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What if a patient is not satisfied with the treatment?

But now, the treatment is more for business, not for the people's interest. He makes a beautiful business, he tries to get a raise, how to even provide therapy that is not in line with the patient's needs. Why are you doing this? Why are you fooling your patients? That's a lie. He said, yes, I follow my superior.

Doctor, you came again with a patient. What's wrong, Doctor?

What else and who else? This patient, ladies, yes, Bang Densu, I'm products that are dangerous. What products are used? So it contains dangerous substances, so it's Haki and Mercury. Mercury? Correct. Wait, what's the name of the black one? We can call it Onchronosis, but it's a long term, it can be Onchronosis or Flag. But if it's Onchronosis, it's a long term . This is Flag, but if it is continued, it will become onchronosis, so it's more black, more gray. It's hard to get rid of.

If it's laser, it's multiple times.

No, it's not allowed. It's not allowed. It's not allowed. It's not allowed to be laser.

Yes, it's not allowed.

It's not allowed. It's not allowed. So the treatment is from the, just do the skincare, don't do invasive treatments. If we do invasive treatments, which are extreme aggressive, with laser, it's extreme, it's burned, it's worse.

But there are some who are a little bit red with the laser, right? A little red, see? After that, it gets more and more sunburn. So actually, the logic medically if in this condition, can it be laser or not?

no, it shouldn't

no, it can't

point, right?

it should not be laser

point, right?

point

point, right?

but it depends on the interests of each entrepreneur because buying laser equipment is quite expensive

so, Punten, what's your name?

Resti

Resti Resti? Resti Punten, how did it start?

It started with laser treatment

Oh

Yes, laser treatment, then cream Then cream, and it turned out that there was a leg in there

The cream that was blue?

Yes

Punten, so what did you want to do?

No, at first, because there was a little flake

Okay

Because at first I wanted to remove the flake

Where was the flake at first?

Just a little bit here

Here?

Yes, because I wanted to remove it Well, finally laser treatment Laser?

What do you remember the name of the laser? I forgot Then after that, you were given cream

After you used it and got treatment, how many days or months later did you notice that it was getting worse? At that time I was suspicious, why is my face so white? I don't want to be white

White?

Yes, my face is a bit white, but I don't think it's good

What do you mean?

The white is not good for me what do you mean? the white color is not good but it's white yes it's not a coincidence my husband was sick 3 days without using the cream

the black spot was gone so the indication is the black spot after he didn't use the cream after how many days?

3 days the black spot was gone I didn't realize it at that time it turns out that if there is a Hakea's content, it is sensitive to sunlight that's right

that's what I didn't know just play it just play it I knew it

it's bad

after that, I saw the photo it's worse after that, I saw a picture worse than this

were you stressed? I was stressed for 2 months, I didn't want to go out you were affected by the psychology yes, the psychology you cried? my husband was told not to go home

because we went home once a week so when that happened, I told my husband not to go home for a week So when that happened, I told him not to go home, I was embarrassed

Yes, all the mental defense was gone, everything was gone What did you think at that time?

That my face would be like this forever Actually, I was more to the market Are you ready to accept? Yes. Market, because it's not what is it, not against me to protest or anything like that. Well, I just often see, including Docty, if this is right, oh yes, he said it should be basic, basic. I just looked for the basics until about 2 basic, basic, I just looked for basic until about

two or three months, I just looked for it because I was scared. But there is progress with his business or he still stays there. Yes, it's okay, finally there is still wearing a mask, a mask, just like that. Yes, but the effect is already left, the rest is left, right? the burn is still there, a little more the heartache is still there

oh that's a lot

how much was the treatment?

how much?

for laser, how much was the total laser?

if the laser is not included, it's only about 1.5 because I just got it once is it the same as the cream? I don't know if it's included, but it's only about 1.5 dollars. Because I only went once.

Is it the same as the cream?

No, not yet.

So, it's about 2.5 dollars?

No, the cream is not too expensive.

Then, why did you go there?

Were you tempted by the price?

Yes, that's one of the reasons. I was invited.

