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Do you agree with the arrest of the Venezuelan president?

Or with the kidnapping of the president of the United States?

Trump said it clearly, that he wanted to take back our oil, which should be our right. He said that. Why did he try to take back the oil? Because the number one oil buyer in Venezuela was... The team that was on duty to kidnap the kidnapping, when everything is already destroyed, right? They went down to chase Maduro.

Maduro, at that time, according to various sources, he was...

According to my belief...

The key is now, right?

According to my belief, you agree with the president of Venezuela being arrested or kidnapped by America. You agree, right? No. I watched your video.

Which one? A few months ago, about Venezuela.

Yes.

Venezuela's inflation is 300,000%. Yes, in 2017. In 2017. And then there's the chaos. Tell us about the chaos in Venezuela first.

Just what you remember. From the Venezuelan side, how it's chaotic. Venezuela was rich. They were rich in oil. They got a lot of profit from oil. Moreover, the taxes of foreign oil companies that board there are constantly increased.

From 50-50, 65-35, 70-30, until the era of Hugo Chavez, they controlled it all. Then in 2007, if I'm not mistaken, they evicted everyone. So, everything was owned by Venezuelans. It was a very rich country. The subsidies were increased.

And if I'm not mistaken, the price of oil there for the people was cheap. Almost free.

But the people were also poor, right? Yes. And the people were bought. They were sold to the people. So, the mafia was also a people, right?

Yes. So, the big subsidies, the people, the wealth. Suddenly, the oil price dropped. The oil price dropped. They got caught there. Because they usually get covered by oil only.

They are really an ethereal country. They got caught there. It started to drop from Gocha Fest. Until Gocha Fest died and replaced by the representative who is now arrested. Maduro. Well, it turns out that Maduro is more of a scoundrel than Gocha Fest.

He already... because of debts everywhere, he printed money. A lot of money. Inflation, 300,000%.

300,000% inflation in Venezuela. What inflation? 300,000% inflation, how is that?

The price of chicken. The price of chicken is like 1.6 Boliviar. If I'm not mistaken.

What about Indonesia? The price of chicken, for example, we buy a chicken leg. 30,000, how much will it cost?

It's around a million, maybe. 300,000%.

300,000%?

If we buy fried chicken, it's around Rp. 10,000.

Let's say it's Rp. 15,000 for one piece of fried chicken.

300,000%! A million! That's why, 70% of the Venezuelan population immediately fell into poverty. And in that year, the comparison is that the rich people in Venezuela are only 10%.

The middle class is 8%. The rest are poor. So, only 80% of the people are poor. And the other 50% of the people, I forgot the exact number, more than 50% are extremely poor.

What do you mean by poor? Do you mean like the poor people in Indonesia? Or like the poor people in Venezuela?

If you compare them.

If we compare them to the poor people in Indonesia, the extreme poor people are really poor. Like those who don't have a house. The poverty standard is 50% of the people. That's the ones who are really starving. But there's a social service there.

There wasn't.

It was in the time of Hugo Chavez. In the time of Maduro, there was no inflation. That's why the people are demoralized. They say that 7.8 million people have fled. They fled, that's right. And the demoralized ones, there's a blessing, right?

In 2017, after the inflation, they were demoralized. In 2019, the problem is that they were killed. The demoralized ones. That's it. From there, they got a lot of sanctions. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

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No, it's different Why haven't you made a video about this? I have, I'm editing it So, do you think the US government or Trump Specifically Trump, we're talking about Trump Anyway, he just changed the food table.

What? Changed how?

The food table.

Oh, Trump.

He changed it. So, the food is changed. From top to bottom, it has to be protein first. This, this, this, and then the bottom. In the past, in America, it was from ultra processed food. Yes, a lot of ultra processed food.

I'm not sure about that now. But it's good.

It's good. It's really good.

So, it's real food. It's good. Now, Maduro. Why did he do that? And do you think it's appropriate?

Actually, if we go back a little bit, America has been giving bounty to Maduro since 2020.

How many million?

At first, 15 million. 15 million. It went up to 25 million after 2024. After the 2024 election, Maduro was re-elected. Three periods. It went up.

Then it went up again to 50 million. 50 million, right? 50 million.

But I don't understand. I mean, America gives Bonti, Bonti is alive, right?

Bonti is alive.

Bonti is alive, right? They give Bonti 50 million. For anyone who can catch him. How do you expect people to catch the president in another country? I'm an American citizen.

I want to catch Maduro.

It's impossible, bro. Well, from what I see, they're a long story, Om. They put in first, these people are evil. We give them a bond, we put them in first. No one can arrest them, so we just arrest them. So that we get permission now.

So, they're used to it first.

Used to it first, conditioned first. Although according to the ICC, Maduro is also a criminal. But there are some current leaders who are also...

Russia too, right?

What?

Russia too, right?

Putin too. Only one has a bounty, and that's Maduro. Only him? Okay.

If it's Putin, it's a bit difficult to catch.

That's even more difficult. And he also said that he's a criminal.

Just saying. Just like that.

Just talking.

Okay.

So?

From there,

it's been used. Finally, they smoothed it out. The arrest yesterday. Trump was told, he said it clearly, we want to take back our oil.

Which should be our right.

He said it clearly, that he wanted to take back our oil. That it should be our right. He said that.

Besides the cartel, the weapons. He was there. He felt that Venezuela's oil was their right.

