ଲୋମଟାଙ୍କୁରା କଥାବାର୍ତ୍ତା: ଦୁନିଆ ପାଇଁ ଭିଲେନ୍,ସ୍ତ୍ରୀ ପାଇଁ ହିରୋ! | EP-132 | Podcast With Subhasree Panda

What kind of a woman do you think you are?

I am mentally disturbed. I used to think that being a woman is a big deal.

You have been a victim of many mistakes.

I have made many mistakes. I have made many mistakes.

Don't you think that you have a relationship with a woman?

I have never been a woman.

Have you ever had any problems? There is no female semitic KBB in the world. There is no mistake in the world. There are problems.

There is a chapter in Maoist, if you read it, you will understand.

You are not doing your duty.

I am not doing anything. I am a Swami.

There is no physical assault, torture, killing, etc.

They are killing people.

They are killing people in the name of Jajnavada Bhava. I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I will kill you both, I I Why did you marry a heroine? I was born in a state where women were treated as equal to men. If you were born in a state where women were treated as equal to men, you would have been a Swamiji.

I don't need to be born in a state where women are treated as equal to men.

Do you support Swamiji or the wrongdoers?

I support the wrongdoers.

How many lamps were lit for Swamiji's death? All the time. If a tanker is shot to death, where will the people of the 3D world, the Swamis, the Mahatmas, the Poovas, who have been praying to God for justice, hear from God?

God will definitely hear from the mother who shot the tanker. Scansteels Limited presents Argus Podcast. Presenting sponsor

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I am not sad about it. She is my husband. Before that, wherever I was, Mouneeta was there, wherever I was, she was there.

So you are a Swami's idol.

Yes.

If you introduce her to the family, will she be the most respected woman? So you are a Swami's follower? Yes So you are a woman who is proud of your identity?

Of course, I am a Swami. I am a Swami.

What makes you proud?

I am a good person, in my brother's life. I have never seen any violence or violence against him.

But there is violence, bloodshed, and 50 murders, and the police is against him.

People say that the process of getting rid of me is over. There is no doubt about that. I will have to accept that. Okay. I have been harassed by my husband

till date. The whole state is against him.

I am a woman. It is said that women's religion should be followed by the Swamis. But if the Swamis make mistakes, will the women support them?

No way. I was exactly saying the same thing. If I make a mistake, and if the mistake is proven, I will not support them.

In 2008, you were accused of looting the Noyagad weapons factory. In 2012, you were accused of kidnapping two Italian citizens were kidnapped and abducted. The abductions of Lakhnanda Saraswati in the murder case happened in 2008. The abductions were long.

I would say that all the abductions are 144 cases. If you write one, you can write two, three, four, five. Without that, you can't write anything without them. This is a mistake if you don't have the complete experience.

In 144 cases, you can't have the complete experience. But in 144 cases, you can have the complete experience. In 14 cases, you can have the complete experience. But you can't say that there are no good people or people who have made a mistake. How can you say that?

How many mistakes can we mistakes in public life and in private life I am sure that I will make mistakes in the party where I work

How did you get in touch with Sabeshichi Pandankar?

That was in 1998 I had completed my graduation at that time I was a PG and also doing part time job. Which job were you doing? I was working as a receptionist in a company called Kelvinator.

Where did you belong to?

I belong to Nimabada, my father's place. my father-in-law's is in Ranapura. Both are political families. Sabha Sachin's father was an MLA in Ranapura.

He was a freedom fighter.

He gave 4-5 proposals. I was a mediator. I had proposed that I should get my father's wealth and property back. At that time, I didn't know that my father was my father. I didn't know that I had seen my father, but I didn't recognize him. But one day, I came home from work,

I was walking with my uncle, and my father came. I saw him and I said Namaskar. My uncle recognized me, he was Rameshwami's father. I said, Namaskar.

He was wearing a Jhula Muni style, a very stylish style, with a sponge and slippers. I said, I have never seen such a beautiful girl I have never seen such a beautiful girl I knew that she was also

proposing to me

I read it My uncle told me that she was proposing to Ramesh I was like, oh, I am so lucky that she is proposing to me I wanted a good

peaceful and free I read the same. But I wanted a good, peaceful, free of discrimination, womenizing, a society where women are not discriminated against. I wanted a good society like that.

