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The 1st Epstein files! MAGA's Bannon plotted to redeem 'monster' sex trafficker Epstein
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Right now, our new special report focuses on the newly revealed emails, specifically between Epstein, the deceased sex trafficker, and one of the most important people in Donald Trump's orbit, which matters now. Top Trump campaign and White House vet Steve Bannon. Bannon made 15 hours of video of Epstein for what he called a documentary, and this was in a key period, months leading
up to what we now know was his arrest and then death.
The future is for the way women think.
The way women think.
That's correct. Is that not a sop because of all the depravity you've done against young women?
Your new sop is that women's thinking is the future?
No, I've always believed that women would be in fact be able to take over. I'm a firm believer and supporter of Time's Up.
He's a supporter of Time's Up, he claims there. Many parties may now be extra interested in that video series or evidence. Bannon says he will release a film early next year. Epstein would also advise Bannon on his own message in media during a period when Bannon had left the White House on bad terms with Trump. He was trying to burnish his voice as some kind of global populist.
Number one, with populism, I think you're going to have people with much more control of their sovereignty and their citizenship, okay?
And I think in nationalism, what you're going to have is a collection of robust nations. The emails do not reveal whether Bannon could see the irony. Some might say hypocrisy of tapping one of the nation's most notorious coddled rich elites to advise him on the media around his so-called populism for the everyman. Now, much of Epstein's fortune remains a suspicious mystery. Indeed, we've talked to lawmakers who want to dig even deeper into his accounts and transfers
and how he got his money and why JPMorgan didn't issue the required suspicious activity reports until after his death. But we do know he frequently pitched himself as a business and tax expert. And we saw that in these new emails, newly newly revealed telling Bannon to respond to the tax cut criticism of Trump's plans by rebutting critics who say 83% goes to the rich
that's misleading he wrote telling Bannon you got to talk up cash back pension funds up and that while giving corporate breaks is perceived as giving to someone else wage inflation can't be the first focus. Now while those emails almost seem to unload some dry economic talking points, some other emails I'm about to read to you implicate Trump and have a gossipy, almost sort of cartoonishly sinister tone, except that we know how much serious bad stuff was going down. And Epstein seemed to use that type of banter with many.
And there was plenty of media advice. In August 2018, Epstein says he changed his travel plan so he could watch Bannon on TV, suggesting he already knew that this TV interview was coming up. We now see in the newly revealed emails
that Jeffrey Epstein tells Bannon, I took off early so I could land in time to watch. With a jet, you control your schedule. And then he asks, all good. The records show Epstein was watching Bannon's interview with me on MSNBC at the time.
We taped at his DC office. The newly revealed emails show these two commiserating on how it went. So here this was seven years ago, Bannon saying that his team, the Bannon team quote, loved it. I was too focused. He asked how did it come across? Because he wanted the view of this sex trafficker. Epstein replies based on the comments couldn't be better adding last 10 minutes more the real you.
Apparently Epstein felt credible telling Bannon that he really knew the real him. As for that final portion they were discussing in these newly revealed emails, here's a little bit of it.
I think you're going to see a complete civil war in the Democratic Party. It's going to clear the path for Donald Trump in 2020. The illegal immigration is nothing more than to try to suppress the wages of working class blacks and Hispanics. These guys are cranks. Nobody takes them seriously except the mainstream media.
It's MSNBC's camera and CNN's camera that gives them a platform. If you didn't pay attention to them, they would-
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Get started freeI'm ready to move on, but when you say that about the press, are you suggesting we shouldn't cover this killing and this second-degree murder trial? Emails show the men also focused on Bannon's appearance in that interview. Epstein writing, you looked so clean-cut next to him, I thought I turned on the figure skating channel by accident. Bannon replies it was his come-hither look.
And Jeffrey Epstein then replies in this newly exposed email, better than the usual come Hitler look. Bannon appeared to take that as a negative, replying, ouch. The two continued in that kind of banter. Bannon referred to the channel here. Again, we just are reporting the news, so I'm not weighing in. But he says it's the Soy Boy Network and that he wanted to be clean not sloppy.
Epstein replied closer to toy boy winky face. Now Bannon may have been referring to how Donald Trump publicly knocked him as quote sloppy Steve during their falling out earlier this year excuse me earlier that year I should say
Bannon's appearance and dress has come up in public more than most operatives, the way he wears his clothes and his demeanor. We're not making a point of that. I'm just telling you what they emailed about. Epstein was in on all kinds of references.
He talked about Trump figures that Bannon might see, referring to billionaire Trump supporter Peter Thiel being in town. Bannon should take no heat, re-me, not worth it for the moment, he advised. And in an email to journalist Michael Wolff, Epstein talks about seeing Bannon in London,
saying he seemed paranoid about any reporters seeing me
with him.
