YAKIN KITA KALAH WAJAR⁉️Deal Patrick dan Pssi Mau tau?! GUE BICARA INI BAHAYA OM‼️Valentino- Greg

This is an interesting contract issue, Greg. Because it turns out that Coach Patrick's target is the 2028 Olympics and the 2030 next World Cup.

Huh? No way.

Yes, that's what has been said. So, this one is just going to lose? That's my question. Why?

Wow.

5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

And close the door.

This is exciting. I want to tell you first, can, and close the teams. Creativity, and so on. There were so many input. And then, during the meeting, we had input from Pot Hub.

With Vidi.

And then, from the team, we gave a lot of input. Like, what if we add this? What if we change the guest star? What about the character? And so on. I thought about it, and I only got one answer.

Why? If it's not broken, don't fix it. I said that. Okay, okay, okay. I said, in my opinion, if it's proven to be true, why should it be corrected?

What's wrong? That's it.

I'm just sharing about my impudence last time.

This is too much.

Because of Sofi, right? But did you change it? Why? Did you change it? No. I don't think he's a smart guy. Only smart guy don't make this kind of decision. That's what I thought. I thought we were chill at the beginning.

How are you, Greg?

How are you, Greg? Are you upset about yesterday's match, Greg?

I'm not really upset, but I'm disappointed.

Disappointed.

Disappointed. But, um, um, Lawan Airak, I was really impressed how we played, but, um, we don't need to play good. Now it's time for a result. So, we didn't get the job done. So, at the end of the day, we didn't make it. I was disappointed because I hoped and I thought Indonesia...

...would make it.

...would have a chance. It's very, very big.

It's very likely.

Very likely to make it.

But let's just go straight to the point. This is a split now, if I look at it. So there are two groups, although there are many groups here. There are two groups. One feels that it's not the right time for Indonesia to enter. It's not worthy. People are expecting too much.

But there is another group that says, this has to be responsible. Even if we lose, it's better to lose to Sinteyong.

Yeah, I agree. I'm with that group.

You're with that group?

Of course. It's clear.

Why? Why can youatakan kalau kalah, gue mendingan kalah sama Sinteyo.

Kan kalau kalah, kalah dulunya juga kalah, bro.

No, no, no. Gini. You remember the last time I came here?

Ya.

Kita bahas.

Ya. Ya lu marah-marah itu kan?

But I said, look. Kalau standarnya, If we are in the middle of something big, we are on the right track, and then there's no need to change. No need. If you change this guy, if it works, you are a legend. If it doesn't work, you also have to take responsibility.

That's how it works. Now this is very interesting because that's what I want to talk about. You said that if you're walking, you don't have to change it. If you change it, you take a big risk. If you succeed, it means you're taking a risk and there is a reward. Reward. Reward.

But if you don't succeed,

Consequences.

Why do you say that it's a consequence? That's the decision of the PSSI actually.

Look, my point is this. When, when, like this. I also play football, right? And then, I was an ex-football player. So, now, can Cinta Yong take us to the World Cup? Not yet. So, now, if we ask her,

do you think you have a chance to go to World Cup? You know what his answer is? Yes. I already made a plan. He proved that he can beat Saudi Arabia 2-0. Very easy. So, and now, if we were to play against Saudi Arabia, which they think is not fantastic. We lost because of tactical error. You know? It was obvious.

Tactical error. We were wrong. And then, I don't know. I wasn't there. I couldn't have miscalculated. Because against Iraq, it was fantastic. The first half was good. Even the second half. The second half was okay. But you know, you

have to adapt. The second half was when they changed the strategy. We were in a mess.

The opponent changed the strategy.

Right. And they waited. You know, we are a country like Indonesia. We are a team that we play direct football. Be patient, wait, attack. Yesterday, the team that I saw, we try to play beautiful football, which is good. But ini bukan waktunya.

Jadi kita kalah sama strategi yang dulu kita pakai ya?

Exactly. So, and they, you know, ini sangat, for people, I see banyak pundits yang bilang, ini bukan gagal.

Tapi?

I saw one guy who just keeps saying that. I look, you know, like mau ludahin dia, gak bisa, you know, mau bilang, ayo, kita tinju aja, yuk.

Apa dia bilang?

Dia bilang, ini bukan gagal. What did he say? He said, this is not a failure.

And?

Yeah, he said that. He said, how can you say that? During Cinta Yong, this guy always very critical.

Oh, I know.

Yeah, very critical. And then, when we fail, OK, the least we do is shut up. Don't talk. If you don't know what you're saying, don't defend yourself. And you say there's a level FF. You used to say Indonesia is not at the level of FF anymore.

Our level is at the level of world. Now, we're talking about FF again. So, we come back again to become level AFF, focus the AFF. You know, it's just you're lying to people all the time. And you are not fair in your judgment. You are not being objective every time you talk. I have a tricky question for you. When you say they're lying to people all the time,

what he gain?

I don't know, honestly. Maybe I'm confused. I don't know. I keep asking myself this same thing. What is... What he get from this? I don't know. But, again, like, you know,

Mausalaim Pemain, ngga bisa. Pemain already give everything. They give their best. Mausalaim Platih, Patrick, no. Itu bukan salah dia. He came on a short period. It's not easy to change things in this short time, you know. And then, yesterday, if I got the info, there were players who came in the second half, the first half, you know, so it was hard for him to practice for the full team. You know, maybe that's also one of the reasons, but again, like I said, going back to my first point, why do we have to change the guy who already has all the answers?