The discount is good

it's normal

it's normal, so you're stronger in people's suggestions

yeah, like that who suggested you?

just a lot of friends friends, have you ever tried? there are some, because I just found out oh, he turns out he wears an umbrella everywhere I didn't realize it at that time he wears an umbrella everywhere

I was like, what is he doing? but his face is great his face is really white

but he wears an umbrella everywhere yeah, right

if you say, the worst, because there is the cream, right? Yes, that's right.

Are there many such effects in society from your experience?

Every day I always get patients like this.

Every day?

Every day. And not just one or two, it can be five patients a day. And it's been years. So tired, Bang Dennis. So the appearance of this Doctiv is one of the reasons why I'm tired of accepting patients like this. Our clinic is not a beauty clinic, but a workshop clinic.

A workshop to fix your face?

Yes, a workshop to fix your face.

But you get paid.

Yes, but Doctif is really made for that. So, if you look at the budget, sometimes we support it, we don't pay. But sometimes we pay for the support, but I pay for the cream. So, actually, when we talk about the skincare world, sorry to say, it's a business thing. If you look at the current trend, how bad is it?

It's really bad. So maybe the orientation is a bit shifted. Not to humiliate my colleague, I. Deng Cuya here, I don't want to, but I see that now the direction is more purely to business, so not for the interest of the people.

Yes.

Yes, just like yesterday I was in trouble with my client. Yes, that's also because one of them is over-claimed product sales and only think about Q1, money. So now the doctor is shifting to that, although it's not all oknum. There are still many doctors who are still idealistic, they still want to help the patient.

Let me ask, if you flex like that, do you like to be eaten?

No.

If you don't? No. But this is affected in the end. Because I want to get rid of the flex first, right? that's not flexing, because if flexing, it's not

that's not edible

oh but this one from the talk

because, sorry, because I trust more because behind it there is a professional profession so the doctor's profession so I trusted the doctor's profession it turns out maybe maybe D. Maybe he thought the science wasn't like that. Maybe he thought the flag could be lost with laser.

Any laser can't be used to treat a small flag.

But the effect is terrible.

Maybe the heart content is also very high. So yesterday, the doctor found that he used Bepom, there is a Bepom number, it turns out that the heart content is at number 7. That's very high, usually if the doctor is at number 2-4. Well, 7 is definitely broken, but the white is very fast.

Yes.

Very fast white and it will be what is called skin thinning.

Yes.

Skin barrier is broken

broken

Must use a Vesus mask

Why did I become a promo? This is a question, if the beauty clinic is really that Does it all use the right medical standards?

According to your experience Mostly not for now

Now, why can that happen?

On the one hand, they buy tools that also come out of a large capital.

And it's easier, you know. How can it be easier?

Yes, the rules, maybe. The rules of the tight. So products can enter usually without there is, what we call it, reporting to the health service. So it doesn't report the number of health equipment.

Yes.

And again, the one I admit is a doctor, it turns out he was from Vietnam, from abroad, he was employed in a clinic. Now there are a lot of them, Bang Deniso. Oh, how is that? So he is a UNA, especially from Vietnam. Now the doctor is studying the UN and he did operations

operations which actually the SOP is not like that

no, because the doctor is not a doctor and he is from Vietnam he is not a doctor? no he is a normal person from Vietnam so maybe he was a nurse when he was brought here yes, that's it

and the price is cheap and he promoted it on Instagram Oh, he eats the one who doesn't know, right, then after that, the operation, for example, the operation in the hotel Yes, I know, that's right, there are a lot of victims and a lot of victims until finally the nose is infected, it was slanted yes I saw it yesterday it was true until it came out

there is a video

there is a video

yes yes

that's real

that's real done by a beauty clinic and right now there are a lot of victims and the doctor also asked Mr. Deng Su to bring the victim Mr. Deng Su can see for himself poor thing

yes

the future is ruined

yes

he is not confident anymore. He's broken. His nose is broken. And the funny thing is, the clinic changed management. And they didn't admit that it was the clinic's work.

So that he could pass the legal examination.

Right. Right. Amazing. Now, Dutif sees that there are very few doctors who still hold a very strong idealist. It's very rare to find. So the point is, yes, he makes a beautiful clinic, he will try to get a patent, whatever the way, even provide therapy that is not in accordance with the needs of the patient. Like that.

