SELAMAT GINTING: PERIKSA KABAINTELKAM, KABAHARKAM, DAN KAPOLRI

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Who is actually behind the conflict yesterday? Did the mutation that happened yesterday in the body of Polri also bring the conflict? Oh, very much. In my opinion. For example, the head of the National Body of Terrorism has retired and was appointed again. It has never happened. Then the head of the National Police, the drug lord. It's the same, right? On the way to go abroad, he was replaced.

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There are situations that are not normal. Until the conflict between the police of the Prabowo and Karyoto Kapolda Metro Jaya which was promoted, turned out not to be a rice cream news, but a news about Harkam. Not just a remote battalion commander who is responsible for the Kajugea Cosmas complex, which was shut, I think.

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It should be checked. Who should be checked? Kaba Intel Cam, Kaba Harcam, Polri. They failed to detect that. They detected that the demo 25 will be hacked on 28, 29, 30.

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Who is in charge of Intel Cam, Harcam, and all that? It's the police. So, the conflict in the body of the elite of this police force is what is holding the public up? It must be formed into a team of facts-seekers,

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an independent coalition, to reveal this case. The enemy in the midst of it, includes the political party. Where is the 58% support in the last PIL press? Where is Golkar?

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Where are the Democrats? Where are the other parties that support Prabowo? Demo, please. Give support. There is none. 80% support in the parliament is also a real support.

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Don't blame the people. Soon the great achievements will be crushed. To then catch Silvester Matutina, it can't be done. He said he had been backed up by the TNI. Meanwhile, the gray issues like Tom Lembong, was immediately arrested. All kinds of things. Who is this?

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Prabowo must be reminded that there are many snakes with two heads in the circle of power. If then these podcasts are not listened to, it's okay. The important thing is that we have conveyed to the government that there will be potentials like this, potentials to delegitimize the government of Prabowo Subianto. Hi, my friend, the intellectual actor or the one behind the riots that happened a few days ago is being hunted down, is being searched for, is being investigated by the government. Who are they? Where are they going?

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And will it disturb the government of Prabowo Subianto? And even Prabowo himself in the future. We have another political analyst in the security defense field from the National Bank.

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Good evening.

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Good evening, Mr. Ind evening. Good evening, Pak Gendrak. Good evening, Pak. This is from Bung Hatta. Who is actually behind the conflict yesterday? Is it purely a time movement or the competing elites? I think it's or an elite that is competing? I think there is an elite battle.

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An elite battle, both local and global. Because it must be done in a secret way. In a closed way. It's like an intelligent operation. Because it's a bit difficult to reveal who the perpetrator is in this event. It means we also have to be able to differentiate the point of reference or the time of action with the time of the riot.

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This must be differentiated. Of course, what Bung Indra meant was that we will discuss the times of the revolution. If we look at the times of the revolution, the state is in crisis. The economic crisis, the monetary crisis, and many people lost their jobs. If we look at the number of people who were arrested, the average age is around 19 to 25 years. Those are the job seekers. The average result is that the KTP and others are mostly from the areas of the capital's businessmen.

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It means West Java, it means Banten. Even if Central Java has a border with West Java. That's the data that the police show. Well, it could be that these people are people who have a legal record, a criminal record. Where? Of? It must be in the police station. Why did they go around again? In this case, it should be assumed that was already managed, already arranged, and orchestrated after the August 25th demonstration.

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We discussed it at that time. Then, someone took advantage of it. I think it can't be let go. cannot be released in this condition. First, for example, there is a government elite who is threatened by the reshuffle, including the state officials. Well, they must be uncomfortable with the situation one year after the government of Prabowo Subianto. Then there is civil society, of course. Then there is the global elite. The global elite, we are now in an international battle

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where there are three powerful countries, the United States, China, and Russia are competing for influence. They certainly want to enter Indonesia, influence it politically, influence it economically. Then of course, people who are part of the old oligarchy, who have been comfortable for 10 years with the government of President Jokowi, and now they are threatened. That's what happened.

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Then it became one with people who are frustrated with the economic situation. So, everything is integrated into a common interest, an ad hoc interest for the time being. Because there is a grudge against the parliament, against the government. I think President Prabowo should immediately evaluate since 25 August, there has been no real movement from his political parties

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to raise this issue, to explain to the public the dissatisfaction. Because in my opinion, in this case, there are many enemies in the cover, in the government of President Prabowo, whose interests are all different. And it will be difficult for him to see, because the enemy is in the cover.

