T-Pain Calls Out DJ Khaled, Talks Private Plane, Catalog, Family, Masked Singer & “Club Husband”

DJ Khaled, and everybody that told me I'm your brother.

Do not believe that shit.

Man, you know you're gonna get me in trouble, man. You're gonna get us in trouble.

What you mean I'm gonna get us in trouble?

All my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle paid the price. Want a slice, got the roll of dice. That's why all my life, I been grinding all my life, yeah ♪ ♪ All my life, been grinding all my life, sacrifice ♪ ♪ Hustle paid the price, wanna slice, got the roll of dice ♪

♪ That's why all my life, I been grinding all my life ♪ Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shae Shae. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shae Shae. Stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of the most influential rappers of all time. He's left an undeniable mark on the music industry. His career- Proprietor is crazy.

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hip hop icon, and an R&B legend. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, the Tallahassee Trailblazer and trendsetter, Mr. T-Pain himself.

Who sent you that? Is that you? Who sent you that? Now here's the thing, now usually it would be like a manager or something like that that would send you that. I haven't had a manager since 2018.

So I don't know who sent you all that I do a good did we do a good job?

You know, I'll take it. Oh, yeah

man, look We got a toast your success two decades since your original your debut album. Yes, sir. Rapper turn singer. Absolutely, bro

my guy Oh, that sounded so crazy. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Got a new single called Club Husband.

You said it right the first time. I got a new sangle.

A sangle?

Yeah.

That's how we do it down south, you got a new sangle.

Right, you said it right the first time.

I just wanna know one thing. Why the hell you got me sitting up on this zero turn tractor?

Because we club husbands, baby. You know what I'm saying? Like, the thing is, the thing is, these women ladies out here, they don't know that they need somebody that's gonna be able to sit up on this thing for hours.

Can we go to the club after we get off one of these?

I don't think we gonna get no play time. I was about to do this in the club. I literally, hey look, let me tell you something. We in Vegas. We in Vegas. I told the people at Sapphire, like hey I may be by here way early in the afternoon and with lights and cameras and everything like, whatever you want to do man. I didn't tell them who was coming through.

But they said we could have did this in the strip club. Should we just move this in the strip club?

What if that just cuts to the strip club right now? Lord, how emergency?

Damn, man.

Oh my God, no. Somebody gonna stop us from filming?

Nah. They would love the club.

What if this cuts to the strip club right now?

Nah, we could, we...

I got them on the line right now. I know I got them on the line right now.

Yeah, but see, me sitting up here, this brought back memories. Now, we didn't have no zero turn. They had my turn.

They didn't have no zero turn. No, no, no,ars had that zero turn. You gotta sometimes, you gotta sometimes,

you gotta have that zero turn, baby. Let's talk about the lyric from Club Husband. You said, tell that piece of ish, excuse you call a boyfriend, that he ain't gotta worry about coming back home.

Exactly.

Cause you done found what you been looking for all along.

Now I didn't-

That's how they set it off in the club now?

Now? Oh they're selling dreams in the club? Come on man, let me tell you something. You done did enough push-ups in your life. You figured out exactly how much talk it take to come out with wrinkly fingers in the club. Yeah, no, you didn't come out of the club with wrinkly fingers. Every now and then, I'm not trying to do nothing

that we ain't already been doing. I'm just saying, you know, maybe you need somebody more responsible.

Let me ask you this. From the time that you started going to the club to here we are, fast forward 20 years later, how much of the club scene actually changed? Oh, it changed a lot. Now you gotta keep in mind,

I started going to the club when I was 14 years old. Okay. Now I started going, now the club I was going to was called Perry's Lounge. Okay. Now I started going to Perry's Lounge when I was 14 years old

and this was a 35 and up club. What the hell you doing in there? Well, one, I was DJing. I was a DJ. They didn't have any other DJs, so I started DJing in there. And then I became a patron. And then I just kind of started,

just kind of easing into it, like, hey, y'all go and just let somebody else DJ in there. I'm going to the regular spot. And then I started getting on the dance floor. And then, yeah, one of my first performances was in Perry's Lounge. And again, it was a 35 and up club. I was 15 years old.

And that's just that, yeah, it wasn't, I wasn't supposed to be in there.

Right.

But also it was Tallahassee, so.

How did you, how did you, how did you clear that with your parents?

Parents? I don't know what them niggas was at.

Come on, come on, bae.

Hey look, I don't know what them niggas was at. Keep in mind, my mom worked in the daytime. As soon as she got off, my dad had to go to work. So they flip flopped. Both of them was living their life when the other one wasn't that working. So they're like passing trains in the night? Yeah so you know when I went to

the club it wasn't uh they didn't care I think they knew what I was doing but it wasn't nothing they can do to where they've been like oh I'm gonna get off of work and go fix it like you can't do nothing. Well they could tear your ass up and you wouldn't go. They didn't know. You know what I'm saying? So I can be like, you know, it was never on time.

So when I get back from the club,

they're like, did you go to that club?

And I can say no, and there was nothing they can prove about it.

But you smelled like cigarette and cognac.

It was all black and white. My dad found a, my dad found one of my Capri Sun, the little straw, the wrapper to the straws. He found one of those in the hallway in front of my door and he was like, what is this? You've been smoking them black and white? I was like, dad, that's a Capri Sun thing. He was like, don't let me find out you smoking black of mouths and like I think you already know we're all smoking. But when they found out you was making money. I don't think they cared. Really? I don't think they cared that I was making money. God damn it. Yeah. I don't think they cared that I was making money. I think they

cared more of how I was making money. Okay, because even before I was making one money with music I was selling wheat So it was it was like and I was selling the shake from the actual drug dealers So when the drug dealers when the wheat when the wheat dealers got done with what they were selling I would just buy Whatever was left in the in the bottom of the bag. Okay, and then all my friends was like, oh would just buy whatever was left in the bottom of the bag. Okay.

And then all my friends was like, oh, this is real wheat. No, it's just the worst part of the week that you ever wanted to have. So yeah, it wasn't that they wasn't paying attention. I think it was more so of, it was more so

that they, I wasn't dead. So you know what I mean? Right, you weren't getting in trouble, the police wasn't around, you weren't, you know, what about school? How was school? So was the school?

School was the worst. So, damn, you ain't do your homework and you was out? So with school, with, so okay, so with the law, we had like a little dip. There was always like this little puck up, puck up. You know what I mean?

Yeah, little speed bump.

A little puck up, puck up, but it wasn't a speed bump. But we knew that puck up, puck up, right at that point before our house, that was the end of the county sheriff's jurisdiction. So even if we got in trouble, every time my brother got in trouble,

he'd drag the police in the car, like the police hanging on the window, blah, blah, blah. If we know that we get past that,

pack up, pack up.

Yeah, you were good.

You can't do nothing. Every time, bro, we done had so many police in the front of our house, and my daddy came out every time like, let's pass our jurisdiction, buddy. What are y'all doing? You can't do nothing.

They can't do nothing. Every time, literally my brother done dragged the police in the car. I done dragged the police at all kind of places. I done shot drag the police at all kind of places. I didn't shot in the air I didn't we didn't did all kind of stuff that's against the law, but as long as we know we hit that

fuck up

They can't do nothing to us. So I know as far as the law goes my dad would come out and Say this is a patch of truth. Right? As far as school goes, I made it all the way to the last eight days of eighth grade and then after that I dropped out of school.

Your mom and dad didn't say anything about that?

Well, they had a part of it.

So, So, So,

so the last eight days of eighth grade, um, they, they, the school implemented a, uh, a dress code and they said that we all, all the men, boys had to tuck their shirts in. Okay. Um, that's not too extreme. It's not too extreme unless you're fat. Because now all the girls you like can see exactly the same thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm like, come on coach, I can't. Come on Payne. Payne, there's got to be more reason than a dress code. The coach said, if you don't tuck your shirt in,

we got to fail you.

Right.

And if you failed during the last exams, you got, what you gonna do? Coach, please, please, I got this one girl I like. If she'd find out how fat I am, I can't do it. Coach, please, please, coach. Tuck your shirt in, man. Coach, I can't do it. I can't do it.