Why?

Because when the oil was first found in Venezuela... It was first found in the early 1900s, around 1914. The one who found it wasn't directly from Venezuela. There were several groups. There was America there.

But it was a country of people.

That's right. Then in 1922, the big oil field was found by Royal Dutch Shell. Royal Dutch Shell. Okay, 1922. Then they worked with Akrab oil company. Akrab, Akrab, Akrab.

But like I said, the tax was getting bigger and bigger. From 1950, 1965.

The point is, maybe Trump thinks you broke the business agreement.

That's right. Until they were evicted, Trump felt that we were illegally evicted from Venezuela. We have a right there. That's what we're going to get. He forgot that it's still a country of people.

Yes, a country of people. And if you say he has a right, he has a right in business, maybe he has it written as a bond, that he must get it. But this time, everything is being taken away.

Yes, that's his reason. When a country is like that, who does the country belong to? Who does the country belong to? This is a fall, actually it's already aggressive. Yes, he said we have a part there. So, it's his.

Yes, that's not allowed. Even in the PBB charter. I read the PBB charter, Article 2, verse 4. A country cannot use its military power to other countries. That's very clear.

It's already a violation. It's very clear. Then, yes. It's already clear.

Then, where's the PBB?

What do you think?

The Senate.

Since yesterday, the Senate has always been there. But, let's go back. In the PBB, there are those who have veto rights.

Yes, they are.

So, what's the PBB like? And it turns out that they are not members of the ICC. No? No. So the ICC can't do anything.

I see.

Wow, that's crazy.

But it's interesting. I mean, first, okay. What do you think is the main goal? Oil?

Oil.

That's it?

Oil.

Oil.

Oil.

If Venezuela is oil. So, this is not a matter of Maduro. Why is it oil? Because the number one oil buyer in Venezuela is... China. Correct. So, the problem in your opinion is because China bought oil from Venezuela, America didn't get it,

they have to fight for it.

They have to fight for it. Because of their fight, the possibility of access to China is blocked or reduced at least. China is in trouble. Their oil supply is not as usual. But do the Americans need oil?

Besides that, the Americans also need it. Yesterday, a 50 million barrel deal was sold to Trump.

What about the narcotics?

That's the accusation. But it's also true to believe.

It's true to believe?

It's true to believe.

But if it's just that, I don't think it will be handled like this.

Yes, it's true. It's true to believe. That's why when Maduro was arrested, when he arrived in New York, the person who accompanied him was a DA. A cartel, a cartel.

Not a political prisoner, not a war criminal, but a cartel. And now he's in the same prison as P.D.D. In Brooklyn. I don't know. So, the oil-pumping people are all there. But P.D.D. is different.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Okay, okay, okay.

So, if Trump also gave a condition, if Venezuela wanted to help its economy, at that time, it was not allowed to do business with China, Iran, Cuba, or Russia. So, this is actually a conflict of some sort, right? Yes.

Right? Yes, right. Okay. Well, I have a question. I know the answer, but I want to discuss it with you. How can a president be taken in the middle of the night?

Okay.

From the Delta Force.

Yes. So, America has been attacking Venezuela since September. From the tanks that were attacked. There were a lot of casualties. From the accumulation of several tanks, there were hundreds of casualties. From those who were told to bring weapons to Iran,

to bring illegal oil. There are many reasons.

From there, they kept getting closer. These hundreds of casualties, are they the Venezuelan hundreds of casualties?

Venezuelan. From the ships that were attacked. Okay. They were getting closer and closer until they were in a position like a Venezuelan shrimp. On that day, from what I learned, the American attack was divided into three phases. First, they hacked electricity and the internet. They turned everything off.

Oh, at that time?

At that time. At 2 o'clock at night. America hacked the electricity and the internet? All turned off. Their communication was messy, right? Then, they attacked the military bases which were supposed to be able to attack back.

Was it physically attacked?

Physically. That's what the American military said. That night, they sent 150 planes to attack. And drones. Phase 2, they were attacked. They were physically attacked.

Maduro's position is in Fortuna. Fortuna is like the American Pentagon. That's why it shouldn't be taken. And it should be difficult. Why? Because he's in the middle of the hill. So, around the hill, there are many bases. It was destroyed first in the middle of the hill. So, he was in the middle of the hill, and there were many fences.

Everything was destroyed in phase 2.

Physically?

Physically destroyed. Then, the team that was on duty to kidnap him, when everything was destroyed, went down to chase Maduro. At that time, according to various sources, Maduro was sleeping. He woke up, and there was a bunker. There was a bunker, and I ran to the bunker.

But I don't know, maybe I was still confused, I woke up, I was sleeping, I panicked or something. The bunker was not locked.

Oh, Maduro was in the bunker?

Yes, he was in the safe house. But the bunker was not locked. The team that was in charge of taking him was robbed. They took him right away. But in that time, the whole operation was 2.5 hours. At 4 PM... 2.5 hours is the arresting operation or...

Including the hacking.

Oh, that's 2.5 hours. From hacking, physical attack, to arresting.

It didn't reach 2.5 hours. Between 2 hours and 2.5 hours. So, for example, it starts at 2. At 4, it's already past. Maduro is already in Iwo Jima, already in Kapal Selem.

Wow.

Can you imagine? So, you're a Venezuelan. You live far from Caracas, from the capital. You sleep at 12, right?