If you say it like that, Greg, you said earlier that you want to fire the player, but you can't. He's already good at playing, right? He said he wanted to fire Patrick. Hard work. Okay, he's already hard working. He wants to fire Patrick, but he can't. Because Patrick got a job offer. Patrick got a contract. If we were Patrick, we would take it.

And Patrick would feel that he can do it. If we blame Patrick, he can't. So, there must be something wrong.

In every decision, there must be something wrong. As I said, there is consequences.

Who should be responsible? Patrick.

Now people say, change Patrick, throw Patrick away, etc. If you ask like that, who should be responsible? There is consequences. that people can conclude and find their own opinion. First, it's not about who's wrong, but who dares to admit it's wrong. That's the first thing. Because after this failed result, we have stopped, right? The ones who have been holding back

because who knows the result is right. Don't say it, because it means we are at fault. We are doubting the decision to replace it. Now, when we finally fail, even if we are not in the second place, it means there is something wrong.

Instead of looking for someone, if it's the sacred one, it's better to admit the mistake, and continue like this. you better admit your mistake until now. The second thing is, if now there are a lot of Patrick out on that, I remind my followers that in the middle of the fast track,

he made the decision as a job seeker, I analogize to Disneyland or Duvan, if you take the fast track, you actually feels bad to the long queue. But... I don't feel bad. I mean, but legally you can, because it's...

You can, yes.

Right?

Even though when it's at the end, it's a bit uncomfortable than the one on the other side. The difference between Disneyland and Duvan, Om Dad. The one on the other side, after we went up, he still went up. This is the opposite. He didn't go up with us. The one with the long queue. The one from the beginning.

That's why I said, before going to In-N-Out, there was a question, who was the one who finally interviewed, offered a job, and agreed that Coach Patrick would be the coach. Because Coach Patrick is a job seeker.

But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, I'm going to ask you this, what do you think?

Why was this decision made?

That's still a mystery. Why was this decision made? Why did Sinteyong have to go out? Why was this decision made? You know, if I'm not mistaken, I remember quite well. They targeted EFF, right?

He failed EFF. Oh, the last one? they targeted AFF, right? they failed AFF

oh the last one? they failed that but I remember quite well, they didn't bring a full team they didn't bring they brought a team B or U23 they went

and then I remember during that time I said that's not allowed. All competitions are important. Because I remember in PCC, C3, he brought U23. Whatever the result, we accept it. Because we focus on the world cup. And even if he fails, he is still evaluated. So, I don't understand. I'm confused. But at that time, I remember I was bullied at that time

because I said, no, if you have this kind of tournament, you also have to go serious. There's no gossip, you have to go all in. But and then I was bullied by the netizens, oh we're not F, level F, F again, we're playing the world, blah blah blah. But at the end of the day, because of that reason, the love also stopped working. That's one. I heard, You know, it's all alasan. Now, it's been confirmed. Now, even the manager of NASA team has started to talk about the debate when Coach Patrick decided to start the lineup against ARAT. And now, the latest news said,

I will go back to Jakarta to report everything to the Exco about what I know as a team leader manager at the moment so that PSSI doesn't make any more mistakes. Those are the words that I can quote because they're already in my mind. If you say PSSI doesn't make any more mistakes,

it means that...

It's getting crowded. So, what was wrong anymore, it means that... That's a lot of people. So, what was it before?

It means that they are doing something wrong.

According to that statement, psychologically...

Yes, it means they are doing something wrong.

For me, the most correct and correct reason to replace Coach Sintayong with Coach Patrick is to make sure that we can pass the test with Coach Patrick. There's no other reason to replace a coach who is in the track who has a chance. Besides, I'm more confident with this one.

So, it's okay.

To pass the test.

So, it's possible. That's the only reason you will take him. That's why one. That means it's okay. To pass. That means it's possible.

That's the only reason we take him.

That's why he said, but that's a big risk at that time.

Yes.

Now the risk has been taken.

Yes.

And it turned out to be a failure. But if someone takes a failure risk, for example, I'm in the middle, I'll try to be in the middle. Because earlier... We're not in the middle. We're not in the middle, but there were words from Greg, who's responsible? If we're at risk, we're in business, we're at risk.

We're wrong.

You know, at the end of the day, who will always take this responsibility? It's the coach. Whether you want it or not, in every situation. What do you want? Like I said, I can say, I talk about it. The recruiter, there must be a contract, whatever, what's the target, what do we want, what do we want.

Well, this is interesting about the contract, Greg. Because it turns out, sorry I cut a little,

what then appeared was that it turned out that Coach Patrick's target was the 2028 Olympic Games and the 2030 Next World Cup.

Huh? No way.

Yes. That's what was said. Really? Yes. That's why I said there should be no other reason other than Coach Patrick's presence for the World Cup in 2026.

Wait, wait, wait. What about the contract?

So, it's not a contract. I mean, there's already news that it turns out that the one targeted to Coach Patrick is the 2028 Olympics and the 2030 World Cup. If you say that, it means... Until it will reach the era of the gold Indonesia in the 2040s because there is the gold Indonesia in 2045. That's what's brought by Grand Design.

So, this one is just lost?

That's my question. Why? The most important reason is that it has to be confirmed. There is that news.

So, but if you see at the end of the day, now I want, you know,

now we just have to wait.

We just have to wait and see what's gonna happen.

You get my point?

I can't say anything if you say that.

If the target is that long, I'm one of the people who can't agree with Patrick. Because he was targeted not in 2026, but in 2013. If it's like that, it's not Patrick's fault. But for what you change it so fast, when the target is not you now.

What's the point of changing?

Are you sure we have another chance like this? I mean, if...

The target is later.