You said that there was no discrimination against women in the 1972 constitution. But I see that when the mother is placed on the cradle, the fetus is held in the womb. The garb of the unmarried, and are forced to wear the clothes of the unmarried. Don't you feel that the women are being forced to wear the garb of the unmarried?

There are no women in the KBB. There are 5-10 leaders in a camp. They are even in the wife's place. When the government forces them to wear the garb, life strong I have seen that you have been a very active person in your life, especially after you have given birth to your child. I have seen that he has a lot of hatred. And after giving birth, the hatred increased.

What kind of hatred?

Hatred of seeing injustice in the society. Hatred of seeing injustice in the house. He couldn't tolerate it. He didn't study with my father or brother. I didn't study at that time. I studied in Bahagara, in the alley. But in Bahagara, there was a dispute between my brother and my father.

I mean, there is a dispute between the teachers and their brothers.

Which brothers? The ones who don't have any property?

All the older brothers have taken away the property of the landlord. I am detested. I don't want to stay with them. If they were only interested in their wealth, they would have decided to go into politics where I was. That was not possible. They were so self-conscious. The war started within the family. Yes.

It was slowly spreading. It was spreading like a virus.

It was spreading like a virus.

It was spreading like a virus.

It was spreading like a virus. politics So, you have seen the father's love and affection for his daughter. Will you be able to bond with your daughter?

Yes, I will. I will be able to bond with her. I will be able to bond with her even now. Even now, when I interview her, I don't talk about my family. I don't talk about my family. I can't expose my love for him. I couldn't do that. But you didn't take away your father's responsibility?

I didn't take away anything. Everyone told me that I was taking care of him. I was taking care of him.

I didn't take away anything. How did you start to pick up weapons from the jungle?

In 2003, my father's father-in-law expired. the I am a Sikh, I have a political background. It takes a lot of time to understand. I gradually understand that if you talk to someone about religion, they will know who you are. Husband-wife relationship, when Swami says something,

you understand who will be responsible for it and who will be responsible for it. I think that is the truth. I don't know if I will keep it or someone will dig it out. I don't know if it is true or not. My marriage life was like a sanyas nova. It is very difficult to be a sanyas nova in marriage life. You are in a young age, you have a child, you struggle at that time, whether you are a husband or not.

It is very difficult. I would go and listen heard people's stories. I am staying in the same house. If I have any friends, I have doubted them. I have heard that he is a Swami.

This is the cruel truth of the society.

So, you have to be a slave. When you are not a Swami, you are in the jungle,

your mother is your husband, your wife, your children, your mother, your husband, your wife, your children, your children, your wife, your children, your wife, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, your children, Unlimited. Because the support of the family where you are a Swamiji you need to get it from the family So, there is no financial support? No, there is no financial support. I can't do anything without Swadhinath. I have been to many Rakyanashala houses

I don't regret all this. My father also said that I should stay with my father and work. You do whatever you want. But I am not satisfied with that.

Because there is no respect for the elders in the father's house. If someone says anything about the way, it is very difficult.

Then you have to go to different places, to different places in different places. Motherless woman, wife of a rich man, they don't even give her a house.

If this is the case, we will also have a problem. the I was very scared. I was very scared. I was scared that the police would come and raid my house. I was scared that they would come and raid my house. I was scared that the police would come and raid my house.

I was scared that the police would come and raid my house. I was scared that the police would come and raid my house. I was scared that the police would come and raid my house. school, college, institutes, etc. and you have faced many problems. I have faced many problems.

I was in jail in 2010 and I was arrested. I was in jail for 2.5 years. I left my father and my brother-in-law and I was alone in school.

I was not allowed to go to school, college, etc. I was not allowed to go to school, college, etc. I was not allowed to goihar, I did my PG I was told to do my HOD I was told to sit for one exam I did my last exam

I went to the Central Union College I did my top exam I had a chapter in my Ma OIST I had a chapter in my Ma OIST in my plus 3 year The whole college

had 100-150 students I had a Ma OIST chapter I studied school. I had to study the Maoist chapter. I was in the court for the entire Bulli Kannevesh.

Did you have any problems at home?

No, I didn't have any problems. But I was very sad. I couldn't see his face. I had to send them to school. I was in the class class as my mother.

You said you were in jail. Were you a Maoist?

No, I was a Maoist leader. I was a woman who was honest. My husband was a very bad man. If we didn't arrest the husband, we would have arrested the wife. My husband was a very bad man.

He was a very bad man. How long were you in jail? I have arrested three people. Swami has died. Swami is a living being.

