TERLANTAR, PUNYA ANAK DARI DJ P, CEWE INI MINTA TOLONG KARENA AKSES DI BLOCK.

Do you want to be gooprinted or what?

I'll take the blame.

Just throw it away.

Are you sure you still want to continue?

I'm sure. I'm ready to go to jail for my child. I'm begging you, please.

Please, let my child go. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it.

Cleo, finally. It feels good. What's your real name?

My real name is Cynthia.

Cynthia, okay. Long Cynthia? Cynthia. Just Cynthia? Yes. You're from far away nih dari Semarang ya?

Ya

Berarti kamu tinggal di Semarang?

Iya

Ok

Kamu tadi aku liat sama babymu kan ya?

Iya

Jadi kamu kesini bawa babymu Eeeh Pertama aku mau tanya dulu Aku udah jelasin sama kamu kan ya semua ya I've explained to you all, right?

If this podcast is very risky for you.

I've explained it, right? Yes. What did I explain?

If it has a bad impact on me.

Okay. What else did I explain?

The same thing, for example, the DNA test is not suitable, it will be in prison.

So you really want to go to jail?

Yes.

100%? 100% With all the risks?

Yes.

Okay. What did I suggest yesterday?

To think about it again.

Okay.

I suggest to finish it on a personal basis, right?

Yes, on a personal basis.

Okay. But you don't want right? Yes, personally. Okay. But you don't want to? No. No.

Why don't you want to?

That's it. Because I've tried before, right? I've tried to get along with him well. But from there, he started to block me.

Okay.

So you were blocked?

Yes.

Who blocked you?

His father said you? His father

His father Do you have any proof? Yes Can we see it later? Yes Okay

When did you meet this Panda?

I met Panda in October

October of what year?

2024

Okay That was when he was going to perform Tulung Agung. Then? There I DMed him, it was really like the first time. Do you often DM him? No, just that. Okay, so you met it, met first, then DMed? No, DM first, then met. DM first just met him through DM? you DM him as a what is it? as your position? as a fan

how long have you known DJ Panda?

actually since July, but I just saved him you saved him? yeah, like on TikTok the video of him

oh, you saw her videos on TikTok

yes, in July

I really wanted to meet her in October in Tulum Agung? yes, because it's close you live in?

Semarang

you met her?

yes, I met her

because there was a reply on DM? yes ok, so in, he replied to you? Yes. Okay, there's a DM? Yes. Okay, we'll see later, okay?

Okay.

Okay, so in the DM, he asked you to come to his performance?

No, not to come to the performance,ing place, I want to go to his place to sleep

Sleep?

Yes, sleep I want to perform by myself

Can I see his DM? Let me see I saw it I saw it on TikTok Because I think it's his account He posted some conversations

Oh, that's my account What? It's your account Yes, that's your account, right?

Yes

This one, right? Okay Here Ah, I'm already home There are many gangsters in Semarang Oh, you're replying to the story, right? When was it for are many gangsters in Semarang. Oh, you're replaying the story, right?

Kopan, for you, I'm in Semarang. On the 23rd, I went to Semarang. Oh, you replied, right? I replied. So, he already knew you?

No, not at all.

Suddenly, he replied like that?

Yes, suddenly he replied like that.

Okay. I know it's on purpose. I can go back to Solo. 18 in Solo, right? Yes, I want to go to Solo together. As much as I love you, I'll see you in Solo. Huh? It's shouting.

See you. I'll let you know later. Okay. If I'm alone, I can't move. My relatives will definitely come. My mom is a real loner. I'm at the front table, I can't move. My relatives must come. My mother is originally from Kediri. Wow, I'm the front table, not in the middle. Well, it's full.

Then I can't take a picture together. Oh, you finally met in Kediri?

Yes, in Tulung Agung.

In Tulung Agung? Oh, you went to the club?

Yes, a bar.

What's the name of the bar?

Uh, I forgot. name of the bar. I think it's in Tulung Agung.

Tulung Agung, yeah? He's a DJ there? Yes, he's a DJ. Can you do it? Just take a photo. If you're in Solo, you can do it. Because I don't want to make you feel bad.

Can you do it in Semarang? But if you want to do it, I'll still watch it. What do you mean? I'll still come to see him DJ. Oh, in Semarang? Yes, Semarang. Semarang is fine. If you're alone, just let me know. We can do it together.

Okay, see you. Okay. But you can't just say, Wek, wek, wek. Wow, how can a guy like me do that? Ek, wek, wek. Wow, how can a guy like me do that? I'll go home alone later.

