Transcribe all your audio with Cockatoo
Blazing fast. Incredibly accurate. Try it free.
No credit card required

Shut The F#%k Up, Megyn Kelly! Black women’s hair issues are real
Roland S. Martin
I try my best to ignore dumb ass Megan Kelly. The other day she made a comment after Zoran Mandani's speech. The mask is off. Well, first of all, her hateful mask has been off for a very long time.
We knew her ass was trifling at Fox News and then when she went to NBC, we knew she was full of shit there. That's why she lost her job there. Now she walked away with 69 million. I don't know what the hell Andy Lack was thinking,
thinking her ass was gonna appeal to anybody at NBC and gave her all that damn money. You never, they don't never give black folks those 69 million, work for a year and a half. I mean, work for a year and a half and then you walk away with $69 million.
So now she's doing her own thing. She run around, got her own network. She on serious New York post promotes any dumb ass thing. This fool says, and so she always is weighing in on black shit. And it has anybody who should have a big ass sign that says shut the fuck up when it comes to black stuff. It should be Megan Kelly. Okay. So before I even get into her comments, let me remind y'all, this is what the dumbass Megyn Kelly had to say about Santa Claus when she was on Fox News.
Santa Claus should not be a white man anymore. And when I saw this headline, I kind of laughed and I said, oh, this is so ridiculous. Yet another person claiming it's racist to have a white Santa, you know? And by the way, for all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white, but this person is just arguing that maybe we should also have a black Santa. But, you know, Santa is what he is, and just so you know, we're just debating this.
Okay, Santa's fictional, so she was stupid as hell there, so you could have a black Santa, a brown Santa, a white Santa, but again, that's one of you dumb ass. She really was sitting here acting like they were having a factual debate over a fictional ass character. But anyway, so then when she took her ass to NBC Today show, then of course she had to run her damn mouth when the issue of Halloween
and blackface came up. Here's what this fool said.
Freedom of expression, this is not in our country, but freedom of expression is a beautiful thing, so is freedom of speech. It's part of why I like living in the United States of America. If you're gonna dress like an idiot,
act like an idiot, and actually dress and be racist, then somebody should say something to somebody, but you should still be able to dress like a moron.
But what is racist because because it's a truly that you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on black Halloween or black person who puts on white face Halloween like I was a kid that was OK as long as you address a
character if somebody feels like something is offensive to them then you should say it and that's fair game. Take it if
you're going to dress up like you got to be able to take it.
I hope make sure can learn her lesson. Why don't you stay away from holidays? Cause your track record ain't good talking about holidays. So now we got the latest stupid shit. Now earlier this year, she hit the nerve to call Jamel Hill ugly.
I mean, when you're a flat ass, skinny ass, bony white woman, you really should not be talking about the looks of other people. Okay. And that's just a fact. Okay. So here you have Michelle Obama sitting down with Robin Roberts. It was some special on ABC and the former first lady said this
about her hair. Okay. We don't have the Michelle Obama comment. Okay. Y'all, that's what set up. Okay. So hold on. Let me, let me, cause that sets up the Megan Kelly deal. So we should have had that. So, all right. So, uh, and, and, and, you know, first of all, I didn't see the special, uh, I didn't even know anything about it. And it was just like, okay, fine.
But then all of a sudden I'm looking at some other comment and they were talking about it. Well, actually Michelle Obama was talking about the idea of straightening hair and things along those lines. And this actually was, I think this was the comment right here.
So go to my iPad.
Hair as women of color, that the way our hair naturally grows out of our head, it's beautiful, but if we struggle to make it look like the standard, that means we are spending thousands of hours and lots of money straightening out what is naturally curly hair, right? And that takes time out of your life. It costs money.
"99% accuracy and it switches languages, even though you choose one before you transcribe. Upload → Transcribe → Download and repeat!"
— Ruben, Netherlands
Want to transcribe your own content?