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You didn't want to do that. Okay, when you dropped out of school.

I just like straight up couldn't do it. You know what I'm saying? Because like, come on coach. You know what I'm saying? Because one, it was the coach that was doing it the most. It was like, Oh, you know, when the basketball player, the basketball player, tuck the jerseys in, like, yeah, but they look dark as f**k too, my

n***a. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I get up and tuck your shirt in. So I tuck my shirt in, I can see, I can see I look like I work in a front office. I look like I work in a front office.

But what happened to the young lady that you liked when you dropped out? She probably wasn't as interested as she would have been had you stayed at school, pal. Yeah, she got on drugs. Oh Lord.

She coked out crazy. She coked out crazy. I wish it would have been a valiant effort. But the thing is, I was trying to just, it wasn't even just her, it was just my self-esteem. So I, I took my shirt in,

and I was like, nah, I'm not with this. And I pulled my shirt out. The dean came through, Mr. Nigel, take your shirt in.

I'm not gonna do it. Hold on, you told the principal no?

Yeah, in the hallway. I can't do it, I'm so sorry. Mr. Nigel, tuck your shirt in. I'm gonna tell you one more time. You got one more time. I'm so sorry.

I really wish I could tuck my shirt in. I can't do it. Mr. Nigel, tuck your shirt in. This is the last warning. That's the last warning then. Come on, whatever's gonna happen, just do it to me.

Bam, expelled. The last eight days of eighth grade, which means I had to repeat the eighth grade. I had to repeat that. My grades were good enough to go to high school, but in order for me to pass to high school, I would have

had to take the last exams in eighth grade. And since you got expelled, you couldn't get it. I got expelled because of my shirt. I would have had to repeat the eighth grade. And my dad was like, oh, they don't care about grades. They care about their image. You not going to school anymore. So my dad was like, you know what? I'm a homeschool you. And I got you.

And then my dad abruptly forgot that he said that. And he let me stay home for another year.

So you stayed at home with no schooling.

Yeah, he had no idea.

I mean, I'm sure he had an idea, but he was like,

oh, shit, I forgot I gotta go to work.

I gotta go to work.

I gotta go to work.

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has that always been prevalent? Or has it become more prevalent now, or was it more prevalent back then?

I think it's always been prevalent. It's always been a thing. I've been a big thief of other n****s. I think I've always been a big n****s thief. I think I've only gotten girls because of the had them already.

It was just, it just showed me that they was willing to be with some kind of, at least of the dirty kind. I was a dirty back then. But so it was.

I just tried to help me understand this. I paint, you see the lady walk in with a guy. They probably holding hands or she's walking right behind him, or she's walking right beside him. What goes through your mind, say, yeah, yeah, I want her. If my nails are remotely cleaner than this.

God!

God! God!

Follow that verse.

We all turn, we from Tallahassee, bro. This is what, this is what, it's a part of it. If I got any remotely better quality than this, if I smoke one less cigarette than this tonight, I can probably get as, I'm not, you know.

But Payne, Tallahassee small. There's a chance you're gonna bump into the man.

Oh no, we're gonna bump into all each other. And the crazy thing is like, just have it back by five.

Have you ever have you ever taken someone's lady and then later see that dude see you and her see him at another location? I done took somebody's girl, gave her back to the guy and then later on found out that that was the night that their child was conceived and it's like I'm matrix Lee dodged a bullet The hell going on in it. Yeah and had a baby

What the that creature we sure that a man absolutely we we already we took the fraternity. Yeah

damn pain We sure that ain't mine. Absolutely. We already took the paternity test. God! Damn, Payne! I'm telling you. Oh, it's been amazing.

That was just a test of fate.

What is it about taking something someone else already has as opposed to getting your own?

I don't think it's a thing. I think that's just the only option we had.

It wasn't like a thing that we were trying to do. You were trying to do it. You said you was actively seeking that out.

I think that's just the only option we had. I wasn't actively seeking it out. It's just always after. Well, if he found her, you could find your one.

No. No. Well, you let him do all the hard work.

Right, it's the seeking. The hiding, the hide and seek, the whole thing is the seeking. That's the hard way. You know what I'm saying? You wanna get past the seek.

Right. You know, so, you know, man, if she come out during the 20 count, oh my goodness, what else you want us to do? You know what I'm saying? You want 20 to not say anything?

Yeah, we all, hey, look, so, you know, I know you and dog was doing a, you know what,

yeah, no, oh, okay, okay. But are you asking for trouble if you bring your lady to the club?

No, absolutely not. Okay. I'm not asking for trouble with any of that because not only is it fair game, but.

If she does that, she wanted to go all them.

And to quote a great poet of our time, yo chose me. Thank you. I would suggest you just zoom on that. But I'm married now. And and and those days are behind me. Can you zoom on this dude?

But I'm married now.

Happily.

Happily, 22 years.

Damn.

And she in here right now.

Yes she is.

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and you tried to take somebody's girl. Well, here's the thing when I was in London I didn't try to take somebody's girl. This is another case of yo chose me. Now I was in London and we was just balling out as much as possible obviously we you know we this is my first time seeing a magnum grey goose bottle You did that but it's bigger than that it's the size of one of these mother it's like yeah But is that what you did is that to the floor though damn it take two people to board them like you know

I'm saying so we did that and then Obviously if you get one of those The people around you know what that they know you saw do you know what that cost? Yeah, you know what that cost? Oh, yeah, so Chick came over to you, you know

She was showing interest. I'm not gonna stop her. Um, you know I'm also married at this point, so I'm just like, hey, come have a drink. It's gonna take six to get you a drink, but please come have a drink. You know what I'm saying?

And she came and got a drink. Somebody outside of that section was not happy that she wanted a drink. And he came over and he did one of your classic moves.

He said,

eww. Eww. Eww. Eww.

He said, hey man,

eww.

Eww.

Eww.

What the f*** you want? Like we ain't did nothing to you n****. He didn't like that she was there. She didn't like that he was there.

What the?

They got, well, I guess we got into like a, from what I gathered in the moment, we got into a quarrel to where she wasn't with him anymore.

Oh, he was with her. She wasn't with him, but he was with her.

He was with her. He was definitely with her. He was, she wasn't with him, but he was with her. He was with her. I mean, he was definitely with her. And the worst thing that she could have done as a girl from the UK was been with a from the US.

American boy.

Yeah, you don't do that.

You don't do that.

You know how that work. Mm-hmm. They didn't like that. So, you know, I offered her a drink. So the worst thing that she can do was get her drink poured by all these American boys. Now I got the neck of the bottle, I got two of my homeboys on her back, we pouring her a drink, boom she having a good time,

she got she driving the boat, now the UK boys is like now we don't we don't want to do that and man it transpired from that dude came up he ate he'd you know not not to size you down but he's like he's like three of you damn y'all this thing was big excuse me nigga was big. You should have said, well, excuse me, ma'am, I'm sorry, you're gonna have to leave. No, no, this nigga was big. I mean, but he was that big, but they called him tiny. I find out, like, when somebody is big, somebody is big enough to be called tiny,

you don't fuck with them people. But, in my mind, I'm drunk enough to be like, we should fuck with me people but in my mind I'm drunk enough to be like we should fuck with these people So he come over and he says yo, what's going on and I'm like what he says yeah And I said

So he didn't like that apparently, but. You threw money in the man's face.

This was after he said, yo, you messing with my girl. And I'm like, your girl messing with me. Yo, she don't want to be with you. I said, you sure? Fah, threw money right in his right after the big stupid ass roll of money Bye. Oh, it was so it was so well managed

That it was it was a roll. It was like a sausage roll at first, but when it hit him in his face It's exploded everywhere everywhere. Oh my god. It was so great and then in that Explosion of money, I didn't see he had a glass in his hand. And then he came right across my homeboy's face

with the glass, pow! Oh God, blood, spit, guts, and ass all over the place.

I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

Damn! Yeah, I ran.

Um.

Hold up, you started this and you dipped?

I got the hell on, man. You ain't supposed to stay around for the, what the hell? Stay around for the action. You got the hell on. So yeah, I didn't know what the hell was going on, so I got the hell out of there.