What happened to you? You were arrested for two and a half years.

I was kept in the house for all the cases.

Okay.

I will tell you a small story. I was using a packet of I was a small girl, I was behaving like a girl. I was reading all the letters, all the letters, and I was reading the letters, and I was reading the letters, and I was reading the letters, and I was reading the letters, and I was reading the letters, and I was reading the letters,

and I was reading the letters, and I was reading scared, I thought, what kind of a person is she? She was like a woman, when she was arrested, when she was interrogated by the police.

I was not given any sleep. I was threatened that if I don't speak the truth, I will eat this big piece of bread and eat it. I was kept awake all night. I don't know if it was will allow me to go inside. But I will sit there till dawn. I will not say anything.

I thought for a while that being a woman is not a big deal.

Did you get physically assaulted?

No, I was sitting outside and there was a door and there was some gossiping going on. Two officers were talking. Wherever I went, they were asking questions about Bagga. I was arrested inside. Bagga Bhai is in the jungle. What Bagga?

Everyone is telling the truth. Everyone is telling the truth. Bagga is in the jungle. This is what the police are saying.

I was laughing when I heard all this. And in that, two people were killed. Two people were buried in the cupboard.

Which month was this?

2010. Inside the SOG camp. SOG.

Inside the SOG camp.

SOG Jawan. SOG Jawan. Guns were fired and buried inside. I was in the cupboard and I was very confused. I was very confused. I was in the cupboard and I was very confused. I was in the cupboard and I was very confused.

I was in the cupboard and I was very confused. I was in the cupboard and I was kill him. You are sitting in the camp like this? Yes. I can kill him. I can kill him. If I don't have a death warrant, I can't kill him.

If there is a police warrant for my husband's life, will you all be able to do this?

Of course. I will do whatever I can. If there is a police warrant for my husband's life, I can. If the police force is alive, nothing can stop me.

Have you tried to write a letter to him, meet him, bring him to the Chief Justice and talk to him?

I have tried a lot. I remember when Prakash Mishra was the DG, Professor Radhamohan Chaligalini was with him. I have tried a lot. I was a freedom fighter. I was a member of the government.

Who approached you? The government will do justice to me.

What was your answer?

I had a condition. I had a condition. If the government would agree to it, I would do it. If the government agrees to that condition, then I will...

What was the condition?

The condition was that all the tribal people who were arrested for the Maoist case should be released from the government. If the government starts the process of releasing them, then I will start my process.

Is it a mistake to raise arms against against a mother or a mother-in-law?

It is a mistake. It is a complete mistake. I have never supported anyone. I will never support anyone.

Are you happy when Swami is in the forest or in jail?

I am happy when Swami is in jail. I can see Him. I can talk to Him on the phone. I can talk to Him on video calling. I can go to any phone day to day. I can talk on video calling. I can go to court. I can see and talk.

I can't say anything else.

What do you say? Do you say anything else?

I don't know what to say about the speech. I don't know what to say about the speech. If I had studied in a class, I would have forgotten. I would have forgotten every time. If I had studied in a class, I would have forgotten what I had to say. I would have laughed.

Same question, I have been asking this for years.

It was a great fun. When I went to the police during the interrogation, they said, if you say one thing, I don't know what to say. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.

If Pandavas were not Maoist leaders, would they have been good leaders? Would they have been able to serve their country? Would they have been able to serve their country?

If their father was a leader, if he was a leader, he would have been able to serve his country. He would have been a communist leader. He would have been a Communist leader and he was also a Dalit.

He was such a good leader that whatever qualities he had, he had the same qualities as all the other Sachi Pandan leaders.

You also fought in the elections in 2014.

In 2014, the Samyabang andyabang fought in Ranapur. In 2019, they won the Congress ticket.

Okay, so you were not successful. But you were not a flower, you were a noble woman. I remember you were on television every day, you were sitting outside for two hours. What was the incident?

It was in 2014. I remember that on Women's Day, the Chief Minister opened the door of all the women's organizations and all the women could meet. I have seen it. I have seen it. I have seen it. I have seen it. I have seen it. I have seen it. I have seen it. I have seen it.

I have seen it. I was so focused that I could not see the media. I was focused for two hours. But I did not get any information.

Did people accept you when you were campaigning in 2014-2019?

No, people supported me in a huge number. But the support did not change much. People had a huge support, but it was not enough.

How did the people of Nyayagad accept the Supreme Court?

