Sobreviví 32 años en máxima seguridad, hoy estoy libre | Nucamendi #Penitencia #entrevista #México

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the In this act I inform you that in compliance with the Office 3012-1184-2025, signed by the judge of control and the Court of Inquiry into Functions, the extension of the prison sentence for 33 years and 6 months, you were charged with the criminal offence of 2599-2015. You are now free.

We are in another chapter of Penitence, this project where we interview people who are in prison. People who we seek to understand their stories, more than the crime. We are with Nuka M want to understand their stories, beyond the crime. We are with Nuka Mendy.

To serve you.

You have been like this your whole life. When we were talking you were telling me, when you went to jail, or when you escaped from jail for the first time. I had not even been born yet.

Not yet.

Almost. How does someone escape from the Barrientos prison in 1988?

It was not easy. At that time, another escape had occurred. The inmates who had tried to leave had died. This was a state prison. It was just a matter of putting in the effort, courage, because you can lose your life in it.

That's what happened.

You were determined.

Yes, yes, because I had a whole life ahead of me to face in jail.

How old were you?

21 years old.

You are in a maximum security module.

Yes.

How long have you been in this module?

I arrived on June 5th.

So, two months ago.

I'm about to turn 13, barely. But, as I told you, I don't care. Even though I'm in the population, I don't care anymore. I'm not doing anything wrong. I already passed my sentence. In fact, I already passed it. But the judge can't let me go.

He says there's a suspension order. The claimant is suspended until the case is closed.

You say that the process is closed so that they determine that you have already fulfilled your sentences.

Yes, I am going free, exactly. But I am not going to go free because I am not sentenced yet, I am closed for the procedure. When I returned to Ponte Grande, I met a few more, like the one I did in the 40s for example.

The Z40?

The 40 is one of the new Z's. Treviño? Yes, that one. And others, I knew, but Larismedia, he came to the highland when they transferred me back. I was cutting my hair.

With the story you have, how do you make a living?

Well, I studied law and I plan to fight, behave, I have three important missions to do. Find my parents, find their graves, and honor them. The second, find my daughter.

And...

And I don't know, maybe I'll be a burden for her. I don't know, I don't want to be a burden. I want to better fight. And since I'm well, economically speaking, I mean, not well, but rather stable,

I'll go look for her.

And be her friend.

How are you going to look for her?

Well, they say that clue about the internet. In my time, cell phones didn't exist. Today, they say there's internet and I can look for it. I don't know, I don't have the slightest idea. But I have three things to do. To make my life better, to be happy in the name of my parents. To find my daughter and honor them in their graves. To know where they are buried.

I don't know that.

Do you think you're capable of living outside of jail? Yes, yes. When do We have to be very careful. We have to be very careful.

We have to be very careful. We have to be very careful. We have to be very careful.

We have to be very careful. We have to be very careful. ♪♪ It's a huge emotion. A lot of emotion and a lot of expectation.

Positive.

What expectations do you have?

Well, I have the need to... First, first, to thank God. For the cathedral. Second...

Do you want to go to the cathedral physically? Do you want to go physically to thank God?

Yes, physically, yes. Second, to go to the cathedral physically? Do you want to go physically to thank? Yes, physically. Secondly, I want to go visit my mother's grave, who never abandoned me while I was in prison. She died while you were in prison. Yes, I was in prison, just like my father. And they never let me go.

Although the situation was very hard, and they were against them, the judicial system and society, they stigmatized them very badly, and I have to go thank them and find them again. Thank you. My third goal in life is to start over.

What does it mean to start over?

Today you think about starting over. What does it mean to you to start over? I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a great opportunity to start over.

I think it's a great opportunity to start over. What does it mean to start over? Today you're thinking about starting over. What does it mean to you to start over?

I realized that not having anything, or having the basic essentials, especially in federal prisons, I learned that if you behave well, you have it. You receive it.

And when you don't behave well, you segregate and lose everything. So I learned to behave well to have the minimum essential. And that made me happy, it filled me. Because thanks to that I could see my parents, I could watch TV, I could live with people. So today I understand that rebuilding my life is learning to live

as the so-called community of people, with the basic essential that I managed to acquire with an honest job.