I wanted to like back up and like assess the situation. Bro, do you know what it's like to have like 60 of like the size of you coming out of a club and just like pushing each other? But it's like, y'all remember that scene in the Matrix where all the agents were coming out?

Yeah, they kept coming.

It was that, but the size of you and they was pushing each other around. They're just like, get me out of this mother. And it's just like, nah, I'm either going to die right here or I got to just start punching in the air. I just started punching in the air. I hit like two.

We got our asses beat that night. But let me tell you something. We put up a great fight and- It wasn't enough of y'all though. No, we only had one, two, three, four, we had five with us.

And it was us against all of everybody that was in that club.

Because everybody else was from UK.

Correct, they were all from UK. But they were all giant, I think it had to be like a bodybuilding night or something like that. You know what I'm saying? There's no way that there wasn't like a bodybuilding night or something like it. You know what I'm saying? There's no way that there wasn't like a bodybuilding night. So I don't know what the was going on in that bitch, but we lost. We lost the fight.

Young Jock was there.

Yeah.

Young Jock was there.

He didn't help.

I don't know. I was off on the side and I was just, I hit two and I was like, I think we won, that's it, we won. And then I saw young jock security just, you know what, because I was fighting, I was doing, I think I was fighting the good fight.

And then I saw young jock security punch somebody. That person fell down on a car, just like they had a back down, like their fell down on a car, just like they had their back down, like their ass was on the ground, and they fell back on a car, and then young jock, security, his name is Neil, by the way, Neil, I'm calling you out right now.

Damn, you drive a switch?

This nigga, no, this nigga, knee this nigga in the face, he held onto the top of the face, he held on to the top of the car and just yeah and just like knee to the face and the back of his head went into the car and I was like okay we gotta stop. I think that's it bro, I think that's it. We did all the stuff we can do I think. We can't keep going, there's no way that anybody has

any fight left in them and Neil Neil was just like, who else? Who else?

I'm like, Neil, stop.

You did, I think we won.

We good.

I think you won.

I didn't win.

I hit two, one went into my, went into my goddamn, my knuckle and I was like, this shit hurt. I don't feel like doing that. So I'm good. I don't want to do it. It is it you doing anymore. We good bro. Let it go Niels like nah, this shit. I'm gonna beat all these fans. I'm like, well, I'm gonna be on other streets Yeah, and I'm gonna do how that workout for you. Yeah, Neil was me. I think this was part of Niels like just regular workout

regimen, it wasn't like a bro if you would have oh man this shit look like a part of like the boys have y'all seen you know I mean have y'all seen that shit like the boys like the bro it is this man's head was just in the grill of the car it was just it wasn't even on the grill of the car. It wasn't even on the grill of the car, it was on the side of the door. Neil punched this man, he was standing up, BAM! Neil punched him out, he fell down, BAM! And he slid down and then Neil just,

FIRE!

His knee went into his face, the back of this man's head went so far into the side of that f***ing cab. I was just like, That dude's dead, I think. He's gotta be. That dude died right then. I still don't know the status of that one guy, but that was the, for me, I was like, I think we, okay, we did too much, bro. We gotta stop. We over here with these people's shit.

You might not can go back over. Yeah. yeah I mean they haven't invited me since then that probably why a club husband you said I'm talking about talking about wedding rings and everything do you believe a man can find a wife in the club 100% now why don't you think that I got more questions than you got on that. Because I mean I ain't really I've never been a club guy so.

Yeah you have. Now let me let me ask you a question. I'm setting the thing for you.

Yeah.

You walk into a place and you say hey Shannon we're gonna we're gonna set it out for you right? You walk into the spot you hear a bunch of of music, and you're like, oh, God, here go another club. You walk into the spot, it's wood floors.

Yeah.

Oh, shit. Okay. All right. Wood floors. You step up to another wood floor. All right.

There you go.

Okay, wait a minute now.

Okay. He's stepping to a room that looked like it's about to be a club. Yeah, but guess what it is. What is it? It's a human door Hmm now You like okay Some cigars in there now some cigars in there now It's also one chick in there

Also smoking the same cigars that you want to smoke. You ain't gonna start that conversation. What's the first part of that conversation?

Well, I mean to be honest with you, Payne, I don't smoke cigars and I don't know if I've ever seen a woman that smokes cigars. Man, this thing, I can't. I ain't no club guy.

If a walk in here with a wood tip ready to go, you crumbling. You crumbling.

But, Payne, that's not my job. Normally, I'm going to be at the gym or the supermarket.

The gym?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

You want to do the it as hard as yours

You you I mean you want somebody that were I mean to work out you know you work out they work out you have a Lot of time you want opposite I? Thank you. I think you want to be BW I think you like BBW's and I think that you would be like, you know what this is this is nice Because let me tell you something. It's about to be cold and I want that

Mm-hmm. Okay, maybe one day one that actually look that a little cushion. I mean, I'm Let me tell you something Congratulations This ain't where it's at anymore. Congratulations on what you did.

But when you're cuddling up, it ain't about the cut, it's about the gut.

You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you, man.

I'm just saying. Shanna, I think you want the opposite, man. I think you want a little BBW. You know, you know, you want a little BBW, you know what I'm saying? A little short, little something. How tall are you?

Six two.

Six two? Oh man, you get a little five-four joint. It's over. It's a wrap. It's a little five-four BBW, little something, little short and stout head ass.

You know what I'm saying? You get a little, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you get a little five-fold. Here's my handle, here's my ass.

Little teapot.

You get a little,

you store it in stock, come on.

You get a little, here's my handle, here's my teapot, sit here, bro.

It's over. How long did it take you to propose? Three months.

I beg your pardon? I beg it.

Three months? So basically you knew?

Let me tell you something. When you see somebody that's as pretty as my wife,

Yeah?

You lock that down.

You lock her down.

Look, if I could have got pregnant.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha.

You wanted to get trapped.

Ha ha ha!

I'm about to lock this bitch. Yeah. If I could have got pregnant,

that's how you... So let me ask you a question. You meet. So where did you guys meet? Well, we met in Tallahassee.

So I was producing...

I thought you said you couldn't find nobody in Tallahassee. She didn't come from Tallahassee. Oh.

Ah ha ha ha!

Yeah!

So I was producing her sister.

OK.

I was producing her sister, and we had just finished her sister's album. And her sister was like, hey, come listen to my album, blah, blah, blah. Now, here's the gangster part. Yeah, this is the part. I've been waiting to go to a gangster part. We listened to her sister's album

They leave out the house. First of all, my house is in shambles. Yeah, my whole entire Studio is running off of a generator because my power is off because we didn't pay the bills Okay. All right. So now not only is she looking past that, she's looking past how awful my room smells. I haven't been taking showers, any of that. She walks out the room with all of her friends and her sisters, after listening to her sister's album,

she says, hey, don't nobody talk to him,

that's my husband, I'm gonna marry him.

That what she said? I didn't say, I'm gonna marry him. That's what she said? I didn't do shit. I didn't do nothing. Imagine me dropped out of school, and then she walk out the house and say, all right, nobody talk to him.

That's the weird thing now. I didn't say nothing to her in the place. She just saw what was happening. Now, that's when, you know, when people talk about like twin flames, getting married before and shit like that, like she said that she felt like there was something that was already there. And when

she saw me, she was like, there was something that she like needed to address that. And she told everybody when she got back in the car, hey, don't talk to him, that's my husband, boom, boom, boom. But it just so happened that it was her sister's birthday and the girl that she was in a group with that I was producing, it was her birthday as well.

Now, they were like, hey, we just finished the album, we're going to go to our house, or our apartment, and we're going to have a little party. So, all the girls got in the car, they went to the party, and all my guys, me and them, got in the car. So, when she got in the car, she was like, hey, don't nobody talk to him, that's my husband. This is what it is, right? And everybody was like, okay, we good.

I got in the car, I was like, hey, we about to all these.

