Termina el cierre de gobierno (Shutdown): sigue la incertidumbre. ¿Te tocan $2,000?

I see the good things that are with us because the White House answered us. Do you remember that we had asked the White House five questions about the $2,000 that supposedly citizens of the United States and perhaps legal residents will receive? Well, we have the answer from the White House. It is not exactly what we wanted, and the truth is that it is not exactly what you wanted, but we have some kind of response. And we also have an interview with the director of Human Rights Watch, who is denouncing something very harsh. She says that in El Salvador, in the prisons of El Salvador, there is systematic torture.

This is a very harsh accusation. Surely, the government of Nayib Bukele will respond, but the accusation is very harsh. But we started today with the... I was going to say the closing, but it's with the opening of the United States government after 43 days of shutdown, as they say in English, 43 days closed.

This will be possible after the Senate of the United States votes in favor of reopening the government, and then the House of Representatives will come. It was complicated because the more than 400 members of the US Congress were in different parts of the country and had to return there to be on time, to be with this very important vote. The Democratic Party is furious with the seven Democratic congressmen and the Independent, who joined the Republicans so that this could happen in the senate but then of course it is a process goes to the senate goes then to the chamber of representatives and finally to the signature of president donald trump mike johnson who is the leader of the majority in the chamber of representatives that is to say he is the representative of the republicans went out

to talk about the reopening of the government but then look well he begins to apologize to all the people, millions of people, who have been affected by this closure and blame everything, as always, the Democrats.

Good morning, good morning everybody. I just wanted to come out and say that we believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight. It was completely and utterly foolish and pointless in the end, as we said all along. I just want to apologize to any Americans who are out there who still have flight cancellations or delays today I want to apologize to the many American families who were made to go hungry over the last several weeks our troops and other Federal employees who are wondering where their next paycheck would come from all of that's on the Democrats Just never forget, they voted 15 times between the House and

the Senate to close your government. And the Republicans tried every single day of the shutdown to open it. And we voted 15 times to do that. They have a lot to answer for. And I just want to say that we're very optimistic about the

vote tally tonight. We think this is going to happen. And we're sorry that it took this long. So Republicans are going to deliver for the people. We're ready to get back to our legislative agenda. We have a very aggressive calendar for the remainder of this year. There'll be some long days and nights here,

some long working weeks, but we will get this thing back on track. So thank you all. Stay tuned for more. The national nightmare is also a problem. That's how Mike Johnson has described what we've been going through for the last 43 days. But there's still a huge fight between Republicans and Democrats about medical benefits, but particularly about subsidies. And if your medical insurance starts to cost more in a few months, who are you going to blame? The Democrats or the Republicans? The Democrats say they are fighting for that.

The Republicans say they are excessive expenses. Now, so far, one of the biggest tragedies that has occurred by this closure are the 42 million people who receive SNAP benefits. I mean benefits or government coupons to buy food. This is one of the most complicated things. But it turns out that of the 50 states in the country, only 18 have some kind of aid with food coupons because governors and state assemblies have come to help. But there are 32 states where there is no kind of aid

for the people who need it the most. I'm going to show you the following graph where you can see which states are giving out the full food coupons. There's California, Hawaii, Kansas, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, and Wisconsin. Partially, some type of help is being given, food couponsons in Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Texas, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio. But there are 32 states, imagine, at this time, despite the fact that the government has been closed,

at this time there are 32 states where there is no kind of food aid for the people who need it the most. So, they are using the aid of non-governmental organizations, or food dispensaries, or simply neighbors, to be able to continue living. Very well, let me pass. Do you remember that the main news we have talked about in the last 24 hours had to do with these supposed $2,000, in which the US government, with the words of President Donald Trump,

through his platform, The Truth Social, was going to give to citizens of the United States. And we had many questions. We wanted to know if this aid is for citizens of the United States, but also for legal residents in this country. We wanted to know if these $2,000 were going to be given

only to one family or all the family members. When was it going to be given? How was it going to be given? So, we did what any journalist would have done. We wrote to the White House, to their email, and they answered us. But they didn't answer what we wanted to hear. But it seems to us that it is very important that you know that the government, in this case the White House, responded to some questions from the journalists, but they responded to us in a generic way. The translation of the letter, we are going to still been temporarily suspended because the Democrats in Congress have closed the federal government so that they can give medical care and benefits to illegal immigrants.

