like an afro style I'm saying your pay I sell this hair tonic to help you I don't use a business Potions and wizarding stuff no it's a hair tonic that I make.

1:20:46

It's a mixture.

1:20:46

You made it? It'll help, yeah, I made it myself.

1:20:49

Oh no, go ahead.

1:20:50

That is fucked up.

1:20:52

Yeah.

1:20:54

You check out my reviews, they're insane, man. Everybody. Listen, even though I had a white lady message me, She had this bad skin thing, skin problem. And then she used your thing and her hat fell off. And she asked me, so I made her unscented body butter, put some witch hazel on it.

1:21:09

Witch hazel?

1:21:10

Witch hazel, cleans it all up.

1:21:12

That's great for bug bites. Witch hazel.

1:21:15

Oh, yeah, targets the itch.

1:21:17

And I sell her body butter, and when she put the body butter, it helped her. See I even help white people with their skin problems. See that? I can't be racist.

1:21:29

That is how racism works. If you create body butter.

1:21:32

That's right.

1:21:32

That's why I have, that's my new thing. I'm gonna just do body butter.

1:21:35

Yeah, body butters man. Listen, go to carl.com, you can check it out.

1:21:39

No self promo.

1:21:40

Black Jew. We help Sal promote everything. That's the only promotion.

1:21:45

Black Jew, Black Jew, what's your advice so Sal can become less racist?

1:21:50

Sal's not racist at all.

1:21:52

No, that's what he said on his new program or whatever it is.

1:21:55

I would probably have to hear it, you know, like when you're on the internet, you know, there's a thing called content...

1:21:59

You should have heard it when I was walking him in the building. What'd he say? Fucking, I hope there's no fucking black people in there.

1:22:05

That's what he was telling me in my ear,

1:22:07

but he was saying he'd know.

1:22:08

You know what it seemed like? It seemed like when he got around a black guy, he changed.

1:22:12

That didn't say anything.

1:22:13

Because he's scared of you, you're dangerous looking. You might have a weapon. No, not in Cal on, you don't, you know, it's not about licensing with you.

1:22:25

Why?

1:22:26

We obey the law, we don't break the law.

1:22:28

All right.

1:22:29

Yeah, listen, I follow the law. Now if I had a license to carry, then maybe it'd be different.

1:22:35

I mean.

1:22:36

Anybody in here got a license to carry?

1:22:38

No.

1:22:38

No.

1:22:40

If you're going to Chicagoi, Chicago, we get to carry the Torah But by the way I don't I don't know if you thought about this but you could maybe mail Sal some of the body butters to help with his racism and eczema

1:22:57

Yeah, it mines help with eczema too because one of my sons had put their body butter on it

1:23:01

Once you're dealing with racism might as as well deal with the ex-muchest.

1:23:05

Get it.

1:23:06

This is a very general.

1:23:07

But Sal is clean.

1:23:08

This is a very general question. Anybody can answer it. Actually, no, we'll start with Sal. Then we'll go this time to you guys and then to the black guy, Jewish.

1:23:16

Then to the black guy.

1:23:17

Think whatever he is. It's confusing. I would like you to make the most convincing argument on why you think the other is wrong.

1:23:30

The other?

1:23:31

Yes.

1:23:32

The other who?

1:23:33

Him. You initially debated him at the beginning so you'll start with him.

1:23:37

Yeah, you know, the debate was short-lived and I didn't think we really bumped heads on anything.

1:23:42

I just kind of... Make your best argument, but you've heard him talk a lot since then. You agree with everything he said?

1:23:46

Wave up, yeah.

1:23:47

I would say this.

1:23:48

I would say to every point there is a counterpoint.

1:23:52

So make your best counterpoint to anything he said so far.

1:23:55

I'm fine with him believing what he wants to believe.

1:23:59

That's his pr the idea of it. You don't agree with it So you're gonna say you're a reason why you don't agree with it Format it the best way you can

1:24:12

Yeah, man. I said earlier. I'm not particularly religious and so I got your argument. Well. I really don't know I He's these they're both very well versed in You know These they're both very well versed in the you know What they're talking about I'm not I think I would not add to this debate or conversation And so how can I how can I debate him if I don't really? If I can't back up anything, I don't I can't fact-check him, and I don't know anything You know I'm not really part of you know. I'm saying I think you know what I'm saying here. It's like, what have I really added here except a warm body, you know?

