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Shocking Arrest: Surgeon Ex-Husband Charged in Brutal Ohio Dentist Murders | Dr. Michael McKee
Ashleigh Banfield x Drop Dead Serious
Hey everyone, I'm Ashley Banfield, this is Drop Dead Serious and oh my god, it's day 11, this is January 10th. I did not expect to be bringing you this breaking news, but there's been an arrest. There's been an arrest in Columbus, Ohio. The story has been just needling me. I've been awake at nights. I have been feeling the Brian Koberger PTSD with someone skulking out there who killed a dentist and his wife in their beds and left their children behind in the bloodbath and made off into the night with not much from
the police to go on in terms of the investigation or the motive or a suspect. And I was starting to think that we were going to go weeks on end like we did after Brian Koberger murdered those four innocent kids in their beds in Moscow, Idaho. That is not going to happen. That is not going to happen. We may get justice for Spencer Tepe and Monique Tepe way, way sooner than we did with Brian Koberger.
And I cannot believe who it was they arrested and how little we knew about Monique Tepe's past. So let me just start from the beginning. First of all, I just want you to know how relieved I am that they've got someone, but also how much more mysterious and how many questions this opens up. Starting from the beginning, everything we know so far, it's just kind
of remarkable. I kind of did a how did we how didn't we go there? Right? Police say that the man they've taken into custody is Michael David McKee. He is 39 years old. Court records list his address as 2100 North Lincoln Park West, an apartment in Chicago. Mr. McKee is 6 foot 1, about 200 pounds, brown hair, green eyes, and all that description is great. But this description is way more important. He is Monique Tepe's ex-husband. Yeah. Not many people knew that she had an ex-husband. I'm going to tell you a lot about this because it was kind of a blip in her life,
maybe more than just a blip in a matter of time that she was married. Maybe there was something really big there because clearly if he's guilty of this murder, holy shit, something really went sideways in that marriage. But there's something else you need to know. He's a medical doctor. A medical doctor.
His practice is listed in Rockford, Illinois. That matters. I'm going to tell you why in a minute. But what kind of a doctor is he? A very, very specialized doctor. He is a vascular surgeon and WebMD says he works or worked at OSF Children's Medical Group Congenital Heart Center in Rockford, Illinois.
According to WebMD, he graduated from Ohio State University Medical School in 2014. And I want to just tell you how specialized this guy is and how much time he has spent in university. While in the back of my mind, again, the Idaho PTSD is kicking in because, you know, we never expected that the guy they arrested for the murders of the four kids at 1122 King Road
was going
to be a PhD student, right? And now here in this case, we have a medical doctor arrested. Get this, in order to become a vascular surgeon, this is just a typical route, four years of undergraduate, four years of medical school, a traditional path will then take you into five years of general surgery residency and then after that an additional two years of vascular surgery fellowship. So that's a lot of
time spent in university in order to become a vascular surgeon. So again, graduated in 2014. And wait until you hear why that matters because because you know, doctors, some will graduate with lots of debt. I'm guessing he may have, because what you're about to find out in a minute, kind of sounds like he was broke ass coming out of school and starting as a doctor. But let me first take you to his address currently on North Lincoln Park West in Chicago. He's got money now. He's in a fairly expensive high-rise.
It's located right on Lake Michigan. Look at the view from his apartment. That is a spectacular view of the water of Lake Michigan. And we found his apartment on Zillow because it's the address listed on the arrest warrant. So my thought is that this is going to be a pretty current address for him. And the Zillow pictures are beautiful. You know, this place is lovely, whether it's in a rented
apartment or a condo, I don't know yet, I'll get there. But look, it's pretty fancy. And the Zillow Zestimate is about half a million dollars. But you know that that can be, you know, can be accurate, can be off, could be upwards of a million depending on all the fixtures and what was in there. That view certainly bumps it to more expensive than the average apartment in that building that doesn't have the view. But if you look at the building itself, it's like beautifully appointed, right?