The word is not mine, it is theirs. They use the word illegal. I never use it. They are undocumented immigrants. Simply, and they say sincerely, we want to apologize for not being able to respond in a quick way to this message so important, but if you need immediate help with a federal

agency, you can contact us and they give us a number and an email where to contact us. Against what the Democrats do, the White House letter continues. President Donald Trump will continue to put you, the people of the United States, first. Please know that he loves you. They use the word loves you, but it says, please know that he loves hearing from you. That is, the president loves, likes to hearing from you. What did they tell us? And what are the things we are trying to do? I think our job as journalists is to ask questions and wait for the answer. We continue to wait for the answer of who will receive those $2,000,

when, and who qualifies and who does not qualify. The USS Ford, another very important news, is already in Latin America. It is in the Caribbean waters, approaching the coasts of Venezuela. At the moment, there are approximately a dozen ships from the United States, in the USS Ford. But this is important because it is the largest warship that the United States has, with dozens of aircraft and thousands of Marines that are inside the USS Ford. And this is what I would suggest, that is, if this ship is arriving near the coasts of Venezuela,

what is it arriving for? Is there any type of military operation? Of course, the White House is not going to tell us, nor the Defense Department, which is now called the War Department. But the question is whether we are approaching any type of military operation or invasion by the United States to Venezuela. In Venezuela, they are preparing for war. We have images of military equipment in Venezuela, where they are supposedly preparing for this. The dictator, Nicolás Maduro, has called for activating

the commands. This is the word I used, activating the commands within Venezuela, preparing for a possible confrontation, conflict or military operation by the United States. And on November 11, he signed precisely this order to activate the commandos. This is what Nicolás Maduro said.

From this moment on, when signing this law, all the integral defense commands must be activated at dawn, which bring together all the public institutions of the Venezuelan state, the military institution and all the people's power. so that the Integral Defense Commands are established, structured and get to work. Signed, approved, reaffirmed.

And we are hearing at the moment words of confrontation, of tension, of struggle on the part of the Venezuelan dictatorship. And this happens at the same time, that is, while they are activating these commands in Venezuela, the US government has sent the largest aircraft carrier, the USS Ford, which is located on the coast of Venezuela, and we do not know exactly what is going to happen, but tensions are growing.

I will return to the United States. Democrats in Congress have just released some emails from Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein, we've talked about him, a pedophile, a sexual abuser, who finally committed suicide in prison, according to the official version. Here are some old photos of the current president, Donald Trump, with Jeffrey Epstein. But what's interesting is what these new email addresses say,

and I'm going to be extremely careful with this. I'm going to read what the New York Times newspaper said. The New York Times newspaper says that in these emails, Jeffrey Epstein said that Donald Trump, and I'm quoting, Donald Trump spent hours at home, where it was later found out that there were victims of sexual abuse.

President Donald Trump has totally denied this. Not only that, but following what the New York Times says, Trump knew about the girls, according to this journalistic version based on the email of the Democrats. President Donald Trump has said that he knows absolutely nothing about this. And what you are seeing here are these three emails given to the Democrats in the House of Representatives that would suggest that the president knew something about what was happening inside the house of Jeffrey Epstein, but I want to insist once again that both

President Donald Trump and the White House have insisted that what the Democrats say is totally a lie. Since we are talking about this, let me tell you about Adelita Grijalva. Adelita Grijalva, after the death of her father, the congressman Raúl Grijalva, participated in special elections and was elected seven weeks ago. Well, he hasn't been able to take office because Congress hadn't resumed its operations. But this afternoon, Adelita Grijalva will be the new congresswoman in replacement for her father.