1:24:45

You drank all the juice, you ate all the bread, I didn't even eat or drink anything.

1:24:49

I offered you multiple times.

1:24:50

I tried to promote my show a few times, you told me you're gonna beep it. I came here in good faith, pun intended, and I just, you know.

1:24:56

I fed white people for the record.

1:24:58

That was good.

1:24:59

I don't even know what he's talking about. You know what I'm saying? It's like, give me something that I have some education on, and maybe I can impart my thoughts. I know you want more than this from me, and I want to give you more, but it just seems illogical for me to dispute anything that was said here, because I am not someone in a position to speak to it.

1:25:24

You're just trying to confuse me and get out of it. You think that was confusing? Well, you're saying, oh, I really don't know anything, and if I said anything, you would be ignorant. I'm not gonna say anything. My name is Sal, and I have a promo to do.

1:25:38

What do you want me to say? Say what you told me about him before you got here. Say it to his face.

1:25:47

That's right. Say it to his face. Say it to his face.

1:25:51

You know, when we decided I would do the pod, I wasn't expecting this.

1:26:01

Right.

1:26:02

And it's really been something.

1:26:04

I just, as I said, I don't do episodes. And it's really been something. I just, as I said, I don't do episodes where the guest comes back.

1:26:09

I get it.

1:26:10

However, I will make an exception.

1:26:11

I have to applaud the creativity.

1:26:13

I think you should come back a lot and we can do this. You think I'm gonna come back a third time? I think we can do various styles of this show in the future. Okay, so what you're saying is you don't do repeat guests, but this can be a new thing. This can be like I come back more and more

1:26:27

and every single time you mix it up and it's something

1:26:30

I'll make you something brand new.

1:26:31

All right.

1:26:32

Well, I had a little sketch.

1:26:34

I had a nice time, you know, I had a nice time at times. Was I uncomfortable?

1:26:37

Yes.

1:26:38

Was I uncomfortable the entire time? Yes. But I like doing things that put me in new scenarios. I like keeping myself on my toes. And so maybe we'll do a couple of dozen of these. And maybe they'll go fantastic just like this every time. And maybe I'll have a flourishing promotional Avenue here. You know what I mean?

1:27:02

I know this is going gonna sell tickets for me. Me here today is gonna sell, my tour is gonna thrive.

1:27:13

Your tour is gonna blow up, that's correct. Your tour is gonna blow up.

1:27:18

You know the ticket sales, metaphorically it's gonna blow up.

1:27:23

Well I think to make a counterpoint, I mean him and his group, I can imagine a lot of them are in that theater you're performing at. I'm sure you'll sell a lot more tickets there.

1:27:34

Oh yeah, it'd be great.

1:27:35

Everyone please come bring friends, you know.

1:27:38

Let's be real, if you came and did a show and it was just people like him, not like black, just people who were dressed funny like this. You'd be a little scared.

1:27:45

Why?

1:27:47

But when we, let's say when he does his show.

1:27:50

I want to give you something, but I can't agree with this.

1:27:52

When he does his show though, we wouldn't call his show necessarily dressed like this.

1:27:55

Huh?

1:27:56

Like when he, I don't dress like this like everyday. I didn't tell you to dress like that? I didn't say you did, but I dress like this when it's appropriate, like if we're teaching. When it's raining. So the book of Ezekiel only applies when you're teaching?

1:28:10

What you said, what you read. No, I'm saying you said you read that because it's in the Bible. Oh, when it's about early. Yeah, yeah. So it only applies when you teach, not...

1:28:17

So like if I go to the gym, I'm not wearing this when I'm going to the gym. So the Bible says on condition that, that's when you wear it? Or? No, the Bible doesn't say, the Bible says when you're reading the scriptures or praying, you would have this on. But it doesn't say when you're working a job that you have to have this on. Now I know you need another book on this,

1:28:34

but I don't need it.

1:28:35

No heads up on this one. I thought you would- Body bag. I hope, I mean- Headshot. Which podcast did you enjoy more? Out of the two.

1:28:45

No, not really, just ignoring the ridiculousness of everything you'll see of it.

1:28:48

Consider it?