Get started freeInterview that she did. That wasn't the one with Robin Roberts. So a white woman, Megan Kelly who ain't got curly hair, who has no idea what any black woman has to deal with when it comes to her hair, her silly ass decided to weigh in.
Once again, we haven't lived up to their high standards and we're essentially being called racist. Here's Michelle Obama who's promoting a new book on her special fashion, and sat down with People magazine and said the following in Sat 26.
Here as women of color, that the way our hair naturally grows out of our head, it's beautiful. But if we struggle to make it look like the standard, that means we are spending thousands of hours and lots of money straightening out what is naturally curly hair, right? And that takes time out of your life. It costs money.
Okay.
So what she's saying is she's bitter because society's standards in her view, don't allow black women to just walk around with their natural hair. That is bullshit. Black women can walk around with whatever hair they want. Only in Michelle Obama's warped mind do white people not like them like them unless their hair looks like white hair? And here's the other thing.
The nerve, the nerve of this woman to pretend that black women are the only women who have to spend a bunch of time getting their natural hair to, quote, conform to these alleged society standards because virtually every woman I know, every woman spends a shit ton of time on her hair and wants it to look better than God made it. It's not a black thing.
It's a human thing. And it's especially a woman thing, but she's always reducing everything to race.
A lot of people who watch this show and they pray for me all the time and they say, Roland, please, do you have to cuss? And I really try my best not to cuss. But in this case here, I just got to go ahead and say, Megan Kelly, please shut the fuck up. You literally don't know shit about black people.
You don't know shit about black women and hair. In fact, you're so fucking stupid. Megan, you can't even follow the news. Antoinette go to my iPad. There is something Megan called the Crown Act. It was first passed in the state of California, which forbid hair discrimination in America.
Congresswoman Bonnie Coleman has been trying to get it passed on the federal level. It passed the House, but Republicans in the Senate actually blocked it. So yeah, numerous states have actually passed the Crown Act. Even Republican as conservative as Texas passed the law called the Crown Act.
We have examples of black men and black women who have been discriminated against because of their hair. If your dumb ass, Megyn Kelly, could do any fucking research, you would realize it's an issue. Take this last year, the American screening had to pay $50,000 to settle an EEOC race discrimination lawsuit. Why was that the case? It's because a black woman, Megan was fired from her job because of her natural hair texture. Listen to what it says. According to the lawsuit, oh Megan,
this is from eeoc.gov. The Trump people actually left the story up. It says, according to the lawsuit, a black employee interviewed and was selected for a sales position with American Screening while wearing a wig with long straight hair.
After she stopped wearing the wig and started wearing her hair in its naturally curly texture, the company's owner instructed a human resource manager to counsel the employee about her hair and quote, looking more professional,
complaining that the worker quote, came in with beautiful hair unquote. The employee's hair, considered type 4A on the Andre Walker hair typing system is commonly associated with people who like the employee are black.
The owner then directed the employee to begin wearing her wig with straight hair again. When the employee continued to wear her natural hair, the company fired her. The company later hired a white worker in her place, according to the EEOC's lawsuits. Okay, Megan, your dumb ass is a lawyer. Here's the next graph, Megan. Such alleged conduct violates Title VII, come on, Title VII of the civil rights act of 1964, which prohibits
firing employees or subjecting them to different terms and conditions of employment because of their race. The EEOC filed suit at the first attempting to reach a pre-litigation settlement through its administrative conciliation process. The suit had been pending in the U.S. District Court for the Western District, Louisiana, and was resolved by a consent decree which was entered by the court on April 4, 2024. Now, Megan, if you and likely your lily white staff could learn to do some research, what you will discover that there
are a litany of cases, a litany of suits, a litany of settlements involving hair discrimination. In fact, several years ago, out of Virginia, a black woman with major credentials was being hired by, in Virginia. Well, guess what? The white man on the committee said, hmm, I don't particularly like those things in her hair. I don't like those cornrows, those braids. And so they did not give her the job.