So it's a bit difficult. A bit difficult, can't. One simple recommendation, how to see, like, this is okay, how to look at it? Like, is this okay? How to look at it using this? So, maybe first, the doctor never did a flexing promotion. Because it's not allowed, the ethics are not allowed for the doctor to do flexing.

Yes. That's the ethics, right? If he's flexing, it means the ethics are broken. Yes. How about other ethics? That's it. The one, maybe treatment.

So we see if the price is still reasonable or not. We see it, for example, a doctor who has been a doctor for 19 years, a doctor is offered a clinic called clinic. There is a mini stem cell, the price is was 15 million.

The doctor was 19 years old, he had never heard of a mini stem cell.

Maybe he didn't know much.

Maybe he didn't know much.

Was it informed?

At one point, the doctor was curious, so he came to the clinic. He wanted to be the patient. The doctor came there, he wanted to be the patient, and after meeting the doctor, the doctor said, I'm sorry, Doc, that's not a stem cell, that's a secretum.

Because he knew the doctor? He knew.

If he didn't know the doctor, he wouldn't have said it was a secretum. Right, right. So the doctor asked, why are you doing this? Why are you fooling your patients? That's a lie. He said, yes, I'm following, I'm sorry. Hold on, Doc. Maybe not everyone knows what secretome is. What is secretome?

Secretome is the final result of the stem cell. So, actually, it's the waste. It's the waste. In medical school, it's the waste. Correct. And it can be used. But the result is not like the stem cell.

And it's injected to the brain, not to the infuse. So, it's just. For example, the ratio is only 10%.

10%?

It can't be as maximum as stem cells. There is still.

Okay, and it's injected, right?

Injected by IM. If infused? No, it's a stem cell. And stem cells are very difficult. It must be done in the main clinic with an ICU facility. ICU, because it can cause anaphylactic, it can cause allergies. Yes, and he needs tools to handle it. While the clinic does a stem cell injection, Prathama Clinic, that has also been affected by SOP.

If the condition is like this, can it still be helped in any way?

So we go back to basic skincare and use skincare that is not over claimed. Okay, example example well, the product that the doctor brought is from New Lab it contains 1% hexyl resorcinol

I don't understand, which one is that?

here it contains 1% hexyl resorcinol

okay

based on clinical trials so there is a reset Hexyl Resorcinol 1% Equals 4% Hydroquinone Here it is

And there is a lab test So it's not over claimed, it's really 1% Have you made it solid? Yes, automatically

Whatever you touch, it must have passed the reset But don't let there be indications oh, he's endorsed, because he's endorsed

he's lying, no, the doctor can't lie

if you use this, it's with the condition our face has experienced severe irritation we go back to basic skin care

what is this function for? it helps to prevent melanin pigments skincare. Yes. salmon is not a fish, it's a salmon with real DNA so here we have a real salmon with DNA so this patient can use this every night but he must use sunscreen with SPF minimum 30 which is repeated 3-4 times a day why?

because the effect will disappear after 2 hours that's what usually causes failure during the treatment of melasma

Oh

So why are you lazy to use sunscreen? Lazy to repeat Right?

Yes

Right, Bang Dainysu? Lazy to repeat, lazy to apply Understand, understand

Because it's the habit that eventually becomes a hindrance, right?

Right Okay, after that, what other actions should be done? And it can also be accompanied by drinking Yes Yes, there is also drinking Okay, now set a light to a polygon to the county house deal a cook on Then you got this I decided on a mini-meet me a yeah, yeah, I don't mean I'm a yoga. Oh, yeah Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean glue glue Glutathione Nah, you see me got a tomato and he does ticker. Yeah, I'm

Gonna check the

Man, you know, I see ya check first there is no experience sticker what is this? so here is the SA-Cetirglutathione SA-Cetirglutathione this is the highest glutathione yes so the highest highest?

yes in Indonesia and in Indonesia, this is the new lab that made

why can it be like that?

yes this is why this formula is also by Doctive

it tastes like it has a taste

and the sugar is zero oh zero sugar

ok, but functionally it is good for

skin? yes, it can help also block the melanin pigment from inside it can help to make the skin brighter more glowing

and it helps to work our body organs work better

but not instant?