1:28:49

Yeah, last time I was attacked.

1:28:50

I think it's a cool hat.

1:28:51

That's true actually, I forgot about that. But if he was standing right here again,

1:28:56

and he got you again. bland and not biblical. It's old school. But not old old school like. That shit is bland and not biblical.

1:29:06

I think it has a little pizzazz, has a little character.

1:29:11

Anyways uh go ahead and make your best argument against. Against me. Against him in general anything about anything. He brought very interesting points but I feel like he lost it. No don't

1:29:20

compliment him No, it has to be against him I'm not asking you to win a debate against him I'm asking you to do your best point against him. You don't have to fluff it with it

1:29:34

He's a nice guy made nice points, but just you know, go straight straight to the jugular

1:29:46

No matter what points he brought across, he went for the hat. And I feel like that was just a low blow. Like you shouldn't have to go for the hat. If you have real points, don't mess with him.

1:29:52

You guys smashed.

1:29:53

You went for my hat. So that's what I'm saying. No, you know better.

1:29:58

You know better on that. I think it looks ridiculous too. I feel like he said it first and then you jumped in. No, no, uh-uh.

1:30:07

Let's play the tape. Can we show the tape?

1:30:09

I think that looks just as ridiculous. You have a lion on your face.

1:30:11

That's right, because I'm a lion.

1:30:12

It's fake diamonds.

1:30:14

I'm a lion. No, you're out of their mind too. No. Look what they did. No, you're not getting it. You're not a prophet in the body. Ezekiel, Isaiah, I'm a prophet now.

1:30:26

You named yourself captain and you can't even swim.

1:30:29

I didn't name myself captain. I was given that title.

1:30:32

You were given that title by who?

1:30:33

By the man that outranks me, Commander John Yohanan. Commander John Yohanan? You believe you're a prophet? Yeah, priest, prophet of the most high.

1:30:46

That's correct.

1:30:46

This guy's ridiculous. But that's what I'm saying. It's funny to have somebody here.

1:30:50

That's what they said about all the prophets.

1:30:52

This is a lovely chambray.

1:30:54

What about my thing here? It looks good?

1:30:56

Yeah, I mean, I'll give you credit for sitting with that through indoors, yeah.

1:31:01

Because that's what I'm not nice it's like a nice merino wool this is just a business style isn't breathable it's why you cooking under there it's hot under here but now I look serious everybody knows to take me seriously you didn't come to play no game yeah right did you answer yet against this thing I think you didn't get a word in honestly

1:31:20

the truth is I think that he's sincere about what he believes.

1:31:25

No compliments, just do the argument.

1:31:27

I fundamentally, there's not one, I fundamentally disagree with.

1:31:30

The best one, the biggest one.

1:31:32

I mean, I think, look, I think of a nature of being divisive as opposed to unifying, I think would be the one that I would lock onto in terms of being above other people.

1:31:44

Who are you talking about, Sal or the guy here?

1:31:47

We'll skip Sal for now, but Sal was pretty tough to listen. But no, Sal, look, this is about a belief, not about the person. And I think there are a lot of things I disagree with, practically everything that he said. But that being said, if I'm gonna harp on one, it'll be about the interpersonal relationships with other people.

1:32:08

God cares a lot more about how we are with each other than him. Doesn't care about how we are with him as much as he cares about how we are with each other. So anything that promotes divisiveness as opposed to unity, I'm going to be against that.

1:32:20

Now you The biggest argument that I had well, I don't have no issue with Sal at all nothing we saw Not one he escaped with no no damage. I wouldn't say escape but for somebody that was What is the word Derailed from what he thought it was. I thought he handled himself. Well, so I didn't I don't have no issue I didn't know what I was walking into right three hours. So and I don't have no issue. I didn't know what I was walking into. Right, right, his was three hours. And I don't have a personal issue with nobody. These are just discussions.

1:32:47

Like, we have to be men when you have conversations. Sometimes the truth hurts. The biggest argument is when he said that God can't give him the understanding of the Torah, he needs another book to understand that. That is diabolical because God gave the children of Israel.

1:33:03

You heard that?

1:33:05

God gave the children of Israel one book. That's the book they read, and that's the book they understood. And that's where you separate the difference between the men and the boys. That's the biggest argument that I got.

