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Will the Chiefs MISS THE PLAYOFFS?! 'They are MEDIOCRE' - Dan Orlovsky | First Take

Will the Chiefs MISS THE PLAYOFFS?! 'They are MEDIOCRE' - Dan Orlovsky | First Take

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in the division and on the outside looking in of the AFC playoff picture. Okay, we've said this a hundred times, let's say it again. If the playoffs were to start today, the Chiefs would not be in it. Does it feel like the Chiefs reign,

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at least in this division, is over, Dan?

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Oh, absolutely. The Broncos clearly have a stranglehold of this division. Here's the reality with where the Chiefs are. They're a mediocre football team right now. They are a mediocre football team. If you look at their record of 5-5, those four losses, don't talk about the Jags game. When they lost to Denver, they only led for five minutes and 45 seconds. When they lost to Buffalo, they only led for 2.48. When they lost to Philly, 2.44.

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And they lost the Chargers and they never led. So we're talking about only leading out of those four games for like 11 minutes. And they got to play the Colts next week. It's an offense right now that Patrick's made unbelievable plays yesterday. Denver said, Kelsey's not going to beat us.

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Worthy's not going to beat us. Rasheed Rice averaged six yards per catch. Rasheed Rice, a number one receiver in the league. Okay, two, they will not run the football when they have to. Buffalo and Denver both said, well, dare you to run the ball. They didn't. I think they ran it 13 times yesterday,

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coming off of what they did against Buffalo a couple of weeks ago. And this defense that has been notorious, notorious, notorious, notorious, for finding a way in the fourth quarter. Chris Jones, Karl Loftus, somebody make a sack McDuffie out of pressure get a blitz get home. They can't right now. And so yeah this is a this is a

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flirting with mediocrity football team that just numbers wise because they play the Colts next week. It's it's a very real conversation of are they going to get into the playoffs or not. So yeah the rain in the West is over. And what do you

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think. Very aggressive by you, Danielle. Very aggressive. I can't agree because there's not a world where I see the Chiefs and the Ravens missing the playoffs. Do I think they figured the things out? Absolutely.

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Do you feel extremely confident in the Chargers? Yes. Do you really feel extremely confident in the Broncos? They found ways to win. It was very promising to see Bonick's performance yesterday. But needless to say, the issue that I'm having with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Yes. Yes. The issue that I'm having with the Kansas City Chiefs is we've never seen the defense not be able to generate ruckus at a high level. Like they've been very vanilla this year. Okay, you look back at early on in the season. They've had dysfunction with Chris Jones. Now, you start to see okay, we're wearing closer games than we intended it to have

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and Patrick Mahomes is not able to get us out of this. The slump did Travis Kelsey have a good game. Yes, he did. But other issues still arose and their defense is the is the nucleus of these type of issues. And in order for them to make a run, their defense does need to type of enhance to be a little better for Patrick. Can I hold you mean

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you said that you have more faith in the cheats than you do the Broncos and the Chargers?

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Yes. you said that you have more faith in the Chiefs than you do the Broncos and the Chargers. Yes, and this is the reason why if you find a way to get into the playoffs, Dan Orlovsky, I don't give a dog on if it's a wild card or you win the division. Are you willing to bet your money that if

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the Kansas City Chiefs plays any team in the AFC that you're going to go against Patrick Mahomes?

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I mean, that's obviously a ways away. I still think that there's teams that are plenty capable of beating Kansas City. And I understand what Patrick is and who Patrick is in the playoffs, but there's no way you can tell me. There's no way you can tell me that you think the Chiefs you trust the Chiefs more than the Broncos. The Chiefs got six points yesterday of passing

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interferences. There were questionable calls. The Broncos defense without Sir, Tan and Singleton completely blanked

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them.

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That's not that's not the question. Daniel. The question is if the Kansas City Chiefs were to make it to the playoffs, you're going to take a chance to say a team is going to be the Kansas City Chiefs. And yes, I know the statistics if the playoffs started today. Well, good thing. It doesn't

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it starts in January. I got a good in November. If the Kansas City Chiefs finds a way to get into the playoffs, you're willing to take the Denver Broncos if they have to go to Denver or Anywhere to play a team no matter if it's Kansas City or not or what if it's in Kansas City or not You're willing to take that team over Kansas City Chiefs

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I'll make that decision when that time comes but like I said, Kansas City's gonna have to get in first

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Well, first of all, stop lying because you know it in damn well Because you know it damn well. If Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs make it to the playoffs, you ain't going to sit up there and look at Denver and the charges and go like this.

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I think they're going to lose.

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How are y'all going to tell me what I think?

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You're not going to do it. You're not going to do it.

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I absolutely would.