no, no one uses instant if you want instant, use a dangerous one if you want it to be safe, no side effects, then you need a process

if there is a claim that with this treatment, with this product, your skin will be white for 7 days

yes, it must contain mercury 100% or 100% 100% 1000% even No one is instant at least he needs time 2 weeks 1 month to 3 months what makes you angry I mean, with all your efforts in educating the community In the area of ​​skin care in the area of ​​products, all kinds of what makes you angry? At that time, you explained to my customers, give me a chance

So this is how it is, Bang Dan, Doktif is angry This is the skin care owners, especially those who do marketing flexing Doktif has reported it The report is usually to Poldamitrujaya Alhamdulillah, for example Dotif reported With products that white tomato, salmon DNA and stem cells that are inserted into the female's area That's the proof

Stem cells inserted into the area?

Correct, so he sells products Yes, what he said was stem cells inserted into the female's area That's right, the one below So it's like a ballpoint pen, there's liquid in it, it's inserted there Later, that's right. The bottom part. Like a ballpoint pen. You put the liquid in there. Then you spray it. But is that true?

There's no stem cell. That's a lie. It's not there.

What's the function of putting it in there?

It's just for moisturizing. It's just for a funny thing. To moisturize and then remove the bad smells. That's all. But his claim, he said that it contains stem cells, that's a form of deception. The goal of Doktiv is one, Doktiv wants to make the community smarter, smarter.

Yes.

By what? By showing facts by data, by showing the results of the lab. Yes. And Doktiv has reported these actors to the Mitrojaya polder. Well, if someone doesn't like it, it's normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were paid by A, B, and A. But there's no proof.

Seriously?

There is. There is. So there is indeed what is called, or for example, in TikTok there is what is called fake viewer. So to make it look crowded, he will pay people to watch. So later it looks like the audience is 10,000, 20,000. That is the viewer. That's the viewership.

It's called fake viewership. It's provided. It's there. There's another one called fake comment. So, per comment, it's paid. There's 2,500, per 5,000, it's paid. So, it's like there's a shareholder.

It's crowded.

It's all marketing techniques that are already used in the era of today's TikTok. But Doctif never used it. Even Doctif was accused of using a buzzer, Bang Denso, but Doctif returned 1 billion.

1 billion?

For anyone who can prove Doctif once rented a buzzer.

Ah, 1 billion from Doctif, 1 billion rupiah. Who can prove Doctif using a buzzer, got 1 billion, right? Yes, Cash. You're holding it?

Yes.

And it never happened. Until now, it's been a long time.

I want to ask the public. As a person who became a victim, if you see people like this,

what is actually in your head?

I just like it more.

Oh, you like it?

What do you like?

I like the. Oh, you like it? I like it. What do you like? I like the excitement.

Okay.

Because we as a society can't do anything.

We don't have any backing. Like what happened yesterday, I can only rely on it. I just want to ask, if you look at influencers, they promote something, Doc.

Is it 100% that the influencer knows what is being promoted or is it just according to

the doctor, the doctor know what he is promoting? Or is he just a doctor? He's just a talent. On average, maybe as a talent. So he's not too... Right.

So, that's why I want to remind you, for the influencer friends, because you have a duty, moral responsibility, to remind you, my fellow influencers, that you have a moral obligation, a moral responsibility to promote something, you should learn it first.

So, at least, use it first. So, he can feel it himself. If it turns out to be inappropriate, not good, then don't accept it. For example, he is endorsed. Like that, there is a moral responsibility

that we give to the community, that is trusted by the community.

Well, for example, as an influencer, I use this, I'm not suitable anymore, right? But this is not a dangerous product.

Yes.

Can I still promote it?

Can the owner not give the result of what is claimed?

Oh, so it's a bit vague, right?

Yes, if it's adoptive, how can you suggest like that? yes, but it's true yes, as long as it turns out that it can be like this, this is the result of the research, it is 1% booked in the lab then what else is there to look for? but how long has the doctor been?

the suitable ones have been used for 2 weeks

so every time you talk about a product that you recommend or you do a research, you try it first

try it first, how does it feel, how does the texture look, so you know, so you can talk so confident to talk too, confident so not all influencers use the products that are promoted, right?

not all

Dr. Tiff said here, Dr. Tiff has no grudge against any brand owners. So, what I want to say is that their products are not in line with their claims. That's all, Mr. Densu. That's all. And every product I promote is a brand that I have tested in a lab and I have used it independently.