1:33:15

You a little kid.

1:33:17

What he said. That was dope.

1:33:20

He a grown man. Okay, let's continue.

1:33:28

Do we have time to vote money in the meter?

1:33:30

Always about money.

1:33:32

Definitely Jewish.

1:33:34

No doubt about it.

1:33:35

No.

1:33:38

Now you like three for three, back to back to back.

1:33:41

Yeah, but the other two were insulting you, you know that, right? No. I was insulting your way of speaking and saying it sounded funny basically. Not the last to back. Yeah, but the other two were insulting you. You know that, right? No. I was insulting your way of speaking and saying it sounded funny basically.

1:33:46

Not the last two pumps.

1:33:49

Pause.

1:33:50

When I said you were a little, that you're a grown man, you think I was serious?

1:33:54

Yes.

1:33:54

Is that thing like stopping the blood

1:33:57

from going through your brain?

1:33:58

It flows real good.

1:33:59

It's fly too. Can I see it? No. Can I wear it? No. Why? Because you're not an Israelite.

1:34:05

So what, I can't wear it because I'm not an Israelite?

1:34:06

That's right.

1:34:07

What if I agree to become one?

1:34:09

You can't agree to become one, you're born one.

1:34:12

What if he gives you some money?

1:34:13

You didn't even gave up your own culture.

1:34:14

What about where it talks about conversion?

1:34:16

What about where the Bible talks about conversion? and wear my headpiece. Anybody would, the better word. Would you let Sal wear it? The Sal, no, but Sal says he's Italian, so he would be white too, so he couldn't wear it. But, I wouldn't use the word conversion, but I would use the word citizen. So if someone was living in our city,

1:34:38

we wouldn't mistreat them. Like, it's not about bullying another ethnicity because they're not my race of people. I would deal with them fair.

1:34:46

The Bible says-

1:34:47

But there's certain rules that makes Israelites separate.

1:34:51

The Bible very clearly says-

1:34:53

Like if you lend money to a non-Israelite, you can charge him interest. Yes. But if you lend money to an Israelite, you cannot charge him interest.

1:35:02

Yes.

1:35:03

Because there's a difference.

1:35:03

That's how you act, but it doesn't that's not how I'm at that is true and

1:35:07

it also says that when you have specifically says these three people, it says the convert the orphan and the

1:35:14

widow. Well, orphan and the widow could be a Israelite too. Well, right, but they're all with converts or citizens. It don't say convert in the Bible. That's why citizen is better. If a stranger that's a non-Israelite lives amongst us, they would have the same rights as us, but there's certain things like every Israelite is not a priest. So

1:35:33

every Israelite wouldn't wear a that's that's true. Every convert is an Israelite. It would be would be not a not a not a Levite or a priest. that's true. Right, so that's what I'm saying. So you're wearing that because you're priestly. Right.

1:35:45

Okay, that makes more sense. Right.

1:35:47

That makes more sense. Yeah, that's what I was saying. It's not about everything.

1:35:49

I know because maybe-

1:35:50

But you do agree that like converts can join.

1:35:53

If a citizen, if would follow the laws, they would do everything like us, they would be a citizen no different. So do you keep... They would still be an Ishmaelite. They would just be like a citizen like when Elon Musk who's South African comes to America. He's an American citizen but he's still South African.

1:36:21

South Africa is the best country in Africa.

1:36:23

Do you actually keep the Torah? Like, you keep the Sabbath?

1:36:26

Yes, I keep the Sabbath. We just did Day of Atonement. We did a feast day last Sunday, this past Sunday.

1:36:34

So when it says to afflict your souls on the Day of Atonement, right, in Yom Kippur, so how do you afflict your soul?

1:36:42

We fast.

1:36:43

Why? I mean, it just, it says it's a day of affliction. How do you know how to afflict your soul without an interpretation?

1:36:48

Because you see Daniel doing the same thing. Like we fast, no food.

1:36:51

Daniel, how do you keep the Sabbath? How do you kill an animal before you eat it?

1:36:55

The Sabbath is very simple. You don't do that on your day.