And not only that, but she is the number, the congresswoman 218, which are the 218 votes that are needed to make known not only these new emails from Jeffrey Epstein, but hundreds and hundreds, perhaps thousands of documents linked to Jeffrey Epstein, and there are many people who are very afraid that his name will appear there. We are going to talk about the raids here in the United States. The raids continue, particularly in cities dominated by democratic mayors, or where there is political control by the democrats. But what you are going to see now, I find it very interesting.

It is a video where an agent is taking an undocumented mother, apparently, and this mother is saying, please leave me because I have babies. But the interesting thing is how the person who is filming is telling the agent, you are in the same situation,

remember your mother, remember where you come from. We did the investigation and currently there are 19,000 border patrol agents. And of those 19,000, at least border patrol and of those 19,000 at least 30% are of Latin origin. Here is what we saw. She got babies bro. Algun numero? numero a quien le hablas?

Pinche paisa

No no no son chingaderas brother

Hey leave her alone bro Yo Yo you have two and a half and a fucking more than half Why you not ask for my paper bro? Hey Hey

Hey She got babies bro, leave! Leave it alone man! You got car, you got babies!

Think about it!

She has kids, don't be like that!

Please, look at her! Think a little bit bro, you have babies! She's the head of my parents,

and now your family is coming here to help her!

Look!

Have a little heart brother! She has kids! of the the border patrol. In Boston, they are also asking the agents to identify themselves so that everyone knows exactly who is arresting them. In Spanish, the mayor of Boston. Today we announce the first of the 19,000 agents of the border patrol. We are going to have a look at the list of the agents that are going to be arrested. We are going to have a look at the list of the agents to identify themselves so that everyone knows exactly who is arresting them here.

In Spanish, the Mayor of Boston.

Today we announce that all patrol officers will wear labels with their name, because true public security requires transparency. Knowing someone's name makes a difference. When federal government agents in masks watch our schools and churches, when they take parents out of their homes without due process, and refuse to show a sign or give their name,

the goal is not security, it is fear. It means that when you are in crisis, you do not face an unknown behind a uniform. You are talking to a person, with a neighbor or neighbor. That is what represents true public security. desconocido detrás de un uniforme. Estás hablando con una persona, con un vecino o vecina. Eso es lo que representa la verdadera seguridad pública. La ciudad también se ha revisado y ajustado el programa de entrenamiento de oficiales de patrulla para mejorar la responsabilidad y ofrecemos más apoyo a los nuevos reclutas. Hemos ampliado el calendario de vacaciones de verano para asegurar que haya suficiente personal en los meses más the summer vacation calendar to ensure that there is enough staff in the most

active months without the need to force officials to make extra hours. To each member of our department, thank you for sitting at the table and working to improve the lives of our residents and our officials. And thank you for showing the country how the public security system works.

The statements from the mayor of Boston, which we thought were very important, especially because she is demanding that when agents arrest you, the least you should know is who is arresting you and that you are fully identified. That is a pilot program that will begin in the city of Boston. We end with these pens. Today is the last day, if you have one of these,

today is the last day that they will be printed and produced here in the United States. The last day because practically no one uses them anymore. We're not just using cards all the time. People no longer use cash or cash. But who pays with a penny? Many say that by taking out the pennies, then more inflation will be created, because nothing will cost, for example, 9.99, or nothing will cost 5.49, but everything will go up to 5.50.

That is to say, pennies will no longer be used, but then I'm starting to think that maybe if you keep the pennies, then you can get a little more money. And now we're going to our first interview. It's an interview with the director of Human Rights Watch, who assures that in the Salvadoran prisons there is systematic torture.

This is part of the video of the Human Rights Watch report that today gives to know. We have had the opportunity to speak exclusively with the director of Human Rights Watch and the interview with her right now.

So see things.