And I bought it with my own money. I tested it you bought it with your own money

you test it with your own money Have you ever, Doc, you were offered a product but you know the product is not suitable or not good the point is maybe it can be bad or something but they offer you certainly money so you can still promote it

Have you ever experienced that?

I have, but I don't want to. Oh, you have? I have, but I can't. Why? Because the product is just standard. There's nothing special about it. And it's just normal.

So what's the point?

The money is not bad, because the money... We're talking about money.

No, you can't. That's just small money. 50 billion was rejected, now the comparison is just like that. Do you have a lot of money? No, don't look at everything from money. Happiness is not all from money. And the doctor already has a job, already has a clinic, already has a business. And trusted. So it's actually better to have small money but blessings. Rather than big money but bringing disaster to ourselves, brings danger to us.

We must accept it. Yes, I hope his intention can produce, what else is called, a good for the future. What is your hope for the skincare world in Indonesia in the future? So, for the order for a real businessman, responsible with the product he sells.

Okay.

Yes, dare to put the results of the lab test to the community, dare to be responsible with the product and composition, and don't easily give excessive claims, for example, white claims, 3 days, white, 7 days, that's impossible, white, white, white, white, white, usually we are told not to be white,

7 days is impossible, yes, yes impossible so don't don't give excessive claims or false promises to the consumer and for the consumer be smart, once there is

a promise like that, skip it why? because to get glowing clean skin, it takes time

but now, like a doctor there is a collaboration with Neolab, because it also helps some consumers who are experiencing problems. Yes, if the collaboration is like this, the doctor is more like a rider or SOP, like can I check your product first?

Is there anything like that?

If for example this is a formulation by the is by Doctive, so it is special to New Lab. This formulation is also by Doctive, so we formulate it ourselves.

Do you have a stock in New Lab?

No.

Why is your formulation there?

I want to. So, if Doctive makes it public, it's not yet able. Oh, I see. So, Doctive is't been made in Indonesia. So you're talking to the boss of New Lab? Yes, that's right. Let's make it. This is very famous in Korea.

It's very famous, SACTL Glutathione. Oh, this one? Yes. Why don't we just make it in Indonesia? Usually we buy it abroad. Finally, the owner is very easy. I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a

I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a but world record muri yes, bang densu lose i have muri but indonesia muri this is world record why he can get muri? so, thank god

new lab really appreciate what doctor tiff do to fight over cream and other skin care so, in the same day it's 1703 affiliate

sell together to sell products from New Lab.

Okay, one of them is this one?

Yes.

Okay.

That's it. And it's in a rapid way. And it never happened in the world.

Oh.

So, New Lab is the one that can break the world record. Wait, I want to ask. Why has it never happened? Is there any difficulty when doing that? Well, maybe to coordinate with thousands of affiliates, it's also difficult.

We'll just call the boss.

Yes, sure.

Where is the boss?

The boss who never flexes.

Bring the record, boss.

Is the boss married yet?

Huh?

Huh? Are you married?

Not yet.

You're not married yet?

I'm not married yet. Come here married? I'm not getting married yet

I'm not getting married yet

Welcome

Thank you for coming

You're not married yet?

Why are you so formal?

Just kidding

We brought this

Yes, we brought this

When did you get this?

A few days ago, Doc. A week ago.

Around 1600-1700? 1703. 1703.

Affiliate, right.

That has never been done all over the world. Right.

So, there must be difficulties, right? There must be difficulties. What difficulties did you encounter at that time? First, we were not confident. I mean, we were with the doctor, we tried to educate the community,

but how to make the gossip more widespread. At first, we were also a bit pessimistic, how to invite Indonesian affiliates? It turned out that at first, we were challenged for Rp 1,500. Wow, hearing the number of Rp 1,500, how is it educative?

How to gather Indonesian affiliates together, we both make a breakthrough, to educate the community. But it turned out that yesterday, surprisingly, Rp 1,703. Why is that? It means that the community is against, but surprisingly, it was 1,703 why?

so the trust of the community towards this brand is high

Alhamdulillah, maybe that's it but if I can say, the effort is amazing it's not easy to gather so many affiliates to have the same mission.

How long has New Lab been around?