I can do it solo. Wow, you have to be more passionate, even though you're on a business trip. I'm sorry. I was in Pareh for 5 months. What does it mean?

Oh, in Pareh, I'm taking a language course. In Pare, where is this Pare?

Pare, this is East Java. Oh, Pare, East Java. Yes. But often to Kediri. That's right, I don't know Kopan yet, ahaha, the Fiepe TikTok just passed. Okay, wek wek wek, not yet a match. This is a match to drink for the sake of meeting Drink for meeting Indonesian chicken Drink? Yes Where are you in this position?

It's in Tulung Agung

Oh, in the bar Oh, so you're a DMDM

Yes

Where is he in that position?

It seems like he Before performing

Oh, before performing

And you were there first

Yes

And you're drinking there

Yes

Who are you with?

Me and my friend

Okay, two or three? Yes, two or three? Yes, two. Two, boy or girl?

Boy.

Okay, ready. Sorry, I have to be detailed because this is very sensitive. Sorry, sorry. No problem. Yes, weg-weg-weg, maybe I'll be your chicken. Ko-ko, heart ah.

Oh, like that. Rawr. I just want to get on the train, please. See you solo at Semarang. You're kidnapped by a panda, right? When? Ah, Butterfly era. What's Butterfly era?

Butterfly era.

It's when you're happy.

Oh, happy. Okay. Just stay still. You're already staying still, freezing in the train. You have to stay still. Okay, dear. O-T-W.

First, say, Okay, dear. OTW first, sayang. Sayang, right?

Yes, sayang.

Sayang, okay. Okay, dear.

This is later solo with Maklau. The performance. Who is Maklau? DJ Claudia.

Okay.

At 12 o'clock, I went to the hotel first. Oh, this means is Solo now? Yes, that's the OTW to Solo. So you went from Tulung Agung to Solo? Yes, to Solo. By what train?

By train. Oh, okay.

Oh my, I'm being followed back.

Oh, you're being followed back? Yes, I'm being followed back.

Oh, you're performing alone? Wow, I'm already here. See you, Koko. Where were you drunk?

At Tulung Agung

Oh, this is still Tulung Agung, the conversation, so you want to make a promise later in Solo?

In Solo, I want to make a promise

It's okay, I'll read it It's okay So handsome, so handsome, did you see him? Yes, I'm sitting in a place until you go up to the top until the rest event is over, dear, you said, oh, then there's this, what's this His performance video, okay 10.30 o'clock, oh, here he replies to Solo, what time is it, Kopan, 10.31, what time is your train

He said he couldn't take a photo, he replied, he could, even though Kopan said yesterday that he can't take a photo, but he can answer. He said he can't move. He said he wanted to buy a ticket, but he performed at night. He said he was alone. He said he was busy. He said he wanted to take a photo, but he kept walking up.

He said he would accompany him. He met him in Solo. He didn't know if he was strong or not. He was drunk and single-toned. Did you drink? Single ton? Yes. Do you open a photo shop?

Yes.

You're pretty good at single ton, right?

Yes, I'm saving. Do you live a good life? Yes, I'm living a good life. But for him, I'm doing anything. The most important thing is to meet.

Okay.

So, this is like a fancy feeling.

Yes, it? Very fancy

I'm weak, I can't drink actually Wack, wack, wack, who told you to drink too? Well, I have to open the bottle I can take it home, wack, wack, wack Why take it home? Better invite others there like yesterday

Wack, wack, wack, yes, too I just drank it on purpose at 1 o'clock when I performed, I was really not strong, fortunately I can still record Kopan really didn't see me, which is like a bocilus, this is still a great help, yes, yes, it's still a great help Oh, that means as long as he performs, he's still with you, answer, answer, no, it's like he's already performed, he's already performed, so continue as long as you have performed, you don't see how to see it like an ant, even though you answer, even though Kopan passed by me, even though I want to hold his hand, it's really hard, Kopan's chicken is a lot, weg weg weg, yes I didn't notice, just go home with my manager,

weg weg weg, oh you mean he went home with his manager, it's okay, the important thing is I keep looking at Poco, yes, you go upstairs, right? what does it mean upstairs?

because there is a second floor in the bar

oh okay, where are you going? yesterday I saw you go up the stairs and go home really tired, and at 4 in the morning, it seems like you're already asleep take care ko ko wek wek wek ya nanti ketemu deh pasti aku terlupakan kaya semalam engga kamu nginep mana apa mau nginep tempatku kemarin nawarin bareng ke solo tapi ditinggal sekarang nawarin bubo di tempatnya mau kamu you answer, is there anyone? it's crowded, right? do you want to accommodate a kid? okay

are you a kid?