It's in a really nice neighborhood and the outside of the building is definitely not run down. This is an upscale apartment where this doctor lived. Michael David McKee, Dr. McKee, was arrested early this morning, and again, it is Saturday, January 10th, and they picked him up in Illinois. He is being held right now on an out-of-state warrant for two counts of murder, and they're
saying that he's going to be in court on Monday, in two days, so it's going to be a shitty weekend in jail for Mr. McKee, without a doubt. What is interesting is how police said that they got to him. Behind the scenes, I have been wondering what were these cops, what were these detectives doing?
Why didn't they call in the FBI? Jennifer Kofendorfer wondered why didn't they bring in the FBI? They said they had so much surveillance video to go over that they were overwhelmed. And it's like, well, God, I mean, get help because, you know, tick tock, you know, it's never good if there's a homicidal maniac running around town like Koberger did for a month and a half
after the killings of the Idaho four. But it turns out these cops were doing a lot behind the scenes. This is not some big dramatic confession. This is not a mind blowing tip that opened this case wide open, right? Neighborhood surveillance. This is what it came down to. All those cameras that we've been showing you, obviously, one's on houses, the one that was on the street corner, neighborhood surveillance. That's where this started, and that's how it ended.
Investigators reviewed the footage from all around the Tepe's home, and they spotted something. A vehicle. A vehicle arriving in the area right before the shootings and leaving right after the shootings. What does this remind you of? They followed that vehicle trail. They identified that vehicle. And what do you know? They were able to connect that
specific vehicle back to Dr. McKee, Moe's ex-husband. Police later found this same car in Rockford, Illinois. Whatever it was, there's evidence inside the car that linked them back to Dr. McKee and ownership of the vehicle, not just a rented car, not a stolen car,
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Get started freenot a borrowed car, ownership of the car tied right back to, say it with me, Dr. McKee. And that's when things started getting real quick in the investigation. Now, once you start looking at Dr. McKee's history with Monique Tepe, with Mo, there are details that start to stand out and not in a sensational way, but in a way that matters. Their marriage was very short, like ridiculously short. They got married in August of 2015.
Nice summer wedding, right? But they were already separated by March of the next year. So count with me. That's seven months, seven months, and they were already calling it quits and getting out of each other's hair. Here's what's a little bit weird, doesn't really line up, but okay. They did not file for divorce right away. That's not so odd. Some people try to
work it out during a trial separation, right? They stayed legally married for more than a year after the separation. That's going on a little bit. Like, okay, some people try a separation for a year. So married seven months, already moving out. And then it was like 14 months before they actually filed for divorce.
So May of 2017. So they married in summer of 2015, out of it by the spring of 2016. A year and two months later, May of 2017, they're like, that's it. Call it quits. File the paperwork. We're done.
And then once the paperwork was filed for divorce, it was over almost immediately. And it was finalized by June. So May, June. Yeah. It was like about six weeks. That's really lightning fast. Like they had talked it all out. They had figured it all out. They didn't, you know, end up
in a trial. They didn't do any of that stuff. They did it in a settlement, right? It wasn't a divorce trial. It was a settled event. So that tells you that maybe things were smooth in the way they decided to divorce. Because listen, I've been divorced. I know the process. You can either be real ugly about it or you can talk it out with your person and you can
decide to come to an agreement and then just go to court and stamp it. Six weeks is that. The ugly stuff goes on for weeks and weeks and months and months and years and years for people who just can't get, you know, they're just like at loggerheads. This doesn't sound like that to me. It's a bit strange given where we are.
You got a marriage that ends fast. You got a long stretch of time where divorce isn't filed. Then you go to divorce that's like rubber stamped, lightning speed. So we looked a little further into the filings and buried in those filings are little things that tell you a hell of a lot about how the relationship actually functioned while they were together and separated, right?
Monique listed her engagement ring and her wedding ring as separate property, not marital property. And when asked why she did that, she wrote a very simple answer. You ready for this? It's weird. Quote, I paid. Quote. Okay. Okay. Maybe non-traditional. It's not usual. It's not typical. An engagement ring is usually
purchased by the guy, given to the girl, owned by the girl. There's been a lot of contentious fights in civil court about give me back the ring if the marriage doesn't work out or if the engagement's off and typically it belongs to the person who got it. Then again, oftentimes it's looked at as a contract.