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Who is the local elite? The local elite, as I said earlier, are people who are part of the old government. People whose positions will be threatened, legally, and politically. The demand for the reshuffle of the cabinet is so strong. The demand to replace the 4.5-year-old Capolri is also strong.

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So, in my opinion, there must be a fight in these institutions, including the police. Just recently, there was a change in the position of the three stars. The position of the three stars means that it becomes one more level of the police. There was a fight there, in my opinion. So, if Listio falls or is replaced, many parties also feel burdened, they feel that their privileges that have been protected by Listio Sigit Prabowo are also threatened,

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including the old elite. One of them has become a public secret. One of them was asked not to be replaced by the former president Jokowi, including Kapolri, so that it is not replaced. This means that there is a battle there, including who will replace Listio Sigit Prabowo, also all parties are interested, oligarchs are interested, the government is interested. So if we look at some cases preceding the replacement of Kapolri, it has the potential to create chaos in national politics. And the impact is of course political instability.

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All this time, the elite is divided into two groups. In one movement of the time, there are many of them. There are soldiers on one side, and side, the government on the other. The army has always been identical to the government. The police is identical to Jokowi. Is that true? I think, for the past 10 years,

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for the past 10 years of Jokowi's government, the police is considered as a gold digger. And this is also what the public criticizes, that this momentum is a momentum for President Prabowo to make major reforms to the police's position. If we look at the tasks,

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the task is indeed the security of the safety and orderliness of the people in enforcing the law by serving, accommodating, and protecting. But in the structure of the task, those three do not appear dominant as servants, as accommodators, as a protector. What's more, it's more on the perpetrators.

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The organizational structure in the police is like that. It should be reversed. It's more about the law. The police can't use the term of police officer. It's not allowed. The term of police officer is for the military. It's a police member. It's not allowed.

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The term of police officer is only for the army, the navy, and the air force. Right? The police is not included in that term. So, don't be like the police. It's like the police. It's actually a civil police or a military police or a combatant.

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Why do they show more of their weaponry? Not for example, the crosswalk not the cross-country or the bobbin-cum-tip-mask. That should be the one that is more highlighted. So, if the police is really like a combatant, then just put it back in the Ministry of Defense and Security. But if you look at the function more to the law,

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then put it under the Ministry of Law and Justice. The viral video on the ground is the arrest of two members of the TNI at the Brimov headquarters. What do you think about that? I think it's too much. When a major from the strategic intelligence body of TNI was caught, his card was taken by the camera, was shot, and was distributed.

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This is an intelligence task, it must be united where there is a consensus. It's like that. Automatically using the clothes, not the uniform. Well, this should be coordinated with the state apparatus, not immediately accusing the provocateur.

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It's the same in Palembang. Two convoys were eating. It was a holiday. Then they were caught by a provocateur. And again, the membership card of the 5th Cavalry Battalion in Palembang was seized. This is not good. This means that the police and also to lure the anger of the TNI in these two cases. It should be coordinated with the state apparatus.

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In this way, the way they feel themselves in charge of the law, feel themselves in charge of the world, feel in charge of the world, to dominate the media, this can cause a conflict between the institutions of the country. It shouldn't happen like this. What is the purpose of that, Bang? It means that TNI provoked this conflict.

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That's why, as I said said we can't just guess. We should be able to guess which group is which. The established group will be lost. They will lose their position, etc. That's why, as I said, the potential of the elite conflict in the police force should also be investigated together. That's why in this case,

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there should be someone responsible. Not just a remote battalion commander who is responsible for the KJG compound that was destroyed, in my opinion. This will automatically show that the high-ranking officers are safe. Meanwhile, the lower battalion below is ready to take the risk. It's not good. The case of Kanjuruhan, who is responsible?

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The case of Bawaslu, all of them are on the list. In my opinion, there is a confusion in the police. It's the same with the police tactical vehicle that hit Afan Kurniawan, who made him pass away. This is also a non-professional way of handling this matter. So, I think it should be checked. Who should be checked? Kaba Intel Cam, Kaba Harcam, Polri. They failed to detect it.