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You're not going to do it. You're going to sit up there I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Now, Denver's fourth-ranked offense in the fourth quarter, you understand, in terms of what they do on drives. But they're like 25th over the first three quarters. We get that part, OK? Their defense is real.

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I get it. I totally understand it. It's legit. Jaquan McMillan, big-time game last night. was balling, okay? And this is a dude that might not have been out there if Sir Tam wasn't injured. So we got to look at that and say, okay, that's gonna, that gives you even more reason to feel hot about Denver's defense. But here's what I want to look at with Kansas City's offense. I don't understand what the hell is going

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on with them. I know they're 12- gave up a touchdown and three field goes over the, you know, for the last five drives, you know, with Denver. I'm wondering about that spagnola in that defense. Where could you get a stop from someone? Could you do something to prevent him for crying out loud? I'm looking at that and I'm saying to myself, this is not a good look. I get it. I also saw rice get drop a pass in the first half I saw Travis Kelsey drop a pass in the first these are not things I'm accustomed to seeing but I harken back to a couple years ago Shay when the Kansas City Chiefs went on the road okay and

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they went in Buffalo they went to Baltimore and they went to Super Bowl it's like yo we here you know what this is a new season and I it's hard for me to just sit up there and say the rain is over. Of course, they ain't going to win the AFC West. I say that much. They're going to get to the playoffs as a wild card. I understand that.

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But it's hard for me to look at them and say, with the problems I've seen, the charges, you saw the way they stunk up the joint yesterday. You look at Denver, say, you know what? Kansas City, I can't see them doing anything. Can't go that far.

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I'm with you. They got to play Indy next week. In two weeks, they play Houston. Houston's defense is as good as anybody's in football. They still got to play the

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Chargers and they still got to play the Broncos.

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Okay, what I thought was wild. So they might not make the playoffs. So they might not make the playoffs. I'm saying if they do. If they do, it's in. What was wild to me last night is I felt like I saw Kansas City adjust their game plan to Denver's. You saw Patrick Mahomes get the ball out extremely fast. Chris Jones even said after the game in his locker, he's like, I felt like they knew everything we were going to the opposition adjusting to who they are. So for me, it felt very different.

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Andy Reid coming off the bye. It felt like they, I'm not going to say they weren't prepared, but it felt like a very turning of the tide to see another team basically have a stronghold on exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs were doing. That was just my opinion. But we would, all right, we're going to leave that there. held on to beat the Seahawks 21-19 in yesterday's fight for NFC West supremacy. LA's defense stepped up in a huge way picking off Sam

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Darnold four times and keeping Seattle out of the end zone until the closing minutes of the fourth quarter. After the game, Seahawks linebacker, Ernest Jones, defended his quarterback for play. Here it is.

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Sam's been balling like if we want to try to define Sam by this game or what, man, Sam's been, had us in every f***ing game. So for him to sit there and say, oh, that's my fault. No, it's not. There was plays that defensively we could have made plays. There were opportunities where we could have got better stops.

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Yeah, I mean, like, it's football, man. He's our quarterback. We got his back, and you got anything to say, quite frankly, f*** you.

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He might be flipping up the suburb here in a minute. I loved that. Didn't love what we saw from Sam Darnold, obviously, yesterday. We've talked about this leading up to this game. We wanted to see him perform big in a big game. Stephen A, what did you make of Sam Donaldson?

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To Ernest Jones, I'm gonna take that. And I know he wasn't talking about me, but I'm going to take it as if he is talking about me, cause I'm the dude that's the culprit when it's gonna come to talking about Sam Donald. I gladly accept that. By the way, I want a teammate like Ernest Jones.

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I want a teammate that'll have my back like that. I got no issues with him supporting Sam Donald, more power to him. But that don't mean a damn thing to the rest of us. We talking about football. This ain't Dear Abby.

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You understand what I'm saying? This ain't some damn therapy session. We're talking about a football game that happened on a Sunday afternoon where Sam Donald stunk up the joint. Now I will remind you that this is the same Steven A that sat

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up there and said he was a leading candidate for MVP. But as I had to tell this dude to my right, not on.

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Not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not,

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zip it. I don't want to hear anything from you. You just be quiet for the next 60 seconds at least. Okay, you're quiet. Okay, it's gonna be longer than that. Here's the point. I've been telling Dan Olofsky

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for since last year, you know, when they when you came into the locker room and they was poor Ward on them, like it was champagne

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for you the video.

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I know they have it.

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They got it for me, right? They hadn't won a division title yet. I said, you still got a division title to NFC North to win when he was a member of the Minnesota Vikings. I said, after that, you got the number one seed that you're playing for. You win, you're the number one seed, because you were 14 and 2 at the time.