I was like, for some reason,

all these wanna come with us and we about to all of them. Okay, we got this old crazy thing is I kept a I kept the camcorder on me. Yeah at all time Yes, I always had it on me. So I have the first night that we met on camera So I had to be the 90s cuz the camcorder was big in the 90s for the J out of JVC This is this early 2000. Yep

Here's early 2000, but you gotta think, even on that same tape, I had like, when Phil Mobb got signed, like when they got they chains. I had like, when I first did my first hook on that same tape, and then like right at the end of the tape, that was the first night that we fucked. It was just like, right at the end of the tape, that was the first night that we fucked on the thing. It was just like, damn! We had a lot going on in that one tape. It was a high eight.

So it was like 80 minutes.

We had a lot of space.

Hopefully you don't burn that tape. You don't want that falling around.

We don't know where it is. I hope my kids don't find it. They gonna catch hell at the end of that bitch. They gonna... So let me get this straight.

Because in Club Husband you say you ain't gotta buy, uh, gotta pay for drinks no more. But you also had a hit song say buy you a drink. So what damn?

That's what I'm saying. You ain't gotta pay for drinks no more.

Oh, she ain't got... You gonna buy them. So you ain't gotta pay for drinks no more. ♪ That's your job, you coming in. ♪ Cause I'm a buy you a drink. ♪

I brought it back, I brought it back, Santa.

Can I tell you something, Payne? Real talk, I've never. I'm not hearing this shit, I don't wanna hear it. Don't finish that thing, because I know what you're about to say and I refuse to believe it. I swear to God.

Unless she was with me. Like we go, like we are, we go to a restaurant and I'm buying a drink. But like go to a.

You ain't never been at the bar.

Never.

Never.

I've never, A, been at a restaurant and I'm by myself with my boys or I'm by myself, send that girl a drink. You know billionaires exist?

Yes.

You know some of them. I do. You know some of them.

I know a few. We have friends that are billionaires. Now we can't just, like, hey, while I'm at the bar, everybody drinks this free. You ain't never done that.

No, hell no. Hell to the no.

Shaq is gonna kill you.

Okay.

No.

I ain't never had, okay, you ain't never been at a Foot Locker and like,

hey, buy the little kid some shoes? No. You see, yeah, you're a dick, bro. Let me tell you, the most I've done. The most I've done. You're a dick, bro. You're a dick, bro. Oh my God. The best I've done, Payne.

What about this?

What about this, Payne?

Bro, I done bought shoes just because I was buying shoes

and I felt bad. What about this? What about this, Payne? Somebody a little short on the grocery money and I'm in line Yeah. Because you impatient. It's still serving you because you impatient.

Just.

But I feel bad. No, there has been a few moments that just been like, they'll get behind like old ladies. And then when it's time to pay, they're like, bam, here's the card. Bam, bow.

On the, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tap, tap, jump. Yeah, I do that, but you sound like you just want to leave.

Like, what?

Most of the time, I just do self-checkout.

Yeah.

No.

No.

You know what? And then, because you a big black boy. So it's going to take more time, because now they got to check everything you got.

Yeah, now.

You got to, and now you got nah. I just gave them a beep. Now you got to show this little white lady all your lube. And you got to show this little white lady. You got to show this little white lady you buying condoms. You can't just walk out of there with that stuff. You got to, why don't you just buy somebody else's shit and just say I'm buying some real

embarrassing shit, maybe we can we should walk out of here at the same time. No but I think the thing is like if you, but I think I feel that if I send somebody a drink they think something else comes along with that so I just never done it. That's literally what it's for. Oh no. What is it you not, how in the, okay of all, why are you in the club? Mainly because my boys, I would go, I mean, when we was in Denver, I would go,

I would go with them once every two, three months.

None of y'all want to ask at all.

I don't know what, I'm just saying me. Because I'm going home.

This is a safe ass, this is a safe ass.

If you don't want to answer in the club, man, you got to stay out of that. That's all I ain't been in a minute.

That's all that's you ain't been in a club in a minute. You know what? I haven't either. I haven't either. And that makes sense. Something something has happened to the club.

Okay. To where it's like, it's not beneficial to actually be there anymore. See? Now, now, I will say this, the younger generation, they do not want to drink anymore. Right. They don't want to smoke anymore. Well, mostly because they've been seeing documentaries about people getting drugged and shit and getting taken.

Like, don't put out the Jeffrey Dahmer shit and then think that people are just going to be drinking all the time.

Like, Don't do

that. That's not, that's never gonna be a thing. That's just stupid as hell. But you know, I don't, but when you go to the club, you can't hide though. No. You can't hide. You're seven feet tall. How about this, is it true you didn't make any money from buying you a drink? I made some money from buy you a drink. Buy you a drink. You made some money, but not the money you should've made

or could've made?

I made some money because I was paying homage. Okay. And I thought that paying homage would've been cool, which it was at first. So when I did, I'm gonna buy you a drink, then I'm gonna take you home with me, I got money in

the bank. As soon as I said money in the bank, that's when Lil Scrappy came in and was like, okay. He said a line from my song, cause Lil Scrappy had the song at the time, I got money in the bank, shawty what you think about that I'll be in a great guy like we in a bit so at the beginning of the song when I say it's not be famous do you stay yeah that's look you can do it all right little John came in like well since this song is doing well I don't mind ever do headass so you know no it

was one of them things that was like, I thought I was paying homage. And then the people that could take advantage of it, they take advantage of it. So but but the thing was, they take advantage of the publishing and the master of it. So while they were making eight cents every three months, I was making hundred grand a night off of performing it like I'm like okay whatever you want be greedy but you're not gonna get what I'm doing so do you think I mean it still loves all the all of them and I don't

think it was them either I don't think it was a little scrappy doing it and I don't think it was a little John doing it obviously is their publishing companies right that were coming for this stuff and Lil Jon probably still don't know that we went through that whole other thing. You know, it was a moment in life that I was like, oh, this is how I thank my brothers. Everybody that had been calling me their brother and everybody that had been saying all this, maybe it's not.

But I understand now as a grown-up that maybe it wasn't them and you know nobody's ever said anything to me. I've seen Scrappy numerous times. I've seen Lil Jon a thousand times and nobody's like ever brought it up. Was that a very hard lesson for you to learn? No, not really. It was only a lesson for me to learn to where I was like, oh, they're not taking all the money from this record.

They're taking the publishing and the masters from it, but I'm always going to make money from doing that record. And there's nothing that anybody can do to stop me from making the auxiliary money from that record. So it's not going to be a publishing or a master's thing. When I perform that song, you can't take any of that money. You know what I'm saying?

And you don't know how, not only do you not know how much I'm charging for that song, but I mean, if you knew how much I was getting off that song but I mean if you knew how much I was how much I was getting off of that song 20 years after you try to take the money from it you'd get the shit out of your dick.

Club husband it blew up on tick-tock mm-hmm but it's three years it's been so long it's been a while you released it. It's like two or three years Yeah I mean were you surprised like damn? Oh, I released this song two three years ago, and I was blowing up. I hated it

You hate it. I hate that was the worst Can you imagine bro, can you imagine like Can you imagine, bro, can you imagine, like, trying to put it in terms that you can understand. Can you imagine a chick so hard?

Damn!

That what?

You're giving too many sports terms.

I just.

What about if I, I score, I score.

I know sports enough to know this.

I know.

I know.

I know.

Imagine a chick so hard, and you put***ing, you put all your hip into

it.

All, both replacements. You put, you put, you put everything into it. Yeah. And she was just like, all right, good stuff. See you, see you next time. And then she don't call you back.

Oh, she ghost you. And then two years later you hear from somebody else. Hey, you're not chickie like You said that was the best time she ever had. It's one of those. Oh Yeah, yeah, that hurt not hurt. Why do you say it? Yes. Why didn't you say it? You should have said that being you know, I'm as I put into that and into making sure you had a good time and you didn't say nothing and now you want to you want to have the good time hey by the way she says she wanna she want to

get back up with you and do it all again no no I don't know no I'm okay you know I'm moved on so you know so is that a new way is that a new way because I see a lot of times songs are becoming popular on TikTok before they become popular mainstream. Is that kind of how Spain going, Payne?

I hope not, man.

I hope not, bro.