I'm a kid

oh

you're not 30 years old?

yes, I'm 30

yes, you said yesterday there's no one, just roadman what time do you arrive at Solo? phone number, give a phone number later, just call me later.

Yes.

How long will you perform? I don't know, I haven't got a run down yet. I'll share it later. Is this already solo?

Not yet.

This is still a solo.

Still a solo.

But how long will you perform? Yes, I asked, I mean make sure. This is for the solo? Not the solo. Oh, Solo, okay Okay, because I haven't bought this ticket yet

If it's not late, I can buy it until 10 o'clock At most 12 o'clock, my friend Okay, I'll take the night train Okay, just let me know later Okay, honey, the hotel is in... Yes, this is just a sensor

In Solo, right? Okay, wait a minute. Dear, see you on Tuesday. Tuesday. Dear, I don't want to know. Tuesday, I want to take a picture together.

What? I met you, there's no photo. I didn't ask for anything. Yes, dear. I miss you. Please reply. I'm so angry. yesterday I was texted, there was one Chinese who spoke as if the sky was fucking, imagine if you are humiliated by people, January. It was early, right? Yes, I was like, wait, wait, wait,

why don't you meet me again? But the person apologized, who said they didn't want to meet? Okay, where are you now? January.

That January, I'm in Tangerang.

Okay, Jakarta? Yes, Tangerang Okay, Jakarta? Yes, Tangerang Oh, I'm so sorry I don't know where you live I'm so sorry I'm so sorry

I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry there's a mall, who else? but I can't see it, if there's a lot of people okay, there's no one here, okay?

yes

okay this is a chat, oh, there's a lot of chat

yes, a lot

okay

why don't you believe me? wait, this is a direct DM, right? not a screenshot, right?

no

didn't you say you were blocked?

yes, but there's still a DM oh, is? but for open profile, it can't oh, in DM still available

but in CP's DM, it's not available

because it's deleted because when he said, I finish one by one there are two typing I think he deleted the first one

oh

because the typing is twice

this one, you don't have it deleted once eight months ago blah blah blah from the beginning there are a lot of this, it's impossible, I read everything, the point is like that, if it can be displayed, it can be displayed, if it can't, it't do it, the point is like that, oh this is the last one, this is the last one, okay, this is the last one, hello, how are you, you sent a photo, it was July 26th at 14.18, your child was born, ituko terus dia jawab halo sabar ya nanti aku beresin satu-satu ko aku minta maaf ya kalau aku salah sama kamu sabar dulu ya aku selesaikan satu-satu thank you chilla sabar ya aku selesaiin satu-satu ini julia podcast sama kita kapan julie ini tanggal 26 julie ini setelah podcast podcast Julie

July 26 yeah, it is a telepathic Samasaya Yeah, yeah, so so telepathic Samasaya. Yeah. Oh so telepathic this in here, okay, but he said telepathic this in here. Yeah, I could eat. I'm we are moving to Luan. Yeah I saw you contacted her first Yes Not her? Why did you contact her first?

Because in the podcast, she didn't like those two women

Didn't like them?

She said it's her business She will solve it one by one I was hoping that there would be a good attitude from her

Oh But when I contacted her, the answer was like that I think there will be a good etiquette from him Oh

It turns out when I contacted him, the answer was like that

Oh

Oh because of the hassle there Then he replied, but his reply is okay I'll take care of it one by one later Be patient, I'll finish one by one Thank you Cilla, be patient, I'll finish it Yes, Kopan

Just save my phone number You give me the number And his father's number Yes Okay, I'm confused why you didn't reply. Okay, I've already sent you the number. You just need to save my phone number. You gave me the number and your father's number. Yes. Okay, I'll save everything.

What's your father's number for? If I'm hard to reach, I'll contact my family.

Okay, but your father knows? But he didn't reply? No, I'm sorry. He actually replied. He replied, I know. Oh, he unsent you? He unsent me.

Oh.

That's why I'm confused.

Okay. I've done my AI, you continue. Then there's a reply, sorry, this is Panda's dad, who are you?

Because I asked Panda if he doesn't remember you. There are so many people who insult my son, don't cause a problem again. Thank you. Then you reply, hello, I'm Cilla, I'm sorry before, I'm a girl who was with you too.

Everything is still there, we chat, even I took a picture with you when you said you forgot me. masa ko panda bilang lupa aku tapi tadi inget nama aku chila aku sudah melahirkan anaknya panda um

iya

ini terakhir di juli 26 ya setelah itu di blok di blokin?

ya setelah itu setelah typing itu di blok

WA nya? WA nya ga ada kamu ga save nomor nya hubungin WA? oh sudah tapi ga dibales After typing, it was blocked The WAN? The WAN is not there You didn't save the number? Connected to the WAN?