Yeah.

What are you going to do now? I'm confused. Why don't you wait? Why don't you wait?

Why don't you wait? Let's say, you know, the most realistic thing is this. Okay. STY, when they fail,

you replace them, nobody talks.

That's right.

Nobody complains. Okay. Patrick Patrick in, dia in with new project, with new ideas, with whatever dia mau terapkan di Indonesia, boleh. Nobody will complain. But,

masyarakat kecewa karena kamu ganti orang yang

mereka yakin bisa bawa Indonesia ke Pelagak.

Gini bro, ada satu, menurut gue bisa ada teori konspirasinya satu lagi. Karena takut Bro, I think there could be another conspiracy theory. Because they're afraid that if they win, they'll be in the hands of the STI. Why?

They can't change.

Why do you have to change if it's good? The goal is not to make the world a better place. No, I said, if they fail, automatically, if they bring Indonesia to the world, why do you change? You just said now, if it's not broken, why do you change? Exactly. So, like Jibreel said, if something, if you change something that is okay, you have to change it for greater good. If not,

what's the point? So, it's not only the capital of the PSSI. There are also policies of the country that support this project. But now, it's a failure. So, the risk is not only about one person or one organization. But it's also a part of a bigger one. Because it's not only the organization. But actually, that's also part of the bigger picture. Because it's not just the organization itself.

This is the APBN and so on.

There are also, because there are some who don't understand. But I'm curious, in this situation, Greg, if you become Patrick,

will you back down or not?

If I have a contract, why would I back down? If my contract, my target is 2028, why would I back down? I'll go drink coffee, thank you. Like I said, he's not wrong. You know, know very awa i will never say anything against him walaupun lawan saudi arab saudi uh straight up uh lineup tactical dia aku kurang setuju but he's the coach tapi greg menurut lo tactical wise is he is he a good coach for you? He has team, it's not only him

How about the team? Because he has 18 people in his team 18? So if 18 people cannot build a component 11, why are they there? I asked you, because the team is so big

I said, okay When I saw the line-up against Arab, I was confused. I was like, okay, wow. I was, wow. And then, second half, he made changes, but it's already late.

And then, against Iraq, he came out with very, very strong line-up, which is very questionable.

Why?

No, you have to give your best. You have to put your best 11 all the time. It's not gambling time.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I mean, yeah, okay. Now, it's not the PCC that asked him to line up.

No. Exactly. And then it's not the manager. It's not theSC that asked him to line up. No.

Exactly. And then it's not the manager, nor the player who asked him to choose.

But he...

Morni. Morni, it's him. He's the coach. So, when he made that lineup and the tactic, you know, first of all, you're playing far away from Indonesia, in Arab, you want to play back four. According to me, that's wrong. And then you change, almost, winning team, your last game, Kamuganti-Somua, you don't do that. Rizky Rido out, Hobna out, you know.

A lot, you know, Nathan out, you know. And then, sorry to say, Jacob Sanyori, he started, Mark Beckham, and the next game,

from playing the game, tiba-tiba kamu naik atas, gak ganti baju. So it's like... Minimal cadangan lah ya.

Minimal, like it's like they don't have plan.

Oh, kayak mungkin mereka juga duduk baca komen kayak kita. Kayak netizens.

Read the comments. Oh, okay. I think people attack him. Okay, let's...

You mean this one, the people?

Yeah. I think if you wanna... If Indonesia wanna be good, the first... Bigger good, you know, the first... I always see it here. Every time I come to Indonesia, I start...

So, you are saying do not listen to the comment? Of course, you are the coach.

You shouldn't have social media. What are you doing there? You are here to work, not to For example, a 10 year old writing, why isn't this the one who reads it? Like for example, I don't defend. People attack Mark, attack Beckham, attack Jacob, Sayuri. Why? They are doing their job. They are doing their job. Okay, look. Mark haven't been, Mark udah lama gak dipanggil, Timnas.

Right? Dia dapat opportunity lagi. Ketika dia dapat opportunity di Oji Coba, dia dua assist, satu goal. Okay? And then, mungkin,

dengan apa yang Patrick lihat, dia bilang, okay, mungkin bisa dipake. And then he maybe, with what Patrick saw, he said, okay, maybe it can be used. And then he put in, gave a chance to start. Okay, but if Mark underperforms, okay, underperform, I wouldn't say underperform. But who is our player who looked good that day?

No, tell me.

Martin Bass.

Goalkeeper.

Seven saves.

No, tell me.

Who else?

Tell me.

Who else? Tell me.

Who else? Tell me.

Who else? Tell me. Who else? Tell me.

Who else? Tell me. Who else? Tell me.

Who else? Tell me. Who else? Tell me. Who else? Sometimes in football, there are coaches that are present. If you don't fit in their concept or system, it's okay. They don't call you. And there are other coaches that come in, they see, okay, I think I need somebody like this.

Because it's purely the decision of the coach, right?

And the coach should know what to do. And then whatever happens, it's the coach's responsibility. So you put them and then they play, and the next game, I see them come out. They sit on the top. Jakob, up. It's like they are being targeted.

Like, okay, this is our problem. We kick them out. Minimum, from playing 75 minutes, 80 minutes, you have to be on the bench. You know? So, what I see...

So, this is the player, Om Det, the player who was the main player in the Iraqi opposition party. There are some who are not even in the Iraqi opposition party.

Gone.

So they just sit in the tribune.

Gone.

It's a bit... When I see this kind of decision, you know what I understand? I understand that... that national team, we have a group of coaches,

we have managers, who just sit there and let them do whatever they want.