It takes so much time to make these songs and do all this stuff and actually put time and work into this shit and then if somebody just post it on TikTok, it get more famous than... shit and then if somebody just posted on TikTok it get more famous then because keep in mind the reason that it got famous on TikTok was because I was making it on my stream. Right. But I was playing the acapella in order to make a dubstep version of it because I gave up on trying to release the regular version.

You know what I'm saying? So when I gave up on making the regular version a thing, that's when it popped. And it wasn't like a, it wasn't like a extended version or anything like that. And then, and then, and then, oh my god, then the person that leaked it came on my stream weeks later and was like, Hey, you need to put me on your team. Cause apparently I'm really good at reviving your career and I can make you money. That man said that on your screen, this nigga said, Hey, I stole your shit and

made money off of it, so you need to give me money now. What? I stole your shit and made money off of it. So you need to give me money now What So now hey, I'm really good at knowing when you need to be good at stuff So I just steal the content that you're doing and I'll put that content out and that's gonna make me money So you need to give me money for doing that Wow

Popping out that sauce into a bitch and then she don't say nothing. Can we get sport? You don't know anything about sports How does it feel to you? Because there's this young Chopin skewered. Dre and Michelle did a, I think she did a feed.

There's a bunch.

Yeah, because Jalen Greene thought it was a new song. Right, yeah. But obviously when you made that song, he probably was a couple of months old. So you must understand. But now you got a new generation that's discovering.

Right, exactly. Now imagine...

Yes.

Pumping all that sauce into a dish.

Lord have mercy! I did catch a bunch of touchdowns, playa. Playa, I catch a bunch of touchdowns. I caught a bunch of touchdowns. You're supposed to. I scored a bunch of points in high school basketball. Nope, it was just the one video. Nope, you did nothing else the whole beginning of your life.

Damn.

It was just the one video.

That's it. That's it. That's it. Now imagine all that shit you did, all them passes, all that shit, but it's just like, oh, Shannon from the video? Yeah.

That's how you know unfortunately some people.

Does it, yeah.

You see what I'm saying?

Oh, you talking about Shannon with the pants? Yeah, okay, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Not the, nope, not the whole career, nope. Just the pants.

Just the... Just the...

You know it's the 20th anniversary. Yeah, yeah. Rap or turn singer.

Oh my God.

What have you learned about this business in 20 years?

Nobody is your brother.

Nobody.

Come on, Payne, don't do that.

Nobody.

Payne, because I hear it all the time. That's my brother.

I hear it, Payne. You have seen so many dicks in that locker room.

None of them is your brother.

Come on, Payne.

Nobody is your brother. Everybody's your brother while they can use you. Everybody. Everybody is your brother while they can use you. Nobody is your f***ing brother. That is the quickest and the most consistent thing that I've learned through this whole thing.

You had to learn that the hard way? No, no. Everybody, everybody. And you know what? It's only n****s that say you my brother.

That I'm telling, just like that.

Yeah, because you wouldn't allow somebody that didn't say that to get close to you.

Yeah, you would.

Yeah, you would. I'd rather you tell me what the business was and not have the brother aspect in there and just say hey look Here's what I want to do. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do a hook We're gonna I'm gonna put a verse on this shit. We're gonna make a bunch of money I'm gonna we're gonna separate for a little bit and I'm come back when I need you again. Let's do it again

But I'd rather know the plan than to say you my brother you my brother you my brother. No, but we always gonna be together We're gonna never we're gonna never separate anytime. You need me. I'm here for you anytime you need me bum bum bum But but nah, bro, it's that brother shit Nobody is your brother. I've had DJ Khaled Everybody then told me I'm your brother. Do not believe that shit.

Lord have mercy, King.

That is the, that is the.

Man, you know you gonna get me in trouble, man.

You gonna get us in trouble.

What you mean I got, I'll get us in trouble.

All that, but I mean, but no, I mean, when I say shit like DJ Khaled, it's very apparent. Yeah, like DJ Kelly knows how to move. He knows how to, you know, get things with different people and shit like that. But it's like, it's not it's not it's not a DJ Khaled type of thing. That's just the first person I can think of. But we're talking about so many people, because

you got to think of how many people I've helped throughout their career Everybody is like, oh my god. Thank you so much You're my brother and it's just so much of that back-to-back back-to-back back-to-back. You're my brother. You're my brother You're my brother. You're my brother and then none of that shit was reciprocated. None of that shit came back. None of that shit meant anything when people start, when people tell you how much they can mean to you in return, that's the shit you gravitate towards.

Damn.

When, when there's people on your team, and sometimes, like, I love telling people that they're about to get a raise. You know what I mean? So I love going to my team and like,

hey, I'm about to get your raise. And when somebody says, thank you, man. I appreciate it. It's like, okay, this is probably gonna be your last raise. But when I go to somebody and I say, yo, you about to get a raise, and they say,

can I, is there something I, can I do more work? Like, can I, is there, can you like, also raise like my responsibilities or something? Them the people you keep around. You feel what I'm saying? Them the people you keep around.

You know, and when you do something so astronomical as to building somebody's career, and they just say, yo, you my brother bro, bop, gang, never gonna see you again.

But-

Yeah.

And then it's like, when you do something astronomical, like bro, you built my career up

There has to be something I can do right

That's the people you keep around with you. Have you heard the story about the uh, the lady in the Python?

This lady had a 10-foot Python and the Python stopped eating

Mmm month goes by two months goes by he wouldn't sleep in his pain. It wouldn't sleep in his pan It's only wanted to sleep next to her. Two months, but it wouldn't eat. She takes it to the vet. She said, I don't know what's wrong. I don't know what's wrong with the snake. It won't eat anymore. She said, wait a minute. How long has it not eaten? Like two, three months? Say, does it want to just sleep next to you? Yeah. Say, there's nothing wrong with this snake. Say, that snake is sizing you up. It's going to eat you.

It's going to eat you.

It's just getting close to you. Let you, let you, let you let your guard down.

I knew where that was going. It's going to eat you.

You see what happened?

Absolutely.

And there are times-

Let your guard down. I just, you know, there have been times where I've not been like a great friend to people and shit like that, but I didn't like, I had no idea. I thought I was doing everything that all the artists were supposed to be doing. You know, when I'm getting gifts from the guys and then come to find out it's just like all the shit they got from the Grammy gift room and shit. You just go through the line and just like,

oh, you got a watch? Yeah, hey, nigga, I got you a watch.

You didn't buy it, somebody gifted you that. Somebody re-gifted. You re-gifted.

Exactly, so. Damn.

You know, it's a little shit like that, man. And it's, you know, again, and you see, you come to find out that they're moving funny, they're moving sideways. How do you remove yourself without making it so obvious that you've removed yourself?

You make it obvious. You make it very, very, very, very fucking obvious. You make it very obvious, because it's like.

So you wanted to know that you don't F with him no more. Yeah, you have to. And that's the only way you're gonna remove it because if you lead him on, they're gonna keep calling you like, hey, you available this week?

No, no I'm not.

I'm available.

No the fuck, I am not available this week. Wait, did you think, you think we was gonna start working again? I mean, you my brother. No we're not, no we're not, I am not. No, so it's like, you know, things like that, you have to, I've learned as I've grown up and as I've come to, you know,

because like when you start hitting in your 40s, you start losing a lot of friends. And it's not because of you becoming, you know, antisocial or anything like that, And it's not because of you becoming, you know, anti-social or anything like that. It's because it's like, oh, can we agree that we've never really been friends?

We can be grown up about this, that we've never really been friends at all.

Other than being artists, we really have nothing in common.

That's it. And it's just like, now that we're, bro, we're both in our forties. We have nothing to, like...

You at the age now, Pay, you get to choose your friend. It's not like we're at elementary school, junior high, high school.

We can both agree that we have nothing in common, and none of us are, has an advantage from us saying that we're friends at all. We don't, there's no like nothing game There's no me featuring you that's gonna rock the airwaves like we're good. We just stop saying that we cool, right? You know like Man, there was so many there's so many people there were people

When I was doing like when I was doing, when I was heavy in features.

Yeah. Oh, you the feature king.