So guess what? She sued and she won, including back pay. So there's a long history, Megan, in America, in numerous places where the issue of hair is there. So when Michelle Obama is talking about hair, you got white people, white bosses, white folks in media who,
Transcribe all your audio with Cockatoo
Get started freehmm, we don't like those curls, hmm, we don't like those bangs, ooh, we don't like braids, ooh, we don't like natural hair. This is very common. We've had folks in media who have to deal with that.
Women who've been anchors, women who've been meteorologists, who've actually sued because of this. We've dealt with this at the National Association of Black Journalists. And so Megan, if your lily white ass
will go talk to some black people at Sirius or some other places, you might know this. Go talk to some black folks in the makeup room. Go talk to, hear from some black actresses who talk about the difficulties being on set with people who know how to do black makeup
and do black hair. See, when you are a white woman, Megyn Kelly, like yourself, you are oblivious to the realities of women of color in this country and all the stuff they have to deal with.
You know why? Because you are a blonde haired white woman who gets to do things her way. And so you don't understand what it means to be a black woman or a Latina or an Asian woman when in America, this country is established
based upon white as the standard. So remember when I said folks in media, what they had to deal with? Well, guess what? Brittany Noble, who joined Blackstudent Network, she knows this very well.
She was a top anchor in Mississippi and dealt with a white news director dealing with her hair and went through a multi-year battle because of it. Brittany, tell folk what the hell you had to deal with with natural hair and a white boss.
It wasn't just in Mississippi, Roland. It's everywhere that I've worked at in TV news locally. Even this time last year, I was told that I had to take down my locks by January of 2025. And then when I was back in 2018,
when I was working in Mississippi, my boss told me that I needed to look like a beauty queen. I did try to file a lawsuit. I did, um, go to the EEOC.
Hold on one second. No, Risa's gotta go, but I gotta get, I want Risa to, I want you to finish the story. Risa's about to go, but I gotta get Risa to weigh in on this. And then you're gonna finish with your story. Risa, go. Well, first of all, I'm not explaining racism to her because that's her currency. She traffics in racism.
She knows good and motherfucking well that you cannot be a black woman. You cannot be the first lady of the United States with an afro, like Angela Davis. So she's gaslighting. But bitch, if you know all your white girlfriends
have to spend thousands of dollars on getting their hair done. And what the fuck is the problem with Michelle Obama saying that she got to spend money to get her hair done? Look, I got to spend money to get my hair done, too. It costs money to look this good, okay? Right now, this might be Brazilian or some baby Malaysian, but I might have a little flip over curly sore head.
Whatever.
Black women, we can do got the seasoning of Michelle Obama. You can't sell a book about your thigh high boots, about your Gucci nothing, about your hair, about your makeup, because you ain't poppin' like that. That's why you got to sit up on the fucking internet talking shit about the real bad ass
forever first lady, Michelle Obama.
So stay mad hoe. All right, that's Reese's perspective. Reese, I appreciate it. You gotta go. Uh, so go right ahead and finish, uh, uh, uh, Brittany.
I mean, it's just hard to hear Megan say the things that she did because it's, it's truly, truly hard to be a TV news anchor and, uh, wear your hair
the way that you want to wear your hair.
"Cockatoo has made my life as a documentary video producer much easier because I no longer have to transcribe interviews by hand."
— Peter, Los Angeles, United States
Want to transcribe your own content?
Get started freeNow, you were angry at Mississippi Wynne of how long ago?
It was, I left back in 2018.
Okay, so this is 2025 and a lot has changed over the last several years. And so you had, what I mean by that is there's an increasing number of sisters who are wearing their hair natural. They talked about it. I forgot who's the sister at ABC. She went, she, she did something on it. We've had some wins.
So, so, so we had some wins, but the Crown Act also has played a role in that because now you have legislation that has been enacted. And again, they're still efforts trying to get it happen on the federal level, but this notion of straightening your hair
and having to wear it a certain way, this white standard, that is the reality, not just in television, but for black women in numerous industries. And again, the lawsuits prove it.
Yeah, absolutely. My lawsuit was thrown out. They could not connect race to hair. And we know that.