So there is no surprise that with... Well, here's another one. In my opinion, when this federation has made an unpopular decision, the team or the person who are shown as the PR guy are not wise, in my opinion. They often make statements that when Indonesia won,

they will challenge it. They will talk about the old one. They will say, look, this one can also... So, the people don't get their hearts.

So, it's no different than the netizens.

It's like... Wait, if I think I won, I'll reply to the comment. The Federation can't do that.

I don't think so.

Especially after making an unpopular decision. Prove them wrong. You have to be able to prove that the people who say that the decision is wrong, are the ones who are wrong. But...

It's not Purbaya, right? Right? If it's Purbaya, that's how it is. But the people are popular because their decision is popular. The people like the story.

This is always the turn of positive results. The comments, for us, are like, what are you doing? It was like a challenge.

A challenge.

And then, there's another one that was talked about a lot. If you say that the time and the gathering were not long, it was also popularized by him that this was a Satset movement. That if we lose Satset, there will be more players in this competition. We have got more players who will be Indonesian citizens. Satset.

If we win, it's okay.

We got more.

That's why I said, because this is already a Satset program, as long as the result is satsa and good, then we applaud the satsa thing.

So, he will be a guru baya later.

The problem is that it's not okay. Because it's not okay, it means... So, you have accumulated hatred. Not hatred. This is something that I should have said, but who knows I was wrong. Because you can't say it first, when you say it, it turns out he's right, he's wrong.

That's right.

So wait.

There must be a lot of people like me, Om Ded, because we don't want to disturb.

Not many, everyone.

But my reason is not because I'm afraid of being wrong, Om Ded. My reason is I don't want to disturb the process that we wanted to get. Because we all have the same prayer.

And we were hoping for the wrong thing.

Yes, that's right.

We were hoping for the wrong thing.

So, when it's wrong, it means that it's the right thing. So, I said, why is the PR guy like a challenge, like a kid? So we're sorry, I mean, I don't know if this is also representing the audience. Sometimes we definitely want to win. But the turn of the result is wrong. We also become like, there is something like that.

Look, right? Look, there's something like that. Because if we win, we also become, wow, crazy. Who is this blessed? Who is this blessed? True. True. Who is this for? That's right. So, in the beginning, the communication team was also challenged.

I think that's a very important factor.

But, if you say that, Greg said earlier, if you're a coach, you shouldn't read the comments and stuff.

Mostly, that's what I think.

I want to jump in. Why do I see it now? For both of you, but maybe you've been in Indonesia for a long time. Why now, it's like, I see it as a political game. In your opinion, why suddenly there are a lot of buzzwords?

I don't know. But what I know, look. There is one coach that I admire a lot in Indonesia. You know why I like him? He doesn't have a social media account. Thomas Doe. During his time, he wanted to pair up what the fans say. He doesn't care. He doesn't have time to... You know, like... When you start reading those comments,

you know, as a coach, maybe you start to think,

and then maybe you start to find your mistakes. It's affecting, yeah.

It's affecting, yeah. Your decisions, yeah.

Maybe. This...

But it's human, right?

Just maybe. Because, come on, it doesn't make sense for me to play a game, 80 minutes, the next game I sit up, you can sit up, turn, who is not even in the bench last game. Before we start this, you already know your plan. A, plan B, plan C. If I look at the decisions, and then line up, and then the rest, you know, I think we don't have a plan. Zero. We don't have a plan. Cinta Yong, he has a plan.

You said you don't have a plan.

I swear.

There was no plan in the last match. I'm a football player. I can see there is no plan. All the plan is spontaneously.

Okay, let's do this. And they do it. Look, I like this guy. I never meet him. Never.

Like never, I don't know him.

But when I watch him, I'm like, okay, I'm going to watch him. I'm going to watch him. I'm going never met him. Never. I never sat down. I don't know him. But when I watch his strategy, when he plays, he's always... You can see, he's always in the opposing team. They're not in danger. He used our strength. Our strength, which is we sit back, counter, and then counterattack.

When was the last time we scored from open play? I got a message from a senior journalist named Gita Suwondo. She was there because she was in charge of the broadcast. But at that time, the broadcast was not allowed to cover the practice. But she could see it with her naked eyes. And at that time, they were practicing repeatedly.

Who is this? I forgot. Oh, Sinteyong.

Oh, this is the one from before. I'm just trying to make it up to Greg. About his plan.

His plan is good.

You see, we have a plan.

So, I heard that Marcelino's goal to the Arab is a pattern in his training that he has asked for many times.

Really?

And it happened. That's one. Second, he said he was very angry with Mangun because he couldn't score against Japan in the first half. Because he said he had tried it many times. I mean, the plan is spontaneously. Okay. Like, okay, let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this.

Let's do this. Let's do this. No, no, no, no. I don't plan. You know what I mean? The plan is spontaneously. Okay. Like, okay, let's do this. And sadly, our goal against...

our goal... we were defeated against Arab and Iraq. The first one in Arab. And the goal against Iraq was the same. So, we were taught...

Okay, okay, okay. Can I cut that? Yes, you can. and the goal from Iraq was the same so we were taught ok ok ok ok can I cut that?

yes, you can the game against the Arabs the players were more...

yes, yes

against the Arabs who did our people blame?

do you remember?

who?

what is this? the first goal

against the Arabs

Klok Klok, they blamed him, right?

ok let's say wrong clearance. Right? Do you still remember how many people gathered here? For cover. For cover. There are, right? But this guy still has time. Keep in shooting. Yesterday, who was wrong? Rido. R The pressure was the same. What? You cannot keep doing this. This is not, you know, football, you know.