You bought a ring, you gave it to the girl as a promissory contract that there will be a union. So sometimes you can look at it as, hey, it was just a gift, you should give it to me. I own it, ownership is king. But often it can be looked at as contracts.
So there she is writing, I paid. She bought her own engagement and wedding rings. She put the values on them as well. The engagement ring was $2,500. The wedding ring was $3,500. And I know what you're going to say. I know what you're going to say. Wait, the engagement ring was cheaper than the wedding ring. It's usually the other way around.
Like an engagement ring usually has a stone in it, a diamond, typically, not always, but usually. And the wedding ring is usually a band, but no, this is what the documents say. Uh, the divorce documents say she paid $2,500 for the engagement ring and $3,500 for the engagement ring and $3,500 for the wedding ring. And by the way, can I just mention, $2,500 for an engagement ring means you're not really
getting a big stone. You're going to be hard pressed to get a very big stone at $2,500. So I looked at the wedding ring best I could to Spencer Tepe and what that looked like. I don't know if Monique paid for it. I don't know if Spencer paid for it. But from what we can see in her wedding videos and her wedding photos, the stone looks kind
of significant, big enough to stand out in the picture. My guess is that it was likely not a $2,500 engagement ring marrying Spencer Tepe for what it's worth. So I don't know if there was financial acrimony in the last marriage. I don't know if things got so much better in this marriage. Could it have meant pictures like this online that made the ex-husband seething with anger
and seeing this lavish lifestyle and this beautiful wedding and this lovely house? All of these things are things to think about when we're thinking about motive, when we're thinking about how, the whys. There's going to be a lot more talk about all of that, but at the time that the filings, at the time all of that was happening, they were not even living in the same state, right? Dr. McKee and Monique. Monique was living in Ohio and she was working for Nationwide.
And Dr. McKee was working in Virginia at a medical clinic. So not just separation in the same city, they weren't seeing each other more than likely. There was also a standard mutual restraining order that was issued as part of the divorce. And let me stop you right there. I got a divorce. There was no such thing as that for us. Standard restraining order.
I wouldn't have filed it anyway, I didn't have that kind of divorce, but a mutual standard restraining order, maybe it's unique to Ohio, maybe other states as well. It's not standard for every state, I can tell you. But this was boilerplate in this case and maybe a lot of other cases in Ohio, but it does specifically prohibit harassment and bodily harm between spouses. Okay, interesting. Well, this is years ago, right? Right now, Dr. McKee has not entered a plea.
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Get started freeHe's sitting in jail. I don't even know if they have a magistrate on duty, right? It might just be one of those things like it sucks to be arrested on a Friday night or a Saturday because you're going to sit there until judge comes back into work Monday morning, right? It might just be one of those things like it sucks to be arrested on a Friday night or a Saturday because you're going to sit there until judge comes back into work Monday morning, right? Sometimes they have weekend magistrates who can do some things, but they're not going to give you a bond, not typically for something this big. He has
not been extradited back to Ohio yet, so he's still sitting in Illinois, and police haven't laid out a public motive yet. I don't know if there'll be a gag in this case or not, but the case has shifted. It has shifted. Holy shit, did it ever just shift? We're not asking who at this point, we're asking why, and we're asking how. But I do have one big fear. And that is motive. Just like Koberger.
We still don't know. We still don't know what brought him to that house. In this case, at least we have one thing that's crystal clear. He knew this woman. If it's, if it's Dr. McKee, he knew this woman and they had a love affair and it went south and she had a new love affair that was looking pretty good.
Two beautiful kids, great house, successful dentist, lovely wedding video that's all over the internet. And you know that there's a fine line between love and hate, right? And it is a razor's edge and when you tip over, you're in it. You're into hate. So it got me thinking about the three shell casings
and the information about the forensics of the bodies, how Moe and Spencer were found. We know that Moe was shot once in the chest, and we know that Spencer was shot multiple times. I'm thinking twice because there's three shell casings, but I don't know if the killer picked up a couple shell casings on the way out.
I don't know how many times he was shot. But if that's the case, it could be two things.
I hate you.