New Lab was here in early 2019.

2019.

So, it's been around 7 years.

But honestly, when I hear New Lab, I hear good things. Okay, good. Thank you. So, I heard New Lab is very consistent when he built the brand I was surprised there was a point where I saw, why did New Lab go there? but it turns out New Lab immediately turned around understand yes, but I don't need to discuss

then I saw New Lab he didn't really follow the FOMO trend that's a big question for me why? because the money was there.

I agree, if I may say, if you want to follow the viral ones, it's very tempting. Especially in the world of TikTok. The money is there. But on the other hand, we actually see this in a long term. Because if we can say, our customers can be a mother of one, a brother of one,

then a brother of one, and so on. Well, we always put ourselves as our customers from the beginning. Don't let us disappoint our customers. But there are two types of owner characters I see. Some people prefer money-oriented. Some people prefer long-term.

So, which one are you? We prefer long-term. Why? Moral burden. Moral burden. Good name? Good name, definitely. Moral burden, that's for sure. Why? Like, my mom herself, when she bought skincare, she said, the neighbors said it's good, the aunt said it's good,

so she just used it, and so on.

Yes, from what people say.

Right, from what people say.

This woman also from what people say. Yes, yes, and from that experience, Bang. I mean, my mom herself had experienced, got what's called overclaim. In the end, until now, there is still melasma. Really? Yes, that's right. Even now, there are still some problems, even though it's reduced, because we have treatment and so on.

And that's sad, isn't it? It's sad too.

It's sad too. That's why, from our side, our mindset is always there. So we don't want to disappoint the customers in Indonesia, the people in Indonesia. Especially since we are a local product. I mean, we are really proud here, local products, we want local products to be the master of our own country. But if we are the ones who disappoint, it's not something to be proud of. Okay, so it's more about morals, good name, and from the heart, right?

But if the clinic itself, is there a new lab? No, not yet.

So it's more about the product?

More about the product.

Why don't you create a clinic? That's the question.

Amen, hopefully in the future. Hopefully in the future. But until now, we had a planning to go there. But maybe for now, it's more towards the product first. Yes. Oh, so you always look from the fundamentals of what you build. So if you focus to the product, you focus on the product first.

The clinic later. So you want to be sustainable with a long enough timeline have you ever had a mother who came to use your product and had a problem? have you ever experienced that condition? if it's a problem, the skin of a person, there must be something sensitive and so on there must be something that are not suitable and so on but that's why we are from the beginning

especially for example, the one we formulated one of them is the body lotion hexyl resorcinol it's already 1% hexyl in it

is it here?

this one, there is 1% hexyl resorcinol too then there is also 8% niacinamide This is very high in content So if you are not used to body lotion, maybe the skin is sensitive Maybe there is a little bit of it, maybe there is a tingling But it's not a bad thing, right?

Right, but it's normal, it's not what makes people broken and so on. Well, if there is a condition like that, what should be avoided? For us, it's usually to brake, in quotes, not every day, maybe twice, three times.

Right.

Brake, reduce.

Right. And later slowly, but if it's still not okay, just stop it first.

Right, right.

Fair. Okay, if you guys, what kind of branding do you want to be known for? What do you want to be known for? If I may say, New Lab is all about science-based products. So, it's not based on viral or what's hype and stuff, but we're here to try to guess what science is developing, which is good and stuff. One example is hexyl-resinol, so if you can say that for our lotions, this is the first in Indonesia too, the first in Indonesia to use hex hexylethylcinol, usually it's in the face skincare, because the price is really expensive from the ingredients, but we are here trying to figure out how to meet the pocket of the community, but on the other hand, it can also meet in terms of function, effectiveness

how?

yes, of course, we are, how to try to... You cut your profit?

Of course.

Because I cut my profit. Of course. Because it's an investment. I mean, don't let us get familiar with the overclaim and so on.

We always focus on the claims. We try to make sure that the claims overclaim and so on. We are always focused, if our claims are like that, we try to make sure that we are in accordance with the claims.

Why don't you use marketing overclaim? If it's true, it's impossible. A fool doesn't understand. Marketing overclaim can get a lot of things. Why don't you use that kind of... Maybe if I can say,

back to my bank, not me, the team, all of us see the customer as our own family. So with that mindset, we will definitely give the best to our own family. So if we want to overclaim, maybe it can be very easy, especially social media.