In every situation, there must be someone who made a mistake.

But the lesson is, the opponent team...

It's okay. Rido, he made a mistake.

It's not because we scored.

We're still on that.

After that, we'll go there again. But I mean, the opponent is already learned In the third set, he was pressed Right And the kick was both

Same

Crazy

At the end, it was like that

Wait, wait, wait

Wait

We were wrong, sorry, before I forgot We were wrong, America And then then we forgot we got two penalties. That was also wrong for an Arab player. Hands ball, do a hands ball. Somebody has to make mistakes. That's football. Don't just focus on the mistake. Like yesterday, Ridho Manohar. Main bagus banget. Berapa bola dia potong, berapa bola dia intercept. But, yang mereka hanya fokus, hanya itu.

That's why Indonesia susah, susah banget berkembang. Untuk pemain bola juga mau, kadang mau do something kamu takut salah, you know? You're not yourself.

Because kamu gak mau dibully gitu loh.

It's okay to make mistake. Kamu takut salah, you know? You are not yourself. Kos kamu gak mau dibully, gitu loh.

It's okay to make mistakes. Kadang, what I learned in Indonesia, kalau lo salah, kita menang, Yahuda kita maafin.

Kalau lo salah, kita kalah, kita bunuh.

Ya, abis. Oh, itu terbilang kan?

Ya, you don't do this.

Okay, let's see.

I'm a footballer since I was a kid. So, I can go that far. I was like, wow, can we reach the level that we will pass or not? I thought I could at least make it to the second place. Seri and Irak, for example, I thought we could still be in the second place. Syria and Iraq, even if they are not as good as us, hoping for the last match or winning against Iraq, at least we are still in the second place.

Or even if we are in the last place in Bolivia. But yesterday, we were not even close. I was like... You were like, what?

I was like, we are done.

We are done.

You know? We were like, this is it. You know? Like this. Yeah, like this.

We're done.

We're done.

We're done.

What are we going to do tomorrow?

Like magic.

Yeah, what are we going to do tomorrow?

I'm confused.

Really, we're done. That's it. Because what you said earlier, there's a view that maybe we don't really follow the ball. It's not us, it's the national team, it's the world team. I understand that.

Some of my friends don't follow the ball too much. But some of them do. It's like, oh my God. It's possible, right? Yes.

It's possible.

It's possible.

It's true.

Too bad.

Too bad.

Too bad.

Oh, I. What was he speechless? A lot of people DM me, like, what did you catch? Why didn't you say anything? What do you want to say? This is the time to say something. So, Om Det, the last question to Greg was about Buzzer and politics. Well, that's it.

I didn't comment in a, uh, in a, uh, I actually commented, I said, man, how can I?

When?

Until today, just look at the comments, there must be some who are sticking, ah, he is indeed this.

Maybe the comment is the right one.

I don't know, I've got a lot, right? I said, what is it? Maybe you are like that, maybe that's why you think like that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Look at the example from yesterday, when the game was still on, they threw the bottle, and we were left behind, we were chasing the game. So, it's already our attitude. We are losing, and they... Not only that, FIFA's fans are still the AFC fans.

The fans are still coming down.

That's bad. It's our habit.

We keep doing this in Indonesia, in Indonesia League. We have now brought it to the international.

I saw there were mothers who joined. This player is also a pressure, right? That's wrong. But I can understand when we see teams from the Middle East, they are very good.

But I can understand when we see teams from the Middle East, if they start winning, the last minutes they always fall.

Strategy.

Yes, that's strategy. We also do that. I know. I mean, yes. We also do the same thing. But not to our team. And the commentator, I see when we play,

the commentator always wants to like,

hey, a little bit more, this is a little bit. But to our team too, bro. Our team is the same, that's what I'm saying. If we lose, we're also being bullied. If we play badly, we're also being bullied. Same, Same.

Maybe it's not a bottle, but the word netizen is...

Bro, you have 90 minutes. You kick off this game together. So, if you're left behind, and then you start chasing the game, and then you look for excuses, it's not clear, you want to blame Wasit,

no. Like, before Arab, I'm not looking for an excuse. I don't know. No. Before Arab, there were a lot of non-technicals. We were put 40 kilometers away from our hotel. You mean, they were looking for an excuse. The wasit had to be changed. But, during the game,

the wasit was the best Wasit I ever seen. The first one. The first one. The one before was not bad, but he was two moments. His decision…

The VAR was broken, right?

Maybe.

That was bad.

Two moments. Two moments, you know? So, but again, we didn't do enough to win the game.

At the end of the day, we didn't win the game.

At the end of the day.

And now the question is, is the project to find the best of the next generation of players still going on? Oh, that's it. Or starting to focus on what a lot of people have been saying for a long time. Back to the old team. What do you mean?

No.

Because the target is moving forward.

Or we start focusing on 2030, in 4 years, to improve the generation and also the grassroots that are far more... the investment is there. Because we don't chase it fast. Well, 4 years is not that fast. Is it possible?

Now, the problem is this, Om Ded. The period of Mr. Ketum is until 2027. Sometimes, if you replace Mr. Ketum, all the previous projects are not continued. Including the coach. If we remember, the previous coach is not the result of this coach. Coach Patrick is the one who created this Ketum. If in 2027, Ketum will be replaced,

will Coach continue? Will this project continue? We don't know that either. That's why I'm so worried. Because the story is almost there. At least it will be like this again in 4 years.

We'll wait and see if we can pass or not.

But if it's just STI, it's known to cut one generation.