What is the minimum essential that you think anyone, because right now that you leave, you are going to face a world that has changed for 40 years. Technology, telephones, the world in which people are absorbing through technology are things that you don't know. After living in confinement, because in 1995 you escaped from this prison and you were re-arrested, you were in a maximum security model. After living more than 20 years in maximum security,

what do you think 32 years in maximum security. What do you think? 32 years. 32 years in maximum security. What does a person need to live as lightly as you say, with the minimum essential?

First, learn to live day to day. And also learn to enjoy the minimum you have. With being able to watch a television, I have a giant 50-inch television for the entire population of a single unit. So, being able to watch television, like everyone else, is wonderful.

You can enjoy it. When we are punished at a closed door, we just see people enjoying themselves, living together, laughing, and we can't do it, because we are not seeing what people are seeing.

So, being able to see that, the common denominator of people, is able to see that, what people call common, is the least essential that fills me. Being able to go down to the dining room, eat my food,

accompanied by third parties, also prisoners. Eating with them at a table is beautiful. And not being, excuse the expression, like a dog,

locked up in a room without even visibility. Grabbing the pieces of meat with your hand, because you can't go with a knife, much less. So, those minimal issues that are out there are very transcendental. That's the best.

Sure. People don't even consider them anymore.

They don't consider them. And you learn to value that, because it's the least essential for you. And it's so everyday out there that you don't realize how valuable it is, how beautiful,

what sets us apart from the animal. And also the simple fact of being a human being, of being a human being and being able to be integrated into society is a beautiful thing, that you learn to see it as such once you've lived through this nightmare.

When I was free before, and I had it all, I never thought that the simple fact of being free was a blessing from God, a very beautiful thing.

There are many people out there who don't believe in social reinsertion. There are many people out there who don't believe in second chances. What do you think about that?

Well, I could tell you the following. Maybe not to sound too trite, or to sound too false. We're not going to talk about social readaptation or social reinsertion. I want to talk to you about fear. I'm scared of this world. This world is scary. No matter how modern a prison is,

no matter how complete all the services are, the prison itself is scary. So, a question like this is horrible, and as such, the fact of having the opportunity to be free again, to not return here, more than reinsertion, let's call it, I'm scared. I wouldn't behave badly to return to this. It's not the same to make a mistake that will have me three months, five months, or a year in jail,

to make a mistake that will have me all my life. When one spends more than 20, 25 years in jail and realizes that everything is lost, in to the I don't exist for them anymore. And the only thing I have out there is sadness, but a lot of impetus. Because I asked God to give me the opportunity, I had the opportunity, with the education my parents gave me, to be an important person for the church. If I had participated in the issues that our priest raised, I would have been important for that church.

I was a young man, and I didn't. For X and Y reasons. I could have been a very important man for my mother and family, and I didn't. It was a nightmare. And I could have been a very important man for society itself,

and I didn't. But I'm not going to spend my life suffering and crying for what I didn't do it for the society itself. But I'm not going to spend my life suffering and crying about what I didn't do. Today, thank God, I have the opportunity to reintegrate into society. I'm going to be able to do something important for my church. Participate in the issues I set up, that's what I mean. Sing in the choir, etc. I'm going to be able to be a very important man for my family. I can still do it. I can't see it as something that's already over.

I can still be important and valuable to society. I have every opportunity. And thank God I'm healthy. I still have a certain energy for such effects. How many years ago did you not see your daughter? Since I was born. I lost her when I was six months old.

I lost her when I was seven. I lost her when I was eight. and I still have some energy to give her those effects.

How many years have you not seen your daughter?

Well, since I was born. She was six months old when I lost her.

And you never saw her again?

I never saw her again. She is now 39 years old, 38 years old. I don't know about her.

Do you think she knows about you?

I guess so, because she has my last name. I know you were the one who taught me that expectation also drives me to want to find her again. And the feeling is so great. So great that it can't be explained. I can imagine. I can imagine that it's a very particular feeling.

Besides, what did you tell yourself?

I told myself that I was going to find her again.

I told myself that I was going to find her again.

I told myself that I was going to find her again. the feeling is so great that it cannot be explained.

I imagine it's a very particular feeling. What did prison give you? What did you leave with? The Nuka Mendi who came here 40 years ago, what is left of that Nuka Mendi? And what did you get in prison and what do you leave with?