Yes, and it already has a name, right?

Yes, amen. Oh, 7 years. 7 years. It's been easy, especially on social media. And it's already got a name, right? Yes, Amin.

Oh, 7 years.

7 years.

It's been a long time.

And, Bang, this is also, what's the name, it's clear, this is not dangerous. Do you often see girls whose skin breaks, TREACHMAC, because of the use of mercury? Often, often. So the skin becomes thin, then because he's it, it will break. That's permanent, it's very difficult to remove. That's what comes to the doctor's clinic every day. That's why the doctor made this, this is one of the ones that he doses, a high dosage.

Many body lotions claim to be dosed, but it turns out that it's not a high dosage, but he overclaimed it. This is really a high dosage So don't use it in the morning and at night Usually recommended only at night In the morning, he uses body lotion with SPF

Okay, but the price is closed Not bad, I mean for the public pocket Maybe not all people will be interested in the price

No, for the price it is affordable

Still very affordable

Compared to a container like this, it's very affordable. It's very premium.

As premium as it's hard to open. As premium. There's a question from a netizen. Why did you choose the education path? Until it was published in the World Record Museum and Indonesia. Why did you choose that path?

If I may say, honestly, if we know that, social media is extraordinary at this time, there are a lot of trends, like over claim, beauty standards, etc. But with a lot of information like this,

we actually see that it makes the community more confused.

Okay.

But from the point of view of education, education ...

Why? the society is getting more confused but from the education point of view the education is ...

why?

this is also made by Dr. Tief Bang Densu cool right? I swear I'm talking this is lotion?

good stuff the price is not bad right? if it can be said for the product, it's not bad

It's only around 160k, it's not bad

It's premium for me That's right, because there's hexyl resorcinum in it When you use it, there's a cold sensation Then it goes straight into the skin It means that the composition is already calculated for the skin of Indonesian people So many people make skincare, they don't pay attention to the skin of Indonesian people So many people make skin care

they don't pay attention to the type of skin of a specific area So it's taken from outside

Wow, it's good from outside

Yes, it's a product

Oh, this is the skin of Indonesia that comes in My knowledge is quite good Well, the question from the public is Why can Doctive trust Neulab?

Okay, the first one is the owner's character

This one? first is the owner this one?

so you are the realtor? yes, who is the owner? and the product is already famous and the product is good, so I often buy it and it's good, right? and I also like the checklist

and then, I was like, who is the owner? so you were curious about the owner? because the owner never appeared

that's also a question on TikTok

Yes, that's right

Who is this owner of New Lab who never appears? It turns out that the character is actually very introverted Yes, I heard he's an introvert But after being with Doctyf, he finally dared to appear

Is there two or one owner? Actually there are two people You and one more, right?

Yes

But what often happens to with Doctive is this. Okay. And finally, the introvert is now half introvert and exovert.

Okay, because it's already affected by you, right?

Yes, it's already affected by Doctive.

You see the character, what can you conclude from the character?

The person wants to receive critical advice.

Oh, that's good.

Right, very humble, never shows off, never speaks high, never. Very humble. never show off, never talk high, never very humble and his mission is really to give quality products

you can see that?

yes, sell quality products especially when Dokter collab, it's even more you can really see his character because we know whether it's good or not after we do business together so Dokter after seeing his character

means in terms of vision, mission, energy, it's suitable, right? So, continuing from all of this, actually, New Lab's hope for the future is definitely working with Doctive You're pretty brave working with him

Oh yeah

Because we don't know yet, Doctive

Don't be wrong

What's wrong? Doctive, even though we often collaborate,

Doctive also tests our products.

Oh, really?

Yes. Suddenly, it's like, ding!

But did he ever find a product that... I'm sorry, I'll finish my narration first. Wow, this is a problem. Let me try to contact him personally. Have you ever?

No, I haven't.

True. If, for example, Doctive tests, I'm also surprised, suddenly he likes to be given a chat. Did you ever? Never True, when Doktiv was testing I was surprised too, they gave me a chat

I've tested in China

Privately?