Are you optimistic that four years later we can be in the same lane? I ask you, do you think this opportunity is supposed to be a lifetime opportunity. If FIFA adds more players who can leave Asia, it will be possible. And then one of the guys, one of the pundits said yesterday, when we discussed the possibility of changing the player, he said, trust me, you will never love to come back here again. has So, what you're trying to tell us? I commented, I said, so what you're trying to say? You're trying to say there is something

personal. This guy, he just make comment like I don't understand. from the stand. comment do you want to answer again? but if I myself I hope, not hope I myself say, don't come back because at the end

I think it starts from zero

if you say it I mean, now he's the most right

if he comes back he's a hero, if he comes back

and he doesn't win again, he's ruined.

You know what happens if he comes back? If they want him to come back, you know what it means?

He will say, okay, you ruined my project. Now I'm starting from zero again.

Yes, bro.

You know, so if you... If that point is understandable, right? Makes sense. Because now, whatever you want to do now, you need to get somebody who is even better than what we have now, moving forward. Coach Patrick, do you want...

Okay, let's talk about the future. Let's forget about yesterday.

Yes, this you want. Let's talk about the future, okay? Let's forget about yesterday. Yes. This is interesting.

If you have the power to change and to take decisions, what are you going to do now?

Honestly, from the first time I recruited Patrick, I didn't agree. agree. You know why? Not because he was a bad coach or whatever. Because they said, the reason was because they had a lot of younger players. So that they could be in the same group. For me, I think that was wrong.

You already made them very, very, you put them in zone of comfort position, comfort zone. So, you need to get a coach who is very neutral and who don't, like, example, I don't want to say love. Love is like, you don't care who you are. You work hard, you play. You don't work hard, out. Dia ngga mau liat muka kamu siapa.

Ya, karena disitu.

And then mereka semua pemain itu takut. They understand. Mereka ikut apa mau dia.

Ya, karena suku, agama, dan sebagainya itu menyebabkan kedekatan tertentu kan, sebenarnya, kalau kita bicara ya.

In football, it's different. Yeah, it shouldn't be like that. Like, when we talk about football, you need a coach with the kind of... Straight. We have a very good team.

A very strong squad. They're young. Imagine, how many players do we have who play in the top league? Top league. So, you come here, Imagine how many players we have who play in the top leagues. So you come here, you sit at the bench and you don't mind.

You're putting pressure on the coach too. Hey, I don't come here for this. I need to play or I go back. It's just an example. But if this coach is a coach, like with this kind of squad we have now, we already need to get world-class coach.

World-class coach who will come and even the player who thinks they are a star, look at him and feel intimidated.

Okay.

In my opinion.

Okay. So basically basically Patrick out

I don't say out now, he still on the contract till 2028

if you say so I don't know when the contract will be, but the target is said to be in 2028 and 2030

2030 I mean like if you ask me to be honest, honest opinion if you change a guy if you release a guy who has all these things, and he goes to the world, you take him out

because you want to bring a better person than him to make sure Indonesia will go to the world. And then this guy fails, of course he has to go out.

But realistically, I have a question for you two. As decision makers, you are both bosses, right? Do you prefer to work with people who have strong character, so it's a bit hard to say, but the results are good? Or do you prefer to be obedient, so it's a bit hard to say, but the result is good or is it the one who keeps on nodding keeps on smiling, but the result is not good

you're not asking, you're just guessing no, of course, it's like this is HRD, HRD question Omdet, which one do you choose?

of course I choose the tough one

because he will keep debating with you it's okay But he doesn't want to listen to you.

Give me a result. It's okay.

Oh, give me a result. You said that. Because this is my character. This is good. Give me a result. Okay.

Give me a result. This is my character. It's very simple. Simple for me. You know why? Because if I bring you to get me a result, and the result is coming, if I want to argue with you, tell me, shut up and shut up.

Okay. Omlet? If I ask myself first, what do I need?

Am I goal-oriented?

Or? Or comfortable? You want to be pleased, right?

Or comfortable? But if we talk about basketball,

whether it's a company, business, or whatever, if it's to be pleased? Or comfortable. But if we talk about it, it doesn't matter.

If you want a company, business, or whatever. If you're a friend, just be comfortable. If you're a friend, just be comfortable.

I'm really lazy if you're a busy friend.

Not necessarily if it's business-wise. But if it's ghost-oriented, I don't care.

You like me, you don't like me, we're busy, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.

Thank you for the opinion.

You must be the same.

And Indonesia should be goes oriented. Targeted.

I think that's the best way for now.

What's the point of you getting someone...

It's not a question.

Thank you, Jalal.

It's a question. It's a a question. Thank you, Mr. Alam. It's not a question. It's a question. It's a very easy one. If you want to achieve something, you have to only get the best. And when you already know that you have the best,

you let them do their job. Because you have the best. Now you see what I'm asking.

Just to the point.

What is to the point. What do you mean by to the point?

The ghost is comfortable.

But I don't think... But not everyone chooses option one, right? Sorry, not everyone chooses option two, right? But there are people who choose option one.

There are, there must be. There must be. With the hope that someone option. There is. There must be. Okay. There must be. With the hope that someone will know.

Yes.

Be grateful. But most of us are comfortable.

Yes.

The important thing is to be comfortable. The important thing is to be comfortable. Usually in Indonesia, it's comfortable. You can't be told, I'm your boss.

If I talk to you, you don't listen. I'll kick your ass. That's Indonesia. Because, boss, you come, you are the boss, you come to the coach, you say to the coach, I want you to do this, the coach say, who are you to tell me this? What do you know about football?

Fuck off.