It was very good. When the first court of Nyayagad was established, people were able to see it. It was amazing.

Was it good or do people have curiosity? What is Sabeshechipunda? How is it?

Of course, there is curiosity I hear people say, how can I see it? Of course, there is curiosity But people, I mean, honestly I can't see it I mean, what kind of hero is it?

The one who was looted by a truck The one who died of a disease The truck full of weapons was looted, 10 people were killed, there was a fierce fight all night, how did the hero become the most important?

When people were talking, the police were not stopping them, they were inside the house, that case, I was there, I was also a lawyer, when people were talking,

9-11 attacks were done,

you fought the case of Swami as a lawyer, you freed him from some cases, the I was arrested in Saherurdh. Saherurdh case is over. You were convicted in one case.

In which case?

Life.

In which case?

In the first case in Varanpur.

If you were born as a woman, you would have been able to be a good wife. You would have been able to

be a good wife. I don't need to be a good wife. I am not a woman. I am a woman. I don't need to come. I am a woman. But if I am a woman, I will be a woman.

In the film, the criminal who is chasing the police, he comes to a dirty house, sees a woman, sees a man, and then at midnight... Has this happened before?

2009? to I have been coming here for years. I have come here for some work. I have been coming here for some work.

But you are not upset that Mahabaliputra is not helping you?

I am upset that he is not helping me. I have not helped him in any way. I have not helped him in any way. I have not helped him in any way. I have not helped of doing anything bad or using weapons. I have never touched a person who is a religious person.

I have been touching people for the past three years. I have never touched anyone.

So, Vasuska Paola and Claudia Colangelo, such a famous name has been given to you.

When you were arrested, did you appeal to be released? the I have no feelings for Odisha or our state. I have no feelings for the country. If I had a country, I would have done the same.

But you were appealing for the same.

That's how it happened.

Many people appealed, but I didn't.

There was a kidnap of the MLA's son, a kidnap of the collector Vinil Krishna. Was there a social justice movement behind all this?

That means, there was no social justice movement on the Malkangiri side. the I will not accept that. Because, the leader of the family, the head of the family, whatever he does,

he will definitely win.

Can you see that without any honour? No, I have seen a lot of things on METV. I have seen many things.

Now,

there is a lot of confusion.

I have seen a lot of violence in Kandahar Mall. Did you have any involvement in the case of Sabesh H. Pandey?

Yes, I was involved in the case of Lakhnanda Saraswati. But I was not involved in the case of Na Sabesachi Pandayam, the Naidu commission, they are not involved in that.

But you will say that the Sabesachi Pandayam is not a religious organization, it is not a religious organization, it is a very wrong work.

It is a very wrong work, whether it is done by the people or not, it is a very wrong work. There are many cases, so many fights, so many dates, so much money, so many lawyers, case I have seen him a few times How did you see him with Jio? It's been 2 years

Did you ever want to see Jio's father?

We used to talk on the phone I have made a video link for it

So, the father likes the mother more than the mother? The father didn't get the support love his mother more than the son? The father is not as good as the son. But how does the father understand the son?

I don't know how, but the father is the one who is responsible for the family. Everyone sees that I am the mother and the son is the father.

Who feeds the children? The children come and feed them.

They feed them with fish and vegetables. I have eaten a lot of fish. I have eaten a lot of fish. I have eaten a lot of fish.

I have eaten a lot of fish.

I have eaten a lot of fish. I have eaten a lot of fish.

I have eaten a lot of fish. I heard that Sabhae Haji Pandya was a good student. Who was studying with him?

He was a science student and he was doing his B.Sc. in Mathematics. I was arrested in Maoist Link.

I was arrested in Maoist Link. If you lose your life for your friend, the woman who has lost her husband, her mother, her father, and has been praying to God for justice, where will God hear her? Will He hear the story of the woman who lost her husband? Or will He hear the story of the family that was destroyed by her?

God will definitely hear the story of the woman who lost her husband, Sangram. If I am right in my place, that means I am right in His place.

How did you like our podcast? I liked it very much.

This platform is very good. I can say something that opens your mind. Sometimes opening your mind is a light and a different kind of joy. It is a peaceful feeling.

Now you feel light.

Thank you very much. I hope I hope you have a very difficult life. I wish you all the best Scan Steals Limited presents, Orgas Podcast. Presenting sponsor, Shristi DMT Chhara. A product of Scan Steals Limited.