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You lose, and you're the fifth seed. And you got to go on a road for playoff game. Not only did you stick up the joint with Detroit having 13 dudes on IR on the defensive side of the ball. Not only was that happening, but then you went and stunk up the joint against Los Angeles. And now for the third time with a money game,

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because that's what this game was. Everybody walked in pointing out how important this game was. Seattle, LA, Stafford, what you gonna do? Four interceptions?

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Four?

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Four?

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Three of them came under pressure? I mean, what's the trend? It's the big game, that's pressure. You apply pressure as opposed to defense, and Sam Donald shrinks. That's the rap, okay?

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So what happened yesterday? Okay, 45.5 season, worse pass a rating. That's the game. You pick this to happen at some point on. What did I tell you Dan? I looked in your face and I said to you come to me when it matters. Remember I said that I said come to me when it matters. This is weeks ago when I had to tell you when you were sitting

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there blow VA to be the quarterback whisperer that you are the quarterback Yeah, you know that spreads flowers upon quarterbacks. I mean because if there's a silver lining you'll find it I mean the hell was silver linings playbook with Bradley Cooper Jennifer Lawrence this brother Dan Olasky should start in a damn movie if there's a silver lining to find about a quarterback this brother will find it Okay, and I tried to tell you and here we are yet again It's a big game.

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Sam Donnell's your quarterback. And even though the brother can play now, we ain't saying he'll scrub now.

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But when-

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I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that. I wouldn't disrespect, if I call you a scrub, I'll call you a scrub. I know when I'm a scrub, so I know scrubs. The point that I'm trying to make to you, if I felt that way about him, I'd say so. Okay. I'd say so. But I'm telling you, that is not what I said about him. All I said was when it counts, pressure breaks pipes. And boy, was that pipe broken yet again

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yesterday. That is a fact. Two minutes and 32 seconds, so longer than 60. Okay, I still believe in Sam Donald in big games, important games, because it's not like these are stand-alones. This team was, what, seven and two going into yesterday, or six and two going into yesterday?

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They've played in multiple big games. I can't sit here and ignore what happened last year against the Rams, and ignore again what happened yesterday Okay, cuz I wouldn't allow it. I can't ignore it. But this here's Stephen is like a vulture He just waits for this group of quarterbacks. He waits for a couple of these quarterbacks

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He doesn't talk about them often when they play well And every time they play well in games that apparently don't matter. He's always gonna be like yeah, just wait Let me ask you this because he does it with Sam. He does it with Josh. He does it with Jared Goff. I'm 100% right.

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You just wait for them to have the bad game. And then you're like, look at me.

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I told you that they were going to stink.

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Eventually, I'm going to push back to ask you a question. This is an honest to God question. Out of the quarterbacks in the NFC, when it comes to the big game or the biggest game or the most pressure packed game or the winner go home, who do you have zero hesitancy to trust?

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Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford.

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Okay.

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And possibly a Baker Mayfield. Hold the phone. Possibly a Baker Mayfield. Dep the phone. You're possibly a big dog. Dog depends on his weapons. I mean, he's got to have his weapons. He's got to have weapons. Oh, now he's got to have his weapons.

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I have his weapons now. I mean, you know, you got your picture. You got your Pete now, but so we've seen Baker Mayfield. There's only two games. We've seen Sam Donald win games. That one really counts. That one really counts. Stiff competition. Detroit, LA, now Seattle. I mean, LA.

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Detroit, LA again. I mean, LA again. LA twice.

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He's got a Rams problem.

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He's got a Rams problem. I think there's only two quarterbacks in the NFC. Two quarterbacks in the NFC. Zero hesitation to trust. I think it's fair to say that like, yeah, we want to see you play your very best when it matters the most.

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This is how you make your impact in games like this. Danny. Oh, you know this. Don't tell me what you're going to do versus the Dolphins. Don't tell me what you're going to do versus the Browns. Don't tell me what you're going to do versus the depleted team.

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Tell me what you're going to do versus the team when they're at their best in a hostile environment. What we need you to play your best. You've been, you was inserted here to play how we think you could play or show flashes of you playing. But this wasn't it. We went from saying Sam, I am to Sam, I damn another interception. So when I look at the Seattle Seahawks, the biggest question is

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Sam Darnold will be the reason you do win. But guess what? Sam Darnold will be the reason you do not win as well. And we've seen this type of this type of DNA happen from him. Do I not think that Sam Donald is well and capable of performing

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at a high level? Absolutely. But when you start to factor in, hey, let's put a little pressure.

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Hey, hey,

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let the let the intensity of the game rise a little bit.

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What Sam Donald are we going to get there?