I was the feature king. I was the feature king. When people started me doing features, there were bigger artists that were like, I don't want to be in the video with him. I know he's like, you need him as a feature,

but can we not have him in the video with me at the same time?

What?

Like there were so many, bro.

So hold on, so let me get this.

That happened so many times. You want me on the feature, but you don't want me in the video.

Correct.

Just in case the thing that I was doing was a gimmick and they can separate themselves from me later on. Which in turn was smart, which in turn was smart, but it didn't work out their way.

Now they try to circle back. I mean, now I'm here with you.

Yeah.

So it turned into a safety net that ended up being a mosquito net. You know what I'm saying? It kept them from sucking my blood. You know what I'm saying? And I saw from the beginning that nobody needed to be around me anyways. And I'm totally fine with that. And the thing is that most of these make their identities

kind of reliant on being around a bunch of.

I make my identity on, it's just me and my wife. Yeah.

And here you go.

I don't know.

Yeah.

After she, after she see this, I don't know. She might say, she might 22 years. I know y'all been together 22 years.

Again, she hollered at me first.

She said you was the one.

She bought into it. I didn't do it.

Payne, let me ask you, what made you sell your catalog?

What made me sell my catalog? The amount of money that they gave me for my catalog, the amount of money that they gave me for my catalog, it literally would have took me a hundred years to make that money. I calculated it and I was like, why would I sell y'all this? Why would I say and they were like, look, here's how much you're making per year off of this. We're going to give you a hundred years worth of money right here all at once.

Okay.

Yeah, I didn't think that was a hard thing to say. Did you discuss it with your wife? Did you like, hey, check this out. This company came to me, this venture capitalist, or this board of courting, whatever.

Yeah, I discussed it with my wife.

She said, why you ask me that question? You know damn well you supposed to have said yes on the spot. I said, hey, babe. OK, you come in and say, hey, babe, take this out. I got a deal. I don't know. I might refuse it. I might not.

You talk to the kids today. Kids going to school.

Yeah.

She say, yeah.

I was like, did you, you know, everybody good? Like, I gotta talk to you about something that's real important about our future.

Okay.

And then, she's like, okay, cool, you know, cool shit. I was like, can I close the door? Cause I don't want, you know, I don't want the rest of the house to hear

and shit like that.

She was like, yeah, you know, just like, what the fuck is going on?

Like, just tell me.

So I closed the door.

K-Kloom. We're rich! We're rich!

We're rich!

We're gonna have 100 million dollars for the rest of our lives. We're rich! We got 100 million dollars. You know who Elon Musk is?

That nigga.

Oh my God.

Baby, baby, Mark Zuckerberg just invited us to his boat.

We rich.

Damn!

We rich.

We so rich.

So, so, so hold up. You tell me that. You say, baby, we rich, beyond rich. I mean, whatever you thought about when we got together, my career was taking off, whatever you thought I was gonna be.

Here's what made us beyond rich. Here's what the we rich, beyond rich. So Harborview, the people I sold my catalog to, they didn't just say, we want your catalog. They said, we'll buy your catalog. They said, we'll buy your catalog. But also, if you make another hit, we want that too.

If you make more songs, we want them too. If you make a hit TV series, we want that too.

Damn!

If you make a football league that just nobody even thought of, we want that too. If you, if we are scoring movies, if you score a movie, we want that too.

So it's not just at. So basically whatever you do,

that you can possibly monetize it. It's not at just what they got. So I can, I'd sold them what I sold them. But also if I, if I'd say, this one's doing pretty good too. They like, we want that too.

Here's another.

Damn.

You know what I'm saying? So it's a partnership now.

Yeah.

It's not, and that's a thing that Harvey View does. Like, when they go in, when they go in with somebody, they don't go in like, give us your shit, you're our Michael Jackson now.

And that's it.

It's like, we, look, we want to go into a partnership with you, so if you decide, if I decide that Clubhouse is doing good enough, how much y'all give me for the Clubhouse? Now you can put it anywhere you want to. Now you can put it on movies and you can make

the rest of the money off of it, but the money it would have taken me 100 years to make off a club husband. You get that. Boom. Even if it's 20X, that's 20 years. The money it would take me to, the time it would take me to make 20 years worth of money off a club husband, I can get a 20X from there. The time it would take me to just sell a beat or dubstep.

If I make an intro to your show, and they say, we want the rights to that, take it. How much money is Shannon Sarve's show gonna make for the next 20 years? How much stake do I have in that from the intro? Boom, give me that money.

It was, in other words, it was a no-brainer. One of the first, okay, you got this money, you're wealthy beyond, even when you dreamed at night. My brother used to tell me all the time, he'd say, a dream is a gift you give to yourself. So you dreaming at night, what's the first thing you bought? When you got this money, you're like,

baby, what you want? Baby, whatever you want!

Denny's house.

Denny's house.

It's not, it's not, it's not. No, no, no. So, about um about a uh 50, 000 square foot building for all my businesses.

Okay, okay. So, I'll I'll go after you. A 50, 000 square foot. I thought you was about to say a house. I said, you

high. No. No, no, no. 50, 000 square foot, I thought you was about to say a house. I said, you high? No, no, no, no. 50,000 square foot building for all my businesses.

OK.

About a plane.

A plane?

Yeah, a plane.

Oh, big baller.

What the?

What in God's name would you do with that money?

Get two lawnmowers?

What the f***?

What the f***?

I would, I probably would buy timeshares in a plane. I don't know if I would want to take a plane.

Oh, timeshare?

Okay.

Yeah.

No.

I would abruptly buy two lawnmowers and a Ferrari. So what did you, okay,

you bought a building, you bought a plane, what did she want for herself? Some black shirts.

She wanted, my wife is the best, bro.

She don't want anything.

I'd literally try to buy her shit.

She seems so down to earth.

I don't know if she's down to earth or she's-

You don't know if she's down to earth. You been with her for damn near 25 years. You see the niggas she picked?

Like this-

Yes, yes.

Yeah, that wasn't a smart choice.

Yeah.

It's true. It's true.

It's true.

It's true. Good job. You know what I'm saying? I be trying to buy her shit all the time. I've thought about her trucks and she's like, a truck, trucks, like trucks. And she's like, all right, let's go. It's like, I'm just gonna ride with you everywhere you go. I'm not gonna drive that. I'm like, okay, thank you. But it's a truck, thank you.

You started off DJing at the age of 14, probably making what, $50, $100 a night DJing, $200?

Money, I was getting paid.

Oh, you were doing it for free? Yeah, I was carrying crates. Okay.

At 14, 15, I was carrying crates. Okay. At 14, 15, I was carrying crates, because keep in mind, I couldn't go into clubs unless I had a job. Right. So I was carrying crates for DJs,

and I was hearing... The reason that I can make the songs the way that I make is because I was hearing the songs that DJs were playing from the crates

that I was carrying. Right. And I was like, man, people really like these parts of songs. What the f*** is making people go so crazy? Okay.

So every night I would literally write down like, all right, the hi-hats going from this

song.

Yeah. All right, they like this part. Okay, there's no kick on this part. All right, well, he just said something real loud on this part. I don't know what the fuck he said. And so I started studying why people like parts of songs that they like.

And then I went back in my career and I was like, I think I'm going to try to make a song. Damn. And I'm gonna incorporate all these things that people have seemingly been liking from these things that I've been seeing. So kind of just like, yeah, it's making a song from a DJ's perspective is.

Cause you know what hit, you know what's in it. Like you said, you were in the club.

I know what hits. I know what, like, you know, an 808 hits on this part and people love that shit. There's no 808 on this part and people scream this shit to the top of their lungs. There's no hi-hat on this part. There's no snare on this part. The boom-boom-boom, so I started incorporating those things into my songs and it's like I think I know how to make a song. Yeah. I tried one and boom. Yeah, it just happened.

Early in your career you bought a Bugatti 1.7 million, you bought a chain 400,000 said big-ass chain, now you got little-ass chain, now you got little ass chain. Now you say, hey, Frank Richard Mille from T-Move.

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When I bought that Bugatti, that was the last bit of my money and I had no idea. I had no idea. You didn't know that was the last bit of your money

or you had no idea that?