Oh, I did But it was not replied

Oh, you wrote something there?

Yes, there is

But it was not replied at all?

No

Both? The father's number too?

I didn't connect the father Only the Panda

Okay What you know Why did the father block you?

Because he said that his father forgot about me

based on that?

yes, based on what his father said

just that?

just that

so you were a fan at first?

yes, fan

then finally became close?

yes

okay now the event finally you can in a relationship what is the term

yes after came to Solo after coming to Solo I went straight to his room

okay we follow yes Tulung Agung

Tulung Agung because in Tulung Agung I didn't meet him after that to Solo Solo, yes, take the train to Solo, after arriving in Solo, I was given access to him to go to his room

Is there proof of that? Yes, there is In WA? Yes, in WA What date do you remember?

18th

What date?

18th October Ok, 18th October

Ok, continue

After that, I went to his room After I went to his room But before that, I opened the room first Because I didn't want to sleep with him I mean, I didn't want to share the room with him I was afraid that there would be someone else So I didn't want to sleep with him, I didn't like the room with him. I was afraid that there would be someone else, so I didn't feel good.

After that, I found him in his room, knocking. After knocking, he opened the room, opened the door. In the position, he didn't wear anything. He didn't wear clothes, but he wore a blanket.

Okay. But it was a meeting in the room? I don't wear clothes anymore, but I wear a blanket

Okay, but it was a meeting in the room? Yes, the meeting was in the room

That was after you watched her perform in Solo?

No, that was before

Before the performance? Yes So you were from Tulung Agung, Solo?

Yes

Tulung Agung, Solo?

Yes

So Tulung Agung was on the 17th?

Yes

Solo was on the 17th? Yes Solo on the 18th? Yes, on the 18th You didn't go home?

No

Why?

Because it's so close How far is it? To watch him

How far is it? Oh, like that As close as the fans?

Yes

And when he offered you to go to his room, what was on your mind?

Well, I'm a big fan of yours. I'm a big fan of yours. I'm so happy to meet you. I'm so happy to meet you. I'm so happy to meet you. I'm so happy to meet you. I'm so happy to meet you. Yes. And then? Well, it happened. Who started it? The one who started it.

It was him. He said, Come here, accompany me. He didn't do anything. He said that. He just accompanied me to sleep. He hugged me. He said that.

At that time, you didn't fight back? I did. Honestly? Yes, I did. Honestly?

Yes, honestly. But after that, I was just a bit lost.

What was it like? Describe it. Don't. It was too far. Oh, too far.

Yes.

And then, you were lost.

Lost.

This is a lesson for fans Don't go into that area

Fans are just fans Yes, I'm wrong too

Then it happened Yes, it happened I'm really sorry, dear It happened, and then

Yes, after That relationship, right? So, that's what happened. And then? After that, I still accompanied him. He was sleeping. I was beside him, not sleeping. I accompanied him until he wanted to perform. Because the performance was at 10.

I was told to wake him up at 10.30.

Okay.

What time did you go to the bedroom?

I think around 7.

Around 7. You didn't wear your seatbelt?

I was surprised. I was surprised. Why didn't I wear it? Then he said, It's okay, I don't have a toll.

He said that.

You don't have a toll?

Yes, I don't have a toll. But? But I don't know. I think he has removed it or something. Because...

You are so sensitive. I'm sorry.

It's okay.

Because the external part is a little. You feel that way?

Or you see it that way? I checked. I check my body there's something coming out sorry in my chest

that's enough, don't apologize if you want to be kicked out of this party, you can because I'm too far away but I need to know so that the information is clear

if not, you can be attacked from all sides that's why like I said yesterday you think well okay, well then you after that he performed then what

I woke him up, right? I woke him up and then I went back to my room

to your room?

Yes, because I opened my own room

Okay, so you were in Solo, you opened your own room first

Yes

Oh, I see, you opened your own room first, then you went to his place

Yes

Okay, so you opened that room on your own will?

Yes

Okay And then you paid for it yourself?

I paid for it myself, but they said they wanted to change it. But they didn't change it.

What do you mean by they said they wanted to change it?

The room fee, they wanted to change it, but they didn't.

Oh, did they say that?

Yes, they said that. If they wanted to open the room themselves, it's okay. They'll tell him the total amount, and he'll change it all. I told him that he would replace all of us.