Yeah. Harusnya begitu kan?

Oh, coach. And then, kalau your boss is the one who have also strong character. I'm the boss. I'm the one who hire you. You don't want to follow me? OK, let's see who is the boss.

But, bro, that's your question. How many paths do you have to go down?

The one who has, whoever it is, choose.

Coach, right? Comfortable or troublesome but ghost-oriented.

Yes.

Coach to the player, also like that. Go down again. The important thing is the player is comfortable. Or the player has a ghost oriented. If you have a ghost oriented, you will never be comfortable.

Yes.

Exactly.

Because you will never be sure about your position.

You can't be comfortable. You can't be comfortable.

You cannot. It's unacceptable.

Convert zone. It's unacceptable. Yeah, comfort zone, it's a sigh. How can I explain? I think

this, our national team now, right now, right now, they are in very very comfort zone. Before this Nkosh came, everybody

is not Nyaman. They are not Nyaman because they're constantly thinking what this guy gonna do, what this guy gonna do, who gonna play, who not gonna play. You know, many internal issues when he was there because they said, oh, you didn't mind or after the game they make correction, you know, all these things and then when you don't obey, he puts you out. He's the boss.

You have to obey.

So you mean we need to practice like that now?

Bro, that's the only way to move forward. If you want to go to World Cup, that's the only way. Because at the end of the day, you are not there to make people happy. You are there to just achieve your goal.

Yeah, that's it. It's over, actually.

What's the point? You see now, everybody happy, Ruang Ganti happy, but no result.

Yeah, because it's failed. My question was, what's next? In two years and four years, what's our team going to be like? Because actually, this matter is really good.

Good, like I said.

The players are good. Very good. We have 2 top keepers. Plus, the keepers, Hernando and Sinadio, are also good. In every position, we already have players who can cover each other. In the future, I think there should be someone like Ole. Ole...

We need better. Yes. But Ole can make a difference. It's a pity that he was injured yesterday. When he played second base, it was different. Against Arab. He changed the game.

That's right.

That's it. But in the future, in the Sint Sinta Yong, it's not enough. That's why. That's why he was found. That's why he kept scoring 3 or 4 goals.

So it means our players are actually capable.

But if he started in Patrick's era.

What?

If he started in Patrick's era.

Yes, I mean, that's what was expected. At that time, his era, that's what was expected. When he appeared here, he was the answer. So, it means that our players should be able to do it. In my opinion. And now, we have to appreciate that now, we are really against the Arabs, Iraq, against the teams that were,

except Japan, that counted us as a goal scorer. Now, it's not. Now, it's balanced. Now, it's balanced. Now, it's close to us.

The difference is just one goal.

No more underdogs. We are not underdogs. Because it's different, we need to have a strategy to strengthen this team. Who will win the match?

And how to back up with the players' supply that will going forward. And again, what we need most now, the most important thing we need in the team is team management. How you manage the players we have. Because we have a very strong team. So, if we don't manage it well, there will be problems. Internally.

So, you need somebody who can manage that. Actually, what we haven't talked about much is we haven't talked about the loss loss of Mace Hilgers. Whereas in the team, we used to say that the most expensive player in the transfer market is Mace Hilgers. It means, not only the big name or the one who has a big value, but also the one who iss. But as a team.

Maybe with him joining, it's even stronger. But that doesn't mean that it's a role model. Because it was also once a topic. Imagine. Now our players are rated the most expensive in Asia. What for?

It doesn't matter.

But, talking about Higas, there's a friend of yours who said he wasn't called because he wasn't straight with Jay Why me?

Your friend said that

My friend? Stop it, don't say my friend

All of my friends I don't know, I don't want to continue it.

You're like...

I don't know, but I think he didn't come this time because... Because he's in the team... There's a problem, personal problem, not because he doesn't want to. Yeah, that's why I said that... Now it's not about how much the player's market value is. But how big you want to be part of the team.

But let's find a conclusion. This has happened. But in your opinion, ST doesn't need to come back.

In my opinion?

ST doesn't need to come back.

If I become him?

Right. If I become him, I don't want to. Because I've come out as a hero, instead of going back in,

the risk is even higher.

Really?

The risk is even higher.

But we don't know the decision. Even if he trains for Liga 1, don't do it.

Yeah, okay.

Because Luis Mila, after he became a coach, he wants to train for one of the Liga 1 teams. So it's done. He has created his own history. But, in your opinion, STI doesn't fit, STI doesn't come back, Patrick out. Like I said, I said it earlier, it's a gambling. I want to talk from both sides. If you call STI, this guy, he loves Indonesia. He will definitely come back.

But at what cost? If suddenly PCC offers him again, it means now PCC has to follow whatever he wants. And he can't be disturbed. Secondly, he will start again from scratch.

From scratch. Okay.

So, if he gives such a choice, the PCC can't refuse. So, at the end of the day, the best choice is the new person. He has to move on from Cinta Young, for now.

Even if he wants to go back.

I'm asking you about Patrick.

Patrick, honestly, he deserves more time.

Okay.

Honestly, because again, like I said, he only played 8 games.

8 games.

Who? Patrick. Including his match? Including his FIFA match? FIFA match? FIFA matchday or? FIFA matchday? Australia, Bahrain, China, Taiwan, Lebanon Yesterday, there were 2 7 or 8?

8, I think 8 So, if there are 8 games and he won

If FIFA matchday, he won 2 games? Against Lebanon, there are many winners Lebanon, oh, they are... FIFA, they are... They are playing against Lebanon, right? Lebanon can... Oh, it's FIFA, they are playing against... We are playing against Taiwan. Taiwan.