I had no idea that was the last bit of your money or you had no idea that? I had no idea that was the last bit of my money. When I bought that Bugatti I demanded that my accountants Send the money for that Bugatti and When I got it, they were like hey, so we may have to sell your house. I'm like You talking about I have a Bugatti. They were like, yeah, that was what we were going to use to pay for the rest of your house. I'm like, my house is paid for.

And they're like, uh, yeah, not anymore. So we had to take out something for your thing and then we bought the Bugatti. So then the Bugatti disappeared and shit like that. But it was never like, I was never secure because I never knew what the hell was going on with my finances. I mean, now I'm very, very, very, very close to my finances and I know every dollar that goes out,

like I'm telling you, if somebody tries to send $4 from one of my accounts, I get an alert on my phone. You know what I mean? Like I stay very close to my finances and shit like that. But back then, I had no idea what was happening. I had no idea.

I had so much money that it was just like, why would I care? Wow. I don't care who steals from me. I should still have enough. You know what but that's what was happening. People were actually oh, yeah, they were actually still there

They were actually selling but also I was investing in weird stuff. My my granddad said he had a And it sounds stupid now My granddad said he had an idea We're gonna sell... What are you selling? You know how, you know how n****s sag their drawers all the time. Yeah. We gonna sell pants with the drawers already sagged.

You gonna sell pants with the drawers hanging out of them already and then the waistband of the drawers is the actual waistband of the pants. Absolutely. How much money you need? That shit sounds amazing. You know what?

Spent $150,000 on that. I didn't have it, but I gave it to him. Guess what? You can pull it up right now. Balenciaga is literally selling pants with drawers

hanging out the,

copyright, you got a patent?

Hell no, man. He never did it. He never made them. He never did it. Damn, man. But I was supposed to just know that that was gonna happen.

But right now, I swear to God, Balenciaga is selling pants with drawers

as research department. We're having to-

Yeah, yeah, yeah, pull it up.

That's what that, yeah. Now you're on time. Yeah, yeah, pull it up. That's what that is.

Now you're on Twitch.

Oh, boy.

So are you more active on Twitch than making music? I mean, so how does Twitch work?

I'm making music on Twitch. I'm making all my music on Twitch.

So people can see it in real time.

In real time. I'm literally, everything that I do now, every single that I release, everything that happens right now, I can, you can clock it from me making the first sound to putting it out.

Like all the way from me making the first sound of the beat, making the whole beat, recording the vocals, and then putting it out. I can show you the entire process on Twitch. And it's been not only a liberating thing for me, but it's turned into an eye opener to the viewers for other artists because they're like, y'all ain't doing the process like pain. You know what I'm saying? So it's not a flex, but it's like,

if your favorite artist ain't doing the whole process, then who y'all watching this for? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so it's turned into a, look, you can literally watch this song develop from the first sound of the beat to the release of the song. And that can't... There's no other place that you can

watch that happen within a week's span. You know what I'm saying? So within seven days, you can see this thing happen. I will stream every part of me making this. And I have like a two-step process. Like I got a drunk T-Pain and sober T-Pain. So drunk T-Pain will come in and start to be, make the song and shit like that.

And then sober T-Pain will come in the next day and like, what did this do last night? You know what I mean? I don't remember. None of that shit and then I fix it and then I finish it to where the song can come out.

Right.

So it's like you get these different aspects of how my process works and there's n****s that like come to my house and like I don't want people to see me recording my verse. Right. And it's like you don't even want like damn right we're just we just writing verses and just recording they like nah I don't want it I'm showing you start to finish. You showing everything. I just I have to because I don't have the and a

big part of it is I don't have a hidden aspect to my process. Because a lot of that come to the crib, they like, they got these other writers, or they got these other producers, and they got people, they got secret that come in

on the side and do all this extra shit. I'm like, bro, it's been, it's literally me in the studio.

What they see on Twitch is what it actually happens.

Exactly what it is. It's me in the studio by myself the whole time doing this shit. And sometimes my wife would come in, she'll write the shit with me. But my kids would come in, they'll write shit with me. But it's like, it ain't no secret.

There ain't no extra writers coming in. Ain't no extra coming off the street shit like that. Like, it ain't never going gonna be that. You know what I'm saying? So I mean that's my favorite part of the shit. The fun part is getting drunk as shit one night, coming in the next morning and still streaming like, let me see what this b**** did. But the b**** is me. So like let me see what he did and I hear it and I'm like, oh shit, that n***a had a little idea last night. Let me see what he did and I hear and I'm like, oh shit I think I had a little idea last night Let me see what's going on and then I and then I finished that idea and then the song actually comes out

And but it's but you can see that it's me the entire time, right? So it's uh It's not only liberating man. It actually shows people that not everything is fake. You know, I was you know, I Don't know how you felt but ever since like Milly Vanilli Everybody's been like everything especially not with AI. Everything's fake. It's specially not with AI Everything's fake

Everything's fake. This is a game do that. I don't believe it. Even if I see you do it

I don't believe it. It's just it's not it's not a real thing You know, then so couple years ago pain we had you on nightcap and I asked I said I say pain with your voice You can really really effin sing. I don't know if there's a rapper dead or alive Mm-hmm that can match vocals with you. I say why you use autotunes? It literally just set

me apart. It was just something that set me apart. Do you know, there's not a lot of people in this world that have heard Roger Troutman's actual singing voice. He's the first one. And that boy can sing. That boy can sing his ass off but He did that to set himself apart because if you just gonna sing just gonna be another singer Yeah, like why why put yourself in that category when you have the opportunity to set yourself apart from everybody and You know it comes with this it comes with its

Stimulations and it comes with its...

Won't you do a pivot? Won't you do... I did, I did! No, I'm talking about now, really right now. Like Beyonce, Beyonce had her genre. She said, you know what? Country what I'm gonna do. And put an album out.

Okay, you rap, and I do it R&B.

Well, let's keep in mind that country's always been a part of Beyonce's repertoire. Okay. Country's always been a part of Beyonce's repertoire. You know what I'm saying? Beyonce's always been able to do country. All her harmonies and all the things that Destiny's Child did and things like that, that's always been country music. That's always been blues. And country music came from blues and blues came from country and you know everybody can you know have their allegations

about that but this has always been a thing. It's about tempo, it's about rhythmic vocals and things like that that made it quote unquote country but it's always been that and that's something that we are always able to do. Rhythm and blues. Yes. Is what R&B is.

Yes.

Blues.

Yes.

Blues is country.

Yeah.

Country is like we've always been in this space. Bum, my mama done told me, ba ba ga ba. Step it up, da da, ka bum, boom, bam. Step it up, ba ba da, ba da, ba ba ba, ba ba ba, ba ba ba, We call that blues, but that's where country came from. So we can do that. That's always been ours.

You know what I'm saying? So we just kind of went back to our roots on that and Beyonce was always the queen of that. So it's never going to be a thing to where it's like a pivot for us. It's just, just kinda doing what we were already doing.

You know what I mean? Like when I did On Top of the Covers, when I did my cover album, and I was singing, singing,

singing. Oh yeah, yeah, so you, did people really know you could sing like that before they heard you do all the covers?

Not at all. not at all, not at all. I don't think so. There was a core audience that had a suspicion, but I never really felt like I needed to prove anything.

Yeah.

So when I went into that, when I went into that On Top Of The Covers, and I did the, when I did the Sun Rose in LA, it was kind of a, it was, I didn't prove a point, but it was just like a, see?

It was like a.

No, I can really see. It was like a, right, you know what I'm saying? It was kind of like that, but it wasn't like a, I'm here to prove a point kind of thing. It's just like, let's get together for a night of good vibes and I'm going to do the thing that we all know that we going to do.

And then we sold out three nights and two minutes. Wow.

You know what I mean?

So it was-

Is that something you're looking to do again?

I do want to do a part two of it. I do want to do them. You want the audience to pick them? Yeah, because the first version of it was songs that meant a lot to my heart. And now I want to know what people think that I should be kind of taking a stab at.

Who haven't you worked with that you would like to do something with? Andre 3000. Good luck with that one.

Yeah.