So after that he performed, you went to your room? Yes.

After that?

I was in my room until the next morning. I didn't go out again.

Did you sleep?

Yes, I slept.

Did you sleep?

Actually, I didn't sleep. I was waiting for his reply. He said he wanted to perform, right? I mean, together, you know, to go there, to his place. But he didn't reply.

Oh, you didn't go?

No.

You chose to stay in your room?

Just in my room.

Finally, you slept in your room.

Because I was tired.

Tired. Did you hear from him the next day?

No. Well, did he disappear? I'm good. Did you lose contact? Yes, I did. I just replied, sorry, I just read it. When was that?

It's been a while. So, from October 18th,

how long has it been?

A few days. After you came back to Semarang? Yes. So, you came back to Semarang? Yes So you came back to Semarang from Solo? Yes Okay, and then you continued to DMDman or WA?

DMDman and WA

Oh, both of them

And then you met again?

Yes, in Semarang

Semarang, when he performed in Semarang

Yes, on the 23rd

You came? I came Okay, did he greet you at the venue?

Not at all.

But did he know you were coming?

He knew. He was behind me, I was in front of him.

Oh, but he replied?

No.

Not this time?

No.

So you were just monologuing, by yourself? Yes. He didn't reply to anything?

No. Like, it was strange. Yeah. He didn't reply? No. He was like a stranger. A stranger?

Yeah. What were you thinking?

Oh, whatever. Maybe he was mad at me or something.

Okay. After that?

I did talk to him. I said, Kopan, please reply to my message. But he was like a stubborn person, like a bad person. He just said yes.

Oh, like you didn't know him?

Yes.

And then what happened next? And then, after that, you didn't see him again?

No.

Lost contact? Lost contact.

I just performed.

And then, you knew you were pregnant?

Yes, because the month was late.

Okay. What month were get pregnant?

I checked it in November.

November, what day?

The last day of November.

The last day of November? Yes. You don't know the exact date?

No.

Were you surprised?

I was surprised because October is not a menstrual month.

So that's when you're pregnant?

Yes.

You didn't know?

I didn't know.

You got pregnant at that time? Yes You didn't know? No You were pregnant at that time? What did you do?

I was confused

Confused? Why?

How could I? How could you be pregnant? It was just once

Yes, that's right. I understand. But you did forgive him, right? Yes I want to make sure You didn't have a partner at that time?

No No? No, I didn't.

No girlfriend?

No.

But status, have you ever been married?

Yes, I was married.

Okay. Now, at that time, were you married or still married?

Married, there is already a divorce certificate.

Okay, there is already a divorce certificate, it's clear. You got married in, in, in, when? 2023. Okay, far away is a way to explain it. When did you get married?

In 2023.

Okay, that's a long time. Yes. Did you have a child?

I had one.

You had one child. I saw it on the internet. You had one child, so you were pregnant with your second child.

Yes.

Okay. After that, you were confused, what did you do? Did you contact Panda or your parents or what?

First, my sister.

Okay. You have a sister. How many siblings?

I have five.

Five, okay. And then?

My sister was shocked.

She asked, who my father was. Yes.

I sent him a picture of Panda. But he didn't believe me. He said it was impossible for a man to want to be with me.

And? My brother said,

don't let him. He said that.

Did you want to be fired?

I didn't. I didn't want to be fired.

So, what was your next target?

It's okay, just raise it. Later, it's called Teteh, right? Later, Teteh will help with the cost of USG or vitamins, all kinds of things.

Okay. What do you do?

at that time I only worked in the medical service

medical service, what did you do?

I was a volunteer

volunteer? oh, you were a volunteer?

yes, I was a volunteer

oh, did you get paid? how much per month?

if you don't count it, it's not sure

how much? it can be around 500-1 million How much per month? If you don't count the month, I'm not sure. Roughly? Roughly, it can be 500 to 1 million.

Per month?

Per two weeks.

Per two weeks. So, how much per month?

Roughly...

1 million, 2 million? Yes. You're not a singleton. Where did you get the money from?

That's my savings. I have gold too.

Can you afford to buy a house?

It's enough.

I heard from Sukaparsi, James. It's okay if I mention your name. I heard you have a daughter. Yes.

How old is she?

Almost 70.

The other one is in the wheelchair. Mother. Father? Yeah I'm here to do pull up. Yes, I took a tiny kursi. Roda. Yeah, he boo-hoo. Bapa

Bapa Masih, say hi. Yeah, I'm a good you Mama, I'm not a good. Yeah, daddy

Good warren to a separate via

Kaka

Jadi come on, I'm sorry to hear you. I'm aksani bong Come on, I forced it have you ever been friends with someone? just now?

yes, the one who is really bold like finding it, this one

but you've had a fan? yes, I have and then you got pregnant yes at that time, in your mind, when you were pregnant, right? Yes. What were you thinking when you were pregnant?

