Cathy, what Nigel Farage said today was that white lives matter as much as black lives.Do you disagree with that statement?You seem to be conducting an interview with me, but I'm trying to ask you the questions, if I may, because you're the politician.Firstly, I'm correcting.With respect, Cathy, I'm correcting you on this, because to leave out the second half of the sentence I think is deliberately misrepresentative and misleading.So Nigel said that white lives matter as much as black lives.
And my question to you is, do you disagree with that statement?
And my question to you is about Nigel Farage's claims of anti -white prejudice.I mean, there is overwhelming evidence, isn't there, of police racism over the decades against black minority ethnic people.You've got to go back to the Scarman report, the McPherson report, the Casey review.There are decades of racism by the police against black minority ethnic people.Do you accept that that is a fact?
kind of stunned that you couldn't bring yourself to say that you agree with the statement that white lives matter as much as black lives.I can't understand why you can't just confirm you agree with that statement.
Zia, you're the senior member of a party.You're a politician.My job is to hold you to account, so I'm asking you these questions.I appreciate that.And I would love you to answer that question about racism against black and minority ethnic people by the police.There are a lot of people who are angry because they see every day, you know, the stop and search data.
They see that.They see the deaths of black people in police custody.And they're saying, where is your anger about that?
Again, I don't understand why you can't bring yourself to confirm that you agree with the statement that white lives matter as much as black lives.Clearly, it is unacceptable for anyone to be discriminated against based on immutable characteristics by the police or anybody else.But, you know, Cathy, you've been conducting this interview on a premise that it is wholly inappropriatewatch that body cam footage and be furious.It is wholly inappropriate to conclude from watching that body cam footage that there should be some political ramifications for this.When in 2021, Cathy, you wrote op -ed after op -ed, article after article in newspapers like The Independent about the George Floyd, in fact, and let me quote you your own words, you said that you expressed delight that the BLM hashtag transported, and this is a direct quote from you Kathy, transported the rage of George Floyd's death across the four corners of the globe.
Zia, I've said to you, Zia, I've said to you, I understand people are angry.A totally different reaction, a totally different reaction, Cathy, not just from you.I'm only putting that to you because I'm speaking to you now, but I'm afraid this has been endemic across most of the media landscape in this country and the institutions in this country.
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