I wake up, my president is gone.

Crazy, right?

Wow, crazy. I'm going to go kill you. I'm just going to talk to people here. But it's only 2.5 hours, right?

2.5 hours. The president of a country can be arrested.

Arrested? Like a police officer, right?

Yes.

Is there any indication, any intel, any close people, and so on?

I think there are some close people. From September, when they started attacking, they have been slowly putting it out. They have been slowly putting it out.

Yes. Wow, crazy. It's so sudden.

Terrible.

Well, there is no... Does that mean there is no bloodshed there?

It happens.

It happens?

Still... There was a bloodbath there. It happened. It happened. Until the last update I read, there were 80 people who died. The majority were soldiers, but there were also civilians who were hit. Because there were several... If you go to his place? His place... Maduro.

Maduro. There were soldiers there. The ones in his house. There were still gunshots.

It's like a PM, right? Yes.

The ones around him. But I don't know the details, for example, how many people are guarding Maduro. The total is 80.

Is there a Delta Force that got hit?

As far as I know, there isn't. All from Venezuela, right? Because if there is, the US would immediately announce it. They are very playing victim. That's why my question is 80. All from Venezuela. My question is 80. Are there any from the US? All Venezuelans. As far as I know, there are none.

According to our beliefs. According to our beliefs. Who knows? Maybe there are. We don't know. Maybe there are, but it hasn't been announced yet. Because after the incident that was really announced, we were able to catch it.

Then we were challenged to 150 planes. We were targeted with precise operations it was really proud of us because there was no report of casualties Did you follow Saddam Hussein's arrest? I did

Like this? It's similar But if I remember correctly, Saddam Hussein was also helped by the British Yes, that's right And the accusation was that they have a weapon of mass destruction. And actually, they've already negotiated with the PBB and all that.

Iraq is actually already in a state of disarray. But they were pushed back. They were pushed back when they said, oh, this is already a problem. But they don't have the weapon now. That's why the water is gone. When asked why the US water is removed from Iraq, it turns out that the weapon is not there.

Yes, right? America, the US, Iraq, and they don't have any weapons. Right? It's crazy. They're already being punished. They're already being punished. Here, this is sad. There's a video. That person, if I'm not mistaken, he has a workshop. Saddam Hussein likes to do motor service there. When he was attacked by America,

there was a statue of Saddam Hussein in Rome. He was one of the ones who robbed. Him? I'm I feel bad for him. He's like that in Libya. He's like that in Libya. Yes, all of them are like that. Libya is a very bad country, the president. Gaddafi?

Gaddafi is on the streets.

Yes, yes, he's on the streets.

He's on the streets.

He's being beaten up a little bit.

He's being beaten up.

Yes.

He's on the streets? Gaddafi is his country, right?

Is it the same country?

I've discussed Libya, but I forgot the details. Iraq is more or less the same. Iraq is the same. Now, it's Greenland. It's going to be a mess with Denmark. I've discussed that in the video 8 months ago.

Okay, for those who don't understand, let's talk about Greenland.

Why did the US want Greenland? The US has always wanted Greenland. Since I forgot, it was in the 1930s, they had already offered to Denmark. They had bid. I said, Is, they have offered to Denmark, they have bid. I'll buy Greenland, I'll buy, I'll buy. After they bought Alaska from Russia,

they got Alaska, they said, oh, Greenland too, but it was rejected. After it was rejected, the funny thing is, after it was rejected, what did they announce? We don't buy Greenland. Why?

Because if we buy other countries, it's the same as us colonizing. We don't want to, we don't agree. They said that.

At first.

Yes, that was still in the 1930s. But they kept trying, right? Well, in the first pre-Euda Trump, he immediately wanted more. Because he saw here, Greenland is rich in minerals. Oil, which is rare. The nominal is really big. Then, ice started to melt.

So, there's a new trade route through the Arctic. So, we don't have to go through Trans-Suez. If there's a problem here, we can go through there. No one has yet to control it. Third, the US territory in the Arctic is really small. Compared to Denmark, compared to Russia.

They're just Alaska piece of cake. They feel dangerous there. And after they had a fight with Russia and China, they feel that Greenland is important to monitor their activities. From the...

The troops are there.

Yes. That's why they're coming here more and more. They want to control Greenland. But they say it's for international security, not for our security.

That's it.

We just talk about it. What is Indonesia looking for? With other countries.

It used to be a spice, right?

It used to be a spice.

But it's not...

But it's still a spice factory.

Our mining is still interesting. Our mining is still interesting. That's what people are looking for. If it's from a natural resource, what else do you think?

So, if we talk like that, all countries,

with their own resources they have to pay. That's what's being problematic now. With the US attacking this, and if they really do this to Venezuela, and there's no consequence for them, other countries can join in. For example, China.

China and Taiwan are getting more and more sharp now. If China takes Taiwan, and says, America went to Venezuela yesterday, it's okay. I mean, I went to the place I thought was my own territory.

Yes, yes.

Actually, if China goes to Taiwan, it's more reasonable.

Actually, yes.

That's the history.

That's part of China, the story is that there was an agreement.

Yes, that's right. What's interesting is that after Venezuela, China said that no country can feel like an international police force. The problem is America. They don't become an international police force. They become international judges. They immediately take and judge. So, back to my question earlier.

If this happens it's allowed,

it means that other countries...

The ones below.