Which is utterly ridiculous. Which is ridiculous.
Noah.
Oh my goodness. So I have hair trauma every single day. As a woman with natural hair with locs, I am told things like, oh, your hair is so beautiful for locs. You know, I hear that all the time. And the what they really are saying is that we don't consider locs to be beautiful or that they can be sexy and glamorous. And thank you so much for showing us that they can be. So it is
always about the person that's hurling the insult. It's always about them. Right? And so Megyn Kelly clearly has a problem with Black women. And she loves to do this thing. She loves to dismiss what we say all the time by saying, oh, it's always race with you people. In actuality, she's doing the thing. She's proving Michelle Obama's point, which is absolutely hilarious, right?
But we know, we know about the long history with black women in hair. One of the first, my first black traumatic hair thing happened when I did a commercial, when I was like 16, 17 years old, when the white French director wanted this white woman to just use a blow dryer
for my curls. And, you know, and I was like, no, no, no, I need a high comb. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, y'all can't just do that to my hair and you hired me with curly hair. And that scar has stayed with me as a grown woman in my 40s. Like these hair traumas that happen to Black women every single day, that's just part of these microaggressions that we just have to like internalize and keep it moving. And so that's why I texted you if you were going to queue up salons, don't touch my hair.
Because guess what? No, don't touch my hair. Don't think about my hair.
Don't talk about my hair.
We are not the same. Period. Greg?
I'm just listening and always in appreciation of the hair of African people. And of course, as Malcolm X said, the most disrespected woman in the society, person in the society is a Black woman. I've stood at this point 14 times in the Cairo times and looked at a case of human hair wigs made by the ancient Egyptians with every kind of braid and curl that we see today. I'm talking about wigs, some of them going back 5,000 years. The micro braids, the dukey braids, everything. Does anybody want to argue whether Egyptians are black?
Come on with me. I'll take you to the Cairo Museum. You'll see who they are. But, you know, listen to this. And Michelle Obama's new book, The Look, is magnificent. It's a photo book. It's a coffee table book. But it's really a journey.
And she talks about those two terms that they were in the White House and how she had to literally craft herself, her hair, her look, her style, her fashion, to make sure that she was able to navigate those straights. And sometimes it meant even had she had her hair braided, they put a wig on. Why? Because I know y'all can't handle that. When her arms were out, although nobody complains about Ric Flair, when she has, wait, Marjorie Taylor Greene, when she has her arms out,
Transcribe all your audio with Cockatoo
Get started freewhen Michelle Obama has her arms out, all of a sudden there's this kind of suppressed desire that comes out as contempt on behalf particularly of white men who are really desiring black women, if we really look too close at it. But all that on one side. I'm just listening here, my sister, Ojuwa Osamuwa, one of the architects of the Crown Act, of course, this fight continues. There's a Crown Act that passed in Texas, wasn't it? And after that one, after that boy, covered that. So I'll end with this as it relates to Megan. I think the problem that she has here in the Black Star Network and in the Black community generally is that, um,
no one cares about the sprigs vomiting out of your unmoisturized melanin deficient scalp Afghan hound.
Well, now, um, since again, since Megan, since you call yourself an attorney, why don't you go look up the case EEOC versus catastrophe management management solutions. This is a case out of Alabama, again, alleging hair discrimination. And that's the thing that, again, folk like you don't understand. See, Megan Kelly, here's the whole deal.
You are so shameful and despicable that what you wanna do is you wanna attack Michelle Obama at any turn. You want to single her out and trash her, but your ignorance is showing in this case because you don't even understand
that what she was talking about, the time and energy and money that black women have to spend on their hair is often a result, not because of looks, not because of it takes time, energy, and money to get your hair straight.
In many cases, black women are having to do that in response to white standards,
white standards.