Today we have a special interview about an investigation carried out by the Division of the Americas of Human Rights Watch on the fate of 252 Venezuelans who were in the Secot, this maximum security prison in El Salvador. The title of this special research is called Has it reached hell? And to talk about that, we invite Juanita Gubertuz,

who is the Director of the Division of the Americas of Human Rights Watch. Juanita, thank you for being here on the program.

Jorge, thank you very por la invitación. Un saludo a toda la audiencia.

El título es durísimo. Ha llegado al infierno. ¿Qué es lo que encontraron?

Pues este es un informe, Jorge, basado en más de 200 entrevistas. Documentamos en detalle 130 de los casos de estos venezolanos deportados y encontramos que allí se cometió tortura sistemática. Los guardias y los distintos policías que operaron dentro del secó torturaron prácticamente todos los días a estos venezolanos con golpizas que incluían puños pero también con batones

constantemente incluso algunos llegando a ahogarse con su propia sangre por but also with batons constantly, even some of them even drowning with their own blood because of these tortures. It is really a very serious report because it speaks not only of the irresponsibility of the Salvadoran state, but also of the complicity of the Trump administration

of having sent to a place where the government itself knew that the risks of torture were supremely high as it actually happened.

Let me start from the beginning. Who were these 252 Venezuelans and why were they deported to the Secot, this maximum security prison in El Salvador? Why were they not deported to Venezuela?

Well, that question is very important. According to the government de Donald Trump, eran supuestamente terroristas, miembros de una organización criminal venezolana conocida como el Tren de Aragua. Nos dimos a la tarea de hacer una verificación de antecedentes penales en cada uno de los estados de Estados Unidos a nivel federal en Venezuela,

en los distintos países de América Latina donde habían cruzado, eso incluye Colombia,, Peru, Ecuador, and only 3% were convicted of violent crimes in the United States. In many cases, these people were fleeing the persecution of the regime of Nicolás Maduro, and even several of them reported fleeing organized crime,

precisely from attacks by the Aragua train and other criminales. Al menos 62 de ellos habían iniciado un proceso de asilo en Estados Unidos, incluso habían podido tener su entrevista de miedo creíble, y luego no tuvieron oportunidad de presentar su caso ante un juez de inmigración. Nuestra conclusión en esto es contundente.

Estos no eran personas pertenecientes a una organización criminal, y no eran definitivamente terroristas.

O sea, que la gran mayoría no tenían ningún tipo de récord criminal. Entonces, ¿cómo acaban en este grupo, Juanita? ¿Cómo se escoge a estos 252? ¿Por qué no otros? ¿Por qué ellos sí?

Es francamente aleatorio lo que nosotros podemos concluir, porque en algunos de los casos eran personas que habían llegado más recientemente, So, that's really what we can conclude, because in some cases they were people who had arrived more recently, in others they had been in the United States for a longer period of time. The only explanation we can find is, first, an economic agreement. documento que demuestra que hubo un pago de 4.7 millones de dólares por parte de Estados Unidos al gobierno salvadoreño para que acogiera a estas personas y una campaña propagandística. Ustedes recordarán la imagen de Kirsten Noem del Departamento de Seguridad Nacional grabando este video dentro del SECOT con varios de los presos salvadoreños, no así los migrantes

que a quienes ella había visto justo antes de grabar ese video y los migrantes que habían and we were able to film that cut with several Salvadoran prisoners, not like the migrants she had seen just before recording that video, and the migrants who had started to shout, we are migrants, we are not terrorists, we are not criminals, who were doing with their hands a letter L of freedom, which had even been cut and with blood they had written, freedom in different places.

Well, it's not there where they film, it's not that scene, the propaganda Migrantes a van a ver enfrentados a este tipo de tensión si buscaban ir a Estados Unidos Es francamente una campaña para a terrorizar a migrantes a lo largo y ancho de la región que típicamente están escapando regímenes autoritarios como el de Nicolás Maduro entre otros

Ayúdanos a poner todo esto en contexto en el momento en que estos 252 Venezuelanos son enviados al Salvador porque no, why is the government of Nicolás Maduro not receiving them?