The ones below, which is almost all of them, except for a few countries, you have to follow it.

That's the problem now. What about our fate? It can happen anywhere.

I was just talking.

I was waiting for the information to come out. But I want to ask you. From your knowledge, from Kemhan and all kinds of things, does this approach World War III?

Hopefully not.

Hopefully not.

There's no conversation there yet.

There's no conversation there yet. Hopefully not.

But we've also created food security. It's connected.

Food security is not just about... People think, what is food security?

This and that.

At least when it comes to food, it's a daily necessity.

It's a primary.

We can survive with food security. At least we are able to do that. Because we have to be smart too. If I'm out to leave all that I have, that's why we're non-blocking the context. But, I'm talking as a person,

but in my opinion, if you're non-blocking, there are moments when you're not.

If you're non-blocking, you have to choose. There must be times when you can't be non-blocking.

You have to decide which one to choose.

That's a war. It's a war too.

Okay, food security.

Food security.

Defense. Is it safe if there is this?

I don't have the right to talk about this. But we prepare it with great care. But it's not a secret anymore. If you compare it with America, China, they have their show off like that.

That's right.

But we have an extraordinary power in the projects. The STM, right?

That's why we make a place here and there. Because our judges are amazing. Since the beginning, when Indonesia was attacked, the guerrilla was difficult to handle. The guerrilla was always the main target. If technology and so on...

I'm sorry, but as a person, everyone understands that if you're going to fight America, we don't have to talk about defense. We can talk about movies. We can talk about car technology. I think cars are losing to China now. The Chinese are doing better than the US.

Have you seen the robots that Tesla made? The Chinese made it.

The Chinese X-Plane.

It's more terrifying.

Damn, it's like a human, Sir.

Yes.

Crazy, I saw it like that.

Wow, this is crazy.

Crazy.

China is really chasing it.

Yes.

And then they have defense, the technology is also suddenly made. It's really scary.

Oh, the latest update I just read. What? It's the law. Including some of the PBB's organizations, they want to leave.

But if later, for example, people ask, when America attacked Venezuela, what's the difference with when Russia attacked Ukraine?

If Russia, Ukraine, the fall is still a war.

Still a war?

Still a war. Even though the first one to attack was Russia. They were at war. Later, we will be asked, what did Russia get from attacking Ukraine? At that time, the problem was because Ukraine wanted to join NATO.

Yes, but is it just because of that or is there something different? I haven't got anything that Russia is targeting Ukraine. Although, in their history, Ukraine was once their territory. Then there are rumors that Russia is trying to take back their territory. It's like China and Taiwan. But because they are joined by NATO, it's more dangerous.

Because at that time, they were given the choice, Because you can't join. Yes, that's right.

But they still joined.

And the Russian consideration, because if they joined NATO, America can put the missiles in front of the house.

In front of the house. But yesterday I read, there was a comment. He said, Russia attacks Ukraine until now, it's not over. America to Venezuela, and it took an hour.

That's it. Maybe it's because they have different targets. America wants to take the lead.

But this one wants to...

Yeah, they have different targets. Because I think Russia is also very strong. Russia is also very strong.

But they're still a war.

Still a war. Still fighting each other. In Russia, there were casualties.

Yeah, the context is war.

The context is war. But this is stealing. Stealing.

It's so scary.

The outfit that Maduro was photographed with is immediately sold out. The jacket. Sold out right away. I'm not going to get to the point. I'm not going to get to the point. I'm not going to get to the point. I'm not going to get to the point. I'm not going to get to the point. I'm not going to get to the point. I'm not going to you like this. I've been like this since I was a kid. In the news world back then.

Seriously? I was in elementary school. In the news world. Back then, the gold screen at 9 o'clock was cut off.

Yes, that's right.

In the news world. I waited for the last segment. Because it was always international news. The opening segment was about the wars in Bosnia, weapons. I always want to know what's happening in the world. Why? Just curious.

Why? I mean, is it small?

Because the world is big. You're in trouble, you don't have money, you can't go abroad.

That's right.

That's right.

Usually there's no trauma, I want to know what's going on abroad.

Yes, because I watch movies, like, oh, America is like this. But what's the real thing go into the national segment. I like it, that's what I watched. When I was in elementary school, if there was still domestic news, I was bored, I left. The golden age is not important, right? I still wait for the golden age, until I'm half ten. The golden age is really old, right? The audience understands.

From there, it continues to develop. So, the bigger we get, the more we get here, the more we get knowledge and so on. That's it. How do you get all the information? Now we can do CCPT, etc. At that time, where did you get the information?

News, I can only watch TV, newspaper. I always buy newspaper at home. My father is a newspaper salesman. So, I saw it. From the magazines too. So, you compiled it? I compiled everything. I connected the dots.

Even though I didn't know if it was true or not. I just knew it was like this. If there's a news, I'll be like, Oh, it's true. I'm proud.

But it's interesting.

Yes.

So, in your opinion, you are interested in international news, right? Yes. I want to know about this. Our society, or people in general, are they important to know about international issues?

Or our society should be like, whatever, it's not my president.

Whatever, it's not my country. It should be important, because whatever happens, it will definitely have an impact on us. Whatever happens, it will have an impact on us. Whatever happens outside, whether it's now or in the future, it will have a slight effect.

Sooner or later. Sooner or later, it will have an effect. Whatever it is. Venezuela will definitely have an impact on us. Especially with the oil issue. If it's not enough for China, what will happen to us?