I want you to suffer. I'm going to shoot you once and watch you die. And I hate him too, but I'm going to take him out with a number of gunshots, right? A little like Betty Broderick, right? If you think about Betty Broderick, Betty Broderick bursted into the bedroom of her ex-husband and his new wife and shot them in bed. Spencer was seen off the bed in a pool of blood, covered in blood.
The 911 caller did not see Mo, but I've got lots coming up on what he did see, where he saw it from, clearing up a lot of the confusion in that. But again, you're going to have to listen to the stuff that I just recorded before the arrest when my headspace was, you know, in the mystery of whodunit and the Idaho, you know, PTSD. But I've got a lot of information on that. And I've done a big breakdown on the cops' response to the welfare check, the body cam. I've got that and I've zeroed in on an address and I do not think that the police were anywhere
near even 4th Street. North 4th Street, not in the investigation that I've done. So without further ado, what I want to do is I want to play for you everything that I just finished recording before this arrest happened. Hey everyone, I'm Ashley Banfield and this is Drop Dead Serious. And I don't know about you, but I'm just going to say it. I have Idaho anxiety. Three years ago when some stranger broke into
college students home just off campus and stabbed four innocent kids to death and then just made off in the middle of the night and we were left all in the dark with some comment from the police like, don't worry, there's nothing to be afraid of, there's no danger to the community. This was a targeted attack. I bring this up because there's something that's brewing in Columbus, Ohio, with this dentist and his wife, who were murdered in the middle of the night. And right now we're at day 10, it's January 9th. And there's nothing. There's no suspect.
There's no leads. There's very little, if anything, coming from the police. And I remember the parlor games, the guessing games, the chewing up of people and spitting them out all over, you know, Moscow, Idaho, until there was a suspect. I just remember like so much trauma from those days. I remember feeling for the people of Moscow, all those kids, the students whose parents
said you're coming home now. I want you home now. You know, Christmas exams be damned, right? I remember that. I remember that terror. And I wasn't even in Moscow, Idaho. I remember Brian Enten from News Nation, my colleague there,
telling me the palpable feelings of what it was like to know that there was a homicidal maniac somewhere out there among them. And the police were saying, don't worry about it. It was a targeted attack. There's no danger to the community.
Well, there was. There was a homicidal maniac who was a big danger to the community. Well, there was. There was a homicidal maniac who was a big danger to the community. But the rest of us were left thinking, well, was this a drug deal gone bad? And are all these four victims a bunch of druggies? And you know, those parlor games were painful. And in retrospect, they were just awful to consider what people were thinking with the
lack in the void, you know, in the vortex of the black hole of no information. And here we are in Columbus, Ohio, and it's starting to feel like those days after Brian Koberger did what he did at 1122 King Road. Something else I want to talk about on this podcast, because the pieces are starting to really come together. I know everybody's been sleuthing like crazy online, but I think we now know a few things
that we didn't know before. For starters, we now have the body cam of the police officer who responded to the welfare check and did not respond to 1411 North 4th Street, which is the Tepe's house. The officer responds to 1417, but I'm going to show you some things in this podcast that may prove he wasn't even on the right street. I don't personally believe that he even got to 1417 North 4th. I think he was on another street.
I'm not kidding. Um, in a minute, I'm going to show you the pictures and count up the houses from the Teappies and prove to you why I believe that. But I also have other information and real sleuthing on the 911 call that came in from Spencer's friend.
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Get started freeHis name is Alex Diddy and he's the one who said, there's a body, there's blood, I can't get any closer. But when you really break down the 911 call, and I'm going to do that in a body, there's blood, I can't get any closer. But when you really break down the 911 call, and I'm going to do that in a moment, you're going to learn for sure he's inside the house. And it's now effectively been proven he's not calling from looking in the second story window, which was so complicated to us, right? How could you get up there? But he's inside the house. And here's what's even more just, I don't know, jaw-droppingly sad.