I wanted to be responsible, not in marriage. Like, I wanted to pay for my child.

Oh, because you were not financially strong enough.

Yes.

Did you try to contact them?

I did.

So, in the pregnancy process, there is a company to contact?

Yes, contact

Where do you contact?

To Pandanya directly

Has it been blocked?

Not yet

Not yet? Not yet

Replied? Replied via WhatsApp

Oh, you said you were pregnant?

Yes I sent a photo of the test pack Why am I pregnant?

So she should know, right?

Yes.

Okay, and then?

Then, how do I do this? Do I want to be rejected or what? Oh, because you said that? But if I'm rejected, I don't dare. Okay. And I don't want to because it because he doesn't know anything.

I'm the one who's wrong.

What will you say?

Just throw it away.

Do you have proof?

Yes.

Okay. The important thing is that you have proof, right? Yes. Okay. Okay. Then, when he said, just throw it away, what did you say?

Poor thing. He's not his fault. It's my fault. You're okay with it?

Yes.

Any other answers? Yes. It's okay. Just throw it away. Just look for it on... What's it called? Shopee. Citotec. There are so many. Why are they being sold?

I don't understand this one.

Medicine, right?

Medicine.

Have you ever buried a child?

No. Never. Have you ever buried a child? No, never. I'm sorry. It's okay.

Honestly, this podcast is really heavy for me. Because from the beginning, I wanted to finish it on a private level. Because I'm talking to you, right? I'm really tough there, right? I'm always holding on, right?

Yes.

Because I don't want this to go public. But I'm a media person. I give you a place, and I give you a place for Panda, whoever it is, as long as there's clear evidence. So I don't want to be left or right wing, because I'm a media person. So, after that, what was the ending of that conversation?

I kept it.

He didn't reply? No.

What happened next?

I was confused, so I contacted his roadman.

What's his name?

It's okay to say it.

It's okay.

His name is Ko Chen.

Ko Chen?

Yes.

You contacted him, what did you say? Ko Chen. Ko Chen? Yes. You contacted him.

What did you say? Ko Chen, I'm pregnant.

Okay.

Pregnant with a panda's baby. And he didn't believe me.

He didn't believe you?

Yes. I sent him all the evidence. When I was with him, and everything. When we got to the test pack, he finally believed me. And what did he do? he wanted to cross-check with the panda he wanted to talk to the panda first

after that, he told him the result

and what was the result?

the result was that he didn't want to take responsibility

according to the explanation from?

Ko Chen but Ko Chen but Ko Chen was very strict for this panda whether he wants to or not, he has to take responsibility because this is his child too

okay so there was an effort by Ko Chen how to make him take responsibility finally? he didn't take responsibility, but in the end, he just gave him money.

Okay, so Coach Jane contacted you, and then what did she say? Why did she give him money?

She said it was for his birth money. Okay. I was so strong, so I I can to make him responsible. But I'm sorry, I only got this much money. This is for your birth fee.

Okay.

That's all?

Yes. Then I said, it's okay, Kochen. I actually don't want to accept that money.

You need it for your childbirth.

Yes, but I need the money to pay for the check-up.

Oh, you mean the monthly expenses.

Yes, so I accept it.

Okay. Did you have any agreement at that time? Yes, there was. What was the agreement?

I don't remember the content. The point is, after I received the money, the relationship was broken.

Okay, this is from the Kochen.

Yes, because Kochen dictates everything.

Okay, so Kochen represents what you want to know. Yes. So what did he say in the agreement? So, the story is about what he wants to do? Yes. Okay, so what is it? What does he say in the letter?

The point is, when this child is born, he has nothing to do with anything else.

The letter?

Yes, the contents of the letter.

The contents of the letter? And you wrote a signature? Yes.

Using a marker?

Yes. Okay. Do you know what the meaning of the letter is? At that time?

I don't know. I just followed it.

Okay. You just followed it, right?

Yes, I followed it.

Now, do you know what the meaning of the letter is?

I know.

What is it?

The point is, I have no more contact with him after I received the money.

Okay.

Because that will definitely be problem later, right? Yes The problem is, the letter will be made as a proof that our relationship is over

Yes

Right?

Yes

What do you want?

I want him to admit that he's his son.

The question is, why did you show up now?