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They detected that the demo 25 will be broken in 28, 29, 30. It should be anticipated. Where is the work? The same with the broken folders, they also have to be checked. Who is the leader of the folders?

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Who is the leader of the intel cams, the harcam, and all kinds of things? It's the police. One of the public demands is that the list of the provost must be removed. It must be responsible. So, in my opinionow investigation must be removed. It must be held accountable.

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So, I think the government must not be silent. It must be formed a team of facts seekers, an independent association to reveal this case. If we look at the areas that are targeted by this mass destruction, there are areas that are safe, there are areas that are not safe, it means there is a conflict in the police force.

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Yes, it should be suspected like that. Why are not all 38 provinces broken? Did they manage to control the ones that are not broken? There is no power relationship with the center and all kinds of things. Why only at certain points? Who is this? It should also be anticipated.

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There must be someone who is responsible. In an event like Malari 1974, Malapetaka, January 15, 1974, some generals were arrested by President Soeharto. Even before they were stopped, they backed down. This didn't happen.

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They still felt that they could still hold the control and still hold those positions. Well, it's the same for us. Members of the DPR, mispronunciation and all kinds of things, still feel like they can. Well, this is because there are no sanctions or penalties, both in the parliament and in the executive. Sanctions to be removed.

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In Japan, for example, they have committed suicide. The left, even the right, is like that. The left and right side are like that. It's embarrassing. But this is not the case. And since the beginning, if Lestio Sigid didn't back down, then it's okay.

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This is a momentum for President Prabowo that was asked by the public. There is no 4.5 years of capori, the longest since the era of reformation. If it's more sharp, is the mutation that happened yesterday in the body of the capori also leading to conflict? Oh, very much. In my opinion. For example, the head of the National Body of Terrorism has retired and was appointed again. It has never happened before.

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Those who have retired have been appointed as the head of the BNPT. That's the third possibility. Then the head of the National BNN, the Narcotics. It's the same, right? On the way to go abroad, the country was replaced. There are abnormal situations. There was a conflict between the Kapolri-Listiyo-Sigit-Prabowo and the Karioto-Kapolda-Metro Jaya which was promoted not as a rice cream cream, but a news about Harkam.

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It's been around everywhere. Now it's around. The wealth of the police generals are on social media. Here, they have a house worth 25 billion. They have wealth here, here, and here. It's around.

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What does it mean? Who is the one who mentions this? It's from the police environment itself. There is an elite conflict of the police that should be respected by President Prabowo Subianto. President Prabowo should be able to control the police if it's not dangerous. Including the impact on the Polda Polda.

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Of course. The impact on the Polda Polda. This should be tested. Loyalty to Polda Polda against the institution of Mabes Polri. Maybe it's not loyal. It's the same with cases like this. The anger of the NTT community, who feel that the KJG's Kosmas group is being treated unfairly in this case. In the trial, they also said that

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they were following the command of the leaders. Who was the leader? The commander of the battalion above him was the commander of the regiment. Who was the commander of the regiment above him? It means that the commander of the other brimov should be checked. He was a semi-military, paramilitary. So, if you follow the military structure,

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the commander should be called, there should be two steps above to be checked. Is this checked? No. It should be opened. Why is this situation? It should be evaluated.

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For so long, in some cases, there was no action. In the end, we felt that there was no problem. Finally, now, this is it. This is the case of the Avan Kurniawan case, which made the three continents to be in chaos. The people in the three continents, Asia, America, and Europe, demanded the police.

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10 people were killed in the 25-30 August incident. 10 lives. And this will make the president of the government difficult. The international public, rather than being taken over by the international community, I think the independent team of the fact-finding coalition in this case should be formed immediately. So the conflict in the body of this elite population is what is driving audience back. Because there are many people who, if we know,

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without any explanation, are moving.

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Well, this is about law. Law must have evidence, right? So the law should be guessed. If it's an intelligent language, where is the one who admits that it's an intelligent operation? The cells are disconnected.

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For example, this is the one who recruited this one. The one who was recruited didn't know who the superior was. It's always disconnected. The cells are disconnected. For example, who picked up, who brought Molotov cocktails, and so on. What is the purpose of this? That's why the case of destroying the police station is a state-level matter.