I think he rescued the four-year-old, maybe even the 17-month-old. And this one-year-old is 17 months old, apparently, closer to two years old. So when I break down the 911 call in a moment, you're going to hear why we now believe that Alex Diddy was inside the house, saw the carnage, got the F out of there, and grabbed the kids and took them downstairs, at least one of them. Okay, so all of that I'm going to go through in just a moment, but I want to start from
the beginning because, like I said, it is starting to feel like the days of, you know, after Brian Koberger slipped into 1122 King Road and butchered those four innocent college kids. That is now three years ago, because whoever murdered a popular dentist and his wife in Columbus, Ohio, 10 days ago, and I'm recording this on January 9th. This is a complete mystery. He's still out there skulking around, but with very little said by the police, you know, and that's just what Koberger did for a month and a half before he was caught. So police actually did address that
elephant in the room. Here's what Chief Elaine Bryant of the Columbus PD said to ABC News yesterday and I quote, I know it's frustrating for people. I know they want answers. As soon as we are able to provide more information, we will absolutely be coming back to talk about that. But right now it's premature for us to say what the motive is, or we don't have a suspect identified at this point. So no suspect yet. No motive yet. And that's exactly where we were at this
point in the Coburger investigation, but eventually they got their man. They got him. So do Columbus police have a handle on this case? Something we just don't know about? All the back-channel stuff that could be going on? Well today they cleared up something.
They are now officially backing up the Tepe family member's claim that an unidentified female caller who called 911 from inside that home nine months before the double murder, was in fact not Monique Tepe, the murder victim.
Hi, this is 911. We just got a hang up call. Is everything okay?
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm okay.
Are you sure?
Yeah, I'm okay. Sorry.
Okay, well it sounds like you're crying. Do you need police, fire, medics or anything?
No, no, I'm okay. I'm just emotional. I don't need nothing.
Well, can I ask what had you called 911 in the first place? Like, were you having an argument?
I'm okay. I promise.
Did anything ever get physical? I'm okay. I promise. Did physical? No. You guys we nobody hit each other. Ye man. Well, I have the inf go ahead and tell the off hit me over to your address there at 1411
942. If anything changes, call us back.
Okay. All right. Thank you.
I'm sorry. So that part is squared away. It officially was not Mo Tepe on the line. But if it was not her, who the hell was it? I'm going to ask a very pointed question about that in just a moment. And I'm kind of going on a theory that some people may think is squirrely, but it's
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Get started freewhere my mind went. And I'm going to get some clarity from somebody who knows a lot about stuff like this in just a second. But now Columbus police are actually going further and releasing another piece of information that seems to add more questions than answers to this mystery. They are confirming that there's been no history of domestic calls from this home,
and that there's been no history of calls to 911 altogether from this home. So how do detectives work these details into the investigation? How might this information help them track the killer? Earlier on my News Nation show, I talked to retired FBI agent Jennifer Kofendoffer, who served on a tactical SWAT team and even worked undercover during her time at the Bureau. And I put this to her and that little theory that I've developed, I wanted to know how she'd weigh in
and here's our conversation. Here is a question, please don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I can't help thinking about it. If it wasn't Mo Tepe now officially, is it possible that this was someone having an affair
with Spencer who was so distraught and angry that she came back and exacted vengeance? And is that a theory that police might actually be running down at this point?
Well, I think it's a logical theory, certainly nothing that we have heard substantiated from law enforcement. But you can bet they are going to run down who made that call, interview that woman,
and find out what the details were surrounding that. So no suspects, no motives, day 10, I am getting, you know, Koberger anxiety. Is that, are you feeling the same thing? Is it shades of BK? It's shades, but this is the piece
that really concerns me, Ash, is why in the world don't we have the FBI involved for the reason of offering to look at all that surveillance video? That chief said they're basically overwhelmed with that video. You need to get the bureau in there to help with the review of that video. It's a really good point because I just assume,
you know, when you have something this mysterious and you're 10 days in that the FBI has already been called. We also learned that the police admitted they went to the wrong house for the welfare check. So normally I would say, okay, so that's just a difference in minutes because someone else came
and eventually the cops got there. But all those people who showed up at the house and were calling the police again to say, you gotta get here. And the second round of cops that got to the house, well, there's footprints now everywhere. So could the killer's footprints be compromised now?