Private, and I didn't know Suddenly they gave me a test

I was like, wow, amazing

Before you guys worked together and so on? Before and even after

I was like, still

So if he did something wrong

You still just go for it? I'll still buy it

Because this is moral When Doty wants to promote something, there must be a responsibility So make sure it's really good quality

So who was the founder of New Lab?

Melly Melly was the founder in early 2019 But Melly herself was from high school. She used to sell beauty products, but she used to import them. She asked, why do Indonesians love to brighten their skin, but most of their products are imported? After that, she worked, she studied, then worked, we met in the same company. Then he resigned.

Then he started New Lab. Where do you expect from New Lab?

Five years from now, New Lab.

If it's five years from now, New Lab, we will not stop for education. We will not stop for innovation and education. Because, if I may say, from the education side, I mentioned earlier, where social media is getting more and more popular, Doc. There is a lot of information that is confusing,

we don't know which is right and which is wrong. With that, education is getting less and less. This is what the community really needs to answer the confusion of the people. So, if we can say, our work, New Lab, or maybe other brand friends, is how to keep educating the people to always be critical. That's it. And also innovate. Because, again, the development of science is now extraordinary, Doc.

I mean, the development of science is no longer the same as before. Difficult information is obtained, and so on. So, we always compare it to what is called science development is not like before, the information is hard to get and so on.

So we always compare it to science development. Okay. So that's actually the message and vision that I want to try to achieve. But to achieve it, it's hard to ask for forgiveness.

It's not easy.

Tired, plus the test, oh my God, the collection of two tests.

Don't, don't, don't.

No, yes. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it.

I'm not sure if I can do it. I want to be honest, don't let the people think that we are not smart, we don't understand Actually, the people are not not smart, it's easy to be fooled by the price of the promo, with a good image, with a strong filter with a strong filter maybe that's it maybe for me if it's like that

it's not good but if we don't know like this this is already Bepo we buy it

but it's not true, it turns out the taste is fake

often many things are cheated, small things full question for Dr. Tv, what is the biggest lie in the world of skincare that people don't know?

so in promoting the product, it uses an extraordinary filter. That's one.

Yes.

Yes. Then, gimmick marketing. Gimmick marketing.

Dirty gimmick marketing.

So he is given a promise that later if the buyer will get a gold bar. Yes, for this later, for the first five buyers will be given a gift of angpao, for example.

Yes, yes, yes.

Yes, then it will gift of umroh all of that is a lie, they give you an iPhone it turns out that the iPhone is only the box the display, right? they give you an iPhone, but it's only the box

maybe there is but the one that doesn't exist is more

maybe there is, but yes but it seems impossible how much profit, but he can give an iPhone different from the promotion, New Lab, for example, New Lab, we give the promotion, we give the normal one, we give the dispenser we give the metal, but the original is sent rather than we give what gives hallucination to the consumer, but it never exists, it's just dirty marketing techniques people have to be smart

and never be fooled by being told that it's fast white the but it will damage your skin love your skin your skin health is much more valuable than buying products like that ok oh there's more from New Lab so New Lab will work with

retailers so there will be they will exchange their products with products from the new lab which later Dotty will work with and also be given sunscreen from Dogpiff

that's for free, so they will exchange

so they have products, the products are paid

so it will come, maybe you can tell us so for friends at home who already have night cream or night serum that over claim, it can come to later maybe informed or night serum that is over claimed it can come to, maybe later it will be informed over claimed and dangerous

over claimed and dangerous, it can come to the locations in Watson's to exchange for free for free, you will get our night cream product night cream, and sunscreen also from Doctive and sunscreen also from Doctive for free

what is the shape of this? what is the shape of the campaign? and sunscreen is also from Doctive and sunscreen is also from Doctive we have free of charge what is the form of the campaign?

for support for friends who have already bought products that may be over claimed can be present only New Lab can do that so in the brain of AUNRE, it's not just cuan cuan but how we change the mindset of the community

to make the community smarter must be need to have something like this.

Because the most important thing is not only physical problems, but also mental health. Don't let your physical but also your mental problems get in the way. Especially if you have been affected by long-term effects. Because one small action that is rushed and impulsive will eventually make the actors in this skincare industry are very lucky but make you lose a lot of your mental health

Is it fair? You answer yourself Is it fair? You answer yourself OK?