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It can't be played. That's why President Prabowo was angry and accused Makar and all kinds of people. Yes, in my opinion, President Prabowo is facing his enemies. And the enemies are doing it in a hybrid way. Hybrid from the so-called Hancom epilepsy. Ideology, politics, social, culture, economy, defense, security. Including through communication, through AI and all kinds of information,

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through information, information hoax. President Prabowo is being attacked, including from within his cabinet. Because of that, in my opinion, this is a momentum for President Prabowo to evaluate all the cabinet members, their loyalty to who readiness, etc. There is no more dual loyalty.

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It's enough to compromise. Everything must be checked. When Prabowo said that this is Aksimakar, did he refer to a certain elite or to the audience? First, if we discuss it from a political analysis point of view, those words are to get support.

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Where does the support come from? From the bureaucracy. Prabowo needs support from the civil bureaucracy, the armed civil bureaucracy in this matter, and the military bureaucracy. Why? Because these three always put instability ahead. If it's about food, instability, it's going forward. It's going forward.

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That this is not a joke. Even terrorism and all kinds of foreign intervention is to create mutual enemies. Prabowo needs that support. Because I think it's time, like yesterday, August 10, Prabowo held a major ceremony for the establishment of the allied units. It means that the three major units,

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plus the Ostrad, plus the commandos of the Katak, Kopassus, Marini, Korpasgat, have been controlled by him, he should be brave. Be brave to take action.

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Strict action. But then, don't let that strict action But don't let the action of Tegas cut off the dialogue with us, the academicians, observers, who see that this is not like smoking,

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the fire is not extinguished, only the smoke was extinguished. Now, this also has to be seen. What is the fire? The fire is caused by the government's confusing policies. It should have stopped. So, Prabowo is now surrounded by the so-called ABS, the origin of Mr. Senang. He doesn't know that this could actually be an enemy

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within his own circle. If we look at the police force, there are vaccines, there is a conflict, etc. Is that the same thing happening in the TNI? I think TNI's body has been fully controlled by Prabowo. The form is when the event was on the line, he could control it. And he was in form.

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Because his way of thinking is to use TNI to be behind the line in his struggle to run government programs. For me, the most uncomfortable thing is the Solo Gang. Because I think President Prabowo has to run an unusual way. So, it's like,

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maybe Prabowo is doing only two patterns. It means irregular with Jokowi or irregular without Jokowi. Why? Because it's like this. Irregular is an unusual way, an unregulated way, an abnormal way, an unstandard way.

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Maybe this is being done by Prabowo Subianto in the way of opposing parties, including those inside. But if the irregular is still with Jokowi, then Jokowi's role is still very big there. If it's irregular with Jokowi's shadow, it's not impossible, this is a sign that Prabowo may not be able to finish his government for 5 years.

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Therefore, unusual unusual ways to handle this political situation, this optimality, of course, if possible, let go of Jokowi's shadow so that Prabowo can fully control the government. Prabowo, in my opinion, is also uncomfortable. For example, he has returned to Indonesia after the visit to China. It means that... Usually he goes to another country first. Oh yes, this reminds us of President Suharto from Egypt,

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who has to return, and when he returns, the situation cannot be controlled until it reaches the headquarters of Kusuma. In my opinion, this situation must be controlled because the alleged elite conflict in the police force must be completely eliminated. Is it when the Prime Minister feels he can control the army, that causes the status of civilian rank not related to the civilian and military rank?

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Yes, I think it's not easy. There will be four stages. First, the civilian rank. Second, the civilian rank. The civilian rank is dominated by the civil war. The civil war is ruled by the civilians. It means that the capori is under the president. Then the governor's function is the capolda.

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If it's a military war, then it's. Only after that, the war was declared. This is the law number 23 in 1959. It's not easy. That's why it's weird for me if someone says, Oh, this is in the situation of declaring a military war. It's impossible to declare a military emergency. It's impossible to have a military emergency if there is no civilian emergency.

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Maybe someone wants to send a civilian emergency so that the police can be in power. The situation of the police the police cannot be denied. It has to be solved. So it's normal if the military and the civilian are involved. There are situations that are discussed from the intelligence, security, and so on.