What do I have left of the Nuka Mendy que entró a la cárcel? Yo creo que tengo el empuje, la disposición y el entusiasmo para X o Y empresa. ¿Qué me enseñó la cárcel? Que el perder la soberanía e individualidad es terrible. Es terrible estar supeditado to other people's wills.

Because most people are not... ...properly positive people. And with one, like a PPL, which is what they call it, or rather, not vulgarly, but rather poorly, a PPL doesn't have the right to smile, doesn't have the right to make a comment,

when the officer, or before the custody, is in a bad mood. Until that is lost. And I also get a lot of terror. The prison taught me to live a terrible terror in terms of what is lost. I saw a lot of people who committed suicide.

I saw a lot of people who went crazy from drugs. I saw a lot of people who, also wanting to escape from justice, from the action of justice, lost their lives. Not one or two. Of the three aspects I mentioned, I saw many. And that scares me.

It scares me to lose a life, to have lived a life that was useless, that left me neither good nor bad in life. Better, only bad things. Better said, that's what I'm going through. And a great enthusiasm, a great push to...

to be able to say, I'm happy. I've never been able to say, I'm happy. I want to be happy. I've never been able to say I'm happy. I want to be happy.

Tell me about the opportunities for reintegration you had here.

Well, in the federal centers they give us a lot. In all of them? In most of the centers. Actually, in all of them. They give us the opportunity to have a job. They call it...

Lately, a few years ago, they call it... self... self... what? This... Well, it's self-employment. One dedicates himself to any craftsmanship. And as you practice, you become more specialized and do beautiful things.

In prison, there are great works made by the inmates. Do you want to say something about the academic issue?

Sorry? Do you want to say something about the academic issue as well? Yes, it's very important. Do you want to say something about the academic issue? Sorry? Do you want to say something about the academic issue as well?

Yes, it is very important, for example, in the patent system, when one sees the issue from a positive point of view, one learns more than to hurt oneself and others. One learns to compete with others in terms of progress. If I see that my partner, a sultan, won a national prize for writing poetry, for writing a play,

I want to win it next year. And so I also participate. And that is the positive competition that is learned in prison. If a partner does a job, a last supper, or a owl, and he looks beautiful,

you forge the desire to do it better. And for the next sales campaign, and generally it is achieved, it is an overcome that does not end. and for the next campaign, and it usually works. It's an endless process.

Did prison give you opportunities?

Yes, a lot of opportunities. When you see it from a positive point of view, it gives you a lot of opportunities. It's not just destruction, it's not just drug addiction, it's not just abandonment.

It's also a lot of pressure.

Are you afraid of what's going to happen? Are you afraid of what's going to happen today? Or of what's going to happen in the next few days?

I'm not afraid. I'm very uncertain. That's what I have, uncertainty. Very uncertain. Because of what my parents told me, because of what you told me a while ago, that I'm not going to know what society is.

I was a dog's paw, so to speak. I walked all over the city. I thought I was going to get lost, I'm not going to understand, I'm not going to know. And that scares me. And because of that, I'm afraid to interact with other people to be able to propose my projects and move forward.

My positive projects. The little I have left of life, I want to live it in peace. And that peace lies in being free and sovereign.

Is there social reinsertion?

Yes, yes, definitely yes. When one is positive and you adopt what you want to instill in the subject, the penitentiary authority, yes, it is possible. It is very valid.

Lucamendi, tell me, these are your things.

Yes, Lucía.

Tell me what are your things and what stays and what goes.

Well, my things are these basic products. Here is my toothbrush, my toothpaste. This is the one I store. This is the toothpaste that I use.

Do you have this in a liquid form?

Yes, it's water. For hygiene. For hygiene, it's water. For hygiene. This is your toothpaste. Yes, but this is the one that is in reserve. And this is the one that is used. It's a deodorant, but here it is kept fresh.

The toothpaste. Yes. This is a deodorant. Yes, this is really a deodorant. It's a cream for an infection that the institution gave me. And this is a real disorder. This is a cream for an infection that I have,

that the institution that provided me with, and this is my clothes and my toilet paper. My Bible, this is essential. My Bible is my companion and my light, my guide.

What is left? What is going to be left?

Well, everything is going to be left. What I would like to be able to take with me, although it is true that I have a place to go, I do not have to cover myself. And I understand that these blankets, although they are family, they are not from the center,

I will not be able to take them.