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Hey,

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the odds are against us last week. Stephen a we said this same thing and they had an opportunity to do so. Do you are you willing to bet your kitchen sink that Sam Donald will be the person to allow your team to win late at the end because that's how the game is going to go in funny

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enough that that's how it was shaping up to be yesterday.

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But Cam. Now, if it, yes sir.

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But Cam, there's, I'll give you the same thing. Like, okay, what guys are then you going to sit and bet the kitchen sink on? That you unequivocally, without hesitation, will do

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it?

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It's the same thing.

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I think that's an evasive question.

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It's the same thing.

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What does evasive mean? It's the Jalen Hurts. You're trying to make a mess. It's Jalen Hurts and Matthew Stafford. Cam, let me chime in here, please. What I mean by it being an evasive question, don't bring up other quarterbacks to gloss over the reality of what we're witnessing. We talked about four interceptions yesterday.

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We talked about a Seattle defense that after giving up some points in the first quarter held LA to one yard on three plays in the entire second quarter. That the only time LA had possessions in Seattle territory in the entire second half was based off of turnovers. We're talking about a Seattle team that was still

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One last time. Seattle wins the game. One last time.

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Doesn't win it, Seattle wins the game. So what I'm saying to you is this, I don't want to hear about Hurts. I don't want to hear about Stafford. I don't want to hear about Love. I don't want to hear about Baker Mayfield. I don't want to hear about these other quarterbacks. We're talking about him. We're talking about Sam Donald. We're saying to you, as good and as talented as he is and he's in the MVP discussion before yesterday. There's no doubt about it.

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Okay. The fact is is that in the big moments, the three biggest moments over the last two years in his career, he has scored a grand total of 37 points in three games, 37 points in three games. That's what I'm looking at right now. Two touchdowns drives, only one touchdown pass and six

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turnovers. Now, come on now, come on now.

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You can't escape that.

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Don't go.

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I know I can't.

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I can't.

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I went against.

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So what I'm saying to you is this, if I go to Dan and I go to camp and I say to you yo all of these moments you produce now. Listen again, if you're scrubbed your scrub, you know, what scrubs are it don't matter what the moment is they scrubs you just said they ain't producing. That's not Sam Donald if you hear on those games against

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inferior competition and then the minute somebody shows up and they saying you ain't the bully on the block. We bullies to what you got And that's when you wilt? That's a different animal and you can't get around that Dio. I can't I can't argue against yesterday. I can't. I can't. Well at least you're not trying. I can't. Because I wish I could. I was prepared for you to be foolish enough to try to argue about it yesterday. But my point to you and Cam is this.

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Let's not put him by himself as he's the only person that you guys view in that category.

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Hold on, wait a minute.

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Yesterday, yesterday, we ain't looking at nobody else on Seattle.

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We ain't looking at anybody else on Seattle.

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No, I'm not talking about on the team. Okay.

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We're not talking about. Though. Don't bring up anybody. I just I did. I just said, you don't bring up the other corner. You can't say that you

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but Steven, you can't say do you believe in the left tackle in big games? You can't you like that's not a real

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no, I could say about a wide receiver. I could say about

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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So, so let's give the consistent. This is typical. Stephen a cam DNA in regards to the playoffs and let's shift that energy to Sam Darnold, right? What we say Stephen a

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we give you the finger and say it better not be here. Be you don't have to you. Don't let it be. Yes. Yes, today. Yesterday. It was as clear as day.

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It was Sam Darn Donald's fault. Sure. If Josh Allen,

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if Lamar Jackson, if Patrick Mahomes had that same type of performance,

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we don't skate around certain things. And even with Ernest, Ernest Jones, standing up for his quarterback. Like that's cool and all schools, but everybody knows it was him. Yeah, and when you had that type of impact as a quarterback, specifically, you cannot have these type of blunders when you're throwing the ball into the opposite team's hands four times and you still did the most this this amazing point

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about this all is you just lost the game within one score. Just imagine what would have happened if you wouldn't even turn the ball over.

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So that's my thought dismantle them. There's obviously some sort of blueprint here to like when he's pressured. We had the stats up like he's not good 34 yards,

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turning the ball over the way Shay. The Los Angeles Rams did not have a drive longer than 25 yards over the final three quarters. That means all your quarterback has to do is show a pulse.

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And you win the damn game!

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Yeah.

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And you win the game!

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Style of play for you.

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So, so, so, so, so, so, Ernest, listen, Ernest, listen, the defense is real. That brother applauded him coming to the defense of his quarterback, he should. You understand? And Sam Donald is an upgrade,

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and there's no doubt that Seattle is better off with him than without him. He is having an outstanding year, excluding yesterday. But yesterday was a telltale sign. As the moments get big, as the lights magnify, as the pressure mounts... as the pressure mounts...

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See, vulture.

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