They are playing against three. So, you ask me, they need time. Like, if I watch what they played in first half, I would say give him more chances.

So, two quick two shots?

Yes. If I see, no, if I see last game, first half, Baba Pritama, Lawan Aira.

Oh, Komaren, Baba Kotama, Bagus do.

I would say I want to see more of that. Okay. give him personally but if you ask me ideally if you uh suck cinta young and bring somebody who is better than cinta young and this guy didn't succeed you have to go out also okay but me ideally but if you ask me personally i want him to stay because first half I really enjoy what they're trying to do

It's like 10 minutes against Australia That's a good 10 minutes

Bro, this is first half

Yeah, but I mean 10 minutes against Australia We played really well

That was his debut though

So there's a framework that you want to see more But what I said earlier The problem is our last two matches were against using the strategy that we used in the past. Waiting, waiting, waiting, counter.

The point is, if Patrick is still here, and he's staying here, then he has to be able to prove it.

To complete the contract. Yes, to complete the contract can be completed with something. Hopefully. Because my dream is... I've been a fan of the Dutch, Om Ded. I hope that in 2026, because I was called the son of Sintayong, now I'm talking about it.

In 2026, I hope that the Dutch will win the World Cup, Indonesia will play in the World Cup.

Not yet. The Netherlands won the World Cup, Indonesia played in the World Cup. Not all of them.

In the end, the Netherlands didn't make it to my age, because they only won the European Championship.

Yes, that's right.

Indonesia failed again. I mean, our lives as footballers are determined by how many times we win the World Cup.

Yes.

Four more years, that means I'm old. Four more years, my child is married. Four more years, I's not like that anymore, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The age of a football player is calculated from the European and world cup. Because every 4 years.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

This year your son was born, in 2030 your son is going to the World Cup. And the current players can be 30 years old, so 32 years old.

It's over.

It's over how old do you think he is?

40

43

43

so i really hope that maybe that is if he continues so AFF will be his

time he will have enough time to show that okay I can really make a change. If not, he has to go.

Okay.

I think it's fair.

I agree. I agree. I think it's already a burden.

It's December, right? Like if you wanna... December what?

December... AFF. No, no, no. Seagames. Seagames. It's December, right? Like if you wanna... December what?

FF.

No, no, no. Sea Games. Oh, it's the same, right? There's Sea Games, U23, FF, and Senil.

So, if you wanna follow what the community wants, okay, you fail, you're out.

You know? How many coaches can we change?

But we can't listen to the community too, sometimes.

You can. You can. Don't say you cannot. You have to. But ada waktunya. Ini belum waktunya. So, for me, I already tell you the panic-bottling time. AFF, if we don't see any progress, then it means we have to move on.

Okay.

So now, you have time to prepare. Jadi, lu kasih kesempatan sampe Desember, nih? For me. then it means we have to move on. So now, he has time to prepare.

So you give him a chance until December?

For me.

Okay. Because there are people who come in the worst condition, but he can change and make miracles. So, wow. If he actually comes in a good progress, so people don't say,

this needs a process, this needs results. processed. This needs to be a result. The problem is, the result is no. But I'm sure Coach Patrick has calculated the risk before he came here. I told him, welcome to Indonesia. When you get the moment, you're fried, then you'll know.

Welcome to Indonesia Welcome to Indonesia hahaha

because many teenagers started to say we don't want to see all of America playing ball get comments like that

hate comments

it's bad but in the opposite bro the players also got a lot of comments. And the audience is so many. So, it's fair.

They never experienced that.

It's not fair to...

If they don't want to, they better turn it off. Like you said earlier. Don't read it. Like BP, for example. He said two or one day before the match, he didn't want to turn off the social media.

That's right. So, the concentration is like that. the day before or the day before the match, he didn't want to no, he always turns off the social media he turns off the social media

that's right, so his concentration is just like that he doesn't listen to people, doesn't listen to anything doesn't know anything, basically I'm just playing that's it, okay so we still give

what is it, still

basically if I have an impact on my speech, I'll complain to you

because the last time you have an impact on my speech, I'll complain to you. Because the last time you had an impact.

Please help me to become like this. Because our conversation at that time had an impact. In my circle.

But what we definitely see in the future, it's a lesson, right? It's a lesson, right? But the decision can be right or wrong. If it's right or wrong, then don't make the mistake again. It's your job. It's your job. Don't sing.

Because if you sing, people will wait for you. People will wait for you.

I don't forget

our people. Even though we're both considered to be singers, Greg. Your style is humble. No, I'm a humble person. That's for sure. But, humble guy... no, I'm a humble person, that's for sure

But, humble guy with style, why not?

But try asking people, the three of us, they assume we're singing I don't care

That's already singing

Again, like I said, we always... When we are going there, we forget ourselves Where we came and then we became sombong. You know, I remember like all these comments when we say like, ah, oh, Thailand, Malaysia, ah,

kalian sibuk aja main EFF, kita bukan level lagi EFF.

Itu aja udah salah.

You don't do this, you know. Itu aja udah salah. Yeah, so in any situation, we have to understand that, we are given this chance and then we have to just take it and appreciate it. No need to send it here, send it there.

Greg, I'm sorry. We have to go to the plane.

But our players are already good, so the message is PSSC, let's do it. We can do it.

Even though in four years, the age of the'm already a kid. You're getting older. You're not getting older. You're getting older. You're getting older. You're getting older.

Congratulations.

Congratulations, bro.

Thank you, bro.

You'll be four years older. You'll get one more year.

You'll get one more year. You'll get one more year.

You'll see.