Simon Jordan EXPLAINS the LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS of Manchester United Appointing Michael Carrick!

Jim White, it's Simon Jordan, and it's Arsenal Invincible Martin Keown.Arsenal go into action, of course, right at the tail end of the season.They're up against Burnley.It's live in Talksport.Three more points, probably inching, inching ever closer.

Jim, I've just got to share this with you.I was out there talking to one of the news team.And I'm not going to name him.And he just said, we want Arsenal, don't we?The whole world wants Arsenal to lose tonight.So what do you mean?

So what takes it to the last game?It'd be great, wouldn't it?It'd be fantastic news.What a story that would be.What on earth is he thinking?If he's an Arsenal fan, does he want that?

Well, he's not wrong.That would be a story, wouldn't it?Are you saying that?Do you reflect that view?Let's get it out there.

Look at the story we've just been discussing.

About Southampton Hearts and the final of V up North Both teams Jim, they both, what was it 8 games that Martin O 'Neill's team won and then 7 that the Hearts, they both went right through to the last game I want to see Arsenal win tonight, I want to see Manchester City lose tonight because I don't want your lot parading around at Sellers Park any more than I have to, I want them all to be able to win the league But it's just interesting because, you know, the so -called neutral.Is there a neutral in the news world?All right.All right.And there's a news story.Well, that's what they want, don't they?

The bigger story.It's bigger news if Arsenal don't win it right now.That's media.

That's why I wanted West Ham.I couldn't care less about West Ham.I'd quite like to see Salah in non -league.

But the fact of the matter is I wanted him to win yesterday.Exactly.It's goading.People are in your face saying it.You can't even have a conversation with people without being goaded.

A member of the news...Let's get...Well, you started this.Let's sort this out now.A member of the news team somewhere out there on the 17th floor of the news building...

He's hiding now.Look, he's hiding.He's hiding.Probably some 17 -year -old.

I've got a rough idea who it might have been.I took it upon himself to say that if Arsenal blow it against Burnley and Manchester City win at Bournemouth, wouldn't it be great to go to the final day?So what's goading about that?

well it's what Arsenal fans have to deal with in the work that's coming down the country right now.

One of the most memorable achievements surely goes back to 1989 watching Michael Thomas score that goal at Anfield.Exactly.And the last game of the season were people goading Arsenal not to win the league then then.It's just about the intrigue of a story.If you go around the news cycle every day repeating who said what, when and why, something different creates a different energy.Quite right, the Michael Thomas moment, the Sergio Aguero moment.

Absolutely.

There's no politeness.People just say it to you now, just wherever you go, in your face.Dear me, you're still crying agenda, Martin.Come on, Arsenal.Agenda, agenda.Let's get it done.

Last time to name the person who said that to you.

I'm not going to name names, Jim.No.You know me.All right, OK. I'll name a name, Michael Carrick, because while we've been talking about Xabi Alonso going in, Chelsea.Michael Carrick reportedly will sign an initial two -year deal with the option of an additional 12 months.Why?

Because he's guided the club to Champions League qualification since taking over from Amerim in January.In 16 matches, he's had 11 wins, three draws, two losses.The last win, of course, just there at the weekend.This was Carrick on the pitch talking to the faithful.

it's a huge thank you for me for the support this season you know we enjoy the ups we enjoy the downs we support each other and the best place the best thing about this place as Cassie just said it's it's it's you lot it's the supporters and and the thing is for me just just one minute it's it It's easy to support and it's easy to enjoy and it's easy when everything's good and everything's nice and everyone joins in and everything's great.Really support and I think the connection I've felt from the moment I walked in this place 20 years ago, it's some of the challenging times and the tougher times, it's when we stick together, and this place is incredible.You know, you're a one -off and that's what the football club's all about, so thank you.

Michael Carey talking to the Manchester United faithful so Alonso in at Chelsea Simon Carrick in at United who's got the tougher job?

Is he going as head coach or manager?Because if he's not going in as manager he's buggered.He's going in as head coach.Well then he has no chance he won't have any control over who they buy.I'm not sure.I mean, we've spoken about...

I mean, it'd be interesting to see what Martin thinks of this, because, obviously, as a player, with someone that's come in to do a job on the back of someone that's done a bad job, he comes in.Whatever Amirim did badly amplified what Karrick has done well.So, the idea that Karrick has done well, which he has done well, if you look at his performances, he's beaten everybody that he needs to beat.He's beaten all the top sides in the division, including Arsenal.So, with that in mind, you look at it and say, well, come on, he's done his resume.For me, He becomes Manchester United manager or head coach or whatever the terminology is when the season starts next year.

And then the rules of engagement have changed.The expectation levels have changed.The recruitment policies will have been built around him.The players' relationship will differ.And then we will see.I have reservations.