Well, let's remember that at the beginning of the Trump government, there was, let's say, this tension between two possible policies facing Venezuela. On the one hand, the special envoy, Grenell, who had a bit of the task of making approaches to the Maduro government in the logic of exchanging oil access for the reception of migrants. Those conversations had generally failed with very low results. frente al gobierno Maduro en lógica de intercambiar acceso a petróleo por recepción de migrantes. Esas conversaciones habían fracasado en general con muy bajos resultados. Y por el otro lado, la política del secretario de Estado, Marco Rubio, de presión absoluta en contra de Venezuela, con lo que hemos venido viendo,

de declaratoria de narcotráfico al más alto nivel del régimen de the Nicolas Maduro regime, etc. Neither of these two strategies is well articulated or well synchronized, so the decision is made, Maduro in general, of not having received migrants in the different governments, that is, we are not going to receive them, except in specific moments in which Grinnell had advanced in

those oil negotiations in exchange for immigrants, and the decision of the US government at that time is to send them to El Salvador. I insist, when several reports, not only ours from Human Rights Watch, CristoSAL, the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, the Human Rights Report itself from 2023 from the State Department, already pointed out that there were cases of 2023 of the State Department, they already pointed out that there were torture cases within Salvadoran prisons,

and the State Department report itself says that there were conditions that could threaten the lives of the people detained in the Salvadoran prison system. That is, they knew where they were sending these people.

Help me get to the CECOT. When these Venezuelans arrive at the CECOT, how are they treated? Are they isolated or are they with the population in general? And what kind of treatment do they receive?

Well, they were in a module, which is module 8. They are different modules within the CECOT. Let's remember that this is a prison, a mega prison, which according to Bukele, has capacity for up to 40,000 people, which in reality, in the calculations we have made, even with architectural improvements through digital research,

would not have room for more than 20 people. But despite that, the Salvadoran government says it could have up to 40,000. And what we document is that it is precisely on arrival when some of the worst blows are given. a Quarantine, you know, Kudo Komen Thomas is K is Who's the man? The Ligata when the sedan was the last Peoris will pieces when they're gonna be

Stimulus time you gonna the de Soto Unidos al Salvador

Correcto is a just a mentor Deles de San Francisco more bienvenidos Al infierno is a just a mentor on the Last decent the akin Oana Salinas He knows in bolsas negras sus familiares no saben dónde están nadie nunca va a saber ustedes en qué situación están

y ahí arrancan una de las golpizas más duras insisto en lo que pudimos documentar la llegada al seco los momentos en los cuales después de que se dieron visitas posterior a la visita de kirsten oen posterior a las visitas del comité internacional de la cruz roja the to the punishment cells, known as the island, in the center of the module, some very small sectors of three by four meters with a cement bed where basically a person fits

and where those around could hear the screams and the calls for help of those who were there being beaten over and over again, I insist, with sticks, with hands, with fists, but also with legs. And one of the hardest things, those who were in the cells around

could hear the cries for help of those who were in this punishment cell and of course they suffered, and still today we have been told that they suffer the psychological effects of having seen and

heard how they tortured their companions. How long were they there and how did they leave the CECOT?

They were almost four months, they left the CECOT as a result of an agreement between the Bukele government and the government of Nicolás Maduro, as a result of which 252 Venezuelans were sent to Venezuela, 10 national or US residents who were in Venezuela were released by the regime of Nicolás Maduro, and additionally 66 Venezuelan political prisoners were released in that process. It is again a very serious fact because I insist, many of these people came from Venezuela fleeing from persecution. So one of the first concerns we had

is the risks they faced. We have a record today that when they arrived in Venezuela, they were questioned by the SEBIN, visited in their homes, that many of them are afraid of the reprisals, that they have been told that they cannot leave the country. To the question of whether tienen miedo de las represalias que les han dicho que no pueden salir del país a la pregunta de si quizás estuvieran pensando en volver a migrar tiene la instrucción del régimen de Nicolás Maduro de no poder salir del país y ellos están en muchos de los casos pasando hambre francamente no tienen un trabajo no tienen unas condiciones de bienestar

socioeconómico algunos de ellos están iniciando campañas de recolección de fondos para poder sobrevivir ahora que están de regreso en Venezuela economic, some of them are starting fundraising campaigns to be able to survive now that they are back in Venezuela.