1:37:05

In Hebrew, it's interesting, in Hebrew, there are two words for work. One is avoda, one is malacha. Avoda is like you go to your job. It doesn't say that. It says malacha. It's a different type of work. It's a creative type of work. It has nothing, if I wanted to be a waiter on the Sabbath, as an Orthodox Jew, I could be. There are 39 categories of law that it cannot do. Jesus Christ, that's on the Talmud, right? No, so wait.

1:37:27

There are two definitions of order, two words, avoda and malacha. Avoda, if I wanted to be a waiter, somebody wanted to pay me money to be a waiter on the Sabbath, I could be a waiter at a bar mitzvah, for example. But I couldn't use an eraser.

1:37:40

I couldn't take a pen and write because there are 39 actions of creativity that God somehow

1:37:47

There's something that you getting out of the town mood. It's just simpler than that for us Okay, if you if you was my boss on a Sabbath, I don't work for you on that day That's my day to do what I want. That's what the Sabbath was made for to rest from your labor Is that is that simple? That's how the Sabbath was made for to rest from your labor. It's that is that simple That's how simple that is

1:38:09

And they gave you all the bread. Yeah, I'll take more got the bread. Well, he kept taking it

1:38:13

I was just trying to be nice. No, no, I'm not complaining about You what you want the bread? No, no. No, I don't want none of the bread. I just said I didn't it's gonna sit well that's all of the time we have we're gonna have to end it here because I'll have I have to do my next episode it'll be we are it'll be cheers an actual fight. It won't be a debate. Well, it'll be a debate but like a real fight Between long neck and you if you're willing to join her I'll find somebody else He's a little scrawny piece of shit. There's a big neck. It's in the name

1:38:58

I'll even let you use that weapon against him. You could take it off. It probably can I touch it? No, I'm not allowed to touch it? I just wanna feel what it's made out of.

1:39:08

No, maybe when, maybe, I don't know.

1:39:10

Can I touch it?

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I'll tell the audience who I am.

1:39:13

Sure.

1:39:14

My name is Brian Borenstein. I'm in charge, I work for the Orthodox Union, and I'm the West Coast Regional Director for NCSY which is the high school programming and I'm an Orthodox rabbi out here in Los Angeles. Sal go ahead. Actually we'll do Sal last. Now you

1:39:29

go rabbi whatever. My name is Menachem Silverstein. I'm a rabbi and comedian. See me at the Laugh Hactor every Thursday at 10 p.m.

1:39:39

I'm Captain Tizar Yac of ISUPK under command of General Yohanna. I'm a priest and prophet.

1:39:47

You have to admit, your guys' names are very funny.

1:39:49

Our names are fire. You just ain't never heard them before. Just like nobody heard your language before, that you speak and then you got accustomed to your voice.

1:39:56

Well, when I'm speaking, it's pretty clear. No, I'm talking about you have a voice. And nobody ever heard your name. He's like, you never heard somebody named Bread and Water? That would be a ridiculous name.

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Or just be unique.

1:40:07

This guy's not serious.

1:40:08

Hey, that's unique, man. How did you get that name?

1:40:11

Oh, nice to meet you, Bread and Water.

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Like that, you're gonna be like telling me.

1:40:15

But when you got my name, you say, hey, come on, man, let's do this show.

1:40:18

See that, see how it works? Not because of your name I needed somebody here to debate the Jews and Sal what mostly sell so I'll go ahead now

1:40:25

It's your turn. My name is Sal Vulcano I'm a stand-up comedian and a producer and a writer and stuff like that I have a tour it's called the everything's fine tour it's a brand new hour of material if you see my special terrified streaming on h2o max is a brand new hour and You can get ticketed Sal Vulvocountercomedy.com. I'm touring all the way through 2026.

1:40:46

I'm always adding dates and cities. Got a new talk show called Manouche coming out toward the end of the year. And season 12 of Impractical Jokers is now airing on TBS.

1:40:56

And let's be fair and give Sal some credit, because truly he did know what was happening today. And a lot of comedians wouldn't agree to something like this. They would want to stay safe while Sal was willing to get in the middle of this heated debate.

1:41:08

I am known for being very edgy.

1:41:10

Right. Yeah.

1:41:12

Good job, Sal.

1:41:12

Okay, well, that's it. We're done.

1:41:14

Thank you.

1:41:15

Thank you very much.

1:41:16

Thank you, guys.

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Video. Video.

1:41:20

Did you have fun, Sal?

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