I think we had callers coming in the last two, three weeks that were, surprisingly, despite the achievements that Carrick has brought to the fore, were all of the mindset, which was, thank you very much for steadying the ship.Thank you for getting us into Europe, but we need someone slightly a bit different to be able to take us forward.They haven't gone that way.We cannot take anything from the track record of the people that are making these appointments.Their track record has been not particularly admirable.So if you look at Jim Ratcliffe, he's got a team like Nice that's sitting in the bottom of Ligue 1.

You've got a situation where he's employed people at Manchester United currently that have not worked well.Get rid of Ten Hag.The only thing he did with Ten Hag was did a ridiculous thing of giving him a new contract, which was absurd.But other than that, there's nothing in that room that has told us, inspiration -wise, whether it be Barada, Jason Wilcox or Jim Ratcliffe about the appointments they've made, whether it beAmerim, whether it be Dan Ashworth, that suggests that they're going to get this one right.But Carrick has earned the right to be in a situation.

It is difficult because Ten Hag was allowed to stay when he won an FA Cup.Given a new contract.Given a new contract, he probably shouldn't have stayed.I thought Amerim should have gone at the end of last season.And he carried on in this job for far too long.I know he bought well.

He bought well, but he was buying players for a different system.Well, my character, Michael Carrick, has done really well, was to sort that problem out.Jermaine, who's coming to midfield, was told he was surplus to require.Are they title contenders next season, Martin?I'm just talking about what Carrick has done.Let's, for a minute.

And Martínez come in alongside Maguire, no one thought Maguire was going to come back in.So he's put a back four in place, Luke Short's come.So he's changed the system, got the best from the group.Casemiro now is looking, should we let him go, shouldn't he?When he looked like he was completely finished in a midfield that was being completely overrun.Fernandes has come in and been a revelation.

this season.We know that he can play, but he's got even better.

Look at the skill and quality that he shows.When you think of Carrick, Martin, and then we think of Alonso, and then we think of Arteta, and then we think of Guardiola, and then we think of Emery, and we are now projecting Man United not to be a competitive side, but to be a side that's got to win again.That's what they're there for.That's what their DNA is.Do you put Carrick in your mind's eye and go, well, obviously, he's going to go up against these guys.Obviously, if it's in the dugout now, he's going to be as good as these guys because, in part, it is in the dugout.

I think when you look at it is when you look at what he's done.since when he came in, was it January, Jim, that he came into the team?And he wins what, he beats Man City, Arsenal, in his first couple of games, or first two matches.Quite remarkable.I mean, when you look at what he's done, what he's achieved, I do believe he needs to be given the opportunity to do it, finish the job off, right, so to speak.But he's going to have to get results.

What involvement is he going to have?I mean, there's so many things within the club.Dan Ashworth was director of football for the last five months.How long, I mean, they'll have to make decisions.They won't give him the time.of time Ameriem has.

If it doesn't start well for him, Jim, changes will be made.I don't think they will.I don't think they will.I think it's going to be one of those, they've been a little bit slow to actually sign this contract for him because he has been in place now?

I think they've done it.To be quite blunt, I think they've had no race to be able to employ him until the season had finished.What was the race?Unless it was somebody else.

But doesn't that say something in itself though?

No, I think they should be getting his signature on the paper.I think they should take their time.No, I think he was always going to sign a contract if it was offered to him.It was about whether it was going to be a contract.The interesting thing is, if it doesn't work out, they've left the framework for Gareth Southgate.Apparently they like him because they've got Steve Holland in there so they can get him in on the back of that.

So very briefly, Alonzo at Chelsea, Carrick at United.It's going to be closer to getting a title triumph next season between those two.

It's an interesting one.I think both teams can go well.You know, but Alonso, you saw their performance at the weekend against Man City.They were very much in that game for large periods.You saw the quality return.It's about getting the right tune out of some of those players and really managing.

But I think Carrick with the right additions, they can go well, but I don't see them winning anything.

I don't think anyone with any certainty can alight upon this and go, Well, I think this is going to be a guarantee you've got the x -factor of what Chelsea is and what they've bought and how they're going to recruit and how they've got their recruitment wrong and the idea that the ownership interferes on a daily basis with the manager and a manager that whilst has got a big reputation for one season has only managed 174 elite games.

If you look at the players he's going to have, they're not going to be in the Champions League are they?

No, I hear that.Man United are and they've only had 40 games this season.I don't know what success looks like for Chelsea next year, qualification for the Champions League and then you look at Manchester United, what are you going to judge Carrick by?Are you going to judge him by the last three or four years?No, I mean in terms of what's the blueprint for him.If you judge him by the 16 matches you say, fantastic, he's done wonders.

But I believe, and I don't know what you feel, that his job starts now.It is no longer Michael Carrick interim manager, it is no longer Michael Carrick managing the press.car crash that Ruben Amerim left.It is Michael Carrick, manager of Manchester United or head coach of Man United, with a blueprint to be successful.

And that's a whole different set of rules.I think he can be proud to have achieved this in his time, but now he needs to go to work.Okay.Now he needs to really manage a major...

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