Absolutely, Ashley. That actually cost almost an hour between response times. And remember, there was a friend who actually entered that house, called and reported on that second floor, you know, seeing the tepee, at least Dr. Tepee there, very concerning. Whenever you go to the scene, you leave something
and when you depart, you take something.
So it's a problem.
My thanks to Jennifer Kofendorfer. I always love touching base with her because she does this, right? This is what her whole career was. But there is something that I wanna do now that I think will debunk a lot of the confusion about where the 911
caller was when he discovered the bodies. Was he looking through the window? Was he inside the house? It's all pretty clear now he was inside the house. There's a couple of reasons why I can tell you that that is likely what will become the official account.
And that is the sound of his voice when he discovers the body of Spencer. He does not see Monique. Mo may have been on the other side, fallen off the bed, just like Rob Reiner's discovery. His daughter saw Daddy, did not see Mom, right? She saw Rob Reiner dead, but she did not see her mother, Michelle, dead
because she may have been on the other side of the bed. I think that might have been a circumstance here. But I'm going to play you this 911 call, and I want to just say thank you to Plunder True Crime. It's a YouTube channel that obtained the full 911 call because when you hear the full call,
all the clues come like cascading out. What you're going to hear is Alex Diddy, Spencer's friend, who's inside the house and he's upstairs now in the master bedroom. He sees this awful carnage. He says, Oh God.
And then afterwards, you can hear a child who says something like, Mommy? It's hard to tell, but it sounds like Mommy. And he then, you can hear his footsteps going downstairs, and he goes, Come downstairs. And then he goes on with the details to 911 when he's already downstairs. So the reason he said, I can't get closer, I believe, is because I think he has the child or the children with him downstairs
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Get started freeat this point. So he can't just leave them and he sure as hell can't take them up there to see this. And it may also be the reason why the family member that I interviewed, the children's uncle, told me that he believed that the kids did not see the murder nor the aftermath, the carnage. And it may have been because Alex Diddy got them the hell out of the second floor and
downstairs before, thank God if he did that, before they could see any of that. So I'm going to play the call for you now and listen for those cues that Spencer, that Alex Diddy says about seeing Spencer saying, oh God, and then you hear, mommy, get downstairs now and the footsteps. Have a listen.
911, what's the location of your emergency?
1411 North 4th.
Okay, 1411 North 4th. We've got several calls on that. What's changed since the last person I talked to? There's a body. There's a body. There's a body inside?
Yeah. Okay, hold on one second. Let me get you a call. There's a body inside? Yeah. Okay, hold on one second.
Okay.
Let me get you on the line with the medic, okay? Stay on the line. Okay.
Hello?
Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. What is the address of your emergency?
1411 North 4th.
Okay, 1411?
Yeah.
All right, the house or apartment?
House.
All right, what's going on there? There's a body.
Our friend wasn't inj uh, answering his phone. We just did a wellness check. We just came here,
and, um, he appears dead.
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There's blood. He's laying next to his bed, off of his bed, and there's blood.
I can't get closer to see more than that. Okay, so you can tell he's obviously not breathing or anything?
Yeah. Yeah. Is it like, kind of like, like, you know, because he looks like...
It doesn't look like he's huddled. I can't look.
Okay. All right. I understand. Okay.
And then when was the last time somebody spoke to him?
Like yesterday, I suppose.
Yesterday? Okay.
How old is he?
37. 37. Okay. How old is he? Uh, 37.
37. Okay.
Is he like a drug user or anything like that?
No. No, no, no. Okay. All right. Just, that's a really young age. Yeah, I understand.
Okay. All right. We're on our way. Okay, sir, can you stay on the line for a minute and can you give me your name?
Alex Diddy.
I'm sorry?
Alex Diddy. I'm sorry? Alex Diddy. Alex, what's your last name? D-I-T-T-Y.
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Get started freeHere's something else to think about because I had two children close in age. So I remember when they were four, when they were two, mine are 19 months apart, and these kids are 17 months and four. I never locked them into their rooms. That would be nuts, right? But I did put up child gates so that if they got up in the middle of the night, they wouldn't wander and fall down the stairs or get hurt.