There will be a connection.

And we as a country that is not that big,

we will be under pressure. And one more thing, so that we don't get eaten by foreign propaganda.

Oh, this is interesting.

I see it like this, Om. Now, like yesterday, I'm just making a drill. I'm just telling you why the Venezuelan president is considered a fool. He was given a bounty by the US. At first, I was already a disclaimer. I didn't allow Trump's actions.

Trump is a fool, and all that. Then I explained. Still, I was're defending Trump. Even though our country is non-bloc. We can see it from various angles. And I see what's interesting. Since the Russian-Ukrainian war,

the younger generation, maybe in high school, they're very Russian. They're very loud. I talked to some kids, if they can go to study abroad, where do they want to go? To Russia. Why? I admire Putin.

Without knowing the context. Yes. That's why I always say, don't you dare to avoid the propaganda of this side, but because you hate it, you become of propaganda. So, I'm anti-American, I don't want to, I don't want to. Without you knowing, you're eating Russian or Chinese propaganda. Don't be like that. I always follow that. We learn everything.

Because no one is clean. That's the important thing.

Because they only see one figure. This is cool, this is cool.

Especially the base is on cool. Yes, the base is on cool. The base is on cool. Yeah, based on keren. Based on keren, butin keren nih. Kaya ngeliat putin ada anak muda gay, terus... Lu ga boleh dimarahin, oh keren nih putin nih, anti-LGBT, jadi suka.

Cara jalannya.

Cara jalannya.

Keluar lagi jalan, tangan di kantong. Oh, itu kan. Yang dijual itu kan? Itu, yang dijual itu.

Sosok, sosok. It works. Because, for example, this is funny. For example, I'm talking about America's bad. I'll be told, you're a Chinese jerk. You're paid by the Chinese government. I'll be talking about China's bad. You're a Chinese jerk. I'm not getting any of that.

That's not our problem from the start, sir. Yes, it is. In everything. But every time I see that comment, I'm like, this is really hard. It's still a long journey to make everything lag.

I once said that, when I went to you, to Felix, or wherever, this person is really weird. No one is like that, right? Later, I'll say this, wow, this is too much. I mean, I've discussed that in that place too, right?

I mean, we can't be friends, right? We think together, what's the best thing?

Yes, yes.

Yes, propaganda is crazy.

Especially nowadays, it's really easy to get in. Yesterday, little kids were arrested.

Where?

For being exposed to neo-Nazi.

In Indonesia?

Oh, I forgot the region. There's a kid who got caught by the Indonesian police. I forgot how old he was. He was in the middle of his teens.

An Indonesian kid?

Yes, an Indonesian kid.

He got caught by the Indonesian police?

Yes, he got caught. There's a news article about it.

Where?

In Bali.

In Bali?

In Bali? How? In Bali, you can't even do Zen. That's how people live. People go to Bali.

Yes, to find peace.

Yes.

If you want to find Nazi, you go to Garut. That's why. Just go to Bali. Eh, Boni goes to Bali to find... Eh?

Eh?

Boni.

Boni.

What?

Boni has been reported.

But it's hard.

He's back.

It's just a formality.

It's just a report. How did the story of the neo-Nazi's exposure go?

How did the neo-Nazi's exposure go? I don't know the details. Let's say, my son is in elementary school. Suddenly he said, Hitler is cool.

What? What? SD Tiba-tiba, the ability Hitler can

Go for the gun and I see the way to go get away the changing year

Do go cussy that if photo see Paco misty miss you up a debris drobal Führer we I'm like, what the hell, it's been so long! I immediately checked, this is his reading, what is he watching? He's just making up stuff, I'm just fixing it

But bro, if there are kids who can be exposed by Nio Nasi That means there's a context, there are people who spread that It's impossible, without us realizing it It's impossible for kids to suddenly meet and then suddenly... There must be someone pushing it,. We know that's how propaganda works.

Oh, so maybe someone is moving us without us realizing it.

Yes, it could be. But if we talk about social media, it's all propaganda.

True.

I mean, China has TikTok. I think someone said that the broadcast in this country is different from other countries. In China, TikTok is very different, Boss.

What's the name in China? Dongyin? Yes, yes. Yes, there is more educational.

Science. Yes, this is a lesson. In Indonesia, how? In America. If I'm not mistaken, in America, they say there is LGBT or something.

Yes, it's like outside China, they just give the trash. Yes, that's what they say. I've discussed that. You've discussed that? Yes. And I have a friend who studied in China. He admitted that. He admitted that?

Yes. I forgot the name of the application. It's not TikTok in China. But it's the same as TikTok. But it's TikTok. Yes, there's a way to make it.

But if I were in China, I would say, you have me too.

Yes.

So, that's the importance of... But the problem is like this. For example, we say, Oh, there's a propaganda like this, like this, like this. Then we turn off TikTok. It's a demo, Pak.

That's right. Demo.

Because in my opinion, they're entering like this. Countries, not only Indonesia, all countries. Because this is TikTok, all countries. Entering slowly, good. Suddenly, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Sales. It's already big. Yes, it's big.

And the context is finally to be a source of income for the people there. And then you cut it. We once turned off the reboot for a day. That's the Chinese.

And that's just the TikTok shop in Indonesia. The effect was already like that. The effect was like that. How can it be bigger than the one in Bermaren? Because in the end, there are many people who donate their income to Syria.