I showed up now because there was a goodwill from Panda. But after that, I contacted him and he blocked me.

Oh, from that podcast?

Yes.

That's why you that podcast? Yes. That's why you appeared? Yes. But the hope all that time, actually you still want to solve that problem, your child's problem, or do you want to go alone? Want to solve it. Oh, so you still want to be solved? Yes,

but why is the response from the other side, the response is like that.

There's another one, right? The one who said she was pregnant with a panda.

Yes, there is.

Do you know her?

Yes, I know her.

How did you know her?

I knew her after my daughter was on TikTok. So I chatted with her.

Who was the first one? Who contacted you first?

Him He was like, how come?

You were lucky How come?

Where is he?

I don't know He didn't show up? No, he didn't You didn't ask him why he didn't show up? I did. What was the reason? He really wants to continue his life.

He moved on from Panda.

Why did he move on?

He said he was heartbroken with Panda. But he wanted to live his life.

Why was he heartbroken?

Because he was promised. He was promised to be responsible. But, he didn't.

Who got pregnant first? You or him?

Me.

Okay. So, you mean you...

Me, him, and then... It's okay to say it.

It's okay.

Mrs. R.

Oh, I see. Not the other way around? You, Mrs's okay to mention her name. It's okay. Mbak Er. Oh, I see.

Not the other way around?

You, Mbak Er, and then her?

I don't know, it should be like that.

Because she was just born.

Mbak Er was born because she was accelerated.

Oh, I see.

Mbak Er was supposed to be born on the 10th.

Okay.

So, the girl her initials is A right? she contacted me she gave me all the details

but i didn't want to talk about it because i said if you don't want to appear that's your business i don't want to get involved and it's better if you don't appear what mix it up, it's better, it doesn't have to show up, actually, what's the kids reported, there was a conversation there, discussing about your boyfriend in December, so we talked about October with Panda,

so after that you have a boyfriend, right?

No, that's my ex, I told my ex.

Your ex is the one who is married? No, there's a guy, he's actually broken. I told my ex. Your ex is your husband?

No, there's a guy. He's actually broken up a long time ago.

Before you met Panda?

Before.

So when you met Panda, you had a boyfriend?

No, because he's broken up.

Oh, he's broken up. You're telling me about that guy?

Yeah, because he's still heartbroken, so I just shared it.

Are you heartbroken with Panda or a heartache with the guy?

No, I'm talking about the trait

Oh, okay. Why can there be a trait there all of a sudden? Because people will be confused because at that time you were pregnant Then suddenly you discuss, but the guy discussed is not Panda

Yes, because it still hurts my heart

Because it's a guy?

Yes

What does that guy do to you?

Don't pay me. He was heartbroken, so I shared it on TikTok.

Is this heartbroken too?

Yes, it is.

Okay.

Is this your business? Because of your heartache, you want to ruin his name? No. Because there will be questions there.

I'm sorry. No, I don't. I don't want to ruin his name or what? No Because there will be questions there, right? Yes I don't have any intention to ruin his career at all Because from the beginning I was pregnant, I told him I don't want to ruin my career, Panda

You said that?

Yes

So?

I mean, you don't want to ruin it, so what?

So, I'm done, I'm quiet

About the pregnancy, I yes, I'm quiet about the pregnancy. Oh.

I'm quiet.

But at that time, there was no case of this going up, right? Yes. Now the case is going up. Surely many people say you want to have a baby. Surely there are a lot of narrations there.

I have no intention to have a baby. In fact, I'm really embarrassed.

What are you embarrassed?

Because this is wrong. It's my own fault.

I told you when you came to me. You were sure you wouldn't be arrested. But I couldn't arrest you. Because you told me, but you blocked all the access, where can I communicate? So now, what do you want?

I just want Panda to admit that it's his child.

Okay.

If you need a DNA test, I'm willing to do it. I really want to do a DNA test. If it's proven that it's his child, please admit it.

Please admit it?

Yes.

How about the money?

No need. No need to pay for the money, it's okay. So I can find it myself. pay the income, it's okay. I can find it myself. I just want to know the details of the child.

But there must be a narrative like this, right? Some people say that there are some who finally decide to just let the father know who the child is. Yes. Because they know, right? Yes. Why don't you go down that road?

From my family.

From your family? Yes. What do your family want?

Just want to explain this kid.

Explanation?

Yes. Oh, this is his father.

If the explanation is done in a personal way, like I told you to finish your DNA test, don't try to trick me, and if this is your child, then finish it in a personal way. Are you okay with that?

Yes.

He said, this is just a temporary thing. Just admit that this is your child.