I don't know what Spencer and Mo's setup was on the second floor, but we kind of know that the kids are upstairs. I'm just going to say this, very few parents would ever sleep on a different floor than their babies. It's just not done. Some do, but it's not usual.
So I'm just going to go on the norm that the children have bedrooms upstairs, even though there's bedrooms in the basement of this house. So kids upstairs, middle of the night, gunshots going off, maybe even yelling and screaming, would probably wake up the kids, might have woken up the kids, don't know. But if those kids were up, would the four-year-old have been able to get out of the bedroom and wander and discover?
I don't know. Again, the uncle of the children believes that didn't happen. But it is interesting how it could be that they were kept at bay until perhaps Alex Diddy was able to rescue them and get them downstairs. Anyway, it's something we'll eventually find out, I think, right? But at this point, it's just a fascinating notion to know it's not that big a house.
Kids are on the second floor with parents. Lots of gunshot wounds because Spencer was shot multiple times. Monique was shot in the chest. Guns are loud. That would likely wake up children. And maybe it woke them up and they went back to sleep, knowing that everything had gone
quiet. Anyway, I want to cover this other aspect that is just sort of perplexing, and I've just kind of done some sleuthing with some street views of North 4th. And here's why I think the police didn't even show up on North 4th. They have admitted that they went to the wrong house when they were asked to do a welfare check just after nine o'clock in the morning. And they've said that they went to 1417. And we know
that the Tepe's house is 1411. Well, that's the same side of the street. They're odd numbers, right? So we know that 1417 would be maybe three doors down. Because if you count up by two, which is typically how addresses go, you'd go 1411, then 1413, then 1415, then 1417. Sometimes there's multiple addresses in one house.
So I'll accommodate for that. But we know this. I'm gonna show you a picture of the Tepe's house on North 4th and the police are just out front parked. You can see it's the brown house right behind that light pole. The house on the left is a white house. It's on the corner. Okay, that's eighth. Right, you're on North
4th right now with the cops parked here. But the cross street is on the other side of that house on the left, the White House on the left. That's 8th. So count up from the tepees. If that's 1411, the tepees, the house next door presumably is 1413. It could be 1415 because at some point there's Google addresses that say it's 1413 and 15,
so it might have had apartments in it, but now these look gentrified. They look like they might be single-family homes, but let's just count up anyway. So 1411 is Tepe's, the brown one. Then the next one is brown and white, and it could be 1413 or 1415, which would make the next house 1415 or 1417. But let's just assume these are single family houses. Tepe's 1411. Brown and White House is 1413.
The next house that's kind of beige and brown as well is 1415. And then the house after that, let's zero in on it. The White House that looks older. This one hasn't been knocked down yet, right? And gentrified and rebuilt. That older house, that I get to be, I guess, 1417.
And if you watch the body cam of the cop who is arriving at 1417, I want you to pay close attention to what side of the house the cop walks up and under the address and goes to the door. Because if you look at the house I'm showing you, you can clearly see that the stairway is on the right-hand side of that house, right-hand side of a porch. Now watch the body cam and see if it looks anything like this. I'm going to go to the bathroom. Radio 3-1.
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Got it. Go. Anybody home? I'm going to go to the other side. Bird! Goodbye home! Anybody home? Let's see if I can open it. There we go. Anybody home? I'm gonna go get some water. So So it's obvious that's not the house, right?
That cop walked up to the left-hand side of an older house, 1417, and didn't walk up any stairs, just walked right towards the door. That is not the house that you just saw on the picture I showed you on North 4th, three doors down from the tepees, 1417 North 4th. I for that reason do not believe that the cops were even on North 4th. Look, I'm happy to be disproven because lots of these houses have been knocked down and
rebuilt but that house on North 4th is old. That's been there a long time. And the house that the cop walked up to, that's old too. That's been there for a long time. So I'll be curious to find out what street did they actually respond to. And I also am curious to find out what instruction did the cop get from dispatch?