There, that's the problem.

But do you know India is blocking TikTok?

I know.

That was also the problem at first, but in the end, they let it go. The solution from India is that they make their own TikTok. Yeah, that's right. Do you think India can make TikTok? What? I don't know how it is now. But if it's not there, it's still blocked. That's their limitation. They fight in the limitation of India and China.

They block TikTok. There are many TikTokers who are big. I don't have income. I'm like this. I'm like this. I'm a drop.

India is almost the same when we talk about income and stuff. They need income from outside too. I don't know, in Indonesia, sometimes we talk about unemployment, there are so many unemployment.

There is a context that we forget that there are many unemployed people

who are now living from... social media, TikTok, sales. Yes. Because they are unemployed, they have more time. They use social media to get income.

So, they have income. So, in the end, they are not unemployed. Because they are earning.

They just don't have formal work. Because it's not recorded, sir. Right. Because it's not recorded, sir. Really? It's not recorded. The tax is not included. Maybe they're looking for a death penalty.

Yes.

The tax is not included. It's recorded as an employee, but it's not.

Yes.

So the number of unemployed is a lot. And some of them are not recorded, those who live from social media.

Oh, yes. The logic. The logic.

The logic. Why is it that the case of Neonazi is exposed from the internet and the true crime community and... A gory game. A gory game. What game is there? There are a lot. 68 children in 18 provinces in Indonesia

learn to use firearms. Oh, the one that happened yesterday. Yes, one of them was the one who bombed. Yes, the one that happened yesterday?

Yes, one of them was the one that bombed.

The one that bombed the school mosque?

Yes, the one in Jakarta. That was Nelonazi. Yes, he was in the military training. He was in the Agartha force. Agartha was the Nazi's agenda back then. Yes, that was one of them.

He was the most bombed.

I skipped him The target is school and a friend from Java

A friend from Java is...

A relative

What's the context of a friend from Java?

Someone who doesn't agree with them, with that ideology maybe

That's crazy

Crazy? You're bombing your schoolmate, aren't you crazy?

The funny thing is, it should be white supremacy

That's white supremacy We're black, we're black I'm The skin is cooked. Yeah. That's basically racist. Why are they supported?

That's crazy.

How is that, Om? I'm dizzy.

But you have a lot of boys. Usually boys like that, right? The public knowledge, Nazi. My son was like that too.

Yesterday, two days ago. I said, you know about Venezuela? Yeah. So, you're in the Department of Defense, right?

Yeah.

So, what do you think, Indonesia?

I said it again, what do you think, Chan?

But that's it. It means that this is scary for other countries if this is allowed. Right.

And it becomes a kind of a lease. As I said before, if China wants to take Taiwan, it's okay. Why not?

The problem now is, who will take action to America?

Who?

Who? In the PBB, they have veto rights. So far, I've watched them only arguing arguments. And then, the members of the ICC were not. Then, they left other groups. Now, they decided to leave the groups that they thought could hold their movement.

If it's like this, what's the scary part? The only way to stop America is through the military.

World War.

Well, it will be there. That's the point. For example, he acted like a kid. Because he said after Venezuela, he said, my next target is Mexico. Because Mexico is not run by the government, it is run by the cartel. He said that.

Then he reminded Colombia, Cuba, Iran. Ali Khamenei said he wanted to escape to Russia. If he really did all of this, Greenland, Mexico, Cuba, the blockade here would not be safe. Basically, you also took the border to the important areas to put weapons and so on. The closer the shop is, the closer it is.

This is definitely a movement here.

Our logic, if we want to continue, Ukraine wants to join NATO, just be attacked. Especially if this is America's true, getting closer and closer. That's scary. That's why I asked, why are you from your department already have a speech,

afraid of World War III? Because I'm scared, you know, I was so scared to see it. It's only been a week, and it's already 2026. Yeah, it's only started. It's only started.

I think 2025 is enough for the problem.

Yeah, that's why.

Yeah, it's only 2026 and it's already been cut. Yeah, I was scared. Yeah, it's true. If it's running like that, it's definitely... Which country is the safest?

The safest? Switzerland? I'm It's the same. It's a mess. It's only starting in 2026. But it's safe, because we lost.

If it's done like that, the people will be angry because they don't understand anything.

That's right. Of course there are people who are against it. But there are also people who understand, like, the important thing is that we are safe. There are also people like that. In the end, I always say that if it's like this,

we as civilians should all be victims. Yes. become a victim. It's not possible. It's wrong.

That's why I often ask, give me an example of a country that was entered by the United States, did it succeed? There's none. All of them are regretful.

Yes, yesterday I read an article on AJ+. They said, America has made the president or the leader of the country from almost all continents. Let's see if there's anyone in Europe who's been made.

Wow, wow, wow.

It's a whole world.

There's Indonesia on the list. There's Indonesia one in Indonesia? 1965. Oh, yeah. Even though it's not military, it's more like Intel. But it's been admitted that they're involved in that.

That's why it's called Operation Jakarta. It's been applied everywhere. In Chile, we use Operation Jakarta.

From there.

America. And then, reading Ted Trump, I don't know. with the president of Korsel, asking him to cross. He was aiming for peace there. But he withdrew, and it became a mess again. The building of peace was robbed by Korut. He was angry. Now, Israel, Palestine, they are all there, they are all in peace.