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Then it is consulted first with the DPR. Did the DPR agree? If the DPR agreed, then it was announced the situation of civilian emergency. Then the situation was even worse, there were riots in the area. But no, then the military emergency was proposed. This is impossible, the military emergency is still far away. So, in my opinion, the jumping conclusion is that people who are making a fuss about the military emergency.

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I think it's far from that. What is the condition, Bang? Is the statement of the president saying there is a conspiracy and even there is a word terrorist, it can't be used as a stepping stone to become a civilian or military emergency.

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The condition.

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The condition is like the situation. Can this be controlled? Not yet. The situation can be controlled. But there was a time when there was a void,

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a kind of legal void.

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Yes, but it can still be controlled. We were still waiting for the Friday's demo, right? On September 5th, which is said to be a big demo. If the demo is actually ordinary, the police have to control, serve, and supervise. Please show your feelings. Because it's protected by the law.

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What they have to focus on is the situation of the opponent, which must also be anticipated. We have been demonstrated,, we remember it. Usually, we prepare our underwear, toothbrush, toothbrush, soap, and we will be held for 3 days. The underwear is ready. There is no stone, knife, or anything in our bag. Because we want to convey our intellectual opinion

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that this government policy can regulate the government's delegitimization. So in my opinion, one of the policies that should also be taken by President Prabowo, including political parties, is a firm attitude towards the non-active members of the DPR. There is no term in the MD3 law, non-active, none. The only one is the PAW. If not, political parties will also be punished by the public,

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including the DPR. If the loans are not stopped, if the salary needs to be cut, the 12 million rice loan will be gone. Our salary as employees and all kinds of things, the rice money is there, right? Where is the rice for a month up to 12 million. No. The top family is 500,000 or up to 1 million

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rice consumption in a family. It's impossible for it to be 12 million. Not to mention, the government must also take away that they will pay the taxes of the DPR members. Our taxes are paid by ourselves they will be paid by us. It's the same with the commissioners.

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So, the paradox of Prabowo must be eliminated. For example, the ministerial representative is then considered a commissioner. Cancel it. Because the Ministry of Internal Affairs forbade it. Don't do it. This will happen two years later. Prabowo is now torturing himself. Cancel it.

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The hedonistic lifestyle, the glasses of millions, hundreds of millions, the watch, billions, and all kinds of things. That's it. Don't use vehicles that we don't need to mention the brand. Expensive, expensive clothes, lifestyle, etc. The people are in trouble.

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So who is responsible? The finance minister should be removed. He's targeting the people with taxes. The ones who should be taxed are the superiors. I remember when I was covering it with the finance minister, Marim Muhammad. We prayed together and saw his shoes. Oh, it turns out that his shoes are Chib Mr. Clean's car is also a popular car.

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That should be an example for Sri Mulyani, for other ministers. He came to President Suharto, any president, ministers, sir, ma'am, you have to pay taxes. This is clear. Not the neolib models that become our officials. I think there should be a lot of reshuffling if you want the fire to be extinguished,

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not the smoke to be removed. So Prabowo must understand that. The paradox happens in the government and also in the parliament, including in the enforcement of law. So, in other words, you want to say that the civil war, the military war, there must be a real enemy. Now the real enemy is the economic crisis, the political crisis. This is what I want to say.

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That's what's real in public and that's what the government should be fighting for. True. So it's not about sending a determination to the people to pay this and that. No. Send a feeling of love. Send a feeling of attention. Send not the war veterans, but the veterans, the servicemen, the defenders, the supporters of the people. Not with sanctions. The people are frustrated right now. But it has been reminded. Use sociological methods to save this nation

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because the people have felt that injustice is the trigger of the riots. So if the Avan case is passed, it will be a trigger. And Indonesia has been stated by the World Bank and all kinds of things, the poorest country with the largest population. This is the impact of the projects that were done by the former president Jokowi. Jokowi also has to be responsible.

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If necessary, he should be inspected. If necessary, he will be checked. If it's necessary, it will be justified. Including the DPR, where the demands of the people are all silenced. Then, it's the same when the people demand to dissolve the DPR. Why? Because they can no longer meet the aspirations of the people. And it's not illegal to ask for the DPR to be dissolved.

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It's not illegal. It has happened before. When the decree of President on July 5, 1959, then the DPR was dissolved, the condition of the SOB, the military state, the DPR was replaced. With what? DPR gotong royong, DPR-GR, the Gotong Royong DPR-GR. The MPR was also disbanded. The MPR-S for a while, because it was considered to cause political instability. This happened.