Did the cop get the address 1411 North 4th and screw up so royally? Or did the cop get a bogus instruction from dispatch? That part of the tapes I haven't heard yet, and I'm willing to suspend disbelief until I get more clarity. So that's where we stand and all I am thinking about is what the cops have already because they have to get to a bar where they can make the arrest because the clock starts ticking when you make an arrest. You got to have enough. You got to have enough because you constitutionally have a right to a
speedy trial in America and if a defendant says I want a speedy trial in America. And if a defendant says, I want that speedy trial, you better be prepared, coppers, then you better be prepared. Right? So you always have to have enough to make the arrest. Not everything for a prosecution, but you have to have enough. And then once the arrest is effectuated, then you go even deeper and you just nail the case
down as much as you can before trial. So my mind is now going to what do they have, what they find in his car when they grabbed it in Illinois, in Rockford, Illinois, what they find in his apartment, what did they get off his electronics, his phone, his laptop, Google searches, geolocating, did he case their house? Koberger cased 1122 King Road over and over and over for months before the murders. Did Dr. McKee case that house? Did he drive by as a jilted lover might? Did he do those things? Was he parked there at three in the morning,
staring into the windows? What was he doing up to the murders? We already know that they have geolocated his vehicle in that neighborhood around the home right before the shooting and right after the shooting. But what about the days leading up to it? What about the morning after? Did he come back and check? If he did this,
did he come back and check his handiwork? Did he come back to see the police activity? Did he drive by to be a spectator? Coburger did it. Coburger came back at 9am. I think he was looking for his knife sheath, not so much looking for police activity. But a lot of times, killers do this. They come back and they watch the activity and they kind of like enjoy secretly being behind the scenes, being like, I'm right here and you don't even see me or know it's me. Did he do that?
Also what kind of communications has he been having with Monique Tepe recently?
Any?
Is this, could it be, if he's guilty, could it be five years of just seething anger boiling over in a moment where he might have seen a wedding video online? Or ten years of anger of losing someone he didn't want to lose? Is that possible? Because again, they're apart ten years ago, she's married five years ago to some new man. So I want to see what the cops are gonna find on all his electronics. And by the way, I'd expect right about now, if not already, his practice, where he works,
any hospital he works in, there are warrants going up the ass to go through every single computer that he ever used, or anybody near him may have used to do Google searches, to do communications, anything like that. All of that will go to motive and will connect him to something if he's the guy, right? This is where they're going to be going with the investigation. I'm also fascinated about the geo-locating on the vehicle.
I don't know what kind of vehicle it is, specifically what year or what electronics it has, but so many vehicles nowadays, man, they just like leave a popcorn trail everywhere you drive. So that's going to be fascinating just to see the popcorn trail of that vehicle, not only the night of the murders, but everything beforehand and everything afterwards, right? Because that's also a big piece of the puzzle.
So long story short, we're only at the beginning of this thing. There's so much more to learn about the why, the how, and the what they're going to do to get a prosecution or if they're not going to go to trial, to get God forbid a deal, right? I always say God forbid a deal because it leaves so many details away from the public like Koberger, but it does save the people of the jurisdiction millions and millions
of dollars. Here's one more thing I'll say, and that is that Ohio is a death penalty state. I know a lot of states have got moratoriums and they're trying to figure out the drugs or the shooting gallery or whatever they're going to do to execute people, but as it is on the books, Ohio is a death penalty state. And in order to decide whether you're going to charge somebody and seek the death penalty, you got to know, like it's got to meet some barometer, right?
And you got to meet a bar. And this one meets it. Multiple victims. Children left orphaned in the bloodbath. Children left at the scene. A four-year-old who ostensibly may have been able to get up and wander after the gunshots or in the morning and see a
bloody mess of the parents. And also the pain and suffering that Monique may have felt. I don't know about Spencer given multiple gunshots, but being shot in the chest may not mean death right away. It may be a few seconds and that's enough for pain and suffering and heinous, atrocious, cruel elements to apply to aggravators. So these are all the things that I'm just going to go on the record.
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Get started freeI would not be the least bit surprised if prosecutors in this case say they are 100% seeking the death penalty, if for the children alone. All right, so make sure you're subscribed because I kind of feel like details are going to come fast and furiously, and I may do a lot of shorts with details on the case. And I want to make sure you're up to speed on this at every step of the way. As I always say, I'm Ashley Banfield, and I'm so thankful that you're part of my community.
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