Although we know where they are going. Yesterday, Cambodia, Thailand, they are also in peace, right? Even though it was a mess again. He was aiming, peace. But on the other hand, if you have an intention, you're not peaceful.

Maybe it's based on peace, sir.

That's it.

He's saying that this is for world peace. Because Venezuela is dangerous.

Cartel.

Besides the cartel, he also works with this, the Colombian rebels. That's it. But the reason is that. Columbia. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yes, yes, yes. They're super power, sir. What are they doing? We know what they're doing. It's sad. I mean, no one dares to do it. But if someone dares to attack, it's a world war.

Like before, we were scared. It's a bit wrong, sir.

If... Vietnam, but they didn't succeed, right?

Vietnam, they didn't succeed. The one who succeeded was in the Rembo movie. To entertain themselves. Vietnam didn't succeed. Vietnam was scary. Vietnam was crazy.

There was Vietnam Rose.

I like the Vietnam Tunnel Key. They put it inside. There were many paths. They knew which one went to the kitchen. The rest were put by snakes, cockroaches. The traps were very traditional. But very traditional but it's effective.

But maybe in the old days, there was no technology like this.

For example, heat and stuff.

If it's now, it's definitely not.

It's not a problem.

There's a trap here, there's a detector.

There's nothing like that in the old days.

So, you don't know the area. Now, you don't know the area, you send the drone first. Yes. Bro, if for example, what happens, because before, there was a world war. It was a war. So, there was a world war.

And our country was also in peace. If you choose to flee to another country, which country would you flee to?

Is this a random choice or based on my ability? For example, if it's a random choice, I would choose Switzerland. Switzerland. Switzerland. It's proven that since the World War II, it's always been safe. Where would you choose, Om? For example, in the same situation. Don't choose Switzerland, even though you're capable, but it's a bit tricky.

Don't be a swiss, even though you can, but you're a swiss. Don't.

This question was asked to my son. If I answer it to you, you'll definitely feel that I'm a Soye.

What?

My son asked me. This is my answer. And I'm not a Soye. I'll let you know. I once told Aska that if anything happens, I'll stay here. But you chose to leave.

I didn't leave.

So you still fought?

I told my son at that time. I said, but maybe I'll be free. I'll tell him, Aska, you should run away.

Your son has to save himself. Yes know what I mean? Your son should save himself. Yes.

While you... Because this is how I am.

This is how old I am, bro.

Okay.

I was a kid. I was 5 years old.

Yes.

And another year. I was 60 years old.

I thought,

that's it. I was in Indonesia since I was a kid. I've been in Indonesia since I was a kid. If something happens, I'll run away. I was in Indonesia in 1998. I was in Indonesia when things were messy. I was in Indonesia when I was happy. I think if there's something that I ran away from at that age,

I wouldn't. Because my age is like this. I was born and raised in Indonesia. I don't in Indonesia. I think we don't leave it to save ourselves. But if I can be honest, I think it's good for you to leave.

Because you're still young. And maybe it's good for you to leave. Because you're Indonesian, you can create something new.

At least you can bring the country's memory, like the history, the culture. You can put it outside. You can develop it outside before it's conducive, you can bring it back.

Because I'm not talking about patriotism. Okay, on one side is patriotism. On the other side, what's your age? I'm 37. 37? Yeah, I'm old, Boss.

You're old.

That's why I'm white. Yeah.

I've been watching you since elementary school.

That's why. If I were your age, I'd run away. I'd be a bit of a toll.

That's what I think it's me. But I'm listening to your answer. I feel that my assessment of you all this time is correct. I always see you, especially after we did the podcast yesterday. We've known each other for quite a while. Yes, after the podcast yesterday, we talked a little deeper. Then after I got home, I think I talked to Mr. Felix. I said, it seems like Omda is an ultra-nationalist.

Because it seems like you you were blundering, like when MBG was wrong, but in your mind, you just want the best for this country.

For me, I want the best for this country. This country is not perfect. I know that. I mean, I'm also difficult to get through here and there, to talk, for what, for what. But, crazy, I've been in Indonesia since I was a kid. Then, like thing, bro. Okay, why can I do this?

I can give you a feeling.

What?

I was given an amazing success when I was in Indonesia.

Entered? Yes, that's right. So, at that time, you said, right?

When you were a kid, you watched me on TV, right?

Impresario.

Impresario, 008, right? Yes, yes. I watched it on TV when I was a kid. Impresario. Impresario 008, right? In the 90s. After that, I was there, and I was successful. I was like this, and I went abroad to study, etc. I got all of that from Indonesia. I felt that.

So, I thought, this country can be good. It can be...

Yes. The potential is very visible. The potential is very visible.

The potential is really there. Yes, there are many who are messed up. But which country is... Perfect. Perfectly heaven, which country is that? You're talking about America.

You go to America.

Me too.

And you see how homeless people are now.

My cousin is studying there. He just got home. He said this. And you see how homeless people are now. My cousin is studying there, and he just got home. He said, do you know why people, he's in New York, right? Do you know why people in New York take photos of buildings and the sky?

The buildings and the sky. Because if the camera is down, it's all trash.

It's all trash, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So, I think I'm done. So, you really love him? So, my assessment is correct? Maybe I love him too much? Om Dad, you're an ultranationalist.

No, no, don't say that. You're a trap. You're a trap. My statement will be wrong if I say this.

But, your argument is correct.