My guess is he's working hard on his relationship with Trump, who he sees as newly ascendant. And being seen with me may, and it's hard to get the exact implication here, but seem to affect that. And then he writes Bannon's media tour seemed with an eye
toward an audience of one. He talks about Bannon's right wing meetings in France and says, these guys seemed like idiots. He goes on to say, Bannon, surrounded by his own thuggish looking security people and wacky blogger advisors, thrives precisely
because the world of populism is so unprofessional, if not farcical. That is Jeffrey Epstein's dead hand in email trashing the guy who's his supposed ally and gives you another window into how these people all think they're conning each other, whether Mr. Bannon has noticed or found out that that's his view. We don't know, but as I mentioned, the idea of having Jeffrey Epstein be your populist
advisor was odd to begin with. The emails show Epstein emailed a lot with author Michael Wolff. That's gotten a lot of attention in certain quarters, which is part of the media strategy he was plotting with Bannon. Let me show you something else as part of our report. There's an email that has not actually gotten much attention and understandably like I said there's 20,000 of these, but look at what happens, you're
kind of going inside in real time when Epstein learns that all of his fancy talk media outreach to Wolf was on the key issue for him, a failure, and maybe hurt Bannon too. He writes to Bannon, quote, I've now seen some of Wolf's book. Mentions me and underage prostitutes. Let me repeat that. That's the thing they were working to quiet down, minimize, or lie about.
Quote, mentions me, Epstein writes, and underage prostitutes. You is the man behind and in front of the curtain, lots of Steve quotes, lots. Bannon appears to see the problem, replying, ugh, anything awful? Wish he hadn't done that. Why are you mentioned at all?
You rarely get this kind of view. There's no public bluster or spin here. We just see two self-styled strategists admitting their whole media outreach strategy failed. This was Epstein's main vulnerability, underage sex crimes, boosted to new visibility in a book that
spent about two months atop the bestseller list in a period of Trump mania in America. There were many people in politics and beyond who were reading about Epstein for the first time in that context because of the book. Epstein then replied to Bannon's question, noting Wolff wrote about the Palm Beach House
purchase and how Epstein and Trump may have had a fight about that, saying, don't reach out to Michael. Well, if he meant Michael Wolff, it's a little late for that. The book is out. Epstein also detailed money laundering allegations against Trump to Wolff, who, that's the author now says Epstein has also worried that his whole original Florida probe, where he ultimately got a sweetheart deal but was the first legal problem that set in motion these events.
Wolff says Epstein seemed to have the fear, paranoia or belief that it came from Donald Trump reporting him to the cops as payback, dropping a dime. To be clear, that's a theory that could explain Epstein's anger at Trump if that's his belief. There's no public corroboration of it so it may not be at all true but Wolf says that's what Epstein believed which fueled an anger that you can see across these emails and if you care about the truth you do have to look at
whether someone is so angry that it might change how accurate they are But it was on display and Epstein's claims that more than the feds or Mueller was a big deal that year He Epstein was the one able to take Trump down Epstein had faced a lot of legal heat but by 2019 Epstein and his lawyers who were some of the highest priced top lawyers you could get and I've told you he had him from both parties They all could see things were at a new level highest priced top lawyers you could get, and I've told you he had them from both parties. They all could see things were at a new level.
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Get started freeIn fact, just one week before Epstein's 2019 arrest, as he pondered his own supposed leverage over President Trump, who oversaw the DOJ that he knew was probably closing in, he was thinking about it. And even though he'd trashed Bannon, as I showed you, and his unprofessional populism and his wacky bloggers and his weird security, again, I'm paraphrasing what Epstein said,
of all people then, a week out, who did this sex trafficker reach out to? Donald Trump's guy, Steve Bannon, to talk about Trump. And he wrote, quote, Now you can understand why Trump wakes up in the middle of the night sweating
when he hears you and I are friends. It's quite a claim. And if it had come out only back then, it might have sounded like some possibly overblown assertion by a paranoid con man, sex trafficker to his political buddy who was something of more of an outcast at the time.
Something many might just dismiss if you care about assessing the facts. But here we are, a long seven years later. Donald Trump's many, many efforts, now failed efforts, to hide the Epstein evidence puts that secret claim in at least a different light. Epstein claimed in private and in the message he didn't know would ever be on TV that Donald Trump was more nervous about this than anything else. And now, for all these years later, that is pretty much how
Donald Trump has been acting in public. Perhaps it is fitting that we only know Donald Trump has been acting in public. Perhaps it is fitting that we only know about that claim because some of these Epstein files are already starting to
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