White standards in the workplace, Megan. So again, you are showing how ignorant you are about the law, about race, and about gender. And so when you come out and make some dumb ass comments, you literally make my job easy. Cause I didn't even have to work hard to counter your sheer stupidity. And so you can sit on your series show that and your show and you own and you got your
right wing company and you're launching this right wing streaming channel and you're doing all of those things. But Megan understands every time your ignorant ass says some stupid shit like this here, we going to use this show that I own that also stream to counter your stupidity. So when people are Googling and they come across you and your whiny ass complaining about Michelle Obama and hair,
they're going to also come across this video. And they're gonna actually see the facts because see what I laid out were simply actual facts. And so Megan, I'll help you. Go to my iPad, Antoine. Megan, if you simply go to right here, thecrownact.com, then you will actually see the legislation
and how, oh, Dove, National Urban League of the Color of Change, Western Center on Law and Poverty, how they are working to combat this. Then you'll see right here, the 2023 Crown Workplace Research Study. Oh, why don't you do this here?
Go to Google and just very simply, Megan, type in black woman and EEOC and hair lawsuit and you'll see the numerous cases where these things exist. As if you actually care. And so I don't care for your show. I don't care for your perspective because you're not actually trying to have real debate
and dialogue. What you want to do is show your hate. You want to sit here and yell at Taylor Swift and you want to trash Jamel. What you want to do is show your hate. You want to sit here and yell at Taylor Swift and you want to trash Jamelle Hill and you want to trash Michelle Obama with all that back and forth. And I really do not have time for a petulant, childish, raging, screaming, yelling white woman of privilege and all of her nonsense. But I will
say this, Megan, when you decide to open your mouth and you wanna speak about black women and hair or black people issues like this here, trust me, I will be here to smack your ass every single time with truth and facts. So I'mma close on this here
because when we did our crown X special I reached out to my girl India are and of course, she has a famous song that deals with the issue of hair and when we did that crown X special to the first year, she did this special song just for me. So Megan, this is for your ignorant simple strand bland strand blonde hair. Check this out.
I am India Ali.
This is Joe Cross.
And this is my jam, baby. Little girl with the pressing curl. Age eight, I got a jerry curl. 13 and I got a relaxer. I was the source of so much laughter. 15 when it all broke off. 18 and I went all natural.
"Your service and product truly is the best and best value I have found after hours of searching."
— Adrian, Johannesburg, South Africa
Want to transcribe your own content?
Get started freeFebruary 2002, I went on and did what I had to do. Cause it was time to change my life. To become the woman that I am inside. 97 dreadlocks all down. I looked in the mirror for the first time and saw that, hey, I am not my hair.
I am not the skin. I am not your expectation, no. I am not my hair. I am not the skin. I am the soul that lives within. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.
Good hair means curls and waves. Bad hair means you look like a slave. At the turn of the century, it's time for us to redefine who we be. You can shave it off like a South African bee. Cut it on lock like Buh-Mah-Lee. You can rock it straight like Oprah Winfrey.
If it's not what's on your head, it's what's underneath. Then say, hey, I am not my hair. I am not the skin. I am not your hair, I am not the skin, I am not your expectations, no. I am not my hair, I am not the skin, I am the soul that lives within. Does the way I wear my hair make me a better person?
Does the way I wear my hair make me a better friend? Does the way I wear my hair determine my integrity? I am expressing my creativity. So consider this for a moment. This song is actually not about hair. It's about self-definition and how we define each other. So there's a difference in identifying with something and identifying as something.
And so in this song I'm saying that I identify with my external characteristics, with my blackness, with my beauty, but I identify as my soul. And the truth is racism and discrimination is actually born out of identifying people as their external characteristics. And so we needed legislation to say
that people can wear their hair however they want to at work.
Sad that we need it, glad that we have it.
So, this is our song.
♪ I am not my hair, I am not this skin, I am not your expectation, love.
I am not my hair, I am not this skin, I am the soul that lives within. That's why Black-owned media matters. I am not my hair, I am not this skin, I am the soul that lives within. That's why Black-owned media matters. And that's why this show matters.
Get ultra fast and accurate AI transcription with Cockatoo
Get started free →