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I don't think this be deceived by survey institutions that support you 80%. It's true that they are surveys that make you feel frustrated. These are illusory surveys. You don't have to be biased into being a hallucination officer because you are pushed by high-profile achievements. But in reality, this demo should be an introspection for Prabowo Subianto. There is a growing of satisfaction. Until now, the government-owned survey institutions

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did not conduct a survey. The condition is 25 to 31 August. So, I think the children who are born with a happy father are eliminated. Because since the old days, the ones who made the country collapse No. So, I think the children of the original father are eliminated. Because since the beginning, the people who made the government collapse are these people. Including the consolidation in the government,

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the whole evaluation. If the ministerial representative is needed, in certain cabinets, the majority are not present. Just concentrate on what field? Defense, please.

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Finance, please. Economy, education, please. The rest is not necessary. The international impact that we see from this problem is the PBB said there is a potential violation of the law. They want to conduct education. Even though it is maintained by our minister of law.

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But the other impact is when Mr. Prabowo decided to go to China, I read the international media, at the same time, they didn't give any appreciation appreciate Mr. Prabowo. Except in the country, the photos that are shown are more like photos of three people. Deng Xiaoping, Putin, and Kim Jong-un. Prabowo is not there. If he is in the national media, he is there. It means that it has started to have an impact on Prabowo's confidence.

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Not confidence, but international trust in Prabowo Sbianto is decreasing. Is that right? It is. It is for sure. This is an internal and external pressure. The external pressure is from the outside. In the middle, there was a battle of the three giants, America, China, and Russia. They are interested. The president came to the Chinese event yesterday.

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Of course, America didn't like it. That's why it makes sense that there is a global elite. It's impossible that the situation in the country does not involve global elites. So, I think Prabowo is ... there is a claim that there is a mafia, terrorism, and foreign infiltration. It makes sense. That's why I said,

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this is a narrative to reduce public concern that the president will take firm action. But the firm action must be measured, not to as a tool for the police to arrest students. Students are the ones who are the target, not the enemy. If we look at how many law enforcement that is now protecting. How the police attacked the campus of Pasundan University to Islam Bandung University. It's not allowed.

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They threw tear gas into the campus. The educational institutions, public institutions, the homes of worship, and hospitals are not allowed. This is the law of Geneva that should be respected. So, if we look at it from this side, when the King experienced a reduction in his trust,

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and he needed 14 mass organizations, based on religion, for example, is there a sense of degradation in the society, for example, will there be a degradation in the future? Yes, because the problem is not only the religious figures, but also the campus figures. The observers like this, who have been reminded of it before,

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but not heard of it. In my opinion, the Pope should also open his eyes and ears and nose to kiss the people's feelings. The people's feelings are expressed in forums like this podcast, which is not seen by President Prabowo Subianto. It is covered by people.

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Sir, this is good. Sir, give this appreciation to this. Didn't the public get angry yesterday when the appreciation of the star of the Mahaputra was given to the officials in the Cabinet? It's only been 10 months since the appreciation was given. What have they done? They are some of the people who have done corruption to the old government, and then they were protected.

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Even some of them have been found guilty, and given the star of the Mahaputra. In my opinion, it is worth considering to take away the appreciation. It makes the people angry. The values that should be given should be given after the government is finished. Why are the values given after 10 months? So, there are planning, implementation, monitoring, and then evaluation according to the management law.

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When the evaluation is 10 months, and the evaluation is given, I don't think the government should use the state institutions to give gifts to these people. The people should be given appreciation, not the political elite. 80% of the support from the parliament, political parties, I assume it's useless. Will it be like that in the future?

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Yes, I think so. The enemies in the circle, including the political parties, they have their own agendas. Where is the time? Where is the 58% support for the previous PILPRES? Where is Golkar? Where are the Democrats? Where are the other parties that support Prabowo? Demo, please. Give us support. There is none. Answer the public's doubts that the government program is not pro-people, answer them. Don't you have your own agenda? You can't be like this.