I asked the director for permission, if I could take them.

The director is very human, I imagine. Why do you want to take some blankets?

To cover myself. Today it's very cold, there's a cold front. I lived in Oaxaca and in Guadalajara for more than 25 years. The weather is already warm. And here it's terrible. I was born here in Mexico.

However, it's a terrible cold. Do here in Mexico, but it's terribly cold.

Do you have a place to sleep tonight?

Yes.

Who's coming for you?

My cousin. My cousin was born after I was hospitalized. But my cousin was a good friend of my father's, and he took him to the dialysis, the hemodialysis, and everywhere, both medically and socially, until he died.

And before he died, my father asked him to come for me. My cousin came for me, he saw me. And thanks to him, precisely, this re-insertion that I'm going to get is due, because he also helped a lot in this issue that has already crystallized today.

Okay, well, thank you, my friend.

Thank you, congratulationsolás. You're welcome, Felicia. Yes, yes. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So We are here to defend the rights of the people of the state of Guadalajara. We are here to defend the rights of the people of the state of Guadalajara. We are here to defend the rights of the people of the state of Guadalajara.

We are here to defend the rights of the people of the state of Guadalajara.

I wanted an emblematic person to come for the Barrientos prison, but also an emblematic person for a condition. So that if someone, after almost 40 years, 38. All his life, in a bunker. And today, God decided to go home. Today, the man is a free man. You're going to do it tomorrow. No one stays here.

I'm telling you that. So, cheer up, guys. I know that here, among the sentenced, there is the damn pessimism and thinking that there are no opportunities. You tell me if not.

Yes, the important thing, my colleagues, is that you see things with positivity and as much as you can, try to be healthy, do sports and have confidence in the future. It is achieved, it can be done. I am the proof of that.

Excuse me.

He's leaving and he's not coming back. No, no.

See you later, guys.

See you later. Thank you. We are here to help you. We are here to help you. We are here to help you. We are here to help you. We are here to help you.

We are here to help you. We are here to help you. We have been here for a few years and we don't know what's going to happen. We don't know what's going to happen until the next wave. But God is watching over us. We are very grateful to our family. I don't have any more words. I'm going to miss you.

I'm going to miss you. I'm going to miss you. But in the bad times, everything disappears We are who we are, and we are who we are Life is a moment that sometimes never comes back And while I die, I have a piece of my passion in my pocket I'll tell my mother that I'm going to be a little late to the world.

I'm going to sing a little bit of a song called La Cucaracha. It's a song about a girl who was born in

a small town in the middle of the country. She was to those we know have always been. In the good times, everyone gets up. In the bad times, everyone disappears. We are who we are, and we are who we are.

Life is a moment, sometimes it never comes back.

Thank you very much. Who is the singer? He's never coming back Thank you. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪

♪♪ Thank you. Thank you, Commander. See you later.

What a joy.

Happy, happy.

It's a wonderful thing. It's inexplicable.

What's next?

We'll fight for the future, but we'll keep the composure. We'll keep the corresponding rules. I fought for my future, but I kept my composure. I kept the...

the rules.

Of course. I'm on the street. Thank you. I can't believe it. I went out through the main door, the original door,

where I escaped.

It's wonderful. I can't believe it. Seeing cars is wonderful too. When I went to the hospital every half year to see my kidney system, I was happy to see the bridges, which are no longer stairs, they are ramps. Seeing the tortillerías, seeing the people in formation, all that is wonderful, as I said a little while ago,

they are human values so beautiful that you don't understand and value them until you see them lost. They are extraordinary, they are very valuable. And I have a new opportunity and thank God I came out still a little healthy. It's wonderful, Lisseta. It's like a dream, I still don't believe it.

I wish you a lot of success.

Thank you.

And whatever you need, you can count on us. And really, you don't need to look behind you. You don't need to look behind this place. And as we talked about it, you are another person.

Of course, I am not the same anymore. The man who entered this place died. A new one came out, and one full of motivation, enthusiasm, and positivity, especially positivity.

You have a great challenge, because for many, reintegration is an utopia. And you are the example that you can prove to Mexico

that reintegration does exist. The maximum I can do is to be in the system, because I try to find work in the system, and they will see it, probably, until the time I have to leave this human world. until the time I have to leave this human world.

Hopefully there is still a lot to do.