This is a risk from your job. Is this a risk from your job?

Yes, a job for a girl. Payment. That's where I feel bad. Because I'm not a payment girl.

Based on that? Yes, based on what her father said. You can assure that you're not a payment girl?

No, I'm not an open-open-bo type of girl. I'm not. I'm a fan.

Because people will look for the track record, right? Yes. Yesterday I saw a link, there's a video of you, Cynthia. Have you ever played bigo?

In 2016.

What did you do in bigo?

It was a normal live, just chatting

Because everyone will know about you You already know? Yes Your past is being dragged

It's okay, because that's the fact

I feel sorry for your mental Because you will have a child You're still in the process of breastfeeding, right?

Yes

Breastfeeding?

Breastfeeding, full.

Don't you feel sorry for yourself?

I do.

You don't feel sorry for your child?

I feel even more sorry for myself. Because if I don't speak up, my family will still be against me.

Why are you being opposed?

Well... Because... They said...

It's just... I'm sorry. Take a deep breath. Thank you.

Take your time. I was told that it's embarrassing for my family. And even if my siblings went to my house, I was not seen. I was not invited to talk or anything. If it wasn't for my mother who begged me to forgive her, maybe one of my brothers didn't forgive me. So my second brother forgave me when I was about to be born. Because I was all alone.

I went to the hospital alone. I'm sorry. So, who do you live with now? My parents.

But it seems like you're not considered anymore. Yes, and my brothers So they asked you to finish it and find the father of this child? Yes That's the point?

Yes

So you went far, all the way here Are you ready

to the end? Yes? I'm ready. Because this is my child's fault. I'm willing to fight for my child.

Even if you're going to be judged? It's okay.

I'm the one who's being judged, not my child.

Your child is also likely to be judged.

I'm sorry.

I'm not, I disagree. Because in my opinion, all of you are making mistakes. But I disagree. I give you a chance here because I hope you can solve everything well. Because if it's like this, everything is wrong, everything is wrong, nothing is right. And admitting that mistake is not enough. There must be a way to fix it, which is indeed done.

So you've come this far, huh? Yes. So you can be tested, and your child will be tested. Okay?

Already tested.

Already tested.

Plus, there's no explanation.

Maybe the DNA test won't happen. How? Maybe the DNA test won't happen.

What do you think?

I will still fight for him.

I'm asking you this because this is the worst possibility that you might find. It's okay, I accept it.

You accept it? I'm sorry, I'm not trying to stop you or anything, I'm just pitying you Because I hope that when you step there, you know the consequences I made this podcast because I'm worried about you The consequences that will happen, right? Many times, right? It's hard, especially when you have a child

And you give your child milk and Where do you get it from?

My child is full-ass.

What about the rest?

My parents.

But your parents don't work?

They don't.

Where do you get the money from?

Because my brother has a workshop.

Motorcycle? Car?

No, a welding workshop, aluminum

Okay

So there are samples left, right? It's made into a bag Okay Sometimes I get a drop from my brothers to sell Okay

From there

How much do you need a month for your child? If you want to calculate.

I don't know, maybe a month, two balls.

How much is it? Two balls of Pampers? One million is enough for a month's child?

Enough.

Okay.

How about the immunization? You said you had...

I was helped by someone, because I had no money, so the immunization was late. Then there was a coach, and he asked me how the immunization was. I hadn't been immunized yet, and he asked me to be immunized. I was sent money to get immunization.

The sycochain?

Yes.

Okay.

If you have a DNA test, and it's not a panda, it means that the result of the DNA test is enough as evidence to imprison you.

Yes. And it's very likely that you can be imprisoned. is enough as evidence to put you in jail Yes

And there's a high possibility that you can get in You will lose your child, and you will go to jail

Yes

If it's not his child

Yes

Are you sure you still want to continue?

Yes

I'm ready to go to jail for my child

What's the child's blood type? O What's your blood type?

B

Please tell us if there's anything you want to tell Panda, or his parents. Just say it. Say it, he'll definitely watch it.

For Panda, I hope Coco will do a DNA test to prove that it was really my son. And if it's proven, I want to tell my son and his parents, Please, Auntie. Please...

don't make it hard for me to...

do the DNA test. That's all.

Okay. That's enough, Bet. Be patient, okay? I'll give you two days. Think about it. If you're not sure if this podcast is going to be broadcasted, we won't broadcast it. Okay? Okay.

You'll contact me in two days from now. Okay?

Okay.

Deal?

Deal. Okay. You can call me in 2 days from now, okay? Okay Okay? Okay Deal?

Deal Deal

Okay