Why did they talk to you, Juanita? How did you convince them to talk to this report?

Well, the first thing is that we have a long history of work, not only in El Salvador, but also in Venezuela. That is, we are not motivated by ideological or geopolitical logic. When there are human rights violations, we document them independently of the ideological talent. As in the past, we have documented the very serious human rights violations committed by the Nicolás Maduro regime. With the same concordance, we can do it against what has been the regime of exception of Bukele and what is doing in this practice a co-responsibility between the Trump government and the Bukele government in these violations.

But the second is because we protect their identities. These are people who are deeply afraid. So the report, what it does is that it details each of the cases, but it protects their identities.

But no names or identities. We don't know if they are. No, we protect their identity. I'll finish with this, Juanita. You have the report, it's called You've reached hell. What do you do with this report? How do things change? Would there be the danger of other Venezuelans or other immigrants in the United States ending up in El Salvador?

Well, the serious risk is precisely that. No one is safe. People who were fleeing a dictatorship end up sent to an authoritarian regime,

in isolation, in forced disappearance, without any information of their whereabouts, by a democracy like the United States, that sends them to a place where they know perfectly well that they will be tortured. What follows is a very clear incidence campaign,

first of all, so that the United States stops deporting migrants to countries where they can be tortured. Secondly, we demand that El Salvador stop torturing the prisoners in its prisons, including migrants, of course, but above all, it includes the 89,000 detainees in the framework of the regime, with the exception of absolute suspension of their fundamental guarantees. in suspension absoluta de sus garantías fundamentales. Y lo tercero, y es lo que quizás es más difícil,

pero sí, hoy es muy difícil pensar que el Departamento de Justicia de Estados Unidos inicie una investigación, pero vendrá un momento, como siempre sucede cuando se dan este tipo de gravísimos crímenes en el que el Departamento de Justicia

tiene que empezar una investigación transparente que llegue realmente a establecer responsabilidades transparent that it really establishes the responsibilities of these very serious crimes and above all orders reparations for these victims.

Now, the accusation that you are making, Juanita, of the Human Rights Watch, that there is torture in the Salvadoran prisons, I'm sure it will have a strong impact on the

government of President Nayib Bukele. You tried to talk to him. What ¿Qué respuesta recibieron del Salvador?

Por supuesto, como siempre hacemos con nuestros informes, le hicimos llegar nuestros hallazgos tanto al gobierno salvadoreño como al gobierno de Estados Unidos. ¿Qué dijeron? Hasta el momento, ninguno de los dos ha respondido.

¿Ninguno de los dos?

No, señor.

Ok. Okay, Juanita Gubertus, gracias por estar aquí y gracias por este informe, Ha llegado al infierno, de Human Rights Watch. Gracias.

Gracias a ti, Jorge. Un saludo a toda la audiencia.

Y esta es parte del informe de Human Rights Watch, en donde dicen que hay tortura sistemática en las cárceles de El Salvador. Tenemos sus comentarios y son los siguientes. El primero es de Ángela Veloz, dice lo siguiente, Commentary of the day. Commentary of the day. Commentary of the day. Commentary of the day. Commentary of the day. Commentary of the day. Commentary of the day.

Commentary of the day. Commentary of the dictator. If not, they kill you with hunger. The third comment we have is the following. The consumers pay for the tariffs. I don't understand why they say that money came in.

It's their own money circulating within the country. Indeed, the tariffs are paid first by the countries, but when those products reach our consumption, we are the ones who end up paying for them. Thank you for joining us. but when those products reach our consumption, we are the ones who end up paying for them. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us and thank you for supporting our journalism.