But, you don't know. I've got everything in my life from this country, so be it. But if for example, my age... I'm wrong to say this, I know I'm wrong to say this. For example, Yaska is 19 years old, and so on. And he didn't get into the jury, didn't get into anything, and so on. If he wants to go out and live his life, that's his right. That's his right.

People have the right to choose. We can't judge. If he's not a member of the military and I choose to run away,

that's his right.

I think the Indonesian government won't stay put. It's impossible to do that.

But I ran away. Unless my uncle called me. You come with me? Okay. I chased him away. We went into a bunker. We went into a bunker. I forgot the key.

I forgot about the bunker. Actually, the Delta Force team already brought the machine tools, everything. They were ready. If the bunker is locked...

You're a comedy, man.

If the bunker is locked, we have a tool to cut the lock.

You're being pushed to open it.

Pushed to open it.

You're being pushed to open it.

It turns out that DOE can't imagine what was in Maduro's mind at that time. He was sleeping. Sleeping at 2 AM.

And with all the tension that happened, he could still sleep all this time, right?

In the end, maybe he was already sleeping at 2 AM. We don't know.

He was tired.

Because he had his eyes. Maybe his eyes are telling him that this is the time for Rinki and Duro. He's tired. He's sleeping. But I want to ask you.

If you see this, where will it go? After what Trump did.

Well, this is a very hard question. If you ask me where I'm going.

You have a lot of input. You must have a broader perspective.

Yeah, back again, if we talk from our side, we're non-block. If we talk from our side, we're non-block. You're looking at the world. If we talk from our side, we can be non-block. If we talk about seeing the world, it could be a Cold War first. Cold War first.

This is like Russia and America. Soviet. This is a cold war that is extraordinary. China will have another economic war. Another event. China will have another economic war. And at a certain point, if it can't be settled there, it will be a world war.

Oh, Trump is still in power. He just took office last year, right?

Last year, right?

Oh, he's still in power.

But Trump is also a smart person, sir. And he can change things, sir. It's still a long way to go. But Trump is also a smart and changeable person.

Yes, he is.

If we look at Trump, there's something good about him. So, he can do it. And then, it's up to him.

It depends on who can convince him.

He can say, yes, okay, let's go back to the past.

The problem is, it's like he's not around anymore.

He's feeling like he's the one who owns the world now. Yes, indeed. He just got the door price, the context is like that. But he's also that kind of person. If we look at it, suddenly right, suddenly left. So as a leader, maybe if he sees that the risk is too big, who knows? Even though the Department of Defense became the Department of War.

War. That was replaced. Actually, that was the first sign from him.

Yes.

You see, there was no one in front of him when he was changing. Then he said, we have changed to the Department of War. We're going to show it. Why? If I'm not mistaken, there's that video.

That's the one who said that person? The inside person. Yes, the one who talked about the person? The person inside. Yes, the person who installed it after it was replaced. Well, it's done. It's proven. It's being shown now.

Okay, so making the Partner of War is terrible. At that time, I think I was able to discuss it there.

That's the Partner of War, Boss.

But we don't need to defend anymore. It's a permanent war, Boss. Yeah. We don't need to defend anymore. We just attack, attack, attack. In Indonesia, it's still a matter of defense. Still a matter of defense. I don't know if there's a defense department in this world. There's no defense department, but there's a war.

As far as I know, it's only in America. And maybe the words are not war. Yeah, maybe. And also, maybe the words are not war. War is too offensive.

War is already, wow. Yes. Department of, what is it? What do you think?

Find something smoother.

Find something smoother.

Actually, defense is already the smoothest. Yes, battle.

Underneath is war, battle.

Department of battle.

Yes, defense is the most delicate. Yeah.

Let's just pray.

Amen.

But the context is like this. In my opinion, the most interesting thing is that from what he said earlier, from what I'm interested in, is that dangerous propaganda is for the younger dangerous propaganda for the children in Indonesia. For example, neonation is a trend in Indonesia.

It's crazy. So, people don't understand. We have a black skin.

The one who bombed, never got tired?

That's why.

What are you doing? Who's the one who never gets tired of bombing? That's why. What's the point of doing it? So, yes. It needs more people like you who give explanations.

I have a lot of competitors, Nadjo. It's okay. But I'm happy that I have more friends to discuss. Or at least, I have friends who also discuss history. Sometimes we discuss the same thing but the point of view is different. That's interesting. Or there's information that I skipped, and he has it.

That's good too. In the end, the audience, our community has more variations, right? More input to their brains. The results are positive. So, come on, those who want to make it like school. Hit it.

Hit it.

Go to school.

Great. I'm going to go home and go to school. Go home and go to school. Thank you, Koi. You're welcome, sir. I'm going to leave now.

I've been talking and you're looking at this.

I put it here on purpose.

I put it here on purpose so the guest can see it. I can't eat it. I'm going to leave now. Thank you. I'm so happy to talk to you So this is to open up what happened But, he's going home to school

I think there will be a video soon Venezuela, yes Tomorrow Tomorrow I'll upload

Maybe we'll upload together

I don't know

I was told that I'll upload on Friday

Okay, same

My schedule is Friday My schedule is Friday, Saturday, Sunday Okay, let's do it together Okay, bro. My schedule is Friday. My schedule is Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Okay, let's do it together. Yeah, let's do it together.

Okay. Bro, thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Let's close this.