I would literally learn how to play a woodwind to work with this finger. I bought a flute and a saxophone from T-Move. Almost got it. Almost got it. If J came to you and said, hey bro, halftime show? Nah. That's too much pressure. It's too much pressure. That's a, that's a, cause you gotta think, nah, it's a great honor. It would be an amazing honor.

But you gotta think about me trying to squeeze 20 years of absolute hit records in 15 minutes. You can't do it. I'm just not. I'm not gonna be the one that be ... Remember when Justin Timberlake did it? And that whole 15 minutes was like, oh shit, I forgot about that. Oh shit, what?

That was his?

Oh, goddamn Pharre, oh shit, I forgot about that. Oh shit, what? That was his?

Oh, goddamn, Pharrell. God, shit. God, I don't want that. I don't want the head snatch of, damn, I forgot he did all that shit. Just let me live that out.

Also, I don't own that shit anymore, so just.

No.

Ah!

I sold it,'t have it. You know, I mean you also I'm gonna get you out here a few more. Yeah, you said that you stop You write songs But we were writing song for people that their fan base didn't know you were actually writing and was getting upset You say you know what you go and give me the brief. Y'all got to put me on there. Yeah, I had to learn how to stop wanting

to be in front of the camera.

Okay.

I had to learn how to get the hell behind the camera and just, all right, y'all don't have to like me, but I did help your favorite artist. I did write this country song. I did write this country song, I did write this shit, but you know, there was a time where people would look at those booklets.

Yeah.

When you get an album,

you just snatch that thing out the CD cover.

Who wrote, yeah.

You look at those things and they don't have those anymore. So I had to learn to be like, I don't need that credit. I don't need you to know It's obviously there, but I don't need everybody to have that knowledge, right? It's my family's taking care of my wife still loving my kids. Don't hate me We good I don't need anybody else to know exactly what I'm doing all the time.

And that's, you know, that's a thing that we all gotta do.

Any more free beats, hooks, features?

All the time.

You still do?

All the time. All the time. Free beats, hooks, features. I still do what we call T-mixes. Okay. T-mixes are always free because it has to be a song that I really, really, really, really like. And that's how you get a free T-Pain feature. You make a song that I really like, I'll do a verse to it and just put it out and you can do whatever you want to with it. It's not like a premeditated thing, you don't know what's happening. Things like that. I'm doing a Folded remix.

The Folded T-Mix is... I mean, Kehlani's already asking me to do something on her album, but I'm like, I was already doing it.

Right.

You know? But she was like, oh oh yeah just do that then okay cool. You know she added up the song ready for me and I can still do that song but I was like hey I'm about to do a folded. Just wanted to let you know as soon as I get off this road and as soon as I know it exactly what I'm about to do for the next two weeks I got you what I'm about to do for the next two weeks, I got you.

I'm about to do that Foda remix, but also I'm gonna do the thing that you asked me to do.

The Masked Singer. How did they get you to do that? And how do you sing in that damn big ass costume?

I gotta tell you, man, I tried to cancel The Masked Singer three days before I started it. Damn! days before I started it. Damn. Yeah, no it was bad. It was bad because when I actually got a hold, like a mental hold of what it was, I was like, oh this is stupid as hell. I don't do this. And then I was like, yo I'm good on this. I don't want to do this anymore.

And they're like, well, what's wrong? And I was like, you telling me if they can figure out who's in the costume, then they lose? I'm going to lose immediately. Everybody knows exactly what my voice sounds like. I don't know what it sounds like,

but apparently I'm a mix between C-Lord and Robin Thicke. I don't know what it sounds like, but apparently I'm a mix between C-Lord and Robin Thicke. I don't know how that works. So I'm like, if anybody can hear my voice, then I lose? They're like, no. If they figure out who you are, but they can't prove it, then you can keep going. And I'm like, oh, I get it. Can I drink? And they were like, yes, you can drink.

I'm like, okay, I can do it.

I mean.

I mean.

I mean.

And I don't know, you can probably pull it up now, but every night that I performed in that costume, I had to wear the pants. I was the only person that had pants, and then the rest of my costume would just engulf my body. Everybody else was an actual mask and just clothes.

You know what I mean? So it was like, I was the only person that was wearing an actual costume the entire time So every night you can see the eye Fog the fuck up and I couldn't see shit. So every night I was performing blind and I couldn't see shit That one that one last night that actually won me the whole thing

I Had a microphone in my hand had a microphone in my hand, I had a microphone in my actual hand outside of the costume and they wanted me to put the microphone up to the mouth of the thing and I'm like, I can't do that. I actually need, I need somehow to, maybe I have a fake hand outside and then I have a mic in here because I'm about to perform Stay With Me by Sam Smith.

Right.

And they're like, we can't do that. That's gonna look stupid as hell. You're gonna have just an arm out here with a microphone in it. And I'm like, okay, well, what's the best I can do? And they're like, we can put a microphone in your hand on a half a stand,

put it up to your mouth, but we can also have a microphone right here on your face.

The pedonymite.

I'm like, well, I breathe too much for that. And they're like, well, you gotta control your breathing and that's the only way we can do it. And that is literally what won me the whole thing because I was like, I'll hold my breath in between these lines in order to get this right.

And I literally was holding my breath that whole night, because you can hear me, like, in between the shit, because I was so hot in there.

Yes.

And I had fans in there, in the-

The costume.

In the costume. But you can hear the fans in the mic, so they had to cut them off. Wow. In order for the mic to be clean on my face, and they taped it to my sideburns and my lips,

and I'm like, okay, y'all are gonna make me lose this thing and I was like you know what I'm just locking in here we go and then I just sang it without taking a breath for that whole take that's what won me the whole thing I didn't take one breath that old time I was so scared I didn't take one breath that entire time that I'm

singing that shit. Let me get you out of here on this. What is T-Pain most proud of? What is your grandest accomplishment? T-Pain's most... T-Pain's most grandest accomplishment, honestly and I you, I say it in interviews, and I've said it in this interview, and I will keep saying it. My wife loves me and my kids don't hate me.

Because I know so many that that is not the case.

Wow.

I know so many people, and so many guys, that have kids and have a wife that hates them. That they, you know, they call it the old ball and chain. My wife don't do that to me. My wife, you know, she comes on the road with me. I never go anywhere without her. My kids don't hate me. My kids love everything that I do. I talk to my kids like we best friends. Everything that I do, my wife and kids are a part of it.

Well, that is such an accomplishment for a black man that it's kind of like a flex it's damn near like an outfit it's just like you know when this manager when they like you look like that take care of Yeah, and my wife loved me too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I bet your wife love you, old bitch ass hoe ass nigga. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, you know what love feel like, hoe ass nigga? Like damn, it's an insult now. Because we don't, sometimes we don't feel like we deserve the shit. And we really do. We really do we really do and have somebody there that actually With us and I have your kids

You know and to grow up with your kids. Yeah, it's awesome so, you know to have that stereotype of fatherly, you know black fatherless kids and shit like that like To be able to grow with your kids and have a wife that loves you, man. That is, I think that's... I mean, I can really be like, T-Pain, your mama a hoe. Yeah, my wife love me though.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's what it's like. T-Pain, your daddy ain't never love you. I mean, my kids do.

My kids love me though.

You know what I mean? So it's like, what can hurt you when nothing can? You know what I mean? Like, that's the, it's such a flex. It's such a pedestal in life to where, man, y'all can't do nothing to me.

I can literally go broke tomorrow. I can lose all my money tomorrow, but I'm still rich as because my kids and my wife love me.

Damn, that is a flex. Y'all make sure y'all go stream club husband, bro Will you come when you do when you do when you do that cover again? When you when you have that one two, three nights if it's somewhere close brah. I'm coming Thank you, bro. You got some vocals. Like I said, I look you rap we can go who run what but ain't no rapper dead Or alive that's what I can match this man's voice

T pain ladies and gentlemen. Gang life. Hell yeah!

Ow!

All my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle paid the price. Wanna slice, got to roll the dice. That's why all my life, I been grinding all my life. Yeah, all my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle paid the price

Wanna slice, got the roll of dice Wanna slice, got the roll of dice That's why, all my life, I been grindin' all my life