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So, don't be fooled by the politicians, including the political parties. So, 80% of the support in the parliament is also really superficial support, because they have their own political agendas. What about the oligarchy? What is the game that we see from here? Yes, they clearly have infrastructure,

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superstructure, finance, even below. They can control it. They can pay anyone to pay for all kinds of things. Those who are abroad, all kinds of things, can pay the mass to create a riot. So now, it must be elected. President Prabowo, ask for responsibility to these institutions. Why don't we separate the situation from the 25th? We have remembered the 25th. All the live shows, including TikTok and others,

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can be broadcasted. I said, no one can do it. Even on the 28th, we have remembered. That's right. We have remembered the 28th. This is a potential breakdown. If the podcasts are not listened to, it's okay.

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The important thing is we have told the government that there will be potentials like this, potentials to delegitimize the government of Prabowo Subianto, delegitimize the legal staff, delegitimizeizing the legal staff, delegitimizing the parliament. It's clear that the legal staff, don't blame the people,

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soon the great power will be crushed. To then arrest Silvester Matutina, it's impossible. He said he was backed up by the TNI. Meanwhile, the gray matter, like Tom Lembong, he was arrested. This is a fraud. Who is the scapegoat? People will see it that way. I said, there is no reason to arrest everyone who has the potential potentially breaking the law, which was then

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abolished when the Jokowi era was reviewed back and forth. Review it back and forth, don't have any interventions, all kinds of things. The King must free himself from the shadow of Jokowi. So, the era of Jilur that must be without Jokowi. So, Iri Jilur, who has to be without Jokowi, so that he can be safe until 2029. If not, in two years, as people thought, Prabowo will be finished. If we look at the fall of Bung Karno, the fall of Pak Harto. They are the Brutus. And Brutus came from the closest people.

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Bung Karno and Pak Harto. And when the time movement happened, whether it was the 1965 or 1966, the 1997 or 1998, because the 1998 was the year of the crisis in July 1997. So, there was a time before the stock market fell. So, was it the opportunity for the trade union that was first grabbed by President Prabowo Subianto? It's the same as how the king fought against Jokowi. The king seemed to see that he was like a double-headed snake. Double-headed snakes are hypocrites, dishonest people.

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There are many of them in this circle. Because if you face a double-headed snake, it's obvious that you can't hold its tail, because both are heads. And they usually in the real double-headed snake animal, their lives are really in danger. What do they eat? They eat frogs, frogs, rats, worms. This is what we should hold on to.

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That this can kill the king. The king must be reminded that there are many double-headed snakes in the circle of power. And this really needs to be anticipated in unusual, unmeasured, abnormal, and non-standard ways. He must be able to do it. And Prabowo should know that he is a commander. He knows how to fight the two-headed snake in the government. When is the deadline for you to give a hard action?

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20 October. If it's necessary, before 30 September, before 1 October, it's done. The issues, including the elite conflict in the police, must be resolved. in the police force, that must be resolved. The conflict within the government body must be resolved. The government must dare not say that they have worked well, and have achieved achievements, and that they have worked well together.

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Not like that. The public also sees that the government is being swindled by people around him. It's real. Because we imagine a cabinet that is so crowded, more than 100 ministers, it's like there's no teeth. Yes, the more officials, the more difficult it is to control.

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The more organized, the difficult it is to control. The more organized the organization, the easier it is to control. How to control a cabinet of 100 ministers? This is a paradox with what he wants. Where is the so-called Jack and Cabinet? What we demand in this crisis, is words and actions. Make it a Jekan Cabinet, just be professional.

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Evaluate all ministers, remove the gap, and break the hedonism lifestyle. Use the right logic, the right vehicle, including our glasses. Don't use horse's eye glasses. It's on, Abang. Sobat Madilok, we don't have a precise slogan,

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but we leave it to the netizens. What we have been saying in the Madilok program, is it precise or not? Are we anticipating the situation with rationality,

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with the data that has been measured, with valid analysis, or are we just measuring the wave? Because what is the wave measured for? Because we will definitely swim. What is clear is that what happened in the actions of the people yesterday

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was not the last action and was not the biggest action in the eyes of the people's movement. Because the actions of yesterday still show that there are parties who want to control, so the people's masses are not at all gathered in a number that is actually much more if there is no support, if there are no actors to support this, we will see in the next few days or months, our time will be much cleaner, no longer moved by non-time elements. our time will be much cleaner, no longer moved by non-time elements.

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See you next week.

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